Delphi Murders: The Case Against Richard Allen | Court TV Special
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- For six years a grainy cellphone video of a man saying “Down the hill” was all investigators had in the mysterious murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Now a former local drugstore technician is charged with abducting and killing the two young girls. In a new special - Court TV explores the evidence against Richard Allen and talks exclusively with his former lead defense attorney, and a best friend of victims.
00:00 The Case Against Richard Allen
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00:00 The Case Against Richard Allen
04:46 February 13, 2017
07:28 February 14, 2017
09:22 February 15, 2017
12:04 April 22, 2019
13:49 November 18, 2020
15:36 December 6, 2021
16:49 October 31, 2022
32:07 October 2023
#CourtTV Catch up on the #DelphiMurders here:
www.courttv.com/tag/delphi-murders/?
Thank you 🙏🏼♡⚘
Thankyou. Watching from Canberra, Australia 🇦🇺 🙏
Has the judge who recused himself and stepped down from the case, been investigated 🤷♀️ could he have something to do with this, and it’s the reason he couldn’t sit on the case (guilt) Has anyone even thought about that 🤷♀️I think it needs to be investigated further by outside authorities and investigators
The ADL??? Seriously, Court TV?!? The ADL, like the SPLC, considers anyone who doesn't have their specific point of view as "extremists". They consider patriotic Americans as "extremists". If you think the Constitution is a great document, the ADL considers you as an "extremist". Believe in free speech (which is obviously the 1st Amendment)? 2nd Amendment supporter? Yep, the ADL considers you an "eXtReMiSt". Believe in biology which proves there are only 2 genders? "eXtReMiSt". Don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? You guessed it, "eXtReMiSt". It goes on and on with the ADL and SPLC. It's absolutely unbelievable that Court TV would use them as a "credible" source. They are insanely left wing to the point of totalitarian. It actually causes me to not take Court TV seriously.
The ADL??? Seriously, Court TV?!? The ADL, like the SPLC, considers anyone who doesn't have their specific point of view as "extremists". They consider patriotic Americans as "extremists". If you think the Constitution is a great document, the ADL considers you as an "extremist". Believe in free speech (which is obviously the 1st Amendment)? 2nd Amendment supporter? Yep, the ADL considers you an "eXtReMiSt". Believe in biology which proves there are only 2 genders? "eXtReMiSt". Don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports? You guessed it, "eXtReMiSt". It goes on and on with the ADL and SPLC. It's absolutely unbelievable that Court TV would use them as a "credible" source. They are insanely left wing to the point of totalitarian. It actually causes me to not take Court TV seriously.
Long ago, a 9 year-old girl went missing in our hometown. Her body was found not far from our house. It changed our lives. To me and my 4 younger sisters, nothing felt safe after that.
Decades passed before DNA solved the case. It turned out that her killer was actually someone who'd never been on police radar. Two years after the killing, he had
committed suicide because, it was believed, that he felt law enforcement was getting close to arresting him.
By then, her parents had already passed away, but her brother was still alive to get the news.
Now, I hope Abby and Libby's families won't have to wait that long for justice.
Rest in peace, Debbie Randall. Extra angels of comfort to those who loved you.
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I just wanted to acknowledge what beautiful emotions and care you chose to show in this message. I'm sorry you lost your childhood. I'm so very sorry a 9 year old lost her life. What I take from this, is that no matter what rocks and stones come our way, it does not quell the kindness and beautiful nature you've illustrated today. @mortalclown3812 I wish you peace, compartments for troubles and love.
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Thanks you for sharing your sentiments. You expressed yourself well. I’m sure she would be very pleased with your comments and memorializing of her passing. God Bless.
How dear you are to remember her and share her name. I’m so sorry her life was stolen as well as you and your sisters lost too taken by such evil im sorry
Marietta back in the early 1970’s right?
Been following this case since 2018. What a mess
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Yeah really. And law enforcement simply refuse to admit they were wrong and screwed up big time and tried to hide this fact by pretending like it's such a "complex" case and the public needed protected from the probable cause affidavit. When in reality they didnt want everyone knowing that he came to them before they released his picture, just barely, and simply brushed him off. Had he waited til that next night to tell law enforcement he was there they would have lost this case forever by releasing that picture. He sure as hell wouldn't have come forward then. Like what the hell is complex about it? You have him on camera driving to the spot he parked his car. He walked to the bridge and kidnapped 2 kids took them down to a hidden area and killed them. They even have audio of the abduction. Then he walks out of there muddy and bloody and is seen by a witness doing so. I'm sorry but this is the least complex case I've ever heard of. How many abduction do they ever have audio of? And video of the guy approaching? This is all just the tip of the iceberg in their inexcusable incompetence. That's not even mentioning the mountain of reasonable doubt that they spent 5 and a half years to hand on a silver platter to defense. You got them stating in an affidavit they believe the property owner did it. You have transcripts of them interrogating a guy that they released a video for asking for information about and said to use the Abby and libby tipline, saying that he had planned to meet the girls there that day. You have all this and no one is even talking about it cause the court and attorneys mistook all the disfunction as tradition and are hell bent on keeping it going, making a mockery of the system as a whole. He should win an appeal just for his pretrial treatment. But I'm don't think his attorneys are very bright. They concocted some half baked conspiracy about human sacrifices, which if it was a group you would have seen two or more guys in the video. No way in hell a group is down there chilling and sends one guy to kidnap 2 15 year-olds. They are blowing a great opportunity to do what the state does to defendants and use their own words against them. I'd be emphasizing the fbi saying they believe Logan did it. As well as him trying to lie and make up an alibi which in their words is what a guilty person does. And the best part for them is the guy is dead and can't come in and sway the jury. Then you have kline, someone in prison for child porn and all their accusations to him. They are blowing a golden opportunity. They have 2 super impeccable alternate suspects who law enforcement said themselves did it and they are going with ghost and goblins. It's truly a who's who for who's most incompetent at their job and I'd put this group up against any group anywhere in the world. Sorry I'm from that state and ashamed.
I will ask you then. I am pretty sure this is a stupid question but did the FBI use the video to measure the guy on the bridge?
sounds like a psyop or something, none of it makes any logical sense and thats also your clue its all bs. why? who knows.
Seeing Abby & Libby’s friend grown up, driving, a literal adult now, is so bittersweet. I’m saddened she was made to complete her youth w/o her best friends😢. She’s well-spoken & articulate. I pray she has a good life. Justice for Abby & Libby.❤❤
@mom2babygkaterad946. I agree and felt/ thought the same.
I also hold high respect for her, the friend, Cynth’s parents for protecting her privacy during the horrible period after the murders.
I am glad that they protected her to the extent that I, and I suspect many others, were not familiar with her name.
She's also a singer songwriter working on her first album, google her name Cynth Rossi and you can find some of the tracks she's released already. She's a wonderful young woman who is very talented.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
I thought the same thing. Sometimes we lose the notion of how much time this has passed. Now looking at this girl, is like they would be this grown up now. Poor girls
My son was a year younger then Abby and Libby at the timemow( 20 now), but seeing her really puts it into perspective.
The fact that investigators took 6yrs. for an arrest in a small town mistakes were made left and right. IMO.
The small town wasn't ready for something this big. The tip line was piling up and the leads were overwhelming a small amount of investigators. Just think of all the people they ruled out. Richard Allen tells a conservation officer about his whereabouts about the time of the murders. This information got misplaced or didn't draw any red flags with the conservation officer. This mistake is why this has taken so long!
@@user-fi5zl1vc1cbull. They didn't look at certain people because of ties to the prosecutor.
They had to pin the tail on the donkey, election of new sheriff was in two weeks. They elected the wrong sheriff ( the corrupt one) who is happy to help with the cover up! LE did not do a proper investigation, they hid, lost, erased, lied about evidence from the very start of this case. FACTS!!!
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@@user-fi5zl1vc1cbut the only reason it got that big is because they made it that big. Had they done just the bare minimum of due diligence the case would have been solved before the first tip even comes in. They are so unbelievably lucky Allen went to them before they released the photo of him the very next day after the bodies were found or this case would never have been solved. How you don't clear him before running to the media is beyond any rational comprehension. He's telling them he was on the bridge at the time of the abduction because he thinks it's OK to tell them that because he didnt realize libby recorded him. So as far as he knew they had no clue where the abduction had taken place. I mean come tf on. When he came to them there was no 20,000 tips and he was somewhere in the middle. There were next to no tips and a very short list of the people who came to them claiming to have been there that day. I truly truly do belive they were more worried about getting in front of cameras than solving the case. They knew it was going to be a national story and Carter the clown and his circus came and crapped on everything. I remember Carter doing an interview about his first press conference on the case and he said there was discussion on who should do it. It came down to him or carrol county sheriff Tobe Leznby. It was decided that he was a better speaker so the decision was made for him to do the presser. This was what they were discussing when Allen was trying to tell on himself. That case should have never left delphi. They weren't overwhelmed by tips then. They were overwhelmed with their own vanity knowing that they were about to be known all over the country. I'm just picturing Allen having just went and told law enforcement he was on the bridge that day and basically by the time he gets home his picture is plastered all over everywhere. He had to have thought they were playing mind games with him. Especially when Libbys aunt comes in and has him print her memorial pictures. He had to start thinking he was living in an alternative reality or dreaming. Nope just the most incompetent investigation perhaps in the history of man afforded him 5 and a half years of freedom.
Abby and Libby hit me hard, maybe Abby’s photo with the hat. When I was in fourth grade a man tried to get me in his car when I was walking home from school. My friend who went towards her home on the next block heard me screaming and came back. Just enough to get him to flee in his car. To me she saved my life.
Cynth Rossi I much appreciated how beautifully you spoke about both Abby and Libby. Your story puts into perspective the impact on friends, classmates, and the community. I hope you find peace and happiness. I watched you knowing they should be your age. Hugs to you.
You made me cry, I was going to comment but you said it all.
I pray for everyone involved. This should not have happened!! No one seems to be safe anymore!! 🩷🙏🏽🩷
It's not fair for the children. We live in a terrible society when you can't trust anyone anymore.
Yes, I feel like I know sweet Abby and funny/silly Libby. They are our little girls 🦋🦋
When I was 5 or 6, around 1987, a man showed up at my school trying to check me out. Had all of my info and said he was there to get me.
Thank, God the secretary In the office knew me personally and just had a bad feeling. She went to go get my file because they weren't on computers back then, and when she got back, the man had left.
She wasn't going to let him take me from school. To this day, it still blows my mind that a stranger was able to get all of my info and was brave enough to try and check me out of school as if he were a family member.
Crimes against all children are disgusting
Not having this trial televised is a big mistake. Already looks sketch
Yesss!!!!
I have read the documents of this case and this judge is something "special" that's for sure. You know, the judge that signed the search warrant for Richard's house just resigned?
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@@Indy69vette what does that matter? They hacked Kegan kline devices THEN got a search warrant knowing what they were going to find. His attorney must really be worthless cause it's clear as day he has a legitimate case of illegal search and seizure. I know there's always work arounds to the constitution but they aren't even trying anymore. They just blatantly violate your rights and your only hope is that your lawyer will care enough to file an appeal to an appellate court and they will care enough to look at the case and care enough about the actual person's rights to overturn something. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending klines actions only his rights which were clearly violated. If they make that the norm, to be able to hack into anyone's devices cause they are on someone's friends list who were apart of an entirely separate case and look for any illegal activity and if found get a warrant for it then start an entirely different criminal case that quite frankly is a huge violation of privacy and rights. How many of these scumbags in law enforcement hack their wife's or girlfriends phones or whoever they want to spy on for personal reasons? I just hate that they can do that without a warrant legalor otherwise. We really do need a para police force who's only job and authority is arresting police who violate people's rights or conduct other illegal activities. Having them investigate themselves is a joke.
This is a cover up. I pray somw outside forces get involved
My law professor in college asked the class "Is it better to have a justice system that results in more guilty people roaming the streets or more innocent people sitting in jail?" . If they have the wrong guy, I feel for him and his family. Hopefully there will be more clarity once the trial starts.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
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Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
not only may an innocent sit in jail, but imagine the treatment someone accused of this kind of crime gets!
the possibility of innocence is not considered by other inmates, they only look at the charges... even now before any conviction they consider him guilty, and also the guards! if he is convicted he will have to spend that time in solitary or constantly be under fear of being attacked.
even in protective custody he will be in danger, the only people he can socialize with are the worst of the worst offenders in there.
every time he eats a meal he will wonder what is in it...
if he gets convicted and is innocent, it will be a tragedy for him!
i hope the jury gets it right!
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Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
If someone innocent ends in jail, then the guilty one is in the streets anyway. The right thing is to not mess-up the investigations.
One of the saddest things is seeing how much older their friend is now. Both girls would be in their twenties now, had their lives not been cut so short.
I never knew that Allen is only 5'4". That is a very, very short man, and it would be the first thing that witnesses would notice. Yet none of the witnesses mentioned that they saw a very short man. That's extraordinary.
And LE treats RA as if he’s King Kong in his court appearances; chains, a leash, all the accessories that imply he’s a monster.
He is a very small man.
Allen being so short might be the biggest blessing of his life. The defence have mentioned about getting the infamous 'bridge guy' footage analysed and it coming back strongly in their favor.
3 out of the 4 witness’ were kids and the one adult was driving down the road when they saw the “muddy and bloody” guy. From a kids perspective they might not have really noticed he was short idk. It’s definitely strange. Moreover I’m really confused how the bridge guy video hasn’t been analyzed to determine his height. If bridge guy is 5’4 - 5’6 would match RA, if not, then I think that would be a big piece of evidence for the defense.
No way was that guy on the bridge 5’4 .
@@zachrhoads2396 I'm 5'4 and my daughter was taller than me when she was a teenager. She always made fun of it lol
Finally something going for him. Regardless if he did, or didn’t do it, that judge not recusing herself has already opened this fiasco up to appeal after appeal. They might as well skip the trial and go straight to appeals. So unfair to Abby and Libby and their families. This has been a cluster f*ck from the get go. At this point, listening to the prosecution and that ridiculous judge Gull, absolutely settled me on the side of the defence. What an utter farce! Those girls basically provided the best evidence ever and the police f*cked it up. Big time. And that Gull woman - holding on for dear life to get her 5 mins of fame on the backs of two murdered girls - is disgusting.
I think you're right except for the evidence being strong. The original PD dropped the ball too. They didn't even take the branches that covered the girls to check for DNA. They didn't take the tree that had markings drawn. They didn't find the bullet initially. They didn't keep notes or recordings from the original interviews. They messed this up from Day 1. Whoever did this will likely never truly pay.
I couldn’t have said it any better!! Thank you.
The judge, Honorable Judge Gull, respectively, is doing a good job. She is a professional and rules her court as such. She truly is watching out for RA’s well-being. If it were up to me I’d release him into general population in the county jail. I’d make him eat in the lunch area, shower, share a cell, work duties, and be in the rec yard with the other prisoners. Since the same mental health services aren’t available as in prison, he would not receive any. I would treat him as any other prisoner awaiting trial. IMO he should not be receiving any special circumstances and he for sure would not be in solitary confinement. He was investigated, arrested, and is awaiting trial for the murder and kidnapping of two innocent young girls. He has no alibi nor proclaimed innocence. In the eyes of the law, yes, he is considered innocent until proven guilty. That’s why I’d treat him like all the other prisoners. I would not protect him. I’d let him figure out life on the inside on his own. The focus of this case is so off track. It’s not about RA and I wish people would stop making it about him. It’s about justice for Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The outcome is near.
Why would she recuse herself if the Indiana Supreme Court unanimously decided that she's fit for the job?
@@rowingnow_RA_confessed_Oct2022 Integrity. Apparently she has none.
Watching from Australia. I even got the missing news update over here and since then have been heartbroken and following this. My prayers and love to the families❤
Me to 😢
Me from France , love to the families...
He is WAY too short for it NOT to be mentioned!
It actually was mentioned. If you take a defense attorneys word for it there would never be a conviction ever.
@@bradsanders407 Ok here is your chance to prove that you know it all like you think you do. Show the document that states what you claim. Prove what you say blabbermouth.
@@dennismckean8773 first there will be no document saying anything like that second how are they supposed to show you a document?🤷
@@Creamy-1988 In fact, the only mention of height is Bre Wilbur, who was 5’7 in 2017. She said she came up to the man’s shoulders. Meaning, the man she saw was considerably taller than her.
I've been following this case since the day they released the photo of Bridge Guy. I really hope they have the right suspect.. I, like many others, have my doubts.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
One of the most fascinating crime cases ever. That bridge gives me the absolute creeps - really the eeriest feeling. If ever there was a setting for a murder, it is that bridge, the forest and the river. Watching from South Africa.
Completely agreed
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
No it's not. Nothing fascinating about it.
Someone from South Africa, who's into this case, with the same name as my daughter. Hi Amanda. I call my angel Mandy.
@@nemonucliosisthen why was this video made genius?
Excellent documentary and balanced reporting. I felt the sadness with the testimony of the best friend.
I love that they featured the bestfriend now as well🦋🦋🦋
What a great friend to have. Keeping their memories alive, saying wonderful things about them. Be blessed.
I lost my best friend when we were 15 years old. A drunk driver ran her over and murdered her. Very few days go by when I don’t think of her. I’m 50 years old at the end of this month. Sonia West. She was funny, and shy, and she was kind. 🙏🏽🌹
@@pommiebears I’m sorry to hear that. Hugs
Thank you so so much ❤️ people like you make this possible for me to process
So much reasonable doubt with Richard Allen and so much evidence on a cover-up.
Yep and they conveniently lost all evidence that would help them show reasonable doubt of all other suspects. Crooked cops
@@IHeArTrOcK20 I SO AGREE!! Poor Karen. Idk how they came up with enough evidence to get a grand jury indictment. If she is found guilty, this will be the biggest miscarriage of justice next to the OJ Simpson case. Can she sue when she is found innocent? Do you know? Just curious
He admitted to the murders in a recorded phone call to his wife and mother. Not everything is a conspiracy.
@@fancykarlmarx and not all confessions are real either.
I feel the police, the prosecutor and Judge Gull mishandled this. These two children deserve better. This trial should be televised for the sake of transparency.
At this stage, this is a highly questionable case. The Judges, Attorneys and Police have done an injustice. There are too many very normal questionable actions by all involved.
LETS LET THE JURY DECIDE!
@@user-fi5zl1vc1c You are right but only when ALL THE INFORMATION is allowed at trial, otherwise the trial is unfair.
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
The injustice is the daily lies the defense has put out, circumventing the gag order, in an attempt to sway public opinion and taint a jury pool..The Prosecution has been completely silent on the evidence details, abiding with the Gag Order..They've added two separate murder charges so they are extremely confident.
When the trial starts, then I believe you'll understand.
@ccccarriemchardy9216 information deemed previously irrelevant is non admissible by Indiana Law..The Judge said that yesterday in her response. The information you speak of was deemed irrelevant years ago.
This man needs to have his day in court, I am very concerned that he is a scape goat.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
That’s why it’s always important for someone to have a defense attorney, this is a great example of it. This case is crazy
Yes
For who??
But why would he confess to his wife over the phone? Confessing to police out of coercion maybe but to his own wife? Are we buying that the prison guards also happen to be in this cult and threatened him into confessing to his wife?
I remember thinking how weird it was that Eric Williams seemed to almost call them victims at 6:30.
Weird, good catch!
Yes! That was my comment on the advertisement of this special. I watched it live and was not able to rewind it.
Now that I can watch it again, he was starting to say VICTIMS!
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
No doubt! 😬
The injustice by the cops, judge and prosecutors is horrendous. The fact that all of these people have lied, hid evidence or for the judge who refused to step away after unjustly taking his attorneys away to me proves they don’t have the right person and something nefarious is happening.
Imagine if RA was your dad, grandpa, brother, uncle, spouse, friend……. Also why are the families not outraged on how they have handled this investigation & how they are ensuring RA be exonerated in appeals by the treatment. If I was the family, I would be demanding he has a fair trial so the truth comes out.
I have asked this question to hundreds of people on youtube and noone will answer it. My question is "Who confesses to one or more people but then doesn't change their plea?" -it...makes....no sense. ????????
@@Emeraldcity70 exactly who goes six years without telling anybody and now all of a sudden tells 30 people lol
Didn’t his defence let something terrible happen
@@kazrutch463 no
@@Emeraldcity70 IMO, somebody whose attorneys tell him to wait until there will be a benefit to him to change his plea would not change it. Most defendants that are set to go to trial take a plea deal, but they are offered the deal first. We don't know if the prosecution is offering one here or if they did long ago and that ship has sailed.
MP says police told him phone pinged 5hrs ago now its dead...but now we public know it pinged again at 4:33 am so who turned it back on
I've wondered!!! if they got fingerprints off that phone that did not belong to either girl...!?!
@Mr6wolfdog remember the rumours years ago that LE had a partial finger print. Or touch DNA don't know if true though
We know it did? Also it very well could have been out of service and briefly connected at 430
I read your post but am confused a bit. Can you explain what you meant.
@carter_1 google the update on this case geofence data on cell phone at the crime scene has been released as well as phone ping data about Libby's phone the night girls went missing
I still haven't heard/seen any real evidence to convince me that Richard Allen is guilty of anything. The police investigation and trial are a freakin clown show.
Those two young girls, Abby & Libby, deserve better than this.
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Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
They found a bullet at the crime scene that had been cycled through his gun. Is that not evidence to you? What about the fact that he said he was there at the time it occurred, or that he confessed to the crime multiple times?
@@udhehfhehcuw9169They found the bullet days after the crime scene had been “re-secured”. This isn’t something made up by the defense, it comes from the police’s own discovery that was handed over. There was no chain of custody for that bullet. Law enforcement screwed up this investigation from day one.
@@MKUltra42 so what if they found it days later? They still found it. That's the point. Unless you're suggesting a conspiracy theory that they somehow planted it there.
@@udhehfhehcuw9169 No it's not evidence. There are dozens of expert gunsmiths that will prove it to be junk science, especially since the round was not fired.
Craziest case ive ever followed.
So many twists & turns
I've never been so ready for a trail I have so many questions
This isn't reality tv.
@@nemonucliosisvery unfortunate it's kinda turned into that.
I think people over look to innocent little girls lost their lives & there families are forever affected.
I just hope the get this right. I think the defense has created plenty of reasonable doubt
I haven't heard any evidence that would convince me of his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
He confessed several times
If your husband was arrested for this, and you found out that he told cops he was ON THE BRIDGE the day of the incident (and he never said that to you, never mentioned being there) wouldnt you question it? He put himself there, he told a conservation officer before the girls bodies were even found that he was there. Then he just decides to keep quiet about that for 6 years. Isnt that enough to seriously question things?
@@Pozorrogonope, I'd worry I'd be railroaded just like he was/is being. This man is innocent until proven guilty.
Did you know there's evidence of 3 people being in the area of the bodies? Did you know all the recorded interviews of the original suspects are erased? Did you know slick nick the prosecutor has ties to the initial suspects?
There is too much evidence there were 3 possibly 4 people involved who took the girls out of the area to murder them then brought them back. Libby's cell phone pinged at 1 pm (I think) then went dead until 4 am the next day. Too much evidence pointing to someone else.
@@PJTYLER also suspected he was being threatened and tortured
@@PJTYLERNot only was he being tortured and abused but his family was being threatened. At the end of one of his phone calls with his confession before he hangs up he asks is that ok, is my family ok.
we need some trustworthy journalists and attorneys observing in the courtroom since there wont be any cameras. Judge Gull is afraid of transparency.
I doubt it's up to the judge. Camera policies are usually laid out in the formal rules of each particular jurisdiction.
@@MisterRlGHT it is absolutely up to the judge. In fact she allowed cameras in the hearing where she was ready to publicly embarrass the defense attys last October. Yet she hasn't allowed them since. See the docket. She has denied media requests ever since.
@@MisterRlGHTit’s up to the judge 100%. I worked as an armed guard in a courtroom and the JUDGE has the final decision for anything and everything that happens in that courtroom. Do a little research before doubting someone 🙄 your username says it all though…
They need to show the whole video from the phone. Why has it not been shown?
i theorize that maybe something violent happened in the video, so they are not showing that part. just a theory though, who knows what they really are truly keeping from the public
@@traaaashmouse likely not violent but rather some guilt knowledge of sorts they are keeping up their sleeve
Yes indeed it's weird we only got to see a small part of it
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And give away the biggest piece of evidence they have? Nah they took a huge risk releasing what they did!
Letting this judge go on with this case is going to be a travesty. This man deserves a fair trial, and she already has proven it won't happen in her courtroom. Remove her now!
I doubt that will happen.
The Indiana Supreme Court is on her side!
@@user-fi5zl1vc1cthe Indiana Supreme Court already went against her decision once, maybe is time to go again. The last prosecution motion is all the rights violations possible. The defense basically cannot present their defense and the prosecutor is asking for that motion to be granted without a hearing. They keep violating all his rights.
Agreed ! 100 percent ! Let’s be honest here ! This guy is going down for it cause they have absolutely no clue who the real killer is ! That’s just fact
@@mikehunt3451 They either have no clue or law enforcement is involved.
Is that your paranormal opinion?
What a beautiful place for such a horrific tragedy !! My Opinion Is That RA is guilty and I don’t think that there was anyone else involved. That cult or whatever it is and has been mentioned by the defense I assume. I think the reason why he was able to stay off the radar was because he was the only person who knew the truth. He didn’t tell anyone and he tried to live a somewhat normal lifestyle. The reason why I think he was alone is because when there are more than one involved in the case the better chances are that one of those involved will talk. If there had been some sort of cult involved there would have probably been a lot of people who would have known and then the chances of one of them talking is better even still !! He also admitted to the crime to several different people after he was arrested and the evidence in his home is yet another reason I think he is guilty.
Well this is the reason why in America you're innocent until proven guilty, and we have banned the Lynch mobs. Because of this mob mentality of looking for somebody to crucify
R.I.P. Abby 🩷🙏🏽🩷
This was not meant to be the end of your story. I am so truly sorry.
R.I.P. Libby 💜🙏🏽💜
You also were not meant for this to be the end of your story. Life is so unfair I am so sorry. Rest peacefully in heaven with your best friend. Love and prayers to family and friends. Especially the beautiful best friend left behind!! ❤🙏🏽❤ Stay strong sweetheart you have the world behind you!! 🫶🏽
FBI NEEDS TO INVESTIGATE THIS CASE
Duh they have been.
Where were they whenever Larry Nassar was abusing multiple women on the USA gymnastics team for several years? Oh yeah they love to help traffickers so no they won’t be of any help
They’re corrupt too though
@@marielux7372yea they are
@@jase4270nope they aren't on it, don't spread misinformation. They initially were involved but the FBI is not actively investigating nor have they investigated the people in charge of the case.
Abby🕯 & Libby🕯
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Best Friends Forever...
Until the very end!
Rest in Peace beautiful girls!
Mmbop? 😢
Thank you. They are becoming the world's most loved best friends.
if it was one person who committed this crime, I keep thinking, one of those poor children was the last to die..so did he tie one up, or what? just babies really. Poor little girls. I just think there is more than one person involved. Those poor families..waiting all those years and wondering day and night Heartbreaking..Bless them all!
@@bernimac they are obviously so loved.❤
Here's what I'm having a difficult time with.
Many decades ago when I was a teen girl, my friends and I spent a fair amount of time in the drugstore - samples, trying on makeup, seeing what's on sale, looking through seasonal, etc.
This is a small town. Even the gal's friend said they knew RA from the CVS. The gal's were alert enough to record the creep that most likely did this (giving presumption of innocence). Yet neither of them said any identifiers regarding RA such as that's the guy from the drugstore, or isn't that RA?
There probably is a lot more on the video than has been released. Hopefully, there is more evidence, if he's the perp.
I personally didn't hang out in drugstores as a teen nor do I now. I'd say these days I go there maybe once every season, if not less than that, and went there much less as a teen. I would have been hard pressed to think of something I'd rather do less than hang out at CVS as a teen. I certainly didn't memorize middle aged men's faces of people who were workers at any store whatsoever when I was 13 or 14 either. Add to that the stress of having a man who's looking like he's following you in a largely wilderness area when no one else seems to be around, and I don't think they'd be in the frame of mind to start recognizing him immediately and also having the presence of mind to refer to him by his full name (if they knew it) while trying to see if they (as middle-schoolers) can talk their way out of a scary perceived threat.
I do agree with you though that with a bit less than 3K people in town and knowing that they should work that town first and then work their way out, because someone in town would be familiar with those trails, I'd be shocked if they didn't know it was RA fairly early on after having the time to scrutinize the men in town. But you can't just arrest someone off of saying we really feel like it's him. The judge would laugh that search warrant request out of their court, and rightfully so. His phone that he said he was using didn't show up in the geofencing *at all,* so there was another strike "not putting him there" until they realized that he said he was glued to his phone that wasn't showing up on the geofencing that happened in 2019 and that was for Feb 13 with a start time of 12:41, when RA in his altered timeline, claimed to have been there at the trails. This defendant's stories are not making sense and I don't stand for that from a double child homicide defendant.
@@rowingnow_RA_confessed_Oct2022 There are so many twists and turns, it will be interesting to see the evidence presented. That there were so many perps and shady guys identified early on in such a small community is disheartening. We truly don't know what goes on in the minds and lives of others.
Well for one he had his mouth covered with a scarf so without his CVS clothes on its not surprising they wouldn't have recognized him. Also knowing of someone isn't the same as knowing their name. Something I've been trying to figure out is how it was announced they wouldn't have school that day. Was it public knowledge or would you have had to had a kid in school to know or have told you? And where was his daughter at the time?
Never heard of odomism.... until this case
Just because you haven’t heard of it doesn’t mean it isn’t real. I first heard of Odinism/Asatru/Norse paganism in the early 90’s. It’s very popular in mostly white, rural, midwestern communities. It started as a way for people to connect with their Nordic heritage but it’s been taken over by white supremacists and prison gangs.
That might be because "odomism" does not exist. Do you mean Odinism? Odin is the norse father/warrior god.
The defense fairy-tale about what happened? I'd fire those two imbicles if they came to me with that crap. The abduction was recorded. There was one person. Not a group. Furthermore you have 2 pristine tailor-made alternative suspects with statuses that are stuff of which defense attorneys dream of dead and the other in prison for child porn of all things in a child killing case in which one was found naked. Two separate suspect who law enforcement is on record as saying they believe they committed the crime. One caught trying to lie about an alibi another one who is a pedophile and actually contacted the girls right before the murders. All that and they are going with ghost and goblins. F. Lee Bailey would vomit in his crown and coke if he heard them come up with such nonsense.
@@bradsanders407 Yet, F. Lee. Bailey, asked the FBI shoe print expert, at the OJ trial “couldn’t two killers wear the same shoes?” Knowing these were size 12, Bruno Magli, designer shoes, only a few sold in America in size 12, of which only 5% of the population wear? He even tried suggesting one murderer could have carried the other murderer out of the crime scene. I mean…..really?
Yea, the worship of Lamar Odom. You never heard of that?! Where have you been...
I'm glad to see all skepticism in these comments. I live in Indiana and what they're doing in this case is scary. The fact they'll seemingly railroad this man just because they don't have anyone else is terrifying. How someone can be charged and kept in a *prison* on "evidence" this flimsy is beyond me.
I think they have the wrong guy. That judge needs to recuse herself. She's very obviously biased.
Why do you think she is biased?
@@Salix_nigra Omg. Have you not been paying attention?
She's not just biased, she's lazy. She hasn't even read any of the filings by the defense. She just denies them. When they request a Franks hearing she denies. She's too lazy to do her job. She doesn't even give reasons for her denial just deny.
This is exactly why Baldwin and Rozzi were reinstated. The Supremes knew she hadn't done her job. They also know this whole case is headed for appeal.
Your wrong
If hes the wrong guy, why didnt he see "Bridge guy"?
Justice for Abby and Libby!
I hope the trial reveals the truth. I think the case as it is now (in view of the public) raises a lot of reasonable doubt- especially with the Delphi authorities incompetence of handling evidence.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
The last motion from the prosecutor wants to basically limit any defense they can present. And the prosecution is asking the judge to grant it without a hearing. If she approves that, very possible, they will railroad him.
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This case will definitely be appealed. Gull has all but guaranteed RA will be found guilty, railroaded. They never thought he'd make it this far.
@@TxfreeandlovenitWill he be alive for that? Because he is deteriorating quickly, physically and mentally. Without taking in consideration that prison will be even worst than the conditions he has now, after the conviction. I he is not guilty, they already ruined this man’s life.
There needs to be an independent inquiry into the handling of this case. Ive never seen work this sloppy on all sides, including Judicial.
No one knows if he’s truly guilty until the trial. But IF he turns out to be innocent, I hope he sues up the wazoo.
Even if he’s found guilty. He will win a right to appeal it and possibly overturn it. They are holding him in prison not a jail. Like he’s already guilty. Sorry but you have to follow all the rules state of Indiana. Tsk tsk.
What’s going to happen is the online Injustice Community is going to say he’s NG no matter what evidence comes out, just like with Karen Read, Zach Anderson, and many others. Because for some people this is all a game
@Lori-54 The defense isn't even saying where the phone that he was glued to was from noon til 4 that day. He didn't show up in the geofencing that started at 12:41 pm and that makes no sense. This man is guilty of making himself look guilty. There's no money to be made in that.
you make it sound like you belief that a trial or court or jury actually figures out who is guilty with perfect accuracy
Something about him - his eyes. His face. He looks fearful. Not guilty.
I think they have the wrong guy.
I’ve felt uneasy about who they arrested for this crime since they announced it. I’ve been following this case for many years now.
Didn't he admit guilt to his wife? Oooor are we just going to skip over that part.
@@X56th_SFSwe have no idea what was said. Was the confession accurate w details, or did he claim to shoot them (incorrectly) - we need to wait to see...
@marygoff3332 innocent people don't admit guilt to their wives while in jail.......
I walk my dogs down that trail occasionally. They have crosses and some things like that for those girls at the bridge. It’s an incredibly beautiful area, but you get an eerie feeling knowing what happened there.
Regardless if he’s innocent or guilty, this is not how we should be treating detainees.
It’s heartbreaking that almost nobody agrees with this. Our society deems we are innocent until proven guilty. Should innocent people be treated this way?
@ChristinaTodd1970 no what's heartbreaking is what he did to those poor kids you loon
Horrible crime. But there is something creepy and loathsome about someone who goes and hangs out in front of a courthouse with a loudspeaker just to scream at the accused before the trial has even started.
I agree.
Agreed. Many people have that ‘guilty until proven innocent’ mindset in this country. Almost want those who do it to experience a false arrest and be treated the same. Very un-American attitude
@@ditttch Most likely because RA has confessed to killing Abby and Libby.
Yeah ....
He's innocent until proven guilty...
They always forget that
Especially in a case like this where there is serious doubt as to whether the accused is actually guilty or not. Im not opposed to heckling killers before their trial when what the public knows shows clear proof of guilt. I think this guy IS guilty but there is a more nuanced and intricate story than "guy takes opportunity to kill girls" and the prosecution has stronger evidence that hasnt been publicly released
Call it fear of heights I'd be crawling across that decaying old bridge on my hands and knees if I'd had to!
Those poor girls😢 💔
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@@Emeraldcity70 uh if you fear heights, like I do, you know that the first instinct is to get down on the ground.
I can't imagine why they let that relic stand where it seemed like someone could fall through at any second and was steps outside of a well known local trail.
Is that really a place where young girls would visit ? Did they go there regularly...?
If Richard Allen turns out to be guilty someone needs to be held accountable for his statement going unnoticed for 5 years.
Again, IF Richard is guilty that mistake allowed a child murderer to walk among us unchecked for years. Not to mention the millions of our tax dollars wasted on dead ends.
For justice it has to be the right person. I pray for true justice in this case. For Libby and Abby who are at peace and for all those who love them who are still desperately trying to find it.
Gull just proved herself wrong in booting defense off. She didnt have the authority.
I am from indiana. John Razumich is a criminal defense lawyer who is following this case. His youtube channel is John Razumich. A lot of information is repetitive but he has a few details that no one else has covered. I don't think Richard Allen did it.
Look at all the facts again. I think you will change your mind.
@@user-fi5zl1vc1c The fact that he was in the vincinity. The fact that he confessed in jail to his wife and mother while jailers who wore Odism patches on their uniforms listened to his jail phone calls.The fact they found 1 bullet buried between the girls that could have come from a gun he owns? They can't say for certain but a possibility.
Now from the defense. Pagan rituals happen by water sources. The creek/river was nearby. Pagan rituals primarily use knives to kill. Both were killed by a knife. NO DNA FROM RICHARD ALLEN was found on or near these girls. . According to the FBI, it would take 92-96 individual actions in a 2 hour window to kill and lay these girls' bodies in the way they were found. Their conclusion was it had to be more than 1 person. NO.DNA FROM RICHARD ALLEN WAS FOUND ON OR NEAR THESE GIRLS. One of these girls was dating a son who's father was an Odonist. Another group in a different county wanted to join this group. When the police contacted this group, they found on a Facebook page from one of these individuals the exact formation of how these girls was found. This knowledge was only known to the police. This individual who's Facebook page they found this info on confessed to his sister and someone else he was there when the girls were killed. He asked the police when interrogated would they find his DNA if he spat on one of them. The picture of the younger suspect was the first one the police had and they tried to persuade the lady who gave it to them to change her mind to fit more of the 2nd picture. She didn't change her vision of the suspect. Finally, there were 2 investigations, one from the 1 individual who the state charged was Richard Allen and the 2nd was from pagan rituals which turned out to be Odinism. During the early investigation of this case on the paganism side the investigators supposedly set up DVR'S to record the conversation of individuals to keep as evidence for the case. Every one of these conversations were recorded over multiple times. The police didn't even keep a log of who they talked to and never told the defense. They found out accidentally.
Just as FYI....Everytime the defense has requested money for Richard Allen, they have been denied yet the lead prosecutor, lead investigator and someone else are giving themselves raises because they are working on this case. Now tell me why the state says it was him? I want Justice for these girls. I want the man/men who did these evil acts to meet their makers in jail but I want it to be the right ones and I can't say Richard Allen is the one.
@@deannadempsey9269What modern pagan rituals use killing?
I totally and completely agree!
@ivyrose779 I honestly don't know. I don't belong to any of them. The FBI, in their conclusion, stated this was a pagan sacrifice killing with another death. They said from experts in the field and knowledge base that pagan killings happen near water. Their bodies were found near the creek. They use knives instead of guns to kill. The weapon was a knife to their carotid artery. Their investigation stated that 92-96 individual steps were needed from the moment they saw the video to the time of their approximate death. That is a 2 hr time frame. You would think someone had to touch the bodies to place them in that position with the wood framing them. THEY DID NOT FIND RA DNA NOR FOOTPRINTS THAT MATCHED RA. However, in their investigation, his DA talked to the lead investigator and how they found the exact depiction on a guy's Facebook page of how the girls were depicted shortly after. No one except the police had that info. They talked to this individual, and he asked them if they would find his DNA after spitting on one of them. Finally, this guy confessed to his sister and someone else he and others were the ones who killed these 2 girls, but RA was not one of them. One of the girls was dating the son of an Odonist, and this guy and his friends wanted to join his sect of the organization. When these murders first occurred, the first eye witnessed saw a man on the bridge who was young and described him to the police. Both of them were on the bridge before she turned away to go back to her car. According to her, the police wanted her to change the description of who she saw, but she refused to change it. The DA did not find out about this until late last year that the police set up multiple dvr's to record interviews with those in the pagan side of the investigation, but these interviews were recorded over multiple times with no log of knowing who was interviewed and by whom.
Lastly, the only time this judge has and is going to allow cameras in the courtroom was when she got the DA's removed from this case. Every motion from the DA has been denied. They requested money for experts to go against the PA exports. She denied it. It is why they were able to raise at least $25000 in a GoFundMe type campaign, but the lead PA, the lead investigator, and someone else are getting raises for their work on this case. One final note, the composite sketch of the older gentleman was everywhere in Delphi. It was in every business window, including the CVS that RA worked at, and no one made the
conection?
Now, onto the States case. Of course, we don't know everything they have, but what they have said was he admitted he was on the bridge during the time of their disappearance and deaths. "He" confessed to killing them during phone conversations to his wife and mother after being locked up in prison after being abused by guards who wear Odinism patches on their uniforms. Finally, the bullet that was found 2 inches into the ground between the girls could have come from a gun he owned. They can not confirm that it came from that gun, but there weren't enough etchings on the bullet to confirm it came from his gun, but it could have. If that is the strongest evidence the state has, these 2 experienced DA are going to rip the States case apart. I'm going to ask John if he is going to the trial and if so, what day. I want to be there also.
God, i can't stand that hecklers voice. Almost made me not watch the video, but i forward it.
This is a horrible case. I'd live to see justice for Abby and Libby and that means a fair trial for the suspects. Right now it doesn't seem to be Richard Allen...
It appears to be more vengeance that this county is after, not justice.
I want to see some hard evidence on this guy. Current resident of Indiana, born and raised, I want to make sure this is the right suspect and that Abby,Libby, and all their loved ones deserve closure and justice. Tbh I am not seeing enough evidence against him.
A new judge from today‼️
The judge who resigned this week was not the judge on this case anymore, he had recused himself in 11/22. Judge Gull, who was then appointed Special Judge, remains on the case today.
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@@barbaramacdonald7753thank you for the correct information.
I had, also, been misinformed about the matter of-the judge.
Abby and Libby's friend said something odd. She saw the SnapChat photo of Abby and immediately knew something was wrong. What? Why?
I wondered that as well.
Same. Almost like she was wondering if the pic was missing something or possibly staged?
It is a creepy ass looking bridge in the middle of no where that's why
Whoa, you may have revealed the true murderer!
Probably because they’re friends and know what sort of snaps each other Normally share
Gull must go!
This quickly developed into a clusterf*ck , Richard Allen is being railroaded.
lets wait for evidence to be presented before making that determination.
Incredibly creepy that the prison guards had Odin parches and tattoos.
This case really concerns me!!! First, I'm very much pro-police. I have law enforcement family and love/believe in our justice system. However, I'm just not sure they have the right guy. My greatest desire for this case is justice for these 2 beautiful girls and their families!!! RIP Libby and Abbey!!!! ❤️❤️
Usually I am too in a case such as this. As your fam knows all LE are not good ppl. Incompetence for sure & perhaps corruption as well.
I just want the correct person caught and prosecuted, whoever that may be!!!! Justice for these girls and family!!!
They do have the right guy. The problem is there are many of you out there that don't think they do cause of their gross incompetence. Idk about you but when I heard them say the round was inspected by someone with experience in extraction marks, that threw up a huge red flag. Who the hell has experience in that? ISP said the exact same thing about someone with blood pattern recognition experience who got David Camm sent to prison for 13 years for killing his family a crime he didn't commit.
@@bradsanders407 Let’s pray they do. Idw an innocent man in prison or a guilty man walking free.
Both sides have been telling lies. I don’t have confidence in either & I seriously think this judge is making major mistakes.
As a defense attorney, I'm very anti-police. But I can always appreciate an individual who can look at something from multiple angles
This trial so far is a sh*tshow, the two girls deserve so much better 💔💔
The State of Indiana and the defense need to clean up their acts.
how do we know girls even died? what if this was all an act? how would you know? how? media owns nothing to the truth or fact checks, and countless people can easily lie and cover up as they own the sector of truth or lies. psyop or not, we dont know, but i do know this whole case makes 0 sense
I’d like to hear Doug Carter say “down the hill”
That’s a name I haven’t heard before? And I’ve been following this case since it started.
@@Kali-Moe he's the Indiana state police superintendent who does all the press calls on the Delphi case👍
or lezenby
Eh?
OH WOW! Right as I read this he started talking and said, “he is hiding in plain sight”. He was looking down and looks just like the “bridge guy”
Can the forensic experts not calculate the height of the guy in the video and determine whether he is 5'4" or not?
Depends on I they are paid by the state or defense
He's 5'7 on his booking photo.
Am I the only one that wants to hear Richard Allen talk? They should be able tell if that’s his voice or not on the phone video the girl took? Am I the only one lol
I don’t know if Richard Allen is guilty. I don’t believe he will get a fair trial and sometimes innocent people are put in prison. This is all messed up. Rest in peace Libby and Abbey.
This. No one knows enough yet to definitively say guilty or not. What we can say is there is a lot of suspicious behavior by the lawyers and judge and RA deserves a fair trial which he is not getting.
I think they have the wrong guy. There is something off about this whole case.
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Very off. Not to mention the actions from the judge & prosecutor.
Oh, they have the right guy. You've only heard defense motions and defense claims so far.. The prosecution has not said a word about their evidence except for the PCA. I know for a fact that they have at least two other pieces of evidence that nail Richard Allen as being BG. And neither of them are the unspent bullet mentioned in the PCA..If Allen is Bridge Guy, it means he kidnapped the girls. Under Indiana Law and his specific charges, if Allen is proven to be BG , he automatically gets two counts of murder since he kidnapped the girls, and they were found deceased. But Mcleland recently added two additional murder charges.. This means he is confident he now has the evidence he needs to also prove that Allen murdered them also.
@islandthrifts809 They've got the right guy..Nothing off about the judge and prosecutor. They've played it straight, unlike the defense.
They've also adhered to the Gag Order, unlike the defense..
@@richarddobson3138how do you know what evidence they have?
The fact that he is sitting in prison before trial is a miscarriage of justice! Looks like they already found him guilty with no trial. I think they interrogated him for hours and hours with no sleep, and threatening his family is why he confessed. That's how false confessions are made. They didn't have clear evidence of his guilt and they were probably under pressure to solve the case. How sad for Libby and Abby's family and friends! I was really hoping they found the killer, but now I have doubts.
I believe they withheld his medication to make him crack. It all stinks to high heaven!
He confessed he shot them in the back… not really what happened, eh…
Prison guard with a Odin face tattoo, after he’s instructed to not wear a patch on his uniform??? Sounds like a devout Odinist to me.
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and hello from Florida.
Why did Abby's friend "immediately know something was wrong" when she saw the 2:09 Snapchat pic? I don't understand why that pic would make her suspect anything. Odd comment to make without explanation.
The State of Indiana vs Richard Allen
Let's get this in front of a jury.
Because Abby never crossed the bridge before. The Snapchat photo of Abby is believed to be photoshopped to establish a false timeline of the murders. That’s just a small nugget of information out there.
Yeah I felt the same. The picture doesn't give a weird vibe at all, she could have elaborated on why she felt like that (as a best friend she might see more than is on that pic)
Later in video she says she knew A&L had been on some social media sites and met people online. So when she saw Snapchat (as the 13yr old she was) she may have thought they were likely meeting someone. That may have been the lead that landed LE on the other child sexual predator who the girls communicated with but is not the killer. Also don’t forget these news interviews are edited and often leave out context clues.
I’ve always guessed she was going to meet some boy and started filming when she realized she had been catfished. It was the day before Valentine’s Day and she even brought a friend to be safe.
I’m not dropping my kids off at no bridge nope
Neither did Kelsy German, going by the evidence?
Again, This was a public trail where crazy sh** like this never happened. It's common for kids growing up in rural areas to go outside in areas like these.
My mom said the same stuff I'm not dropping you off at no wooded area.If you want to wonder off and go on your own then your not obeying me and doing things that I told you not to.These days you can't take a nice walk and explore cuz there's a creep or creeps lurking
@@JoeyH-sb3fq One accidental fall from that bridge would've been deadly. Just because trails are public does not mean they are safe. Some parents are way too nonchalant.
Yeah. I’m in my 30s, and my parents still don’t want me walking alone in my town’s local trails. It’s a risk.
I would just like to say that it is really difficult to judge someone's height from a distance, even if you are just driving by them. You could easily describe someone that is 5 ft 4 in as a little bit taller. You don't really know until you're standing next to someone what their height is.
“An arrest was made (approx) 24 days before a sheriff’s election.”
And the Failed sheriff Mike Thomas is exactly why this case is getting derailed. He needs to get over losing. Hope he gets charged with witness tampering.
Yeah . . . That’s concerning.
And???
That's a NON SEQUITUR unless you can tie some other additional nefarious evidence to it. You might as well say: "the arrest came on a sunny day, does that have some additional significance?"... Face palm.
Bingo!
That's at the lower end of the mountain of concerning things.
Not sure they got the right guy.
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
The way Tobe turns red when Doug Carter says “the killer might be in this room “ and another day literally laughs and brags that he was a suspect really makes me question his innocence. Supposedly there’s an enhanced version of Libby’s recording and supposedly you can hear what sounds like a police radio in the background. Libby’s dad had run ins with police…..🤷🏼♀️
Per reports from two independent "secret confidential informants" within law enforcement circles stated: The Vinlanders Social Club that identified as WHITE SUPREMACISTS Odinists formed in and about the Delphi area well over 25 years ago. Law enforcement, including, local police, State police,and Sherrifs Department have "SEVERAL" employees, some who are high ranking, and fervent practitioners of this ominous religion and they are protecting THIN BLUE LINE GANG & ODINIST acts of strange and bizarre paganism rituals including unforgivable ¥iolent s€xua¡ abu€e from being brought to light. Recently another bombshell dropped when a CO in training who had served 120+ days in the county jail, abruptly left for another job offer out of state, confided to one of the CIs they left out of fear after witnessing the sitting judge and several Odinist COs engaging in wine enema induced drunkeness and s€Xu♤¡ p€RvEr$●N. More frightening, the COs cursed and groveled when the judge took on a shedevil persona and beat them into submission. According to reliable sources, so friends say.
I find it odd that I’ve never heard Libby’s father speak publicly. He was supposed to pick them up at 3:30, so why do we only see the grandparents? 🤔
The grandfather is her father legally. Her grandparents had custody of her. @@elizabethsydney976
@@elizabethsydney976 There is no law that requires families of murder victims to go public. Many have a spokesperson or two.
I find it beyond disrespectful from people like you to bash them if they don't address demanding strangers online.
They have enough to deal with.
I don't know if he's guilty or not but I've never seen a guilty man lose weight like he has. I've seen innocent men do that tho. I hope there is proper justice for these girls.
Rest in peace little angels 💝💝
Justice for Libby and Abby is not served if the wrong person is in prison. The prosecutor is playing silly buggers and the judge is not being neutral.
I agree that the fact that no witness talks about the height of the guy they saw is a problem, Allen is super short, I am beginning to think it’s not him
I believe the girl witnesses said he was a little above their shoulder...or something like that...
@@sugarplumfairydanielle really? I never heard that. This case is very mysterious dont you think ?
Eyewitnesses are famously poor evidentially. I'd imagine with computer science where it is today, they can easily use the video to determine the suspects height. There are the planks of the bridge itself, the rim at the edge, and the tree behind him. All of these can be measured, and with stand ins, or even mannequins of varying sizes, they could reconstruct the angle and positioning to get a pretty accurate approximation. ✌
EXCELLENT point that no said the guy they saw was SHORT!
RA was there anyway so I don't know why that point matters
@wilsal2485 what! That's an extremely important point.
I think I recall from the PC affidavit that one of the juvenile witnesses who saw him said he wasn’t tall.
@slaws2279
You are right, she said “not very tall”
Demonstrably false. Bridge guy was described as short around 5'6, not taller than 5'10. Children aren't great at estimating height in general.
Didn't realise he was that short. Definitely noteworthy.
Wait for ALL the evidence. Let the jury decide.
That's are Justice System 👍
@@user-fi5zl1vc1c yeah, the jury is party of that system.
THANK YOU
Nowadays juries are the LEAST
important part of the Justice System .?? The case is decided
by armchair detectives and self
appointed lawyers. Like the Idaho 4 case...
@user-fi5zl1vc1c our not are
This was an amazing break down of the documents. Thank you so much for taking the time and being so passionate about Madeline. I am hoping the Highest punishment is given (DP). I haven’t voiced my opinion about Jen Soto I was really hoping She was not aware. After watching this video I have no doubt. No way She was this oblivious.😢
Surely this entire case has been screwed up from the very beginning! Everyone involved within the justice system seems to have dropped the ball in some way or other. My heart breaks for the families involved I cannot imagine going through this horror for as long as they have. But I also feel for Richard Allen and his family if he is innocent. His physical appearance has declined drastically since the arrest, as has his mental state of mind, apparently.
The family has been through hell and back again. I also feel like this trial will not begin in May and will be delayed even longer!
His physical appearance looks the same as those people who used to get electric shock treatments.
They must be using Taser's to make him look like that while in prison.
😢, This is soooo Wrong. 😠 Just want Justice for Abby and Libby. In the Judge's eyes, It's a Done Case....and RA is already guilty...
Didn't this guy confess on a jail call to his wife? What happened with that?
Nope
25:35 oh please,please tell me, how deep was the bullet burried???
The judge needs to recuse herself.
And even if she did, you'd find something else to latch on to as to why RA isn't being "treated" right.
@@nemonucliosis Multiple people who are actually involved in the case have said he has been mistreated. Judge Gull has proved herself to be biased. It's about persevering our rights which she has tried to take away multiple times. The Supreme Court ruled against her and that's telling us everything we need to know. So bye bye!
She just proved herself wrong. She had NO authority to boot them.
I agree with all the other commenters that there is something off about this whole case.
I am constantly amazed by people. They somehow make up their minds about someone's guilt based on a few video blurbs and other news snippets. They weren't there. They've never been to the town or the crime scene. They didn't know the victims and they don't know the accused. Yet somehow they "know" he did it. It's exactly because of people like this, who don't know sh!t, that we have trials.
Shout out to whoever it was that said the cops have no idea who did it but have found someone they can take down for it. This is a little rinky-dink town, not Chicago or Memphis. I'm willing to bet that none of them have ever investigated a weird murder like this. What experience they do have investigating murder is probably confined to drug murders, domestic murders, murders committed in the course of robberies, and murders stemming from bar brawls. In other words, the easy kind.
Also we have precious little information. We still don't know how the victims were killed, whether they were sexually assaulted, what the motive was. Maybe more importantly we don't know why they are keeping all this secret.
Did Allen do it? LOL! I don't know. AND NIETHER DO YOU. Duh. Duh duh duh.
There is too many issues with this case. Justice for Abby and Libby includes a fair trial and RA isn’t getting that.
Watching from London, England.
This case is such a mess but I have faith that the truth and justice will be done. RIP Libby and Abby.
Unfortunately you should not have faith in our legal system as there is little to no justice in our legal system. My niece was held at gun point for 3 days and raped….he got 3 years probation and is currently in jail for doing the same thing to the next girl less than a year later. Except he used a hammer since he can’t have a gun anymore. But sell marijuana or lie about your address to get your kid in school (unless famous) 5 years in jail.
Imagine witness not noticing he has no eyebrows, or that he is 5' 4".
I find it odd that Libby's cell phone was found in a shoe under Abby's body. It is as if the murderer/s deliberately wanted her cell phone to be found, which makes me question the validity of the Bridge Guy video. Something is off here. At this point, I do not think Richard Allen is guilty. These girls were so special. They and their families deserve justice. Get the right person/s so justice can be done. Shame on the judge, the prosecutor, and the investigation.
Definitely not beyond a reasonable doubt...
They are having some of these hearings held where I work in Fort Wayne IN at the courthouse. I didn’t understand why this was still going on. Now I do! So crazy.
This case bothers me so much and I can't believe it hasn't been solved yet. Since learning of this case it's always stuck with me. Something is off with this case though.
Seeing their childhood friend kinda breaks my heart knowing that's where they would've been in life today and they never got the chance. Very sad.
Is there more to the "bridge guy" video?
At first I thought he was guilty bang to rights but not so sure now.
Justice for Richard Allen
I'm leaning that way too but sir justice for the 2 young girls who were killed. If he's innocent he's innocent but don't forget the Real victims
The more I learn about this case and read all of the documents, the more firmly I believe that RA is a scapegoat and it breaks my heart that Abby and Libby may never receive the justice that they deserve.
Richard Allen, some of us are beginning to have serious doubts about this case... Hang in there bud.
Yeah they got the wrong guy😂😂
He described to an officer on fact that he was there that day at the same time of the incident and also what he was wearing. Which matched the video that one of the girls took as they were approached by this individual.
The “family” knows that the State’s timeline is wrong. Yet they remain silently while an innocent man sits in prison. You heard it here, so don’t act surprised when the truth comes out and the actual murderers are arrested.