Back when I played FF7 in the 90s, I already preferred the Cloud/Cid/Yuffie build. None of my friends used this party, preferring Barret, Tifa, or even Vincent. As a grinder, I have seen the potential of Cid and Yuffie early on. I am glad that many people use the same endgame party, which validated my earlier judgement.
@@csmith3248 True True but even though she does die you can still go see her Attending the Flowers in the Church but if you do just remember not to get to close or it's time to say your final goodbyes to seeing her
Fury Brand is a level 2 limit which means towards the end of the game, she could be giving her allies their level 4 limits nearly every fight. Not to even mention Great Gospel. Aerith *had* to die for the second half of the game to be remotely challenging.
This is surprisingly not true. You can test this by keeping her in your party for the entire game with the Yuffie Warp glitch. Her low HP / defense really start to offset her usefulness for random encounters, but she doesn't dominate bosses either because it's better to use all the broken attacking skills. Having played her multiple runs while beating the game's mechanics to death, she ends up around mid tier above Red XIII
In trailer yes, but they did her dirty in the movie. Relegated to the side narratively and not even given a rematch with Loz. That movie was a total letdown in general. Thankfully Tifa is AMAZING in Final Fantasy VII Remake. Finally given the respect she deserves.
They probably didn't answer them very good. The video has several mistakes, like calling Vincent the second best magic user (he is tied with Cait Sith as the third best, behind Cloud and Aerith), or calling Tifa a good mage, as even at the beggining she is behind the two best users, and she only surpases Cid and Barret, her specialties are hitting fast and hard, and even then she is the third in both categories (Cloud and Barret are stronger than her, Red XIII and Yuffie are faster than her), but her limits are actually quite good at the beggining, and it's only when the other characters begin to get their level 3 limits when she starts to lag behind those with really good level 3 limits). She IS mid tier, mind you, but the video contains mistakes about her, as the only things that really keeps her from being stronger than that is that her limit break can only potentially hit seven times (against things like Omnislash or Highwind, which launches at least 15 attacks) and her ultimate weapon is hit or miss, if she has her limit bar full (or almost) she is easily going to do 9999 damage, but if it is almost empty she'll be lucky if she reaches 4000 damage. Those are just some examples of things the video didn't get right, I'll have to see just how many more mistakes it contains that I can catch (I may very well miss some of them)
@@lenlimbo and then again you can always farm powersources/equip championbelt to make your favorite characters stronger and with the slot trick Tifa can get hits all the time if timed right,but still no more than 7 hits. If you want a Tifa powerhouse use 4-cut ,added cut +mime later on . And yes cids "highwind" and Barrets ungermax can be more powerful then omnislash when character are beefed up to 255 strength.
@@danhaden9933 IIRC, Tifa's overflow glitch involves her... was it the Soul Fist? The one that multiplies her attack power with every condition she suffers, the cursed ring and enough strenght to reach, with the multiplier, beyond what the game can manage. I wasn't talking about advanced strategies and special settings, just what a normal player would find in a normal playthrough. 4-cut, added cut and mime aren't exactly your average character settings XD
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Vincent is awesome for a casual gameplay. Use it as you primary mage/healer due to high magic stat. There are a lot of powerful magic/summon kn the game such as ultima. He has long range weapon too, so you can put him in the back row while receiving much less damage
And if you don't want to lose access to regular attacks and spells with his limit break, just give him deathblow. His longbarrel weapon has eight linked slots and never misses. Load him down with summons because he's the best caster (that you can keep anyway.) If his MP run out, pop that limit and use that instead, and the lowered HP from the summons won't matter anymore either. As you say, excellent for casual play.
Cait Sith is actually the best character in the game. on a basic level, he has a very high magic stat (actually same as vincent) and good hp, so he can abuse enemy skill to sweep most fights, also gets an 8 matira slot weapon on disk 1, making him the best mage (except aries). On a more complicated level his Slots limit is abusable, you can practice it to get cait sith face every time because the slots start on the same point every time. there are tutorials on how to abuse it. He can literally win every fight in 1 hit.
When playing ff7 remake, you have to be honest that all four have too much of a unique set up for each Aerith is op with magic Tifa can combo and increase the stagger gauge Barret hands down is the best support due to his def, hp and the abilities that help lower it And cloud is good all-round but his is hands down the best at countering and the strongest physically Ahh This makes me so hyped when seeing red, yuffie, Vincent, cait sith and cid Cause knowing from how unique each character that we have now, makes me just wonder how the others will play😍😍
Vincent's Death Penalty and Barrett's Missing Score are the only weapons in the whole game that can do the overflow glitch that does enough damage to 1-shot anything, even Emerald Weapon, except for Ruby and Safer Sephiroth because their defense is insane. If it weren't for his berserk limit breaks I'd put him a few tiers higher
Loved the video! FFVII is without one of the greatest games of all time along with one of the best in the series! I agree that Cait Sith does have mediocre stats in most categories, though he has the 3rd highest Magic Stat along with Vincent with each of them moving up to 2nd place after Aeris leaves and both have the 2nd highest Spirit stat! Cait Sith's limit breaks are difficult, but learning the pattern and practicing timing will allow one to use his Game Over limit to one shot all enemies in the game!
It should be mentioned that because Barret/Yuffie/Vincent use ranged weapons, they can be placed in the back row for half damage while still performing full damage to opponents.
@dan haden Although that's true, you'll probably only have one Long Range materia for most of the game. So not everyone will be able to use it, just one character (probably Cloud). So if the other two party members are naturally long ranged, your entire team can fight in the back row.
@@fancyesquire8888 well I am a grinder and FF7 fanatic and usually get omnislash in disc 1 so by the time i am in disc 2 i already have 2 long range materia 1for Cloud and 1 for cid but I really have no use for them because the fights are never that long,but still they are good for those annoying fights were you cant reach the enemy.
Something worth remembering I think is that outside of the super bosses you can really just use whoever you want. Is Cait Sith optimal? Definitely not. But this isn't a challenging game in general so it doesn't matter too much. :)
7:51, not true, Red XIII is the fastest 8:45 while he can share clouds 100 base attack stat it's not exactly true since he can have at minimum of 94 at level 99 while cloud's minimum is 98 10:39 also not true, he shares Aerith's high magic stat that can reach maximum of 100 for both black and white magic stats or at bare minimum 98 if for black arts or 93 for white arts.
There is a way around it and it's kind of game-breaking. If you use Phoenix with Final Attack materia, then you will strike back harder than the Empire.
The coolest characters are barrett and cid. A toxically masculine black guy and a toxically masculine white guy. Now we have four metrosexuals in a car in ffxv. Barret and Sid would have finished that quest in a few hours
The best team would be Cloud, Barret, and Yuffie for battling It’s better to go with Barret over Cid because Barret’s ultimate weapon is much stronger provided he has a materia setup with a lot of high AP materia Moreover, he’s free to use his MP however he wants while Cid wants to keep his MP filled up Barret’s Angermax also charges up much faster than Cid’s Highwind whilst dealing a similar (if not higher depending on the weapon/materia setup) amount of damage Yuffie is also chosen over Cid for similar reasons. Her ultimate weapon scales damage depending on the opponent’s level, so you’re always guaranteed to have max power against high-level opponents. Basically, you’ll have high power when you need it, you won’t have it when you don’t. Her Doom of the Living also charges up faster that Highwind meaning you’ll get more uses out of it Cloud, Cid, Yuffie is best only for Materia grinding since they have high growth weapons
DaenQuinn by that point in the game, you should already have plenty of high level materia, so loading him up with up with materia should be no issue. This is really only an issue if you don’t want to take the time to grind materia Cid’s higher magic stat doesn’t matter when you’re supposed to be keeping him at max MP to ensure max physical damage output. Cid is not meant to be your spell caster, that’s Cloud’s job That said, Barret can leave all the spell casting to both Cloud and Yuffie while also being able to use his own MP for support spells if necessary Barret’s Angermax has the same amount of hits as Cid’s Highwind and also comes with the benefit of charging up faster due to being a level 3 limit. Assuming both Barret and Cid are hitting at 9999 with each hit, this makes Barret better because he’ll be able to use his limit more often whilst dealing the exact same amount of damage Barret is also bulkier with the highest HP in the game. Giving him Cover combined with his high physical defense stat (also highest in the game) will allow him to tank all of the physical blows that are targeted towards his teammates. It synergies especially well with Cloud with his Ultima Weapon equipped since Cloud wants to keep his HP as high as possible Barret is far from useless and even if you believe him to he so he’s still not as bad as someone like Cait Sith
DaenQuinn you’re assuming I’m equipping Barret with magic materia and planning to use him as a mage You don’t have to equip magic materia onto him (you have 4 different materia types after all) and, even if you do, you don’t necessarily have to use the spells they give you. You can literally just equip the materia for the stat increases. Look at the KotR setup for example Angermax is weaker if Barret is not dealing max damage with every hit that’s true. Barret still has Catastrophe though and Catastrophe’s damage output is very close to Highwind only being about 12% weaker (Catastrophe max damage after all hits are added is 12.25 x base, Highwind max damage after all hits are added is 12.375 x base) Cloud doesn’t wanna be a magic caster either, but since has the highest magic stat (not counting Aerith of course) he’s the one who will have to be stuck with spell casting. Both Barret and Cid do more physical damage than him anyways as long as their weapons are setup properly The master materia should only go to the designated spell caster. As I said before, Barret doesn’t necessarily need to have it. Hell, he shouldn’t have it at all on his Missing Score because the master materia are among the few materia that don’t add to Barret’s power Enemy skills still use up MP, so Cid doesn’t make for a good enemy skill user either. Barret, however, can still be used to cast the defensive skills such as big guard while Cloud or Yuffie focus all their MP on launching nuke spells like Ultima I love Cid, but I prefer the overall versatility that Barret provides Other note I forgot to mention: the higher Spirit stat doesn’t matter in earlier versions of the game where Magic Defense doesn’t work, so that’s something else to consider
Vincent's death penalty is also one of the strongest final weapons if maxed out since it auto kills nearly every enemy in the game, Including bosses thanks to the overflow glitch.
I am the only person I know that got Great Gospel IRL. I also got Ominslash on disc 1 which some people argued with me on the internet wasn't possible!
Hmmm. I subbed... but Vincent and Barret can kill things in one hit with overflow. Also Yuffie can morph at full power. I think Cloud is 4th tbh. Top tier. The aforementioned characters GODS. Yes it takes time, but the point here was how high the ceiling can go :) and swap Cid for Barret. Barret and Yuffies best LBs are LVL3. So they come faster. No one touches Tifa tho early game. She can solo/speed run and w/o boosters she does waaaaay more damage with everyone if you grind her LBs. Her slots become muscle memory and she kinda breaks the game until you can get Cloud back after Mideel. Still a good list. And this game can still be beaten with just the attack button so I had to nerd out naturally
If you hack Aerith back in the party with game genie, you'd find her God tier with that support ability. Consider Fury Brand with omnislash and highwind...or invincibility for the whole team.
Most of the info in this video is wrong. I don't know where you obtained your info on stat growth but stat growth tables are available on the fandom wiki. Cait sith is tied for highest HP with barret. His magic stat is equal to vincent. Yuffie has the highest luck stat but that's not very useful because luck growth is low for all and you must source farm to boost it. Steal and manipulate are not based on dex...steal is based on level. Tifa is tied for lowest magic stat with barret and cid. Red 13 stats are not comparable to cloud. His speed is comparable to yuffie and tifa. Cloud's magic stat is second best in game besides aeris, he surpasses cait sith and vincent and he's tied for highest str with barret cid and tifa. No mention of barrets missing score weapon which easily makes his physical damage best in game. You really should either take this video down or at the very least post a correct version
Just seen this video myself and I have to agree with you 100%. Nothing on powersoul or overflow glitch, or how broken cait sith is when you know how to manipulate his limit.
I always use Vincent, but I will admit his limit breaks irritate me. If they could have just made it so you could control him or at least give him a revert option! Because once he transforms and you find out it's not good for the fight, you're stuck unless you kill this man and can bring him back to life and it's just so frustrating.
My team is cloud yuffie and cid. This party is powerful and fun. Sorry my english. Pd: yuffie's last weapon is the best, because she hit more/ lvl enemies
In the remake tifa and cloud are god tier my original ff7 team is cloud, tifa and yuffie swapping the latter with cid or red depending on if its early or late game.
Honestly Tifa and Cait Sith are underrated here. Their limit breaks are some of the strongest in the game, and while they do use slots, it's very easy to abuse the slots and guarantee you get what you want. The only one that is difficult is the instant kill on some enemies with Cait Sith's slots, but if I remember right there is a workaround that let's you use it when you're not supposed to be able to. Shout out to Yuffie for having one of the most influential glitches tied to her in the PC port though.
barret can also be manipulated into not only your shield (high defense/HP) but simultaneously your healer! I know it sounds weird since his magic stat sucks but grind those magic sources baby! My go to party is cloud, yuffie, and barret !
I really thought Yuffie would be number one on the list, simply because of how absolutely broken conformer is, he can do quad 9s so early and combine with doom of the living and her speed she is an absolute DPS queen, yeah if youre talking pure end game optimization maybe others can catch up to conformer. Cool to see that my team ive always used every since the game came out you have as the most optimal team though, Yuffie Cloud Cid is god tier.
I just have Nanaki (you can call him Red XIII) in my party the whole game and rip Sephiroth a new one each time. He'll take Cloud, Tifa or Barret along just for fun but but he's got this.
Cat is also a great mage and at the end of the day he is a character based in probabilities, i dont understand why ppl have so much hate for such a creative character, cat sith is not a main character but definetly covering that funny character very well, i love it. It is like Quina in ff 9
Can't disagree more.. Cait Sith is #1 His magic stat is the same as vincent (highest except Aeris and Cloud who both you can't choose so arguably don't count), but unlike Vincent, Cait Sith actually gets good weapons for magic (gets an 8 slot matiria weapon on disk 1). That makes him the best mage in the game, and the best choice to abuse enemy skill, so even without his broken god-tier limit break he's still a good character. More importantly however, his Slots limit is simply god-tier. If you take the time to actually learn how to use it, it's a win fight button. There are tutorials here on youtube (GarlandTheGreat has a good one) that can explain it better. Oh also, you said Cloud has low magic stat, that's wrong, he has second highest, only just behind Aeris. Cloud overall has the best stats, the only reason he's not better than Cait Sith is because of how broken and abusable Slots is.
I mean, if we're going off of straight one-shots, Cait Sith wins every time. His one-hit KO is manipulatable and you can get it every time. Also, Vincents Overflow glitch takes unreasonably too long to set up. More reliably and easier (debatably faster too). is to run away from 1111 battles, cast Chocomog on yourself when you have max HP(It's damage is based how much you've run away). This will make your health exactly 7777, which causes that character to deal 7777 damage 64 times. This setup will remain useable every battle till you run away again, which you won't ever need to do again. You can get max hp faster by buying a bunch of HP plus materia.
I actually made Barret my healer/Paladin in my playthrough, his high health made it so that I could slot plenty of magic materia without him becoming too squishy or needing to balance it out with more attack buffing materia, plus the healer needs more survivability since when they go down it signals the death spiral of the party.
the best thing about FFVII is that you can take a bad stat character - like Barret (I'll explain) - and make them into a massive asset to the team with the right materia combinations. I tend to place Red with Cloud in my stats and I usually use him or Yuffie in my team with one other...yes, Tifa. For obvious reasons. Her Limit Breaks of course, if you get them 100% right you've got the best Limit in the game bar none. I tend to place Barret at the bottom for his low magic stats and lower than average HP with abysmal Limit Breaks, Mind Blow - I know no one who ever used that limit - and he is terrible at Matiera Growth.
Same, all 3 in my opinion do attack, magic, and survival well. My first play through I went with this team till the end, once I got them all. That said, this is one of the few games where you cant really go wrong with any of the “permanent” character (except Cait Sith).
In this game? Nothing at all, it's just magic, but in most final fantasy it means the magic used by wizards (black magic) and the magic used by healers (white magic). Usually people think it means attacking magic (black magic) and healing magic (white magic), but black magic have also suport spells (like sleep or dispel) and white magic have attacking spells (like Holy) and suport spells (like barrier)
I agree with the beginning part, people who have the game just scream NOSTALGIA over and over without going into detail. You really can't won with them, FFVII haters are like Freddy Krueger he has a different weaknesses each time but always comes back. For example when people say it only got popular because of FMVs, if you say "then why didn't all those Turbo Grafx CD and Sega CD games not get popular? Those even had voice acting." They'll reply with "see another way it wasn't as influential as fanboys claim". Also unrelated but Ys and The Legend of Heroes only took off in the west when they stopped using voice.acting and FMVs.
Only one answer not cat sh*t........ After finishing the video my normal party was the top three cloud,cid, Barrett just my favorite characters best weapons i love great sword and spear and losing an arm and adding a gun that responds to you is just fu****g cool.... period
Yuffie's ultimate weapon morphing is ridiculously useful late game when you want to farm sources and her ultimate weapon damage is far more consistent than Cloud and Cid.
I can't believe someone put Aerith in sh*t tier and Caith motherfracking Sh*t!!! is only bad tier although you can destroy everything in the game with him IT TAKES HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF ATTEMPTS
Cloud was actually not just my damage dealer but also my physical tank with Cover, long Range and Counter Attack. It simply makes sense considering how much damage he can deal. HP Plus to round it off of course. 4xCut and Slash All are also must haves on him of course. Though you might wanna give them to Vincent too if you have him on your party. Though usually I just spam Deathblow with him. I totally agree with your opitmal party though. Cloud would be a must have regardless of wether he is the main character or not. But Barrett/Yuffie and Cid are pretty much interchangeable. Yuffie and Barrett of course do have the long range benefit over Cid. But for max damage, Cloud, Barret and Cid sure are the way to go. But for everyone who wants their fav to be on his team. Just take him. This game is pretty easy and can be beat with everyone without too much trouble. The optimal party is only really needed for the Weapons.
I expected Cait Sith to be on the shit tier but not Aerith. Sure she isn't around long enough to warrant picking her as a party member but if you ignore this, she'd actually be god tier on my list. The only other party member I might have put on the shit tier list would be vincent because of his limit breaks but he does have some redeeming qualities. Like an almost guaranteed Deathblow hit. I'd have put Tifa in the low tier as well because of how annoying her limit break is. Not only is it only viable when you put the ATB on wait, you still have to hit the slots at the right time. Trust me, I wouldn't put her in low tier if I didn't think she was that bad because to me she is the best Final Fantasy girl, the ultimate FF waifu. The rest of the tiers were obvious. Cid and Barret because of ther damage and limit breaks. And Cloud because of his overall great stats and access to the best attack in the entire game, Omnislash. Only Knights of the Round can match Omnislash after all.
I usually give everyone established jobs and a summon each: Cloud = Warrior/Time Mage Aerith = Sage Tifa = Monk Barret = Warrior Red = White Mage Yuffie = Thief Cait Sith = Blue Mage Vincent = Black Mage Cid = Dragoon
White is heals Black is damage Red is a mid level white and black mage as well as a novice warrior Blue mage uses enemy magics Green is status effects and other support Arcane normally has the offensive spells black mage doesn't. I think thats all of em
@@onmas909 my favorite mix is Red and Blue. Red uses Rapiers and Blue mages use Scimitars. Both have decent melee skills but theyre def the most versatile mages so you can do everything as those 2
Only problem with your list is its wrong. Yuffie is the strongest character. Max her out 15x9999 damage is the strongest attack over omnislash and knights of the round.
Putting Cid above Barret was stupid, especially with the reasons given. Missing Score is more reliable since it's based on the AP in materia (and it can even overflow for on hit kills, though I guess including bugs is debatable), and angermax actually does more damage than Highwind against single targets (which means most big end-game bosses). Also considering that you get your limits a lot more often if they are set lower, angermax is made even more optimal and that even bumps Red XIII up a few levels since Stardust is really good. Plus the triple growth weapons are generally worse than the 4 slotted double growth weapons. You can argue apocalypse is better because 3 x 3 = 9 vs 4x2 =8, but Cid's only has two slots, so that's only 6 materia worth of growth. Tifa's motor drive and Yuffie's Rising Sun are actually the best weapons in the game for materia growth on account of being double growth weapons with 6 slots.
I’m not sure I agree with this list in it’s entirety. Cait Sith’s limit breaks can actually be manipulated, so it puts him FAR higher on the list. The same goes for Tifa, although to be honest in her case it’s a lot more trouble than it’s worth, so her being lower is alright. Vincent might actually be worse than Aerith in normal gameplay, if only because you literally can’t control him once his limit goes off, making him tricky to play with. This one is platform specific, but you can smuggle Aerith into the latter parts of the game if you wait to pick up Yuffie until after she dies, and do a specific version of the Yuffie Warp Glitch. CID’s triple growth weapon isn’t really useful, because it only has two slots. That means it has six slots of growth potential. By contrast, all characters have four slot, double growth weapons, which grants eight slots of growth. You could also use an eight slot weapon, but it’s not as fast at growing individual materia. I usually rate Barret higher than Cid. He, Vincent and Yuffie all have long-range weapons, which means they can safely hang out in the back row and take half damage for very little opportunity cost (though Vincent and Cloud are interchangeable, depending on what you’re trying to do…). Nanaki is the best overall support character, when you factor in the Limits he can use and his decent magic stats. Tifa has some very cool weapon mechanics that can’t be ignored, though! Giving her a Curse Ring with the right weapon (power soul is solid, and Master fist is extremely versatile as well) can give you a solid damage boost!
Ok, lol! CID is even better than just his triple growth weapon... he gets the only double growth weapon with 5 slots!!! Making cloud and cid the only characters with the ability to grow material at a faster rate than the equivalent of 8 materia at one time (think double growth with 4 slots = 8 total slots of growth in FF7) so clouds Apocalypse with 3, 3x slots is = to 9 total materia growth while cids double growth weapon with 5 slots is = to 10 total slots of 1x materia growth. Make sense?.. basically Cids triple growth weapon has two slots, so while better for quickly mastering a specific materia it’s not the most efficient weapon he has for materia growth over all! Great video tho!
Agree with the mid tier and lower, and the order of them, too. I would re-arrange the top four characters somewhat, though. God Tier would be Barret and Cid, in that order. Both have 18-hit limit breaks, but Barret's is a Lv. 3, which thus charges up faster than Cid's. Yuffie and Cloud, in that order, would be Top Tier right below Barret/Cid. Both have 15-hit limit breaks, but Yuffie ranks slightly higher because hers is a Lv. 3, again charging up faster than Cloud's. If you're more casual (a.k.a. not min-maxing) then I could see putting Cid and Cloud, in that order, ahead of Barret and Yuffie, as CId/Cloud are much easier to actually max their damage at 9999 per hit on their limit breaks even on a casual playthrough.
Actually I think this list might be completely wrong for true endgame, assuming all characters with max stats. Assuming max stats id wager spamming 4x slash or slash all out dps's Knights of the Round because of its super long attack animation. Assuming max speed and str a character can probably attack more then 13 times before knights of the round finishes. So in reality the real ranking is which character has the quickest attack animation.
Just recently played ff7 OG and in the Shinra tower the first time you can find a megaphone in Reeves Locker... blew my mind. All these years and that little Easter egg can be found before leaving Midgar after the plate drops.. the game told us Cait was a spy that early.. wow
Crap Tier 1:50 Aerith 2:58 Cait Sith Low Tier 4:23 Vincent Mid Tier 5:29 Tifa 6:41 Red XIII Top Tier 7:46 Yuffie 8:31 Barret 9:17 Cid S Tier 10:26 Cloud 11:19 Optimal Party Cloud, Cid, and Yuffie Or switch out Yuffie for Barret if you're planning to max out stats for each character which should not be that hard if you look up "Source Farming" and because Angermax is just stronger than Doom of the Living if you max out your Strength and Luck
Yuffie should be God tier. Everyone seems to not understand how strong she is. Conformer weapon is super broken. And she can heal herself with limits. So basically solo all end game bosses at low level.
2:08 “She (Aeris) is one of the worst choices as a late game character...”
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Just started playing and love using her
@@KHRAVINRAJ no reason...
@@KHRAVINRAJ because she dies mid-game and you can't play her anymore.
so all that time invested in her gets wasted.
Back when I played FF7 in the 90s, I already preferred the Cloud/Cid/Yuffie build. None of my friends used this party, preferring Barret, Tifa, or even Vincent. As a grinder, I have seen the potential of Cid and Yuffie early on. I am glad that many people use the same endgame party, which validated my earlier judgement.
I decided to try Cid, and when he did 2x the damage of all my other characters, I decided to keep him
In the hands of a speedrunner that knows how to manipulate the slots RNG, Cait Sith goes from bottom tier to a win button.
If she was available late game Aeirith wouldbe God tier. Those limit breaks are mental
True maybe that’s why they killed her off Aerith would break the game limit break level 4 “great gospel” restores HP/MP and make everyone invincible
@@csmith3248 True True but even though she does die you can still go see her Attending the Flowers in the Church but if you do just remember not to get to close or it's time to say your final goodbyes to seeing her
Replenish everyone else's Limit would make her OP. Dont need HP/MP/Immortality if your gonna murder everything with multi-hit Limits.
Fury Brand is a level 2 limit which means towards the end of the game, she could be giving her allies their level 4 limits nearly every fight. Not to even mention Great Gospel.
Aerith *had* to die for the second half of the game to be remotely challenging.
This is surprisingly not true. You can test this by keeping her in your party for the entire game with the Yuffie Warp glitch. Her low HP / defense really start to offset her usefulness for random encounters, but she doesn't dominate bosses either because it's better to use all the broken attacking skills. Having played her multiple runs while beating the game's mechanics to death, she ends up around mid tier above Red XIII
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The clip of Tifa kicking ass in the church in Advent Children gave me chills.
When my buddy and I were watching that trailer for the first time, we lost our shit when she came on screen whooping ass.
In trailer yes, but they did her dirty in the movie. Relegated to the side narratively and not even given a rematch with Loz. That movie was a total letdown in general. Thankfully Tifa is AMAZING in Final Fantasy VII Remake. Finally given the respect she deserves.
Man I didn’t know that. I gotta add Cloud to my team
Cloud, Yuffie, Cid = My Team
same! sometimes i do cloud, yuffie, red 13.
Definitely subbed; this was literally the only search result that answered my question. Cheers
They probably didn't answer them very good. The video has several mistakes, like calling Vincent the second best magic user (he is tied with Cait Sith as the third best, behind Cloud and Aerith), or calling Tifa a good mage, as even at the beggining she is behind the two best users, and she only surpases Cid and Barret, her specialties are hitting fast and hard, and even then she is the third in both categories (Cloud and Barret are stronger than her, Red XIII and Yuffie are faster than her), but her limits are actually quite good at the beggining, and it's only when the other characters begin to get their level 3 limits when she starts to lag behind those with really good level 3 limits).
She IS mid tier, mind you, but the video contains mistakes about her, as the only things that really keeps her from being stronger than that is that her limit break can only potentially hit seven times (against things like Omnislash or Highwind, which launches at least 15 attacks) and her ultimate weapon is hit or miss, if she has her limit bar full (or almost) she is easily going to do 9999 damage, but if it is almost empty she'll be lucky if she reaches 4000 damage. Those are just some examples of things the video didn't get right, I'll have to see just how many more mistakes it contains that I can catch (I may very well miss some of them)
@@lenlimbo and then again you can always farm powersources/equip championbelt to make your favorite characters stronger and with the slot trick Tifa can get hits all the time if timed right,but still no more than 7 hits.
If you want a Tifa powerhouse use 4-cut ,added cut +mime later on .
And yes cids "highwind" and Barrets ungermax can be more powerful then omnislash when character are beefed up to 255 strength.
@@danhaden9933 IIRC, Tifa's overflow glitch involves her... was it the Soul Fist? The one that multiplies her attack power with every condition she suffers, the cursed ring and enough strenght to reach, with the multiplier, beyond what the game can manage. I wasn't talking about advanced strategies and special settings, just what a normal player would find in a normal playthrough. 4-cut, added cut and mime aren't exactly your average character settings XD
@@lenlimbo no i guess you are right,since these can also be a hustle to get.
clicked the vid just to say Tifa.
Tifa was the best.
Tifa saved the planet.
Tifa.
Whilst looking up random ff7 videos I stumbled upon this video. I watched all of it and really enjoyed your takes. I assumed you were some huge ff7 youtuber and everything was very professional yet unique and stylized. I was floored when I saw your subscriber count... the editing, script, and your personality were great! Keep making videos that come from the heart! You will be big in no time!
I also wanted to add that you have a gained a fan in me! Keep kickin ass!
Haha thanks. I actually had a large channel but RUclips took it away. I'll keep making them!!
Vincent is awesome for a casual gameplay. Use it as you primary mage/healer due to high magic stat. There are a lot of powerful magic/summon kn the game such as ultima. He has long range weapon too, so you can put him in the back row while receiving much less damage
And if you don't want to lose access to regular attacks and spells with his limit break, just give him deathblow. His longbarrel weapon has eight linked slots and never misses. Load him down with summons because he's the best caster (that you can keep anyway.) If his MP run out, pop that limit and use that instead, and the lowered HP from the summons won't matter anymore either.
As you say, excellent for casual play.
Well, Tifa has the Powersoul Glitch....good for speedrunning
Aeris in the shit tier?! Triggered
Cait Sith in the shit tier? Faith in the video restored.
😂
Cait Sith is actually the best character in the game. on a basic level, he has a very high magic stat (actually same as vincent) and good hp, so he can abuse enemy skill to sweep most fights, also gets an 8 matira slot weapon on disk 1, making him the best mage (except aries). On a more complicated level his Slots limit is abusable, you can practice it to get cait sith face every time because the slots start on the same point every time. there are tutorials on how to abuse it. He can literally win every fight in 1 hit.
When playing ff7 remake, you have to be honest that all four have too much of a unique set up for each
Aerith is op with magic
Tifa can combo and increase the stagger gauge
Barret hands down is the best support due to his def, hp and the abilities that help lower it
And cloud is good all-round but his is hands down the best at countering and the strongest physically
Ahh
This makes me so hyped when seeing red, yuffie, Vincent, cait sith and cid
Cause knowing from how unique each character that we have now, makes me just wonder how the others will play😍😍
Its' going to be amazing.
I'm really excited for Yuffie personnaly, a fast af ninja can only be fun to play as.
Didn't mention that Yuffies Comformer has full damage when she uses morph making her easily god tier when it comes to farming items
Conformer butchers the Weapons lmao
Yuffie can solo emerald weapon in 2 mins with 1 hero drink Doom of the living goes for 9999 per hit when her stats are maxed out.
I was just stating 1 fact to make her higher on the tier list lmao
Use 4 hero drinks, Conformer and her level 4 limit break has a decent chance to activate the overflow glitch.
Vincent's Death Penalty and Barrett's Missing Score are the only weapons in the whole game that can do the overflow glitch that does enough damage to 1-shot anything, even Emerald Weapon, except for Ruby and Safer Sephiroth because their defense is insane. If it weren't for his berserk limit breaks I'd put him a few tiers higher
Yes but you have to kill like 60000 enemies for it to work so is it really that useful?
I always used Vince because of how cool he looked
my prignial team was cloud RedXIII and cid because they are cool ! I didn't knew you can have vincent ...
my favortie ff7 character
vince
I'm sorry but I can't respect anybody who says aries? She's not the God of war
Loved the video! FFVII is without one of the greatest games of all time along with one of the best in the series! I agree that Cait Sith does have mediocre stats in most categories, though he has the 3rd highest Magic Stat along with Vincent with each of them moving up to 2nd place after Aeris leaves and both have the 2nd highest Spirit stat! Cait Sith's limit breaks are difficult, but learning the pattern and practicing timing will allow one to use his Game Over limit to one shot all enemies in the game!
Cloud, Barrett and Red 13 was my team.
Same
Cloud, Vincent, cid, my team
Cloud, Yuffie, and I’d switch back and forth between Tifa and Vincent
Same
I constantly switched my team to fit the story/objective. I think it’s kinda lame to just pick 3 and run with it. You don’t need to really
It should be mentioned that because Barret/Yuffie/Vincent use ranged weapons, they can be placed in the back row for half damage while still performing full damage to opponents.
well anyone can be placed in the back row with the "long range materia"
@dan haden Although that's true, you'll probably only have one Long Range materia for most of the game. So not everyone will be able to use it, just one character (probably Cloud). So if the other two party members are naturally long ranged, your entire team can fight in the back row.
@@fancyesquire8888 well I am a grinder and FF7 fanatic and usually get omnislash in disc 1 so by the time i am in disc 2 i already have 2 long range materia 1for Cloud and 1 for cid but I really have no use for them because the fights are never that long,but still they are good for those annoying fights were you cant reach the enemy.
Something worth remembering I think is that outside of the super bosses you can really just use whoever you want. Is Cait Sith optimal? Definitely not. But this isn't a challenging game in general so it doesn't matter too much. :)
7:51, not true, Red XIII is the fastest
8:45 while he can share clouds 100 base attack stat it's not exactly true since he can have at minimum of 94 at level 99 while cloud's minimum is 98
10:39 also not true, he shares Aerith's high magic stat that can reach maximum of 100 for both black and white magic stats or at bare minimum 98 if for black arts or 93 for white arts.
Spirit isn't even what white magic use in this game, it's just magic defense, so Cloud can have a minimum of 98 for both kind of magics.
I love that Death Joker instantly fills up everybody's limit gauges.
i love cait sith
There is a way around it and it's kind of game-breaking. If you use Phoenix with Final Attack materia, then you will strike back harder than the Empire.
In-universe, limit breaks are tied to anger level. So the party members get furious that Cait Sith just killed them lol
@@devaughnsalter7379 that's literally the most perfect phrase ever I'm stealing it
The coolest characters are barrett and cid. A toxically masculine black guy and a toxically masculine white guy. Now we have four metrosexuals in a car in ffxv. Barret and Sid would have finished that quest in a few hours
Theres nothing toxic about them.
Right but in this day and age, theyd be called that.
Cid abuses that girl all the time and barrett is always angry lol. They would def be considered toxic by the standards of today
@@thehater6189 yeah but today's standards are shit so...
@@thehater6189 Lightning from XIII goes the extra mile and physically strikes the members of her cast, and yet nobody complain about that.
Air-eese? Who pronounces her name like that? Thanks, I hate it! lol
The best team would be Cloud, Barret, and Yuffie for battling
It’s better to go with Barret over Cid because Barret’s ultimate weapon is much stronger provided he has a materia setup with a lot of high AP materia
Moreover, he’s free to use his MP however he wants while Cid wants to keep his MP filled up
Barret’s Angermax also charges up much faster than Cid’s Highwind whilst dealing a similar (if not higher depending on the weapon/materia setup) amount of damage
Yuffie is also chosen over Cid for similar reasons. Her ultimate weapon scales damage depending on the opponent’s level, so you’re always guaranteed to have max power against high-level opponents. Basically, you’ll have high power when you need it, you won’t have it when you don’t. Her Doom of the Living also charges up faster that Highwind meaning you’ll get more uses out of it
Cloud, Cid, Yuffie is best only for Materia grinding since they have high growth weapons
DaenQuinn by that point in the game, you should already have plenty of high level materia, so loading him up with up with materia should be no issue. This is really only an issue if you don’t want to take the time to grind materia
Cid’s higher magic stat doesn’t matter when you’re supposed to be keeping him at max MP to ensure max physical damage output. Cid is not meant to be your spell caster, that’s Cloud’s job
That said, Barret can leave all the spell casting to both Cloud and Yuffie while also being able to use his own MP for support spells if necessary
Barret’s Angermax has the same amount of hits as Cid’s Highwind and also comes with the benefit of charging up faster due to being a level 3 limit. Assuming both Barret and Cid are hitting at 9999 with each hit, this makes Barret better because he’ll be able to use his limit more often whilst dealing the exact same amount of damage
Barret is also bulkier with the highest HP in the game. Giving him Cover combined with his high physical defense stat (also highest in the game) will allow him to tank all of the physical blows that are targeted towards his teammates. It synergies especially well with Cloud with his Ultima Weapon equipped since Cloud wants to keep his HP as high as possible
Barret is far from useless and even if you believe him to he so he’s still not as bad as someone like Cait Sith
DaenQuinn you’re assuming I’m equipping Barret with magic materia and planning to use him as a mage
You don’t have to equip magic materia onto him (you have 4 different materia types after all) and, even if you do, you don’t necessarily have to use the spells they give you. You can literally just equip the materia for the stat increases. Look at the KotR setup for example
Angermax is weaker if Barret is not dealing max damage with every hit that’s true. Barret still has Catastrophe though and Catastrophe’s damage output is very close to Highwind only being about 12% weaker (Catastrophe max damage after all hits are added is 12.25 x base, Highwind max damage after all hits are added is 12.375 x base)
Cloud doesn’t wanna be a magic caster either, but since has the highest magic stat (not counting Aerith of course) he’s the one who will have to be stuck with spell casting. Both Barret and Cid do more physical damage than him anyways as long as their weapons are setup properly
The master materia should only go to the designated spell caster. As I said before, Barret doesn’t necessarily need to have it. Hell, he shouldn’t have it at all on his Missing Score because the master materia are among the few materia that don’t add to Barret’s power
Enemy skills still use up MP, so Cid doesn’t make for a good enemy skill user either. Barret, however, can still be used to cast the defensive skills such as big guard while Cloud or Yuffie focus all their MP on launching nuke spells like Ultima
I love Cid, but I prefer the overall versatility that Barret provides
Other note I forgot to mention: the higher Spirit stat doesn’t matter in earlier versions of the game where Magic Defense doesn’t work, so that’s something else to consider
Vincent's death penalty is also one of the strongest final weapons if maxed out since it auto kills nearly every enemy in the game, Including bosses thanks to the overflow glitch.
I am the only person I know that got Great Gospel IRL. I also got Ominslash on disc 1 which some people argued with me on the internet wasn't possible!
Hmmm. I subbed... but Vincent and Barret can kill things in one hit with overflow. Also Yuffie can morph at full power. I think Cloud is 4th tbh. Top tier. The aforementioned characters GODS. Yes it takes time, but the point here was how high the ceiling can go :) and swap Cid for Barret. Barret and Yuffies best LBs are LVL3. So they come faster. No one touches Tifa tho early game. She can solo/speed run and w/o boosters she does waaaaay more damage with everyone if you grind her LBs. Her slots become muscle memory and she kinda breaks the game until you can get Cloud back after Mideel. Still a good list. And this game can still be beaten with just the attack button so I had to nerd out naturally
Thanks for the sub! Good feedback.
@@locloudanerpg anytime!
That part (where you don't have Cloud) def worth mentioning 👌
@@geniet9542 cursed ring(s) go hard af
I rotate between Cid Yuffi Tifa Nanaki
Now Aerith is probably the best character in the remake because of arcane ward + spells. I get 8k damage on some bosses with her
Seriously though. She's completely broken with that skill.
IN fact, magic is just plain broken. It's insane how powerful it is.
Yep, I took down sephiroth on hard mode in less than 5 mins or so with arcane magic up elemental and the highest blizzard spell
Caith sith is good for 777 speed run set up
no you didn't dude
If you hack Aerith back in the party with game genie, you'd find her God tier with that support ability. Consider Fury Brand with omnislash and highwind...or invincibility for the whole team.
Most of the info in this video is wrong. I don't know where you obtained your info on stat growth but stat growth tables are available on the fandom wiki. Cait sith is tied for highest HP with barret. His magic stat is equal to vincent. Yuffie has the highest luck stat but that's not very useful because luck growth is low for all and you must source farm to boost it. Steal and manipulate are not based on dex...steal is based on level. Tifa is tied for lowest magic stat with barret and cid. Red 13 stats are not comparable to cloud. His speed is comparable to yuffie and tifa. Cloud's magic stat is second best in game besides aeris, he surpasses cait sith and vincent and he's tied for highest str with barret cid and tifa. No mention of barrets missing score weapon which easily makes his physical damage best in game. You really should either take this video down or at the very least post a correct version
Just seen this video myself and I have to agree with you 100%. Nothing on powersoul or overflow glitch, or how broken cait sith is when you know how to manipulate his limit.
I used cloud red Xlll and yuffie
I always use Vincent, but I will admit his limit breaks irritate me. If they could have just made it so you could control him or at least give him a revert option! Because once he transforms and you find out it's not good for the fight, you're stuck unless you kill this man and can bring him back to life and it's just so frustrating.
My team is cloud yuffie and cid. This party is powerful and fun. Sorry my english.
Pd: yuffie's last weapon is the best, because she hit more/ lvl enemies
Very interested to see what improvements they make to characters like Vincent and Cait Sith in the remake
Me too. Cait Sith especially.
i really wanna use vincent
feel like yuffie should be number 3 instead of barret just because of morph+conformer trick
I beat the game with Caitsith in the main party twice
In the remake tifa and cloud are god tier my original ff7 team is cloud, tifa and yuffie swapping the latter with cid or red depending on if its early or late game.
Aerith is at this tier because after that event?🤨
Honestly Tifa and Cait Sith are underrated here. Their limit breaks are some of the strongest in the game, and while they do use slots, it's very easy to abuse the slots and guarantee you get what you want. The only one that is difficult is the instant kill on some enemies with Cait Sith's slots, but if I remember right there is a workaround that let's you use it when you're not supposed to be able to. Shout out to Yuffie for having one of the most influential glitches tied to her in the PC port though.
barret can also be manipulated into not only your shield (high defense/HP) but simultaneously your healer! I know it sounds weird since his magic stat sucks but grind those magic sources baby! My go to party is cloud, yuffie, and barret !
I really thought Yuffie would be number one on the list, simply because of how absolutely broken conformer is, he can do quad 9s so early and combine with doom of the living and her speed she is an absolute DPS queen, yeah if youre talking pure end game optimization maybe others can catch up to conformer. Cool to see that my team ive always used every since the game came out you have as the most optimal team though, Yuffie Cloud Cid is god tier.
Yuffie was easily the most powerful in the original. Her limit break hit far more times than omnislash and Yuffie could deal 9999 just like cloud.
Yuffie has a lot more utility than Barrett. Also has a double weapon with 4 slots that can use blue abilities
I just have Nanaki (you can call him Red XIII) in my party the whole game and rip Sephiroth a new one each time. He'll take Cloud, Tifa or Barret along just for fun but but he's got this.
Nanaki and Tifa ftw 👍👍 they're both interesting, likable characters that add way more depth to the game 🤗
I wanted to like ff8 after playing ff7 way back, but the gf system suked, shoulda stuck w materia
FF8 is trash
my team usually is Cloud, Barret and Vincent or Cloud, Yuffie and Vincent
Cat is also a great mage and at the end of the day he is a character based in probabilities, i dont understand why ppl have so much hate for such a creative character, cat sith is not a main character but definetly covering that funny character very well, i love it. It is like Quina in ff 9
Can't disagree more.. Cait Sith is #1
His magic stat is the same as vincent (highest except Aeris and Cloud who both you can't choose so arguably don't count), but unlike Vincent, Cait Sith actually gets good weapons for magic (gets an 8 slot matiria weapon on disk 1). That makes him the best mage in the game, and the best choice to abuse enemy skill, so even without his broken god-tier limit break he's still a good character.
More importantly however, his Slots limit is simply god-tier. If you take the time to actually learn how to use it, it's a win fight button. There are tutorials here on youtube (GarlandTheGreat has a good one) that can explain it better.
Oh also, you said Cloud has low magic stat, that's wrong, he has second highest, only just behind Aeris. Cloud overall has the best stats, the only reason he's not better than Cait Sith is because of how broken and abusable Slots is.
Remember Vincent can overflow with the death penalty
I mean, if we're going off of straight one-shots, Cait Sith wins every time. His one-hit KO is manipulatable and you can get it every time. Also, Vincents Overflow glitch takes unreasonably too long to set up. More reliably and easier (debatably faster too). is to run away from 1111 battles, cast Chocomog on yourself when you have max HP(It's damage is based how much you've run away). This will make your health exactly 7777, which causes that character to deal 7777 damage 64 times. This setup will remain useable every battle till you run away again, which you won't ever need to do again. You can get max hp faster by buying a bunch of HP plus materia.
@@Zerossoul Sephiroth is best party member
That Aerith joke made me frown lol
I think the best character is that dude in a cave that just sleeps throughout the whole game
Seeing as though he help get aeriths final limit... this is the secret right answer
I actually made Barret my healer/Paladin in my playthrough, his high health made it so that I could slot plenty of magic materia without him becoming too squishy or needing to balance it out with more attack buffing materia, plus the healer needs more survivability since when they go down it signals the death spiral of the party.
1:11 It's levioSAAA!!! (hope oney followers get this LOL). Love your video man!!! And the chocobo sound at the S*** tier killed me! :D :D
Tifa is Gof Tier for me. She killed Safer Sephiroth with her limit break on the 1st move my 1st time finishing the game
the best thing about FFVII is that you can take a bad stat character - like Barret (I'll explain) - and make them into a massive asset to the team with the right materia combinations.
I tend to place Red with Cloud in my stats and I usually use him or Yuffie in my team with one other...yes, Tifa. For obvious reasons. Her Limit Breaks of course, if you get them 100% right you've got the best Limit in the game bar none.
I tend to place Barret at the bottom for his low magic stats and lower than average HP with abysmal Limit Breaks, Mind Blow - I know no one who ever used that limit - and he is terrible at Matiera Growth.
Cid, cloud, redXIII is always my go to setup
Same here!
Same, my first playthrough was with them and their ultimate weapons. I had minimal guide usage too. Great game 👍
Same, all 3 in my opinion do attack, magic, and survival well. My first play through I went with this team till the end, once I got them all.
That said, this is one of the few games where you cant really go wrong with any of the “permanent” character (except Cait Sith).
Wth is black and white mage?
In this game? Nothing at all, it's just magic, but in most final fantasy it means the magic used by wizards (black magic) and the magic used by healers (white magic). Usually people think it means attacking magic (black magic) and healing magic (white magic), but black magic have also suport spells (like sleep or dispel) and white magic have attacking spells (like Holy) and suport spells (like barrier)
I agree with the beginning part, people who have the game just scream NOSTALGIA over and over without going into detail. You really can't won with them, FFVII haters are like Freddy Krueger he has a different weaknesses each time but always comes back. For example when people say it only got popular because of FMVs, if you say "then why didn't all those Turbo Grafx CD and Sega CD games not get popular? Those even had voice acting." They'll reply with "see another way it wasn't as influential as fanboys claim".
Also unrelated but Ys and The Legend of Heroes only took off in the west when they stopped using voice.acting and FMVs.
if anything ff6 is overrated
was always a Nanaki and Vincent guy.
Best rpg ever I don’t give a damn. Ff6 doesn’t come close tbh. It was fun til wor then it’s boring af
Abusing Yuffie's Conformer weapon and Morph materia has to be mentioned. She can break the game open as soon as you get the submarine.
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Powersoul (Double Materia Growth) + Curse Ring = God tier for Tifa. Give her critical health, couterattack, and slash-all and what the chaos ensue.
i used Cloud for physical attacks, Vincent for magical attacks & Tifa for healing
6:24 yup.
Only one answer not cat sh*t........ After finishing the video my normal party was the top three cloud,cid, Barrett just my favorite characters best weapons i love great sword and spear and losing an arm and adding a gun that responds to you is just fu****g cool.... period
I love to use Cloud, Tifa and Vincent.
Yuffie's ultimate weapon morphing is ridiculously useful late game when you want to farm sources and her ultimate weapon damage is far more consistent than Cloud and Cid.
Yes it is SUPREMELY Ridiculous how her Ultimate Weapon Morphing useful
Cid's can be super-consistent: Just don't cast spells with him.
I can't believe someone put Aerith in sh*t tier and Caith motherfracking Sh*t!!! is only bad tier
although you can destroy everything in the game with him IT TAKES HUNDREDS OR THOUSANDS OF ATTEMPTS
Cloud was actually not just my damage dealer but also my physical tank with Cover, long Range and Counter Attack. It simply makes sense considering how much damage he can deal. HP Plus to round it off of course. 4xCut and Slash All are also must haves on him of course. Though you might wanna give them to Vincent too if you have him on your party. Though usually I just spam Deathblow with him. I totally agree with your opitmal party though. Cloud would be a must have regardless of wether he is the main character or not. But Barrett/Yuffie and Cid are pretty much interchangeable. Yuffie and Barrett of course do have the long range benefit over Cid. But for max damage, Cloud, Barret and Cid sure are the way to go. But for everyone who wants their fav to be on his team. Just take him. This game is pretty easy and can be beat with everyone without too much trouble. The optimal party is only really needed for the Weapons.
Cid is the best in FF7.
I expected Cait Sith to be on the shit tier but not Aerith. Sure she isn't around long enough to warrant picking her as a party member but if you ignore this, she'd actually be god tier on my list. The only other party member I might have put on the shit tier list would be vincent because of his limit breaks but he does have some redeeming qualities. Like an almost guaranteed Deathblow hit. I'd have put Tifa in the low tier as well because of how annoying her limit break is. Not only is it only viable when you put the ATB on wait, you still have to hit the slots at the right time. Trust me, I wouldn't put her in low tier if I didn't think she was that bad because to me she is the best Final Fantasy girl, the ultimate FF waifu. The rest of the tiers were obvious. Cid and Barret because of ther damage and limit breaks. And Cloud because of his overall great stats and access to the best attack in the entire game, Omnislash. Only Knights of the Round can match Omnislash after all.
What actually makes Vincent a vampire? Sure he has the aesthetic and is first found inside a coffin. However, I've never seen him drink blood.
Cloud Barret & Cid everytime
I usually give everyone established jobs and a summon each:
Cloud = Warrior/Time Mage
Aerith = Sage
Tifa = Monk
Barret = Warrior
Red = White Mage
Yuffie = Thief
Cait Sith = Blue Mage
Vincent = Black Mage
Cid = Dragoon
Red XIII is kinda interesting if you view him as the game’s Red Mage. If this had classes, that would be him.
What's the differences between the different color mages?
@@onmas909
White: healing support
black: DPS (and debuff ?)
red: mix white and black (jack of all trade)
White is heals
Black is damage
Red is a mid level white and black mage as well as a novice warrior
Blue mage uses enemy magics
Green is status effects and other support
Arcane normally has the offensive spells black mage doesn't.
I think thats all of em
@@bronysaiyan5236 ohh hooray! This is really gud information
@@onmas909 my favorite mix is Red and Blue. Red uses Rapiers and Blue mages use Scimitars. Both have decent melee skills but theyre def the most versatile mages so you can do everything as those 2
I'm sorry, how did you pronounce "lunatic"??? LunAtic?? That's not even a made up word, it's a word in English, how did you get that wrong??
Only problem with your list is its wrong. Yuffie is the strongest character. Max her out 15x9999 damage is the strongest attack over omnislash and knights of the round.
Putting Cid above Barret was stupid, especially with the reasons given. Missing Score is more reliable since it's based on the AP in materia (and it can even overflow for on hit kills, though I guess including bugs is debatable), and angermax actually does more damage than Highwind against single targets (which means most big end-game bosses). Also considering that you get your limits a lot more often if they are set lower, angermax is made even more optimal and that even bumps Red XIII up a few levels since Stardust is really good.
Plus the triple growth weapons are generally worse than the 4 slotted double growth weapons. You can argue apocalypse is better because 3 x 3 = 9 vs 4x2 =8, but Cid's only has two slots, so that's only 6 materia worth of growth. Tifa's motor drive and Yuffie's Rising Sun are actually the best weapons in the game for materia growth on account of being double growth weapons with 6 slots.
Cid is an auto pick for the only other triple materia growth weapon
I’m not sure I agree with this list in it’s entirety.
Cait Sith’s limit breaks can actually be manipulated, so it puts him FAR higher on the list. The same goes for Tifa, although to be honest in her case it’s a lot more trouble than it’s worth, so her being lower is alright.
Vincent might actually be worse than Aerith in normal gameplay, if only because you literally can’t control him once his limit goes off, making him tricky to play with.
This one is platform specific, but you can smuggle Aerith into the latter parts of the game if you wait to pick up Yuffie until after she dies, and do a specific version of the Yuffie Warp Glitch.
CID’s triple growth weapon isn’t really useful, because it only has two slots. That means it has six slots of growth potential. By contrast, all characters have four slot, double growth weapons, which grants eight slots of growth. You could also use an eight slot weapon, but it’s not as fast at growing individual materia.
I usually rate Barret higher than Cid. He, Vincent and Yuffie all have long-range weapons, which means they can safely hang out in the back row and take half damage for very little opportunity cost (though Vincent and Cloud are interchangeable, depending on what you’re trying to do…).
Nanaki is the best overall support character, when you factor in the Limits he can use and his decent magic stats.
Tifa has some very cool weapon mechanics that can’t be ignored, though! Giving her a Curse Ring with the right weapon (power soul is solid, and Master fist is extremely versatile as well) can give you a solid damage boost!
Ok, lol! CID is even better than just his triple growth weapon... he gets the only double growth weapon with 5 slots!!! Making cloud and cid the only characters with the ability to grow material at a faster rate than the equivalent of 8 materia at one time (think double growth with 4 slots = 8 total slots of growth in FF7) so clouds Apocalypse with 3, 3x slots is = to 9 total materia growth while cids double growth weapon with 5 slots is = to 10 total slots of 1x materia growth. Make sense?.. basically Cids triple growth weapon has two slots, so while better for quickly mastering a specific materia it’s not the most efficient weapon he has for materia growth over all!
Great video tho!
Agree with the mid tier and lower, and the order of them, too.
I would re-arrange the top four characters somewhat, though. God Tier would be Barret and Cid, in that order. Both have 18-hit limit breaks, but Barret's is a Lv. 3, which thus charges up faster than Cid's.
Yuffie and Cloud, in that order, would be Top Tier right below Barret/Cid. Both have 15-hit limit breaks, but Yuffie ranks slightly higher because hers is a Lv. 3, again charging up faster than Cloud's.
If you're more casual (a.k.a. not min-maxing) then I could see putting Cid and Cloud, in that order, ahead of Barret and Yuffie, as CId/Cloud are much easier to actually max their damage at 9999 per hit on their limit breaks even on a casual playthrough.
Actually I think this list might be completely wrong for true endgame, assuming all characters with max stats. Assuming max stats id wager spamming 4x slash or slash all out dps's Knights of the Round because of its super long attack animation. Assuming max speed and str a character can probably attack more then 13 times before knights of the round finishes. So in reality the real ranking is which character has the quickest attack animation.
>The only thing Cloud is lacking is a high magic stat
Dude... what? He's literally number 2 behind Aerith.
Edgar should be higher, when you first get the drill with minimal investment he can easily do thousands of damage for no mp
Truly LOL @ Training Aerith.
I’m surprised you didn’t include Sephiroth from his playable moment.
Just recently played ff7 OG and in the Shinra tower the first time you can find a megaphone in Reeves Locker... blew my mind. All these years and that little Easter egg can be found before leaving Midgar after the plate drops.. the game told us Cait was a spy that early.. wow
Holy shit I'm replaying orginal and noticed that too! Loved remake, sad it's not fully story but orginal is so fun replaying
It's also his best weapon, IIRC.
Goddammit, Reeves! Why didn't you give it to your toy if you already had it!
Bruh Lun-neh-tic high really? Loon-a-tic
Crap Tier
1:50 Aerith
2:58 Cait Sith
Low Tier
4:23 Vincent
Mid Tier
5:29 Tifa
6:41 Red XIII
Top Tier
7:46 Yuffie
8:31 Barret
9:17 Cid
S Tier
10:26 Cloud
11:19 Optimal Party
Cloud, Cid, and Yuffie
Or switch out Yuffie for Barret if you're planning to max out stats for each character which should not be that hard if you look up "Source Farming" and because Angermax is just stronger than Doom of the Living if you max out your Strength and Luck
He done said Aries 🤣🤣🤣
It's AERIS... Or Aerith is fine too
Thanks for that i knew i needed to change something I been giving cloud all tha badass materia like it's gonna go somewhere 😂
Tifa's unltimate weapon being based on her limit gauge being full should costs her a tier
Yuffie is best late game DPS once she has the Conformer, every time she sneezes on a high lvl enemy it's quad-nine damage
FFS she's not the Greek God of War....Air-iss...NOT air (multiple e's)
Yuffie should be God tier. Everyone seems to not understand how strong she is. Conformer weapon is super broken. And she can heal herself with limits. So basically solo all end game bosses at low level.
I read a ScreenRant article where they said that Vincent is the second best because he "looks so cool". God I hate that website.