I still prefer the M5 F10 looks better in my opinion. Only reason I would take the new one is the all wheel drive option and the better interior. From outside F10 looks much better!
James Ji correct he said it’s a 2016? That’s weird 2014+ comes with the LED headlights which is the only f10 I would buy. The regular headlights look dated compared to the LED
I think the m5 in general is kinda “meh” in terms of styling. Amazing engines and gobs of tech. But aside from the quad pipes. I’d really have to do a double take to see if it’s an m5 or 550i. Oddly enough...when I see an m3 or m4 it’s very distinct to me compared to a non m 3/4 series. Don’t get me wrong....would drive an m5 in a heartbeat....I’m just not sold on the styling
It's too bad BMW didn't do more to make the F90 styling match it's ridiculous performance improvements. The new M5 looks a lot like a Camry now and it's a shame. I actually bought a CPO F10 M5 because I knew for a few hundred bucks I could make it look super mean and clean. Nobody needs 562 HP, let alone 600HP. My F10 M5 is already faster than 95% of the cars I see on the road. I was fine not paying twice the amount for the F90 M5's added performance and underwhelming styling.
bhongtastic 😩 exactly it’s like overkill when am driving on the highway in my f10 , like 9 outta 10 cars driving daily can’t even keep up with me 🤦🏽♂️
@@aamikkalinin6385 if you're purley saving, then you'll need to work for 7 years. but thats if you save every penny lol. meanwhile you can get the same amount in 1 year by being an entrepreneur or something lol
Depends on tire you got and conditions youre in. Also if ur avg idiot who drives an audi youll be searching for grip all day long and you wont find it in f gen of m cars. If however you have a sense of what your car is doing then trust me its no problem these cars hook well.
Thanks for the video and the sight of those quiet 'animals'. 1. Its unacceptable to say, nobody bought the stick f10, i bet you a million bucks, almost nobody knew about an f10M5 stick shift. Even the launch films of the F10M5 were shown on the DCT box, so please, lets not insult purists, BMW should have found other ways of eliminating the stick shift since its understandable that investing in stick is expensive as the world is going automatic. 2. The F90M5 is the most beautiful 5 series ever made. 3. BMW always makes timeless cars that are ahead of their time, it wouldnt be suprising to get views on the F10 being more beautiful. 4. Its a shame that the f90 M550i sounds more V8 than both of these, i'm not sure how the M board signed off both generations with the exhaust note of these cars, very annoying when you hear the AMG (especially) 5. We can hope that one day BMW will defy all the EU emissions laws and build a limited edition M5 with a V10, besides, the 4.4litre has done its time now at 600hp,lets have another round of the V10 before the lithiums take over, should we BMW people send a petition to BMW?
No offence to f10 owner but without the upgraded headlights and ext leather the car is lookin nasty. Needs both those asap. Its an m5 spec it right or get a 528i.
@@bmx687 of course im just saying it looks cheap. Its more of a knock on bmw than the owner. The guy probably didnt even think about the differnece itd make. Imo worth every penny. The car should come with those things stock. There shouldnt be a base m5.
I totally agree. On a 2014 plus get the adaptive LEDs. Looks way more aggressive. I agree on the full leather as well. And drop the lane assist, and what’s up with the blind spot warning lights on the mirror being where you can barely see them? For such a big car the small mirrors and lane changing visibility sucks compared to most modern cars. Massaging seats on the f10 were a joke as well. Where’s the 1/4 mile performance clock at? They got a lot right with the f10, but a lot wrong too. The electronic software is half baked. As far as driving experience and quality of interior and build quality it’s spot on. Never driven the six speed but the turbo charged engine doesn’t seem suitable for a manual. I could be wrong. The DCT is well suited for the car. The front seats feel like recliners, really comfortable recliners with adjustable bolsters in them that hug you tight. Love the seats in the f10. Could sleep in one
Lets face it, ppl didnt buy the ‘manual, because the f10 dct WAS also a manual gearbox... i.e direct connection to the engine which allows transmission engine braking. f90 is a slushbox torque converter auto like a honda accord. pOS
greattttt we get it BMW once made an M5 with a V10, a V10 that sounded great and was massively slow. Never owned a E60, but I owned an F10 and I'm not exaggerating when I say I beat this guy by 3 buses. I now own the f90, which is even faster (off the line anyway) the E60 is old, it looks terrible. Literally terrible. and is outdated. Why people still talk about it is beyond me.
@@Sumptuous There is something called engineering and mods. Upgrade the S85 V10 to 600hp, swap the drivetrain from the F90 so the E60 can have awd capabilities and since it's out of date swap the idrive too. Not saying all that would be possible but that's a theory in making the E60 just as good or better overall than the F90. To begin with the E60 stock has a better top speed than the F90, it's just the F90 is alot faster at accelerating
Name's OMEGA you could also make a Honda Civic into a 6 second car. Who wants to put that kind of money into an old, outdated, ugly car. The e60 is literally hideous. Yes you are correct. You can make the e60 just as fast as the f90 for the same price. But your still going to have an old crap outdated car with a cassette player in it. But hey.. you can go around telling people “I have a v10”
@@Sumptuous I disagree, with a couple of cosmetic touches I think the E60 M5 is one of the most gorgeous sedans in my opinion. Paired with that V10 just beautiful
Interesting to see that as hp/tq increases, manufacturers are switching from DCT to torque converter autos... the low speed smoothness of a TC auto is probably another big selling point
Also because BMW didn’t design the DCT for X-Drive. Obviously there are many companies that make DCT’s for AWD cars so BMW could’ve easily done so, but BMW chose not to.
@@EddieX new gen BMWs are bloated, uninspired and boring. As far as Ms go, only the M2 captures the essence of the analog/digital convergence golden age of the early to late 2000s. The E60s flaws are many but the engine makes up for everything, and design wise it is distinguishable and a little 'out there'.
Sit in both and feel the materials its only in their recent cars that theyve stepped it up. And big whoop they made a small medium large version of each car real creative. As u go on lower end ur greeted with cheap plastic and creeky interior nice. Might aswell buy a subaru. Bmw def has better felling interior imo but theyre also headed down that road of s,m,l. Not likin the way these companies are doin things these days. Its clear these cars are all meant for a 5 year lease and then ready for scrap yard. Back to back with my f10 can def.say its overall more solid than f90.no doubt.
The people who keep saying the f10 looks better gotta have fkng eye problems ong tf you mean if the f90 was in gunpowder black it would be op its the meanest mfr right now
I still prefer the M5 F10 looks better in my opinion. Only reason I would take the new one is the all wheel drive option and the better interior. From outside F10 looks much better!
F10 with LED lights.
James Ji correct he said it’s a 2016? That’s weird 2014+ comes with the LED headlights which is the only f10 I would buy. The regular headlights look dated compared to the LED
@@benzamg336 maybe that was a option. I think that f90 looks great too.
I think the m5 in general is kinda “meh” in terms of styling. Amazing engines and gobs of tech. But aside from the quad pipes. I’d really have to do a double take to see if it’s an m5 or 550i. Oddly enough...when I see an m3 or m4 it’s very distinct to me compared to a non m 3/4 series. Don’t get me wrong....would drive an m5 in a heartbeat....I’m just not sold on the styling
Agreed!!! the f90 looks like a hyundai now,ugly af
I prefer the looks of the F10 and the manual is definitely a plus.
F10 looks way better IMO.
The whole "save the manual" movement is all show and no go.
Megatron yes it is
Trying to do my part buying manual cars lol. But it's futile to try and influence the manufacturers
Both options on the f10 were manual
Honestly most of the people who would buy a new manual car can’t afford one
That color on the F10 is 🔥🔥🔥 especially with the black trim, grill, spoiler, mirror caps and black wheels!!!
F10!just looks better to me. The f90 looks like a normal car. Maybe it’s the rims.
The new M5 doesn’t have a dual clutch transmission, is a 8 speed ZF , the old one is 7 speed dual clutch 😉
It's too bad BMW didn't do more to make the F90 styling match it's ridiculous performance improvements. The new M5 looks a lot like a Camry now and it's a shame. I actually bought a CPO F10 M5 because I knew for a few hundred bucks I could make it look super mean and clean. Nobody needs 562 HP, let alone 600HP. My F10 M5 is already faster than 95% of the cars I see on the road. I was fine not paying twice the amount for the F90 M5's added performance and underwhelming styling.
bhongtastic 😩 exactly it’s like overkill when am driving on the highway in my f10 , like 9 outta 10 cars driving daily can’t even keep up with me 🤦🏽♂️
F10 body style is timeless
The last model year of the F10 2016 does comes with digital cluster if you option it.
not on the M5
You can also turn off AWD on the F90 for it to only be RWD too if you want
Without stability control though
bought a m5 competition yesterday, thats insane fast.
What do u do for a living
@@qmarq working at 💰mcdonalds💰
@@aamikkalinin6385 daaym.. sign me up
@@qmarq ok. You will get paid 8 dollars per hour. Step 1: work 24/7 for 1 or 2 years, after those grindful years you can maybe buy something like that
@@aamikkalinin6385 if you're purley saving, then you'll need to work for 7 years. but thats if you save every penny lol. meanwhile you can get the same amount in 1 year by being an entrepreneur or something lol
F10 is beautiful. Great spec on this one
The f10 just has so much more presence than f90. So much better looking. F90 just seems like a small toyota next to the f10
F10 is a bargain, but a tractionless bargain.
Accurate lol
Depends on tire you got and conditions youre in. Also if ur avg idiot who drives an audi youll be searching for grip all day long and you wont find it in f gen of m cars. If however you have a sense of what your car is doing then trust me its no problem these cars hook well.
Stefan Cupovic I agree ☝️
German muscle :)
Great comparison. The F10 exterior looks nicer imo but the F90 interior and performance is an undeniable improvement.
Looking at the two side by side, the f90 m5 makes the f10 look like something from the Flintstones. Far better looking I.M.H.O.
Any idea on how much a manual f10 m5 is going for? There is 1 on marketplace for 38,995 93k miles
Please help me understand,, is the f10 and f90 same body style?
Is that F10 sakhir orange? Looks a bit more red but could be the lighting
Yep!
@@EddieX nice one keep up the good work buddy
The F10 M5 looks much much better than the newer F90 M5.
disagree heavily
@@ZeekerAdventures same idk how peeps think the f10 looks better. F10 looks more chunky f90 looks sleeker and tougher
Not sure why BMW offered manual in the us. A country that is well known to prefer auto. Now in the UK no such option.
f10 looks better..keep it real...
I never knew the F10 came in manual
I would choose f10 m5 but would take the drive train
f10👍👍
Give me the looks of the F10, but the technology and specs of the F90.
Any number on how many M5 and M6 Manuals for the F1X generation?
So is it that folks who could afford the F10 could not drive manual?
i wouldnt say the most obvious difference is the key
id probably go with the design (;
If only I had the opportunity to drive one of these...
Go to local dealer...
Rent it
Doesn’t the F90 have a digital key option?
YES
So did f10
honestly just get a f10 and mod it, unless u want awd
Someone says 16 has digital display
Could be speced yes
Thanks for the video and the sight
of those quiet 'animals'.
1. Its unacceptable to say, nobody bought the stick f10, i bet you a million bucks, almost nobody knew about an f10M5 stick shift. Even the launch films of the F10M5 were shown on the DCT box, so please, lets not insult purists, BMW should have found other ways of eliminating the stick shift since its understandable that investing in stick is expensive as the world is going automatic.
2. The F90M5 is the most beautiful 5 series ever made.
3. BMW always makes timeless cars that are ahead of their time, it wouldnt be suprising to get views on the F10 being more beautiful.
4. Its a shame that the f90 M550i sounds more V8 than both of these, i'm not sure how the M board signed off both generations with the exhaust note of these cars, very annoying when you hear the AMG (especially)
5. We can hope that one day BMW will defy all the EU emissions laws and build a limited edition M5 with a V10, besides, the 4.4litre has done its time now at 600hp,lets have another round of the V10 before the lithiums take over, should we BMW people send a petition to BMW?
No offence to f10 owner but without the upgraded headlights and ext leather the car is lookin nasty. Needs both those asap. Its an m5 spec it right or get a 528i.
It's ok that you don't like it. It isn't your car so your opinion doesn't matter
@@bmx687 of course im just saying it looks cheap. Its more of a knock on bmw than the owner. The guy probably didnt even think about the differnece itd make. Imo worth every penny. The car should come with those things stock. There shouldnt be a base m5.
I totally agree. On a 2014 plus get the adaptive LEDs. Looks way more aggressive. I agree on the full leather as well. And drop the lane assist, and what’s up with the blind spot warning lights on the mirror being where you can barely see them? For such a big car the small mirrors and lane changing visibility sucks compared to most modern cars. Massaging seats on the f10 were a joke as well. Where’s the 1/4 mile performance clock at? They got a lot right with the f10, but a lot wrong too. The electronic software is half baked. As far as driving experience and quality of interior and build quality it’s spot on. Never driven the six speed but the turbo charged engine doesn’t seem suitable for a manual. I could be wrong. The DCT is well suited for the car. The front seats feel like recliners, really comfortable recliners with adjustable bolsters in them that hug you tight. Love the seats in the f10. Could sleep in one
@@scottkayrouz236 ya that summed it up perfectly
Nice video brother!
Thanks!
I only have one thing to say, Torque converter, lmao we live in sad times.... ill be sticking with my F10 for a while
There's something called snow tires for RWD.
anyone know what and why they have a secondary name ie: f10, f90 etc...
asvp_frostyy it’s just the chassis / generation code name to differentiate models
F10 M5 is wayyyy more aggressive
Great job!!!
New camera??
Nope! I've had this Canon g7x for a long time
Lets face it, ppl didnt buy the ‘manual, because the f10 dct WAS also a manual gearbox... i.e direct connection to the engine which allows transmission engine braking. f90 is a slushbox torque converter auto like a honda accord. pOS
1:21 review the Defender!!
Buying a manual on such a big heavy boat is stupid
They both lack the engine of what the E60 had
greattttt we get it BMW once made an M5 with a V10, a V10 that sounded great and was massively slow. Never owned a E60, but I owned an F10 and I'm not exaggerating when I say I beat this guy by 3 buses. I now own the f90, which is even faster (off the line anyway) the E60 is old, it looks terrible. Literally terrible. and is outdated. Why people still talk about it is beyond me.
@@Sumptuous There is something called engineering and mods. Upgrade the S85 V10 to 600hp, swap the drivetrain from the F90 so the E60 can have awd capabilities and since it's out of date swap the idrive too. Not saying all that would be possible but that's a theory in making the E60 just as good or better overall than the F90. To begin with the E60 stock has a better top speed than the F90, it's just the F90 is alot faster at accelerating
Name's OMEGA you could also make a Honda Civic into a 6 second car. Who wants to put that kind of money into an old, outdated, ugly car. The e60 is literally hideous. Yes you are correct. You can make the e60 just as fast as the f90 for the same price. But your still going to have an old crap outdated car with a cassette player in it. But hey.. you can go around telling people “I have a v10”
@@Sumptuous I disagree, with a couple of cosmetic touches I think the E60 M5 is one of the most gorgeous sedans in my opinion. Paired with that V10 just beautiful
Name's OMEGA everyone’s entitled to an opinion. I’m not a fan at all.
F10 No paddle shift , bos no engine view ke?. Hurmmm
Interesting to see that as hp/tq increases, manufacturers are switching from DCT to torque converter autos... the low speed smoothness of a TC auto is probably another big selling point
Also because BMW didn’t design the DCT for X-Drive. Obviously there are many companies that make DCT’s for AWD cars so BMW could’ve easily done so, but BMW chose not to.
They both nice. F10 looks better but f90 looks bigger and wider and it's faster.
You blind ngga
F90 only has the interior. The F10 comp looks better and can perform better. With a Dinan tune, it's faster than most cars in the world
👀👀👀👀🤦🏽♂️
Never really cared for these. But now I do
same
where's the display keyfob ?
there are 2 versions i reckon .. a full option or half full .. iam not sure so don't take my words for that
F90🖤
These so-called enthusiasts will cry for manuals but still buy automatics *sigh*
f90 girl f10 dude M power
The new steering wheel looks plasticky.
E60 shits on both of them.
Ha. Only in terms of sound.
@@EddieX new gen BMWs are bloated, uninspired and boring. As far as Ms go, only the M2 captures the essence of the analog/digital convergence golden age of the early to late 2000s. The E60s flaws are many but the engine makes up for everything, and design wise it is distinguishable and a little 'out there'.
e60🙂👍🏻
blablabla...
Yeah, talking about hair issues is way more interesting.
I cant tell the difference between these two bmw`s and a dumpster.
BMW interiors suck - Mercedes are leagues ahead in this respect.
Sit in both and feel the materials its only in their recent cars that theyve stepped it up. And big whoop they made a small medium large version of each car real creative. As u go on lower end ur greeted with cheap plastic and creeky interior nice. Might aswell buy a subaru. Bmw def has better felling interior imo but theyre also headed down that road of s,m,l. Not likin the way these companies are doin things these days. Its clear these cars are all meant for a 5 year lease and then ready for scrap yard. Back to back with my f10 can def.say its overall more solid than f90.no doubt.
MERCEDES interior looks nice appearance wise but quality is not good..
The people who keep saying the f10 looks better gotta have fkng eye problems ong tf you mean if the f90 was in gunpowder black it would be op its the meanest mfr right now