yeah, it might not be S-tier, but it's definitely A or B. I tried Wezterm but went back to Konsole because Wezterm has something weird going with clipboard.
I agree. Or even made an actual voting system so that results could be quantified. The focus on terminals is interesting but this content is just lazy. You couldn't be bothered to try out the ones you didn't know anything about just for a bit??
It is wild to put st in F. For me the best feature of any app is having a simple/minimal base that is easy to extend. I am not even saying it should be S or A but putting it in F shows incompatibility of my taste/preferences with the "chat"
And warp is definitely F for me. So you rated st as F not knowing anything about it based on chat votes, but you have not listened to them for that one...
Hard configured Wezterm so much it just have the keybindings/movements for everything that might require to use TMUX.....even wezterm has inbuilt plugin managers .....im using wezterm-session-manager .....which helps me with the session ......Not great experience but it gets the job done .........I love Rusty product.....Loving Wezterm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Like many others, I was using Kitty for years, but gave WezTerm a try ~6 months ago and never looked back. It has all the features I liked about Kitty, but a much cleaner config with Lua that makes it perfect choice for nvim users. I have been following ghostty progress for a while, so look forward to trying it (I also love Zig), but for now I am definitely a believer in WezTerm.
One problem with all this is that people rate things based on contextual stuff. GNOME terminal and Windows Terminal (which is open source by the way) are examples. People just don't like Windows or the GNOME desktop, but that should not be a valid reason to rate individual things. Another problem is that serious rating should always be done on individual aspects of things, such as performance or the number of features.
foot is the best it has the most features with least amount of ram required, I like to have multiple terminals opened at the same time (cmus, btop, newsboat, lf) and with the daemon/client feature, one foot sever (around 40 Mb in ram) hold all the process, and lightweight clients are served to show them, think tmux sessions but each is a full window on it's own
urxvt also has the same sort of daemon/client feature. On my machine, seems that with 6 terminals open currently, the entire thing is only taking up about 19MB RAM. urxvt is from back when something as simple as a terminal emulator couldn't afford to be more resource-intensive, but foot does seem like a great Wayland-native option, from everything I've heard.
Instead of rating the people behind the terminal or the company or the potential, how about rating the terminals themselves ? You dont have time to install and test them? Sorry but as a youtuber is that not what you have time for? I cant tell if you are trolling to get interaction but this was a little hard to watch. *well played* would love to have seen a mem use comparison in normal use. wezterm, foot and alacritty have big differences in system resource usage.
Number 1 feature every terminal MUST have for me is to support dropdown style like Guake/Yakuake, where I can bind Ctrl+` key to bring it up from anywhere. I can't live without that lol
People are way too negative when it comes to ranking nowadays. Like, why are perfectly good terminals in the lowest tiers Just because they don't "wow" chat? I would think the lower tiers would be reserved for actually bad terminals.
Speaking as somebody who has used Linux since 1992, I really don't think that there is that much difference between terminal emulators, not enough to be worth a lot of trouble.
That's about the same time I started. I remember when rxvt came out and wow, unicode! These days I use Sakura mostly. why? no idea. I just started using it one day and it got the job done for me, so never bothered to change spend time looking for anything else.
This is great except for the Warp terminal. No matter how fancy it is, it shouldn't be in A. I am not sure about an F but definitely not A. Reasons: Requires login to even work, Closed source and ofcourse telemetry. Also you should check out Wave terminal.
That's true, but he was deciding based on the features it has And it was a little biased, because warp donates to foss projects, which makes them more respectable
@@no_name4796 I believe he was quite biased on this one(which he has all the right to be) and decided to brush aside the major flaws of the Warp terminal. He did try to justify this by saying things which shouldn't have affected the objective value of Warp terminal. Why does it matter if Warp supports open source or not when we are discussing the value of the terminal. As for the respect part, Microsoft also supports several open source products but that doesn't make them any more respectful. We should judge a product for what it is and Warp in my personal opinion is not a A-tier terminal. Forget all its other flaws. NO terminal should ever need to be required to be logged in to just get to the interface and use it. Period.
Foot is insanely speedy. Nothing compares. I found wezterm to be slow, kitty to be slow. Like i start typing before terminal appears on the screen and that's bad. Only thing lacking is font ligatures. But i can live with that.
Powershell indeed sucks but Windows Terminal itself is pretty great recently. It recently got a new engine with many features like allows images to be displayed within the terminal. It's not a terminal that should be underestimated because of Windows or PowerShell.
This video feels a bit lazy. I would actually love sole insight or at least table of features to campare them. Perhaps some good some bad atributes. Not just chat kinda randomly sayng aaa yea that one is D for no reason. Othervise i like your content.
I think two very important criteria for good terminal emulators is (1) unicode, ligature and sixel support and (2) input latency. st has some of the best ligature and sixel support, and it also has the lowest input latency among all the X11 terminal emulators I have tested (you need to change a setting for it). I think it's easily the best, especially if you use a simple to configure fork of it like st-flexipatch
While the intent of this video is interesting, it completely falls apart in execution. Many terminals were disregarded simply by saying they don't have any wowing features without ever listing what those are. Even going as far as reading a summary made by AI without checking facts. On the other hand, many terminals were put at the forefront by saying they're great and have many great features, but again which features? Some features were mentioned, like: - Integrated AI assistant - Ligature support - Image rendering - Infinite scrolling - Performance - Panes - Hyperlink support - Special events support (like mouse clicks) But basically none of those were discussed, much less demonstrated. For example, why is it so important for a terminal to be able to render images? What does it mean for a terminal to be performant? And so on and so forth. Anyway. While the video is indeed entertaining thanks to your character, its content is worthless. I rank it F in my tier list.
This is kind of a niche use case/feature, but it's worth mentioning that terminals built with libvte (xfce4-terminal, gnome terminal, terminator, probably a few others) have their own font-independent rendering system for the box drawing/geometric shapes/legacy computing unicode characters so that they always fit perfectly without any gaps, which only really matters if you do text mode art, but it's a big deal if you do text mode art.
Windows terminal is absolutely amazing. What sucks is Window's shells (both dos prompt and powershell), but the terminal app itself is probably the best one there is.
Patching and recompiling for st really isn't that difficult once you do it a couple of times. It really is great once you get it configured just right.
To me the top one is foot terminal. Really good client server architecture. Super light on resources. Ability to set title and class. Really fast. It has everything.
Lol people saying eww to st and rating it an F, and saying meh to foot and rating it a C. With st it's minimal and good for tiling window managers using st-flexipatch you can even use sixel graphics. With foot terminal it's the only good terminal that is still minimal and supports sixel by default. If nobody knows what that is, you can list and display images in the terminal itself no need for extra installation or configs. You can even use lsix and it will list all images and print them directly. If nobody appreciates that then I guess there is no hope for humanity.
iterm2’s ability to provide auto profile switching when logging onto a remote cluster is awesome! When I’m working on 8 different remote clusters … in identical directory structures, as either root or normal user, it’s so nice to instantly know the machine and user of the terminal ! There’s no way to get confused no matter how many times you exit, and log on, or what user you log on as ... The ability to apply a profile AUTOMATICALLY upon logon to a remote system is a MUST for me. I’m new to Linux (Fedora), but, does ANY other terminal in Linux match that one feature ? That one feature alone would place any terminal into the top category for me.
st terminal is actually kinda nice. Sure patching is not for everybody but it does its job of being a simple terminal and actually helped me a lot to have it for work
I don't use it but I'd have to say that foot is S tier. It's at least as fast as kitty/alacritty/wezterm but WITHOUT the use of hardware acceleration. The technology behind it is really cool. Very efficient with system resources. Rock solid terminal.
As a Windows and .NET engineer for over a decade, I could not disagree more with the ranking for the VS Code Terminal. It's a solid B, and Windows Terminal as well. Your best friends are just hating, which I kinda hate Microsoft these days too, but you gotta stay objective and recognize that they still produce some pretty great developer tools. I'm not saying BEST by any means, but still solid and great.
Gnome (Terminal) - UX/UI for tablets should not be used on desktops and laptops with keyboard and mouse. D tier. Warp - THIS IS PAID KEYLOGGER. Donating with logo placement is called advertisement. Online accout required to connect to your intranet ssh devices... What's wrong with you? Wezterm - black screen on wayland. Weird behaviour on pasting text with new lines. B tier. Kitty - ULTRA TOXIC DEVELOPER. Do not report issues if you are not ready to be insulted. Python is not fast. D tier. Alacritty - hang on paste from vim. Issue 9 month without attention Ghostty - closed source. closed beta... I can bet it will be paid. F tier
same. I think the primary use case is what he’s using it for. just viewing what images are what, without relying on another program or relying of file names
Personally I use the windows terminal because it lets you change the background image to a .GIF (most terminals don't support .GIF) or even your desktop wallpaper + UI looks cool + color themes are super easy to add
I haven't tested a lot, always used what was included or recommend. Some day I read abbout GPU accelerated terminals, found 3 opengl powered terminals and took Alacritty from it. It just works for me. Fast as hell and no issues. Maybe because I just start tmux automatically when starting Alacritty. That's the best way for me to have just one dependency on a different machine (tmux) and not have to find myself in tinkering with any shortcuts.
st in F is a violation oh my goodness its basically a terminal that you build on yourself, ontop of dwm, which you build onto yourself, ontop of so on and so on, it's what you make it, and it's amazing
I have to say, configuring st might be the hardest and it ig deserved low ranking but not last! Ik it's a personal preference. Anyway I use st for everyday use since I have a potato pc I have save up my resources for my browser and lsp. St did a great job at that. In my env st uses only 20mb ram. It also supports ALL THE FEATURES (all that i know of and use) of any terminal with least resource usage. But I can assure if I had a better device I'd have used kitty anyday and everyday (kitty isn't supported in my current device). Also Warp deserves a C.
I think windows terminal got shafted a bit, compared to other Linux terminals, it's a bit behind, but some chatters putting WT bellow because of Powershell is a little disingenuous, a terminal emulator shouldn't be reviewed based on what shell it can run, but if it should, Windows Terminal can also use bash, or any UNIX shell for that matter if you run WSL2. Windows isn't a system made to be navigated with just a terminal, but even tho, MS made good, all around terminal, with pretty much every essential feature you would expect from a good terminal emulator, and if you're going to use it for developing in Linux using WSL2, it's works really well. It deserves at least an A.
@@typecraft_dev I think, and I may be wrong on this, but to me it seemed that those saying F, or B, were either memeing, because it's Microsoft, or were Linux users who never used it and were just trashing it, because it's Microsoft. And I get the sentiment, I also hate some of Microsoft's BS even tho I use Windows, but I still have to meet someone who actually uses WT on a daily basis and doesn't like it, it's a vast improvement compared to pure powershell or cmd, it's the best terminal emulator you can have on Windows by a long shot.
Yeah, back before I switched to Linux, I was honestly very happy with Windows Terminal. From the terminals I have personally used: Alacritty > Windows Terminal > Konsole > Gnome terminal
Trying to cut through the noise...which there's a ton of on this topic. I love iTerm2 on macOS because I can simply create a freeform layout, close and restart the app, and everything was persisted and restored without a bunch of configuration, extra packages, etc. I want the tiling terminal for Linux that does this for me and looks good in Gnome. Terminator is a buggy, confusing mess. Tilix comes close but requires manually saving/opening layouts for restoring.
Many of the more advanced features are things I think should be included in the shell rather than in the terminal emulator; any form of autocomplete and fuzzy search feature should be in the shell. I can see that there are potentials for weird bugs if you use a shell with similar features as the terminal emulator.
I mean, Zed also has a terminal that you can open Neovim in... Also, if you notice though, the VS Code emulator is not its own terminal emulator. It hooks into your default terminal emulator (same as Zed). They shouldn't count! Also RIP Konsole for apparently not even making the list lol.
Windows Terminal is actually fantastic. I main pop_os, but when I have to use windows for work, I actually really enjoy it and kind of wish it was available for Linux.
I have compared Alacritty and Kitty among different PC/Linux laptops & desktops & macbooks (intel and Mx) and I find Alacritty faster than Kitty, most of the time, being its own separate process, single tab, no multitab support makes it better for me. However it doesn't support images, I would put Konsole on B+, same as Alacritty.
I really loved wezterm but for whatever reason, for me, it had crazy issues with eating my inputs and random slow downs. Maybe it was an nvidia hardware thing or something. I've been pretty happy with foot ever since I switched though, feels much more lightweight.
I doubt that it's an Nvidia thing. I've used it on AMD (GPU and CPU), Intel (integrated graphics and CPU, AMD GPU and Intel CPU), M1 Mac. This on Windows, Linux and MacOS. I want to like it, but it never runs as smooth as other options do. Maybe I'll give it another shot tomorrow... I have an Nvidia GPU now. 😅
@@herrpez My thinking was that it probably had something to do with it being a hardware accelerated terminal, which I don't think many of the others are, but I could be wrong.
@@deathcare Alacritty is hardware accelerated too, and that runs like a dream on my work laptop, which is considerably less powerful than my home computer. That being said, Wezterm seems to be a little bit faster than before. My main gripe has always been how slow it's been to spawn new windows/tabs. It's still not as quick as my main terminal emulator, but it's at least not painful anymore. 😄 Will have to check it out at work as well, but it's a little bit harder to justify messing around with terminal emulators for the fun of it in that setting.
Interesting, that you didn’t mention my favorite warp terminal features: editing the current command like in a text editor and copying the whole output of a command without selecting anything. Also jumping between outputs or to the beginning of an output block
bro… you EXPOSED yourself and your CHAT as fodder noobs by giving st F tier. it’s the chad suckless terminal. the st literally stands for S TIER. git gud noob. 💪😏
I use windows terminal on my laptop and it's deserves B, like it's good overall but it has some cons, like KEYBINDINGS THAT SOME OF THEM YOU CAN'T EVEN CHANGE. Like seriously, for example you can't delete or edit ctrl+shift+/ which is opening terminal config json. If you try to delete or edit it, after you save changes it will come back
@@BrentMalice I’m sorry. With a seemingly dozen other ways to view images, I never tried getting this to work in Windows terminal. If I get time, I’ll look into this. A fresh pair of eyes may spot an option previously overlooked or recently added.
Windows terminal is honestly D, it only works well for Powershell and is kind of a pain to setup for other environments. Sure you can run WSL through it but it's even more frustrating than the other default terminals to get going on anything that isn't Command Prompt. Essentially, we're not comparing Windows Terminal to stock Command Prompt, we're stacking it against a bunch of other performing terminals and it absolutely does not deserve that B.
I tried installing kitty. It thrown me error of not having graphics driver, coz I am using a VPS server which does not have GPU at all. I use it on vnc viewer. What is the best terminal emulator that does not need GPU at all? (usable on VPS)
You said that alacritty is an amazing terminal, but a few reasons for that would be cool, because I am wondering a lot why people are so excited about it. It is just the speed?
You throwing terminals in S tier without trying them is actually criminal.
Indeed, but at least it's a narrower list for others to try. 😉
This one is more of a chatfluence than his own personal ranking.
He did that with only _one terminal_ , though.
especially ghostty.. everyone is cargo culting that editor.. it is alright... but not on s tier...
Not a SINGLE mention that warp is actually closed source and needs an account to simply open.
F tier
Hey now, if you look up a terminal emulator and see it has enterprise pricing option, you know it's quality.
He wants to be sponsored.
look up wave terminal, its like warp but actually good
paid video
Not including Konsole is insane.
I actually forgot about konsole completely. C tier
Ya I started with kde and after trying others I am so used to konsol I couldn't switch.
Yup. It has basically all features and it's included in kde.
It's not S tier, but it's at least B or even A tier in my opinion
@@no_name4796 ya I think a tier once you add zsh it does everything I need it to.
yeah, it might not be S-tier, but it's definitely A or B. I tried Wezterm but went back to Konsole because Wezterm has something weird going with clipboard.
any terminal that has telemetry should not land in the A tier....
That only makes it better
@@THE_TROLLS_WIN_BOY
nice try Bill Gates 😂
You can disable the telemetry now.
@@rabdpnguinit should be disabled by default.
Bro has a parasocial relationship with his viewers instead of the other way around
I crave friendship
@@typecraft_devholler friend
Any Electron program is automatic F tier... Use the memory you commit, give the rest back... it's not that hard...
Exactly.
well, they do, it's just that they use a whole lot
@@kuhluhOG Not necessarily. I've seen Electron apps (one comes to mind which may rhyme with Notify) commit to 25G RAM, while "only" using 10G.
I mostly agree but I feel that edex-ui gets an exception for sheer awesome and the fact that it's not really meant to be practical anyway.
@@throwaway3227 Spotify is not an Electron app. That's like saying the Steam client is an Electron app just because it uses CEF.
I respect you a lot, this video is low effort, plainly.
the video idea would've worked better if you actually tried all terminals instead of asking chat and reading wikipedia
I agree. Or even made an actual voting system so that results could be quantified. The focus on terminals is interesting but this content is just lazy. You couldn't be bothered to try out the ones you didn't know anything about just for a bit??
You left out the terminal that makes all others obsolete: Terminator
Terminator brooooo yay
It should play "Hasta la vista, baby" every time you do a rm -rf
@@RousentYeah 'cus u're doing it a lot...
It is wild to put st in F. For me the best feature of any app is having a simple/minimal base that is easy to extend. I am not even saying it should be S or A but putting it in F shows incompatibility of my taste/preferences with the "chat"
And warp is definitely F for me. So you rated st as F not knowing anything about it based on chat votes, but you have not listened to them for that one...
FR
Wezterm's config is lua and it has hot reloading, it's tokyo drifting fast
Agreed. GPU accelerated, written in Rust, ligature support, so nice.
wezterm for me, definitely
Hard configured Wezterm so much it just have the keybindings/movements for everything that might require to use TMUX.....even wezterm has inbuilt plugin managers .....im using wezterm-session-manager .....which helps me with the session ......Not great experience but it gets the job done .........I love Rusty product.....Loving Wezterm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Westerm is actually slow for old age laptops but anyway Westerm is great
Like many others, I was using Kitty for years, but gave WezTerm a try ~6 months ago and never looked back. It has all the features I liked about Kitty, but a much cleaner config with Lua that makes it perfect choice for nvim users. I have been following ghostty progress for a while, so look forward to trying it (I also love Zig), but for now I am definitely a believer in WezTerm.
built with rust is not a feature, its an implementation detail
Foot is criminally underrated. Faster than Alacritty with native image support. (No ligatures but I personally avoid them anyways).
people really like it!
And the foot config is dead simple. I think it's the default in sway, so you know it's clean.
@@typecraft_dev foot is sss tier for me
Foot and ghostty are easily the best two
+ nice Tmux integration
One problem with all this is that people rate things based on contextual stuff. GNOME terminal and Windows Terminal (which is open source by the way) are examples. People just don't like Windows or the GNOME desktop, but that should not be a valid reason to rate individual things.
Another problem is that serious rating should always be done on individual aspects of things, such as performance or the number of features.
WARP: FFF
foot is the best it has the most features with least amount of ram required, I like to have multiple terminals opened at the same time (cmus, btop, newsboat, lf) and with the daemon/client feature, one foot sever (around 40 Mb in ram) hold all the process, and lightweight clients are served to show them, think tmux sessions but each is a full window on it's own
urxvt also has the same sort of daemon/client feature. On my machine, seems that with 6 terminals open currently, the entire thing is only taking up about 19MB RAM. urxvt is from back when something as simple as a terminal emulator couldn't afford to be more resource-intensive, but foot does seem like a great Wayland-native option, from everything I've heard.
Moment of silence for our fellow developers who are still working with 128 MB RAM machines.
@@ultru3525 Amen
Instead of rating the people behind the terminal or the company or the potential, how about rating the terminals themselves ? You dont have time to install and test them? Sorry but as a youtuber is that not what you have time for? I cant tell if you are trolling to get interaction but this was a little hard to watch. *well played* would love to have seen a mem use comparison in normal use. wezterm, foot and alacritty have big differences in system resource usage.
Number 1 feature every terminal MUST have for me is to support dropdown style like Guake/Yakuake, where I can bind Ctrl+` key to bring it up from anywhere. I can't live without that lol
you can do that in your WM with any terminal, google scratchpads :D
I use Konsole BTW.
Yup. Great terminal!
A tier in my opinion
Based. Coming from a wezterm enjoyer
Mee too. I think it can correct some subpixel stuff on oled screen. Atleast some special font rendering.
People are way too negative when it comes to ranking nowadays. Like, why are perfectly good terminals in the lowest tiers Just because they don't "wow" chat? I would think the lower tiers would be reserved for actually bad terminals.
It's because something being mid is worse than something being bad.
Speaking as somebody who has used Linux since 1992, I really don't think that there is that much difference between terminal emulators, not enough to be worth a lot of trouble.
That's about the same time I started. I remember when rxvt came out and wow, unicode! These days I use Sakura mostly. why? no idea. I just started using it one day and it got the job done for me, so never bothered to change spend time looking for anything else.
Should put on “include paid promotions” of you are gonna ride warp that much
Foot is great. I tried different terminals, including Kitty and Alacritty, and I found that Foot feels faster and snappier than all of them
that's cause it is faster. alacritty is a bunch of marketing bull crap and hype. foot is *actually* fast.
it's definitely really smooth and probably better than alacritty if you just have wayland
This is great except for the Warp terminal. No matter how fancy it is, it shouldn't be in A. I am not sure about an F but definitely not A. Reasons: Requires login to even work, Closed source and ofcourse telemetry. Also you should check out Wave terminal.
That's true, but he was deciding based on the features it has
And it was a little biased, because warp donates to foss projects, which makes them more respectable
@@no_name4796 I believe he was quite biased on this one(which he has all the right to be) and decided to brush aside the major flaws of the Warp terminal. He did try to justify this by saying things which shouldn't have affected the objective value of Warp terminal. Why does it matter if Warp supports open source or not when we are discussing the value of the terminal. As for the respect part, Microsoft also supports several open source products but that doesn't make them any more respectful. We should judge a product for what it is and Warp in my personal opinion is not a A-tier terminal. Forget all its other flaws. NO terminal should ever need to be required to be logged in to just get to the interface and use it. Period.
@@raviroy7882 as i said, he was biased in favor of wasp because of all the foss donations, imo.
But yeah, i wouldn't use wasp lol
If it was competing in Linux, Windows Terminal would be a C, but in the Windows ecosystem it's a solid A
Foot is insanely speedy. Nothing compares. I found wezterm to be slow, kitty to be slow. Like i start typing before terminal appears on the screen and that's bad.
Only thing lacking is font ligatures. But i can live with that.
Powershell indeed sucks but Windows Terminal itself is pretty great recently.
It recently got a new engine with many features like allows images to be displayed within the terminal.
It's not a terminal that should be underestimated because of Windows or PowerShell.
Exactly, Ive used it and its S tier for sure. ITerm should also be S or A... idk what is this logic of open source good softwares being so low
You forgot Konsole ! I tried many but keep coming back to Konsole. It has everything and not too much at the same time.
Foot is really really good. I use it as a daily driver , deserves S tier
How could you not be aware that Mac OS was based on NeXT?
What I learned from this is your chat is regarded
t*?
restarted*
Wheres CRT(cool-retro-term)? my fav terminal D':
i was flashbanged so many times this video i might be going blind
I personally I am happy with the Gnome Terminal most of the time, but I occasionally reach for Terminator for more features
This video feels a bit lazy. I would actually love sole insight or at least table of features to campare them. Perhaps some good some bad atributes.
Not just chat kinda randomly sayng aaa yea that one is D for no reason. Othervise i like your content.
Yeah I get it. Will follow up with more in depth stuff
Damn left out Konsol for all us kde fanboys.
Yeah, and worst thing is that he included gnome shitty terminal ans xfce terminal lol
I think two very important criteria for good terminal emulators is (1) unicode, ligature and sixel support and (2) input latency. st has some of the best ligature and sixel support, and it also has the lowest input latency among all the X11 terminal emulators I have tested (you need to change a setting for it). I think it's easily the best, especially if you use a simple to configure fork of it like st-flexipatch
Warp's login is Z tier already.
Warp is utter garbage. Ugly, bloated, pain to configure, and loaded with misplaced web technology.
While the intent of this video is interesting, it completely falls apart in execution.
Many terminals were disregarded simply by saying they don't have any wowing features without ever listing what those are. Even going as far as reading a summary made by AI without checking facts.
On the other hand, many terminals were put at the forefront by saying they're great and have many great features, but again which features?
Some features were mentioned, like:
- Integrated AI assistant
- Ligature support
- Image rendering
- Infinite scrolling
- Performance
- Panes
- Hyperlink support
- Special events support (like mouse clicks)
But basically none of those were discussed, much less demonstrated.
For example, why is it so important for a terminal to be able to render images? What does it mean for a terminal to be performant? And so on and so forth.
Anyway. While the video is indeed entertaining thanks to your character, its content is worthless. I rank it F in my tier list.
Awwwwwwwe
This is kind of a niche use case/feature, but it's worth mentioning that terminals built with libvte (xfce4-terminal, gnome terminal, terminator, probably a few others) have their own font-independent rendering system for the box drawing/geometric shapes/legacy computing unicode characters so that they always fit perfectly without any gaps, which only really matters if you do text mode art, but it's a big deal if you do text mode art.
black box and prompt are not mentioned but both are probably slightly better than gnome terminal currently
Windows terminal is absolutely amazing. What sucks is Window's shells (both dos prompt and powershell), but the terminal app itself is probably the best one there is.
F is for telemetry and this message is sponsored by warp
Patching and recompiling for st really isn't that difficult once you do it a couple of times. It really is great once you get it configured just right.
alacritty isn't supposed to support images, it's supposed to be a simple and non-bloated terminal emulator
To me the top one is foot terminal. Really good client server architecture. Super light on resources. Ability to set title and class. Really fast. It has everything.
Lol people saying eww to st and rating it an F, and saying meh to foot and rating it a C. With st it's minimal and good for tiling window managers using st-flexipatch you can even use sixel graphics. With foot terminal it's the only good terminal that is still minimal and supports sixel by default. If nobody knows what that is, you can list and display images in the terminal itself no need for extra installation or configs. You can even use lsix and it will list all images and print them directly. If nobody appreciates that then I guess there is no hope for humanity.
can't expect much from hyprland users
@@bhavyakukkar Bruh you got me with a stray bullet. I use i3wm and hyprland side by side with foot and st.
@@groff8657 hehe. st and foot make up for the snobbery of using hyprland though
iterm2’s ability to provide auto profile switching when logging onto a remote cluster is awesome! When I’m working on 8 different remote clusters … in identical directory structures, as either root or normal user, it’s so nice to instantly know the machine and user of the terminal ! There’s no way to get confused no matter how many times you exit, and log on, or what user you log on as ... The ability to apply a profile AUTOMATICALLY upon logon to a remote system is a MUST for me. I’m new to Linux (Fedora), but, does ANY other terminal in Linux match that one feature ? That one feature alone would place any terminal into the top category for me.
The problem with ghosty is that it’s too featureful, either it will cause incompatibility with non ghosty terminals or those features will go unused
Can you make a video, why you choose ghostty instead of kitty?
Like what's that, kitty doesn't have, that ghostty have?
st terminal is actually kinda nice. Sure patching is not for everybody but it does its job of being a simple terminal and actually helped me a lot to have it for work
Not including Tilix is unacceptable. It has literally any featurə that one might ever need
I don't use it but I'd have to say that foot is S tier. It's at least as fast as kitty/alacritty/wezterm but WITHOUT the use of hardware acceleration. The technology behind it is really cool. Very efficient with system resources. Rock solid terminal.
St is an easy S for me. You can turn it into whatever you want. The source is meant to be small and simple, so modding is insanely easy.
As a Windows and .NET engineer for over a decade, I could not disagree more with the ranking for the VS Code Terminal. It's a solid B, and Windows Terminal as well.
Your best friends are just hating, which I kinda hate Microsoft these days too, but you gotta stay objective and recognize that they still produce some pretty great developer tools. I'm not saying BEST by any means, but still solid and great.
Where are all the emacs terminal emulators? Eshell and Vterm are great.
Gnome (Terminal) - UX/UI for tablets should not be used on desktops and laptops with keyboard and mouse. D tier.
Warp - THIS IS PAID KEYLOGGER. Donating with logo placement is called advertisement. Online accout required to connect to your intranet ssh devices... What's wrong with you?
Wezterm - black screen on wayland. Weird behaviour on pasting text with new lines. B tier.
Kitty - ULTRA TOXIC DEVELOPER. Do not report issues if you are not ready to be insulted. Python is not fast. D tier.
Alacritty - hang on paste from vim. Issue 9 month without attention
Ghostty - closed source. closed beta... I can bet it will be paid. F tier
The review we needed.
how's foot?
@@reescas I'm using foot+zsh+tmux on sway devuan, no complains
@rerereuj wasn't the dev also not wanting to flatpak it, to me that screams its doing shady background shit
No S tier ones?
What are usecases for image rendering in the terminal? Never needed it
You can render images for example in a terminal file browser.
same. I think the primary use case is what he’s using it for. just viewing what images are what, without relying on another program or relying of file names
i could see it being useful while using ffmpeg for example
if you write markdown files sometimes is useful
to add a waifu to your neofetch command :kekw
i really want Ghostty
Nobody uses Guake?
I've been scrolling to find another guake user. I try other terminals, but always ends up coming back to guake.
Great tier list! However, I noticed that Tabby and Wave Terminal were missing.
Personally I use the windows terminal because it lets you change the background image to a .GIF (most terminals don't support .GIF) or even your desktop wallpaper + UI looks cool + color themes are super easy to add
I haven't tested a lot, always used what was included or recommend. Some day I read abbout GPU accelerated terminals, found 3 opengl powered terminals and took Alacritty from it. It just works for me. Fast as hell and no issues. Maybe because I just start tmux automatically when starting Alacritty. That's the best way for me to have just one dependency on a different machine (tmux) and not have to find myself in tinkering with any shortcuts.
which terminal is the best? the one that opens and is preinstalled gnome-terminal, konsole, the tty. maybe kitty or alacritty if you can be bothered
iterm is B while warp is A where iterm also being an open source project, what are you taking these days?
Terminal App is actually the smoothest experience on macOS, other terminals cannot reproduce its refresh rate.
Warp wants me to create an account....... to use a terminal....... that's all I need to know
st in F is a violation oh my goodness
its basically a terminal that you build on yourself, ontop of dwm, which you build onto yourself, ontop of so on and so on, it's what you make it, and it's amazing
I mean colored text should be pretty baseline these days..
I think performance/snappiness/memory usage is also a consideration, not just features
Vide should be named "Chat ranked every Linux terminal".
Tabby, Konsole ?
I have to say, configuring st might be the hardest and it ig deserved low ranking but not last! Ik it's a personal preference. Anyway I use st for everyday use since I have a potato pc I have save up my resources for my browser and lsp. St did a great job at that. In my env st uses only 20mb ram. It also supports ALL THE FEATURES (all that i know of and use) of any terminal with least resource usage. But I can assure if I had a better device I'd have used kitty anyday and everyday (kitty isn't supported in my current device).
Also Warp deserves a C.
The Windows terminal is good enough for windows, but the only issue is the amount of time it takes just to launch it in slow machines.
Come on now, "Terminator."
Absolutely Terminator!
you didn't try shit
I think windows terminal got shafted a bit, compared to other Linux terminals, it's a bit behind, but some chatters putting WT bellow because of Powershell is a little disingenuous, a terminal emulator shouldn't be reviewed based on what shell it can run, but if it should, Windows Terminal can also use bash, or any UNIX shell for that matter if you run WSL2.
Windows isn't a system made to be navigated with just a terminal, but even tho, MS made good, all around terminal, with pretty much every essential feature you would expect from a good terminal emulator, and if you're going to use it for developing in Linux using WSL2, it's works really well.
It deserves at least an A.
excellent comment. I was actually surprised to see how many people LOVED windows terminal (got a few S-tier comments in chat as well)
@@typecraft_dev I think, and I may be wrong on this, but to me it seemed that those saying F, or B, were either memeing, because it's Microsoft, or were Linux users who never used it and were just trashing it, because it's Microsoft. And I get the sentiment, I also hate some of Microsoft's BS even tho I use Windows, but I still have to meet someone who actually uses WT on a daily basis and doesn't like it, it's a vast improvement compared to pure powershell or cmd, it's the best terminal emulator you can have on Windows by a long shot.
It’s slow as shit though
Yeah, back before I switched to Linux, I was honestly very happy with Windows Terminal.
From the terminals I have personally used: Alacritty > Windows Terminal > Konsole > Gnome terminal
powershell is pretty cool.. it's like the only good microsoft product aside from maybe windows terminal and minesweeper
Why is alacritty over iterm2…
Trying to cut through the noise...which there's a ton of on this topic. I love iTerm2 on macOS because I can simply create a freeform layout, close and restart the app, and everything was persisted and restored without a bunch of configuration, extra packages, etc. I want the tiling terminal for Linux that does this for me and looks good in Gnome. Terminator is a buggy, confusing mess. Tilix comes close but requires manually saving/opening layouts for restoring.
Many of the more advanced features are things I think should be included in the shell rather than in the terminal emulator; any form of autocomplete and fuzzy search feature should be in the shell. I can see that there are potentials for weird bugs if you use a shell with similar features as the terminal emulator.
where is hyper my beloved
I mean, Zed also has a terminal that you can open Neovim in...
Also, if you notice though, the VS Code emulator is not its own terminal emulator. It hooks into your default terminal emulator (same as Zed). They shouldn't count! Also RIP Konsole for apparently not even making the list lol.
Best for macOS:
iterm2. I always end up switching back to it.
Best for Linux:
Alacritty or Kitty.
Alacritty has no scrollbar rofl - and apparently actively blocks adding one.
Windows Terminal is actually fantastic. I main pop_os, but when I have to use windows for work, I actually really enjoy it and kind of wish it was available for Linux.
How can you not add terminator and terminology
This. Terminator has plenty of unique features (like multiplexing & broadcasting)!
Cannot wait for Ghostty to be available publicly as most terminal have serious wayland problems like wezterm
I have compared Alacritty and Kitty among different PC/Linux laptops & desktops & macbooks (intel and Mx) and I find Alacritty faster than Kitty, most of the time, being its own separate process, single tab, no multitab support makes it better for me. However it doesn't support images, I would put Konsole on B+, same as Alacritty.
I really loved wezterm but for whatever reason, for me, it had crazy issues with eating my inputs and random slow downs. Maybe it was an nvidia hardware thing or something. I've been pretty happy with foot ever since I switched though, feels much more lightweight.
I doubt that it's an Nvidia thing. I've used it on AMD (GPU and CPU), Intel (integrated graphics and CPU, AMD GPU and Intel CPU), M1 Mac. This on Windows, Linux and MacOS. I want to like it, but it never runs as smooth as other options do.
Maybe I'll give it another shot tomorrow... I have an Nvidia GPU now. 😅
@@herrpez My thinking was that it probably had something to do with it being a hardware accelerated terminal, which I don't think many of the others are, but I could be wrong.
@@deathcare Alacritty is hardware accelerated too, and that runs like a dream on my work laptop, which is considerably less powerful than my home computer.
That being said, Wezterm seems to be a little bit faster than before. My main gripe has always been how slow it's been to spawn new windows/tabs. It's still not as quick as my main terminal emulator, but it's at least not painful anymore. 😄 Will have to check it out at work as well, but it's a little bit harder to justify messing around with terminal emulators for the fun of it in that setting.
Interesting, that you didn’t mention my favorite warp terminal features: editing the current command like in a text editor and copying the whole output of a command without selecting anything. Also jumping between outputs or to the beginning of an output block
what sense to rank Ghostty if its not available?
bro… you EXPOSED yourself and your CHAT as fodder noobs by giving st F tier. it’s the chad suckless terminal. the st literally stands for S TIER. git gud noob. 💪😏
shit, I'm a fraud
Not really.
I use windows terminal on my laptop and it's deserves B, like it's good overall but it has some cons, like KEYBINDINGS THAT SOME OF THEM YOU CAN'T EVEN CHANGE. Like seriously, for example you can't delete or edit ctrl+shift+/ which is opening terminal config json. If you try to delete or edit it, after you save changes it will come back
Maybe even C, lack of features
For those of us stuck on Windows for work, the new Windows Terminal is really great. JSON customization, tabbed for CMD, PowerShell, WSL, Docker, etc…
its my favorite so far even with options, except i cant get images to work.
@@BrentMalice I’m sorry. With a seemingly dozen other ways to view images, I never tried getting this to work in Windows terminal. If I get time, I’ll look into this. A fresh pair of eyes may spot an option previously overlooked or recently added.
Windows terminal is honestly D, it only works well for Powershell and is kind of a pain to setup for other environments. Sure you can run WSL through it but it's even more frustrating than the other default terminals to get going on anything that isn't Command Prompt. Essentially, we're not comparing Windows Terminal to stock Command Prompt, we're stacking it against a bunch of other performing terminals and it absolutely does not deserve that B.
no terminator?????
I tried installing kitty. It thrown me error of not having graphics driver, coz I am using a VPS server which does not have GPU at all. I use it on vnc viewer. What is the best terminal emulator that does not need GPU at all? (usable on VPS)
You said that alacritty is an amazing terminal, but a few reasons for that would be cool, because I am wondering a lot why people are so excited about it. It is just the speed?
Not including the classics like urxvt is strange. Also rating seems pretty random and inconsistent and foot is way underrated
kitty should get lowest rank for its audio bell and closing dialog by default
Where is KDE Konsole ?
It has all the features which a S tier terminal will need. It has image, ligatures, multiple pane and many more features