Two things: 1. It's impressive how fast Indycars are for a fraction of the cost of F1. 2. Faster lap times does not necessarily make for good racing. -Higher cornering speeds means greater aero dependence, which means cars can't follow closely. -Short braking distances look spectacular but it's very hard even to gain one metre under braking. -F1 overtaking is largely dependent on DRS. Let F1 be F1 and let Indycar be Indycar.
Yeah, Formula 1 car could go way faster if there were no restrictions. Thats why some of the track records in F1 are still from year 2005 even though the costs of the F1 has gone up from that.
@HashySlash reply when you have proper arguments. You just compared an endurance car to an F1 car. And a prototype is not faster than an F1 car. Porsche removed all WEC regulations to make it faster. Did you consider what an F1 car would be like without FIA regulations? 😂
I couldn't care less about lap times, it's a tire test. Everybody knows F1 cars are faster, so why does it matter anyway. I like racing of all kinds... give me race cars on a track and I'm watching.
Actually Indycar's have higher top speed (240+mph) than F1(230mpg), but F1 cars are quicker in acceleration. Both series cars are capable of even higher top speeds but these are average race tune speeds, to preserve the engines. We tend to think of F1 being outright faster because of their high reving exhaust note.
Man they stripped that place clean of any sponsorships, promotional banners, etc. Just 10 days after USGP you would expect there to be a FIAT banner or something left.
IndyCars will be fun at this track. F1 cars are so glued to the track they look like a Sunday drive even when pushing. IndyCar has corrections and power slides and drivers fighting to control their cars like race drivers should!!
@@racergavino7274 yes it is, engine and tyre saving. It would be better if they gone cruising rather than pushing and try to close the gap (or even overtaking and defending). Midfield teams tend to give away position to the best cars without even trying to defend. And most of the drive don't give their qualifying pace in race time.
Naturally all the keyboard warriors are going to compare a rather relaxed tire test on a cold track with cold tires to the Mercedes F-1 qualifying time pace.
Outright Circuit record F1 1:32.237 Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+ 2018 United States Grand Prix F1 1:37.392 Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+ 2016 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas LMP1 1:47.052 Audi R18 e-tron quattro 2013 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas LMP2 1:54.559 Oreca 03 2013 Grand-Am of The Americas DP 2:00.026 Corvette 2013 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas LM GTE 2:03.520 Ferrari 458 Italia 2014 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas MotoGP 2:03.575 Honda 2018 NASA Cinco de COTA Super Unlimited 2:06.834 Davidson Racing BMW Norma 2017 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas Moto2 2:09.948 Kalex 2017 Trans-Am series GT1 2:10.328 Ford Mustang 2017 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas Moto3 2:15.583 Honda 2017 MotoAmerica Superbike/Superstock Superbike 2:09.173 Yamaha 2013 Austin 400† V8 Supercar 1:33.5951 Holden VF Commodore 2015 Formula Sun Grand Prix Solar EV 4:30.444 Iowa State University Phaeton Road legal production car Production car 2:11:30[58] NIO EP9 2017 Autonomous Electric Car EV 2:40:33[59] NIO EP9
Интересно где расположена камера. Понятно что на шлеме, но именно в каком месте. И на сколько близко эта камера передаёт взгляд пилота из кокпита. Давно видел какую то трансляцию Инди, дак там камера была расположена за стеклом (визиром) шлема, по центру у верхнего края.
IndyCar on F1's newest circuit. would be cool if the track layout remains the same, in that way we could get lap time comparisons between the two series.
These visor cams are fantastic. That being said, how the audio is captured with the roll hoop view needs to be synced with this. The current sound is not so great. But thank you for the vid.
If it wasn't a problem with the mic and they lowered the audio of the video before uploading it because of the wind noise, we have volume control for that.
Indy Cars are built to go 255+ mph on the straights at Indy and to average 235+ mph over four laps of qualifying at Indy. The street circuit and road course performance was secondary to Dallara and Indy.
@@johnstratos9336 oof lol, IndyCars have no comforting because performance, so all the vibration is sent into him. Also, the camera isn't at 60 fps which would have made this _so_ much better.
IndyCar uses a mix of high speed oval courses, street circuits, and road race courses. There are also many more lead changes during an IndyCar Race as compared to a Formula 1 race. In case you haven't noticed - Formula 1 has become predictable and boring. F1 admits it and so do the drivers.
FE looks great though. I love how limited they are on power. Adds a ton of strategy and overtaking opportunities. Idk why they go rid of the car swap though. It was a mandatory pit stop. People seemed to hate it for literally no reason at all. It was nothing but good for the race. Imagine F1 or Indycar without pit stops.
Nothing new that the F1 cars are faster over a lap. However, one of the Andretti engineers commented about how slow the track actually is. Unofficiallly, there was a best lap of 1:47.8, and they did say they expected to be 2 seconds quicker right off coming back for the event. So if you knock another second or so off, maybe they do a 1:45.0 or thereabouts. For reference, the fastest WEC LMP1 lap in Qualifying was a 1:44.656 set last year. Austin will be ~30 mph slower in average lap speed than Watkins Glen, a track of about the same length; that tells you something about the relative number of high-speed corners between the two. I pretty much expect Austin to be the slowest permanent road course of the 2019 IndyCar season. My main concern though is the racing, and how much of a physical spread between the cars you are going to get coming off all of those slow corners. There's quite a bit of the lap that's likely to be single-file, too. Now, hopefully the flat-out sections will be long enough for the drivers to work with effectively, but I'm not exactly holding my breath on it. You shouldn't have other issues to the extent that you absolutely need a 1,207-meter-long straight to promote overtaking.
Robert Pfeiffer I don’t get your logic, most of what you are talking about doesn’t matter. This track have many overtaking spots and the back stretch will be a great passing spot because of puck to pass
@@bhjvkvkvjuvujgkv7375 The track, in theory, has 3 conventional overtaking points: Turns 1, 11, and 12. But, for instance, when looking at a track like Road America, the 3 main "straights" there are preceded by faster corners than is the case at Austin. The consequence is that the physical gap between the cars increases much more at Austin on the early part of the straight, and thus you need more straight to allow the trailing car to make that back up with a better corner exit and/or the slipstream down the straight. Conversely, at Road America, guys are often setting up maneuvers while still only halfway down the run to Turn 1, 5, or Canada Corner. Now, maybe you can outbrave somebody heading into Turn 3, but I wouldn't just count on it. And Turns 3-9 are basically single-file. The middle of the stadium is pretty much follow-the-leader as well. And that long right-hander (Turns 16-18), generally seems to be single-line also. We saw Verstappen get penalized last year for cutting the middle apex, which is about the only way to stay two-wide, and Hamilton simply couldn't hold the outside line there this year. Even in the WEC, an Audi LMP1 trying to lap a Ford GT GTE-class car couldn't quite make the outside work there, made contact, and went into the barriers. Some things will definitely depend on how stringent IndyCar is in enforcing track limits at Austin.
@@Villoresi the stadium is anything but single file. It consistently produces side by side racing from t12 to 17 every year. When I first saw the layout of the track that part looked disgusting, it has won me over.
@@37nezy You can take multiple lines, but actual overtakes are much rarer. I'm also generally not in favor of sections that seem to encourage spear-jobs. In any case, that's going to come down to my final sentence; basically, IndyCar will have to look the other way on track limits, because otherwise, nothing can happen there. No, the passes that do happen in there don't really excite me that much because the lack of practical track limits and context takes away almost all of the consequence and makes it like a parking lot, whether a pass comes off or not is too predictable on the approach to the last corner of the sequence, and it's a low-speed section.
With Indycar I think the over take options will be much better than f1 especially with the fact that they can use push to pass anywhere on the track unlike f1. Will it be slower, of course but usually leads to better racing. Should be interesting watching fp1, I expect a lot of drivers not part of tire testing will have issues with the lack of grip in the track surface.
Cost difference between F1 and Indy is big but wow, you can tell the quality difference too. You don't see F1 cars bouncing around like this and drivers fighting the car like crazy.
Indycars with no wing config in Indy 500, so no drag from wings, no downforce, max speed 380Km/h. (tinyurl.com/ycu2w3yb see image, no angle in wings) / F1 cars with downforce config for Mexico, (just picking one track) wings set in considerable angle, max speed on a non-infinity straight 370Km/h. (tinyurl.com/y7h82akr image, huge angle on wings). Clearly F1 has the edge (by far) on top speed.
It's a shame Alonso pissed off Honda causing him to lose the chance to getting a ride in Indycars. I/we would have loved to see him doing the first, or ant test at COTA considering he's driven there in Formula One. He would have given a great comparison between F1 and Indy chassis.
IndyCar uses a mix of high speed oval courses, street circuits, and road race courses. There are also many more lead changes during an IndyCar Race as compared to a Formula 1 race. In case you haven't noticed - Formula 1 has become predictable and boring. F1 admits it and so do the drivers.
Whole point is to experience the drive as the driver does.. if you stabilize it then you would never see how bumpy the track is.. thus why you never notice it with f1 onboard views.
It's actually very challenging to drive. Mess up one turn and you're boned for the next 2-4. There isn't much elevation change but the camber moves around in a few places to mess with grip levels.
This is only testing, though... I believe the gap can be around 10 sec. Still, I also expected a shorter gap, something between 5-7 secs... let's wait and see what the official event will bring us :)
That's a test lap on the hardest compound tires. Wait until the Fast Six are all on reds, since F1 makes up a lot of time with super soft tire compounds.
Uhm, yes? F2 (not only F1) are faster than this, so for Europeans Indycar is a sort of a joke when we see it, get over it guys. You can say whatever you want because you like indycar but as I previously said: I stated a fact. Check this: ruclips.net/video/QLXdxyJJrhY/видео.html
Bug from Statefarm that’s all right, at a certain point with that amount of money around it the sport loses all its magic and here we can all agree I think, I enjoy more F2 for the same reason so yeah I totally got your point!
@@anakinGTI Chill out! I'm a huge fan of F1 and I see no problem in Indycar being slower. I'm pretty sure they could change regulations to make cars faster without increasing the costs too much, but that's not what Indycar wants to deliver. They made regs pretty much around the quality of racing. The truth is, Indycar produces lots of overtaking moments in circuits where it would be almost impossible to overtake in F1... for me that's totally fine and I see no point in trying to compare F1 and Indy...
I think part of it is the camera. A lot of the onboards that Indycar posts are from nonbroadcast cameras like a GoPro, and they usually have a really wide perspective. Things seems to crawl by in the periphery, but if you watch the same onboard from a normal rollhoop camera during a race broadcast, things always look faster to me.
@@panda2907 For sure. I can't tell if this is one of those lipstick cameras that the teams sometimes use or the actual helmet cam ABC/NBC used this year.
Looks.....exciting. F1 cars are so glued to the track they look like a Sunday drive even when pushing. IndyCar has corrections and power slides and drivers fighting to control their cars like race drivers should!!
F2 only has 620 bhp in their current formula and less downforce than an IndyCar. On the road course IndyCar engines are tuned to 740 bhp with 790 bhp this past year when overtake is pressed. This is a tire test with the slowest tire compound at a brand new track...
Crazy Videos Sure, the lap times are well off of Formula 1 pace, but look at how that car is dancing through every corner. Modern Formula 1 cars are on rails - no drama, no commitment.
they went to great care not to show a complete hot lap. he lifts during each lap in various places. they dont want you comparing F1 laptimes to indycar. it would be embarassing for indy car!!
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Can’t wait to see Indy next year here 👍
Im going too ill be in the turn 1 or turn 11 General admission so ill be in the grass. I think i want to do turn 1 though
Two things:
1. It's impressive how fast Indycars are for a fraction of the cost of F1.
2. Faster lap times does not necessarily make for good racing.
-Higher cornering speeds means greater aero dependence, which means cars can't follow closely.
-Short braking distances look spectacular but it's very hard even to gain one metre under braking.
-F1 overtaking is largely dependent on DRS.
Let F1 be F1 and let Indycar be Indycar.
Yes but to get that bit faster you need to spend money. F1 is as fast a car can go with regulations in place. It's the pinnacle.
Yeah, Formula 1 car could go way faster if there were no restrictions. Thats why some of the track records in F1 are still from year 2005 even though the costs of the F1 has gone up from that.
and no halo
@HashySlash reply when you have proper arguments. You just compared an endurance car to an F1 car. And a prototype is not faster than an F1 car. Porsche removed all WEC regulations to make it faster. Did you consider what an F1 car would be like without FIA regulations? 😂
Thank you Tony. Thank you Indy Car.
Secundra Beasley thanks for the only worthy comment!
1:12 Looks like F1 forgot to take out one of the "Verstoppers."
Adam Advocaat bahaha, indidnt even notice at first
Actually there are 2. Look during the next lap.
The Firestone sign on tyres are hypnotizing
I couldn't care less about lap times, it's a tire test. Everybody knows F1 cars are faster, so why does it matter anyway. I like racing of all kinds... give me race cars on a track and I'm watching.
It's just interesting to know the difference in lap time of a $10M F1 car vs. a $400,000 indycar
@@TaylerBurke Yes, I understand the curiosity, but still it is just a test session. We will get the answer next year.
F1 also have like 500 more HP so it’s pretty miraculous that the times are still somewhat close.
Actually Indycar's have higher top speed (240+mph) than F1(230mpg), but F1 cars are quicker in acceleration. Both series cars are capable of even higher top speeds but these are average race tune speeds, to preserve the engines. We tend to think of F1 being outright faster because of their high reving exhaust note.
Faster around a track. In oval config the Indycars would smoke F1.
Man they stripped that place clean of any sponsorships, promotional banners, etc. Just 10 days after USGP you would expect there to be a FIAT banner or something left.
Literally, zero. I was there for the F1 race but I wouldn’t believe anyone if they told me they had an F1 even the past weekend there.
There weren't any sponsors there the weeks before F1 either, I was at the last event before F1. Those are F1 specific sponsors apparently.
If you stay there after the F1 race you will literally see them taking down the banners off the pedestrian bridges and just laying on the track
In Montreal, after the race everybody walked the track and I managed to steal a drs sign
@@benlyda9781 Hahaha I'm into it
As imagens ficaram ótimas. Definição perfeita, inclusive dos retrovisores.
Vai dar um sucesso!
Up yours Eddie, we've finally got IndyCar at COTA. Should have been there in 2013.
Awesome! Tony Kanaan, one of the greats
IndyCars will be fun at this track. F1 cars are so glued to the track they look like a Sunday drive even when pushing. IndyCar has corrections and power slides and drivers fighting to control their cars like race drivers should!!
Any FORMULA 1 driver will tell you it’s no Sunday drive.
I agree, more power less downforce I always say! CANAM - that was racing.
hitmaneoin Indycars don’t have power steering. It’s a lot more ‘pure’ you could say.
@@racergavino7274 yes it is, engine and tyre saving. It would be better if they gone cruising rather than pushing and try to close the gap (or even overtaking and defending). Midfield teams tend to give away position to the best cars without even trying to defend. And most of the drive don't give their qualifying pace in race time.
ruclips.net/video/AI3JzYCL3K0/видео.html Do you not see any correction here...?
Good to see them coming here!
Naturally all the keyboard warriors are going to compare a rather relaxed tire test on a cold track with cold tires to the Mercedes F-1 qualifying time pace.
They are also comparing a car designed to not kill you if you hit a wall at 230mph, to a car that is .... not.
Because IndyCar keyboard warriors are also comparing it to F1.
It isn't the car that kills you, it is the catch fence. Blame the fatalities on dangerous ovals vs safety designed F1 courses.
The indycar is probably 5-6 seconds slower than f1
Yeah because Indy cars are way faster than f1 cars.
Do f1 cars go over 200mph lol
Indy on that track going to be great!I loved The câmera,it feels be on there in that car!Congratulations Tony obrigado por ser orgulho do brasil!
Simply awesome!
Tony, o bom baiano. Bom de roda. Esse é ninja
awesome! Indycar will put on a great show here,what a wonderful track!
Gawd, I love that track!
Awesome camera view!
Thank God this circuit is on next years calendar. World class.
I really hope kanaan has a bounce back season this year !
I am waiting for this particular race . I just want to compare an indycar race to a f1 race.
Indy laptimes are probably more comparable to what an F2 car would do
IndyCar 725Kg / 550-700bhp depending on boost used
F2 720Kg / 620bhp
According to this lap this new indycar is rather close to GP3
Outright Circuit record F1 1:32.237 Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+
2018 United States Grand Prix F1 1:37.392 Mercedes AMG F1 W09 EQ Power+
2016 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas LMP1 1:47.052 Audi R18 e-tron quattro
2013 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas LMP2 1:54.559 Oreca 03
2013 Grand-Am of The Americas DP 2:00.026 Corvette
2013 6 Hours of Circuit of the Americas LM GTE 2:03.520 Ferrari 458 Italia
2014 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas MotoGP 2:03.575 Honda
2018 NASA Cinco de COTA Super Unlimited 2:06.834 Davidson Racing BMW Norma
2017 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas Moto2 2:09.948 Kalex
2017 Trans-Am series GT1 2:10.328 Ford Mustang
2017 Motorcycle Grand Prix of the Americas Moto3 2:15.583 Honda
2017 MotoAmerica Superbike/Superstock Superbike 2:09.173 Yamaha
2013 Austin 400† V8 Supercar 1:33.5951 Holden VF Commodore
2015 Formula Sun Grand Prix Solar EV 4:30.444 Iowa State University Phaeton
Road legal production car Production car 2:11:30[58] NIO EP9
2017 Autonomous Electric Car EV 2:40:33[59] NIO EP9
Over 1 lap, the Indycar being about 5-6 seconds slower wouldn't be a bad estimate considering the fact TK isn't really pushing in this video
According to this lap they are 30s slower. If the difference will be under 20 sec it would be a great thing
Looks cool. Real circuit! 👍
About time they get to race there
That was a PERFECT t1 on the second lap
Project Cars 2 looks awesome
It really is a great track for open wheel cars. Hope indycar puts it on the calendar
Fantastic circuit
As F1 fan this looks more fun to watch.
Интересно где расположена камера. Понятно что на шлеме, но именно в каком месте. И на сколько близко эта камера передаёт взгляд пилота из кокпита.
Давно видел какую то трансляцию Инди, дак там камера была расположена за стеклом (визиром) шлема, по центру у верхнего края.
IndyCar on F1's newest circuit. would be cool if the track layout remains the same, in that way we could get lap time comparisons between the two series.
These visor cams are fantastic. That being said, how the audio is captured with the roll hoop view needs to be synced with this. The current sound is not so great. But thank you for the vid.
@formula1 It would be nice to have such a camera onboard for the next season.
Circuit is used for MotoGP and F1 - might as well use it for Indycar as well. At least it’s a proper circuit unlike say those narrow street circuits.
It's already in the 2019 calendar
F1 clasic style drive
If it wasn't a problem with the mic and they lowered the audio of the video before uploading it because of the wind noise, we have volume control for that.
Indy Cars are built to go 255+ mph on the straights at Indy and to average 235+ mph over four laps of qualifying at Indy. The street circuit and road course performance was secondary to Dallara and Indy.
255+ were last done nearly 20 years ago. Today's Indycars are much slower.
A bad day of racing is better then a good day of fishing.
Boodew 55 55 As long as you don’t have to foot the bill for a bad day of racing lol
What track on the IndyCar schedule would be most similar to COTA?
Anyone know what is the name of the that visual effect on wheels words? That It seem It stop when car acelerate?
I like reading indycar fan's comments being jealous of F1's speed on this track :D
Is it just me or has Papyrus downgraded to 30FPS in their video? If so, wow. You'd think they'd show off COTA better than this.
you do understand that nobody will understand your joke , right? :)
fire...
Wow that track is so rough, how did it get so bad so quick, it’s less than 10 years old
It's always been like that.
Esse Tony Kannan ama uma cachaça 😁🇧🇷
it would be great if the haas f1 team was allowed to run in the indycar event at cota, even if it was just a 'provisional' appearance, jmho.
This really gives a great perspective on how bumpy the track is. The Formula 1 cars don't bounce around like this on the onboards.
Cause they use stabilisation.
@@johnstratos9336 - And this camera is attached to Tony's helmet, not the roll hoop. ;-)
@@johnstratos9336 stability control is banned
Banned from tha cameras as well?
@@johnstratos9336 oof lol, IndyCars have no comforting because performance, so all the vibration is sent into him. Also, the camera isn't at 60 fps which would have made this _so_ much better.
These cars seem to be a real handful driving them. Doesn’t want to turn in and the oversteer on way out.
Just wrestling at wheel.
Nice vid. Now can you upload it at normal speed??
Gp2 baby
Measuring this against F1 is as silly as measuring an F1 lap around an oval.
Nx Doyle It’s the indycars fans the introducers of the argument, not the f1 fans
Of hour Jow !
Where's the car sound?
I wish Indycar would ditch about 80% of the oval tracks and have more of these.
Cant go wrong with testing in austin :)
Verstoppers still there.
How do the indycar car laptimes compare to the f1 times, obviously slower but by how much
IndyCar uses a mix of high speed oval courses, street circuits, and road race courses. There are also many more lead changes during an IndyCar Race as compared to a Formula 1 race. In case you haven't noticed - Formula 1 has become predictable and boring. F1 admits it and so do the drivers.
FE looks great though. I love how limited they are on power. Adds a ton of strategy and overtaking opportunities. Idk why they go rid of the car swap though. It was a mandatory pit stop. People seemed to hate it for literally no reason at all. It was nothing but good for the race. Imagine F1 or Indycar without pit stops.
15 seconds
That is some toe!
Nothing new that the F1 cars are faster over a lap.
However, one of the Andretti engineers commented about how slow the track actually is. Unofficiallly, there was a best lap of 1:47.8, and they did say they expected to be 2 seconds quicker right off coming back for the event. So if you knock another second or so off, maybe they do a 1:45.0 or thereabouts. For reference, the fastest WEC LMP1 lap in Qualifying was a 1:44.656 set last year.
Austin will be ~30 mph slower in average lap speed than Watkins Glen, a track of about the same length; that tells you something about the relative number of high-speed corners between the two. I pretty much expect Austin to be the slowest permanent road course of the 2019 IndyCar season.
My main concern though is the racing, and how much of a physical spread between the cars you are going to get coming off all of those slow corners. There's quite a bit of the lap that's likely to be single-file, too. Now, hopefully the flat-out sections will be long enough for the drivers to work with effectively, but I'm not exactly holding my breath on it. You shouldn't have other issues to the extent that you absolutely need a 1,207-meter-long straight to promote overtaking.
Robert Pfeiffer I don’t get your logic, most of what you are talking about doesn’t matter. This track have many overtaking spots and the back stretch will be a great passing spot because of puck to pass
@@bhjvkvkvjuvujgkv7375 The track, in theory, has 3 conventional overtaking points: Turns 1, 11, and 12. But, for instance, when looking at a track like Road America, the 3 main "straights" there are preceded by faster corners than is the case at Austin. The consequence is that the physical gap between the cars increases much more at Austin on the early part of the straight, and thus you need more straight to allow the trailing car to make that back up with a better corner exit and/or the slipstream down the straight. Conversely, at Road America, guys are often setting up maneuvers while still only halfway down the run to Turn 1, 5, or Canada Corner.
Now, maybe you can outbrave somebody heading into Turn 3, but I wouldn't just count on it. And Turns 3-9 are basically single-file. The middle of the stadium is pretty much follow-the-leader as well. And that long right-hander (Turns 16-18), generally seems to be single-line also. We saw Verstappen get penalized last year for cutting the middle apex, which is about the only way to stay two-wide, and Hamilton simply couldn't hold the outside line there this year. Even in the WEC, an Audi LMP1 trying to lap a Ford GT GTE-class car couldn't quite make the outside work there, made contact, and went into the barriers.
Some things will definitely depend on how stringent IndyCar is in enforcing track limits at Austin.
@@Villoresi the stadium is anything but single file. It consistently produces side by side racing from t12 to 17 every year. When I first saw the layout of the track that part looked disgusting, it has won me over.
@@37nezy You can take multiple lines, but actual overtakes are much rarer. I'm also generally not in favor of sections that seem to encourage spear-jobs. In any case, that's going to come down to my final sentence; basically, IndyCar will have to look the other way on track limits, because otherwise, nothing can happen there.
No, the passes that do happen in there don't really excite me that much because the lack of practical track limits and context takes away almost all of the consequence and makes it like a parking lot, whether a pass comes off or not is too predictable on the approach to the last corner of the sequence, and it's a low-speed section.
With Indycar I think the over take options will be much better than f1 especially with the fact that they can use push to pass anywhere on the track unlike f1. Will it be slower, of course but usually leads to better racing. Should be interesting watching fp1, I expect a lot of drivers not part of tire testing will have issues with the lack of grip in the track surface.
What's the lap times compared to f1??
freedumb labowski rumor says 10-15 seconds off pace.
Rathet 25-30
15 seconds...1 min 32 compared to 1 min 47
Cost difference between F1 and Indy is big but wow, you can tell the quality difference too. You don't see F1 cars bouncing around like this and drivers fighting the car like crazy.
What is the lap time compared to a F1 ???
2018 US gran prix fastest lap was 1:37.392 (set by Hamilton)
@@tommikivimaki3066 ok, and fastest laptime of an indy car ??
we will see in 2019
0:21 1x incident
Indycars with no wing config in Indy 500, so no drag from wings, no downforce, max speed 380Km/h. (tinyurl.com/ycu2w3yb see image, no angle in wings) / F1 cars with downforce config for Mexico, (just picking one track) wings set in considerable angle, max speed on a non-infinity straight 370Km/h. (tinyurl.com/y7h82akr image, huge angle on wings). Clearly F1 has the edge (by far) on top speed.
La Formule 1 du pauvre...
1 down vote? It's gotta be Eddie Gossage
It's a shame Alonso pissed off Honda causing him to lose the chance to getting a ride in Indycars. I/we would have loved to see him doing the first, or ant test at COTA considering he's driven there in Formula One. He would have given a great comparison between F1 and Indy chassis.
No issues exceeding track limits lol
Car looks really unstable under throttle.
Finally i dont see any HALO god bless indycar
Rossi's fastest lap was about 10 seconds slower than F1 a couple weeks ago.
These cars are built to go 255 mph on the straights and to average 235 mph + over four laps at Indy. Apples to Oranges comparison.
Why is he fighting the wheel so much
So there should be a friendly race between indy car and formula one live . Not on simulation. 👍
I know this track was built for F1 but Indycar here would actually be even better. At least better than that Indy infield yeesh!!
IndyCar uses a mix of high speed oval courses, street circuits, and road race courses. There are also many more lead changes during an IndyCar Race as compared to a Formula 1 race. In case you haven't noticed - Formula 1 has become predictable and boring. F1 admits it and so do the drivers.
Needs a stabiliser like on the GoPro 7.
Whole point is to experience the drive as the driver does.. if you stabilize it then you would never see how bumpy the track is.. thus why you never notice it with f1 onboard views.
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How much slower than F1?
15 seconds
Hand me the brown pants please...
Tomou 15 segundos do F1....kkkkkkk
Slower but way more intense than F1
The best resolution you can do is 720p? Are you stuck in the 2000's? Don't tell me you can't find a visor cam can shoot in at least 1080p60fps.
No tylke no 😢
idc what anyone says you gotta give iRacing credit for how they got this track on their sim.. F1 2018 is a pathetic joke compared to it
Would be a great track without the ugly and stupid colorful adhesive strips lining the track.
Another cookie-cutter circuit, complete with lots of paint to mark the corners. Brilliant.
Agreed, pretty boring actually and I love Indy Car. The curbs mean nothing and you just straighten it out and drive right over them.
Yeah ik where’s Monaco 🇲🇨 when you need it
It's actually very challenging to drive. Mess up one turn and you're boned for the next 2-4. There isn't much elevation change but the camber moves around in a few places to mess with grip levels.
This track is unique and well made in my opinion
classic hersh agreed, it actually takes corners from different permanent circuits, no track like it.
TK's driving style bugs me
I expected Indycar to be slower than F1, but not by 15 seconds! Besides, it is definitely slower than LMP1! So sad...
This is only testing, though... I believe the gap can be around 10 sec. Still, I also expected a shorter gap, something between 5-7 secs... let's wait and see what the official event will bring us :)
That's a test lap on the hardest compound tires. Wait until the Fast Six are all on reds, since F1 makes up a lot of time with super soft tire compounds.
He’s so slow. This is embarrassing compared to the slowest F1 teams. Seems like F2 is faster to me...
It's a freaking tire test. It's a cold track with cold tires with a driver taking it easy.
Check free practice 1 of F1 this year: cold track, tyres tests, fuel tests and still faster than this guy. Mine isn’t an opinion, I stated a fact
Uhm, yes? F2 (not only F1) are faster than this, so for Europeans Indycar is a sort of a joke when we see it, get over it guys. You can say whatever you want because you like indycar but as I previously said: I stated a fact.
Check this: ruclips.net/video/QLXdxyJJrhY/видео.html
Bug from Statefarm that’s all right, at a certain point with that amount of money around it the sport loses all its magic and here we can all agree I think, I enjoy more F2 for the same reason so yeah I totally got your point!
@@anakinGTI Chill out! I'm a huge fan of F1 and I see no problem in Indycar being slower. I'm pretty sure they could change regulations to make cars faster without increasing the costs too much, but that's not what Indycar wants to deliver. They made regs pretty much around the quality of racing. The truth is, Indycar produces lots of overtaking moments in circuits where it would be almost impossible to overtake in F1... for me that's totally fine and I see no point in trying to compare F1 and Indy...
I hate this track, its boring !
Okay ! People are different !
Looks... slow...
Carlos A. Lizarraga R. Anything but
I think part of it is the camera. A lot of the onboards that Indycar posts are from nonbroadcast cameras like a GoPro, and they usually have a really wide perspective. Things seems to crawl by in the periphery, but if you watch the same onboard from a normal rollhoop camera during a race broadcast, things always look faster to me.
@@railfan220 I thought so too. I know these cars are fast, but this camera is not helping... looks like a helmet cam, if i´m not mistaken.
@@panda2907 For sure. I can't tell if this is one of those lipstick cameras that the teams sometimes use or the actual helmet cam ABC/NBC used this year.
Looks.....exciting. F1 cars are so glued to the track they look like a Sunday drive even when pushing. IndyCar has corrections and power slides and drivers fighting to control their cars like race drivers should!!
Until a gp2 f1 car is faster than this trashes
F1. Cars are NOT FASTER in the long run. HONESTLY
Think even F3 cars are faster. GP2/F2 and F1 smash these cars.
It's a tyre test mate
F2 only has 620 bhp in their current formula and less downforce than an IndyCar. On the road course IndyCar engines are tuned to 740 bhp with 790 bhp this past year when overtake is pressed. This is a tire test with the slowest tire compound at a brand new track...
Wow that's slow
Crazy Videos Sure, the lap times are well off of Formula 1 pace, but look at how that car is dancing through every corner. Modern Formula 1 cars are on rails - no drama, no commitment.
Keep in mind that that was the first test and they could have been taking it easier.f1 will still be faster though
He's lifting, coasting, etc.
there's no point being on the limit at the minute
they went to great care not to show a complete hot lap. he lifts during each lap in various places. they dont want you comparing F1 laptimes to indycar. it would be embarassing for indy car!!
IndyCar isn't F1 and doesn't even try to be so....
Just like F1´s racing is embarrassing to Indycar´s.
At least indy cars don't sound like a hoover vaccum cleaner.
That’s not the point, an Indycar isn’t supposed to be as fast as an F1 car.
Embarrassing only for those fans that have an inferiority complex.