Great video. The captions about the signals and controls was very good for those who don't understand them (speaking purely from a commuters point of view). They have done a great job restoration this set. I believe in the next couple of months the W3 set will be ready - that will be another huge milestone. They are also working on other red set cars and restoring a 5 car U set which will be monumental when finished since the last of those ran in early November 1996. In the next few years the V sets will be consigned to history. Will feel like the end of an era.
W3 is at Flemington. Only when staff have time to spare can they devote time to checking out W3 to make it ready for service. As for the U2, the photograph of a guy working on blue and yellow wiring was taken a few days before the video was published and I was there helping thread the heat shrink tubing over decaying low-voltage cables on that U2 power car. Apparently those Interurban cars have badly worn wheels, and cannot run in service until those are replaced, an expensive exercise.
@@tressteleg1 It must have been quite the experience to see those trains again up close after all those years! Some of them appeared in your early 1990's videos! I'm glad that some S set cars were also preserved - in all 14 including C3805 the first Comeng MK 1 car. C3840 at Petersham still exists as well. Unlike F1 and W3, the U sets have never turned a wheel in preservation. Most of those in their collection with lift up windows last ran late 1994 or early 1995 and these trains never received any major overhauls which although leaves them in more authentic/original condition has created a lot more work
The Lavender Bay line was interesting, I came up from Melbourne to examine it. I couldn’t ride it but I walked up some steep stairs to the line and I caught a bus that went under the rail bridge. I understand the Lavender Bay line originally ran from the ferry wharf before the Harbor Bridge was built.
Before I recorded that return trip to Strathfield which continued to Flemington carriage sidings, I spent much of the day taking lineside scenes everywhere I could between Wynyard and Lavender Bay. It will be published sometime. I also walked up those 100 or more steps from the sidings! As you said, those sidings were part of the previous rail terminus before the harbour bridge was open.
The sound from the old traction motors is fantastic (DC with stepped resistors?). Reminds me of a very old Kenwood mixer my grandma had. I always go to Platform 3 at Epping just to catch a V set to Hornsby purely for the noise of those motors, and the plush purple seats..... I’ll, be sad to see them go. Out of interest, what would be the maximum theoretical speed of these units and does the removal of weak field drop this significantly? The engineering that went into these units at the time of inception was very impressive.....
Agreed re sounds and DC resistors. The V sets are about the last to have good motor/gear sounds. While I was in the front of the train with the cameras, a friend was in the rear of that carriage recording the motor sounds from Redfern to Strathfield. At the moment I am playing around with that section of my video and am adding his motor sounds to the vision and sounds of the cab controller. The main camera of course will continue to run but with minimal sound. As with the first video, all sounds and vision will be accurately synchronised as closely as possible. I will probably publish it later in the year. As for maximum speed, I think they were rated at 50 mph/80 km/h which would be a train of equal number of motor cars and trailer cars and on level track. F1 has three motorcars and one trailer, one of the motors being a 7000 which are faster than the 3000 cars. Nevertheless someone has decreed that 80 km/h is the maximum speed for that train to run and as you would have seen, it did that in stretches along the run between Redfern and Strathfield, where track speeds were that fast.
Yes it is a new approach. It’s not often I get the chance to video the driver with the main camera looking out the front, but one suburban run like that was done recently and will be published sometime later this year.
Glad you liked it, Robert. Few people have commented about the thumbnail so sometimes I wonder if they liked it or not. At present I am preparing a run from Auburn to Leppington with the same feature added but as I don’t have much raw material on Sydney, I won’t post it for several weeks.
A great ride in a dear old (renovated) Red Rattler. Thanks so much. Maybe I could visit the renovation centre in Redfern one day. Not practical as to help, but happy to donate a small amount. Never thought about headlights but I knew the reds did not have them. I also never know ew about the width of the rattlers compared to today's rolling stock. Thanks again.
Glad you liked it. I may be confusing you with somebody else, but if you have mobility problems, it’s quite a distance from Redfern Station. Anyway if you have further thoughts on visiting or helping out financially, let me know. Despite the carriages and premises being owned by the railways, HET themselves have to buy paint and other supplies to restore the carriages. Red sets are around 10’ 6” wide, newer about 10’ so gap between trains and platforms have been reduced over the years. In the past, trains with headlights were not permitted to use them in the suburban area anyway, I believe.
@@tressteleg1 the older trains width kind of explains some of the awful gaps between newer trains and platforms...Parramatta is a glaring example of gaps! It always amazed me the millions spent on the major upgrade at Parramatta without correcting a lot of the gaps between trains and platforms. So thankful for the ramps. Yeah, I am the mobility challenged person.
Gaps have always been bad. I once slipped between a Standard set and the platform at Strathfield. In seconds people hoisted me out of the gap. Curved platforms are always a problem. Straight platforms, no excuse for a big gap.
Finally some great in cab views of the Master Controller being operated, An everyday occurrence back then but not often filmed, Well done and my controllers look just as good, Excellent and thanks
I thought you would appreciate this, bearing in mind you past history as explained recently. I have just started work on similar scenes with an A set Auburn to Leppington and return. Less exciting controls…
@@tressteleg1 A whole lot less appealing but I guess I’m a Master Controller fan after restoring 12 single deck ones to original, 5 W Set ones 3 original and two with extension handles and turned reverser and 4 U boat ones to original condition and several Mitsubishi DD ones that went into W Seats late in the piece I guess I’m blessed, I’m also been researching Master Contoller keys from very early to the end of the “ Spanners” being removed, Very interesting and adds a unique level to my controllers, Anyway enough babble and immensely enjoyed this video, Cheers
I also have an appreciation for master controllers. In fact I have a standard set master controller mounted in the backyard for controlling my model trams, not that they have run for quite some time. It is protected from the weather. You will see it in my “Gold Coast model trams” video. Did you restore those controllers for your own interest, or was that part of your working career? At the end of the F1 video, one of the last photographs shows a young guy working on the cabling of U3. I was helping him with that Wednesday last week. The reason I mention it is that there are moves afoot to replace original U set controllers with some something more modern from something else, the thought of which appals me. Maybe if you have some expertise in this matter, you may be able to convince them to use original controllers. These were also trains that I drove unofficially a number of times, and I really enjoyed driving them. The manual lapping EP brake was something I really appreciated using. My reason for saying this is that I didn’t think the controller handles were terribly difficult to hold down against the spring anyway.
@@tressteleg1 yes I noticed that, Barry wired two up on my Dad’s layout in the early 80’s and that started the whole interest actually before I started on the job in 1982, The controllers No I done those out of interest for myself dad knew the Works Manager at Elgar very well and Master Controllers were sent to the Carpenters shop at Clyde Wagon Works for me but I ended going there more time than I can remember getting controllers and brake valves and parts, The W set and U boat ones were being replaced with Double deck ones as the original ones were well beyond replacement and after removing them they were placed in rows in one of the bays on pallets, I was authorised to remove most and out of 13 I was able to make 5 complete W and U boat ones as for placing more modern ones in the heritage fleet for ease of maintenance maybe ok but as far as being authentic bad move, Drivers complained about the short handles but the spring was only part of it the return spring for the dead man barrel was the cause pushing against the handle hence on most W set cars a short extension handle was placed but again heavy hands I’ve found on the ones I have they also fractured at the elbow of the handle, Plans were afoot to replace U boat original controllers and 4 brand new ones were air freighted from England and were not Metro VIC but AEI but exactly the same as MV ones bar having AEI on top cover instead of MV symbol, Each was wrapped in plastic sheet with short reverser key (original short ones) and once at Elcar placed in storage and never made it into a U boat, On closing Elcar apart from spares these 4 were saved still wrapped in plastic now those handles are very hard to hold down as there all brand new, In my view if it was designed to have a certain type thats what should go back in as today’s new enthusiasts can see what went in the 50’s.
Very interesting thanks John. In fact it was only last Wednesday week that I took one of Barry‘s spare controllers to Redfern. One of the younger members who I have been in contact with for a couple of years was working on the wiring of a U set power car, so I stopped and helped him and that is the photo right near the end of the video. Perhaps you might like to call me out of the public gaze using: tressteleg(at)icloud.com Use the normal symbol instead of (at)
Now, if I applied for documents showing the controls, using the Government Information Public Access Act, my request would almost certainly be blocked on the basis that the release of the documents would facilitate the commission of a terrorist act. This is the response one gets to any request for technical information.
Very likely. This is the problem when governments employ bureaucrats whose entire (limited) knowledge stems from lectures at some tertiary high school. They would not know one end of a controller handle from the other, but still pass judgement.
Great idea of having the driver’s controllers! I’m sure in my younger days those trains used to hurtle into the tunnel after crossing the Bridge! And belt out into the daylight approaching Central! Or was it just that they were noisy and rattly and they seemed to be rocketing along🤔
You are not imagining anything! They used to fly into the tunnel from the bridge, often with a great thump of air. It looks like the speed limit through all the tunnels is now 40km/h. Timetables have been dumbed down substantially in recent decades. Except in the middle of the peak hour, North Sydney to Central was always 10 minutes. Now is is at least 14. On most other lines, trains now dawdle along despite being much more powerful than the single deckers were. I suspect it is so that politicians can boast in parliament that 99% of the trains are on time. It is almost hard to run late now.
Well until the Harbour Bridge was opened in 1932, that was the terminus of the North Shore line where people changed to ferries. Most of the sidings remained for offpeak train storage, but there is no real need for a passenger service there.
As a former tram driver (and now railway observer), the cab arrangements look weird. Anywhere else, the controller and brake handle would be on opposite sides compared to this set. I know Sydney did its own things with the trams, but I didn't think NSW would alter its train equipment layouts as well!
For reasons unknown, tram and electric train controllers are on opposite sides. So what you saw with F1 was perfectly authentic. And to further confuse the issue, most trams these days, and electric trains too, have just a single lever for power and braking. Melbourne E class, built by Bombardier, have the handle on the right of the driver’s seat. Gold Coast trams (I’m riding tram 01 at the moment 😊) have the handle on the left side of the seat! Sly Drives of Electric Trains. Melbourne, Sydney, London. ruclips.net/video/dR8gZ9tJeyI/видео.html
Blue jacket and white shirt, hiding behind a camera?? If you love traction sounds, here is a sneak preview of something special. Be sure to use good quality headphones or speakers, turned up loud. Let me know how you like it. Driver's View + Controls & Motor Sounds F1 Redfern to Strathfield ruclips.net/video/KJnfFYgGdZc/видео.html
I don’t know what aspect you are envious of, but if it was in reference to my cab ride, I was so busy with the cab camera that I saw little of the ride. But as I had a few drives of similar single deckers years ago, the ride up front was not quite so exciting 😄
As a Sydney guard in the 80's we learnt to drive on the old National Park branch in these old sets.. in theory it was so we could move the train in an emergency but in real life we used to get a drive while the driver had a rest on the old 2am A stopper on the Banko line. The things we got up to in them days would make the hair curl on the new bosses..wasn't uncommon to have 6 pack on the go on some of the dog shift runners to the sheds.
Yes I knew that the Nat Pk line was available for ‘playing trains’ between the morning service and the afternoon one around 4pm. As for the mischief midnight to dawn, it comes as no surprise to me but today’s ‘green’ bosses would have kittens, as you say.
Yes, sly drives were a lot easier to get in the past if you knew a willing driver. In this you will see that I drove one of the last red sets in service across the harbour bridge in 1992, amongst other trains here in there. Sly Drives of Electric Trains. Melbourne, Sydney, London. ruclips.net/video/dR8gZ9tJeyI/видео.html
1. would the train need to be retrofitted with modern day equipement for signalling purpose? 2. Lewisham fence off their platform 1 for safety, why not Stanmore and Summer Hill? 3. what suburban train get to ride on the main pair and where they return back to sububan pair before Redfern? 4. The very last silver long distance carriage in the video, I knew someone bought one, parked it in his property somewhere between Canberra and Cooma, and fit it out as a holiday cabin for his family.
As you would have seen, vigilance control was fitted to be compliant today. Apparently signalling still uses track circuits and that is good enough. 2. The back of Lewisham appears to have never been finished off as a platform, or if it was, that was a long time ago. 3. No idea, but in the past the occasional suburban did use the Main line. Exit crossovers just on city side of Redfern I think. 4. All the S sets, apart from a number of cars at HET, were scrapped and being stainless steel would be a good maintenance-free shed.
@@tressteleg1 Thank you for your replies! The reason of bringing up point 3 was that there was a suburban train on main line around 32:39 at Petersham, Waratah A set. Maybe that will terminate at the country platforms? There are some peak services from Epping that do that in weekdays.
Actually, now that you mention it, I did see the STN which said that trains from Richmond, I think it was, would be terminating at Central to free up platform 3 at North Sydney so that the F1 services could begin and end their runs there. So what you observed was probably one of those.
A very good one this week Driver operating controller was great.
Thanks. The chance to get Controller views does not happen often.
Great video. The captions about the signals and controls was very good for those who don't understand them (speaking purely from a commuters point of view). They have done a great job restoration this set. I believe in the next couple of months the W3 set will be ready - that will be another huge milestone. They are also working on other red set cars and restoring a 5 car U set which will be monumental when finished since the last of those ran in early November 1996. In the next few years the V sets will be consigned to history. Will feel like the end of an era.
W3 is at Flemington. Only when staff have time to spare can they devote time to checking out W3 to make it ready for service.
As for the U2, the photograph of a guy working on blue and yellow wiring was taken a few days before the video was published and I was there helping thread the heat shrink tubing over decaying low-voltage cables on that U2 power car. Apparently those Interurban cars have badly worn wheels, and cannot run in service until those are replaced, an expensive exercise.
@@tressteleg1 It must have been quite the experience to see those trains again up close after all those years! Some of them appeared in your early 1990's videos! I'm glad that some S set cars were also preserved - in all 14 including C3805 the first Comeng MK 1 car. C3840 at Petersham still exists as well. Unlike F1 and W3, the U sets have never turned a wheel in preservation. Most of those in their collection with lift up windows last ran late 1994 or early 1995 and these trains never received any major overhauls which although leaves them in more authentic/original condition has created a lot more work
Yes it was nice to see them again but I was on the tour to Emu Plains and Leppington a year earlier.
Thanks for posting this! Really enjoyed it! I take it that this particular run was in conjunction with the 90th anniversary for the bridge.
😊👍. Yes it was for the 90th. Just a pity that the 38 was marooned down at Thirlmere.
The Lavender Bay line was interesting, I came up from Melbourne to examine it. I couldn’t ride it but I walked up some steep stairs to the line and I caught a bus that went under the rail bridge. I understand the Lavender Bay line originally ran from the ferry wharf before the Harbor Bridge was built.
Before I recorded that return trip to Strathfield which continued to Flemington carriage sidings, I spent much of the day taking lineside scenes everywhere I could between Wynyard and Lavender Bay. It will be published sometime. I also walked up those 100 or more steps from the sidings! As you said, those sidings were part of the previous rail terminus before the harbour bridge was open.
Ha, on Monday 3rd October, I’m riding on a special to Lavendar Bay as part of the Calvacade of Transport.
Enjoy it.
Hi from Michigan . Thoroughly enjoyed the trip on the vintage train . Sydney has an amazing system. Thanks for posting.
Hi to a state I visited a few times in the past 😊. Glad you liked it. 👍
The sound from the old traction motors is fantastic (DC with stepped resistors?). Reminds me of a very old Kenwood mixer my grandma had. I always go to Platform 3 at Epping just to catch a V set to Hornsby purely for the noise of those motors, and the plush purple seats..... I’ll, be sad to see them go.
Out of interest, what would be the maximum theoretical speed of these units and does the removal of weak field drop this significantly? The engineering that went into these units at the time of inception was very impressive.....
Agreed re sounds and DC resistors. The V sets are about the last to have good motor/gear sounds.
While I was in the front of the train with the cameras, a friend was in the rear of that carriage recording the motor sounds from Redfern to Strathfield. At the moment I am playing around with that section of my video and am adding his motor sounds to the vision and sounds of the cab controller. The main camera of course will continue to run but with minimal sound. As with the first video, all sounds and vision will be accurately synchronised as closely as possible. I will probably publish it later in the year.
As for maximum speed, I think they were rated at 50 mph/80 km/h which would be a train of equal number of motor cars and trailer cars and on level track. F1 has three motorcars and one trailer, one of the motors being a 7000 which are faster than the 3000 cars. Nevertheless someone has decreed that 80 km/h is the maximum speed for that train to run and as you would have seen, it did that in stretches along the run between Redfern and Strathfield, where track speeds were that fast.
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Excellent run!! love the thumbnails of driver operating the controller
Thank you for posting this.😀😀💙💙
Yes it is a new approach. It’s not often I get the chance to video the driver with the main camera looking out the front, but one suburban run like that was done recently and will be published sometime later this year.
@@tressteleg1 Looking forward to that😀
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@@tressteleg1 😀
Thank You Richard. Perfect vid. Thumbnail of controls was a bonus.
Glad you liked it, Robert. Few people have commented about the thumbnail so sometimes I wonder if they liked it or not. At present I am preparing a run from Auburn to Leppington with the same feature added but as I don’t have much raw material on Sydney, I won’t post it for several weeks.
A great ride in a dear old (renovated) Red Rattler. Thanks so much. Maybe I could visit the renovation centre in Redfern one day. Not practical as to help, but happy to donate a small amount. Never thought about headlights but I knew the reds did not have them. I also never know ew about the width of the rattlers compared to today's rolling stock. Thanks again.
Glad you liked it. I may be confusing you with somebody else, but if you have mobility problems, it’s quite a distance from Redfern Station. Anyway if you have further thoughts on visiting or helping out financially, let me know. Despite the carriages and premises being owned by the railways, HET themselves have to buy paint and other supplies to restore the carriages. Red sets are around 10’ 6” wide, newer about 10’ so gap between trains and platforms have been reduced over the years. In the past, trains with headlights were not permitted to use them in the suburban area anyway, I believe.
@@tressteleg1 the older trains width kind of explains some of the awful gaps between newer trains and platforms...Parramatta is a glaring example of gaps! It always amazed me the millions spent on the major upgrade at Parramatta without correcting a lot of the gaps between trains and platforms. So thankful for the ramps. Yeah, I am the mobility challenged person.
Gaps have always been bad. I once slipped between a Standard set and the platform at Strathfield. In seconds people hoisted me out of the gap. Curved platforms are always a problem. Straight platforms, no excuse for a big gap.
Finally some great in cab views of the Master Controller being operated, An everyday occurrence back then but not often filmed, Well done and my controllers look just as good, Excellent and thanks
I thought you would appreciate this, bearing in mind you past history as explained recently. I have just started work on similar scenes with an A set Auburn to Leppington and return. Less exciting controls…
@@tressteleg1 A whole lot less appealing but I guess I’m a Master Controller fan after restoring 12 single deck ones to original, 5 W Set ones 3 original and two with extension handles and turned reverser and 4 U boat ones to original condition and several Mitsubishi DD ones that went into W Seats late in the piece I guess I’m blessed, I’m also been researching Master Contoller keys from very early to the end of the “ Spanners” being removed, Very interesting and adds a unique level to my controllers, Anyway enough babble and immensely enjoyed this video, Cheers
I also have an appreciation for master controllers. In fact I have a standard set master controller mounted in the backyard for controlling my model trams, not that they have run for quite some time. It is protected from the weather. You will see it in my “Gold Coast model trams” video.
Did you restore those controllers for your own interest, or was that part of your working career? At the end of the F1 video, one of the last photographs shows a young guy working on the cabling of U3. I was helping him with that Wednesday last week. The reason I mention it is that there are moves afoot to replace original U set controllers with some something more modern from something else, the thought of which appals me. Maybe if you have some expertise in this matter, you may be able to convince them to use original controllers. These were also trains that I drove unofficially a number of times, and I really enjoyed driving them. The manual lapping EP brake was something I really appreciated using. My reason for saying this is that I didn’t think the controller handles were terribly difficult to hold down against the spring anyway.
@@tressteleg1 yes I noticed that, Barry wired two up on my Dad’s layout in the early 80’s and that started the whole interest actually before I started on the job in 1982, The controllers No I done those out of interest for myself dad knew the Works Manager at Elgar very well and Master Controllers were sent to the Carpenters shop at Clyde Wagon Works for me but I ended going there more time than I can remember getting controllers and brake valves and parts, The W set and U boat ones were being replaced with Double deck ones as the original ones were well beyond replacement and after removing them they were placed in rows in one of the bays on pallets, I was authorised to remove most and out of 13 I was able to make 5 complete W and U boat ones as for placing more modern ones in the heritage fleet for ease of maintenance maybe ok but as far as being authentic bad move, Drivers complained about the short handles but the spring was only part of it the return spring for the dead man barrel was the cause pushing against the handle hence on most W set cars a short extension handle was placed but again heavy hands I’ve found on the ones I have they also fractured at the elbow of the handle, Plans were afoot to replace U boat original controllers and 4 brand new ones were air freighted from England and were not Metro VIC but AEI but exactly the same as MV ones bar having AEI on top cover instead of MV symbol, Each was wrapped in plastic sheet with short reverser key (original short ones) and once at Elcar placed in storage and never made it into a U boat, On closing Elcar apart from spares these 4 were saved still wrapped in plastic now those handles are very hard to hold down as there all brand new, In my view if it was designed to have a certain type thats what should go back in as today’s new enthusiasts can see what went in the 50’s.
Very interesting thanks John. In fact it was only last Wednesday week that I took one of Barry‘s spare controllers to Redfern. One of the younger members who I have been in contact with for a couple of years was working on the wiring of a U set power car, so I stopped and helped him and that is the photo right near the end of the video.
Perhaps you might like to call me out of the public gaze using: tressteleg(at)icloud.com
Use the normal symbol instead of (at)
very cool enjoyed watching it
😊👍
Now, if I applied for documents showing the controls, using the Government Information Public Access Act, my request would almost certainly be blocked on the basis that the release of the documents would facilitate the commission of a terrorist act. This is the response one gets to any request for technical information.
Very likely. This is the problem when governments employ bureaucrats whose entire (limited) knowledge stems from lectures at some tertiary high school. They would not know one end of a controller handle from the other, but still pass judgement.
@@tressteleg1 exactly right
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Great idea of having the driver’s controllers! I’m sure in my younger days those trains used to hurtle into the tunnel after crossing the Bridge! And belt out into the daylight approaching Central! Or was it just that they were noisy and rattly and they seemed to be rocketing along🤔
You are not imagining anything! They used to fly into the tunnel from the bridge, often with a great thump of air. It looks like the speed limit through all the tunnels is now 40km/h. Timetables have been dumbed down substantially in recent decades. Except in the middle of the peak hour, North Sydney to Central was always 10 minutes. Now is is at least 14. On most other lines, trains now dawdle along despite being much more powerful than the single deckers were. I suspect it is so that politicians can boast in parliament that 99% of the trains are on time. It is almost hard to run late now.
takes me back to my childhood, by the time i was in my teens they had gone out of service
Lucky you at least have some memories of these trains. You will have to ride this restored one, one day.
Excellent video!
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I enjoyed the ride with you guys 😊
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Lavender Bay looks so cool as a branch line in it's current state, too bad it's not being used more.
Well until the Harbour Bridge was opened in 1932, that was the terminus of the North Shore line where people changed to ferries. Most of the sidings remained for offpeak train storage, but there is no real need for a passenger service there.
As a former tram driver (and now railway observer), the cab arrangements look weird. Anywhere else, the controller and brake handle would be on opposite sides compared to this set. I know Sydney did its own things with the trams, but I didn't think NSW would alter its train equipment layouts as well!
For reasons unknown, tram and electric train controllers are on opposite sides. So what you saw with F1 was perfectly authentic. And to further confuse the issue, most trams these days, and electric trains too, have just a single lever for power and braking. Melbourne E class, built by Bombardier, have the handle on the right of the driver’s seat. Gold Coast trams (I’m riding tram 01 at the moment 😊) have the handle on the left side of the seat!
Sly Drives of Electric Trains. Melbourne, Sydney, London.
ruclips.net/video/dR8gZ9tJeyI/видео.html
18:53 that’s me on the left!
Blue jacket and white shirt, hiding behind a camera??
If you love traction sounds, here is a sneak preview of something special. Be sure to use good quality headphones or speakers, turned up loud. Let me know how you like it.
Driver's View + Controls & Motor Sounds F1 Redfern to Strathfield
ruclips.net/video/KJnfFYgGdZc/видео.html
Great video. I’m very envious.
I don’t know what aspect you are envious of, but if it was in reference to my cab ride, I was so busy with the cab camera that I saw little of the ride. But as I had a few drives of similar single deckers years ago, the ride up front was not quite so exciting 😄
I will need to watch this in two sessions because its is very late. But an interesting video and thanks for posting.
Take your time and watch it all 😄😆
As a Sydney guard in the 80's we learnt to drive on the old National Park branch in these old sets.. in theory it was so we could move the train in an emergency but in real life we used to get a drive while the driver had a rest on the old 2am A stopper on the Banko line.
The things we got up to in them days would make the hair curl on the new bosses..wasn't uncommon to have 6 pack on the go on some of the dog shift runners to the sheds.
Yes I knew that the Nat Pk line was available for ‘playing trains’ between the morning service and the afternoon one around 4pm.
As for the mischief midnight to dawn, it comes as no surprise to me but today’s ‘green’ bosses would have kittens, as you say.
@@tressteleg1 , did i remember correctly that you got a "sly-drive" on a late train in sydney?
Yes, sly drives were a lot easier to get in the past if you knew a willing driver. In this you will see that I drove one of the last red sets in service across the harbour bridge in 1992, amongst other trains here in there.
Sly Drives of Electric Trains. Melbourne, Sydney, London.
ruclips.net/video/dR8gZ9tJeyI/видео.html
doing a trip to Parkes Elvis week ?
Nope. I live too far away. Perhaps you can take some train scenes for me.
we came to Parkes to make Peace !!!!!
1. would the train need to be retrofitted with modern day equipement for signalling purpose?
2. Lewisham fence off their platform 1 for safety, why not Stanmore and Summer Hill?
3. what suburban train get to ride on the main pair and where they return back to sububan pair before Redfern?
4. The very last silver long distance carriage in the video, I knew someone bought one, parked it in his property somewhere between Canberra and Cooma, and fit it out as a holiday cabin for his family.
As you would have seen, vigilance control was fitted to be compliant today. Apparently signalling still uses track circuits and that is good enough.
2. The back of Lewisham appears to have never been finished off as a platform, or if it was, that was a long time ago.
3. No idea, but in the past the occasional suburban did use the Main line. Exit crossovers just on city side of Redfern I think.
4. All the S sets, apart from a number of cars at HET, were scrapped and being stainless steel would be a good maintenance-free shed.
@@tressteleg1 Thank you for your replies! The reason of bringing up point 3 was that there was a suburban train on main line around 32:39 at Petersham, Waratah A set. Maybe that will terminate at the country platforms? There are some peak services from Epping that do that in weekdays.
Actually, now that you mention it, I did see the STN which said that trains from Richmond, I think it was, would be terminating at Central to free up platform 3 at North Sydney so that the F1 services could begin and end their runs there. So what you observed was probably one of those.