Very interesting review . I play with blade pro 18x20 and I'm in situation that when I play matches when I want to attack I often overheat due to the tension of the moment and I m looking for a racket that no matter how strong I head it would stay low and in. May be ultra pro helps in that? Thank you
Thank you. Very surprisingly to me the Ultra Pro is really super low powered. Even Zdenek, my sparing partner who is hitting with his favourite Pro Staff RF97 v11 had problems generating speed with the Ultra Pro. But he didn't overshoot the court and he played very constant, no errors, very precise, with great spin and overall high efficiency over the net. And when he grabbed his Pro Staff back, he was once again shooting into the fences. So yes, it might help you quite a lot with controling your power.
I don't think it's longer, because the head shape is smaller and the head is shorter closer to the throat. The head seems more opened on the sides. The string pattern is different. Ultra Pro is dense. The last cross string near the throat begins far from the frame, making in very tight in the centre. It almost looks like a 18x20 on a 98inch2 head.
I have the V3. The string pattern is too tight. I would have preferred an open pattern like a Pro Staff. Also, they filled the handle with foam, so you have to dig it out if you want to add silicone to the handle. Very annoying for a supposedly customisable pro stock racquet.
The Artengo TR960 CT 16x19 is very, very similar. Now I see why Monfils did make the change. The Artengo is a lot more alive, it has a lot more free power and the overall feel remains almost the same. It's like the Wilson Ultra Pro 16x19, but it's more player friendly.
In this video I'm talking about Ultra Pro, which is not a standard commercially available racket. The Ultra Pro can be bought mostly via Wilson.com website and this is the racket the proffesional tennis players use on the tour. The standard Ultra rackets are completely different and they are the ones you see on TennisWarehouse and other big shops like Tennispoint, Tennispro, Tennis Express etc. Two different rackets, completely. As you said, the Pro version is more like a boxed beamed Head Radical from Andre Agassi times.
Depends on what you're after. The Ultra line is generally the more powerful, forgiving racquets. But the Ultra Pro is a completely different beast. It's a low powered, control racquet which is Wilson's version of Head's PT57A. Personally, I prefer the Pro Staff line for control racquets. I think the Pro Staff 97 has much better feel and control, and more power to boot.
For most amateur players and I think also for most advanced players, there are lot of other rackets that meet the standards for their game. The Ultra Pro is really a level above. Great racket for someone who can hit the ball hard all the time and is very accurate. So yes, it's a true professional racket for tournament players with great ambitions.
Since this is a first impressions video , have you continued to use and analyze the racket ? Have you seen at all a quick drop in tension and therefore performance in the first week of use ? This racquet seems like an all court all surface use racquet , including in doubles . Have you added weight to the head and how has performance been affected by doing so for you ?
I have used the racket only once or twice in my practice sessions lately and it played exactly the same. No added wieght. It's just too unforgiving for me. But I can see other players who use 97in2 rackets that they will probably love this one, although the power is limited to your skill. The better player the more power you get out of it.
@@CzechTennisGuy It is becoming a more neccesary decision to make regarding my choices . There is a memorial week sale going on now , where this racquet and other wilson racquets are 25% off . TW ,tennis express and tennis point are all doing it here . Babalot does not even want to say what string is most recomended for their 16 x20 pure strike 97 . I got 1 recommendation when I asked previously , yet the rep wants to push it on the consumer , like multiple racquets with poor QC specs . Testing and research optimizes the chice of the right gauge for the soacing oerformance , ot is nonsence since wilson does it . From resellers , I asked to check the specs in my grip size . I was shocked how few physical stores are willing to check , if they have the equipment before sale and how many do not have the equipment at all. Apparently they do not care about the quality control of what they bring into the stores , enough to check . They are relying on an ignorent consumer , with money to through away .
@@CzechTennisGuy the ultra pro is now on sale at TW , TE and TP for 25% off during the memorial week . After the discount of 25% , plus the $25.00 u.s discount for the demo testing credit , you have a cost effective option . You would have to add $20.00 additionally for racquet spec matching with a lot of 15 out of 100 current size grips at TW along with $20.00 for strings but get the free stringing .service . Add and minus all the costs and savings , plus taxc and eventually the total is a $219.16 u.s . Doing the same in a lot with a size 2 cx200 tour 16x19 and Babolat pure strike 97 without a 25 % discount would be a total of $233.55 u.s and $330.23 u.s .
@@CzechTennisGuy Terrible for the pure strike 97 . If you add a few sets of grommets that are not even available till August, it gets very expensive . They pushed past the line with their price . Unfortunately snce I live in New York and play only outdoors . The available playing period before the next update is only 8 months out of 24 months . This racquet I just saw was released in Sept of 2022 , at the pro labs and yet recently released to 3rd party retailers and to review unless you purchased it there . QC checks are not done at wilson prior to them having their 30 day play return policy . It creates an unclear mind when using it on top of QC costs on top of other costs . You are paying full price for the racquet while testing it . So while I have heard yet from wilson on if they are liquidating the product or will have a version 5 release. It becomes difficult to determine if I dmshould purchase wright now or wait till the end of cycle after testing any poss new release and decide on either then with a poss 50% off and get 2 properly specified racquets . Until then I can also have the proper amount of time to use it when I need or want it to test and train with . This allows for fresh strings at no additional costs and no stringing costs till I get my own machine . I can also further test the 2 only other options , since prince according to tennis warehouse is not updating in this currently released line up the phantom 97p , which I previously tested . Dunlop SX is updating next as well . Either way the ultra pro releases in Sept which seems that since they are Chinese owned , that the release time is geared towards and eastern and summer hemisphere audience . Lastly people in California can use it year round , without much limitation . We will see but it makes practical sence to wait , hear back and see . The next set of 2 rackets will be my last , so they must play perfect to my needs and to rotate the cx200 tour line as needed . I am not a thick beam , large head sized person and 97's like 95's may go the way of the dodo and be left with a standardized 98 . All courts fees able to play on in singles and doubles and with precision. All court , attacking serve volley is my game , as a current 52 year old . Derek .
I think its more of a feel thing. The Ultra pro is more plush and the pro staff is stiffer. It's just personal preference on which feel someone prefers.
I have both. The Pro Staff is superior in feel, control and has much more power as well. The head size of the Ultra Pro is smaller. I think it's actually 95 sqi. The Ultra Pro is supposedly the Pro Stock H19, which is Wilson's version of the Head PT57A. So if you prefer the feel of Head's control racquets, then maybe the Ultra Pro might be better for you.
I can see the similarities to the Head's rackets. It's more like a Prestige type of a racket. Low powered, with a very specific concentrated feel that allows you to hit super hard and still stay in the lines with the ball. The Ultra Pro feels like a racket that is for someone who can hit every shot like a winner. Casual shots are quite dead with this racket and you have to try super ahrd to get the balls moving.
@@goldencalf5144 which pro staff are we talking about? They have so many versions. The Ultra is 97 not 95. I think the Ultra has way more feel than the Pro Staff unless you are talking about the Pro Labs Pro Staff 95 but even still its firmer than the Ultra but to each their own. The Ultra when customized is one of the premier feel and control rackets; that 18x20 is super tight. The current Pro Staff 97's to me play like boards but I do prefer the softer old school feel; plush, thin beam ultra control. I play with the original Srixon Dunlop CX 2.0 Tour 18x20 but also love the Yonex Vcore pro HD have both in my bag.
@@MMm-kp7lk The Pro Staff 97. The Ultra Pro (at least V3) is definitely smaller than the PS97, similar to my 95sqi Dunlop CX200 Tour. The string pattern on the Ultra 16x19 is much tighter than the PS97 and has a boardy feel, similar to a Prestige. I don't like the feel, but others love it.
Ive got pairs of the prev color paintjob mainly because they were on sale, but this painjob was the must have, gorgeous!!
A good video and I will also be reviewing this racquet alongside other 97s in the future
This or v9 which you prefer and why
Nice, always wanted to hear your comparison with artengo tr960ct
can you review the blade pro?
I would love to but for now I don't have it. I hope in the future I will get hands on one model.
Will you do a video with the reacquet customized to your spec similar to your Artengo TR960CT
No I will not customize the Ultra Pro because I have to return it to Wilson.
Very interesting review . I play with blade pro 18x20 and
I'm in situation that when I play matches when I want to attack I often overheat due to the tension of the moment and I m looking for a racket that no matter how strong I head it would stay low and in.
May be ultra pro helps in that?
Thank you
Thank you. Very surprisingly to me the Ultra Pro is really super low powered. Even Zdenek, my sparing partner who is hitting with his favourite Pro Staff RF97 v11 had problems generating speed with the Ultra Pro. But he didn't overshoot the court and he played very constant, no errors, very precise, with great spin and overall high efficiency over the net. And when he grabbed his Pro Staff back, he was once again shooting into the fences. So yes, it might help you quite a lot with controling your power.
@@CzechTennisGuy will it give heavy ball? My weighted Pure Strike VS seems to give big spin and great penetration even it's deemed as low powered
Try Wilson shift pro with a multifilament like triax or addixion+
Is the mains longer on ultra or artengo? Everyone says ultra needs weight at 12 or 10 and 2 in the hoop
I don't think it's longer, because the head shape is smaller and the head is shorter closer to the throat. The head seems more opened on the sides. The string pattern is different. Ultra Pro is dense. The last cross string near the throat begins far from the frame, making in very tight in the centre. It almost looks like a 18x20 on a 98inch2 head.
It’s a Wilson take of the H22 , a Prestige 100% and probably better than the last iterations made by Head
I have the V3. The string pattern is too tight. I would have preferred an open pattern like a Pro Staff. Also, they filled the handle with foam, so you have to dig it out if you want to add silicone to the handle. Very annoying for a supposedly customisable pro stock racquet.
Yeah, me too. Im thinking of changing to the Artengo TR or the Ultra v4
The Artengo TR960 CT 16x19 is very, very similar. Now I see why Monfils did make the change. The Artengo is a lot more alive, it has a lot more free power and the overall feel remains almost the same. It's like the Wilson Ultra Pro 16x19, but it's more player friendly.
I’m super confused about Wilson’s ultra range. First it’s a super stiff frame, then it’s a thin beamed head replica.
In this video I'm talking about Ultra Pro, which is not a standard commercially available racket. The Ultra Pro can be bought mostly via Wilson.com website and this is the racket the proffesional tennis players use on the tour. The standard Ultra rackets are completely different and they are the ones you see on TennisWarehouse and other big shops like Tennispoint, Tennispro, Tennis Express etc. Two different rackets, completely. As you said, the Pro version is more like a boxed beamed Head Radical from Andre Agassi times.
Wouldn't a normal Ultra 100 V4 be a better choice for a normal player?
Depends on what you're after. The Ultra line is generally the more powerful, forgiving racquets. But the Ultra Pro is a completely different beast. It's a low powered, control racquet which is Wilson's version of Head's PT57A. Personally, I prefer the Pro Staff line for control racquets. I think the Pro Staff 97 has much better feel and control, and more power to boot.
For most amateur players and I think also for most advanced players, there are lot of other rackets that meet the standards for their game. The Ultra Pro is really a level above. Great racket for someone who can hit the ball hard all the time and is very accurate. So yes, it's a true professional racket for tournament players with great ambitions.
Since this is a first impressions video , have you continued to use and analyze the racket ? Have you seen at all a quick drop in tension and therefore performance in the first week of use ?
This racquet seems like an all court all surface use racquet , including in doubles . Have you added weight to the head and how has performance been affected by doing so for you ?
I have used the racket only once or twice in my practice sessions lately and it played exactly the same. No added wieght. It's just too unforgiving for me. But I can see other players who use 97in2 rackets that they will probably love this one, although the power is limited to your skill. The better player the more power you get out of it.
@@CzechTennisGuy It is becoming a more neccesary decision to make regarding my choices . There is a memorial week sale going on now , where this racquet and other wilson racquets are 25% off . TW ,tennis express and tennis point are all doing it here .
Babalot does not even want to say what string is most recomended for their 16 x20 pure strike 97 . I got 1 recommendation when I asked previously , yet the rep wants to push it on the consumer , like multiple racquets with poor QC specs . Testing and research optimizes the chice of the right gauge for the soacing oerformance , ot is nonsence since wilson does it .
From resellers , I asked to check the specs in my grip size . I was shocked how few physical stores are willing to check , if they have the equipment before sale and how many do not have the equipment at all. Apparently they do not care about the quality control of what they bring into the stores , enough to check . They are relying on an ignorent consumer , with money to through away .
@@CzechTennisGuy the ultra pro is now on sale at TW , TE and TP for 25% off during the memorial week .
After the discount of 25% , plus the $25.00 u.s discount for the demo testing credit , you have a cost effective option . You would have to add $20.00 additionally for racquet spec matching with a lot of 15 out of 100 current size grips at TW along with $20.00 for strings but get the free stringing .service . Add and minus all the costs and savings , plus taxc and eventually the total is a $219.16 u.s .
Doing the same in a lot with a size 2 cx200 tour 16x19 and Babolat pure strike 97 without a 25 % discount would be a total of $233.55 u.s and $330.23 u.s .
That's a great price for the Ultra Pro. Not so much for the Pure Strike 97.
@@CzechTennisGuy Terrible for the pure strike 97 . If you add a few sets of grommets that are not even available till August, it gets very expensive . They pushed past the line with their price .
Unfortunately snce I live in New York and play only outdoors . The available playing period before the next update is only 8 months out of 24 months . This racquet I just saw was released in Sept of 2022 , at the pro labs and yet recently released to 3rd party retailers and to review unless you purchased it there . QC checks are not done at wilson prior to them having their 30 day play return policy . It creates an unclear mind when using it on top of QC costs on top of other costs . You are paying full price for the racquet while testing it .
So while I have heard yet from wilson on if they are liquidating the product or will have a version 5 release. It becomes difficult to determine if I dmshould purchase wright now or wait till the end of cycle after testing any poss new release and decide on either then with a poss 50% off and get 2 properly specified racquets .
Until then I can also have the proper amount of time to use it when I need or want it to test and train with . This allows for fresh strings at no additional costs and no stringing costs till I get my own machine . I can also further test the 2 only other options , since prince according to tennis warehouse is not updating in this currently released line up the phantom 97p , which I previously tested . Dunlop SX is updating next as well . Either way the ultra pro releases in Sept which seems that since they are Chinese owned , that the release time is geared towards and eastern and summer hemisphere audience . Lastly people in California can use it year round , without much limitation .
We will see but it makes practical sence to wait , hear back and see .
The next set of 2 rackets will be my last , so they must play perfect to my needs and to rotate the cx200 tour line as needed . I am not a thick beam , large head sized person and 97's like 95's may go the way of the dodo and be left with a standardized 98 . All courts fees able to play on in singles and doubles and with precision. All court , attacking serve volley is my game , as a current 52 year old .
Derek .
Why would people get this over a pro staff? If both are 97 and 16x19
I think its more of a feel thing. The Ultra pro is more plush and the pro staff is stiffer. It's just personal preference on which feel someone prefers.
I have both. The Pro Staff is superior in feel, control and has much more power as well. The head size of the Ultra Pro is smaller. I think it's actually 95 sqi. The Ultra Pro is supposedly the Pro Stock H19, which is Wilson's version of the Head PT57A. So if you prefer the feel of Head's control racquets, then maybe the Ultra Pro might be better for you.
I can see the similarities to the Head's rackets. It's more like a Prestige type of a racket. Low powered, with a very specific concentrated feel that allows you to hit super hard and still stay in the lines with the ball. The Ultra Pro feels like a racket that is for someone who can hit every shot like a winner. Casual shots are quite dead with this racket and you have to try super ahrd to get the balls moving.
@@goldencalf5144 which pro staff are we talking about? They have so many versions. The Ultra is 97 not 95. I think the Ultra has way more feel than the Pro Staff unless you are talking about the Pro Labs Pro Staff 95 but even still its firmer than the Ultra but to each their own. The Ultra when customized is one of the premier feel and control rackets; that 18x20 is super tight. The current Pro Staff 97's to me play like boards but I do prefer the softer old school feel; plush, thin beam ultra control. I play with the original Srixon Dunlop CX 2.0 Tour 18x20 but also love the Yonex Vcore pro HD have both in my bag.
@@MMm-kp7lk The Pro Staff 97. The Ultra Pro (at least V3) is definitely smaller than the PS97, similar to my 95sqi Dunlop CX200 Tour. The string pattern on the Ultra 16x19 is much tighter than the PS97 and has a boardy feel, similar to a Prestige. I don't like the feel, but others love it.