I said it back in 2010.. the day David Ortiz gets inducted into the HOF i will be there in Cooperstown, NY .. he has single handedly brought me more tear-induced joy than any player in sports ever has or ever will.. i will walk to Cooperstown if i have to, i feel like i owe him that.
And Clemens and A-Roid,and Bonds brought joy to their fans…none of them are in nor should be Big juicy getting in reflects kind of MSM Hollywood and leftists…telling us what’s right n wrong Was separated baseball from the other sports is their history and the connection to numbers and statistics. That has now ended
Celtic Bird- Come on, you so call yourself a Yankee fan and you name yourself Celtic Bird. That’s a joke, as real true die hard Yankee fan, you shouldn’t have anything that connect you to any Boston team.
@@shocky377if he tested positive for steroids then why was he never suspended?ive never heard of any major league player testing positive and not getting suspended.also note that this story was leaked by a reporter from ny.coincidence? I doubt it.
"Never the best hitter in his league!" Bro, he won two Hank Aaron awards -- one for each time you said this -- for being the best hitter in his league. "He was never the best run producer." He had three RBI titles. Almost everything Kellerman is saying is just...factually wrong.
It's short down the lines and deep every where else. I don't care about stadiums however. It's not fair to a player, they didn't build the stadiums. And why do we never use the stadium with pitchers? Pitchers who pitch in bigger stadiums shouldn't get in?
Bonds and clemens and sosa were shooting up in the bathroom before a game. They literally had trainers sticking needles in their asses before they went and hit their 50th homer or pitch 20 ks. Ortiz failed one test before he was even on the red sox, never failed one since, and his numbers shot up while he was clean.
mksrookies McGwire has to appear in front of the fucking us senate. Ortiz failed once on the twins, never again. Also the writers aren’t pissing in the cup or intercepting it before it gets to the mlb. They can not report it but the mlb would find out and that’s all that matters lol. He’s not a cheater. Ortiz was Way better than manny, way more clutch, way more consistent, and played well for way longer. Also bonds and Clemens and Sosa would literally walk into the field with a band aid over where they shot up literally 5 minutes before the game. Also it’s so unfair to all the clean players to say the ones who actually used steroids did nothing wrong. Think about it, you spend your whole life working, and hit the gym everyday. Your really the best player in the league, but because a few guys shoot shit into their asses Your not even recognized. Oh, and then everyone feels bad for THEM and not YOU.
mksrookies That’s not food rage that’s having getting dealt a bullshit call and then having some of the most cancers fans be dicks to you. Not justifying it but it’s not rood rage. Also it’s never ever even been argued that he took roofs in the second half of his career. Only 2003.
Not only the numbers and the clutch factor make him a first ballot hall of famer, but what you left put was the impact he had on the city of Boston. Few people in the history of sports have cultivated a city the way David Ortiz has. Max is just hating on Boston like he always does.
He played in the America’s league. The DH is is an position if you go by the rules in the mlb America league rules. He the best DH to do it. First Ballot yes please
the argument that he didn't play defense holds no water. He would be inducted as a hall of fame DH not a hall of fame position player. The fact is without him the Red Sox may still be waiting to break the "curse of the bambino". Combine that with the iconic figure he has been for the game and it's a no brainer.
So Max is saying a DH can never be in the hall of fame? . You could pull the no defense argument on every dh in the league. Plus, by that logic, AL pitchers shouldn't be in the hall of fame because they only play half the game for about 7-8 innings. And they're part of a rotation, they only play about a quarter of the games. But there are plenty of hall of fame pitchers. You have to judge him relative to other people in his position. We don't compare kickers to quarterbacks! Compared to other DH's David Ortiz is one of the best ever.
wonder how mr. yankee fan kellerman feels about Mo Rivera? by his own logic Rivera shouldn't be a HOF'er because he was a specialist that only pitched 1 inning a game
You both make great points. And speaking of Mo, in regards to this DH debate, who has he repeatedly stated was the best hitter he ever faced? Yep, Edgar Martinez. One of the best designated hitters - or simply pure hitters - to ever play the game. If Ortiz should be in, which I think he should, Edgar should be, too.
@@GoCeltics734 agreed. Mo pitched 5 seasons worth of innings. So he shouldn't be in. Now obv they both should be. If you play a position that exists...
My great-grandfather was a lifelong Sox fan. He always wanted to see them win a World Series. Unfortunately, he passed away in 2003, aged 79. I was too young to remember 2004, but I remember 07, 13 and 18 like they were yesterday. David Ortiz did not help the Red Sox, he *was* the Boston Red Sox. If he’s not a first ballot HOFer, idk who is
3 times world champion, with a team that couldn't win or go to the world series for an entire generation and he single handedly beat the yankees to put away the curse, for that alone he should not only be a first ballot hall of famer but the greatest red sox hitter ever! and the most clutch hitter in history.
I hate the Red Sox with a passion but, David (big papa) Ortiz is a first ballot hall of famer... No doubt about it. The man was a beast... Max shut the hell up... You know squat... I'm a Yankees fan. And I appreciate David Ortiz and how he played.
As far as the PED issue, just look at the guy. His head didn't explode like Bonds,he wasn't a musclebound freak like Mc'guire and Sosa. And he didn't lie about it like Braun. Now about baseball, 3 time World Series champion. The greatest clutch hitter in baseball history. What he did in 2004 alone would qualify for that distinction,but he went on to win 2 more World Series after that. The Fenway Park argument is ridiculous,he was a left-handed pull hitter. Finally the defense argument,I have no doubt he would still be a Hall of Fame player(first ballot) even if he played 1st base his entire carrer. You can't penalize him for that simply because hitting brings more value than defense. He was also a cultural icon,who always had a smile and a funny joke or an incredible competive spirit. First ballot no doubt,baseball will never see anybody like him again.
Stephen A. is a basketball expert and still has bad takes here and there even in his own sport. It has nothing to do with what sport you’re an expert in.
Max I thought you knew more about baseball. This guy had one of the most outstanding performance in clutch moments if not the best plus great numbers and you justify not to put him in the first ballot, you're hilarious
In 20 seasons Ortiz played 279 games as a first baseman. He made 23 errors in his career. His fielding percentage was .990. Not great but not horrible. 21 of his 23 career errors came in his first 11 seasons. In his last 9 years with the Red Sox he went errorless for 7 of them, making one error in 2009, and one in 2015. He played 1st base during many interleague games during that time. In the 2007 World Series, Ortiz threw out a runner at third from across the diamond.
Ortiz had 241 career home runs at home (222 of them at Fenway Park), far less than the 300 HR he hit on the road. Yes, he had a higher average and more doubles at home, but if anything Fenway took away a lot home runs from him due to the deep right field. It's true his overall numbers were better at home, but the home/road splits are not drastic enough to hold it against him, he still had over .500 SLG and around .900 OPS on the road for his career to go along with those 300 HR.
People who try to point to the "increased doubles at home" matrix as a sign of PED's have quite literally never watched a game at fenway park, or even seen the green monster
How in he'll max got this job? He said Ortiz got released by Minnesota, what that has to do on what Ortiz has accomplished, the best clutch hitter of all time,
David Ortiz is a slam-dunk first ballot hall of famer. This shouldn't be a discussion. He hit over 540 home runs, over 600 doubles, and was one of the defining faces of baseball for a decade and a half. He still is one of the biggest faces and he's been retired forever.
what about steroids lol. If bonds and clemens are not in why should he be first ballot? bonds and clemens are worth more than twice as ortiz in WAR? Edgar martinez was a better DH with no steroid link and it took him 10 years to get in.
Ortiz is arguably the greatest DH of all time with all the other people that play it and come up short to his hitting. He is also arguably the clutches hitter of all time. I don’t know a guy that performed with bigger clutch hits than he did and was as feared as him
Fielding is part of the game, pitching is part of the game, also relief pictching is a very important part of the game...Oh yeah and D.H.(Designated Hitter)is part of the game of baseball, too!!....in this nine inning of game of baseball all positions are valid parts of baseball...so with all being said and done....HELL YEAH DAVID ORTIZ SHOULD BE PART OF THE HALL OF FAME!!! Yep!, first-ballot Hall of Famer for sure 👍👍🙌
Coming from a Die Hard Yankees fan, there are only two Red Sox players that i actually really respected during my era - Nomar and David Ortiz .... just on what Ortiz did to my Yankees alone, i truly consider him a Hall of Famer - i don't know if he's first ballot or not, but he definitely deserves to be inducted at some point
Not to take away from Ortiz's teamates in anyway. But without Ortiz they do not win that 2004 ALCS and without Ortiz they do not win the 2013 World Series (pretty sure he hit over .500 in that series while rest of team hit under .200). He's the biggest reason they won in 2004 and he's the only reason they won in 2013. That's a stat that few if any can match.
Kevin M. Doyle Agreed! His argument against Brady seems more rooted in some deep, personal dislike, rather than any fact based analysis, which is what Max should be relying on as a well paid analyst.
1. Yankee Stadium is just as easy a park to hit out of as Fenway Park. 2. Max Kellerman always relies on analytics and numbers, except for oddly now. 3. Point proven.
Kellermans bail out argument was that he played at Fenway. He hit 59 more road homers than he did at home. Kellermans didn't do his homework and was reaching bc Stephen A had him over a barrel.
A Yankee fan spilling the sour grapes all over the place. As for hitting in Fenway park a lot of David Ortiz home runs went to right field which is like 380 feet away. Don’t knock his Fenway park abilities. Just his clutch hitting which is unparalleled in major league history as long as I’ve been alive 68 years, he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer
Ortiz is a great player ..and a great human being....palillo santiago was a mlb player from p.r. he got i think hes grandaughter sick. ...and need it money....some guys in p.r. organize some activities to raise money...and ortiz was confirmed ..he could not go ..but call palillo and told him ...i can't be there but ..i will send to you ...some money to help your. granddaughter ...i will never forget that ..ortiz was a great player but most important a better person .
Here's my stance: Even the best defensive player to ever play can't get into the Hall of Fame on that alone. So why should David Ortiz be denied the honor when he didn't need to play defense because of his position?
The Fenway argument is completely invalid. Papi hit lefty in Fenway which is 380 ft to the bullpens in right field. Ortiz pulled the ball 48% of the time and hit to center 33%. Straightaway center in Fenway is 420 ft. Now compare this to 310 to the monster in left. Fenway has never been a friendly ballpark to lefties that tend to pull the ball more often than not.
THOME WAS EVERY BIT THE HITTER OF ORTIZ?????? Thome had a better OBP, and more home runs. That is it. Ortiz had more hits, a better average, struck out less, 7 more All Star selections, and 6 more Silver Sluggers than Thome. Get it right Max. Don't disrespect Big Papi like that
2003 test result says he used PED's. Got tested many times after. Never tested positive after that, yet kept putting up great numbers without PED's. That tells me PED's never made any difference for him if he was using.
ortiz.vslue to his team. is unprecedented..best vlutch hitter when it mattered most..over 500 homers. in the biggest rihht field in mjirs..wsnt proven he took peds..just heresy..mr.ortiz..your hall of fmerr in my book
Thome did nothing to help his team win titles or any other players he brings up. One side of the ball what about AL pitchers in the hall. Shut up, Max Kellerman.
Not just Rivera, but all American League pitchers because they never hit. Total BS of course, but not for the old school throwbacks who want to re-litigate the DH rule. Such people suffer from DH Delusional Syndrome. They evaluate HOF eligibility based on MLB rules of the 1960s. It's as if there was some sort of decision that didn't go their way, so they blame anyone they can find.
I said it back in 2010.. the day David Ortiz gets inducted into the HOF i will be there in Cooperstown, NY .. he has single handedly brought me more tear-induced joy than any player in sports ever has or ever will.. i will walk to Cooperstown if i have to, i feel like i owe him that.
Ask and u shall receive
Looks like you've got a trip to plan :).
Pack your bags!!
And Clemens and A-Roid,and Bonds brought joy to their fans…none of them are in nor should be
Big juicy getting in reflects kind of MSM Hollywood and leftists…telling us what’s right n wrong
Was separated baseball from the other sports is their history and the connection to numbers and statistics. That has now ended
@@jayclarke9611 I didn't read all that, but I'm really happy for you..or you know, like sorry that happened or whatever.
"As a Yankee fan...."
Your argument goes right out the window when you say that.
For real 😂😂
Celtic Bird- Come on, you so call yourself a Yankee fan and you name yourself Celtic Bird. That’s a joke, as real true die hard Yankee fan, you shouldn’t have anything that connect you to any Boston team.
Tony Dude, he was quoting the video when max said it... he is obviously not a yankee fan...
Except a lot of Yankees fans respect the hell of him as a player. I bet you like those opinions
That was great when the Yankees lost 4 straight in 2004.
Max, I'm sorry. But don't ever talk baseball again
E-Wrecked Gamer 💯
E-Wrecked Gamer ..... Max is a piece of shirts who doesn't know baseball. You are correct, he shouldn't talk baseball
IDK...what he said made a lot of sense 🤔
Statistically Ortiz isn't a HOF, not even that close
Jackson Nielsen are you high? His stats are definitely HOF material.
3 time world series champion!!! Dont forget 2007.
Also tested positive for steroids...but sure
2004 2007 2013 I believe... Iwas like wait I aint no damn red sox fan but dammit I know who he is 3 rings
@@shocky377if he tested positive for steroids then why was he never suspended?ive never heard of any major league player testing positive and not getting suspended.also note that this story was leaked by a reporter from ny.coincidence? I doubt it.
Stephen A does this regularly. He misstates the facts all the time. However, despite that I usually agree.
Alex Rivas david ortiz name is on the mitchell report.
"Never the best hitter in his league!" Bro, he won two Hank Aaron awards -- one for each time you said this -- for being the best hitter in his league. "He was never the best run producer." He had three RBI titles. Almost everything Kellerman is saying is just...factually wrong.
Fenway is 20th in hitters park factor too. Legit every single point is a lie.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but after seeing this I would rather have skip Bayless back than max.
Alexander Macri in this case he is 100% wrong, but no, just no. All skip does is spew nonsense about the cowboys and dak prescott and Tim Tebow
Max Kellerman sucks. He should only talk about boxing. He’s horrible.
And Skip doesn’t know shit about baseball either!!
Kellerman may be worse than skip and that’s saying a lot
So if the Fenway park argument is valid then Yankees players should be knocked for playing at Yankee stadium
Ortiz wasn't a bad defensive 1st base man
How would the Fenway argument help a left-handed hitter? It's like 380 to the bullpen.
@@ajaded1 Exactly, Fenway has the longest right field in the entire league.
Yankee Stadium has the dimensions of a whiffle ball park. The first time I went to Yankees Stadium I couldn’t believe how small the field was.
It's short down the lines and deep every where else. I don't care about stadiums however. It's not fair to a player, they didn't build the stadiums. And why do we never use the stadium with pitchers? Pitchers who pitch in bigger stadiums shouldn't get in?
DAVID ORTIZ IS A FIRST BALLOT HALL OF FAMER.
@mksrookies hank Aaron used amphetamines as a player LMAO
Bonds and clemens and sosa were shooting up in the bathroom before a game. They literally had trainers sticking needles in their asses before they went and hit their 50th homer or pitch 20 ks. Ortiz failed one test before he was even on the red sox, never failed one since, and his numbers shot up while he was clean.
mksrookies McGwire has to appear in front of the fucking us senate. Ortiz failed once on the twins, never again. Also the writers aren’t pissing in the cup or intercepting it before it gets to the mlb. They can not report it but the mlb would find out and that’s all that matters lol. He’s not a cheater. Ortiz was Way better than manny, way more clutch, way more consistent, and played well for way longer. Also bonds and Clemens and Sosa would literally walk into the field with a band aid over where they shot up literally 5 minutes before the game. Also it’s so unfair to all the clean players to say the ones who actually used steroids did nothing wrong. Think about it, you spend your whole life working, and hit the gym everyday. Your really the best player in the league, but because a few guys shoot shit into their asses
Your not even recognized. Oh, and then everyone feels bad for THEM and not
YOU.
mksrookies back it up
mksrookies That’s not food rage that’s having getting dealt a bullshit call and then having some of the most cancers fans be dicks to you. Not justifying it but it’s not rood rage. Also it’s never ever even been argued that he took roofs in the second half of his career. Only 2003.
kellerman you do not know baseball
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Not only the numbers and the clutch factor make him a first ballot hall of famer, but what you left put was the impact he had on the city of Boston. Few people in the history of sports have cultivated a city the way David Ortiz has. Max is just hating on Boston like he always does.
Nah its mostly because he tested positive for steroids. But Boston fans like to forget about that
Thot What, you mean like, A Rod, Giambi, Clemens, Pettitte, and Sheffiemd?
Drew Kaplan he probably won’t because he took peds
mksrookies yup because in 2003 Papi was 28
He was really old. Nothing to do with that being his prime. All steroids
David Dolan it’s exactly what he said, he tested positive for steroids so stfu
He’s in. Good job Steven A
He played in the America’s league. The DH is is an position if you go by the rules in the mlb America league rules. He the best DH to do it. First Ballot yes please
3 time World Series champ
4 TIMES :) This Century
World Series MVP 2013
ALCS MVP 2004
Gym Style he was not on the last championship team
He’s the most important player in franchise history
he should be a first ballot hall of famer with 90% #DominicanPower
David oroidz
LoganFuzz STFU! BIG PAPI IS GOING TO THE HALL OF FAME PERIOD.
LoganFuzz a-roids
It's very possible.
nothin but respect for ortiz but he took steroids which will hurt his chances
the argument that he didn't play defense holds no water. He would be inducted as a hall of fame DH not a hall of fame position player. The fact is without him the Red Sox may still be waiting to break the "curse of the bambino". Combine that with the iconic figure he has been for the game and it's a no brainer.
So Max is saying a DH can never be in the hall of fame? . You could pull the no defense argument on every dh in the league. Plus, by that logic, AL pitchers shouldn't be in the hall of fame because they only play half the game for about 7-8 innings. And they're part of a rotation, they only play about a quarter of the games. But there are plenty of hall of fame pitchers. You have to judge him relative to other people in his position. We don't compare kickers to quarterbacks! Compared to other DH's David Ortiz is one of the best ever.
wonder how mr. yankee fan kellerman feels about Mo Rivera? by his own logic Rivera shouldn't be a HOF'er because he was a specialist that only pitched 1 inning a game
You both make great points. And speaking of Mo, in regards to this DH debate, who has he repeatedly stated was the best hitter he ever faced? Yep, Edgar Martinez. One of the best designated hitters - or simply pure hitters - to ever play the game. If Ortiz should be in, which I think he should, Edgar should be, too.
@@GoCeltics734 agreed. Mo pitched 5 seasons worth of innings. So he shouldn't be in. Now obv they both should be. If you play a position that exists...
No, hes saying not on the first ballot. I agree. Not only did he not play the field, the one thing he did do he used PEDs to be better at.
Max said he’s hall of fame, just not first ballot.
My great-grandfather was a lifelong Sox fan. He always wanted to see them win a World Series. Unfortunately, he passed away in 2003, aged 79. I was too young to remember 2004, but I remember 07, 13 and 18 like they were yesterday. David Ortiz did not help the Red Sox, he *was* the Boston Red Sox. If he’s not a first ballot HOFer, idk who is
Nooo that’s so sad he just needed one more year 😔
David Ordtiz is and will be a legend for thousands years. HOF for ever. You hear me Max......?
It’s a popularity contest at this point. They let one PED user in then let the rest in.
So he failed a secret test. Then he went on to hit monster seasons without failing any test. Truly a hall of fame
3 times world champion, with a team that couldn't win or go to the world series for an entire generation and he single handedly beat the yankees to put away the curse, for that alone he should not only be a first ballot hall of famer but the greatest red sox hitter ever! and the most clutch hitter in history.
I hate the Red Sox with a passion but, David (big papa) Ortiz is a first ballot hall of famer... No doubt about it. The man was a beast... Max shut the hell up... You know squat... I'm a Yankees fan. And I appreciate David Ortiz and how he played.
As far as the PED issue, just look at the guy. His head didn't explode like Bonds,he wasn't a musclebound freak like Mc'guire and Sosa. And he didn't lie about it like Braun. Now about baseball, 3 time World Series champion. The greatest clutch hitter in baseball history. What he did in 2004 alone would qualify for that distinction,but he went on to win 2 more World Series after that. The Fenway Park argument is ridiculous,he was a left-handed pull hitter. Finally the defense argument,I have no doubt he would still be a Hall of Fame player(first ballot) even if he played 1st base his entire carrer. You can't penalize him for that simply because hitting brings more value than defense. He was also a cultural icon,who always had a smile and a funny joke or an incredible competive spirit. First ballot no doubt,baseball will never see anybody like him again.
He was a steroid user...failed a test in 2003.
A rod took roids as well
@@gomezw760 b******* dude if he have you steroids he would have been suspended like everyone else has been suspended since the 2000s
The public was never supposed to know at that point that he'd been taking a test for steroids
@@kalebflynn3951 doesn't change the fact he tested positive.
Kellerman represents the mistakes of ESPN. A freaking boxing expert talking baseball. On top of that, he is a New Yorker that can't be objective.
He's a baseball guy. He's on record saying baseball was his favorite sport growing up.
Stephen A. is a basketball expert and still has bad takes here and there even in his own sport. It has nothing to do with what sport you’re an expert in.
Edgar Martinez never won anything. I have never seen a highlight of Edgar... Ortiz is immortal
Guess what max? He is a first ballot
Hall of Famer! Just got in!💯
Max I thought you knew more about baseball. This guy had one of the most outstanding performance in clutch moments if not the best plus great numbers and you justify not to put him in the first ballot, you're hilarious
In 20 seasons Ortiz played 279 games as a first baseman. He made 23 errors in his career. His fielding percentage was .990. Not great but not horrible.
21 of his 23 career errors came in his first 11 seasons.
In his last 9 years with the Red Sox he went errorless for 7 of them, making one error in 2009, and one in 2015. He played 1st base during many interleague games during that time.
In the 2007 World Series, Ortiz threw out a runner at third from across the diamond.
👍
it was the 2004 world series in St Louis that he made the out at third
Edgar Martinez should've been in the hall of fame
Edgar should have been selected sooner than his 10th and final year of the baseball writers ballots. Hes been in the HOF since 2019.
Ortiz had 241 career home runs at home (222 of them at Fenway Park), far less than the 300 HR he hit on the road. Yes, he had a higher average and more doubles at home, but if anything Fenway took away a lot home runs from him due to the deep right field. It's true his overall numbers were better at home, but the home/road splits are not drastic enough to hold it against him, he still had over .500 SLG and around .900 OPS on the road for his career to go along with those 300 HR.
People who try to point to the "increased doubles at home" matrix as a sign of PED's have quite literally never watched a game at fenway park, or even seen the green monster
How in he'll max got this job? He said Ortiz got released by Minnesota, what that has to do on what Ortiz has accomplished, the best clutch hitter of all time,
Luis Sang totally agree with that. Some of the best players not only in baseball but all sports go to new teams and because all star caliber players
Luis Sang good cuestión 😂😂😂
David Ortiz is a slam-dunk first ballot hall of famer. This shouldn't be a discussion. He hit over 540 home runs, over 600 doubles, and was one of the defining faces of baseball for a decade and a half. He still is one of the biggest faces and he's been retired forever.
what about steroids lol. If bonds and clemens are not in why should he be first ballot? bonds and clemens are worth more than twice as ortiz in WAR? Edgar martinez was a better DH with no steroid link and it took him 10 years to get in.
@@mikeliu6658 he didn’t even do roids. He failed a test in 2003 but nothing for the remaining 13 years of his career
Correction THREE TIME WORLD SERIES CHAMPION GO RED SOX
Good lord. If Papi isn’t a first ballot HOF, then nobody is. No one in modern history has been more clutch than DO. One amazing ball player
So Bonds, who's probably twice as valuable doesn't get to go in but Ortiz will?
PEDs
@@mistersunshine1330 yes, I realize the evidence for both of them using PEDs is exactly equal.
I have never disagreed with Max more! And I have disagreed with him a lot!
The DH spot is still a position on the score card and someone has to fill it and David Ortiz filled it better than anyone
Is A NFL Kicker A Position Player
Greatest world series player of all time
What He Is A 100 Time Hall Of Fame
10 time all star and beloved in Boston..... AUTOMATIC ..First Ballot Hall of Famer
BIG PAPI batted .700 in a WORLD SERIES!!!!
LEGEND!
Ortiz is arguably the greatest DH of all time with all the other people that play it and come up short to his hitting. He is also arguably the clutches hitter of all time. I don’t know a guy that performed with bigger clutch hits than he did and was as feared as him
Fielding is part of the game, pitching is part of the game, also relief pictching is a very important part of the game...Oh yeah and D.H.(Designated Hitter)is part of the game of baseball, too!!....in this nine inning of game of baseball all positions are valid parts of baseball...so with all being said and done....HELL YEAH DAVID ORTIZ SHOULD BE PART OF THE HALL OF FAME!!! Yep!, first-ballot Hall of Famer for sure 👍👍🙌
You've lost credibility Max.
Coming from a Die Hard Yankees fan, there are only two Red Sox players that i actually really respected during my era - Nomar and David Ortiz .... just on what Ortiz did to my Yankees alone, i truly consider him a Hall of Famer - i don't know if he's first ballot or not, but he definitely deserves to be inducted at some point
What about Wakefield, Lowe, Nixon, etc?
If David Ortiz is a hall-of-famer, Edgar Martinez should be in as well.
How does Fenway help for a LEFT HANDED HITTER, meanwhile max doesnt mention the little league field that is Yankee stadium
It doesnt. Fenway is 380 to right field. One of the deepest in the league. Kellerman is an uneducated woman beater.
I love how two Yankees fans are bringing up steroids like really you want to talk
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Not to take away from Ortiz's teamates in anyway. But without Ortiz they do not win that 2004 ALCS and without Ortiz they do not win the 2013 World Series (pretty sure he hit over .500 in that series while rest of team hit under .200). He's the biggest reason they won in 2004 and he's the only reason they won in 2013. That's a stat that few if any can match.
ortiz hit .688 in the 2013 world series.
3 time World Series champ big papi
Oh Max. Talking about that 2003 test. Some players that are in the hall of fame. Piazza, Rodriguez, etc..
I hate how people judge players by where the stadium they played in.
3 time World Series champ 03 07 and 2013
Joshua Weiss 04*
He was a 3x World Series champion not 2x he won in 04, 07, and 13
Max is just a hater against all Boston teams. He also thinks that Brady is overrated.
Kevin M. Doyle Agreed! His argument against Brady seems more rooted in some deep, personal dislike, rather than any fact based analysis, which is what Max should be relying on as a well paid analyst.
He is from New York what a surprise a salty yankee fan
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1. Yankee Stadium is just as easy a park to hit out of as Fenway Park. 2. Max Kellerman always relies on analytics and numbers, except for oddly now. 3. Point proven.
Kellermans bail out argument was that he played at Fenway. He hit 59 more road homers than he did at home. Kellermans didn't do his homework and was reaching bc Stephen A had him over a barrel.
What a putz!!! Big Poppi is the king of clutch!!
A Yankee fan spilling the sour grapes all over the place. As for hitting in Fenway park a lot of David Ortiz home runs went to right field which is like 380 feet away. Don’t knock his Fenway park abilities. Just his clutch hitting which is unparalleled in major league history as long as I’ve been alive 68 years, he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer
Man predicted it
Big papi could play 1B pretty well ,He did play some Defense years in the bigs and winter ball.
Clutch. Clutch. Clutch
Im a Yankee fan, and David Ortiz deserves to be in the hall before Jeter. Red Sox would still be a disgrace without this man.
KELLERMAN SHOULD STICK WITH BOXING
Ortiz is a great player ..and a great human being....palillo santiago was a mlb player from p.r. he got i think hes grandaughter sick. ...and need it money....some guys in p.r. organize some activities to raise money...and ortiz was confirmed ..he could not go ..but call palillo and told him ...i can't be there but ..i will send to you ...some money to help your. granddaughter ...i will never forget that ..ortiz was a great player but most important a better person .
I like that as Max is being wrong about David Ortiz, an ad pops up for a segment about him being wrong about Tom Brady
Update: David Ortiz IS a First-Ballot Hall of Famer!!
David Ortiz hit 59 more home runs on the road Max
Here's my stance: Even the best defensive player to ever play can't get into the Hall of Fame on that alone. So why should David Ortiz be denied the honor when he didn't need to play defense because of his position?
Ozzie Smith is in the hall of fame. Who are you talking about?
Where can I find 30min of edgar Martinez clutch highlights? I just watched David Ortiz 30min of clutch highlights
Who is watching this today when David Wins first ballot Hall of fame??
this is the smartest thing Stephen A smith has ever said
The Fenway argument is completely invalid. Papi hit lefty in Fenway which is 380 ft to the bullpens in right field. Ortiz pulled the ball 48% of the time and hit to center 33%. Straightaway center in Fenway is 420 ft. Now compare this to 310 to the monster in left. Fenway has never been a friendly ballpark to lefties that tend to pull the ball more often than not.
David Ortiz is definitely a first ballot HOF.
THOME WAS EVERY BIT THE HITTER OF ORTIZ?????? Thome had a better OBP, and more home runs. That is it. Ortiz had more hits, a better average, struck out less, 7 more All Star selections, and 6 more Silver Sluggers than Thome. Get it right Max. Don't disrespect Big Papi like that
HE HAD A 1.000 OPS IN HIS LAST SEASON!
Well it happened. First ballot HOF. Congrats Big Papi
2003 test result says he used PED's. Got tested many times after. Never tested positive after that, yet kept putting up great numbers without PED's. That tells me PED's never made any difference for him if he was using.
E. James Shepard it wasn’t even PEDs it was something
ortiz.vslue to his team. is unprecedented..best vlutch hitter when it mattered most..over 500 homers. in the biggest rihht field in mjirs..wsnt proven he took peds..just heresy..mr.ortiz..your hall of fmerr in my book
best DH ever!
One word clutch, or Mr. Clutch, he willed the Sox to the 04 World Series. Straight to the Hall end of story.
Thome did nothing to help his team win titles or any other players he brings up. One side of the ball what about AL pitchers in the hall. Shut up, Max Kellerman.
Being clutch as he was coming from the bench day in and day out year after year ... yeah any bod can play DH
Should be, and is. Welcome 34 to the HOF!
David Ortiz was baseball for over 14 years
Anyone else watching this video shortly after David Ortiz got into the hall fame as a first-ballot?
“This is our fucking city”
Yeeeees, Max
Well he called it
This aged well
Max whatever you say nobody has done what he has done in postseason and also his career numbers...Bring back Skip ESPN get rid of this clown...
He got in
He never tested positive and there's always a secret test on athletes that are not public
He tested positive for SOMETHING, but they never even released what it was
Failed PED test in 2003, he was a steroid user
@@gomezw760 wrong he didnt not test positve
Wrong he is a steroid user..he was included in mitchells report in 2003. Look it up.
@@gomezw760 no hes not
Wow. Just when Max looked clueless he opens his mouth on Ortiz .Wow.
BIG PAPI FIRST BALLOT HALL OF FAMER.
So by Max argument pitchers like Mariano Rivera can't get in HF because the never give you value in the offense department. ¿? ¡?
Not just Rivera, but all American League pitchers because they never hit. Total BS of course, but not for the old school throwbacks who want to re-litigate the DH rule. Such people suffer from DH Delusional Syndrome. They evaluate HOF eligibility based on MLB rules of the 1960s. It's as if there was some sort of decision that didn't go their way, so they blame anyone they can find.
Stephen #1
Wait. How is this a debate? Who doesn't think he's a first ballot Hall of Famer.
(I haven't watched the video yet)