Jaguar X-Type Estate Review | More Than A Mondeo?
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- Опубликовано: 20 июл 2024
- This week on Buckle Up, Harry takes a drive in his brand new (to him) Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaag, an X-type 2.2d Sport Estate. Is it really just a Mondeo in drag? Are all old Jags bags of bolts? Should you buy one? keep watching to find out.
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Very underrated car and it has certainly aged well. The interior is outdated but the exterior still looks very good even by modern standards.
I like the interior. Most cars these days are just plastic nastiness. The X-Type is a nice place to sit.
I'm a big fan
@@BuckleUpShow whats gone wrong?
What do you mean?
great car with the typical Jaguar interior which is never ever going to be outdated because it's classic, timeless, elegant and super functional. The suspension is really remarkably comfy, almost posh. As an XJ/Daimler owner the suspension of the X-Type gets as close as it gets to its bigger siblings. The car sits well on the street and the steering provides a lot control. The 2.2 diesel engine is a torque monster that makes overtaking an easy thing - but - it's not a racer engine. It lacks punch at higher speeds and higher RPMs. But that's a none issue for a daily driver. The engine sound is very, very rough and makes quite an ugly kaputt tractor noise (even for a diesel, especially when cold at idle). After the engine has warmed up the noise gets better but still noisier than Diesel engines of the same era from France, Italy and Germany. Weaknesses are turbo and EGR (as it is with many other common rail diesel engines). So in case the spiral sign lights up in your dash together with a message "transmission failure", then replace turbo and egr (or get them refurbished) - don't bother to search for anything else. This is a car that must be driven a lot and ideally on longer distances. Then it will last for hundreds of thousands of km. I own X-Types since 10 years and the car(s) have proven to be very reliable with a generally low cost of maintenance. Some parts can be taken from the Mondeo. But! It's really not a Mondeo. It's a genuine Jaguar. When comfort, roominess, good style, reliability and low maintenance are the key criteria, then overall the X-Type is one of the best Jags ever built. Rust is generally a non-issue except maybe at the rear hatch around the chrome bar. I let both bodies seal with wax from the inside so I trust they will be good for many years to come.
P.S. I have both X-Types. One with sport suspension and one with normal suspension. I definitely prefer the normal, much more comfortable suspension. When comparing the handling of both X-Types, I feel the normal suspension is not only more comfortable but also provides better control and more driver confidence. It works better for me, especially on bumpy roads (of which there are many in Europe).
Noise is alternator pully,need an over run pully on,then quiet.
Great video and review. Good, balanced discussion of the pros and cons of the car and you're a natural presenter.
Thanks so much for watching David! Plenty more videos coming along very soon.
Had one for 9 years - well beyond the point that I would normally change my car for something newer, because they are so fantastic.
Built quality better than my current E350d. (The dealer refused to give me a px price).
Remapped to 190bhp and they will have more than adequate power, and I once got 70mpg on a run.
My original clutch was still strong at 193,000.
Shame that you didn't get one with all the toys - I had a Sovereign. Lovely beige leather and real walnut.
Negatives are cills rust, electronics are flakey, and EGRs don't last very long unless blanked off.
But I still remember the first time that I saw the estate. I was gob smacked as they were just so pretty for the era (and I was driving a brand new Alfa at the time).
Mondeo chasis is good. Transit 2.2d engine is even better ☺️
I'm certainly a big fan
Nice review, all the things you need to know - I loved the look of these when they were first released.
Cheers Muso! That’s the Ian Callum magic!
I have the 2.2D ,,, love it ,, and its Part Mondeo so can be worked on in the same way without specialist tools
Exactly
Never looked twice at them years ago I’m a big jag xj6 fan I still own one but had the chance to buy a 2006 sport estate with all the bells and whistles sat nav cruise cd stacker 2.2 diesel excellent mot history and I love it will definitely be buying another one !
Thanks for watching Dean, You're absolutely right the X might not quite have the same cool as the XJ but the estate with that engine makes pretty much the best all rounder I could have got for my money
Quite a light but comprehensive review of this 15 yr old model of the 20% by parts out of the Mondeo bin and let’s not forget how good a vehicle the Mondeo was and still is! You’ve mostly done your homework,but to point out that the 2008 facelift 2.2d has an Aisin Warner auto box that is super slick and very reliable! I have a year 2010 that has done 139,000 miles, super smooth, comfortable and turning in 43-47 mpg! I have however fitted a Flashlube Catchcan Pro to save the-nightmare egr-dpf failure probs with this particular model! The panic inclusion to meet euro 4 regs meant an inferior egr valve was fitted to the Ford Puma engine, which gets oiled up from crankcase fumes, that in turn from over fuelling, poisons the D P F...£2k plus to resolve...or if it’s not melted..£125+ refurb by the brilliant DPF Clean Team! WORKS!!! All this just FYI and to reinforce that these are great cars! Even Clarkson said so! Cheers all, stay safe too!
Thanks for watching Nigel, I've always loved the mondeo and I've never really considered the connection detrimental as others seem too. I didn't know the face-lift had that gearbox I thought they had only made then with ZFs, thank you for the info!
I had a silver 2004 3 litre V6 petrol X-Type saloon with AWD and manual gearbox. My first Jaaag. So stable on country roads, and very quick off the mark, yet comfortable and surprisingly practical. Could go fast too when I needed it and MPG was not too bad at or around 30 mpg if driven carefully. (Did yours not have the little hook on the glove box handle? Perfect for hanging a takeaway!) Best thing about the Jaguar X-Type was the flashy lights trick with the fog lamps. Brilliant at getting lane hogs to suddenly remember the Highway Code and move back into the left hand lane!
It did have the hook
I bought my 2.2 diesel estate 6 speed manual on last month, and I like it a lot. If you are thinking of MPG I am getting I think late 30's in town, and mid 40's at around 75 MPH on the motorway.
I've been getting mid 40s MPG while cruising at 90 on my private test track in Mexico, I assume if you really wanted to hypermile it would offer even more than that
You also have a fault finding system on your display! Ho,d the indicator stem down before inserting key and I think it’s two clicks forward with key, though it may be one,very useful.💜
Thanks for the heads up, Paul!
Great cars, I've got two diesel estates, a 2.0 manual and a 2.2 manual, very underrated.
Totally agree!
Thanks for sharing this super informative video! I’ve just purchased a 2009 2.2 diesel auto. Great price for my first ever estate. It’s in great condition for a car of its age, with only 80k on the clock.
I get the whole ‘ugly duckling’ thing. Not the appearance, but the Mondeo/Jaguar red headed step child attitude. Anyway, a you said, it’s an absolute beast of a hatchback, with loads of space, the suspension is , well, sporty. I also share you’re reservations regarding then vanishingly shallow sidewalls in this age of banana republic road conditions.
Glad you're enjoying it
This car actually grabs some attention in Portugal. I've got new shocks and lowering springs but i wish the steering was more direct because the car does handle very well considering it's weight and FWD. And the brakes... Idk if its my car but they are so spongy, i drive like a grandpa because of the car. Oh and it's the 5 speed diesel and gearing is similar to the six speed but lacks the last gear, unfortunately. It's my first car and will keep for some more years, 4 years already in :) Great video and i wish you great motoring miles!
Thanks for watching!
Tedious, ill informed clichés about the X Type being a Mondeo; it isn't. the chassis is heavily modified and only a maximum of about 30% is shared with the Mondeo, most variants are less than that. The 2.2d is not the van engine, the 2.0d is the Transit/Mondeo engine. I have a mint condition 2.0d SE and its much better mated to a manual gearbox than an auto. It has its design foibles for sure but overall most X Types are reliable if chosen judiciously, such a post 2004 model and from somebody who has maintained it appropriately. My brother's cosseted 5.0 XKR is far more troublesome than my humble X Type. It does have some irritating design flaws such as the crap door handles. I'm afraid you are talking through your well intentioned arse about the 2.0d being tiring, it's not quick off the mark but it's got decent midrange torque and is relaxed on the motorway, 70mph is at 2,000 revs, so I don't get the inference that it struggles. The 2.0d engine is a sodding pain to work on but it's not inherently unreliable.
The X-Type doesn't have a chassis, it has a monocoque which shares its architecture with the mondeo. Yes it is heavily reworked, its actually has different overall dimensions, and Jag got to fully redo the suspension, but it still shares a ford platform. Importantly, this is not a bad thing.
The 2.2 is a van engine, but it actually debuted in the X-Type and Mondeo ST220 before it made it into a transit.
"In 2004, Ford introduced the Duratorq ZSD-422, a 2.2 L (2,198 cc) turbodiesel for top-of-the-range versions of the Mondeo and Jaguar X-Type which produced 155 PS (114 kW; 153 hp). This is unrelated to the PSA DW12 2.2 unit used in Peugeot and Citroën applications.
Applications:
Ford Transit
2004-2007 Ford Mondeo 2.2 TDCi 155, 155 PS (114 kW; 153 hp) and 355 N⋅m (262 lb⋅ft)
2004-2009 Jaguar X-Type
2011-2016 Land Rover Defender
2011-2021 Ford Ranger T6 & Mazda BT-50 2.2 TDCi / MZ-CD 2.2 110 kW (150 PS; 148 hp) & 375 N⋅m (277 lb⋅ft)
2012- 2016 Ford Transit Custom
2015-2021 Ford Everest 2.2 TDCi
2007-2016 Peugeot Boxer/Citroën Relay"
Pretty much any car can be reliable if "chosen judiciously" (good condition, good service history and known preventative maintenance done), this is the definition of a non point. Similarly I think your brother is unlucky, as high performance V8s go the supercharged 5.0 AJV8 is pretty easy to live with, perhaps it needs driving more and cosseting less.
My points on the 2.0 were based of forum comments from multiple accounts, rather than on first hand experience, I'm thrilled to hear you don't share their complaints. I don't think I called it unreliable at any point though, or not any less reliable than the 2.2?
Both the diesels are susceptible to turbo issues and EGR problems, a combination of a fairly rudematary emmisons system and most x-type first owners being rather sedate drivers due to their advanced age. Theoretically a high mileage petrol has less to go wrong, but they need timing belts to be serviced and they tend to be quite thirsty so I would still say the 2.2 is the pick of the range for most people.
@Buckle Up Yes, apologies, I should say platform not chassis. Lots of valid points there, although I'd still argue the 2.2 shouldn't be referred to as a van engine. I avoided the 2.2d because of its extra complexity and dpf. Somehow, DVLA have been charging me just £180 p.a.road tax which seems bizarre but I'm not complaining. I would take slight issue about all cars being generally reliable if picked judiciously, there are many that aren't such as a TVR or several FIAT models (hence continuing the fix it again tomorrow.). When I said judiciously, I was including variant in this, the higher performance X Types definitely do have plenty of issues. They certainly all have weaknesses, some of which include crap door handles with sticking doors (a Jag speciality), weak boot mechanism, weak fuel flap linkage, eating front coils/mounts, vulnerable power steering unit, stupid ignition key stages, poor 'cigarette lighter' socket which eats fuses, sill problems (although mine are fine), fiddly controls when simple ones would be better, lack of folding rear seats in some and poor standard headlights. I don't see how the 2.0d can be extolled in the Mondeo and Transit yet slated in the Jag, there are some superficial differences and accessibility in the engine bay is very poor for some things.
The DPF only came fitted after 2007, as did limp home mode. A 2004 - 2006 2.2d avoids those inconveniences.
I've never heard anyone extolling the 2.0 in the Mondeo or the Transit, the only Puma unit I've seen affection for is the 2.4 fitted in some defenders as it's seen as more robust than the later 2.2 engine.
Thoroughly enjoyable review, unfortunately I just missed an estate 58 plate 130,000 miles new clutch & flywheel, front discs & pads for £2,000 I will keep on looking. Also your honest review gives me more confidence in buying as practically everybody I know seems to say don't touch a Jag there just money pits. Best wishes to you and hope you have some nice road trips.
I think the problem with Jags is even today their quality control isn't good, and those problems tend to exist from new so those trouble cars aren't the ones that make it to 100000 miles to be sold on the second hand market
@@BuckleUpShow Thank you for taking the time to reply. I will keep my eyes open for a good example with good or at least some service history. Thanks Kim.
Are you lookin' for 2.0 D or what spec, Kim?
@@mertgulcurgs Hi , I have the 2.2 diesel estate. Thanks Kim
The weird poppy out headlight washers are called cruciforms :D - They were used on the X-type, S-Type, and X308's (XJs), and yes, they fall off all the time. Most owners just disable the washers and blank them off. I think the major issue was the part weakening when used at higher speeds.
As you rightly say, the 2.2 manual diesel is definitely the one to go for. Albeit, the 2.0D isn't bad at all. Depending on your speeds, you'll quickly get it up to 5th and be happy plodding along at legal speeds averaging around 40-45MPG (I can confirm the gear ratio is completely different to the petrol versions). In terms of the petrol models, although some may disagree, I think the 3.0L is the one to go for. The smaller engines do not reward you with any notable extra fuel efficiency (the 2.0 petrol is only around 5-6 MPG better than the 3.0) and every other petrol engine aside from the 3.0L had a potential head gasket problem lurking (particularly the 2.5).
The only major faults you didn't note in the diesels were the DPF, EGR valve/hose, and turbo (failed actuator or clogged vanes). Albeit, these were problems for most retro-fitted cars during the beginning of the diesel emissions drive in the mid-2000s. - Oh, and that the X-type has a hatefully crammed engine bay meaning you have to have the hands of a child to change the light bulbs without swearing like a sailor and a lot of the common failure parts (alternator, aux tensioner) are amazingly difficult to access without lifting the engine out. A factor that wasn't helped by the fact that the standard headlight bulbs are akin to a candle in the abyss.
Good video!
Thank you for watching Mike! I suspect the 3 litre X type estate may well be in my future unless the XF Sportsbreak becomes an attainable alternative
3.0 had the transfer case problem as what i read from the forums , do you know if it is that bad ?
@@mikemayers9353 I can't say I've heard enough of it to think it a common fault. But iirc the AWD issue was more on the 2.5 than the 3.0.
@@PigeonPlucker all xtype 2.5 and 3.0 are awd . That “common” fault infound on forums asking for problems to look after .
@@mikemayers9353 Corrected due to a typo, but I'm afraid I don't quite understand your broken English.
The rear wiper pin is on a spring so you cant shut it in the wrong place! great cars
Yes I have since realised, Thanks for watching Louis
11 min. This bar helps to make the car more stable against twisting. That' why it has been made of massive metal. Of course, you can throw it away, but don't forget to cut off the airbags and safety belts as well...
I suspect that might be the reason but I couldn't find it written anywhere. Thank you for clarifying
The whole car was re-worked by Jaguar, and therefore much superior to a Mondeo. Great car to Tax and insure for younger drivers. Gentlemen's relish at its best. (Ignore the 'Ford' comments).
To insure, are you sure ? 2.2 diesel has just come up @£50 a year more than an a6 3.0tdi Audi !
Not sure how you managed that, it's significantly cheaper on the old insurance than my old 1.6 ford focus
@@BuckleUpShow is it a 2.2 ? They clearly don't like it !
Yeah it's a 2.2 manual. I figured it was lower cause they get in less accidents due to many of the owners being older more careful drivers than the other compact executive cars. Or Focuses for that matter. Maybe they figure it's a bigger theft risk than the Audi or something weird like that?
Not really fair or sensible to keep accusing it of being a Mondeo. It's not. It shares the Mondeo's extremely good chassis platform which is why you noted it has good handling and feel. All manufacturers share platforms across their ranges. For example my Audi RS5 shares its chassis with a VW Passat, Skoda Superb, Audi A4. The X-Type platform is also used in the Range Rover Evoke and the Freelander. Even Seat use the Ford Fiesta platform. Why not share a good thing? Also only 17% or parts from a Mondeo are used in an X-Type including the chassis bits, brakes, wipers, handbrake... Although I have had several other cars over the last 20 years, I have kept my 2001 X-Type 3.0 Sport AWD manual, because it is such a nice car. Mine is fully loaded with the big satnav screen, TV (no good now analogue is dead) premium sound and voice control. That's also what the button on the steering wheel is for. You can control all of the car's functions by voice if you have that option. "climate control 22 degrees" or "demist on", "changer play disc five track two" phone someone or select a sat nav location or whatever. VERY cool function in 2001 when I bought mine. Plus the manual could do 0-60 in 6.5 which was quick for 2001. So ahead of its time. And yet timeless.
David, I bought the car, so clearly I'm a fan. You have to Adress the mondeo thing its just so notorious at this point, but to be fair I would probably also mention the platform sharing if I was doing a VAG car it's just no one seems to blink at that. Which is odd when, in my opinion, the mondeo is a better starting point than the Passat.
And again you're very right about the lack of direct parts sharing with the mondeo, I can't think of another platform share that was adjusted so drastically to produce the same class of vehicle. Its worth noting that those parts are still ford with Jaguar R&D behind them though, just like the lovely AJ V6 is based on a zetec motor but with more advanced and efficient top end work. I want to stress I do not think any of these things are a bad thing.
If I stumble across a manual V6 at some point (especially an estate) I will probably buy it. Alas this one has been moved on as my car gets the duties of being the camera car for all the other reviews so I've traded into something a bit newer.
Hope you get lots more enjoyment out of your X-Type for years to come 😊
@@BuckleUpShow The 3 Litre is rather thirsty but it was bought in a time when that didn't matter :-) The engine is Duratec originally designed by Porsche but never used by them and sold to Ford. Mazda then worked their magic on it with variable valve timing, then Ford, Cosworth and finally Jaguar did the tuned intake system to squeeze out the last few hps. Quite an interesting journey really.
Sorry yes of course duratec not zetec, I get confused as some engines are called both at once. I definitely think they're worth the thirst though they're lovely units.
It is an excellent vehicle. Mine is a 2005 Jaguar x-type 3.0 automatic and premium gas. Complements come from everywhere on the look; both men and women. I think it is time for a tune-up. Does anyone know about how much it cost in the United States?
Being UK based i'm not really sure how much tuning an X type would cost in the states, also I am not sure how much can be done with the AJ30 V6 you have in yours as its naturally aspirated and already very well set up from factory, probably the only route for more performance would be some kind of forced induction but I do not know how well the ZF auto would handle extra power either. Basically at the end of the day if you want a sportier Jag you might be best off looking for a V8 S type
I just bought one for $3500
I bought a 2.1 auto, white SE full SH all old MOTs 2004 cream leather new discs/pads/rear calipers, immaculate interia everything works £1200. leave it for 3/4dys and starts on one turn, purrs along nicely-zero interest in 0-60 bs, I like my clean licence, who cares top speed in UK, love it.
Sounds like a great buy, may you keep on enjoying it for many years to come
@@BuckleUpShow Cheers mate-it was one owner from new, felt bad because the old guy cried when I collected it, he cherished it but couldn't drive anymore-I'm 67 and understand his emotion when you have to let something go.
Isn't Audi based on VW?
Infiniti on Nissan?
Acura on Honda?
Lexus on Toyota?
Genesis on Hyundai?
Lincoln on Ford etc . ..
Why did the X-type among all the other cars had to deal with this issue
No, Genesis is actually based on Hyundai, not Honda.
Hope this helps 🙂
@@BuckleUpShow ofcourse Hyundai that was just a mistake...
But seriously, yes you're right that is true, it's hard to know why the X-type Mondeo thing started but the fact is it's here now and It needed to be mentioned. I suspect perhaps it could be to do with the fact it completely broke the mould of how a Jaguar had been up until that point. I also suspect it lingers because X-type owners get so irritated by it being brought up which as an owner I find rather odd. Why is it a bad thing to have a car built off one of the best platforms Ford had at that time.
@@BuckleUpShow 100% agree. I drive a 2004 2.1 saloon and it feels every bit of a Jag when it is cruising down the road. The biggest mistake Jaguar did with the X-type is that it wasn't based on a rear wheel drive platform just like other compact executives.
100% agree
These Jags are nice cars, it’s no bad thing it’s a close relative to a Mondeo , I have a Mondeo that is sister to this car, Mondeo is a great car , this Jag wouldn’t be the first car to share a platform, one of my old cars was a Rover 600 (aka Honda Accord) again it was a great car based on another car . A lot take it badly when a comment arises what it shares with another.
I completely agree with you
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I'm thinking about buying a van similar to 2007 and would like to know what the common problems are with this engine and if it's really a safe bet
Same problem as any older diesel engine, carbon build up from an aging DPF. I know in the Jag it can build up on the turbo vanes and make the actuator arm stick but I don't know if the Van version uses the same turbo or actuator set up.
@@BuckleUpShow the van dont have DPF. ITS good right?
Awesome interview
Thanks for watching!
I binned the parcel shelf immediately after I bought my xtype. It's so heavy!
I just had my xtype 2.2 diesel estate remapped. Taking it from 155 to 185 bhp. Ha probably more like 120 to 150 bhp considering its done 126k. But it's a nice difference. Would recommend a remap.
I used to get around 36 mpg from it before the remap. I'm hoping to get more mpg now but I seem to be driving it harder after the remap so it'll be hard to gauge.
How much did a remap set you back mate, if you don’t mind me asking?
The parcel shelf helps keep the structure rigid though, I can feel the difference without it
I like the background music to this video . . . Veey theraputic
Cars reviews don’t have to be about pomp and circumstance 😂
good video I have a 2008 2.2d sovereign,hate to say it but the powershift 6 speed auto works a dream with this engine sport and sequential manual modes weather it will last long term is yet to be seen but so far all good on 126k miles and it was a very cheap car
The auto is good, but it's also to area of most common faults. The worst thing is the module for it is susceptible to water ingress so you have to be careful through deep puddles.
The auto is good, but it's also to area of most common faults. The worst thing is the module for it is susceptible to water ingress so you have to be careful through deep puddles.
@@BuckleUpShow thanks for the tip 👍🏻
Out of interest, what happened to the last two Ford Focus cars you owned before this?
One got written off by a hit and run from a quad bike driver and the other (which replaced that one) got traded in for the Jaguar X-Type because I wanted more boot space (mostly for all the camera gubbins we drag around to make this channel)
If this video gets 100000 views I'll buy an XJ
Come on people! Ruin this man’s bank account!
A proper Jaaaaaag if ever there was one
@@BuckleUpShow Agreed, I owned an XJR Sport in the mid 90's, and it wasn't a money pit, it was a money crater! Fantastic when it went, and expensive when it didn't!
you should have the headlight position set at 2 mister ;)
Do you mean the angle compensatior, why would I do that without a load in the boot angling the cars nose upward?
@@BuckleUpShow because 0 is not level . 0 is down . Read the manual . Beeing as its a ford and in my ford focus manual it says to keep it at 2 for 2 passagers and seeing as you are like me (a bulky chap) we are 2 people ;) .
This is from the manual
"0 - Normal Setting, Driver only
1 - Driver and one front passenger
2 - All seats occupied and maximum luggage
3 - Fully loaded vehicle and towing a caravan or trailer"
Seems like 0 is normal to me, since it's called "normal setting"
@@BuckleUpShow aha i keep my previous statement . Anyway nice car enjoy it ;) have a nice day .
@@BuckleUpShow more proof its far from a Ford (lol tongue in cheek!) :-P
Maybe move your initial car chat away from your house which seems to be on Hanger Lane in London or similarly busy road. The road noise distracts from what you are trying to say. Drive somewhere nice and quiet and then film?. very informative though.
I mean, I agree, that why it's one of two videos on the whole channel that got filmed there. I didn't have any help that day that's why it was there but as you will see basically every other review is filmed in a location like you described
It's NOT a Mondeo. It shares a modified platform, and some Ford electrics and brake components, but the modelling, engine, interior is all Jaguar.
The platform is actually smaller than the Mk2 Mondeo because otherwise it would have been more spacious than an S-Type. The result, when combined with a very un-Mondeo viscous coupling all-wheel drive, is a car that handles superbly, has adequate space for a family with 2 children under 12, and has aged very well, looking like a lowered XJS, but without the bulk.
It's a car that is often criticised by people who have never owned one, but when you look at the number of cars out there, now over 20 years old still delivering performance, handling and comfort, the X-Type would appear to be having the last laugh.
All of these changes were made because ultimately Jaguar was doing something they didn't want to do. When Ford told them they wanted to make a compact executive what Jag did is went and bought a 3 series BMW, slot an AJ V8 into it and tweak the suspension to show the ford execs what they thought a small Jag should be like. Ford wasn't interested and forced them to use the Mondeo platform that was FWD and too big which is what led to the shrinking and the borrowing of the freelanders awd system. Yes parts of the petrol engines are different and that's really benifited them in longitudinal applications where they has pretty much they highest specific output for regular Production N/A V6s at the time but in the transverse form they didn't provide any more grunt than the mondeo ST-220 which shared the engine block and basics. The diesels are even less changed and they lose the rear biased AWD edging them ever closer to mondeo. Also, you're right about the handling being good but I wouldn't suggest it's any better than that of a mk2 Mondeo either.
With all of this said, I agree with you. It's a great car, I love the way the estate looks. It's biggest downside from new, the dated interior, doesn't really matter any more because any 15 year old car will have a dated looking interior anyway and most importantly it does feel like the other big boy Jags from behind the wheel thanks to the tuning of the chassis, steering, refinent and handling. It also provides way more punch for the money than a beamer or Audi so that's why I bought one.
I do just lean into the mondeo thing though, I think it's a weird criticism. The mondeo was the best car in class when it was new. Why would anyone say no to a luxury one?
So...80% Jaguar 😊 that compares well to Audi's and Bentleys 🤫
Imagine if Bentley announced they were making a car based on a Passat that started off the range with a FWD 2.0 TDI
Titled: "I BOUGHT THE CHEAPEST JAGUAR YOU CAN GET", but you fail to give the all-important PRICE you paid!
I paid £700
@@BuckleUpShow OK, thanks for that. I'm amazed how cheap! It's a great car still (I have one) and yet to most people it's almost worthless. We have a totally wasteful, throw-away society here in the West and it proves our aparent concern for the environment and saving raw materials and not wasting stuff, is just PC nonsense. We are far more wasteful than any other part of the World!
Quality motor and not be long now for them in classic range and people be begging to own one fast.
Maybe the 3.0 manual will become a desired classic but I can't see anyone yearning for the 2.2 Diesel. Brilliant car for the money mind.
I've got 2.2 brilliant car
0:46 it’s 30% Mondeo 70% Jaguar
It's interesting every person who does this quotes me a different percentage, also lots of the "Jaguar" parts are still just modified ford designs so there are still lots of Blue Ovals stamped on everything if you start routing round the oily bits. Having said all of that I find it doesn't detract from the car in anyway for me personally, I think the Mondeo was brilliant and upping the Luxury only makes it better, much like moving up from a Passat to an Audi A4
@@BuckleUpShow It’s a budget Jaguar for Ford Mondeo money.
@@westcoast747 I don't think so. If you want to keep one in great shape, you gonna have plenty of fun chasing parts and looking for mechanics who can do the work. I'm in the progress of doing that on my own and money is required.
Wow, this is awesome. Much better than the Ford Focus. 2000’s Fords are german crap (vans are a separate thing). 👎
You know ford owned Jag in the 2000s right? They also owned Volvo. Ford Europe's platforms (with extensive modifications) underpinned the X-Type, C30, S40 and V50. They also all shared Ford Europe engines (with the Jag V6s being a little tweaked to make more power).
Also pretty much no one in history has though "oh no the Germans are involved in the development or building of a car, this will be terrible"
@@BuckleUpShow Yeah but they are still completely different cars and they’re completely different to drive. I have driven many Volvos, for the most V70, V60 I and XC60 I, and in my opinion they doesn’t feel indentic as Fords at all and you can’t notice the relationship with Ford at all in these cars. Everything is purely Volvo-quality and made in Sweden. Also in this Volvos which you mentioned the Ford-ownership does not appear anywhere, everything is 100% Volvo (I’ve driven also V50 few times). Same as in this Jaguar is everything 100% Jaguar quality and made in UK.
@@BuckleUpShow Jaguar's and Volvo's Ford-ownership was completely different than for example Skoda's and Seat's VW-ownership, where you can see the VW-quality everywhere in Skoda- and Seat-cars. The Dashboard, the buttons, the turning signal sound, engines etc., everything is familiar from VW-cars.
No I don't have to
Don’t have to….?
the rear brakes and handbrake on these cars suck, they are a problem, calipers and cables seize, same with the Mondeo, binding brakes are an issue and new calipers are expensive, walk away if you look at one and the brakes do not feel right, noise from crank pulley is another common Jaguar/Mondeo issue, and is expensive to cure
The handbrake is was corrected in 2004 by different Bosch callipers, cars after then are much better about it. I have never ever had a problem with mine even if its sat for more than a week in adverse weather conditions. Something that wouldn't be true of any car with drum brakes.
Jaguar did make a beefier crank pulley you can replace the old one with or you can change the alternator pully from a solid one to one with a clutch which can also solve the problem. As a preventative maintenance measure (one that will run you about £400 at a machanic) I'll take a it over VANOS or IMS bearings or any number of ingrained engine defects that require an engine-out from other luxury cars of this age
The Jaguar XF is more like a Mondeo than the X type.
Apart from the fact they're on entirely different platforms
@@BuckleUpShow The platform does not make it look like anything though, the XF looks a lot like a later mondeo, this doesn't.
Stanley Tucci sort of looks like Mark Strong, that doesn't make them related
@@BuckleUpShow Even so, look at a Jaguar XF and a newer mondeo, they are almost identical. The x type had unfair comparisons to a Mondeo, they only used the platform and the rest of it has a lot more than a Mondeo.
Are you an X Type expert ? ..... It seems you know all about the massive seat bolsters and tiny centre armrest combination then ? ... You're just trying to find faults with nothing positive to say
You realise I bought this with my own money right, by choice?
@@BuckleUpShow I didn't know that, I thought you were just another car reviewer like so many others are doing now and jumping on the bandwagon ?
No, this is my personal car, it is also the camera car for most of the other reviews on this channel. I like it a lot but the center console rubbing I still find mildy irritating
Watch the video theres plenty of positives thicko
It not a ford it jus the floar pane the it shares and that it It is not a mondao
This is certainly one of the comments of all time
A decent car let down by an awful interior finish
Have you sat in a mid 2000s BMW or Audi? The intiror pleasantness is one of the things that makes up for the FWD platform sharing nature of the X-Type, and it still looks decent (not just a sea of gray vinyl) and more importantly feels good today (the German rivals have a tendency to go very sticky/tacky)
@@BuckleUpShow actually i have been lucky enough to own all of this cars competitors however i think its only fair to compare it to its direct competition im 2000, such as the e46 and and b5 into b6 A4. The quality of interior in both is significantly higher, albeit arguably safe design wise. I used to work. In a jaguar dealership and we once had B6 A4 TDI for sale. We were absolutely blown away by the marked difference levels of engineering and overall quality - it was quite frankly in a different universe from the poor Old x type. Having been lucky enough to own an (unreliable)e90 3 series, w204 c class, B7 A4 and Lexus is250 i can honestly say the x type never stood a chance against any of them, especially the lexus which was superior to them all
I have the Sovereign and it is just as good as the old XJ interiors even wooden steering wheel with Alpine sound system!
@@gaffnaldo1 you bought the jag if your budget couldn't stretch to BMW or audi, jaguar priced them cheaper to appeal with people on a lower budget
🤣 Yes, dirty it is, but, you are not a Lady , so you are excused. At least I know how my hubbys car will look like in a week.
Thanks for watching
12% is ford,so it's not basically a mondeo,are you going to say plastic wood next😂sport is the poverty spc,SE has many more toys.x type saved jaguar.
Where to begin, around 20 percent (not 12)of parts are a true share, but that's obfuscates the point. Even the parts that aren't directly shared are often modified and jaguar tweaked versions of Ford parts. At no point did I say this was a bad thing but honestly, get over yourself. No it's a wood veneer but by all accounts there is a thicker layer of lacquer than there is of wood so it may as well be plastic.
"poverty spec" as you describe it (what a lovely classist take) was actually S, Sport and SE were considered more like choices depending on the buyer rather than a strict hierarchy of trim levels, sort of like if you wanted an ST-Line vs Titanium Ford.
The X-Type did not save Jaguar, it didn't even achieve half it's sales estimation over is eight year life span and the outlay that Ford's PAG made to have a high volume manufacturing plant for it made the company deeply unprofitable, and trend that is still strong with Jaguar to this day.
When Tata took over the X-Type had such a poor image they canned it immediately without a successor and didn't bother getting round to doing one until the XE came out in 2015 some 6 years later.
Of course this poor image it received makes it a bargain buy today and often cheaper than the Ford Mondeo it shares 20% of its parts with, so as a used buy it's an excellent choice.