I go to a Christian university that believes in complimentarianism and they are fairly strong about how they feel about this. It is true that some are on different points of the spectrum like you said, with some being reasonable and others being very strict about it. The churches I have gone to have normally been more egalitarian, so it was a new experience for me to go to a place where I was in the minority. Granted most of them do emphasize that they believe that women are equal in dignity to men, I have to admit that I am not convinced by some of their arguments. I dated a girl who was complimentarian and she was not too thrilled when I applied for a job at a church where a woman was a pastor. She also later expressed to me that she wanted to see me more as a "head of the household" type person and with that and other things our relationship came to an end. I am currently researching the topic more to find out about what people believe and how I can better understand what I believe and if it is biblical to believe such. I admit that I feel a little uneasy about debating it because sometimes I worry that I will be judged as not holding a view of Scripture as being authoritative, but that is why I am researching, to be able to better explain my arguments to others in a loving way and to promote dialogue, not unnecessary division.
Cody, thanks for your honest response. I, too, have grown up egalitarian in both the home and church. I'm researching this more because I recently moved because I got married (to an amazing man!) and attend a church that's staunchly complementarian and quotes Piper more than Paul, and never quotes Jesus when defending these views. There are three sites that have been extremely helpful in how I have been able to use the Bible to defend egal: The Junia Project, Christians for Biblical Equality, and Marg Mowczko. As for scholars: N.T. Wright, Also, the same can be said of complemtarians in not taking Scripture seriously...when I pointed to the story of Deborah in Judges 4-5, the pastor told me that Deborah had NO authority and that since she was married, she had the covering of a man. I was shocked. Deborah with no authority? She is the only judge who was also a prophet, and ruled for 40 years, and it was honoring to God!! She also told Barak, a man what to do, and he obeyed. Same deal with Priscilla...he minimized what she did, and Nymphia (Colassians 4:15) the house church pastor. He laughed when I said that the only time a married couple is described as making a decision was in mutual submission and prayer in 1 Cor 7. Stay strong!! There is so much scripture defending and uplifting women as equals in every way. Look at Jesus, the feminist.
@@jambrown7 Maybe can't judge just based on the info you have given.... but sounds like you are in a bad church? John Piper himself probably wouldn't want you to attend a church that quotes him more than scripture. JP's ministry is all about 'looking at the book'.
If you are still looking for reading on the topic, on the egalitarian side of things I can recommend the website Christians for biblical equality, and on youtube: egalitarians for jesus christ.
I don't know if i can post links, but if this works, here are sime of the articles that persuaded me towards the egalitarian side of things - www.patheos.com/blogs/phoenixandolivebranch/2012/06/complementarianism-is-patriarchy-in-drag/ And - wineskins.org/2015/01/09/he-will-rule-over-you-an-egalitarian-perspective/
Hi Hayley, I am serving as an elder in a Vineyard Church in Melbourne, Australia. At the beginning of this year, we invited a woman to assume the position of Lead Pastor, and she is doing a fabulous job! As an eldership, we didn't take time weighing the 'pros and cons' of the 'complementarian vs egalitarian' debate but simply moved forward in the way we sensed God was leading us. But I appreciate the clear and simple approach you've taken in this video to state the positions on this issue. FYI - we definitely haven't lost any people because of this appointment. And I pray that as we go on, there will be some who will be drawn to join us because we have been somewhat 'egalitarian'.
Seems unwise to not look at what the bible says before appointing a pastor or elder. I would have thought would be your starting point rather then 'I had a good feeling'.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 I thought the requirement to be an Elder was to run his household well. 1st Timothy 2:12 as well. Women are allowed to teach other women, but not have authority over men when it pertains to church Gov't.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 If a wife hears a bump in the night, she expects her husband to check. Most women also expect you to earn more then they do. In other words, both sexes have some innate qualities. It's not double standard. It's the way we complement each other. Could u imagine the old world before men created streets, cars, planes, automobiles etc.... A wife gets pregnant. Could she go out & hunt food while carrying?? Most likely no. She would be very vulnerable. Her husband went out & provided. Men have created an infrastructure today where we arent really needed, but that doesnt deny biblical truth. We still compliment each other.
Thank you for making an unbiased and informational video for this topic. And thank you for advocating for for unity in the church, no matter which secondary doctrine each person holds to
this is very informative. My husband and I would side with complentarianism. However, I never knew how egals differ but apparently that's because I'm closer in on the spectrum. Aside from women in the pulpit, i pretty much agree with them.
I'm Catholic. I actually converted to Catholic Christianity from a branch of Protestant Christianity that ordained women. I knew that when I "crossed the Tiber" (common phrase for converts) I would no longer have the ability to be ordained. Our church is complementarian. Giving up the chance of being ordained allowed me to appreciate the men of my faith life in a deeper way in their roles as spiritual fathers and protectors of those they are responsible for.
@@ea-tr1jh Hello! Thank you for the reply. I am aware that some Anabaptists allowed women to preach in the 16th century as did some groups of the Holiness and Restoration Movements in the 19th century. However, I have not read about any serious attempt to ordain women from the Protestant, Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditions until the 20th century. Do you know of any?
My church takes Complementarian view but I don't have any strong opinion on this(it doesn't keep me awake at night lol) btw I am a Korean and loving your Korean apartment tour lol
As a male I am confused about how females buy into what is called complimentarianism. I also can't figure out why so called complimentarians have to label everyone.
So, men buying in to egalitarianism would be equally confusing by your logic, right? you have used the label complementarianism twice and you are wondering why someone else is using labels?
Being confused is not a sin, but being deceived is. We are commanded to be thoroughly convinced about what we believe, and of course that which is not of faith is sin.
Looking at the source for those numbers they didn't ask men the same questions. Seems a bit if an oversight to not actually get anything to compare it to. 73% feel they could or should be doing more to serve God. If you ask men it could be the same or even higher. We just don't know.
Complementarianism That false and confusing teaching, that states Christian women are less than Christian men in a spiritual way, but they really aren't, but they really are. The complementarian teaching prohibits a Christian woman from holding certain positions in a church. They can't be elders neither can they teach men. So why is that? The false teaching makes it clear that the priesthood of the New Covenant is tiered. There is a hierarchy. Those that are higher, the men, can be in leadership positions, like elder. They can teach other men. Those in the lower tier can not be in leadership positions, like elder. They are prohibited from teaching men, because the men are in the higher tier. It wouldn't make any sense. A new believer is automatically assigned their level, higher or lower, at the moment of salvation, as a birthright. Their gender determines their tier. A Christian can not move to a higher or lower tier. A Christian that is in the lower tier (woman) is not allowed to complain of the tier she was placed in. That would be sin, because God made her a woman by His choice. She should accept and also embrace her position in the lower tier. A church, is either a group of Christian men or a group of Christian men and women. A church can never be a group of Christian women, because it would be a group of only those in the lower tier. It would have no elders. But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. -excerpt 1 Peter 2 Since the teaching states that women are spiritually inferior to men, but they aren't, but they are, when did that start? But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a wrongdoer. -excerpt 1 Timothy 2 It started with the first woman. She was deceived, and sinned because of it. So we have a teaching that accepts that men and women are fallen beings. Both genders are sinful by nature. However women are different. They are lacking the ability that men have to judge if some situation, some concept or teaching is sinful. This inability was passed down from Eve to all women. It remains to this day. A woman in our time was 'lacking' from birth, even from the womb. So what can be done? Nothing according to Complementarianism. That is because an anointing of that powerful masculine being called the Holy Spirit, is just not sufficient. Even the Holy Spirit can not elevate even one Christian woman to the spiritually superior level of a Christian man.
Egalitarianism is a damnable heresy, since 1 Timothy 2:12-14, 1 Timothy 3:1-5, and 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 make it very clear that women cannot be pastors, ministers, nor hold any other leadership position in the Church. Another thing that makes egalitarianism a damnable heresy is that egalitarianism denies the Biblical roles of men and women.
It takes a strong woman to be like the woman in speaking up like this. In the face of destroying roles & flipping sex like mr potatohead. neutralization through equality is not always a good thing. Women have tools & ways of raising children that Guys are not given from the nurturing standpoint... 50% of learning how relationships are built between a man and a woman are lost when its not traditional also. A man wont be taught how to be respectful & care for a woman if it is a homosexual ousting of the female in a relationship & a woman wont be taught value & partnership & complementary helpmet roles as a woman in a hate men lesbian relationship. This only comes from relationships of 1 each. As a social experiment, these last years, of trying to manipulate this will grow up the building rage & hate against others & pridefully enforcing natural relationships for unnatural ones & encouraging more pride. Don't forget pride, keeps you out in the flood in an ark rainbow that reminds us all of the flood, & that next time it will be fire. The original rainbow meant God is love & he will see you through the flood safely if you get rid of your pride & help build the ark & get in. Your lesson is pretty deep. Don't forget even satan uses the bible for temptations too. We need Strong women that will stand up to ego-tarian equalist... This is just using part of the nice parts of the bible... Its wrong & aka neutralization kills life. Pride separates & destroys. You can have both. You should have both & it is a balance too. Great video.
Amen. May Jesus Christ bless you for speaking the truth. Satan uses the Bible is coercive ways to sleep reality from God's word. I love you all, brothers and sisters Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior 🙏
:-/ All I can say is , I keep away from what I call status quo riff-raff, let alone videos that even mention egalitarianism, because the long traumatic process of finding the Truth about masculinity and femininity that I went through was so costly, - and there are so few Christians who are secure in the truth about masculinity and femininity, that facing them with their huge amount of work and resistance to doing that work, is sickening, - particularly when considered in relation to the fact that the church is the pillar and ground of the Truth, and judgement begins in the house of God, - our failure to be light and salt in the world implicates the church in every abortion, suicide divorce etc. I'm reasonably sure that angels find most church gatherings repugnant. So many ignorant un-affirmed, robbed and confused, defiled and defiling little boys and girls in adult bodies, muddling their way through in the flesh, muddying the waters, and adding insult to injury to those who really need Jesus. I'm not going to write a book here, but what I will say, is that I am so thoroughly convinced that Paul's teachings mean what they say, and that he said what God wanted him to say, - that I would rather be put to death than deny divine order. How many ding-a-lings with roots of bitterness, un-resolved issues, and wishy-washy ideas of Utopian democracy, and spurious equality based on sexless efficiency - who are basically liars and lovers of self, trying to save themselves, are prepared to be put to death rather than deny their fanciful egalitarian mockery of the perfect work of Christ that restored the image and glory of God.
Amen. That was moving. I am willing to die for my beliefs in God's word. I believe exactly how it was written is exactly what it means. Anything more or anything less is a sin.
Every scripture is inspired by God. do not lean in your own understanding. What is written will never be erase because the word of god will live forever and ever. what i understand this is a test of obedience to female. because from the beginning the women has a disobedience attitude. This is a test to the female about obedience.
That's a load of bs, there's a difference between being inspired by and being written by. You can't be a biblicap literalist due to the contradictions between God's teachings and the words of prophets
I hate to tell you this bro, but regardless of which view is right, women aren't the only ones who transgress. Men have disobeyed God throughout the ages.
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I go to a Christian university that believes in complimentarianism and they are fairly strong about how they feel about this. It is true that some are on different points of the spectrum like you said, with some being reasonable and others being very strict about it. The churches I have gone to have normally been more egalitarian, so it was a new experience for me to go to a place where I was in the minority. Granted most of them do emphasize that they believe that women are equal in dignity to men, I have to admit that I am not convinced by some of their arguments. I dated a girl who was complimentarian and she was not too thrilled when I applied for a job at a church where a woman was a pastor. She also later expressed to me that she wanted to see me more as a "head of the household" type person and with that and other things our relationship came to an end. I am currently researching the topic more to find out about what people believe and how I can better understand what I believe and if it is biblical to believe such. I admit that I feel a little uneasy about debating it because sometimes I worry that I will be judged as not holding a view of Scripture as being authoritative, but that is why I am researching, to be able to better explain my arguments to others in a loving way and to promote dialogue, not unnecessary division.
Cody, thanks for your honest response. I, too, have grown up egalitarian in both the home and church. I'm researching this more because I recently moved because I got married (to an amazing man!) and attend a church that's staunchly complementarian and quotes Piper more than Paul, and never quotes Jesus when defending these views. There are three sites that have been extremely helpful in how I have been able to use the Bible to defend egal: The Junia Project, Christians for Biblical Equality, and Marg Mowczko. As for scholars: N.T. Wright, Also, the same can be said of complemtarians in not taking Scripture seriously...when I pointed to the story of Deborah in Judges 4-5, the pastor told me that Deborah had NO authority and that since she was married, she had the covering of a man. I was shocked. Deborah with no authority? She is the only judge who was also a prophet, and ruled for 40 years, and it was honoring to God!! She also told Barak, a man what to do, and he obeyed. Same deal with Priscilla...he minimized what she did, and Nymphia (Colassians 4:15) the house church pastor. He laughed when I said that the only time a married couple is described as making a decision was in mutual submission and prayer in 1 Cor 7. Stay strong!! There is so much scripture defending and uplifting women as equals in every way. Look at Jesus, the feminist.
@@jambrown7 Maybe can't judge just based on the info you have given.... but sounds like you are in a bad church? John Piper himself probably wouldn't want you to attend a church that quotes him more than scripture. JP's ministry is all about 'looking at the book'.
Cody, on the complementarian side, John Piper's Recovering Biblical Manhood is good.
If you are still looking for reading on the topic, on the egalitarian side of things I can recommend the website Christians for biblical equality, and on youtube: egalitarians for jesus christ.
I don't know if i can post links, but if this works, here are sime of the articles that persuaded me towards the egalitarian side of things - www.patheos.com/blogs/phoenixandolivebranch/2012/06/complementarianism-is-patriarchy-in-drag/
And - wineskins.org/2015/01/09/he-will-rule-over-you-an-egalitarian-perspective/
Hi Hayley, I am serving as an elder in a Vineyard Church in Melbourne, Australia. At the beginning of this year, we invited a woman to assume the position of Lead Pastor, and she is doing a fabulous job! As an eldership, we didn't take time weighing the 'pros and cons' of the 'complementarian vs egalitarian' debate but simply moved forward in the way we sensed God was leading us. But I appreciate the clear and simple approach you've taken in this video to state the positions on this issue. FYI - we definitely haven't lost any people because of this appointment. And I pray that as we go on, there will be some who will be drawn to join us because we have been somewhat 'egalitarian'.
Seems unwise to not look at what the bible says before appointing a pastor or elder. I would have thought would be your starting point rather then 'I had a good feeling'.
@@benry007 There's nothing unbiblical about women in leadership.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 I thought the requirement to be an Elder was to run his household well. 1st Timothy 2:12 as well. Women are allowed to teach other women, but not have authority over men when it pertains to church Gov't.
@@GMONEY-xl5gu That's a double standard.
@@j-mshistorycorner6932 If a wife hears a bump in the night, she expects her husband to check. Most women also expect you to earn more then they do. In other words, both sexes have some innate qualities. It's not double standard. It's the way we complement each other. Could u imagine the old world before men created streets, cars, planes, automobiles etc.... A wife gets pregnant. Could she go out & hunt food while carrying?? Most likely no. She would be very vulnerable. Her husband went out & provided. Men have created an infrastructure today where we arent really needed, but that doesnt deny biblical truth. We still compliment each other.
Thank you for making an unbiased and informational video for this topic. And thank you for advocating for for unity in the church, no matter which secondary doctrine each person holds to
Thank you, Haley! As a woman, I’m trusting God’s words through Paul. :)
this is very informative. My husband and I would side with complentarianism. However, I never knew how egals differ but apparently that's because I'm closer in on the spectrum. Aside from women in the pulpit, i pretty much agree with them.
love to hear more Haley! have been encouraged by your videos and looking forward to more! x
+Sarah Kim Thank you for watching, Sarah! I hope you'll enjoy the next few that are coming :-)
I'm Catholic. I actually converted to Catholic Christianity from a branch of Protestant Christianity that ordained women. I knew that when I "crossed the Tiber" (common phrase for converts) I would no longer have the ability to be ordained. Our church is complementarian. Giving up the chance of being ordained allowed me to appreciate the men of my faith life in a deeper way in their roles as spiritual fathers and protectors of those they are responsible for.
What are you thoughts on praying to saints and to Mary? Personally it appears the catholic church has made idols of them.
The "women in ministry debate has been raging for centuries" . . . "in the 1980's"
It actually has. Since the 1600's
@@ea-tr1jh Hello! Thank you for the reply. I am aware that some Anabaptists allowed women to preach in the 16th century as did some groups of the Holiness and Restoration Movements in the 19th century. However, I have not read about any serious attempt to ordain women from the Protestant, Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox traditions until the 20th century. Do you know of any?
Actually, it has been raging since the time of Paul.
@@ctvtmo The United Methodist denomination and some Pentecostal and Presbyterian as well as other Wesleyan denominations
@@BleauxSavage Could you cite any calls for female elders or priests in the ancient or medieval church?
My church takes Complementarian view but I don't have any strong opinion on this(it doesn't keep me awake at night lol) btw I am a Korean and loving your Korean apartment tour lol
Thanks for the video!
Now I could draw the line between the two terms from biblical standpoint.
Hope to see many more informative video like this.
Thank you so much!!!
And which do you believe? Great video!
All are called to share the gospel.
C'mon sister, I love your heart in this. Only uplifting the body. Thank you.
Fantastic video!
As a male I am confused about how females buy into what is called complimentarianism. I also can't figure out why so called complimentarians have to label everyone.
So, men buying in to egalitarianism would be equally confusing by your logic, right? you have used the label complementarianism twice and you are wondering why someone else is using labels?
Being confused is not a sin, but being deceived is.
We are commanded to be thoroughly convinced about what we believe, and of course that which is not of faith is sin.
Just found your videos today and love what you're doing! Could you tell me a bit more about yourself? I'm especially curious where you have studied!
+Jill Gayoway Thanks Jill! I received a Master's of Theology degree in New Testament from a seminary in the south. Thanks so much for watching!
You are "Freelee the Banana Girl's" doppelganger!
Looking at the source for those numbers they didn't ask men the same questions. Seems a bit if an oversight to not actually get anything to compare it to. 73% feel they could or should be doing more to serve God. If you ask men it could be the same or even higher. We just don't know.
Complementarianism
That false and confusing teaching, that states Christian women are less than
Christian men in a spiritual way, but they really aren't, but they really are.
The complementarian teaching prohibits a Christian woman from holding
certain positions in a church. They can't be elders neither can
they teach men. So why is that?
The false teaching makes it clear that the priesthood of the New Covenant
is tiered. There is a hierarchy. Those that are higher, the men, can be in
leadership positions, like elder. They can teach other men. Those in the
lower tier can not be in leadership positions, like elder. They are prohibited
from teaching men, because the men are in the higher tier. It wouldn't make
any sense.
A new believer is automatically assigned their level, higher or lower,
at the moment of salvation, as a birthright. Their gender determines
their tier. A Christian can not move to a higher or lower tier.
A Christian that is in the lower tier (woman) is not allowed to
complain of the tier she was placed in. That would be sin, because
God made her a woman by His choice. She should accept and also
embrace her position in the lower tier.
A church, is either a group of Christian men or a group of Christian men and women.
A church can never be a group of Christian women, because it would be
a group of only those in the lower tier. It would have no elders.
But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; for you once were not a people, but now you are the people of God; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.
-excerpt 1 Peter 2
Since the teaching states that women are spiritually inferior to men, but
they aren't, but they are, when did that start?
But I do not allow a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a wrongdoer.
-excerpt 1 Timothy 2
It started with the first woman. She was deceived, and sinned because of it. So we
have a teaching that accepts that men and women are fallen beings. Both genders
are sinful by nature. However women are different. They are lacking the ability
that men have to judge if some situation, some concept or teaching is sinful. This
inability was passed down from Eve to all women. It remains to this day. A woman
in our time was 'lacking' from birth, even from the womb.
So what can be done? Nothing according to Complementarianism. That is because
an anointing of that powerful masculine being called the Holy Spirit, is just not
sufficient. Even the Holy Spirit can not elevate even one Christian woman to the
spiritually superior level of a Christian man.
Leave the church?
women
You're disgusting
no, he's practical
It is not in the slightest "practical"
Egalitarianism is a damnable heresy, since 1 Timothy 2:12-14, 1 Timothy 3:1-5, and 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 make it very clear that women cannot be pastors, ministers, nor hold any other leadership position in the Church. Another thing that makes egalitarianism a damnable heresy is that egalitarianism denies the Biblical roles of men and women.
Lord willing, I plan on making a movie called The Egalitarian Delusion which is a movie that exposes the heresy of egalitarianism.
It takes a strong woman to be like the woman in speaking up like this. In the face of destroying roles & flipping sex like mr potatohead. neutralization through equality is not always a good thing. Women have tools & ways of raising children that Guys are not given from the nurturing standpoint... 50% of learning how relationships are built between a man and a woman are lost when its not traditional also. A man wont be taught how to be respectful & care for a woman if it is a homosexual ousting of the female in a relationship & a woman wont be taught value & partnership & complementary helpmet roles as a woman in a hate men lesbian relationship. This only comes from relationships of 1 each. As a social experiment, these last years, of trying to manipulate this will grow up the building rage & hate against others & pridefully enforcing natural relationships for unnatural ones & encouraging more pride. Don't forget pride, keeps you out in the flood in an ark rainbow that reminds us all of the flood, & that next time it will be fire. The original rainbow meant God is love & he will see you through the flood safely if you get rid of your pride & help build the ark & get in. Your lesson is pretty deep. Don't forget even satan uses the bible for temptations too. We need Strong women that will stand up to ego-tarian equalist... This is just using part of the nice parts of the bible... Its wrong & aka neutralization kills life. Pride separates & destroys. You can have both. You should have both & it is a balance too. Great video.
Amen. May Jesus Christ bless you for speaking the truth. Satan uses the Bible is coercive ways to sleep reality from God's word.
I love you all, brothers and sisters
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior 🙏
:-/ All I can say is , I keep away from what I call status quo riff-raff, let alone videos that even mention egalitarianism, because the long traumatic process of finding the Truth about masculinity and femininity that I went through was so costly, - and there are so few Christians who are secure in the truth about masculinity and femininity, that facing them with their huge amount of work and resistance to doing that work, is sickening, - particularly when considered in relation to the fact that the church is the pillar and ground of the Truth, and judgement begins in the house of God, - our failure to be light and salt in the world implicates the church in every abortion, suicide divorce etc.
I'm reasonably sure that angels find most church gatherings repugnant.
So many ignorant un-affirmed, robbed and confused, defiled and defiling little boys and girls in adult bodies, muddling their way through in the flesh, muddying the waters, and adding insult to injury to those who really need Jesus.
I'm not going to write a book here, but what I will say, is that I am so thoroughly convinced that Paul's teachings mean what they say, and that he said what God wanted him to say, - that I would rather be put to
death than deny divine order.
How many ding-a-lings with roots of bitterness, un-resolved issues, and wishy-washy ideas of Utopian democracy, and spurious equality based on sexless efficiency - who are basically liars and lovers of self, trying to save themselves, are prepared to be put to death rather than deny their fanciful egalitarian mockery of the perfect work of Christ that restored the image and glory of God.
Amen. That was moving. I am willing to die for my beliefs in God's word. I believe exactly how it was written is exactly what it means. Anything more or anything less is a sin.
Every scripture is inspired by God. do not lean in your own understanding. What is written will never be erase because the word of god will live forever and ever. what i understand this is a test of obedience to female. because from the beginning the women has a disobedience attitude. This is a test to the female about obedience.
That's a load of bs, there's a difference between being inspired by and being written by. You can't be a biblicap literalist due to the contradictions between God's teachings and the words of prophets
Contradictions? Interested to see your biblical exegesis and foundation for such a claim
I hate to tell you this bro, but regardless of which view is right, women aren't the only ones who transgress. Men have disobeyed God throughout the ages.
@@kristincoyne7007 lol.