This was the perfect conversation I was looking for. You know when you finish a trilogy and don’t know that to do with your life. This is what you need to achieve that finality
The book is not finished bro..Pls read the continuation by Baoshu. It feels as much a part of the Trilogy. And me after completing all four, I am at a total loss on what to do with life..Will i ever find anything better to read????
I like this author because his novels are like simulations. He first gave some abstract but incredible conditions from physics, math, or social system. Then he just ran the simulation. In the simulation many charming phenomena happened making my brain breaking the common sense down and making new connections based off the abstract conditions.
Thank you guys! I’ve read book 1 and 2 and really needed some insight into the virtual reality game part. I searched everywhere online and luckily found this podcast!
The movie The Wandering Earth (originally Cixin Liu's novel) is on now, it's a really good scifi movie, considered the most successful Chinese scifi movie ever, highly recommend you guys check it out~😄
Was certainly a pretty groundbreaking series. Really heavy material both in terms of social commentary and some of the cosmological unsettling philosophies of the 'silent' universe we are currently observing in the real world, as we try to decide what that means.
That human computer 😱 love to see how visualise it in a cinematic translation. The whole series is full of chapters that are mindblowing. How they’ll translate to them to 2d ;) really i’m excited to watch them try. & if they succeed 🤯 #veryexcited for the movie/series adoption
I think the whole idea of a nanofiber was that it was a precursory tech to more advanced "strong entanglement" particle materials, of which the droplet was an example. The second thing, regarding the human computer, I think it was a representation of how the trisolarian civilization could easily turn their communication mode into a kind of a supercomputer. In a way, they could think as an individual and as a hive mind.
My understanding of the difference between “hard and soft” sci-fi is that hard sci-fi is usually based in a pretty thorough and grounded understanding of physics and science (orbital dynamics, acceleration and deceleration, thermodynamics) and uses that to inform the story and themes whereas soft sci-fi can take an almost fantastical approach to its concepts and world and use that to play with ideas and themes that wouldn’t otherwise be possible (hyperion, dune)
So the dark forest answer to the Fermi paradox is extremely pessimistic. Honestly speaking it is the only one I dred being the actual answer . Makes sense that a book series based on it would be also
Absolutely wonderful discussion the biggest draw back was the varying vocal levels the two voices are too quiet compared to the ear shattering decibels of the one host. Great video but the audio levels were whack and very difficult to keep along when one guy is screaming and the others are talking
Hi late reply as I just finished the series, it seems as though dnd have source material they can produce a workable series adaptions, just don't ever let them try and write their own material.
Just finished all three. Excellent expanding storyline. My favorite part was the short section involving some unknown(?) entity named Singer that used a two dimension weapon. As far as I could tell there was no further explanation who / what this entity was. Section text was creepy scary.
Nanowire isn't exactly impossible, but it is impossible in the context of this story, we are talking about abou a planet fundamentally fkd in quantum physics, so the problem here is: they would be able to make a nanowire?
It's because our Sun alone counts for 99.8% of the mass in the entire Solar System, plus we always use the Sun as the rest frame of all the planets' movement in the Solar System. And, the reality reference of the three-body world: Alpha Centauri, although it's a three-body system, the Proxima Centauri is much smaller than the other two. So they are not really doing a three-body movement but rather a two-body one.
I thought that calling the book "The Three Body Problem" and calling the VR game "Three Body" was a bit of a spoiler. The minute he landed in that alien landscape where it had chaotic era and stable era I knew immediately what was causing it because I knew what the three body problem was from physics. In fact I thought the main character was a little slow to catch on to the fact they were in a three sun environment. Other topic the Cultural Revolution… Even though I'm 65 years old and was alive and fairly politically aware as a teenager in the late 60s early 70s I knew very little about Chinese history doing that time period. I would recommend readers take a look at a Wikipedia article or two about the Chinese Cultural Revolution
I would like to say that Three Body Problem is a metaphor and not just the specific system of the Trisolarians (spoiler) 😂 but the series is so so much ore than the trisolarian problem, it’s about the himan condition which tries to find balance in a system that is unpredictable- THAT is the three body problem if u ask me
@@vikenmekhtarian trying to find order in free will...we can't control free will...we fear it...yet we don't want to give it up guarantee that liu cixin is a big fan of leto II the god emporer story in dune which is by far the best part of the dune saga
I got through 47% of the Three Body Problem and just could not go on. My conclusion is it's tedious, boring, wordy, and the characters implausible. And I like science fiction.
@@hebeusuthu8143 I also disliked Marcel Proust's Remembrance of Things Past, but that is considered a classic.I don't like Dr Seuss books either. I Really like Where the Wild Things Are. I love Nietzsche's Also Sprach Zarathrustra but only the Kaufman translation. The others suck. Need I go on? Clearly you gave enough of a shit to reply to my comment. My lady doth protest too much. I don't like Shakespeare either and blah, blah, blah.
@@ZappninLLP Well, give yourself a big literary pat on the back. Or maybe you deserve a quick handy instead. Mighty impressed with yourself. Everybody else, not so much.
This was the perfect conversation I was looking for. You know when you finish a trilogy and don’t know that to do with your life. This is what you need to achieve that finality
The book is not finished bro..Pls read the continuation by Baoshu. It feels as much a part of the Trilogy. And me after completing all four, I am at a total loss on what to do with life..Will i ever find anything better to read????
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I like this author because his novels are like simulations. He first gave some abstract but incredible conditions from physics, math, or social system. Then he just ran the simulation. In the simulation many charming phenomena happened making my brain breaking the common sense down and making new connections based off the abstract conditions.
Thank you guys! I’ve read book 1 and 2 and really needed some insight into the virtual reality game part. I searched everywhere online and luckily found this podcast!
What do you need to know. It is essentially a civilization/simulation of life on Trisolarian
The ant was a surprising POV character.
Brilliant
Hell yeah man! Just finished the trilogy and am happy to hear y'all's thoughts. I guess BOOK CLUBS RULE!
The movie The Wandering Earth (originally Cixin Liu's novel) is on now, it's a really good scifi movie, considered the most successful Chinese scifi movie ever, highly recommend you guys check it out~😄
insane movie. loved it
Yeah I just finished watching it, very cool movie
Cool movie indeed
Was certainly a pretty groundbreaking series. Really heavy material both in terms of social commentary and some of the cosmological unsettling philosophies of the 'silent' universe we are currently observing in the real world, as we try to decide what that means.
THANK YOU for making this! I was a little put off by all the science and afraid I wouldn't understand most of the book, but I'm ordering a copy today.
love the podcast! rereading 3Body for the third time, now at DARK FOREST wow wow wow !!!!
haha! was it hard to finish the rest? no, super convinient.
That human computer 😱 love to see how visualise it in a cinematic translation. The whole series is full of chapters that are mindblowing. How they’ll translate to them to 2d ;) really i’m excited to watch them try. & if they succeed 🤯 #veryexcited for the movie/series adoption
I think the whole idea of a nanofiber was that it was a precursory tech to more advanced "strong entanglement" particle materials, of which the droplet was an example.
The second thing, regarding the human computer, I think it was a representation of how the trisolarian civilization could easily turn their communication mode into a kind of a supercomputer. In a way, they could think as an individual and as a hive mind.
My understanding of the difference between “hard and soft” sci-fi is that hard sci-fi is usually based in a pretty thorough and grounded understanding of physics and science (orbital dynamics, acceleration and deceleration, thermodynamics) and uses that to inform the story and themes whereas soft sci-fi can take an almost fantastical approach to its concepts and world and use that to play with ideas and themes that wouldn’t otherwise be possible (hyperion, dune)
Yes. Ther person who loaned me the 1st booked covered the back so I couldn't see it. She insisted that I go in blind. Thank you for that, Ellen!
Wish you had learned the names of the characters, I am in need of that before I start part two! Cheers
It's a bit sad that seems few people talk about the "universe flickering" scene in the book. That's the wildest thing in the 1st book for me.
That was Sofan tampering with the expression of the cosmic microwave background interference ;)
I think that you guys need to go into more detail about these books because there is so much more that you did not cover that I want to know about.
So the dark forest answer to the Fermi paradox is extremely pessimistic. Honestly speaking it is the only one I dred being the actual answer . Makes sense that a book series based on it would be also
wow！ finishing the second and third book within 26 hours！
Absolutely wonderful discussion the biggest draw back was the varying vocal levels the two voices are too quiet compared to the ear shattering decibels of the one host. Great video but the audio levels were whack and very difficult to keep along when one guy is screaming and the others are talking
How do people feel about D&D handling a netflix adaption of this series?
Hi late reply as I just finished the series, it seems as though dnd have source material they can produce a workable series adaptions, just don't ever let them try and write their own material.
you guys, i need to keep up.
Just finished all three. Excellent expanding storyline. My favorite part was the short section involving some unknown(?) entity named Singer that used a two dimension weapon. As far as I could tell there was no further explanation who / what this entity was. Section text was creepy scary.
I'm all ears.....hope I do not regret buying the books......
Nanowire isn't exactly impossible, but it is impossible in the context of this story, we are talking about abou a planet fundamentally fkd in quantum physics, so the problem here is: they would be able to make a nanowire?
The Solar System is a multi - body system but the movements of most of the bodies are extremely predictable.
Why is this?
It's because our Sun alone counts for 99.8% of the mass in the entire Solar System, plus we always use the Sun as the rest frame of all the planets' movement in the Solar System. And, the reality reference of the three-body world: Alpha Centauri, although it's a three-body system, the Proxima Centauri is much smaller than the other two. So they are not really doing a three-body movement but rather a two-body one.
@@changshengli8887
Extraordinary that all the extra - solar mass is a minor rounding error.
@@alanpennie8013 Agreed, yet human hubris maintains otherwise
I thought that calling the book "The Three Body Problem" and calling the VR game "Three Body" was a bit of a spoiler. The minute he landed in that alien landscape where it had chaotic era and stable era I knew immediately what was causing it because I knew what the three body problem was from physics. In fact I thought the main character was a little slow to catch on to the fact they were in a three sun environment. Other topic the Cultural Revolution… Even though I'm 65 years old and was alive and fairly politically aware as a teenager in the late 60s early 70s I knew very little about Chinese history doing that time period. I would recommend readers take a look at a Wikipedia article or two about the Chinese Cultural Revolution
Yeah, me too.
Maybe something like "the Sophon Solution", could've been better?
I would like to say that Three Body Problem is a metaphor and not just the specific system of the Trisolarians (spoiler) 😂 but the series is so so much ore than the trisolarian problem, it’s about the himan condition which tries to find balance in a system that is unpredictable- THAT is the three body problem if u ask me
@@vikenmekhtarian Spoiler warnings need to go before the spoiler, idjit
@@vikenmekhtarian trying to find order in free will...we can't control free will...we fear it...yet we don't want to give it up
guarantee that liu cixin is a big fan of leto II the god emporer story in dune which is by far the best part of the dune saga
i need chinese，please help me
This series left a mark on my soul.
Just like Peter Watts' Starfish/Rifters series.
My heart broke when they ended
Hoping the next one will be better reviewed the loud guy really drew me out of the discussion talking over people with the wrong information yikes
The direction Sci-Fy has gone for the past 10+ yrs......any improvement will not need to be too spectacular to be welcome......
Such a good story about a cow on a train reck
Such a good story about a cow on a train reck
Yeet
You read two of these books in 26 hours?! Are you a Sophon? 🫖🍵
Id totally marry a sophon
I think hard scifi is "technology pushing plot" soft scifi is "society pushing plot". so I think all of them are "hard", the 2nd and 3rd are "harder"
May I ask why you would make that distinction? I mean, they aren't mutually exclusive, like the dichotomy would suggest.
Matt’s audio sounds awful , like he’s in a submarine. Good show otherwise
I got through 47% of the Three Body Problem and just could not go on. My conclusion is it's tedious, boring, wordy, and the characters implausible. And I like science fiction.
skip the parts u don’t like, the plot is worth it
@@vikenmekhtarian Thanks Viken, based on your recommendation I will give it another shot.
I appreciate your very specific point of disliking the book, however I consider myself part of the 96.47% who could give a shit less.
@@hebeusuthu8143 I also disliked Marcel Proust's Remembrance of Things Past, but that is considered a classic.I don't like Dr Seuss books either. I Really like Where the Wild Things Are. I love Nietzsche's Also Sprach Zarathrustra but only the Kaufman translation. The others suck. Need I go on? Clearly you gave enough of a shit to reply to my comment. My lady doth protest too much. I don't like Shakespeare either and blah, blah, blah.
@@ZappninLLP Well, give yourself a big literary pat on the back. Or maybe you deserve a quick handy instead. Mighty impressed with yourself. Everybody else, not so much.
Such a good story about a cow on a train reck
Such a good story about a cow on a train reck