Clod Buster Build Update
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2022
- Update on the Gray Edition Clod Buster. I made a small mistake and letting you all know so hopefully you all can avoid making the same goof. I am not sure how much of an impact it would have been but would rather not cause undue wear and tear and performance impacts!
You guys are all awesome and I appreciate all the great comments and questions from everyone. Really enjoying talking to you all in the comments section.
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It's a bit of a grey area .....you have to love to honesty of youtube comments as I said in my vid there's a wealth of knowledge out there you obviously know your stuff to great vid bro can't waite to see it run 👊
LOL! I did know better and just got too excited and was too scatter brained to remember it when building this would be an issue. I am sure it would have run fine but wanted to put the correct info out there to help other and it would have driven me nuts to run it with the mismatched motors in there! I will get it out this running this weekend along with the M&M truck and those will be out shortly!
This is so awesone! I was gonna mention that on RUclips first video, but someone already mentioned it.☺️. Shen RC put RC4WD 20t motors in his clod, Since those were zero timed motors. For my motors I used 2 HPI firebolt 15t motors with a HW 880 esc. The HPI firebolts are also zero timed. I have been using the combo for many years on my Clods with no issues. And with a 2s it’s pretty peppy.☺️. I just recently got the grey edition also and I didn’t care for the new decals so I ordered a MCI racing 80’s clod repo decals and instead of yellow stripe I changed the color to Cyan blue which is similar to the blue on the grey clod. I like the decal of Klub klebfoot crushing the clod.😀. Honestly, I didn’t care for Luke’s color on his clod along the cyan blue roll bar, but to each their own!☺️. I just left the grey on the clod and just put clear coat on the body. Anyway, great job on the clod! Can’t wait to see you run it. I know I will!😀🤙🏻
Thanks!! I know better and was just too excited and scatterbrained to think about it. I wanted it to be a little faster than stock but not too much so went with the 23 turn and we will see how it goes! The decals from MCI sound cool and will certainly give it a look all it's own. The only thing I don't like about these decals is cutting out the chrome mylar ones! They are always a pain to see what you are doing and you have to be so dead on with them to not have tiny edges of silver on them. I thought about clear coating it but kind of like the matte finish of it. Like you said, we all have our own ideas and preferences for them! I'd love to see yours once it is done, feel free to email me some pics of it once you get it all built up!!!
@@AddamsPlayground Sure thing Addam! I have to finish restoring a Nikko/Tronico Jumbo truck or Nikko Thor here in America. I just acquired a RadioShack Car crusher 2 as I was gonna use it for parts, but truck runs fine besides the cut off antenna of which I’m gonna just splice it back in place and soldier it so the truck can run further.🤣. I may just see if I can 3D print a part that the shock mounts to. As that part broke. I don’t think I will get a Nikko Thor or Hawg for parts since those trucks are so expensive even if it’s not running. I could get another hobby grade buggy or even another clod.🤣. These Nikko and RadioShack toys are also an arm and a leg.😕 maybe you can start a series on Nikko Thor/Hawg/Midnight thunder like the one on T2.😀. Love the content on the RadioShack Golden arrow. Maybe a series on the Nikko Dictator/Frame buggy/Rhino?🤔. Anyway, sorry for the rambling, once I get the clod assembled and decaled I’ll email pics to you. Keep up the great content RC wizard!
@@christopherdeguzman1137 I totally understand, the Nikko/Tyco/RS market is going off the rails and seems like everyone is fighting over them and driving the prices up. I have some other stuff here to mess around with it is just get to them is the problem. I am always getting distracted and drawn into other stuff and builds so they keep getting passed over. They will make an appearance at some point though.
Looking forward to the run video!
I am running it along with the M&M truck this weekend so those run videos will be coming up shortly! I am excited to see it bumbling about as well!
After watching it back to back to back over and over for me to be satisfied of my listings I can officially say that the gray looks better I own 3 clods 1,grey 2,black & 3,blue don’t want to grab anymore clods I have other builds to finish!.
I think the gray one is super nice looking! I love my black edition as the chrome stickers really pop on that one but the gray and blue colors they picked for this one really go well together and make it a really cool truck! I kind of want to build a retro one but really don't wanna spend that much for it right now and also have other stuff I need to get done! Thanks for watching!
Yep that's what I always tell people and they always say no they are not timed! I always run the 20T cheap $11 RC4WD crawler motors in mine. It looks sweet
Well we have proof now on video that they definitely run at different speeds forward and reverse so it means they are timed! I looked around and when I found these I got suckered into the pretty rebuildable cans and of course the blue sticker on it gives it more horsepower by default!!! LOL!! I know that are not going to be super fast, I was going to go with the 17t ones but knew I would flip it right away so I stayed with the tamer 23t!!!
@@AddamsPlayground yeah anything faster than those 20T I run your just going to break these trucks all the time... your 23T motors may be faster than those RC4WD 20T I use I think I got 16mph on 2s with the 20T motors.
I believe this color looks better.
I really like the gray, I like my black one as well but the gray and blue looks really nice!
Grats for fixing this problem. Have fun with this monster. Unfortunately this thing is not available in the EU. I will wait til they rere the black edition. Then my time will come 😎
Yeah it sucks that it is not going to be released outside of North America. The black edition is really nice as well!
Clod looks fantastic!!! Thanks for sharing your experience building this handsome monster.
Thank you!! It is my pleasure to share my goof ups with everyone so they can avoid the same mistakes! I will be getting this out running this weekend and will also get the M&M axial monster truck out to and those videos will be up shortly!
Bonus video is always a good thing - better than lost footage or banged up 🎥. Appreciate the heads up, I wasn’t aware of that motor difference. Have a great weekend.
Yeah, thankfully all cameras are safe and sound and I wanted to get this one out since I found out the hard way about the motors. I should.habe known better so wanted to let everyone know in case anyone was planning to do the same thing.
Hey the Clod looks fantastic Addam. That's really interesting about the motor timing and it's not something I'd have thought about at all. Nice to do that demo to prove the point. I look forward to seeing it running 🙂
Yeah, it didn't even cross my mind but somedays the only thing that does is the random chicken crossing the road!! LOL!! I was glad there was a noticeable difference in the video of them and the new ones were running perfectly. I will get it out running this weekend along with getting the M&M truck out there too so those videos will be coming shortly!
I truly didn't know that the sport tuned motor had timing, learned something new today. The paint scheme is beautiful and the the video that showed the tire speed was a great touch, I'm more of a visual person myself. Thanks for sharing, can't wait to see it's running video.💯💯💯💥💥🤜🤛
I wasn't thinking about it all when I grabbed them and stuck them in there! Thanks to one of the viewers that mentioned it and I immediately went out and checked and yup, running much different speeds. The zero timed ones I put in are running pretty much dead on and now I am much happier. I am pretty sure I could have run it the way it was but I knew it was wrong and it would have bugged me to no end!
Congratulations! You did a fantastic job on the super clod buster
Thank you! And it only took two tries! LOL! I had to fix the motor issue as I knew it was wrong and it would bug me plus it may help other select proper motor in their build in the future and not have to tear things apart and replace thing before getting to run it!
This is good to know. I was gonna put sport tuned in mine. Think I’ll just put the stock silver cans in for now
Yeah, I knew better but was too excited and scatterbrained to remember at the time! Thankfully one of the viewer kindly reminded me of it and I had to fix it! Build it with the silver cans as swapping them is pretty easy, I was thankful it didn't require any disassembly of the suspension!
Looks ace Addam! I’ve started my build now , chassis tub and gearboxes built , I remembered those nuts ;) im using 2 Holmes hobbies retro sport 21t motors mine, supposedly good in Clods ;) anyway mines a bit off yet I really look forward to seeing yours drive soon :)
Awesome! Glad you didn't have to take the gearboxes apart like I did! I am pretty sure that the retro sport motors are zero timed so you can run them in just about anything. I am going to get it out running this weekend. Enjoy the rest of the build and I am sure you are going to have a blast out running it around!!
Awesome update. Thank you..
Thanks! I did get it our recently for its first run and it was fun and it took a handful of tumbles but it is fine!!! Always loved these trucks and they nailed it with this color combo!!! Thanks for stopping by and checking it out!!
Looks good! You do a good job explaining things to us noobs.
Thanks! I know better to have put those motor in there, it just never clicked they were not going to work super great together! All is right now and I can be happy with it! Knowing stuff is not right bugs me to no end!!
Love the channel. Nice clod. Still the Row of Lunchboxes behind youare my favorites.👍
Hi Roger! Thanks for checking it out and I have to agree with you! I love my lunchies and they just make me smile!!! They will be making an appearance in an upcoming Sunday show next month!
Awesome truck. Thanks for explaining how the motor timing works. I like how you actually showed us what was going on. Great job man! 👍👍
Thanks! It was my pleasure to remind everyone through my goof about motor timing and why you need zero timed or matched timed motors for these trucks!
Learnt something new today. Never owned a 2 motor machine to date and am clueless about how they work. Glad you got it all sorted. I actually like that darker shade of grey. Looking forward to seeing this monster at your track!👍😊
I am more than happy to share my goof to help others learn from them! I knew better but was too excited to build it and too scattered brained to think about the motor timing. I should be able to get the ramps built today and get it out for run this weekend so I will get run footage of it and the M&M truck out soon! I do like the color a lot, just wish they had matched the molded color to the painted color better. A small complaint and I am terribly fortunate to have one so I won't nit-pick too much!
Great looking build on your truck Addam👌.
Thanks for the information on the motors!, I never knew that but after hearing you I totally understand now, thanks mate👍🦘🇦🇺
I am glad you learned a little something! I totally did it all on purpose to make an educational video for everyone and completely didn't forget all about motor timing when building it.... yeah, that's right... LOL!!! We all make goof ups and if I can share mine to help everyone else out then it was completely worth it!
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That's exactly what I thought you did Addam😂👌Please keep making goof ups so we can learn more👍🏆
@@outbackrcaustralia4895 sure thing! That's the easiest part of all this is goofing up!!
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😂👍 I'd be a natural at it
Great update on the clod and the info on the motors I don't have a clod but it's good to know
Yeah, I know better but was all excited about building it I didn't stop to think about them. I am sure it would have run fine but I know it is wrong and over time it would have really taxed that poor front motor a lot! All good now and will be running it this weekend!!!
Just found your channel and really enjoying the content! Thank You.
Awesome! Welcome in and I am glad you are enjoying the content! Much more to come!!
New subscriber, digging the channel brother, keep up the good work, good job on the clod!!
Well welcome into the family! I am glad you found the channel and are enjoying it! There is a ton of old stuff and plenty of new stuff coming to check out!! I appreciate the sub and you taking the time to leave the wonderful comment!
Hey Addam, great note on the motors. I would never had known that! Clod looks awesome 😎
Thank you! Yeah, sadly I know better but wasn't thinking. I see closed end-bell motor and immediately thing fixed zero degree timing but that is wrong and many are advance timing motors. I still have yet to drive the thing as other stuff came up and I have not had time. I vow to drive it tomorrow and get a video out very soon!!
Just a small bump in the rc road brother. Clod looks fantastic bud great job!
Yeah, it was just a frustrating one! I knew better and just wasn't thinking when I used them. The great thing is the RC family we have spoke up and reminded me (nicely too) that I had goofed and I am very appreciative for that! We all learn from each other and if my mistake can help someone else not make the same mistake then it is all good! Or get a chuckle out me being a bone head is fine too!
Glad you got that sorted mate and the blue/grey combo really pops on the big clod. Look forward to see it running
Thanks, I am happy now that it is right! It would have bugged me to no end to run it with the wonky motors! I should be getting it out for a run this weekend!
Great explanation on the motors Addam! Your Clod looks awesome!👍😊
Thanks Jeremy! I do love the look of it! I wish I had thought about it before I stuck them in but now I am kind of glad I didn't as it seems a lot of folks learned a little something from my goof so that was totally worth it!
That turned out really good
Thanks! The motor issue threw me off but as soon as I hit the throttle I knew it was going to have to be fixed and correct, zero timed motors were going to have to be put in! The Holmes Hobbies Retro Sport 21t are a great and affordable option as well!
I have the Team Brood 17t matched pair in mine. They are great motors and work perfect in the Clod. You will be happy with those.
I thought about going down the 17t in it but knew I would flip it over right away so went with something a little more tame. Plus these had the matching blue stickers so that automatically give it more horsepower right!?!?! LOL!!
I'm glad that you talked about Luke's vintage RC he has a great channel how much faster are these motors than the stock ones
Luke has a terrific channel and I love all his content! The motors I initially put in are a few mph faster but have more punch to them. I had to pull them out and go with the Team Brood zero degree timing motors and those pepped it up nicely. I can't remember but I think I went with the 21t motors in it. You can also got with the Holmes Hobbies Retro Sport motors as they are all zero degree timed as well. a pair of 21 or 19 turn of those would be great for it. I stuck with the 21t to not impact the run time but so much and I don't like tumbling it over either!
Good catch, it’s always something lol. Can’t wait to see it run with the new motors
Yeah thankfully one of the viewers mentioned it to me in the last video and I didn't have to read more than a few words of it and already knew I screwed up! I immediately went searching for replacements to get them as soon as possible to make this video. I hope I didn't lead anyone else down the wrong path and hope this prevents other from doin what I did! I am going to get it out for a run this weekend along with the M&M truck!
Looks great Addam glad you managed to sort the motors look forward to the running vid.. good job man 👍🤩🚴🏅great to see Andy RC has one in the UK to thanks to you and the RC Elf ❤
Yeah, it looks great and should run well on those motors. I am glad I was able to share my goof with everyone as a few folks did not know about motor timing so it was totally worth messing up to help out others! Plus these have blue stickers to match the truck, that has be at least a 10hp gain or something right? LOL! I was more than happy to help out with getting Andy his Clod and I am sure he is going to have a tone of fun with it!!!
@@AddamsPlayground yeah I did watch on the RCKicks channel a while ago and he mentioned the timing.. but to be honest it wasn't until after you posted this vid I remembered.. glad you got it sorted :) yeah blue stickers it'll definitely be faster hehe.. its great of you to help out others Adam :) awesome job man
It goes to show that no matter how long we are in the hobby there's always something to learn way better as it should 💪
I learn something new all the time! Sometimes the easy and other times the hard way
@@AddamsPlayground same here but I prefer the easy way 🤣
Amazing how you can get so excited about doing something and then realize later that that decision might come with some caveats. At least you found this out relatively soon. Love your blue tape example so you can see the issue in action!
Yeah, I got to excited to get started on it and just grabbed them without thinking! It happens and hope it'll keep others from goofing up like I did!
@@AddamsPlayground fyi….mine just arrived :) I’m afraid in Canada we don’t get things quite so fast.
@@FastFreddyRC Yeah, I have heard the boarder crossing adds quite some time to everything.
Looking good Addam! I know what goes up on my wishlist for christmas 😋
It is a terrific looking truck and the Clod if a great build and fun to drive! It is a shame they didn't release it world wide! I am sure they will slowly be arriving all over the word anyways. Fingers crossed you can get you one!
Great build and information on the motors, great video
Thanks Duke, I know better and should have thought about it before using them but I just too excited to build it! It is fixed now and I can be happy with the build now!
All that paint is a gray area.. I'll be here all week.
LOL, someone had to do it!
Great analysis and nice looking new motors👍
Thanks! I was frustrated with myself I didn't remember so I had to fix it before I could run it. I hate knowing something is not right. Also it may be helpful to others to learn from my mistake!
@@AddamsPlayground "I hate knowing something is not right", yes this feeling really hurts although the rest of the world don't even might notice the mistake. Have a nice weekend Addam.
@@RCBirds You too!!!
I think it looks great bro 👍🏻
Thanks Rob, I am happy now that it is fixed! I should be running it this weekend so a running video should be soon!
Nice work Addam you did way more work than I do on timing I just drive on loose surfaces and hope for the best
Thanks! It would have driven me nuts if I had left it. I am sure it would have probably been just fine but it would have bugged me. Plus I felt bad showing the chassis built with them in there and not making a public correction notice that it not a proper setup and could cause issues. As long as other learn from my mistakes it is all good. Now If I could just learn from them... LOL!
Darker grey actually looks amazing, perhaps a bit more sinister. Beautiful job and a Happy Halloween. 😊
The darker color and the matter finish does make it look cool. As good as Tamiya can be with matching the plastics to the paint codes I was a little shocked at the difference. Thanks for stopping by and Happy Halloween to you as well!
Having a front motor with slightly advanced timing in the front would be good for mud racing. More front wheel speed helps keep you straight. Or so I've heard. Nice truck!
Yeah, that could be a benefit. This one will probably never see mud in my life, maybe after I am gone it will. This one will remain a mall crawler truck, 😂
Looks good! I was wondering about the paint. I did buy the Tamiya stuff. Their paint just works so well. I may not paint the bumpers will paint the grille and roll bar. I looked up those motors but AMain doesn't show them. The stock ones are fine for me as this will just be ran in the basement and displayed. The Clod is such a great truck. I'm gonna add leds for head lamps and maybe some rock lights. Wish Tamiya would have made the rear have light buckets and the roll bar.
Tamiya paint is really good stuff, pricey but really good and consistent. I checked Amain and the pairs of motors are backordered but you can get the singles (same price either way) Part#: BRO-TBR-MONSTERMOTOR23T
I thought about adding lights but since it is just headlights I skipped it for now, I might add them in later. It would be nice to have rear lights as well but would take a lot of surgery to get it done well. I have seen guys light the roll bars but it is a nightmare to try and hide the wiring. Have fun with the build and thanks for watching.
@@AddamsPlayground I still have my 1988 original Clod that is all chrome and I used Kyosho light kits back then. I dremeled out the roll bar lights and drilled small holes and glue the kyosho lenses to the light housing.
@@RC4X4 Oh wow!! Giant bling!!! I have seen the lights down and it does take some time and effort to do them well! I am sure it looks sick with the light bar lit up!!
@@AddamsPlayground I was about 18 then so time was no issue. I need to try and some videos of my collection. I will be posting some on the Vintage Tamiya Club board. I thought about selling it about 12 years ago and the wife said, No! Okay! It would be probably worst mistke. I used to show it and had a pulling Clod with air filled tires and I raced a Big Brute. That was fun. They just don't nothing here where I live.
@@RC4X4 I am lad she kept you from selling it! You would have really regretted that!! She is a smart lady!!! There has never been much around me as far as event and stuff so I have always been an RC loner until I started the channel!!
Stock silver can on 3s is plenty. Not rated for 3s but takes it fine.
For the most part I am fine with the silver can on these but wanted to do something different on this one. I won't lie, I got suckered in with the blue labels on them that look good with the rest of the blue on the truck, it was the deciding factor for getting them! Next time I will go with the Holmes Hobbies retro sport motors in it.
I was thinking at Tamiya factory. The most of us are Tamiya enthusiast even if we know very well that Team Associated, Traxxas, Losi, Shumaker, KYOSHO even Redcat and other are better (technology and materials). This notwithstanding we love Tamiya cars. They comunicate a special feeling of happiness, friendship, warm and safety life. I mean this is what I feel. And the genius in this factory is that success comes duplicating herself. This Clod Buster only with color changed, and may be some little differences to the original, is welcome as a new project. Great! and that's why we love Tamiya. Ciao Nanni
The Tamiya strategy of reusing and riding on popular kits has served them well!!! I mean almost all of their kits have re-used chassis under multiple bodies and names over the years. I am fine with it, I am a sucker for the nostalgia of them and also for when the 're-design' them like this! Toy companies have been doing it for decades. Heck Nikko made thousands of cars all on the same chassis for dozens of companies in the 80s. The great thing about the hobby is you can find almost anything you can imagine to make you happy and suit your needs now and that is super cool! Thanks as always for watching and taking the time to comment Nanni, I always love hearing from you!
@@AddamsPlayground THANK YOU!
Good job enjoyed
Than you, should have a run video of it out very soon!!
Mine just arrived today. Now gotta get servo's and tx. Kinda scared to get it dirty already.
Just take your time figuring out how turn turn it! I went full throttle and almost hit a tree because it did not want to turn!! It takes about a battery pack to really get a good feel for it to turn well and not flip over! It is a really nice build and one you get lost all the nicely machined parts and the way it all works!
Nice and informative video. I was curious with the originally planned motors, if the timing was adjustable? And if so, could you reverse the timing on the motor that would have run backwards so that it was effectively advanced?
Thanks! No, The Sport Tuned motors a re fixed end bell motors. I know it can be done but it is a royal pain and it is never going to be correct so I just swapped them for ones with zero timing to make my life easier!! I will use the Sport Tuned motors in other builds so nothing wasted except time. It is kind of good thing as a lot of folks said they learned something so that was well worth it!
Nice info and good looking clod :) I build me one as well in white color. Using Absima 15T eco stock motors. They dont give much punch. 17km/h is top speed. I have consider change motors to something that it can run in 25km/h but it just feel like this big rig cant handle to much power. Strong yes but I feel this is not ment to handle to much speed or it will brake or loose screws. I think it is best have it in 17km/h and use it for what it is? but happy if i can get some info if I can go up little in speed without risk brake it.
I am kind of surprised it only gets up to 17kph on the 15t motors. I would think they would get it up closer to the 20-25kph zone and that is about as fast as I would want one. Any faster than that they just become weebly-wobbly and out of control in stock form. That and roll-overs are going to quickly beat that body to death! It is hefty chunk to be taking high speed tumbles. They are more fun just cruising around and bumbling over small things and enjoying them for the retro monster trucks it is modeled after. You can go fast and be very agile with the axles, you just have to replace the rest of the truck off of them. Many of the "clod" race trucks are just clod axles and everything else is aftermarket and that can cost a small fortune! The Holmes Hobbies Retro sport motors are a inexpensive way to upgrade it and get a little more oomph out of it. A pair of their 15t motors should get you closer to the 25kph area but still have enough grunt to get it up on the rear wheels.
@@AddamsPlaygroundYes I did try the 15T eco motors from Absima but not close to that speed with 7.2v nimh. But it did get up to 19km/h Clod may hit the 20 mark with 2s lipo. But I`m at the moment building the Agrios 4x4 from Tamiya. 2x sport tuned motors or 13T brushed racing motor and 19T pinion. The thing is the 13T racing from absima are not so crazy with 7.2v nimi but will give a bit more power. But if use 8.4v the 13T racing motor sure give you a good run for the 1.2v extra power. I think the TXT-2 chassi can handle a run 25-35km/h. It have so much metal parts and oil shocks. Update: I did deside try the sport tuned motor first.
At first, I thought would could you of done. Did you put the sticker on backwatds or what forever mistake.. That mistake is a we move these parts to a future build mishap/upgrade no problem mistake.
Yeah it was an oversight on my part by putting the Sport Tuned motors in there and not remembering they had advanced timing. The new ones were easy to swap in and the old ones will certainly get dropped into other builds (one may be getting use already!). We live and we learn, sometimes we forget and have to learn all over again!
I would have just tried it.lots of people run them in clods
I am sure it would have been fine and the front was just going to get more of a workout but I wanted to make this video as I would hate to give someone the wrong impression it is correct. It may not harm anything but it is not the right way to do. I am certainly not saying all I do is the right way, far from it but if I goof up I want to make sure people are aware of it and don't copy my goof up thinking it is the correct way to do it.
So I like the lighter factory grey to be honest and just going to leave mine the way it is like the box art. Also what is wrong with the stock 27 turn silver cans? They are plenty fast for what they are. Nice video and thanks for your time.
I agree the moulded color looks great and it is kind of silly to me they don't match the color to the paint they tell you to paint it! There is nothing wrong with the stock motors but I wanted this one to be a little peppier than my other. Since the sport tuned ones didn't work out I picked up something close to them.
What is it about that clod that look so good? I Need another one lol. Brushed motors are getting hard to find in a ton of options. I'm running stock silver can with a hobby wind 880 on 3s and she gets along great.
I think it just that OG monster truck looks from when we were kids! They are about as true to those original car crushers as they could make it and drives just like them! I think this will be a fun one and one 3s it should go more than fast enough for a truck that is basically the same as it was 35 years ago when it came out!
I do have a CPE chassis I run 3s and I think it's more then fast enough it might even be much for a stock chassis and suspension clod handling wise.
@@madmustangrc214 yeah the stock setup is rather limited but with oil filled shocks it can do really well. The stock friction shocks make it too unpredictable at speed!
No offense, but I must have slept through this one. I put the sport tuned in mine. Lol. Team brood 17 turns on the way! Didn't want that fast but only thing available.
I think the Sport tuned motors would work but it is just not the right way to do and the front is always going to be lugging the rear end around more. The TB motors are cheap enough and work well. the 17T is going to be fun in there but not too terribly fast!!
I did the spin test and it is far enough out of sync that it needs a change.
@@EMPTYPOCKETSRC yeah the rear is we behind and under powered too. The front is pulling a lot harder.
So we’re both the old motors the exact same and if so was it only the fact that they were timed motors and you can’t match them completely that caused the issue? I’m just trying to understand. Much more difficult to process at 7am lol
The stock ones it came with are fine as they are both zero timed motors meaning they are neither advanced nor retarded timing. The Sport Tuned I stuck in there come with fixed advanced timing so the front motor runs in a normal rotation so being advanced timing (ahead of zero) it runs at a higher RPM with a bit more punch than stock. The rear however runs in a reverse rotation (all you do is reverse the positive and negative wires to make it turn in the opposite direction). Running in the reverse rotation means it is now running retarded (below zero) timing meaning it is running slower RPMs and with less punch. This would case the front motor to work even harder as it would be dragging the whole truck around as the back motor is not running as fast or with as much power as the front. The new motors are both set to zero degrees of timing so they will have the same RPM and punch in either direction as both are at zero timing in both directions. Advanced timing is done to move the armature closer to the magnets when that segment it energized. It can both help in getting more power and speed out of the same motor. There is a fine line between adding power and speed and starting to produce negative affects of it. Usually anything between 1 and 12-15 degrees of advanced timing will make it more powerful and more than that can start degrading power. The downfall to advancing the timing going forward is it has the opposite affect on the reverse power as you are weakening the motor and slowing it down when it is trying to spin backwards. Hope that helps
@@AddamsPlayground that did help and now makes much more sense, thank you for the explanation!
@@matthewtavik anytime!!
How are the motors working for you still? I’m thinking of buying the same motors.
I have only run it a couple times but I like them. They are peppier than the stock motors for sure and nice and torquey. You could go down to the 19t motors and get some more speed. I didn't want to go too much faster than that as I wanted to keep it in good shape! I was hoping to get some snow to go out and play in with it but we have gotten about 73 snow flakes so far this whole season! You can also get the Holmes Hobbies Retro Sport motors as they are zero timed as well. They have a 21t and 19t that would be a good fit.
If you use the box stock motors will it have this same issue?
No the stock motors have 0 degree timing so they run the same speed in either direction. I have found the best ones to use as upgrades is probably the Holmes Hobbies Retro Sport series as they are all 0degree timing as well and are available in 15t, 17t, 19t and 21t winds so you can speed it up a little or a lot with them and they are inexpensive.
@@AddamsPlayground You're the best. Thank you.
@@TheHudsonValleyWanderer no problem at all
You're always messing up haha jk. Badass looking truck.
I do it just to share with everyone the pitfalls of building these vehicles!! LOL!!! I am not an easily distracted and forget person with to many thing going on all the time... it is just learning lessons!! LOL
@@AddamsPlayground I prefer to show only a fraction of mine lol
You could have done homes hobby motors 21 turns.
Yeah, I got suckered into the copper brush hoods and pretty blue label of the Team Brood motors LOL
Where can I get them and what's the part number please?
You can get them at Amain Hobbies and the part numbers for the ones I got was BRO-TBR-MTM23TPAIR. If you go to Amin and search for Clod motor they will all show up.
@Addam's Playground thank you!!! Getting ready to build the gray edition after the new year. Already built a old school Clod buster back about 87. Wish I still had that one. Thanks for the help!!
@@jimmyflinchum5767 Yeah, I think many of us had some really cool ones back in the day that we let go and wish we had back! They grey edition looks really cool and those motors look good under it as well!! Have fun with the build!
@@AddamsPlayground hopefully I can send some pictures to you during the build.
@@jimmyflinchum5767 that would be cool!!!
Do you wanna buy one?
Feel free to send me an email, you can find it in the about section of my main page. I will say I doubt it as with all the new kits coming out this year the budget is pretty strapped.