The Making of the Album… Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- An inside glimpse into the making of Lindsey Buckingham and Christine McVie's first ever album as a duo.
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Now a couple weeks after Christine has passed away, this was epically ‘profound’. I’m glad they had this time together. ☮️❤️To the Fleetwood Mac Family, McVie’s family, and friends. The ‘Songbird’ and her gentle soul may be gone, but she lives on in her beautiful music.🎼🎶🎤
Lindsey is the chemical reaction that made Fleetwood Mac rise to Greatness...
I agree 100%. Without Lindsey, what's the point?
Hooray to that. He is and was the heart and soul of Fleetwood Mac. How dare they do what they did to him. Love you Lindsey.💕💕
It's so sad to think that Lindsey and Christine will no longer be singing together. The songbird has flown.
I miss Christine too. Also sad to see, that Say you will is the final full studio album by the 75 lineup of the band.
What a beautiful album, my two favorite musicians together. The music is perfection. Christine is greatly missed. 😢
Tell her to fly back! Seriously though, at least Lindsey-though he couldn't have known it would happen-made the bother of recording with Christine before she left us. Nicks didn't even do the courtesy, oh she can regret it now, maybe, but tough, her childish choice, as she was ambivalent about returning to "a war band"-forgetting her own wars were very much part of it. Bottom line is: you don't always need to argue with people to get something done. If every group and business did that, nothing would get done or made.
@@tieukhavu8832 Not even that-"Say You Will" lacks Christine penned and sung songs, and she can barely be heard on only a few songs. Many critics state that despite the brand title, this is more a solo album by both Buckingham and Nicks, which it is really, as most of these songs were brought to the table from their unused solo ventures, add to this some of that sound more like solo work than FM work. Now this new album from 2017, given a lazy stupid title, is far more a FM sounding album, and I guess if 3 extra Nicks songs from somewhere were added to it, it'd be like old days, but then no one told Nicks not to be part of it, she made the stupid choice and therefore utterly destroyed any chance of her being in studio with Christine ever again.
@@kyachdistent1301 I mean the four of them . Although Chrissy played as a guest with Band
Lindsey Buckinham you are so much, you are part of the history of Fletwood Mack, the legacy, the story can not be just deletted it's too much and you will always be there and misses for your work and talents.
The forcing of Lindsey out of the band was such a huge mistake. I don't know what all of the circumstances were that led to it. But his absence left the band with an essential part missing. Now with Christine's passing, the band is now missing another essential element. Just as Lindsey is the boy with the magic fingers, Christine was the girl with the golden voice. I'm grateful for all of the wonderful music that they all gave us throughout the years. Christine will be missed.
Lindsey didn't get forced out of the band it's the same thing as in 1987 Fleetwood Mac Wanted to go out on tour and Lindsey didn't in 1987 he threw a tantrum over it and he quit in 2018 similarly the band wanted to go out on tour and he wanted to do his solo career anyways the band voted and he blamed Stevie as he always does when something don't go the way he thinks it should they were at an event before this also where he allegedly said something not nice that upset her but to blame her entirely for him being out is ridiculous that was why he dropped the lawsuit to he even said he would be open to coming back c anyway that was before the loss of Christine since she passed Mick Fleetwood has said he feels like Fleetwood Mac is done.
If he left of his own accord why did FM give him a 12 million dollar settlement?
@@aprilgosa5779 Yeah people either forget or weren’t aware that Lindsey quit the band right after the release of Tango In The Night and right before they were set to go out on tour. He left them high and dry and forced them to scramble to hire two musicians to fill in for him. I remember how disappointed so many fans were that he didn’t tour with them. His history with the band is not pristine.
@@EastSide-qc5oy Please. 3/5ths of the band barely showed up to record on Tango which took 17 months because they were perpetually wasted and when they did show up they barely contributed. Lindsey with a huge assist from Christine gifted them a multi platinum album and their second highest selling WW and made the band relevant again. He didn't want to go on tour with them because he said it was always 10x worse on the road. Lindsey had to set up an RV in his driveway so they'd party there instead of bringing drugged out strangers into his home at 3am. By the end Mick was living in the RV and meeting his drug dealer in Lindsey's driveway. Mick later referred to himself then as an out of control coke monster who when he actually showed up passed out during recording sessions. John was having alcoholic seizures and blackouts and when he did show up often forgot to or couldn't play. Stevie showed up for about 2 weeks total then complained she wasn't on the album a lot and threatened to go to Rolling Stone about it. Lindsey later called it the worst recording experience of his life - he was burnt out.
This was an album Mick pressured Lindsey into producing for the band because he was bankrupt. Also a solo album Lindsey turned into an FM album - not for the first or last time. But sure - he's the one that let the band down. They knew he didn't want to tour but Mick set it up anyway - and he never signed on which is what they were pressuring him to do. Mick told him he toured or was out of the band so he left. Priceless hypocrisy. Fans were disappointed in him because he didn't throw their dirty laundry out there in 1987 but they were happy to throw him under the bus and not for the first or last time.
He was fired in 2018 in a Stevie him or me ultimatum. One done behind Christine's back and presented to her later as majority rules. The band lied about it - or rather Mick and Stevie did claiming he refused to tour for a year when he'd already signed contracts and had been negotiating a 2-3 month push to tour solo after Stevie had just unilaterally pushed the tour back from 2017 (the actual 50th anniversary) to tour another year for 24k. Even then he withdrew his request. Later when that truth came out Mick said it was because they were unhappy - after everyone but Stevie had just happily made and released an album. He sued them for breach of contract and they settled in 3 weeks and paid him his promised tour money because they legally had no cause to fire him. Stevie basically admitted the ultimatum was true with her later bullshit statement of I didn't get him fired, I fired myself. (so yeah him or me) Last year during interviews she was back though to claiming he didn't want to tour.
Stevie dragged her heels on recording new FM music for about 15 years. First it was a claim that albums didn't sell so why bother - then she made a solo album. Then it was because Christine wasn't there and when she came back instead went into the studio to release her album of 40 year old demos instead of being with her band. She later said she would contribute and Mick wrote in his book they were just waiting for Stevie to add her tracks. Then unilaterally in 2015/2016 Stevie announced there would never be another FM album even as her band was working on one. That Mick caved and didn't call it FM was an insult to the rest of the band and another late black mark on their history.
@@joroberts7855 Yeah, he didn't drop the lawsuit. After FM lawyers said they were happy to see him in court they folded in weeks because he had all the documented evidence and gave him that settlement.
Christine Mcvie has a beautiful voice and she just brings happiness for everybody I really love her a lot
@@mariecruzmoth8137 ♪ ♥ ♪
She was my favorite part of Fleetwood Mac. So sad she's gone....💚🎸
She was an Angel in Person, and now an Angel, gone to heaven 😭
I always have admired Lindsey Buckingham's musical feeling in the guitar, and of Christine McVie in the voice.
it was never nicks it was the rest of them carrying her
These two...the most musical aspect of this group
Lindsey is just nothing short of brilliant listening to this new material it doesn't appear he's lost it
I own this album, and it is wonderful ! The harmony's are fantastic,as well as the songs.I miss this really good music.Lindsay is a master at his craft, and Christine is still a beautiful writer, and singer.It's all good .
Ikr! I love it! Chrissie & Lindseys & support is lovely. Bc they never were romantically involved. It’s cool, fresh . RIP she was so damn talented ….Lindsey ……looks overshadowed by Stevie…I bet he felt extra 💩💩💩💩when she passed over. They all did.
Bc I truly feel they say this .
But why?
Do I strongly feel it’s Crap?
Stevie & Lindsey were the ⭐️⭐️
Though Chrissie didn’t want all of it”
Her voice
Her natural English rose beauty
Wow
Missing you,
Still
I do.
Dear Christine.
🌹I give this back to you.
Not only was Christine an Amazing Musical Artist, in Singing and Keyboarding, She has a lovely, beautiful, sweetheart for a soul. That is very rare in just among common, ordinary people, or not famous; and yet they toured the world for decades and was loved by millions, and yet she is so friendly and lights up with affection and love like a Christmas Tree. Stevie on the other hand, rarely smiles, and does NOT seem like a sweet person; it's no wonder she kicked Lindsay out; the audacity; she's mean. She really sold her soul for fame and you can see it in her persona. And when you see old people that do not wrinkle; that is not normal. There is something sinister involved that has to do with children, look at dolly parton, NOT Normal, Stevie Nicks, NOT Normal. Just look up adrenochrome very sinister and it is not unnoticed by Our Creator Jesus in heaven; judgement is here already at the door for these nonhuman/people/solds out for riches. BOOMMM!!!!@@tiffanyroseangeles34
Christine used to write letters to Lindsey saying things to the effect of "I'm not involved in any of this drama, I still consider you my great friend" and that simple reaching out by her was golden.
It is sometimes all a man needs...someone to say "I got your back, friend".
guess it was all Stevie's scheming....
They were great friends with a mutual respect for each other. Respect. I love them both very much.!🌹🌹🌹❤️❤️❤️👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🙏🏼
You mean she wrote that letter after the band fired lindsey?
That was all Steve's doing
@@traceyjones2010 Yes there's way too much of that and she's allowed to get away with it and remain this bitter and hostile. Not good, and so stupid as it stopped her being in the studio one last time with Chrissie.
I Still Cannot Believe Christine is gone, I Miss her So Much. I’m glad my 21 year old son had the privilege to see her in concert with Lindsey and with Fleetwood Mac. Rest in Heaven Christine McVie, We Love You ❤
Lindsey Buckingham is one of the best guitarists around...the chemistry that Fleetwood Mac created will be hard for any group to ever duplicate !
Notice how at ease Lindsey and Christine work together. Absolutely no drama between them which makes a great work environment.
Proof that Lindsey isn't the problem, and that Stevie is the problem.
Genius recognizes Genius
Refreshing isn't?!
yeah but drama caused Rumors
@@sirgilmour Rumors is 45 years ago, let it be what it was and not hold these musical artist in that mold. They are not the same people as they were 45 years ago. They never wanted to make another Rumors at all and have said such.
Creating this album must have been so magical for these 2 old friends. You can tell they have enormous love and respect for each other as singers, songwriters and musicians, no politics involved, just two members of a former Super group getting together to make music and write songs together. I really do think bringing John and Mick on board was an afterthought, Lindsey was probably Just looking for some nostalgia, they could have gotten anyone to play bass and drums on this collaboration album. The most important factor was the songwriting, music and harmonies of Buckingham and McVie which is legendary. These 2 were always the main force in the success of Fleetwood Mac's heyday.
THE DRUMMER IS MIC FLEETWOOD THE OWNER OF THE BAND JOHN MCVIE IS THE EX HUSBAND OF Christine McVie Lindsey Buckingham was asked to join the band and Lindsey would only join the band if they would take his girlfriend with him now that you’re caught up maybe you understand better now
Both wrong. Bringing Mick and John on board wasn't an afterthought, & this wasn't FM so they weren't obligated to.
Read where Lindsey had said that his songs (not sure how many) that he had used on this album were ones he had done earlier, in the "maybe later" file that all artists have, & he had made the demos with Mick & John already playing on them, so why should he get anyone else to play on them when the time came to use them, they were part of those songs from the beginning, before he & Christine even had the idea to collaborate. That doesn't sound like an afterthought to me, probably an unspoken code of ethics between musicians, besides the fact that it made Christine more comfortable than using others after her long sabbatical.
@@pitbullmom214 & @Super Fantastic Happy Media Here's my two cents: After Christine (may she rest in peace) had re-joined the band, there was immediately a spirit of "now lets get on with what's left to do for us". For four members that meant, lets go to the studio and make a new album. The fifth member however, refused to make new music (for the band). Miss Nicks couldn't be persuaded, since in her opinion, at this day and age, selling new music to the public is difficult, and margins are low. She didn't want to go to the studio, but on the road with the existing body of work. So the decision was made it would be a duet album with ALL band members contributing, but Stevie Nicks. She is responsible for this being NO Fleetwood Mac album.
sort of Fleetwood Mac reunion minus Stevie Nicks
Unity, love, & respect. That's what made our MAC special. Not to mention the music.....that speaks for itself. Rest in peace, our song 🕊️....
I always thought there was a certain synchronicity between Christine and Lindsey, I always heard how in F Mac how eerily their voices blended. Sometimes it would be tricky to tell the two apart in singing. They're both very melodic singers too. In F Mac, musically, imho I always thought the two complimented each other greatly. I feel this uniting musically new album, as a duo is a great, idea. Long awaited. I'm looking forward to hearing the music when the album comes out. You also know that they are doing this for the sake of the art of songwriting, and the love for that, not the money. Two very heartfelt people, finally putting creative juices together, as a musical marriage in a way, and the music created between the two, will be their children.
People refuse to accept this, but Fleetwood Mac WAS Lindsey and Christine. Stevie was just the ribbon on top. While the other three were snorting away cocaine and drinking themselves into a stupor in an RV, Lindsey and Christine were trying to manipulate their voices to sound like Stevie was there were she was drugged out and chronically pissed at Lindsey.
Man, Stevie has been pissed at Lindsay for 40 YEARS. It is simply psycho at this point.
Ha, strange dynamics between those two...you would think that she wouldn't get so uptight and understand him better after 45 years. I think its her ego and her being an artist in her own right.
Alan Cofer - Well.. she wrote little poems that others arranged..
Jayanna Kelley who Christine or Stevie ?
Aww! I love the love and respect they have for each other!!
Christine McVie is 74 years old.. and so friggin gorgeous!
I always loved her voice, The Songbird is one of her best IMHO.
she is!
Yes it is
I Totally Agree and seems all of today's great music is from 69 year old's and up Musicians and Singers !!!
fernando perdomo really?? Been to eye doc lately?
I've always said Lindsey Buckingham was the mastermind behind Fleetwood Mac. I do suspect Stevie got her nose out of joint over this album
Absolutely! On both counts.
Congrats to these two genuine artists and musicians for having the guts to release a new CD of new material despite today's "commercial" climate. And despite what their band mate Stevie Nicks feels about the creation of new songs: that it isn't "worth it" for the Mac to record a new CD because it won't sell 5 million copies or whatever. A true musician makes music because he or she HAS TO. They have NO CHOICE. Music is in their veins. The members of Fleetwood Mac have sold enough albums and have played enough profitable gigs to where they have the financial freedom to do anything they want artistically. Lindsey's last 3 solo albums rival some of his material with the Mac, and they probably didn't sell more than 90,000 copies a piece. He doesn't give a damn. Why? He had no choice but to create new music because he's a true artist. Stevie Nicks, as much as I love her songs, has her entire self esteem wrapped up in the commercial acceptance of her work. Unless her new single is #1, she feels horrible about herself. How sad for someone who has a gift; that she needs 5 million people to approve of her creativity. I lost a lot of respect for her during "Destiny Rules" documentary about the making of the Fleetwood Mac CD "Say You Will." She was literally on the floor praying to the "commercial Gods" for acceptance of the band's work. Actually, I didn't lose respect for her; I felt sad for her. In that DVD she showed a real lack of self esteem and a need to see a therapist. At some point record company bastards and naysayers got the best of her. It was truly sad to witness. I am just glad that Lindsey and Christine are following the muse. Just like David Bowie did until the day he died from cancer. A musician never stops making music.
Brilliantly said!!!!!!!
@The Terrence Reardon Podcast but Pros and Cons and Radio Kaos is 2 soloworks by Roger. Both are pretty ok works. And have two big hits; 5.01 am and Tide is turning. Floyd was also still playing the old stuff endlessly. Because that what people keep coming for. The rest is momentary laps.....🌻
It's more probably Stevie don't feel like going on this Lindsey trip again. Nicks fans don' t need it either . In your dreams(...)
I still have more respect for this record than ANYTHING the Mac have done since Stevie fired Lindsey. Lindsey's new solo record is better than "Say You Will" which Stevie refused to make a double CD because she was literally "praying to the commericial Gods" because her drug habits had left her broke. And the Christine/Lindsey solo album is better than "Say You Will" too. The other people in the group (besides maybe Christine) went along with Stevie because they were broke drunk drug abusers themselves. Don't get me wrong: Lindsey and Christine were not saints, but they never allowed substances to get in the way of their artistry.
Or even 500,000 copies. Meanwhile Stevie made a bloody fortune on the road while they were making this album.
Mcvie is always been underrated she brings a smooth chill transition to FWM, its like been at a party and when its all over you can just sit and relax and listen to the music and her singing its relaxing and you can enjoy it. a rare voice from the 70s 80s that hasnt changed.
So great musicians! He is happy and in his element👌👍She is a great woman, singer and songwriter, so sweet talented woman!❤️
It is obviously that Lindsey works very well with Christine. I will leave it at that....
Christine "I LOVE YOU" !!!!!
I do it as well
So very sad. They seemed like such special friends. Can’t believe the band kicked him out
Lindsey and Christine are probably very good friends.
But relationships with Stevie are always rocky the closer you get to her, and frankly I think they're both lukewarm on the other two, given the way things played out in the past.
Nobody ever really forgets.
@@brandonbutler7204 I think that maybe the others who are familiar with the band’s history, would wish that Stevie wouldn’t joined the band in the first place. The lineup would be the same as shown in the film here.
I think this is what Fleetwood Mac would've sounded like had Stevie never joined the band. I'm glad that both Lindsey and Christine were able to make this album before Lindsey was forced out of the band. I don't care what Stevie has to say about it, but Fleetwood Mac isn't the same without Lindsey in it, and I hope, one day, there will be a follow up to this album. Cheers.
Once upon a time even Stevie could see things clearly ... "I realised a long time ago that there is no Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey. If it can't be with him, then let's not do it." (Stevie Nicks in Q Magazine, October 4, 1997)
Fleetwood Macs album "Time" from 1995 was the only album without Stevie as the vocalist. Instead, Bekka Bramlett was introduce to as their session vocalist, while Stevie rejoined the band for the Live album "The Dance". This could be seen as a follow up, with the vocal spot filled by Lindsay and Chris (Christine).
I read that Lindsey was orginally invited to join the band, but not Stevie. Lindsey basically insisted that Stevie be bought aboard as well - in other words, a 'two-for-one' deal.
@@darkness_of_the_night I totally AGREE 👍 AMEN
@@wylier This is true ‼️
Thank you Christine, for sharing yourself with us one more time. This may be your best work and a true legacy. We will miss you always, with a grateful heart. 😞 ❤
it's great to see how close they are to one another.
IMO, even without Stevie Nicks being involved, the four ingredients of Lindsey, Christine, Mick & John make this album worthy of being released under the Fleetwood Mac name.
happiness2007 agreed. especially since they asked her over the course of a few years if she'd come in and do a few songs. stevie kept saying "i don't want to do another fleetwood mac album." so what, the band name dies? that's not fair to the band. there's been 40 different incarnations of the band - many without stevie - and they've all been called FM. somehow this is different just because she's gonna do more nostalgia tours while the rest of the band wants to make new music? sigh. it makes me sad.
victreebel - Agreed. Makes me sad and mad. The anger comes from the fact that Stevie has led Mac fans on for years regarding one final album. Nobody made her do this. She said early last year she was absolutely going to participate. Then, all of a sudden, her horrendous 2014 solo album HAD to be promoted (2 years after its ignored release) and the rest of her magical life was too busy to sing into a microphone after Lindsey took her gibberish poem and worked it into something presentable. But the worst part, for me anyway, was her saying to the press that there would never be another Fleetwood Mac album and that nobody buys new records anyway. What a bitchy attitude. So, Stevie will prevent the band from using its own name because she choses not to contribute or participate (even though she has always done the least amount of work in the band), will refuse to follow through on an album she told fans she'd work on BUT will tour with them next year because that makes her lots of money. The sadness is that we know they (all five of them) could have made another great album and ended their recording career on a high note. But they seem to be catering to the whims of their difficult diva. I wish them luck and despite my anger at Stevie, I will always love her music (most of it anyway - that last solo album belongs in a dumpster).
redletter I didnt know Stevie said there wouldnt be another Fleetwood Mac album
Rock Solid Podcast that's bullshit. stevie is notorious for not even being in the studio while Lindsey works his magic. she can tour with him for a year, though, that's perfectly fine - cuz it makes her millions of dollars. meanwhile the rest of the 4 all get along fine clearly.
Rock Solid Podcast it's BULLSHIT. stevie had always talked out of both sides of her mouth. there was a documentary made during Say You Will. they even left *in* footage where Stevie made Lindsey cry. I'm not saying he wasn't probably a jerk in the past. i'm sure he was in the 70s. but she's still holding a grudge and can't be a professional member of the band. and I say that as someone who VASTLY prefers Stevie as a singer/songwriter.
I wasn't sure about some of the previews we've heard so far, but Red Sun and Carnival Begin sound fantastic! Also my god, look at everyone acting like adults. And happy ones at that. This is a band that should keep recording.
This was a great surprise, since any new release with Christine's name attached is a treasure. "I'm just sleeping around the corner" is one of Buckingham's best
This is really a Fleetwood Mac album if ever there was one! They all look so together. Who would think 8 months later he would be out of the Mac and no one would be speaking to LB? Crazy.
yup. it's the Stevie effect.
Tieu Kha Vu - No it wasn’t.. you need to re-watch & then watch Christine & Lindsey’s interviews ..
I don't get these lyrics ....liked Stevie nicks' much better
Bertha Manley - 🤦♀️
Roy Clay - I’ve honestly thought Stevie was deep down a bit jealous of Lindsey & Christine putting out such a great album.. this really hit me when she was doing a sit down interview & in passing made sure to ‘mention’ how their album ‘blew over in 3 months’.. I personally think LB’s firing was a childish & back stabbing thing to do! Just my observation of the whole ridiculous mess..
Now there are two people who genuinely love each other. What a beautiful collaboration. I'm very much excited about this album.
@Mr. Cairo...Could you enlighten us who do NOT even know about "this little turn of events" here??!! What lawsuit and why??!! If you do NOT want to explain it on here, could you please provide a link to those of us FM Fans who do NOT even know ANYTHING about this!! I mean, this is quite UNbelievable here!! The FM Fab Five (Mick and Lindsey and Stevie and Christine and John) started off on 1 hell of a rock n roll history here and have lasted for over 40 years (with the exception of Christine leaving the band for 16 years here)!! Then, in April 10th, 2018; it was reported by the worldwide media that LB was "FIRED" by FM for "refusing to go on tour"!! Then, within the past year; LB and CM decided to do a duet lp together here (just them, doing the singing and the song writing with John and Mick playing instruments on the recording itself also here)!! So now, everyone is happy with this brand new duo lp by LB and CM (and even L and C are happy with the result of it saying "that the chemistry is still there"!!) Now, would you even believe it here...me and other FM fans are reading that L and C are suing each other in some kind of lawsuit here!! WTF????!!!!
I bet Nicks is losing her mind over this I LOVE IT
@Mr. Cairo they settled and Christine immediately reached out to Lindsey telling him she misses him, that FM is not complete without him, and that she had nothing to do with what Stevie and Mick did to him. there's hope for Buckingham McVie 2!
@@ericaleslie257 In chronological order:
1) Lindsey and Christine's duet album - which originally was meant to be a Fleetwood Mac album (but Stevie didn't want to participate) - was released in 2017. The video above about the making of the album is from May 25th, 2017.
2) Lindsey and Christine toured their duet album in the Fall of 2017.
3) on January 26th 2018 Fleetwood Mac performed at MusiCares in New York and they were honored as 'MusiCares person of the Year'.
4) on April 4th 2018 former Fleetwood Mac guitarist Billy Burnette (1987-1995) shared a tweet that has since been deleted, saying: “Breaking news: Lindsey Buckingham is out but I’m not in.”
His tweet is mentioned in this article: www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/fleetwood-mac-fires-lindsey-buckingham-629198/
5) on April 25th 2018 Fleetwood Mac's new line-up (with guitarist Mike Campbell and singer/guitarist Neil Finn) did an interview with CBS's Anthony Mason and here Stevie and Mick explained that Lindsey had been fired because he - allegedly - "didn't want to go out on the road for an year".
Link: www.cbsnews.com/news/fleetwood-mac-tour-2018-without-lindsey-buckingham/
...........
But news travel fast these days, thanks to the social media. And several people who are connected to Fleetwood Mac and Mike Campbell's old band Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers talked about Lindsey's firing weeks before the CBS interview. One example of that is the tweet that Billy Burnette wrote. (He was clearly disappointed that the band had not picked HIM as Fleetwood Mac's new guitarist.) And here is another example:
On the 7th of April - weeks before Fleetwood Mac did the CBS interview and months before Lindsey Buckingham told his own version of what happened - photographer Joe Compton, who has been a backstage guest at Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers' concerts for 30 years, posted the following message on a Facebook page called 'Mike Campbell Fans': "The truth re my April 1 post - Mike will be lead guitarist on Fleetwood Mac tour ; Lindsey-Nicks issues came to a head - LB fired.”
Read also the fifth comment (No. 5 out of 98, so you may have to press "Earlier comments" a few times). Here Joe Compton says:
"Stevie started tour prep and finally decided she could not stand to work w LB---ultimatum to the band : Him or me. Band asked tour promoters did they want Mac w Stevie or LB? 20 to 1 vote in favor of Stevie...LB fired and Mike asked to join....I expect a second guitarist w good vcls to also join but don't know who."
Here is a link to Joe Compton’s post: facebook.com/groups/MikeCampbellFans/search/?query=joe%20compton
it should be noted that Joe Compton isn't a Lindsey Buckingham fan - and he doesn’t like Lindsey Buckingham as a person. (Read the second comment / No. 2 out of 98: “LB has too high opinion of self”.) No, Joe Compton is a fan of Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, so what interested HIM, was what guitarist Mike Campbell was going to do as a musician after the death of Tom Petty. Unlike most Lindsey Buckingham fans, Joe Compton thinks Mike Campbell is a great addition to Fleetwood Mac. And he obviously heard the news about the firing from Mike Campbell.
What Joe Compton said regarding Mike Campbell replacing Lindsey soon turned out to be true, and therefore many fans never doubted what he said about Stevie's "him or me" ultimatum. What he said about “a second guitarist with good v[o]c[a]ls also to join” also turned out to be true (when Neil Finn joined), so it’s pretty obvious that Joe Compton knew EXACTLY what he was talking about.
And that's not all: The 1st of July the famous Fleetwood Mac co-producer Richard Dashut who's been close to the band for years, posted to Twitter a message that confirms that Stevie forced Lindsey out of Fleetwood Mac:
"I’ve been asked for my opinion on Lindsey’s departure from FM quite a few times. Alright, here it is. I believe what has transpired amounts to the final chapter in Stevie’s & Lindsey’s relationship. Power balance finally tipped over. Creativity spilled, “never going back again“.
There is also a fan video of Lindsey talking to some fans about the imminent Fleetwood Mac tour and how he intends to do his solo gigs on the band's off days. Here is a link: twitter.com/savemeaplace/status/988489477986443265 This video was recorded the 27th of January, which was the day after the MusiCares event. And that's interesting because in the CBS interviews three months later the band claimed that at this point he had not agreed to tour! ... But why on earth would he then tell some fans about the imminent Fleetwood Mac tour? Mick Fleetwood claims they had hit a brick wall, but if that's true, why then did Lindsey talk about the love between the five of them, when he did his speech at MusiCares? It was pretty obvious that he wasn’t aware of any crisis in the band; (just like he says in the Rolling Stone interview).
On June 29th Lindsey's wife Kristen Buckingham (aka kbchrush) posted to Instagram a straight up denial of the band's story. She wrote: "He didn’t ask for any such delay. Ironically, they are starting later now than what they had planned with Lindsey."
She calls the firing: "Cruelest move I’ve ever seen. Lindsey did not deserve any of it."
Link: instagram.com/p/BkmFVqHAhT2/
That's why Lindsey himself said (on May 12th 2018) : "I have sadly taken leave of my band of 43 years, Fleetwood Mac.This was not something that was really my doing or my choice.”
There's no way around it: The band lied when they claimed that Lindsey wanted to postpone their tour. Stevie wanted Mike Campbell in the band and just needed some sort of excuse to fire Lindsey; hence the “him or me” ultimatum to the band - and the “Lindsey didn’t want to tour”-lie.
In October Lindsey told the Rolling Stone magazine his own version of what happened, and he pretty much confirmed what many fans already knew: That Stevie had given the band an ultimatum, "him or me":
www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/lindsey-buckingham-fleetwood-mac-firing-733460/
And later Lindsey was also interviewed by CBS:
ruclips.net/video/3Wvfj0zqBDo/видео.html
@@darkness_of_the_night ...Thanks for replying and for your explanation, apprec this indeed!! Glad to be more knowledgeable regarding all of the important facts here indeed!!
Being born in 1957, I've grown up on Fleetwood Mac through all of their transformations, and one of my favorite things about the band, has always been Christine, and her gifted unique singing and songwriting talent, and the way she has always shone, throughout the band's history, with upper echelon songs in her own personally unique genre. And all the while, seemingly hanging back in a very humble way, but when she comes up to bat, delivers the most soothing, beautiful, and powerful rock songs that I've ever heard. I'd like to have a giant collection of all Christine's original songs from the very beginning, all the way through. Someday I will make a collection of them.
When Lindsey says "that was so special" and Chris chimes back with " no kidding" my heart is filled with such joy! Can't wait for this amazing record to finally come out!
me too
I'm so excited that two of my favorite musicians are doing something together... just the two of them. Christine shares my daughter Sarah's birthday, July 12. Very cool. Thank you Christine and Lindsey. Peace always, Rick
So wonderful to hear those enchanting harmonies again. Thank you so much!
This makes me sad that Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey are at Odds.
It is not Fleetwood Mac and Lindsey at odds. It's Nicks at odds. Probably jealousy from not being included.
@@kuei12huhuh😂💆
@@kuei12 they really dont need her they are great without her
FM's fault, and I think they made the decision when Christine wasn't there so she couldn't exercise her diplomacy over the band.
@@Caroline-ms3kh True. The worst thing is that tMick falsely claimed that Christine was there, when the decision was made. (In this interview: www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mick-fleetwood-new-fleetwood-mac-important-remain-creative-not-tread-water-233748621.html) ... That's the problem with lying: Remembering what you and others said the last time.
I love this so much, so excited for the album. Wonderful to see them so happy together.
I remember seeing Fleetwood Mac in Edmonton back in the early 80's. Stevie was sick that night and didn't take the stage. We left that concert not disappointed at all because Christine stole the show. Lots of us came to see Stevie and still love her but it was Christine's night.
And...did they sing her songs?...
Pablo Pérez - The songs Lindsey arranged? Probably 🌟
@@pabloperez4063 They did Don't Stop even when Chrissy was out of the band. Stevie had Chris' part on it.
Stevie was always the least important part of the band.
Sounds great. Can't wait to buy the album. Love Christine's and Lindsey's vocals.
This is a great collaboration between two excellent musicians. RIP Christine McVie
So it's basically Fleetwood Mac here without Stevie....and they sound AMAZING!!!! You can see and sense the warmth and love and there's no tenseness! Makes you wonder...
Agree … I am only now appreciating what this is and how important
No it doesn't really he did not date Christine and maybe he knows she won't have his dramatics just because he is friends with Chris don't mean Stevie's the cause of Lindsey's past issues and he has also had tension with Mick Fleetwood and John Mcvie . Lindsey even chopped off the big 70s afro type hairdo he said it himself he was in the shower and just flipped out and cut it off short he laughed not saying he is a bad or evil person but Sheesh Stevie's not Either
Here, it’s sort of a follow up to the Album „Time“. Because Stevie’s part was taken over by Bekka Bramlett in 1995 during the album.
So great to see one of the greatest bands of all time back working and they have overcome so much pain and they are all still alive and kicking it’s awesome.
Lindsey still plays kick ass beautifully these dsys. Ive patterned my style aftet him and nils lofgren. Would aspire to reach their skill and talent. Rip Christine. She was like an angel..had a huge crush on her ❤
I love how Christine movie made Lindsey Buckingham so happy God bless her soul he's in heaven with this he's so happy thank you Christine
Thank you Christine for returning to the fold without you we wouldn't have this new music xx I hope you are happy xx you are wonderful!
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Beautiful, its good to hear again wonderful voices, Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham , amizing
It's wonderful that she is back and performing again.
I met her once at a party in the village in Kent where she lived for all those years, she was lovely very modest and had a wonderful sense of humour.
I didn't realise who she was until sometime later when. Someone said she lived there, she was just like anyone else enjoying an glass of wine and having a nice time she never mention what she had done in the past or who she was.
I know she felt isolated in the end living here, but I also know that she loved it at first and that it was only the later years she appear to withdraw from being out and about, she was quite often seen in her Range Rover driving around . Its a pretty part of England close enough to London and a lot of celebrities have homes here too , the locals would have respected her privacy and let her get on with life .
Her house was beautiful in a very sort after village, she certainly knows the best places to live that's for sure.
Can't wait for the new album and it's great to hear her back in action again.
What a great collaboration. Bummer recent events have probably killed any future works together. I think Mick and Stevie should've considered more what the fans would like. After all without the fans what is there?
Multi-millionaire pop stars with big egos worry about themselves first. They're sensitive artists, don't you know.
I´m in tears, what such amazing souls
I was at their concert in Murphy's. CA last night. I'm 49 and seeing Lindesy at least was on my bucket list. Let me just say: SHIVERS!!!!
IMO Lindsey is one of the greatest singer songwriters in human history. His singing voice is one of the most unique, attractive, and greatest of all time. Their voices together are magic.
As much as "Say You Will" is a very good album, you could really feel Christine's absence. This record, dare I say, is better than "Say You Will" simply because it feels so effortlessly heartfelt; these two really appreciate each other as musical partners in a way Lindsey & Stevie have trouble reaching. Great record.
This album is good but Say you will is def very underrated
Hasta luego Cristina QEPD 🙏♥️✌️ te amaré por siempre...
This should’ve been a FM album, Stevie Nicks be damned. The last Mac tour was the Stevie Nicks show with Fleetwood Mac. Christine and Lindsey were always committed to their art, but lately Stevie has become more and more of a megalomaniac. Between bizarre quotes and making her HOF induction all about her that night, it was a little too much.
That's how lots of fans feel, but I don't think any of them would want to alienate Stevie or hurt her, they all loved each other too, the egos of L&S would clash, they had a passionate relationship with lots of baggage from the past... but yes, Christine did get to shine on this album, she could get along with L or S, English Gentlewoman that she was! (Brits are generally more civilized than us Americans lol)
I would like to hear the bizarre quotes though!?
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Stevie made a comment on how glad she was that she had an abortion many years ago. Without getting into THAT debate, who would be glad that they had an abortion and then to mention it during an interview without being asked? Especially when she had the financial means to take care of it. Stevie is whacked. She’s made plenty of weird self centered comments in the past couple of years. It’s like she can’t get enough attention. Giving the band an ultimatum to tour with her and not Lindsey… demonstrates that she’s become an insecure megalomaniac.
It’s a follow up to „Time“ from 1995 if you will. Stevie wasn’t involved in the process of that album, (Bekka Bramlett joined as a Session vocalist for that Album) and not on this (Christine and Lindsay filled the gaps in singing lead vocals).
Just wanted to thank you guys so much for the TANGO IN THE NIGHT DELUXE release!
Especially the classic Music Videos for BIG LOVE and LITTLE LIES!
This was recorded AS A FLEETWOOD MAC ALBUM. It was only after Stevie refused to contribute anything it was released as Buckingham McVie. It’s all in Mick’s last book - he writes about doing these songs and waiting for Stevie to come and add her songs to it.
A follow up to „Time“ (1995) if you will. The one that featured Bekka Bramlett as a session singer in the band for that album. While Stevie rejoined for the Live Album „The Dance“ two years later
The Say You Will album was released under the FM name but barely had Christine on it at all. Does Stevie Nicks' involvement decide whether they call it a Fleetwood Mac album or not?
@@jasonkentros1633 yes because she calls the shots now. Sad and pathetic.
@@jasonkentros1633 Although Christine visited the family to play on Bleed to Love her, Steal your heart away, Everybody finds out.
@@tieukhavu8832 those tracks were already recorded before The Dance, they were recorded for a LB solo album. Those sessions turned into the reunion and they did The Dance.
Lindsey, Christine, Mick, John & Stevie are creatively geniuses.
And like so many creative geniuses they clash and push buttons in one another.
In many examples especially with musicians I think that edge is where legendary songs/performances are born.
I wish they could be the band for all times, that we/and likely they want, but of course that can’t happen.
We are lucky it came together at all.
Magic chemistry between the two.
They have always been my favorites from FM. And to have John and Mick there makes it all the better. I'm going to see them on the 30th and I'm so excited. This is the real FM. Shame on Stevie for not wanting to be a part of this wonderful work.
And the album is going to be awesome! "In My World" is already a fave.
I honestly want to hear another Buckingham/McVie album.
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Unfortunately not 😭🥺
I’m a relatively new fan of FM, although when I bought my first “ghetto blaster” type tape player, I got the demo which had a copy of rumours in it. Now this was during my early punk rock years, so not my first choice. Fast forward around 50 years and I can’t get enough of them, both early and later versions, up til Tusk. But I’ve always loved Christine McVie, and she continues to be one of my favourites all time singer/songwriters.
I can’t believe how amazing Christine looks at her age!
Evan Bakerian she sat in the English countryside drinking wine for 16 years. There ya go, there’s your secret
Adrenochrome for sure
Still looks like an Angel
John playing fretless at 6:29 - nice!
Rest in Peace Christine. Will miss your beautiful and soulful voice.
Harmony ❤
These two are the stalwarts of FMac, they work together perfectly well, no ego, no drama.
Sad that the songbird flew
This is exciting.. Bringing Christine to the front and highlighting her enormous talent alongside Lindsey Buckingham's. John and Mick what more could you ask for?? I'm glad in a way Stevie isn't involved.
@@kathyhays4025 That's some weird stuff to say considering there is no way in hell that you could know what actually happened between these people and how any of them feel about it. Take the aluminum foil hat off and grow up.
@@bX-rk2oo Actually, some of the things that Stevie has said in interviews when discussing Buckingham have been extremely arrogant, controlling and bitter. Buckingham has never had anything vile to say about Nicks, publicly, , as far as I know. He made her, and she tried to destroy him.
kuei12 - so true! She has talked about having to hid from wives of the married men she was with..
Of course
Lindsey Buckingham is such a silver fox 😍
He's still hot.
what a talent, glad he's moving on, like a cat, will always land on his feet
@scottjamescouper and that's your opinion.
@@BDavis820 My God
Listen carefully at 2:11 and again at 2:44. There's a little refrain from Lindsey's guitar at the end of new song "On With The Show", which is exactly like the one from "You and I, Pt. II" from the Fleetwood Mac's album "Tango In The Night", written of course by both Lindsey and Christine McVie.
This link between the two songs is a nice touch, considering the latter is probably the last song this duo wrote together. Love it.
Santiago Figuerero m that could actually be a little hat tip to those times....
Indeed! Also nice seeing the FM's penguin behind Christine at 0:02
YES! That's the first thing I noticed!
Well spotted and Tango is a great album. Isnt It Midnight and Tango too
This collaboration and the finished work.of these two amazing musicians is Epic in its time ! The respect and friendship they have for each other is a grand show of the way solidarity should be among colleagues ! The two people Fleetwood Mac can not do without made some truly great music together ! Meant to be ! 🌿
Missing you Dear, Beautiful Christine ! 🍃🌸🍃
Lindsey, keep on Rocking and marching to the fabulous sound of your guitar and
your voice ! 🍃☘️🍃
To you both, well done and
Thank You ! 🍃🌱
The atmosphere in the studio seemed to be quite positive: a first for Fleetwood Mac!
Because Stevie isn't there. I love her to bits, but it seems as though she was the root cause of most of their fighting and disagreements over the years. :P
Maria K - I think you are right. The other four don't seem to have any problems, tensions or drama with one another.
Yes, unfortunately Stevie seems to have become the consummate rock and roll narcissus and has been for years. Its sad as i have loved her music for years but i have also noticed her narcissistic tendencies for years.
HAHA,that has to be a joke right? seeing as she was fighting withLB,Christine was sleeping with the sound engineer whilst still married to John and mick was on a serious cocaine trip.The whole band was screwed up,but made some of the BEST music ever at the time.
It's possible Stevie simply enjoys the freedom of dong things on her own. As a writer she would be one of three in the Mac. Solo she can do whatever she wants. Besides, she likely still feels the pressure of Lindsey's genius hovering over her. There are RUclips clips of Ms. Nicks from her current tour, some with Chrissie Hynde (the Pretenders share the billing) and she appears to be having good fun. Also worth noting is that guitarist Waddy Wachtel is in her band, having bowed out of Joe Walsh's excellent touring group to rejoin her.
This whole project is becoming better and better by the minute. It seems every song is a winner. Great to have a little homage to TITN in On with the Show with the sample of You and I in it. Very adequate since that Album also is a Lindsey/Christine/Mick&John effort! For my taste nothing is missing here!
Every song is so great. wow!!!
No band has this connection. It's unreal
Riordan Pett The band fired Lindsey a few days ago. Why?
Well ya know, it may be because they all had sex with each other and/or each other's other,and/or lighting technician. Sorry about the stage-hand comment, Christine, but WTF? Were all of the mange truck drivers taken?
The only two who didn't at one point sleep with?
Cream
They were true partners on this album. Four singles were released. The first was by Buckingham. The next two were by McVie. The last was by Buckingham. There were 10 songs on the album, five by each artist although they did help each other a lot with all the tracks for the most part. The album managed to get over 60,000 in sales giving it silver status in the USA. Core Mac fans liked it as it was similar in sound to Fleetwood Mac.
Now I know why Stevie Nicks threw Lindsey out of the band. This project sounds fantastic and Nicks had 0 to do with it , Talk about being vindictive
They should make another duet album. Some songs about Lindsey being fired from the Mac. Maybe another Go the hell your own way Stevie. Am I bitter? Yes!
Another Fleetwood Mac album without Stevie - That would be a great idea. But with the same lineup as it was shown in the film here
Christine always is dignified
Love it. Cannot wait for this album!
If you ever bopped to Fleetwood Mac in the late 70's to early 80's you have to watch this. It the FM Magic is still there, even if they are all getting on a bit now. So, the sound is a little more mature which makes it great, and that the vibe is better than ever. I agree. This may well be the best album yet from the band.
To Lindsey and Christine : It would be really great to see you and the rest of the crew in South Africa.
Wow, the magic they create together is heavenly! Those harmonies are pure FM, gave me chills to listen to these short samples of the new songs. Can't wait for the Buck/Vie CD!
Love love this! Lindsey guitar Christine voice! Fleetwood Mac flavor without the drama, drugs, delusion. Just great music for old Mac fans.
This has to be one of those rare albums that from the first track to the last, is outstanding!!! Just FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!
I am remonded of Double Fantasy by Lennon and Ono. Just when you thought you were thru with them...They reel you back in! The ego is gone from center stage and all thats left is the music. No posing ortrying to be rock stars, but to just let it happen. Lindsay is one of my favorite guitarists. His picking style is undulicated anywhere. His hands must be raw sinew. And he is so fast. He makes it look easy, and let me tell you, Ive been playing since 1965...and few muicians have moved me as he does.
I just bought mine, I'm thinking it's going to be great as well.
The sound is back! Like it never left!
I have a feeling Carnival Begin will be my favourite song off of this album...
Maria K. It's mine. Amazing
What a beautiful woman Christine McVie is and always has been.
BTW..."Out Of The Cradle" was a complete masterpiece. IMHO the best work Lindsey has ever done.
Two great artists with such a nice bond. I am so glad they had this experience and shared it, in light of Christine's recent death. I love the music they made together.
Nice to see them both making music.
The sneak peak into some of the tracks sounds great! It still has that Fleetwood Mac sound. They should've just made it a Fleetwood Mac. Who cares in Stevie Nicks isn't doing it. They still have Lindsay, Christine, Mick and John. The band has had many incarnations with some members not there, then they'd rotate.
That was an amazing look into your creative & personal lives! It's quite touching! Congrats! Great Duo! Love you both! xoxo
What a wonderful record these two have produced! All of the colors and shades of emotion and such atmosphere... it's just wonderful and watching this documentary is the icing on the cake! Cheers - Luther 😉👍
This makes me happy
love christine mcvie early music with fleetwoodmack love i saw lindsey buckingham when he toured solo and he play in alb nm he was alot of fun and a great time for sure
This album is a joy to listen too. It’s unbelievably sad that this group of people couldn’t find a way to make this a final Mac album. As much as I love Stevie’s songs I don’t miss her contributions on this. It does baffle me that she couldn’t find the time to sing even just 2 songs into a microphone somewhere in the world and let Lindsey do his thing with them. There was clearly a bond between the 4 of them involved in this project. It’s interesting that it took such a short amount of time and without the drama that seemed to be a constant with all of the previous albums. It does make you wonder who caused the drama.
I really appreciate that Christine and Lindsey still have the need to produce new music. The constant rehash of old stuff on tour has become tedious.
Sooo awesome to see you two together again! Wow you both look great!
A many of you do not know that Christine was musically involved way before Lindsey and Stevie Nicks. They hooked up to a really gifted artist. She worked with Stan Webb!.
Great inside peek, sad that it won’t happen again
This album should be HUGE! The parts in the story sound great.
Made my millennium!
Absolutely heartbroken hearing the news today. Fly high Christine...💙