yeah, it might not be S-tier, but it's definitely A or B. I tried Wezterm but went back to Konsole because Wezterm has something weird going with clipboard.
I agree. Or even made an actual voting system so that results could be quantified. The focus on terminals is interesting but this content is just lazy. You couldn't be bothered to try out the ones you didn't know anything about just for a bit??
It is wild to put st in F. For me the best feature of any app is having a simple/minimal base that is easy to extend. I am not even saying it should be S or A but putting it in F shows incompatibility of my taste/preferences with the "chat"
And warp is definitely F for me. So you rated st as F not knowing anything about it based on chat votes, but you have not listened to them for that one...
st stands for S Tier (terminal) but seriously its probably my favorite. It's even lighter on resources than urxvt, and xterm (at least that's what my system shows me when running them), but unlike those two it doesn't have the wierd kinda janky feeling when doing the things I want to do in my terminal. I actually love the patching part. I can add the features I wan't and it has a ton of choices for patching. For the most part I use st, and I use kitty if I ever feel like I need anything st can't do (which isn't much tbh).
100% agree. Ranking st in F tier without trying it says everything I need to know about this guy: he is not a terminal user. He probably uses more the mouse than the keyboard.
Hard configured Wezterm so much it just have the keybindings/movements for everything that might require to use TMUX.....even wezterm has inbuilt plugin managers .....im using wezterm-session-manager .....which helps me with the session ......Not great experience but it gets the job done .........I love Rusty product.....Loving Wezterm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Like many others, I was using Kitty for years, but gave WezTerm a try ~6 months ago and never looked back. It has all the features I liked about Kitty, but a much cleaner config with Lua that makes it perfect choice for nvim users. I have been following ghostty progress for a while, so look forward to trying it (I also love Zig), but for now I am definitely a believer in WezTerm.
People are way too negative when it comes to ranking nowadays. Like, why are perfectly good terminals in the lowest tiers Just because they don't "wow" chat? I would think the lower tiers would be reserved for actually bad terminals.
One problem with all this is that people rate things based on contextual stuff. GNOME terminal and Windows Terminal (which is open source by the way) are examples. People just don't like Windows or the GNOME desktop, but that should not be a valid reason to rate individual things. Another problem is that serious rating should always be done on individual aspects of things, such as performance or the number of features.
Instead of rating the people behind the terminal or the company or the potential, how about rating the terminals themselves ? You dont have time to install and test them? Sorry but as a youtuber is that not what you have time for? I cant tell if you are trolling to get interaction but this was a little hard to watch. *well played* would love to have seen a mem use comparison in normal use. wezterm, foot and alacritty have big differences in system resource usage.
foot is the best it has the most features with least amount of ram required, I like to have multiple terminals opened at the same time (cmus, btop, newsboat, lf) and with the daemon/client feature, one foot sever (around 40 Mb in ram) hold all the process, and lightweight clients are served to show them, think tmux sessions but each is a full window on it's own
urxvt also has the same sort of daemon/client feature. On my machine, seems that with 6 terminals open currently, the entire thing is only taking up about 19MB RAM. urxvt is from back when something as simple as a terminal emulator couldn't afford to be more resource-intensive, but foot does seem like a great Wayland-native option, from everything I've heard.
Gnome (Terminal) - UX/UI for tablets should not be used on desktops and laptops with keyboard and mouse. D tier. Warp - THIS IS PAID KEYLOGGER. Donating with logo placement is called advertisement. Online accout required to connect to your intranet ssh devices... What's wrong with you? Wezterm - black screen on wayland. Weird behaviour on pasting text with new lines. B tier. Kitty - ULTRA TOXIC DEVELOPER. Do not report issues if you are not ready to be insulted. Python is not fast. D tier. Alacritty - hang on paste from vim. Issue 9 month without attention Ghostty - closed source. closed beta... I can bet it will be paid. F tier
While the intent of this video is interesting, it completely falls apart in execution. Many terminals were disregarded simply by saying they don't have any wowing features without ever listing what those are. Even going as far as reading a summary made by AI without checking facts. On the other hand, many terminals were put at the forefront by saying they're great and have many great features, but again which features? Some features were mentioned, like: - Integrated AI assistant - Ligature support - Image rendering - Infinite scrolling - Performance - Panes - Hyperlink support - Special events support (like mouse clicks) But basically none of those were discussed, much less demonstrated. For example, why is it so important for a terminal to be able to render images? What does it mean for a terminal to be performant? And so on and so forth. Anyway. While the video is indeed entertaining thanks to your character, its content is worthless. I rank it F in my tier list.
This video feels a bit lazy. I would actually love sole insight or at least table of features to campare them. Perhaps some good some bad atributes. Not just chat kinda randomly sayng aaa yea that one is D for no reason. Othervise i like your content.
Foot is insanely speedy. Nothing compares. I found wezterm to be slow, kitty to be slow. Like i start typing before terminal appears on the screen and that's bad. Only thing lacking is font ligatures. But i can live with that.
Speaking as somebody who has used Linux since 1992, I really don't think that there is that much difference between terminal emulators, not enough to be worth a lot of trouble.
That's about the same time I started. I remember when rxvt came out and wow, unicode! These days I use Sakura mostly. why? no idea. I just started using it one day and it got the job done for me, so never bothered to change spend time looking for anything else.
Number 1 feature every terminal MUST have for me is to support dropdown style like Guake/Yakuake, where I can bind Ctrl+` key to bring it up from anywhere. I can't live without that lol
Lol people saying eww to st and rating it an F, and saying meh to foot and rating it a C. With st it's minimal and good for tiling window managers using st-flexipatch you can even use sixel graphics. With foot terminal it's the only good terminal that is still minimal and supports sixel by default. If nobody knows what that is, you can list and display images in the terminal itself no need for extra installation or configs. You can even use lsix and it will list all images and print them directly. If nobody appreciates that then I guess there is no hope for humanity.
Powershell indeed sucks but Windows Terminal itself is pretty great recently. It recently got a new engine with many features like allows images to be displayed within the terminal. It's not a terminal that should be underestimated because of Windows or PowerShell.
To me the top one is foot terminal. Really good client server architecture. Super light on resources. Ability to set title and class. Really fast. It has everything.
This is great except for the Warp terminal. No matter how fancy it is, it shouldn't be in A. I am not sure about an F but definitely not A. Reasons: Requires login to even work, Closed source and ofcourse telemetry. Also you should check out Wave terminal.
That's true, but he was deciding based on the features it has And it was a little biased, because warp donates to foss projects, which makes them more respectable
@@no_name4796 I believe he was quite biased on this one(which he has all the right to be) and decided to brush aside the major flaws of the Warp terminal. He did try to justify this by saying things which shouldn't have affected the objective value of Warp terminal. Why does it matter if Warp supports open source or not when we are discussing the value of the terminal. As for the respect part, Microsoft also supports several open source products but that doesn't make them any more respectful. We should judge a product for what it is and Warp in my personal opinion is not a A-tier terminal. Forget all its other flaws. NO terminal should ever need to be required to be logged in to just get to the interface and use it. Period.
same. I think the primary use case is what he’s using it for. just viewing what images are what, without relying on another program or relying of file names
i think he means that because it’s AI powered, it’s essentially sending lots of your data to the cloud. whether it’s secure or not is a bit difficult to prove, although it is open source. in any case shell commands includes more information that you should be comfortable giving away
Windows terminal is absolutely amazing. What sucks is Window's shells (both dos prompt and powershell), but the terminal app itself is probably the best one there is.
This is kind of a niche use case/feature, but it's worth mentioning that terminals built with libvte (xfce4-terminal, gnome terminal, terminator, probably a few others) have their own font-independent rendering system for the box drawing/geometric shapes/legacy computing unicode characters so that they always fit perfectly without any gaps, which only really matters if you do text mode art, but it's a big deal if you do text mode art.
Patching and recompiling for st really isn't that difficult once you do it a couple of times. It really is great once you get it configured just right.
bro… you EXPOSED yourself and your CHAT as fodder noobs by giving st F tier. it’s the chad suckless terminal. the st literally stands for S TIER. git gud noob. 💪😏
st in F is a violation oh my goodness its basically a terminal that you build on yourself, ontop of dwm, which you build onto yourself, ontop of so on and so on, it's what you make it, and it's amazing
st terminal is actually kinda nice. Sure patching is not for everybody but it does its job of being a simple terminal and actually helped me a lot to have it for work
I tried installing kitty. It thrown me error of not having graphics driver, coz I am using a VPS server which does not have GPU at all. I use it on vnc viewer. What is the best terminal emulator that does not need GPU at all? (usable on VPS)
As a Windows and .NET engineer for over a decade, I could not disagree more with the ranking for the VS Code Terminal. It's a solid B, and Windows Terminal as well. Your best friends are just hating, which I kinda hate Microsoft these days too, but you gotta stay objective and recognize that they still produce some pretty great developer tools. I'm not saying BEST by any means, but still solid and great.
This tier list is actually dog water Giving S tier without trying them is insane Give d or something low to xfce terminal bcs some KDE gnome zoomers tells it is insane too
iterm2’s ability to provide auto profile switching when logging onto a remote cluster is awesome! When I’m working on 8 different remote clusters … in identical directory structures, as either root or normal user, it’s so nice to instantly know the machine and user of the terminal ! There’s no way to get confused no matter how many times you exit, and log on, or what user you log on as ... The ability to apply a profile AUTOMATICALLY upon logon to a remote system is a MUST for me. I’m new to Linux (Fedora), but, does ANY other terminal in Linux match that one feature ? That one feature alone would place any terminal into the top category for me.
I think windows terminal got shafted a bit, compared to other Linux terminals, it's a bit behind, but some chatters putting WT bellow because of Powershell is a little disingenuous, a terminal emulator shouldn't be reviewed based on what shell it can run, but if it should, Windows Terminal can also use bash, or any UNIX shell for that matter if you run WSL2. Windows isn't a system made to be navigated with just a terminal, but even tho, MS made good, all around terminal, with pretty much every essential feature you would expect from a good terminal emulator, and if you're going to use it for developing in Linux using WSL2, it's works really well. It deserves at least an A.
@@typecraft_dev I think, and I may be wrong on this, but to me it seemed that those saying F, or B, were either memeing, because it's Microsoft, or were Linux users who never used it and were just trashing it, because it's Microsoft. And I get the sentiment, I also hate some of Microsoft's BS even tho I use Windows, but I still have to meet someone who actually uses WT on a daily basis and doesn't like it, it's a vast improvement compared to pure powershell or cmd, it's the best terminal emulator you can have on Windows by a long shot.
Yeah, back before I switched to Linux, I was honestly very happy with Windows Terminal. From the terminals I have personally used: Alacritty > Windows Terminal > Konsole > Gnome terminal
Ive been using kitty a lot, but I dont use all its funcionalities, and I cant figure out how to make it not be a square on wayland gnome. I just want it to match the rest of the enviroment and have rounded corners... I think Ill switch it
I had been having a hard time understanding the point of using a third-party terminal. Reading comments made me realize that Konsole being my default is the reason.
I have to say, configuring st might be the hardest and it ig deserved low ranking but not last! Ik it's a personal preference. Anyway I use st for everyday use since I have a potato pc I have save up my resources for my browser and lsp. St did a great job at that. In my env st uses only 20mb ram. It also supports ALL THE FEATURES (all that i know of and use) of any terminal with least resource usage. But I can assure if I had a better device I'd have used kitty anyday and everyday (kitty isn't supported in my current device). Also Warp deserves a C.
You throwing terminals in S tier without trying them is actually criminal.
Indeed, but at least it's a narrower list for others to try. 😉
This one is more of a chatfluence than his own personal ranking.
He did that with only _one terminal_ , though.
especially ghostty.. everyone is cargo culting that editor.. it is alright... but not on s tier...
Not a SINGLE mention that warp is actually closed source and needs an account to simply open.
F tier
Hey now, if you look up a terminal emulator and see it has enterprise pricing option, you know it's quality.
He wants to be sponsored.
look up wave terminal, its like warp but actually good
paid video
Not including Konsole is insane.
I actually forgot about konsole completely. C tier
Ya I started with kde and after trying others I am so used to konsol I couldn't switch.
Yup. It has basically all features and it's included in kde.
It's not S tier, but it's at least B or even A tier in my opinion
@@no_name4796 ya I think a tier once you add zsh it does everything I need it to.
yeah, it might not be S-tier, but it's definitely A or B. I tried Wezterm but went back to Konsole because Wezterm has something weird going with clipboard.
any terminal that has telemetry should not land in the A tier....
That only makes it better
@@THE_TROLLS_WIN_BOY
nice try Bill Gates 😂
You can disable the telemetry now.
@@rabdpnguinit should be disabled by default.
@THE_TROLLS_WIN_BOY damn, that nearly worked lol
Bro has a parasocial relationship with his viewers instead of the other way around
I crave friendship
@@typecraft_devholler friend
the video idea would've worked better if you actually tried all terminals instead of asking chat and reading wikipedia
I agree. Or even made an actual voting system so that results could be quantified. The focus on terminals is interesting but this content is just lazy. You couldn't be bothered to try out the ones you didn't know anything about just for a bit??
Any Electron program is automatic F tier... Use the memory you commit, give the rest back... it's not that hard...
Exactly.
well, they do, it's just that they use a whole lot
@@kuhluhOG Not necessarily. I've seen Electron apps (one comes to mind which may rhyme with Notify) commit to 25G RAM, while "only" using 10G.
I mostly agree but I feel that edex-ui gets an exception for sheer awesome and the fact that it's not really meant to be practical anyway.
@@throwaway3227 Spotify is not an Electron app. That's like saying the Steam client is an Electron app just because it uses CEF.
I respect you a lot, this video is low effort, plainly.
I have to agree to disagree. I cannot respect this guy after watching this video.
Warp's login is Z tier already.
Warp is utter garbage. Ugly, bloated, pain to configure, and loaded with misplaced web technology.
It is wild to put st in F. For me the best feature of any app is having a simple/minimal base that is easy to extend. I am not even saying it should be S or A but putting it in F shows incompatibility of my taste/preferences with the "chat"
And warp is definitely F for me. So you rated st as F not knowing anything about it based on chat votes, but you have not listened to them for that one...
FR
st stands for S Tier (terminal)
but seriously its probably my favorite. It's even lighter on resources than urxvt, and xterm (at least that's what my system shows me when running them), but unlike those two it doesn't have the wierd kinda janky feeling when doing the things I want to do in my terminal. I actually love the patching part. I can add the features I wan't and it has a ton of choices for patching.
For the most part I use st, and I use kitty if I ever feel like I need anything st can't do (which isn't much tbh).
100% agree. Ranking st in F tier without trying it says everything I need to know about this guy: he is not a terminal user. He probably uses more the mouse than the keyboard.
you didn't try shit
Wezterm's config is lua and it has hot reloading, it's tokyo drifting fast
Agreed. GPU accelerated, written in Rust, ligature support, so nice.
wezterm for me, definitely
Hard configured Wezterm so much it just have the keybindings/movements for everything that might require to use TMUX.....even wezterm has inbuilt plugin managers .....im using wezterm-session-manager .....which helps me with the session ......Not great experience but it gets the job done .........I love Rusty product.....Loving Wezterm ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Westerm is actually slow for old age laptops but anyway Westerm is great
Like many others, I was using Kitty for years, but gave WezTerm a try ~6 months ago and never looked back. It has all the features I liked about Kitty, but a much cleaner config with Lua that makes it perfect choice for nvim users. I have been following ghostty progress for a while, so look forward to trying it (I also love Zig), but for now I am definitely a believer in WezTerm.
Foot is criminally underrated. Faster than Alacritty with native image support. (No ligatures but I personally avoid them anyways).
people really like it!
And the foot config is dead simple. I think it's the default in sway, so you know it's clean.
@@typecraft_dev foot is sss tier for me
Foot and ghostty are easily the best two
+ nice Tmux integration
People are way too negative when it comes to ranking nowadays. Like, why are perfectly good terminals in the lowest tiers Just because they don't "wow" chat? I would think the lower tiers would be reserved for actually bad terminals.
It's because something being mid is worse than something being bad.
@@jasonbeaver4381 No
If it was competing in Linux, Windows Terminal would be a C, but in the Windows ecosystem it's a solid A
One problem with all this is that people rate things based on contextual stuff. GNOME terminal and Windows Terminal (which is open source by the way) are examples. People just don't like Windows or the GNOME desktop, but that should not be a valid reason to rate individual things.
Another problem is that serious rating should always be done on individual aspects of things, such as performance or the number of features.
You left out the terminal that makes all others obsolete: Terminator
Terminator brooooo yay
It should play "Hasta la vista, baby" every time you do a rm -rf
@@RousentYeah 'cus u're doing it a lot...
WARP: FFF
Should put on “include paid promotions” of you are gonna ride warp that much
Instead of rating the people behind the terminal or the company or the potential, how about rating the terminals themselves ? You dont have time to install and test them? Sorry but as a youtuber is that not what you have time for? I cant tell if you are trolling to get interaction but this was a little hard to watch. *well played* would love to have seen a mem use comparison in normal use. wezterm, foot and alacritty have big differences in system resource usage.
I use Konsole BTW.
Yup. Great terminal!
A tier in my opinion
Based. Coming from a wezterm enjoyer
Mee too. I think it can correct some subpixel stuff on oled screen. Atleast some special font rendering.
Wheres CRT(cool-retro-term)? my fav terminal D':
foot is the best it has the most features with least amount of ram required, I like to have multiple terminals opened at the same time (cmus, btop, newsboat, lf) and with the daemon/client feature, one foot sever (around 40 Mb in ram) hold all the process, and lightweight clients are served to show them, think tmux sessions but each is a full window on it's own
urxvt also has the same sort of daemon/client feature. On my machine, seems that with 6 terminals open currently, the entire thing is only taking up about 19MB RAM. urxvt is from back when something as simple as a terminal emulator couldn't afford to be more resource-intensive, but foot does seem like a great Wayland-native option, from everything I've heard.
Moment of silence for our fellow developers who are still working with 128 MB RAM machines.
@@ultru3525 Amen
Gnome (Terminal) - UX/UI for tablets should not be used on desktops and laptops with keyboard and mouse. D tier.
Warp - THIS IS PAID KEYLOGGER. Donating with logo placement is called advertisement. Online accout required to connect to your intranet ssh devices... What's wrong with you?
Wezterm - black screen on wayland. Weird behaviour on pasting text with new lines. B tier.
Kitty - ULTRA TOXIC DEVELOPER. Do not report issues if you are not ready to be insulted. Python is not fast. D tier.
Alacritty - hang on paste from vim. Issue 9 month without attention
Ghostty - closed source. closed beta... I can bet it will be paid. F tier
The review we needed.
how's foot?
@@reescas I'm using foot+zsh+tmux on sway devuan, no complains
@rerereuj wasn't the dev also not wanting to flatpak it, to me that screams its doing shady background shit
No S tier ones?
Foot is really really good. I use it as a daily driver , deserves S tier
While the intent of this video is interesting, it completely falls apart in execution.
Many terminals were disregarded simply by saying they don't have any wowing features without ever listing what those are. Even going as far as reading a summary made by AI without checking facts.
On the other hand, many terminals were put at the forefront by saying they're great and have many great features, but again which features?
Some features were mentioned, like:
- Integrated AI assistant
- Ligature support
- Image rendering
- Infinite scrolling
- Performance
- Panes
- Hyperlink support
- Special events support (like mouse clicks)
But basically none of those were discussed, much less demonstrated.
For example, why is it so important for a terminal to be able to render images? What does it mean for a terminal to be performant? And so on and so forth.
Anyway. While the video is indeed entertaining thanks to your character, its content is worthless. I rank it F in my tier list.
Awwwwwwwe
This video feels a bit lazy. I would actually love sole insight or at least table of features to campare them. Perhaps some good some bad atributes.
Not just chat kinda randomly sayng aaa yea that one is D for no reason. Othervise i like your content.
Yeah I get it. Will follow up with more in depth stuff
Foot is insanely speedy. Nothing compares. I found wezterm to be slow, kitty to be slow. Like i start typing before terminal appears on the screen and that's bad.
Only thing lacking is font ligatures. But i can live with that.
Speaking as somebody who has used Linux since 1992, I really don't think that there is that much difference between terminal emulators, not enough to be worth a lot of trouble.
That's about the same time I started. I remember when rxvt came out and wow, unicode! These days I use Sakura mostly. why? no idea. I just started using it one day and it got the job done for me, so never bothered to change spend time looking for anything else.
Number 1 feature every terminal MUST have for me is to support dropdown style like Guake/Yakuake, where I can bind Ctrl+` key to bring it up from anywhere. I can't live without that lol
you can do that in your WM with any terminal, google scratchpads :D
F is for telemetry and this message is sponsored by warp
iterm is B while warp is A where iterm also being an open source project, what are you taking these days?
What I learned from this is your chat is regarded
t*?
restarted*
Def brainrotted but who isn’t nowadays
Lol people saying eww to st and rating it an F, and saying meh to foot and rating it a C. With st it's minimal and good for tiling window managers using st-flexipatch you can even use sixel graphics. With foot terminal it's the only good terminal that is still minimal and supports sixel by default. If nobody knows what that is, you can list and display images in the terminal itself no need for extra installation or configs. You can even use lsix and it will list all images and print them directly. If nobody appreciates that then I guess there is no hope for humanity.
can't expect much from hyprland users
@@bhavyakukkar Bruh you got me with a stray bullet. I use i3wm and hyprland side by side with foot and st.
@@groff8657 hehe. st and foot make up for the snobbery of using hyprland though
How could you not be aware that Mac OS was based on NeXT?
Powershell indeed sucks but Windows Terminal itself is pretty great recently.
It recently got a new engine with many features like allows images to be displayed within the terminal.
It's not a terminal that should be underestimated because of Windows or PowerShell.
Exactly, Ive used it and its S tier for sure. ITerm should also be S or A... idk what is this logic of open source good softwares being so low
To me the top one is foot terminal. Really good client server architecture. Super light on resources. Ability to set title and class. Really fast. It has everything.
Nobody uses Guake?
I've been scrolling to find another guake user. I try other terminals, but always ends up coming back to guake.
This is great except for the Warp terminal. No matter how fancy it is, it shouldn't be in A. I am not sure about an F but definitely not A. Reasons: Requires login to even work, Closed source and ofcourse telemetry. Also you should check out Wave terminal.
That's true, but he was deciding based on the features it has
And it was a little biased, because warp donates to foss projects, which makes them more respectable
@@no_name4796 I believe he was quite biased on this one(which he has all the right to be) and decided to brush aside the major flaws of the Warp terminal. He did try to justify this by saying things which shouldn't have affected the objective value of Warp terminal. Why does it matter if Warp supports open source or not when we are discussing the value of the terminal. As for the respect part, Microsoft also supports several open source products but that doesn't make them any more respectful. We should judge a product for what it is and Warp in my personal opinion is not a A-tier terminal. Forget all its other flaws. NO terminal should ever need to be required to be logged in to just get to the interface and use it. Period.
@@raviroy7882 as i said, he was biased in favor of wasp because of all the foss donations, imo.
But yeah, i wouldn't use wasp lol
What are usecases for image rendering in the terminal? Never needed it
You can render images for example in a terminal file browser.
same. I think the primary use case is what he’s using it for. just viewing what images are what, without relying on another program or relying of file names
i could see it being useful while using ffmpeg for example
if you write markdown files sometimes is useful
to add a waifu to your neofetch command :kekw
Why is alacritty over iterm2…
Foot is great. I tried different terminals, including Kitty and Alacritty, and I found that Foot feels faster and snappier than all of them
that's cause it is faster. alacritty is a bunch of marketing bull crap and hype. foot is *actually* fast.
it's definitely really smooth and probably better than alacritty if you just have wayland
Tabby, Konsole ?
You forgot Konsole ! I tried many but keep coming back to Konsole. It has everything and not too much at the same time.
i was flashbanged so many times this video i might be going blind
Come on now, "Terminator."
Absolutely Terminator!
alacritty isn't supposed to support images, it's supposed to be a simple and non-bloated terminal emulator
Vide should be named "Chat ranked every Linux terminal".
what sense to rank Ghostty if its not available?
Warp is F tier spyware.
Could you elaborate?
i think he means that because it’s AI powered, it’s essentially sending lots of your data to the cloud. whether it’s secure or not is a bit difficult to prove, although it is open source. in any case shell commands includes more information that you should be comfortable giving away
💯 who the fuck uses a non open-source terminal on Linux? Web Dev brainlets.
How can you not add terminator and terminology
This. Terminator has plenty of unique features (like multiplexing & broadcasting)!
the preview are fcking awesome, the consoles and the leg
I personally I am happy with the Gnome Terminal most of the time, but I occasionally reach for Terminator for more features
My build of st is 112k. Does it get some point for that?
Where are all the emacs terminal emulators? Eshell and Vterm are great.
Not including Tilix is unacceptable. It has literally any featurə that one might ever need
Damn left out Konsol for all us kde fanboys.
Yeah, and worst thing is that he included gnome shitty terminal ans xfce terminal lol
Warp wants me to create an account....... to use a terminal....... that's all I need to know
Windows terminal is absolutely amazing. What sucks is Window's shells (both dos prompt and powershell), but the terminal app itself is probably the best one there is.
This is kind of a niche use case/feature, but it's worth mentioning that terminals built with libvte (xfce4-terminal, gnome terminal, terminator, probably a few others) have their own font-independent rendering system for the box drawing/geometric shapes/legacy computing unicode characters so that they always fit perfectly without any gaps, which only really matters if you do text mode art, but it's a big deal if you do text mode art.
Patching and recompiling for st really isn't that difficult once you do it a couple of times. It really is great once you get it configured just right.
When was this stream
Last week!
@@typecraft_devi shouldn’t have slept
Why would you open vscode just to use the terminal to open neovim?
bro… you EXPOSED yourself and your CHAT as fodder noobs by giving st F tier. it’s the chad suckless terminal. the st literally stands for S TIER. git gud noob. 💪😏
shit, I'm a fraud
Not really.
@@typecraft_dev yes you are
100% agree. Total noob. "Oh no you have to compile it! I'm gonna put it in the F tier". ROFL
Does kitty support true color? In mac I tried to use nvim but the cursor color is not changing to background font color.
yes it does
Kitty supports basically everything
It has more features then konsole, the kde default terminal lol
st in F is a violation oh my goodness
its basically a terminal that you build on yourself, ontop of dwm, which you build onto yourself, ontop of so on and so on, it's what you make it, and it's amazing
Can you make a video, why you choose ghostty instead of kitty?
Like what's that, kitty doesn't have, that ghostty have?
st terminal is actually kinda nice. Sure patching is not for everybody but it does its job of being a simple terminal and actually helped me a lot to have it for work
Why is Alacritty slow when doing an ssh connection?
I tried installing kitty. It thrown me error of not having graphics driver, coz I am using a VPS server which does not have GPU at all. I use it on vnc viewer. What is the best terminal emulator that does not need GPU at all? (usable on VPS)
Great tier list! However, I noticed that Tabby and Wave Terminal were missing.
As a Windows and .NET engineer for over a decade, I could not disagree more with the ranking for the VS Code Terminal. It's a solid B, and Windows Terminal as well.
Your best friends are just hating, which I kinda hate Microsoft these days too, but you gotta stay objective and recognize that they still produce some pretty great developer tools. I'm not saying BEST by any means, but still solid and great.
This tier list is actually dog water
Giving S tier without trying them is insane
Give d or something low to xfce terminal bcs some KDE gnome zoomers tells it is insane too
St is an easy S for me. You can turn it into whatever you want. The source is meant to be small and simple, so modding is insanely easy.
How you can not include tabby in the list???
iterm2’s ability to provide auto profile switching when logging onto a remote cluster is awesome! When I’m working on 8 different remote clusters … in identical directory structures, as either root or normal user, it’s so nice to instantly know the machine and user of the terminal ! There’s no way to get confused no matter how many times you exit, and log on, or what user you log on as ... The ability to apply a profile AUTOMATICALLY upon logon to a remote system is a MUST for me. I’m new to Linux (Fedora), but, does ANY other terminal in Linux match that one feature ? That one feature alone would place any terminal into the top category for me.
I've tried tons, and I always come back to Konsole - and it didn't even make it to your list?
which terminal is the best? the one that opens and is preinstalled gnome-terminal, konsole, the tty. maybe kitty or alacritty if you can be bothered
I think windows terminal got shafted a bit, compared to other Linux terminals, it's a bit behind, but some chatters putting WT bellow because of Powershell is a little disingenuous, a terminal emulator shouldn't be reviewed based on what shell it can run, but if it should, Windows Terminal can also use bash, or any UNIX shell for that matter if you run WSL2.
Windows isn't a system made to be navigated with just a terminal, but even tho, MS made good, all around terminal, with pretty much every essential feature you would expect from a good terminal emulator, and if you're going to use it for developing in Linux using WSL2, it's works really well.
It deserves at least an A.
excellent comment. I was actually surprised to see how many people LOVED windows terminal (got a few S-tier comments in chat as well)
@@typecraft_dev I think, and I may be wrong on this, but to me it seemed that those saying F, or B, were either memeing, because it's Microsoft, or were Linux users who never used it and were just trashing it, because it's Microsoft. And I get the sentiment, I also hate some of Microsoft's BS even tho I use Windows, but I still have to meet someone who actually uses WT on a daily basis and doesn't like it, it's a vast improvement compared to pure powershell or cmd, it's the best terminal emulator you can have on Windows by a long shot.
It’s slow as shit though
Yeah, back before I switched to Linux, I was honestly very happy with Windows Terminal.
From the terminals I have personally used: Alacritty > Windows Terminal > Konsole > Gnome terminal
powershell is pretty cool.. it's like the only good microsoft product aside from maybe windows terminal and minesweeper
black box and prompt are not mentioned but both are probably slightly better than gnome terminal currently
Ive been using kitty a lot, but I dont use all its funcionalities, and I cant figure out how to make it not be a square on wayland gnome. I just want it to match the rest of the enviroment and have rounded corners... I think Ill switch it
I'm just out here using XFCE term, and I learn people are switching their terminals????? Is whatever default they had not good enough?
3:40 bringing the IE/MS Edge meme to the terminal world
What term for wine
No Konsole (KDE), QTerm (QT), ETerm (Enlightenment), LXTerm (LXDE), or classic XTerm?
I am using a new laptop, and using the gnome terminal in ubuntu. And for some reason I can't install lazy vim in neovim. Any tips?
Yeah, go to the LazyVim Element chat and ask your questions there. The community is friendly and tries to help.
What is your installation process
It's is not support true color, so it's look ugly. You can find a terminal support true color like kitty or alacritty
@@lohyenkuan8773 it worked now just had to read the docs in the neovim GitHub repo
@@tuananhdo1870 yeah current using kitty
I had been having a hard time understanding the point of using a third-party terminal. Reading comments made me realize that Konsole being my default is the reason.
Terminator?
Konsole?
urxvt?
Why does warp make you log in
That's the only way its keylogger will work.
The problem with ghosty is that it’s too featureful, either it will cause incompatibility with non ghosty terminals or those features will go unused
Cannot wait for Ghostty to be available publicly as most terminal have serious wayland problems like wezterm
I have to say, configuring st might be the hardest and it ig deserved low ranking but not last! Ik it's a personal preference. Anyway I use st for everyday use since I have a potato pc I have save up my resources for my browser and lsp. St did a great job at that. In my env st uses only 20mb ram. It also supports ALL THE FEATURES (all that i know of and use) of any terminal with least resource usage. But I can assure if I had a better device I'd have used kitty anyday and everyday (kitty isn't supported in my current device).
Also Warp deserves a C.
what do you think about black box tho
it's what I'm currently using
The Windows terminal is good enough for windows, but the only issue is the amount of time it takes just to launch it in slow machines.
Xterm is all you ever need
no konsole?
What other terminal is good on Windows?
I mean colored text should be pretty baseline these days..
I think performance/snappiness/memory usage is also a consideration, not just features
urxvt is the only terminal I want and need.
built with rust is not a feature, its an implementation detail