Kreia: Quiet Thing

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  • Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024

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  • @cinamynj
    @cinamynj 3 года назад +556

    Yes kreia's story is amazing but what is even more amazing... Her voice, man. The way her words shake and hit your core. She has this charisma you're drawn to. You want to listen to her monologues.
    One of the best voice acting ever 😌

    • @hervemasson7586
      @hervemasson7586 3 года назад +20

      In french version as well she is amazingly voiced.
      In english they searched a long Time if I remember well. It end up with a relative unknown theater women, and she was Amazing, I agree, the whole experience is in a big part thanks To her.

    • @hervemasson7586
      @hervemasson7586 3 года назад +11

      Sara kestellman

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  3 года назад +24

      They certainly picked the perfect person to voice her in the English version. Sara Kestelman is wonderful!

    • @hervemasson7586
      @hervemasson7586 3 года назад +3

      @@rayvar_lothson43345 Better spelled than me, I'm sorry for the mistakes ! Very nice vidéo by the way. I truly love it. It make me remember that we love to be told story by good storyteller, like when we are child.

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  3 года назад +3

      Don’t be sorry, your English is fine! Kestelman can be confused with a few different words and you got nearly all of it correct so it’s nothing to worry or apologize for. :)
      And thank you for your kind words!

  • @badluckrabbit
    @badluckrabbit 3 года назад +514

    There is something even more essential to Star Wars than science fiction and fantasy. Tragedy

    • @ROFLGunship
      @ROFLGunship 3 года назад +24

      Our universe you could say is the force that flows through us. It may sound like some hippie shit but reading between the lines can maybe help you connect. Star Wars is a beautiful thing... :’)

    • @snowtorious8015
      @snowtorious8015 3 года назад +4

      Trust it’s a sci fi soap opera Lol

    • @sterd1149
      @sterd1149 3 года назад +4

      @Jabari Collin That's more than a little fucked up mate, privacy and all that good jazz.

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  3 года назад +6

      They’re bots.

    • @sterd1149
      @sterd1149 3 года назад +5

      @@rayvar_lothson43345 Ah, makes sense.

  • @marbles7177
    @marbles7177 4 года назад +234

    To be united by hatred is a fragile alliance at best

    • @JimmySpace69
      @JimmySpace69 Год назад +4

      But my will was not law..... There were disagreements. Ambitions.

  • @Докторпарадокс
    @Докторпарадокс 3 года назад +77

    First KOTOR was like a power fantasy
    But second was existential nightmare absolutely beautiful

  • @brickzebra8369
    @brickzebra8369 4 года назад +279

    Kreia understand the force better than anyone

    • @CHANN3L_NAME
      @CHANN3L_NAME 3 года назад +9

      Yes I did

    • @Thebrainwashedturtle
      @Thebrainwashedturtle 3 года назад

      Malguss perspective is more close to me...

    • @lordoffaiyum9727
      @lordoffaiyum9727 3 года назад +2

      Darth Bane did.

    • @CHANN3L_NAME
      @CHANN3L_NAME 3 года назад

      @@Thebrainwashedturtle malgus?

    • @Алексей-з8ы3ь
      @Алексей-з8ы3ь 3 года назад +13

      @@CHANN3L_NAME “The Jedi understand the Force only partially. Some of them are even powerful in its use. But they fail to comprehend the fundamental nature of the Force, that it is conflict. That a light side and a dark side exist is proof of this.”
      Malgus

  • @plgrn8r683
    @plgrn8r683 3 года назад +357

    As Jedi Master Arren Kae, she trained her greatest pupil, who would one day go on to become one of the most infamous Sith Lords in history. This, some would say, was a failure.
    As Darth Traya, Sith Lord of Betrayal, she failed to foresee or prevent her own betrayal at the hands of her two apprentices-Darths Sion and Nihilus. This, some would say, was a failure.
    As Kreia, an aged and wise Force user wandering the galaxy, she mentored a Jedi exile who, under her care, regained a lost connection to the Force, would go on to surpass the surviving Jedi Masters, defeated her former apprentices in battles of both might and will, trained a new generation of Lost Jedi, surpass and defeat herself as Darth Traya once more, silence the Force echo of Malachor V that threatened to destroy all life, and, at last, to follow the footsteps of Revan into the Unknown Regions, when all else failed to do so.
    This, none could say, was a failure.

    • @micanikko
      @micanikko 3 года назад +30

      Thats poetic as fuck. That is amazing.

    • @josephjohnson-chavez4983
      @josephjohnson-chavez4983 3 года назад +21

      I think you got the point of kotor 2 frfr

    • @aamirrazak3467
      @aamirrazak3467 3 года назад +13

      The exile was the culmination of her teachings and succeeded where others “failed” truly an amazing story

    • @dromankass8655
      @dromankass8655 3 года назад +8

      'Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts' - Churchill 1941

    • @JimmySpace69
      @JimmySpace69 Год назад +2

      Where is it mentioned that kreia was arren kae

  • @Aldgri
    @Aldgri 2 месяца назад +3

    Kreia is why I love SW as much as I do, she completely dismantled my predisposition and familiarity with the universe

  • @LordQuode
    @LordQuode 3 года назад +92

    Arguably the greatest sin in video game history was the time crunch forced upon Obsidian to release KOTOR2 without fully fleshing out and completing its content/story arcs. Even with that content cut, it remains one of the best and my personal favorite RPG of all time. Deliverance comes to those who appeal to their truest Self. Death comes the slowest, for those who most fear it.

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  3 года назад +10

      At least a lot of the content had been restored in a mod. Not all of it, but what had been restored certainly helped quite a bit!

  • @heavyhorsepower6002
    @heavyhorsepower6002 2 года назад +24

    1:45 I absolutely love the use of that line.
    "It is such a quiet thing-to fall."
    To the follow it up with the crashing cacophony of not only the orchestra, but the tragic events that shaped the star wars galaxy. Brilliant work!

  • @jrmorrow2
    @jrmorrow2 3 года назад +97

    Kreia was one of the most well written characters in Star Wars history. And it’s a shame she and her ideology isn’t used more often in media.

    • @AD_HDd
      @AD_HDd 2 года назад +4

      In what media? Disney? Good luck m8 🤣

    • @Pewfles
      @Pewfles Год назад +2

      With Dave. Its seems more and more plausible. Yes?

    • @piratekingthaszar7912
      @piratekingthaszar7912 5 месяцев назад +4

      Filoni could never match Avellone's writing ability. Disney would screw it up

  • @trime1015
    @trime1015 7 месяцев назад +3

    This whole video is better than everything Star Wars-related Disney has produced since it bought the franchise..

  • @TalykStudios
    @TalykStudios 3 года назад +86

    So glad this popped up in my recommended! Kreia DEFINITELY taught me things at a young age that no school or person ever did. To observe. To question. To understand. To perceive the ripples of the actions that lead to a moment, and the ripples that will follow...Then to do it all again from an opposing perspective, even at the possible cost of defying your own personal logic. But it's worth it, as you come to a wider, more encompassing, more informed perspective.
    There's no doubt that playing SWTOR and paying careful attention to her character is what lead me to be so interested in philosophy, candor, and various schools of Buddhist thought ^^!

  • @DarkKing009
    @DarkKing009 3 года назад +23

    that Malak at the end, so good

  • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
    @Duchess_Van_Hoof 3 года назад +44

    I think this will be the new finale of my Star Wars fan movie playlist. It is that good.

    • @micanikko
      @micanikko 3 года назад +1

      will you share your fan movie playlist pls?

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof 3 года назад +4

      It is sorted in a weird way, at the beginning there are the Vitiate videos, a bit later there are the clone wars, then a few various ones, later there are the animated Thrawn series, and towards the end there are the real emotional narrative. From the Sith of old to Plagueis and Vader, to Revan again to Kreia.
      I love videos like these, they are pure distilled Star Wars. If you are interested, start at the Dreams of an Empire clip.
      ruclips.net/p/PL_uE-QxGQ1GB36He9hrEKZc-6-Qiy1NDP

    • @micanikko
      @micanikko 3 года назад +2

      @@Duchess_Van_Hoof Thank you! I appreciate it ! :DDD

    • @heavyhorsepower6002
      @heavyhorsepower6002 2 года назад

      I just need to absolutlely thank you for posting that Playlist

  • @supremeleadergnkdroid3202
    @supremeleadergnkdroid3202 3 года назад +37

    Kreia is quite possibly one of the best written characters in any video game

    • @landotucker
      @landotucker 3 года назад +5

      Definitely the best written in star wars. And I say that as a big star wars fan, it's not a dig.

  • @zn4452
    @zn4452 3 года назад +175

    as a kid i remember my feelings being very hurt at the end when kreia betrayed me.

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin 3 года назад +45

      Like being betrayed by your favorite teacher when you were younger

    • @Senor_Penor
      @Senor_Penor 3 года назад +7

      Same man, during my first ever playthrough she was my permanent companion while i would swap out the others. When i got to the end and she betrayed me the ending was bittersweet.

    • @Robert-hz9bj
      @Robert-hz9bj 3 года назад +32

      The difference between a fall and a sacrifice is sometimes difficult. In the end, Kreia's "betrayal" was not truly a betrayal, but a final lesson. She never stopped being your teacher.

    • @Castia158
      @Castia158 3 года назад +1

      @@Robert-hz9bj This! Thank you!

    • @sterd1149
      @sterd1149 3 года назад +5

      @@Robert-hz9bj This. She didn't betray us, but rather presented the final test. As she explained, Atris was the physical embodiment to this conflict. She tested our spirit. She was always testing us, even then on the surface of a scarred planet.

  • @darthtrayus6066
    @darthtrayus6066 2 года назад +12

    "Cruelty leads to suffering, and when one suffers... It is the way of life to spread suffering."

    • @LattWest
      @LattWest Год назад +1

      The path to enlightenment is to choose forgiveness over suffering. Freeing yourself from the cycle of pain is true power. Life is not defined by good or evil but by whether we choose to be free or remain in our conditioning.

  • @draexian530
    @draexian530 3 года назад +12

    Kreia is one of the greatest characters in human story telling to me. An individual so devoted to truth and strength that she found herself at odds with the force, a nearly omnipresent power akin to the writers themselves.

  • @jaesh1198
    @jaesh1198 3 года назад +49

    This is beautiful. You've connected many parts of stars wars with one encircling theme. Falling.

  • @creapyalbinofish
    @creapyalbinofish 3 года назад +25

    I always thought the line "to be united by hatred is a fragile alliance at best" was incredibly profound, given how quickly people are to dogpile the "villains" of the world and are held together by little else in come cases. And then this "alliance" collapses once the object of their hatred is gone and begins to cannibalize itself.

  • @burnttoast26
    @burnttoast26 3 года назад +40

    This beautifully shows that Kreia is right. The Force imposes its cyclical will of death and pain and suffering upon the galaxy time and time again, that all life and death only serves to fuel the Force's cruel cycle. The Dark Side is far more natural than the Jedi would have you believe.

    • @billylindsey8627
      @billylindsey8627 3 года назад +1

      From a Christian perspective the Living force is a dangerous and abominable Alien entity that should be killed, and Medichlorians are a parasite that turns sentient beings (all of which have a sinful nature) into dogmatic demigods who impose their will on the rest of the galaxy, should probably be vaccinated against.

    • @Frame_Late
      @Frame_Late Год назад +2

      That's so depressingly true.

  • @GermoDante
    @GermoDante 2 года назад +4

    Kotor 2 was just absolutely amazing. The dissection of the force, it's tenets, the dark and light side and the concept of the force as enslavement. Just amazing. Better than anything Disney has written and will ever write.

  • @danieldosso2455
    @danieldosso2455 3 года назад +8

    Man, whoever the voice of KReia is, does a fantastiv job delivering the lines

  • @billylindsey8627
    @billylindsey8627 3 года назад +8

    Darth Traya is by far the greatest character of any story freaking ever.

  • @landotucker
    @landotucker 3 года назад +5

    Kreia is like my favourite character in ALL fiction.

  • @brickzebra8369
    @brickzebra8369 4 года назад +27

    Your video is getting recommanded, that's crazy

  • @majormajormajor
    @majormajormajor 3 года назад +3

    its like poetry it rhymes

  • @gmeloche4936
    @gmeloche4936 3 года назад +6

    So good, I've probably rewatched so many times with her captivating voice.

  • @bryuhMan
    @bryuhMan 3 года назад +2

    Kreia is the most best crafted character I've ever seen in video games

  • @DeusDevoid
    @DeusDevoid 3 года назад +6

    Kreia is probably one of the best written characters in the history of fiction in all forms of media.

  • @draexian530
    @draexian530 8 месяцев назад

    I come back here, and it's the audio that takes me. The voice acting, the score, the sometimes obvious cuts where you hear a character enter or leave suddenly. It's mesmerizing. I could live forever in the lilt Kestelman gives to the "no" whilst describing powers that would defeat Kreia.

  • @chrisgagnon2874
    @chrisgagnon2874 4 года назад +23

    Treya is still my favorite complex sith Lord

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  4 года назад +13

      Kreia/Traya is one of my favorite Star Wars characters and imo, one of the most well written characters in Star Wars if not THE most. I’m glad she’s still your favorite Sith! Although she defines herself as neither Jedi or Sith exclusively if I recall right.
      Thanks for watching! 😊

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 Год назад +3

    If Kreia was to see the Warhammer 40k galaxy I wonder how she would think of the Imperium of Man and God Emperor trying to destroy the Forces of Chaos while knowing the terrible things they do and consider it a nessesary cruelty and evil with and the selfless sacrifices they expect their men to do.
    Knowing the full deadly nature and environment their galaxy is truly like.

  • @lordinquisitor2494
    @lordinquisitor2494 3 года назад +21

    This is amazing. I really love this. This is as good as DuduFilm´s work!

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  3 года назад +3

      Wow thank you! That’s a huge compliment, DuduFilm is an amazing editor!

  • @landotucker
    @landotucker 3 года назад +4

    I love this. Must've watched it about 5 times now.

  • @joimumu
    @joimumu 3 года назад +3

    The calm before the storm

  • @DAlex0403
    @DAlex0403 3 года назад +2

    Trembling wonderful

  • @annunakiworshipper4060
    @annunakiworshipper4060 3 года назад +14

    Holy shit this deserves more views, THIS IS EPIC!

  • @theelectricprince8231
    @theelectricprince8231 Год назад +1

    I love Star Wars

  • @lisathefoolish2144
    @lisathefoolish2144 3 года назад +5

    What an incredible tribute

  • @draexian530
    @draexian530 3 года назад +2

    It's amazing that I realized falling, as in plummeting through a gravity well, is an inherently quiet thing long after I had thought for hours about the horror of not knowing you are lost to evil.

  • @joshmetz3646
    @joshmetz3646 3 года назад +1

    This is the best fan edit I've seen of any franchise. Kotor 2 is my favorite game ever. And seeing anyone appreciate it this much does my heart good.

  • @The_Caledonian
    @The_Caledonian 3 года назад +3

    this somewhat goes with "Cjbeards - Fire and Thunder"

  • @kranvis2885
    @kranvis2885 3 года назад +2

    What an edit! Thank you for sharing

  • @SeanBearwalker
    @SeanBearwalker 3 года назад +2

    You have truly touched the force with this. just really well done :)

  • @ebonking5486
    @ebonking5486 3 года назад +2

    This is an amazing edit

  • @antonhallergren588
    @antonhallergren588 3 года назад +1

    Kotor 2 is the best video game ever written. And the best take on star wars besides star wars. Probably because no other thing than the fall of anakin has ever been so dark yet still deep.

  • @krajt1999
    @krajt1999 3 года назад +3

    This video is so underrated

  • @democracytherepublic5451
    @democracytherepublic5451 3 года назад +4

    This is realy good. RUclips kept recommending this to me even though i was hesitant to click on it because of the low viewcount i did it in the end. I am not dissapointed, not at all. This is great, this might be the beginning of something great. We will watch your career with great interest. :)

  • @TKA001
    @TKA001 3 года назад +2

    0:29 - "There are techniques within the Force against which there is no defense"
    Yeah like getting your ass whooped

  • @NanoMayTry
    @NanoMayTry 3 года назад +2

    If an extra galactic civilization falls, and no one is around to hear it- Does it make a sound?

  • @passerby1200
    @passerby1200 3 года назад +4

    This is beautiful

  • @AD_HDd
    @AD_HDd 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for this.

  • @michaelexman5474
    @michaelexman5474 3 года назад +6

    BioWare made such geat stores. wedge yoy in a corner and forcectou to make gutwrenching dicisons!!!

    • @holy8782
      @holy8782 3 года назад +3

      Can't leave out Obsidian though. They are the ones who created Kreia.

  • @jacobsteinberg7638
    @jacobsteinberg7638 3 года назад +1

    BRB, sending this to literally everyone I know

  • @aturefrati7407
    @aturefrati7407 3 года назад +3

    Got yourself a new subscriber

  • @TheDreddedOne
    @TheDreddedOne 3 месяца назад

    As a huge fan of both Kotor and Kotor 2, this statement I believe ring true for Star Wars as a whole. There was never a time when someone fell, whether it be to the dark side or anything else, and it wasn't quiet. Let me give a more modern answer and an older media answer.
    1. Anakin: His fall truly was quiet. While Windu led a contingent of Jedi to slay Palpetine, the aftermath was quiet with the Jedi slain. Even what happened at the Jedi Temple was quiet, kept under tight lips by Palpetine who was announcing his Emperorship and the rise of the Galactic Empire. Even what happened on Mustafar was quiet.
    This next one actually pertains to this game.
    2. The Jedi Exile: So going by canon of The Old Republic, Meetra Surik's fall was a bit more subtle. The Mandolalorian Wars happen and a good portion of the order goes to fight for the Republic. The war comes to an end at Malachor V with Bao-Dur activating the massive gravity weapon killing Mandolorians and Jedi alike. This is when Meetra cut herself of from the force to shield herself from the lives extinguished on Malachor V. She is the summoned to the council on Courosant and exiled for disobeying the Masters and following Revan. That moment signals the fall. It begins the Nexus of questioning everything the Jedi think they stand for. It puts into perspective that Zez-Kai El and Kevar started to realize that the Jedi training was causing Jedi to fall. It also puts into perspective how arrogant both Vrook and Atris were, as much as they wish to deny it.
    So yes that whole statement about it being a quiet thing to fall rings true in all major events in Star Wars (Pre Disney lorebreaking a lot).

  • @sharpnelshots
    @sharpnelshots Год назад +1

    Don't know what is going on but this is just amazing.

  • @KrussaKuoosi
    @KrussaKuoosi 3 года назад +3

    You are talented.

  • @thorshammer7883
    @thorshammer7883 Год назад +1

    I would like to think if Kotor 3 was made properly and pure the themes and general endgame plot playing with it would fit Kreia's objective reasons why she hated the Force and actually make her right.
    You see after watching alot of videos surrounding Kreia, stories like the Star Wars vs Warhammer 40k fan story by AFanWithTooMuchTime, and cosmic horror beings like Abeloth being a nexus to both the light side & dark side I would like to imagine what Kotor 3 would have brought to the table the true threat beyond even the Ancient Sith could have been a powerful abstract entity/deity either a dark side entity or a eldritch being from outside both the regular dark side & light side but a being that is a vassal to the Force's will that demands certain things to happen during certain points to bring so called balance.
    Something powerful enough to even Celestials fear it.
    A force of destruction that would awaken in cycles to slowly become more active when the galaxy reaches a certain point and start a age chaos, war, and destruction.
    If needed capable of distorting reality and dimensions to bring so called equilibrium then after it's job is finished it goes back into a physical stumbling state to await the next time the Force's will demands it. While in this state it silently influences things and beings in the background creating antithesis factions so the Force's Will is satisfied.
    The deity itself being powerful and influential enough to keep all the True Sith in line and willingly loyal and revere it. Through both fear and love. True Sith who may be more powerful then Darth Nihilus individually.
    That is how I would like to think it. It would validate Kreia even more about the Force as a whole. The proof the Force is not truthful and manipulates individuals both directly and indirectly so to keep it's own twisted exalted agenda it wants enforced at the expense of individuals.
    Making a Wound in the Force nessesary against this being to atleast get it out of commission. To then partially deny the Force's Will by stopping what this being intends to bring.

  • @bleedszn
    @bleedszn Год назад

    this boutta be the best AI voice model

  • @aturefrati7407
    @aturefrati7407 3 года назад +1

    Awesome video! I liked the transition between kotor and the movies. But! I think after the transition into the films it would be more visually impressive if you recount Palpatine’s rise to power, from the GAR assembling in the end of AotC, to the battle of Coruscant, the declaration of the New order etc etc, and keep it there for the rest of the video, and instead of Malak have Sidious or Vader say something, it would just look a bit more consistent. But I absolutely love it!!

    • @rayvar_lothson43345
      @rayvar_lothson43345  3 года назад +1

      Thank you! And there are some things I had later realized could have been changed, but the Malak/Vader bit is there to keep true to the main point of the video, it is such a quiet thing to fall, but far more terrible is to admit it.
      My newer video’s I think have a bit more consistency in them. :)

  • @lemarble9277
    @lemarble9277 3 года назад +1

    amazing

  • @JhericFury
    @JhericFury Год назад +1

    Great video

  • @cosinguspalpatine4449
    @cosinguspalpatine4449 3 года назад +1

    The scene where Nihilus and Sion turn on Kreia should have gotten KOTOR II a mature rating. Shit HORRIFIED me as kid the first time I saw it.

  • @moesislac9288
    @moesislac9288 3 года назад

    The dragons breath

  • @peroroncino6109
    @peroroncino6109 3 года назад +1

    I want the same voice actor for Malak in Kotor remake or I will be really disappointed..

  • @Qeshen
    @Qeshen 2 года назад

    I think the hugest thing to take away from Kreia's story, is that it's not nearly enough to be knowledgable and an expert. We see time and again she's nothing short of a master of both Jedi and Sith techniques, but her fatal flaw?
    On a fundamental level, she's so set in her ways that she just *cannot* connect with people. Even in her outright devotion to the Exile, there's always that underlying jealousy that the exile barely even has to try to see eye to eye with members of their party.

  • @hawkofthereborn43
    @hawkofthereborn43 3 года назад

    "All clips and music used in this video belongs to their respected owners, I take no credit for it. This video is made purely for entertainment, no more."
    Reported for this stupid fucking obvious bullshit.
    No duh it's not yours, why do you do this? If somebody is stupid enough to not know who owns this game, then they don't need to live.

  • @MibuTempest
    @MibuTempest 11 месяцев назад +1

    fantastic.