If you already know what tools you need an how to tear the system down, just skip ahead to the removal. This is the second video in a series of five. I highly suggest watching them in order. Timestamps: Tools: 0:29 Teardown: 3:30 HDD Cage Removal: 5:44 Conclusion: 10:35
@@razaaali Yep, the board is a standard micro ATX pattern and can be swapped into another case. The mounting point for the heat sink, unlike an equivalent HP's, is also standard so you can mount any 115x compatible cooler. However, to get the power switch working, you're going to have to figure out the correct pins up top. I don't have a video on that and don't know if I will do one, but thankfully, Greg Salazar has done one that can get you sorted. ruclips.net/video/TYRjgUojBnc/видео.html Also, if you're using a 3020, 7020 or 9020 and you need to swap the PSU, you'll need a converter for the main ATX power, and this is the one that I've used for a few of these. amzn.to/2J5RtJs
@Chabbaquq Yahudah Yahisreal What I said in the video was that the SATA ports as well as the USB3 will interfere with any GPU over about 8.5". Some people have gotten around this by using right angle SATA cables and just leave the front USB3 unplugged. However, this means you cold only use two of the three SATA ports. Also, I've talked to some people that have tried this and it doesn't work. It seems it's dependent on the GPU and it's shroud. However, since making this video I've found some low profile SATA cable that might be able to allow you to use all three SATA ports regardless of the GPU as well as a USB3 cable that will allow you to keep the front USB3 as well.
I've watched a ton of videos on the Optiplex. You are the first one to deal straightforwardly with the Intrusion Switch. You just solved my problem! Thanks!
Great drilling technique sir! When drilling, as opposed to screwing, the drill should only be spinning in the forward drive. Once the hole is bored, the drill bit is designed to be pulled out while being rotated in the same drive in order to burr out stray material. When people reverse the drill bit to pull it out, it also damages the cutting edge of the drill, which heats it up and may cause the bit to snap. It always hurts me physically when people reverse the drill drive!!
@Inareth That bracket I cut out was never intended for mounting a HDD. If you want to see where they all go, watch my latest video. I go over all that. This was all meant to be part of a five part series.
@Inareth Now all I can see is Chuck Norris doing a round house kick to an OptiPlex out of a window, falling 30 floors, and smashing into the pavement. Oh, and because it's an 80's action movie type fall... it explodes halfway down for no apparent reason. Really though, that was my suspicion as well, that it was left over from the days of the floppy drive or a card reader. That being said, when I cut them out in the fan video, I told people it's just an aesthetic choice if you got plans for it or don't care, leave em' in.
Removed mine tonight and couldn’t figure out what was still holding it. I went back to this video and realized about the 4 that hold it to the back wall of the case. I was actually able to just use a regular drill bit and no extension myself, but I put the bit into the drill just enough for it to hold in order to make the bit “longer” and reach inside the cage
Didn’t want to get rid of the HDD cage on my Precision T1700 AM5 build, but there was just no way around it. You’re right about having the proper drill bits. I have an extension arm, but my cheapo Ryobi bits are rounded at the base. I ended up brute forcing the innermost rivets.
I have a Dell 990 I have had for years that I simply used tin-snips (Home Depot $10 Aviation Tin-Snip) to cut out the drive cage. Not as pretty looking as your suggestion, but cheap and fast, as I did not have to take the case apart. With a PSU upgrade I run a full size RX580 in it, but have also ran a Vega64 in it too.
@@TheGameBench Yeh, I have not had any problems, but caution should be taken, might not be a good option for everyone. I actually only cut out 1/2 the drive cage, leaving the bottom slot for another HD. I don't monkey around inside it much as it is upgraded as much as will ever be: i7ver. wSSD, 32GB,RX580,x2 spinningHD, DVDRW (almost all are spare parts from other builds) Anyway great videos, thanks for presenting sensible options, cheers!
I just upgraded from a GTX 670 to RTX 2070 in this Optiplex 9020. Glad to see this video because I found out the new GPU wouldn't fit! Thank you for this!
Yep, that's what started all this. Bought a hadful of them to flip as gaming PC's. Quickly found the GPU's didn't fit and 10 minutes later, the HDD cage was out and I started planning this video series. I'm glad you found it useful.
Great video and thanks! Watching you do this I'd say you have some drill skillz (pro quality Dewalt cordless doesn't hurt either). That being said I think a drill noob should definitely proceed with the utmost caution. While there certainly is no shortage of tech tubers, your no bs no hype approach is a bit rarer, and much appreciated.
Thanks! I keep hearing that you should amp up your personality two times for RUclips... and I'm fine just being myself. And yeah, you def need some finesse with the drill with these suckers.
@@TheGameBench Keep it up, even with good content some of those hyped-up and overproduced channels can be hard to take. They also have can tun ten minutes of content into a twenty-minute ordeal, what a yawn.
I have an older case (not nearly as old as that one), but it was designed for max 285mm videocards. Thankfully the hard drive cage at the front of the case was easily removable, I think this particular case (Lian Li PC-9F) was built with some future-proofing in mind.
That was pretty forward thinking. Good for use as a server or a gaming system. Just needs a little black paint and you might think it was a brand new case. Back when I was running a 2600K for my main rig I was using a Lian Li PC-7FNWX. Loved that case.
I built my first desktop way back in 2000 with the new AMD Duron with all the parts from Newegg and Tiger Direct and I've always loved tinkering with computers. Sadly my local Surplus Exchange closed late last winter which was a treasure trove of used junk. I did get a Dell Inspiron 560 for $20 and the Dell Optiplex 9020 for $25 (minus hard drives). Also a GTX 660 for $15 which I managed to squash into the 9020 and got a Windows Experience Index of 7.6. That's funny. But my newest game is from 2014 so...
Got my first one modded. Great instructions. I think the hardest/worse part is dealing with all the aluminum shavings from drilling. lol I did the drilling outside on my driveway but didn't like all the shaving on there. You know for those who like to go barefoot. Good thing I got a good shop vac.
Thanks! I found this actually to be a bit of a PITA (took forever to get through the bottom plastic), but I think that's because I was using a standard bit for the smaller pemserts; that's the only thing I had that would fit. I still got it done, and if the bit needs to be replaced due to damage, I am not too concerned right now; I have used that set twice in about 20 years, and I can't imagine when I'd need it again.
love your stuff man I did this today with rite along with your video in the garage to fit my rog 1070 and it went just ike you said it would, bluescreened at about 5 and have just now recovered but that was my fault. I think these Optiplex's are very underrated, the Honda civic of computers almost. i hope more people start doing things with these like you and Zach's Tech Turf. im not sure if you can trick this mobo to overclock or not but i know in another video you said if bios (forgive me if im wrong) A18 would let it use the 4790k.
Yep, I know. There are some models where the HDD cage isn't pinch riveted to the back of the case, and this method works great for those. Which I hadn't run into when I made this video. But it's not a great option to get it out cleanly where it is pinch riveted to the back. Not saying it won't work, but you're going to have to tear it out of there, and it's not likely to come out without mangling some stuff up.
I was told I’d have to do some modding if I reuse my old Dell Optiplex 780 tower but I’ve upgraded it so much now it’s a great home computer. I just might have to get a totally dead tower on the cheap. I like the building challenge.
I love watching you do this stuff but I'm just not industrious enough.. by the time I got all those parts detached I'd be browsing for a replacement case. 😂
I did not want to take everything out, but the reasoning was sound. I had to talk myself into it. The whole reason I bought the Dell was to avoid building a PC, after all! I had worked in desktop support during the capacitor fiasco, and after hundreds of motherboard replacements (I'm not exaggerating at all; my employer had thousands of PCs, and the capacitor issues went on for years), I'd had enough of that kind of experience to last me a lifetime. I procrastinated for a week after watching the video, but when I dove in and did it, it honestly wasn't that bad.
I used a nibbler to cut a hole for the fan. Turned out a little ragged, but it's much more open to airflow now. I probably get more from the 92mm fan that I put in there than you get from a 120 without cutting a hole, but of course the best is to cut a hole for a 120. You lose some structural integrity doing that, or course, so don't sit on your case once you do this :) I used a nibbler because I didn't want to buy a dremel. I've also used a nibbler to remove a grille in front of a PSU fan, as the PSU also has one and two grilles, in addition to the filter, just impede air flow. For the drive cage removal, I just angled the drill in there. I didn't need a bit extension.
No question, you're getting more airflow. I just wanted to give people the easiest option. You know, for a beginner. Just ask a beginner what a nibbler is, and they'd probably have no clue what you're talking about. I've wanted an excuse to buy one. Cutting a hole for a side panel might be the perfect excuse. That being said, I'm going to do a higher end build and I had decided to cut a hole for the fan as an alternative.
LOL. But it is actually possible with just a flathead screw driver. I've run into models that aren't pressed in at the back. Instead they used slots. All the other ones can be take out with a flat head and a hammer.
@@KINGPHANTOMw85 Yes, I've seen that in the 7010 and 9010 MT, but I've seen just as many of those with the pressed on cages at the back like in the video.
Ah, thank you very mulch for the help. I was trying the Net Guy's technique, but just drilling the outer rivets didn't cut it. Breaking the bar in the middle of the cage, then reaching in with the drill to catch the other four rivets did the trick. It's gone at last... but I didn't remove the components from the system before I attempted this, which worries me a touch. Only one way to find out if it functions!
This is the video that I'm looking for. I have an optiplex 9020 i7 4790.planning to upgrade into a gaming pc. Is there a video continuation to this were u put all together also with its upgrades. This video was very helpful to me.at first I'm planning to send my unit into a computershop which most likely charge more.this video tells me I can do it myself. Thank you so much! Subscribed!
Ha, I had just watched your previous Optiplex video this afternoon! Slight case modding is pretty fun, managed to drill out holes on a Dell XPS 8300 to be able to hold a 2.5´´ drive as it could not before. Not a hard mod or anything but still, bit proud of it lol
Exactly. It's interesting how none of the other videos, that I've seen, have done this. The first OptiPlex I got, I didn't do my research, and the GPU wouldn't fit. About 10 minutes later, the HDD cage was out. Makes such a difference.
I watched your video and just bought dell optiplex 9020 with i7 for a great price on facebook marketplace. I'll have some gaming fun with it and later will convert it to unraid server. Thanks man .
I have the 9010 and the hard drive case wasnt the issue, the SATA connectors being so close to the PCI slot was the problem. IF you guys saw what i did to make my GPU fit youd probably cringe, i made an amd RX 570 xxx edition fit in there
Yeah, I talked about that in the video before this. I really need to do a video about how to get around the SATA and USB3 port. Did you hack up your GPU shroud or something?
@@TheGameBench People seem avoidant to upgrading the PSU which is one of the lower cost parts in an Optiplex upgrade. It's the first thing I do. I try and find a modular PSU with 550 to 650 watts minimum. These can always be used in the next Optiplex one upgrades if they accept that future assignment. I keep my eyes out for a 9020, why not.
All that stuff I'll have to take out... I won't remember where all that goes. No way. How much worse are the smaller graphics cards? The GTX 1660 you talked about, it's still better than the Intel HD 4600 that came with mine, right? I've never really experienced anything faster than that. My computer struggles to play games from 2010+, so if I can play more modern games at at least 30-40 fps, I'll consider that a win
I'm thinking about doing this to a Precision T1600. It wasn't mentioned but I think it's the same chassis, or very similar. Only hangup I have is that I'd like to be able to reinstall the cage later with screws and nuts. I'm hoping that crossbar that got ripped out in the video is optional. I will eventually upgrade my gaming PC to a newer board in a "normal" case, at which point I might want the drive cage back in this one.
LOVE the series ! question , on a tight budget , I'm going to do this mod but aittle short on money to put a fan in , will the components over heat ? plan to just game a lot
How do i put my driver back in..? I want to tinker with my pc to fit this gtx 970 which is 10.5 inches. But before i do that i want to know all i can. Is there a process when you put everything back and show us the end result..?
Yeah, I didn't make it very clear in the video, but this was one part of a series. I go over installing the hard drive and mounting an SSD in that video. Here's a link to the section where I go over that. ruclips.net/video/snUV0wGPnPk/видео.html
So long as you have the tools to do it, I would say this is fairly intermediate. I would say a 4 or 5. The worst part is that you just need to take it slow on those rear rivets that hold the cage to the back of the case. You might get lucky with those on some xx10 models, maybe other, where they're not riveted. Seems there are some that are slotted in at the rear rather than riveted.
Hey man, thanks for the content. Watching this totally got me in the groove to make a gaming pc for my son this Christmas. I’m actually going back together with it but I’m having an issue with the temperature sensor placement (since I added the 140mm fan also, I had to order a 3 pin fan to molex adapter). Where did you place yours on the front cage?
That's why I prefer Lenovo ThinkStations for these kinds of builds - tool-less drive cages. Two clips and they are out of the case, no power tools and no hassle.
It's nice to see people build their PC. I'm personally really new into PC build so I don't know much about the systems, hardware, wattage calculation, and more. So um I have an Dell Optiplex 980 and I was thinking about upgrading it. The plan is about to upgrading the processor, GPU, RAM, and obviously the PSU. I have a problem to decide which GPU fits best because the heat sink is really cost a lot of space. I was wondering if GTX 750 Ti or GTX 1050 Ti would be the best I can get but then again the size of it's heat sink is way too huge. Do you have any suggestion for the GPU ? It would be perfect if you could suggest a GTX 1050 Ti with a specific models or manufacturers or even the single/dual fan.
Yeah, that heat sink is a real problem. The Tech Power Up GPU database has length information on a lot of GPUs that can help. I would avoid anything that makes contact with the heat sink. Especially if it doesn't have a back plate. However, you can use the bottom PCIe slot, but I would guess it's only wired as an x4, which isn't a big deal for something like a 1050 Ti or a 1650. Won't make a difference for a 750 Ti. Now, which GPU would be a good pairing depends on the CPU. If it's an i5, nothing more than about the 1050 Ti. If it's an i7 I'd say a 1060 6GB or a 1660 might be the best you want to go with. I wish I had one of those first gen CPU's to test with.
I would. Removing the cage is going to create loose metal which can find it's way between the motherboard. So if you don't, you run the risk of creating a short and damaging the motherboard.
Love the content and your videos have really helped me with my Optiplex build. I got a 7010 before finding your videos unfortunately but so far I have made it work for me. I am facing a minor problem right now , I was able to install a GTX 1070 XLR8 OC without any case mods to speak of. I had to sacrifice front USB 3.0. I am now trying to add a 3rd hard drive and get my disk drive working , but I can’t seem to find sata cables short enough to fit under my GPU. The SATA cables that came with my PC just barely clear however I can’t get an accurate measurement. The SATA cables that I purchased have a right angle to straight. Right angle being .8inches and the straight head being 1inch. Both are too long to fit under the GPU. Do you happen to know what sata cables would work for my situation? I would prefer to use the same cables for each SATA slot , I would be utilizing all 4. If you provide me with an amazon link I’ll be sure to purchase it :) . Keep up with the quality content , you’ve earned yourself a new subscriber and I’ve shown many people your videos
Sorry, this is probably at least a week and a half late. These are what I use with the xx10 models. For the drives on the bottom of the case: www.amazon.com/Silverstone-90-Degree-Low-Profile-Connectors-CP11B-300/dp/B00KTLGDGA/ref=sr_1_3?crid=NDIIJ0JQ5JVC&dchild=1&keywords=silverstone+low+profile+sata+cable&qid=1599453742&sprefix=Solverstone+low%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-3 For the drives at the top of the case: www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-SST-CP11B-500-Low-Profile-Connectors/dp/B00KTLGDZG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NDIIJ0JQ5JVC&dchild=1&keywords=silverstone+low+profile+sata+cable&qid=1599453742&sprefix=Solverstone+low%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-1 Also, you can use this for the USB3 port: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083XDQSWT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I'm glad I could help. It was literally the first thing I did when I started working on these. It was in the way of the 480 I was trying to install. Fifteen minutes later.... it was gone.
@@miniaturemage For the 580, absolutely. The power supply would most likely go into overcurrent protection and shut off. A good replacement option would be something like an EVGA BR series, and I'd suggest at least a 500 watt if you're replacing it. If you have a 20 series model, XE2, Precision T1700 or a similar Vostro with the 8-pin main power connection, you'll also need an adapter. Power Supply: www.amazon.com/EVGA-100-BR-0500-K1-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B07DTMXD83/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=EVGA+500BR&qid=1611601198&sr=8-1 xx20 Series Adapter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CJ411ZL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
You could use a hammer and a chisel or a bulky flat head screw driver and bust the ends off the rivets. However, if the cage is pressed in at the rear, that's going to be hard to do without drilling them, but I've heard from people that have just ripped it out. But I caution that could bend some things up if you're not careful. There are some models that have tabs you can bend out at the rear with the flat head, and then just lift it up and out once you've removed all the other rivets, which should be easy if you've got one of those models. Regardless, it's definitely possible without drilling.
Hi.please help me. My case is optiplex 3000 tower 2023. But for upgrade for gaming i dont khonw wich psu and gpu is ok with my case? For 500 or 600 watt and 8 gb or 4 gb pgu
@@TheStratus Which R9 270? Most of them will fit without removing the HDD cage, but there are some models that won't. As for the SATA power, that's highly dependent on which model.
@@TheStratus Okay, I'm looking at this from every angle and I can only think of three options that are going to work. The first being to replace the power supply, and then you can just remove the cable. The second option that's still not jank would be to remove the backplate on the GPU and that would make it a little more flexible. The third option I do not recommend, and that would be to shave down that edge on the connector. I don't suggest this because it would expose the pins and they would short on the backplate for sure so you'd have to seal it off somehow to keep it from shorting.
So what is the newest graphics card someone actually has used in this pc? I think dell has a limit on too new of a graphics card. I have a 600 watt psu, and the asus gtx 1650 super won't install the drivers. I get a display through the display port, but not the dvi port. I tried a zotac gtx1650, and it did the same thing. In either case cpuz shows a gtx 1650 or 1650super, but the drivers wont take. Also, i upgraded to a gtx 750super and it worked great, basically put it in and the drivers worked. I am just curious if the lastest bios update from 2019 is not new enough to handle the 1650s i bought.
Not really. You can fit a fan above the HDD cage. I just installed one recently and put an 80mm fan in one. You could fit a 92mm or a 120mm if you're not set about a clean fit.
The problem with an Optiplex, or a HP Prodesk or other similar corporate PC is the PSU is often Bespoke and does not offer any power for GPU's. Typically i have found the GT720 2GB is about the biggest card you can get that does not need additional power.
Actually, there are 1050 Ti models that don't require dedicated PCIe power that run just fine. I have one in an HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF with a 240 watt PSU. With a 4690K, it'a max total system power draw at a full system load was just under 130 watts. As for the xx20 series OptiPlex's, they have a 290 watt PSU and I've measured the power draw from the wall with these as well. You're fine up to about an RX480/RX570 or a GTX 1060/1660. Anything above that, and I would agree that a higher wattage PSU is a must.
I won't argue that. I do this because I have the tools, and with the intention that the person thinking about doing this has the tools or most of the tool, or was going to buy the tools for another reason. I'm not a huge fan of case swaps since the OptiPlex chassis is really sturdy. A lot more so than cheap cases. Plus making everything work can be a PITA since there are a lot of proprietary connections on the inside.
I have a Dell Optiplex 790 and I ordered a gigabyte gtx 1050 ti and didn't fit😡 The ram clamps didn't let the card go all the way in. Is there anything I can do? Or I just need to get a different card?
I've never had the RAM latches prevent me from installing the GPU, as long as they're closed. Unless it's got an abnormally tall backplate or something. I've installed a 1080 Ti FTW3 in an x90, xx10 and xx20 series board without any issues from the RAM slots.
Hey thanks for the great video man! Will a longer card cover the SATA ports in the 990 MT? It wasnt mentioned in your optiplex video and I have seen other videos where people put long cards in them but it is hard to see if it covers the SATA ports.
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but I just got one in today for testing and, yeah, they're in the way. Might be fine with certain cards, depending on the fan shroud. If it's a problem, Silverstone has some low profile SATA cables that should clear and let you use all of the ports.
@@TheGameBench will a 10 inch gpu covers the sata ports in 7010mt will it make sata ports unusable, Thinking of getting a msi 1650 super gaming x. Your prompt reply is appreciated 😊
@@farhansalim3143 So for the slow response. Yes, anything over 8.5 inches will overhang the SATA ports. However, they're not unusable. You'd just need low profile cables.
Thanks! I really do appreciate that. The closest thing I have to that would be a Patreon account, which I'm not really pushing as I don't have much to offer to people. Right now it's just early content. Not sure what I'll do in the future. www.patreon.com/thegamebench
I buy all of these from eBay (a little over 20 in total now) and in my most recent community post I showed that I bought two 9020's with i5 4570's, 8GB of RAM and 2TB HDD's. That listing sat up for well over a month. I even handed a link out to people making this exact claim and nobody jumped on it. So, I grabbed them both. He was asking $95 each, and accepted my offer of $85 a piece. After shipping, I paid $100 a pop. Hell of a deal. I've never paid more than $120 for the i5 9020's and I've gotten the i7 9020's as cheap as $200. I see them all the time and I pass them up to give other people a chance at getting them. Just remember that what people are asking and what they're getting aren't the same thing. Granted there are people out there paying the absurd prices, but it's very few. You just need to be persistent and patient. There have been times where it took me a month to find a listing pop up for a decent price. Just hang in there and you'll eventually find a deal.
@@TheGameBench thanks for the follow up. Very detailed. Awesome. Totally fair comments. And sorry for my somewhat frustrated tone. Apologies. Recently, some people recommended Facebook Marketplace and boy oh boy, people are crazy there. Between the gtx 1050 at $250 and the optiplex i3 at $350 hard to pick the best deal... But i get it, it is a question of time and good judgment. It is just so "grrrr" to see some vendor trying to pull a fast one on honest people. AE: "Work perfectly, except for the fan that is broken" Deuh Booba, if the fan is broken it is not working perfectly... It is probably because I leave near NYC. Thanks again for your answer and i'll for sure will keep watching your videos. Stay safe! Best,
@@Mambrax444 No worries. I have the same issues here on Facebook. I'm sure people pay that once in a while, not knowing any better. We have a lot of people around here trying to sell systems with an FX series CPU and a GTX 650 for $400. I hardly bother with Facebook anymore and just stick with eBay. Plus, I have the ability to get my money back if there's an issue. No problem, and good luck with your search.
@@Mambrax444 I decided to do a quick search on eBay and here's a listing I'd go for. Toss them an offer for $90, I'd bet they'd take it. Out the door it would be abut $110. It's a good deal for a 9020 with an i5 4590, 8GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD. Plus I've bought from this seller several times. They're solid. www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-9020-MT-Intel-Core-i5-4590-3-30Ghz-8GB-DDR3-500GB-HDD-No-OS/313050076384?hash=item48e33d14e0:g:BYIAAOSwlplej4Wo
@@TheGameBench sound like a solid option, let's see what happen. The shipping cost is quiet stiff ($40 for my zip code), but totally worth a shoot. Saw that one which sound pretty comparable : www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-Workstation-T1700-Intel-Core-i5-4590-3-30GHz-16GB-RAM-500GB-HDD/174182357186 I guest your point. Cheers
You must have an xx10 model? That's one of the reasons why I went with the xx20. With the xx10's you either have to limit yourself to GPU's under 8.5". Even if you do that, it might make sense to remove the HDD cage to add a front fan, maybe not. Just depends on the GPU. However, I did a recent community post showing people how to get around the SATA and USB3 ports with some low profile cables.
Watching this in August of 2021 is super frustrating because I want to start doing this again, but the GPU market is so completely screwed up that it's just not feasible. I could snag a 1060 and pay wayyyy too much for it, but then I'd have to charge way too much for the finished product that it'll be super hard to sell. Maybe one day...
You and me both. I've got a bunch of systems in my back room just because I can't sell them in the current situation. Thinking about grabbing a 980 or a 980 Ti and seeing how that goes. Seems to be about the most reasonable deal in GPU's right now. It will get better at some point... I just don't know if the demand for these systems will be there.
@@TheGameBench I recently was able to snag a 960 4GB for not too much and put it in a system that I then sold. Haven't been able to repeat that success, though. Now every 960 I see is touching $190+ BEFORE shipping. It's just not worth it.
Heres a good ?? If you replace the m/b with a newer mATX (B450, B550) do you have to reposition 1 or 2 of the standoff posts? Can a USB 3.0 (blue) be nicely installed in the front, so it looks just about OEM? Thank you 🤓
Well, there's no moving the standoffs in the Optiplex case as they're stamped into the motherboard tray. However, they're standard micro ATX so it should drop right in.
i have a optiplex 790 small factor and there is the same wire on 5:04 on my power supply i was wondering if i throw that away will my power supply function properly?
That wire is the thermal sensor and it doesn't really have anything to do with the power supply, so the system will function properly without it. However, it will cause the fans to run at full speed. I keep the sensor and bundle it with rest of the cables. ruclips.net/video/snUV0wGPnPk/видео.html
Then you missed something/didn't get everything drilled all the way out. Done over 20 of these systems and this method has worked perfectly, every time.
@@Medwolf No, this is a 9020, but the xx10 series are the same. However, I've seen a few where they're mounted to that backplate differently. Most of the time, they need to be drilled out, like in this video. However, I've seen some xx10 models where the cage is slotted into the back plate. One you remove the bottom rivets and all the points on the front panel, you should be able to simply lift the cage out of those slots and remove it.
I can add that to my list of things. After the budget build I will be doing a more high end build. I've even toyed with the idea of an absurd build in one.
Well, depends on the model of the GPU and the model of OptiPlex. You can manage to get anything around 9.5 inches in there without removing the HDD cage. However, the xx10 series and x90 series have the SATA ports, and USB3 in the xx10 series, are in the way and you need low profile cables to clear the GPU or the GPU can't be over 8.5 inches.
Technically, you don't have to, but I would HIGHLY recommend it. When you're cutting out the drive cage you're going to be creating loose bits of metal and they can end up behind board and cause a short and kill a component. So, while you don't have to, you definitely should remove everything from the case prior to cutting the drive cage out.
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If you already know what tools you need an how to tear the system down, just skip ahead to the removal. This is the second video in a series of five. I highly suggest watching them in order.
Timestamps:
Tools: 0:29
Teardown: 3:30
HDD Cage Removal: 5:44
Conclusion: 10:35
Can we put this hardware in the new case like like thermaltake p3 ? If yes than this motherboard hole pattern is standard ?
@@razaaali Yep, the board is a standard micro ATX pattern and can be swapped into another case. The mounting point for the heat sink, unlike an equivalent HP's, is also standard so you can mount any 115x compatible cooler. However, to get the power switch working, you're going to have to figure out the correct pins up top. I don't have a video on that and don't know if I will do one, but thankfully, Greg Salazar has done one that can get you sorted.
ruclips.net/video/TYRjgUojBnc/видео.html
Also, if you're using a 3020, 7020 or 9020 and you need to swap the PSU, you'll need a converter for the main ATX power, and this is the one that I've used for a few of these.
amzn.to/2J5RtJs
@Chabbaquq Yahudah Yahisreal What I said in the video was that the SATA ports as well as the USB3 will interfere with any GPU over about 8.5". Some people have gotten around this by using right angle SATA cables and just leave the front USB3 unplugged. However, this means you cold only use two of the three SATA ports. Also, I've talked to some people that have tried this and it doesn't work. It seems it's dependent on the GPU and it's shroud. However, since making this video I've found some low profile SATA cable that might be able to allow you to use all three SATA ports regardless of the GPU as well as a USB3 cable that will allow you to keep the front USB3 as well.
DUDE THATS A OEM PC .....HOW U GET IT ....AND AINT THAT ILEGAL.
Is a ryzen cpu compatible in a optiplex computer
Guy is extremely underrated
More Optiplex Content?? That's a new sub and notification bell turned on. Keep up the good videos!!
Thanks! I really appreciate it! And yep, I'm working on the next video now.
Thank you again for posting another "OptiPlex" video, they are always very helpful to me!
Thanks! I'm glad you're find these helpful.
I've watched a ton of videos on the Optiplex. You are the first one to deal straightforwardly with the Intrusion Switch. You just solved my problem! Thanks!
HOLY SHHHHH can your hair get anymore Borderlands? wicked awesome!
That is just what I was thinking lmao!
Looks like yondu from guardians of the galaxy
Great drilling technique sir! When drilling, as opposed to screwing, the drill should only be spinning in the forward drive. Once the hole is bored, the drill bit is designed to be pulled out while being rotated in the same drive in order to burr out stray material. When people reverse the drill bit to pull it out, it also damages the cutting edge of the drill, which heats it up and may cause the bit to snap. It always hurts me physically when people reverse the drill drive!!
dude relax he just using a drill . u must not work .
Bought a 1660ti for a killer deal but it would collide with the drive cage. Just did this mod, so grateful for your videos!
hahaha "BUT MAH DRIVES?!". I died.
😂😂
@Inareth That bracket I cut out was never intended for mounting a HDD. If you want to see where they all go, watch my latest video. I go over all that. This was all meant to be part of a five part series.
@Inareth Now all I can see is Chuck Norris doing a round house kick to an OptiPlex out of a window, falling 30 floors, and smashing into the pavement. Oh, and because it's an 80's action movie type fall... it explodes halfway down for no apparent reason.
Really though, that was my suspicion as well, that it was left over from the days of the floppy drive or a card reader. That being said, when I cut them out in the fan video, I told people it's just an aesthetic choice if you got plans for it or don't care, leave em' in.
I had English captions on and it said Madras 😂
@@MrMctuck Hahaha. Seem I need to run through the generated captions and correct some crap.
Damn man...your hair isn't running loose around. You the master of your own scalp. Thanks for this video. I'm upgrading my Dell opti 9020. .
Removed mine tonight and couldn’t figure out what was still holding it. I went back to this video and realized about the 4 that hold it to the back wall of the case. I was actually able to just use a regular drill bit and no extension myself, but I put the bit into the drill just enough for it to hold in order to make the bit “longer” and reach inside the cage
Didn’t want to get rid of the HDD cage on my Precision T1700 AM5 build, but there was just no way around it. You’re right about having the proper drill bits. I have an extension arm, but my cheapo Ryobi bits are rounded at the base. I ended up brute forcing the innermost rivets.
I have a Dell 990 I have had for years that I simply used tin-snips (Home Depot $10 Aviation Tin-Snip) to cut out the drive cage. Not as pretty looking as your suggestion, but cheap and fast, as I did not have to take the case apart. With a PSU upgrade I run a full size RX580 in it, but have also ran a Vega64 in it too.
I cut my hands reading this comment.
But really, if it works...
@@TheGameBench Yeh, I have not had any problems, but caution should be taken, might not be a good option for everyone. I actually only cut out 1/2 the drive cage, leaving the bottom slot for another HD. I don't monkey around inside it much as it is upgraded as much as will ever be: i7ver. wSSD, 32GB,RX580,x2 spinningHD, DVDRW (almost all are spare parts from other builds) Anyway great videos, thanks for presenting sensible options, cheers!
Your videos have helped me so much. Just coming back to say Thanks. Got both a bigger GPU and mounted a fan at the front thanks to your videos.
Awesome! Glad I could help.
Just scored a Dell like this, looking forward to the completion of this series!
Thank you! I'm just wrapping up filming on the next video, so it should be up soon.
I just upgraded from a GTX 670 to RTX 2070 in this Optiplex 9020. Glad to see this video because I found out the new GPU wouldn't fit! Thank you for this!
Yep, that's what started all this. Bought a hadful of them to flip as gaming PC's. Quickly found the GPU's didn't fit and 10 minutes later, the HDD cage was out and I started planning this video series. I'm glad you found it useful.
Great video and thanks!
Watching you do this I'd say you have some drill skillz (pro quality Dewalt cordless doesn't hurt either).
That being said I think a drill noob should definitely proceed with the utmost caution.
While there certainly is no shortage of tech tubers, your no bs no hype approach is a bit rarer, and much appreciated.
Thanks! I keep hearing that you should amp up your personality two times for RUclips... and I'm fine just being myself. And yeah, you def need some finesse with the drill with these suckers.
@@TheGameBench Keep it up, even with good content some of those hyped-up and overproduced channels can be hard to take. They also have can tun ten minutes of content into a twenty-minute ordeal, what a yawn.
I have an older case (not nearly as old as that one), but it was designed for max 285mm videocards. Thankfully the hard drive cage at the front of the case was easily removable, I think this particular case (Lian Li PC-9F) was built with some future-proofing in mind.
That was pretty forward thinking. Good for use as a server or a gaming system. Just needs a little black paint and you might think it was a brand new case. Back when I was running a 2600K for my main rig I was using a Lian Li PC-7FNWX. Loved that case.
I built my first desktop way back in 2000 with the new AMD Duron with all the parts from Newegg and Tiger Direct and I've always loved tinkering with computers. Sadly my local Surplus Exchange closed late last winter which was a treasure trove of used junk. I did get a Dell Inspiron 560 for $20 and the Dell Optiplex 9020 for $25 (minus hard drives). Also a GTX 660 for $15 which I managed to squash into the 9020 and got a Windows Experience Index of 7.6. That's funny. But my newest game is from 2014 so...
Got my first one modded. Great instructions. I think the hardest/worse part is dealing with all the aluminum shavings from drilling. lol I did the drilling outside on my driveway but didn't like all the shaving on there. You know for those who like to go barefoot. Good thing I got a good shop vac.
Haha, yeah. Even worse if you use a stepper bit to do the fan mod.
Building my 3rd 9020. All thanks to you buddy :)
Such a great job (with both optiplex videos). Finally someone put some facts, than just describe topic genarally. Waiting for next!
Thanks! I stress a lot about that while making these. Glad to know that's coming through.
The drilling is giving me a hell of a long time. I even have the same tips I guess my drills are wack.
My guess... the bits are dull. Should be able to chew through the metal on the cases pretty easy.
Thanks! I found this actually to be a bit of a PITA (took forever to get through the bottom plastic), but I think that's because I was using a standard bit for the smaller pemserts; that's the only thing I had that would fit. I still got it done, and if the bit needs to be replaced due to damage, I am not too concerned right now; I have used that set twice in about 20 years, and I can't imagine when I'd need it again.
love your stuff man I did this today with rite along with your video in the garage to fit my rog 1070 and it went just ike you said it would, bluescreened at about 5 and have just now recovered but that was my fault. I think these Optiplex's are very underrated, the Honda civic of computers almost. i hope more people start doing things with these like you and Zach's Tech Turf. im not sure if you can trick this mobo to overclock or not but i know in another video you said if bios (forgive me if im wrong) A18 would let it use the 4790k.
you can also use a hammer and a flat head screwdriver to remove the rivets and get the hard drive cage out
Yep, I know. There are some models where the HDD cage isn't pinch riveted to the back of the case, and this method works great for those. Which I hadn't run into when I made this video. But it's not a great option to get it out cleanly where it is pinch riveted to the back. Not saying it won't work, but you're going to have to tear it out of there, and it's not likely to come out without mangling some stuff up.
cheers i would probably remove the disk drive cage as well and make a mount for it
I was told I’d have to do some modding if I reuse my old Dell Optiplex 780 tower but I’ve upgraded it so much now it’s a great home computer. I just might have to get a totally dead tower on the cheap. I like the building challenge.
These have been a lot of fun to mess with and keep me from constantly feeling the itch to build new systems for no reason.
I love watching you do this stuff but I'm just not industrious enough.. by the time I got all those parts detached I'd be browsing for a replacement case. 😂
Haha! I totally get it. Kinda' at the same cross roads with my main rig.
I did not want to take everything out, but the reasoning was sound. I had to talk myself into it. The whole reason I bought the Dell was to avoid building a PC, after all! I had worked in desktop support during the capacitor fiasco, and after hundreds of motherboard replacements (I'm not exaggerating at all; my employer had thousands of PCs, and the capacitor issues went on for years), I'd had enough of that kind of experience to last me a lifetime. I procrastinated for a week after watching the video, but when I dove in and did it, it honestly wasn't that bad.
awesome video, I am going to refurbish our OptiPlex to use for myself.
I used a nibbler to cut a hole for the fan. Turned out a little ragged, but it's much more open to airflow now. I probably get more from the 92mm fan that I put in there than you get from a 120 without cutting a hole, but of course the best is to cut a hole for a 120. You lose some structural integrity doing that, or course, so don't sit on your case once you do this :) I used a nibbler because I didn't want to buy a dremel. I've also used a nibbler to remove a grille in front of a PSU fan, as the PSU also has one and two grilles, in addition to the filter, just impede air flow.
For the drive cage removal, I just angled the drill in there. I didn't need a bit extension.
No question, you're getting more airflow. I just wanted to give people the easiest option. You know, for a beginner. Just ask a beginner what a nibbler is, and they'd probably have no clue what you're talking about. I've wanted an excuse to buy one. Cutting a hole for a side panel might be the perfect excuse.
That being said, I'm going to do a higher end build and I had decided to cut a hole for the fan as an alternative.
Nicky done. Makes removing look super easy. Have everything accept the extension bit. ORDERED! Thanks for the link.
Thanks! I really appreciate it.
Him: Talking about all these tools
Me: Holding JUST a screwdriver
LOL.
But it is actually possible with just a flathead screw driver. I've run into models that aren't pressed in at the back. Instead they used slots. All the other ones can be take out with a flat head and a hammer.
@@TheGameBench Was one of te models a 7010 mt?
@@KINGPHANTOMw85 Yes, I've seen that in the 7010 and 9010 MT, but I've seen just as many of those with the pressed on cages at the back like in the video.
Ah, thank you very mulch for the help. I was trying the Net Guy's technique, but just drilling the outer rivets didn't cut it. Breaking the bar in the middle of the cage, then reaching in with the drill to catch the other four rivets did the trick. It's gone at last... but I didn't remove the components from the system before I attempted this, which worries me a touch. Only one way to find out if it functions!
This is the video that I'm looking for. I have an optiplex 9020 i7 4790.planning to upgrade into a gaming pc. Is there a video continuation to this were u put all together also with its upgrades. This video was very helpful to me.at first I'm planning to send my unit into a computershop which most likely charge more.this video tells me I can do it myself. Thank you so much! Subscribed!
Thanks! Yep, I'm working on the fan video right now and then I'm thinking about doing a video on graphics card selection followed by the build video.
Ha, I had just watched your previous Optiplex video this afternoon! Slight case modding is pretty fun, managed to drill out holes on a Dell XPS 8300 to be able to hold a 2.5´´ drive as it could not before. Not a hard mod or anything but still, bit proud of it lol
Exactly. It's interesting how none of the other videos, that I've seen, have done this. The first OptiPlex I got, I didn't do my research, and the GPU wouldn't fit. About 10 minutes later, the HDD cage was out. Makes such a difference.
I watched your video and just bought dell optiplex 9020 with i7 for a great price on facebook marketplace. I'll have some gaming fun with it and later will convert it to unraid server.
Thanks man .
Awesome! Glad you found it useful.
Precision T1650, T1700, T3620 also share the same motherboard / case design.
I have the 9010 and the hard drive case wasnt the issue, the SATA connectors being so close to the PCI slot was the problem. IF you guys saw what i did to make my GPU fit youd probably cringe, i made an amd RX 570 xxx edition fit in there
Yeah, I talked about that in the video before this. I really need to do a video about how to get around the SATA and USB3 port. Did you hack up your GPU shroud or something?
After some research I think the biggest GPU the stock MT powersupply can handle is a 1070ti. Will test it when I can find one for a good price.
Well, it might be able to power it... but it's not a good idea regardless.
Hi dale.
Can hd 6850 run on stock psu?
@@TheGameBench People seem avoidant to upgrading the PSU which is one of the lower cost parts in an Optiplex upgrade. It's the first thing I do. I try and find a modular PSU with 550 to 650 watts minimum. These can always be used in the next Optiplex one upgrades if they accept that future assignment. I keep my eyes out for a 9020, why not.
I took everything out of the case and spray painted the inside all black. I found a spot below to disc drive to zip tie my drives in place
I do want to do a video on that, but I want to drill out all the rivets and disassemble the chassis before I paint it, then rivet it back together.
All that stuff I'll have to take out... I won't remember where all that goes. No way. How much worse are the smaller graphics cards? The GTX 1660 you talked about, it's still better than the Intel HD 4600 that came with mine, right? I've never really experienced anything faster than that. My computer struggles to play games from 2010+, so if I can play more modern games at at least 30-40 fps, I'll consider that a win
I'm thinking about doing this to a Precision T1600. It wasn't mentioned but I think it's the same chassis, or very similar.
Only hangup I have is that I'd like to be able to reinstall the cage later with screws and nuts. I'm hoping that crossbar that got ripped out in the video is optional.
I will eventually upgrade my gaming PC to a newer board in a "normal" case, at which point I might want the drive cage back in this one.
Great video, I recommend safety glasses when using a drill!
If you wanted to you could use the floppy disk drive bay for a hard drive slot it works I've used it and I like your idea
I actually tried that with the first one I did, but I didn't like how it looked. I ended up cutting those tabs out.
LOVE the series ! question , on a tight budget , I'm going to do this mod but aittle short on money to put a fan in , will the components over heat ? plan to just game a lot
How do i put my driver back in..? I want to tinker with my pc to fit this gtx 970 which is 10.5 inches. But before i do that i want to know all i can. Is there a process when you put everything back and show us the end result..?
Yeah, I didn't make it very clear in the video, but this was one part of a series. I go over installing the hard drive and mounting an SSD in that video. Here's a link to the section where I go over that.
ruclips.net/video/snUV0wGPnPk/видео.html
Oh man so should I buy a 3090 instead of the 3020? This journey has been far more difficult and confusing than I ever imagined
My Optiplex 390 had some lock sliders on the cage... the side and back rivets came out easily.. it was the sliders that were difficult.
Yeah, after I did this video I found that to be the case on some of the xx10 series models as well.
@@TheGameBench Thanks for posting this... I have a few Optiplex 390's I have to work on and your videos are a great help.
On a scale of 1 to 10 how easy would it be to do this
So long as you have the tools to do it, I would say this is fairly intermediate. I would say a 4 or 5. The worst part is that you just need to take it slow on those rear rivets that hold the cage to the back of the case. You might get lucky with those on some xx10 models, maybe other, where they're not riveted. Seems there are some that are slotted in at the rear rather than riveted.
I’m planning to get a rx 580 but I’m worried my gpu brackets on the back of pc is to small
On your Optiplex? If it's an MT, there 4 slots on the back and I can't think of any 580 that won't fit in the Opti once you remove the HDD cage.
If it's the 2 fan 8GB Radeon. Yes, you have to remove that lousy cage to fit it.
Hey man, thanks for the content. Watching this totally got me in the groove to make a gaming pc for my son this Christmas. I’m actually going back together with it but I’m having an issue with the temperature sensor placement (since I added the 140mm fan also, I had to order a 3 pin fan to molex adapter). Where did you place yours on the front cage?
Awesome! I just zip tie it to the USB front header cables.
The Game Bench that’s great! Thank you for getting back to me. I’d love to show you some pictures and just say thank you.
That's why I prefer Lenovo ThinkStations for these kinds of builds - tool-less drive cages. Two clips and they are out of the case, no power tools and no hassle.
I've been thinking about doing a comparison between the HP's and Lenovo's from the same generation.
That was useful! thanks a lot!!
Sire thing... glad you found it useful.
I just used an angle grinder and cut the top half of the tray off so I can still put a hard drive in the bottom
It's nice to see people build their PC. I'm personally really new into PC build so I don't know much about the systems, hardware, wattage calculation, and more. So um I have an Dell Optiplex 980 and I was thinking about upgrading it. The plan is about to upgrading the processor, GPU, RAM, and obviously the PSU. I have a problem to decide which GPU fits best because the heat sink is really cost a lot of space.
I was wondering if GTX 750 Ti or GTX 1050 Ti would be the best I can get but then again the size of it's heat sink is way too huge. Do you have any suggestion for the GPU ? It would be perfect if you could suggest a GTX 1050 Ti with a specific models or manufacturers or even the single/dual fan.
Yeah, that heat sink is a real problem. The Tech Power Up GPU database has length information on a lot of GPUs that can help. I would avoid anything that makes contact with the heat sink. Especially if it doesn't have a back plate. However, you can use the bottom PCIe slot, but I would guess it's only wired as an x4, which isn't a big deal for something like a 1050 Ti or a 1650. Won't make a difference for a 750 Ti.
Now, which GPU would be a good pairing depends on the CPU. If it's an i5, nothing more than about the 1050 Ti. If it's an i7 I'd say a 1060 6GB or a 1660 might be the best you want to go with. I wish I had one of those first gen CPU's to test with.
its on the 990's as well
love your videos.
I know I am late but is it really that nesscary to remove the motherboard (I am putting an rx 570)
I would. Removing the cage is going to create loose metal which can find it's way between the motherboard. So if you don't, you run the risk of creating a short and damaging the motherboard.
@@TheGameBench but what If I put a piece of cardboard in the middle where the metal and motherboard has no conatact (thx for replying)
yes thank you!
U dont actually need a drill all u need is a flat had screw driver which is the same size as the rivets
Love the content and your videos have really helped me with my Optiplex build. I got a 7010 before finding your videos unfortunately but so far I have made it work for me. I am facing a minor problem right now , I was able to install a GTX 1070 XLR8 OC without any case mods to speak of. I had to sacrifice front USB 3.0. I am now trying to add a 3rd hard drive and get my disk drive working , but I can’t seem to find sata cables short enough to fit under my GPU. The SATA cables that came with my PC just barely clear however I can’t get an accurate measurement. The SATA cables that I purchased have a right angle to straight. Right angle being .8inches and the straight head being 1inch. Both are too long to fit under the GPU. Do you happen to know what sata cables would work for my situation? I would prefer to use the same cables for each SATA slot , I would be utilizing all 4. If you provide me with an amazon link I’ll be sure to purchase it :) . Keep up with the quality content , you’ve earned yourself a new subscriber and I’ve shown many people your videos
Sorry, this is probably at least a week and a half late. These are what I use with the xx10 models.
For the drives on the bottom of the case: www.amazon.com/Silverstone-90-Degree-Low-Profile-Connectors-CP11B-300/dp/B00KTLGDGA/ref=sr_1_3?crid=NDIIJ0JQ5JVC&dchild=1&keywords=silverstone+low+profile+sata+cable&qid=1599453742&sprefix=Solverstone+low%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-3
For the drives at the top of the case: www.amazon.com/SilverStone-Technology-SST-CP11B-500-Low-Profile-Connectors/dp/B00KTLGDZG/ref=sr_1_1?crid=NDIIJ0JQ5JVC&dchild=1&keywords=silverstone+low+profile+sata+cable&qid=1599453742&sprefix=Solverstone+low%2Caps%2C216&sr=8-1
Also, you can use this for the USB3 port: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B083XDQSWT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
“But ma drives” 😂
OMG THANK YOU, I thought I had to give up my RX 580 8GB that I got for $87 on offerup.
Bloody hdd cage was in the way of it.
I'm glad I could help. It was literally the first thing I did when I started working on these. It was in the way of the 480 I was trying to install. Fifteen minutes later.... it was gone.
I also found this video, because of an RX-580. Did you have to replace the PSU? I've got one in my shopping cart, but I haven't bought it, yet.
@@miniaturemage For the 580, absolutely. The power supply would most likely go into overcurrent protection and shut off. A good replacement option would be something like an EVGA BR series, and I'd suggest at least a 500 watt if you're replacing it. If you have a 20 series model, XE2, Precision T1700 or a similar Vostro with the 8-pin main power connection, you'll also need an adapter.
Power Supply: www.amazon.com/EVGA-100-BR-0500-K1-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B07DTMXD83/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=EVGA+500BR&qid=1611601198&sr=8-1
xx20 Series Adapter: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07CJ411ZL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
So the only option to get the hard drive cage out is to drill out holes? I can’t remove the screws with something?
You could use a hammer and a chisel or a bulky flat head screw driver and bust the ends off the rivets. However, if the cage is pressed in at the rear, that's going to be hard to do without drilling them, but I've heard from people that have just ripped it out. But I caution that could bend some things up if you're not careful. There are some models that have tabs you can bend out at the rear with the flat head, and then just lift it up and out once you've removed all the other rivets, which should be easy if you've got one of those models.
Regardless, it's definitely possible without drilling.
Hi.please help me. My case is optiplex 3000 tower 2023. But for upgrade for gaming i dont khonw wich psu and gpu is ok with my case? For 500 or 600 watt and 8 gb or 4 gb pgu
May try this with my old Acer.
under rated
I just got an Optiplex 3020 from eBay for $51 ($82 with shipping). It came with an i5 4590, 8gb ram, and a 500gb hdd
That's a good deal for a 3020.
The Game Bench Do you think an R9 270 can fit if I remove the sata power without removing the cage?
@@TheStratus Which R9 270? Most of them will fit without removing the HDD cage, but there are some models that won't. As for the SATA power, that's highly dependent on which model.
The Game Bench It’s the power color R9 270 with the clear fans. I did a test fit, it almost fits but the sata power is in the way
@@TheStratus Okay, I'm looking at this from every angle and I can only think of three options that are going to work. The first being to replace the power supply, and then you can just remove the cable. The second option that's still not jank would be to remove the backplate on the GPU and that would make it a little more flexible. The third option I do not recommend, and that would be to shave down that edge on the connector. I don't suggest this because it would expose the pins and they would short on the backplate for sure so you'd have to seal it off somehow to keep it from shorting.
the first 4 items you called rivets that you drilled out are called clinch nuts.
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing.Thanks for the heads up on the Optiplex Facebook group.
Any time!
So what is the newest graphics card someone actually has used in this pc?
I think dell has a limit on too new of a graphics card. I have a 600 watt psu, and the asus gtx 1650 super won't install the drivers.
I get a display through the display port, but not the dvi port.
I tried a zotac gtx1650, and it did the same thing. In either case cpuz shows a gtx 1650 or 1650super, but the drivers wont take.
Also, i upgraded to a gtx 750super and it worked great, basically put it in and the drivers worked. I am just curious if the lastest bios update from 2019 is not new enough to handle the 1650s i bought.
If my graphics card is smaller than 10 inches , would I still need to remove the cage to install a fan?
Not really. You can fit a fan above the HDD cage. I just installed one recently and put an 80mm fan in one. You could fit a 92mm or a 120mm if you're not set about a clean fit.
The problem with an Optiplex, or a HP Prodesk or other similar corporate PC is the PSU is often Bespoke and does not offer any power for GPU's. Typically i have found the GT720 2GB is about the biggest card you can get that does not need additional power.
Actually, there are 1050 Ti models that don't require dedicated PCIe power that run just fine. I have one in an HP ProDesk 600 G1 SFF with a 240 watt PSU. With a 4690K, it'a max total system power draw at a full system load was just under 130 watts.
As for the xx20 series OptiPlex's, they have a 290 watt PSU and I've measured the power draw from the wall with these as well. You're fine up to about an RX480/RX570 or a GTX 1060/1660.
Anything above that, and I would agree that a higher wattage PSU is a must.
Ngl with all that u have to do with this case it might be a better solution to just get a new case all together.
I won't argue that. I do this because I have the tools, and with the intention that the person thinking about doing this has the tools or most of the tool, or was going to buy the tools for another reason. I'm not a huge fan of case swaps since the OptiPlex chassis is really sturdy. A lot more so than cheap cases. Plus making everything work can be a PITA since there are a lot of proprietary connections on the inside.
Bro i am u r fan can u plz tell me which electronics course have u done u r really a tech wiz plz tell me even I want to learn.
I've actually never taken any schooling for this, and I have no degrees.
You are cool
Than you for showing us
Thanks for watching it.
I have a Dell Optiplex 790 and I ordered a gigabyte gtx 1050 ti and didn't fit😡
The ram clamps didn't let the card go all the way in.
Is there anything I can do?
Or I just need to get a different card?
I've never had the RAM latches prevent me from installing the GPU, as long as they're closed. Unless it's got an abnormally tall backplate or something. I've installed a 1080 Ti FTW3 in an x90, xx10 and xx20 series board without any issues from the RAM slots.
Hey thanks for the great video man! Will a longer card cover the SATA ports in the 990 MT? It wasnt mentioned in your optiplex video and I have seen other videos where people put long cards in them but it is hard to see if it covers the SATA ports.
It's hard to tell from the pictures, but I just got one in today for testing and, yeah, they're in the way. Might be fine with certain cards, depending on the fan shroud. If it's a problem, Silverstone has some low profile SATA cables that should clear and let you use all of the ports.
@@TheGameBench will a 10 inch gpu covers the sata ports in 7010mt will it make sata ports unusable,
Thinking of getting a msi 1650 super gaming x.
Your prompt reply is appreciated 😊
@@farhansalim3143 So for the slow response. Yes, anything over 8.5 inches will overhang the SATA ports. However, they're not unusable. You'd just need low profile cables.
@@TheGameBench Thanks
purchased 1650super
I have a rx 6500xt, the ram is in the way of it and it won’t fit with all the wires in there. Please help.
Are you saying that the RAM clips are preventing the GPU from going in? And are there wires in the way as well? What model do you have specifically?
@@TheGameBench I have a dell optiplex 790
I really appreciate this video and all the effort put into this whole series. Do you have donate link or crypto or something?
Thanks! I really do appreciate that. The closest thing I have to that would be a Patreon account, which I'm not really pushing as I don't have much to offer to people. Right now it's just early content. Not sure what I'll do in the future.
www.patreon.com/thegamebench
not sure where you guys find those deals but there is nothing (tower, i5/i7)... for sale on Ebay below $150/180.
I buy all of these from eBay (a little over 20 in total now) and in my most recent community post I showed that I bought two 9020's with i5 4570's, 8GB of RAM and 2TB HDD's. That listing sat up for well over a month. I even handed a link out to people making this exact claim and nobody jumped on it. So, I grabbed them both. He was asking $95 each, and accepted my offer of $85 a piece. After shipping, I paid $100 a pop. Hell of a deal. I've never paid more than $120 for the i5 9020's and I've gotten the i7 9020's as cheap as $200. I see them all the time and I pass them up to give other people a chance at getting them. Just remember that what people are asking and what they're getting aren't the same thing. Granted there are people out there paying the absurd prices, but it's very few. You just need to be persistent and patient. There have been times where it took me a month to find a listing pop up for a decent price. Just hang in there and you'll eventually find a deal.
@@TheGameBench thanks for the follow up. Very detailed. Awesome. Totally fair comments. And sorry for my somewhat frustrated tone. Apologies.
Recently, some people recommended Facebook Marketplace and boy oh boy, people are crazy there. Between the gtx 1050 at $250 and the optiplex i3 at $350 hard to pick the best deal... But i get it, it is a question of time and good judgment. It is just so "grrrr" to see some vendor trying to pull a fast one on honest people. AE: "Work perfectly, except for the fan that is broken" Deuh Booba, if the fan is broken it is not working perfectly... It is probably because I leave near NYC.
Thanks again for your answer and i'll for sure will keep watching your videos. Stay safe! Best,
@@Mambrax444 No worries. I have the same issues here on Facebook. I'm sure people pay that once in a while, not knowing any better. We have a lot of people around here trying to sell systems with an FX series CPU and a GTX 650 for $400. I hardly bother with Facebook anymore and just stick with eBay. Plus, I have the ability to get my money back if there's an issue. No problem, and good luck with your search.
@@Mambrax444 I decided to do a quick search on eBay and here's a listing I'd go for. Toss them an offer for $90, I'd bet they'd take it. Out the door it would be abut $110. It's a good deal for a 9020 with an i5 4590, 8GB of RAM and a 500GB HDD. Plus I've bought from this seller several times. They're solid.
www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Optiplex-9020-MT-Intel-Core-i5-4590-3-30Ghz-8GB-DDR3-500GB-HDD-No-OS/313050076384?hash=item48e33d14e0:g:BYIAAOSwlplej4Wo
@@TheGameBench sound like a solid option, let's see what happen. The shipping cost is quiet stiff ($40 for my zip code), but totally worth a shoot. Saw that one which sound pretty comparable :
www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-Precision-Workstation-T1700-Intel-Core-i5-4590-3-30GHz-16GB-RAM-500GB-HDD/174182357186
I guest your point.
Cheers
This is the project I'm currently working on, got a gtx 1060 turbo and can't install it until I get the cage out.
Plot twist I got the gtx 1060 installed it worked fine now I'm using a rtx 2060 super🤣😂.
Hey Clint, where can I find your “community page”?
If you just go on my main channel page, there's a tab for the community page. But here's a link:
ruclips.net/user/TheGameBenchcommunity
Will the graphics card interfere with the USB header on the motherboard? It seems lined up for some larger cards..
You must have an xx10 model? That's one of the reasons why I went with the xx20. With the xx10's you either have to limit yourself to GPU's under 8.5". Even if you do that, it might make sense to remove the HDD cage to add a front fan, maybe not. Just depends on the GPU. However, I did a recent community post showing people how to get around the SATA and USB3 ports with some low profile cables.
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Can someone post a link to the build video showing where the drive goes after removing the bracket?
ruclips.net/video/snUV0wGPnPk/видео.html
love the vid
Thank you
You're welcome... and thanks for watching.
Watching this in August of 2021 is super frustrating because I want to start doing this again, but the GPU market is so completely screwed up that it's just not feasible. I could snag a 1060 and pay wayyyy too much for it, but then I'd have to charge way too much for the finished product that it'll be super hard to sell.
Maybe one day...
You and me both. I've got a bunch of systems in my back room just because I can't sell them in the current situation. Thinking about grabbing a 980 or a 980 Ti and seeing how that goes. Seems to be about the most reasonable deal in GPU's right now. It will get better at some point... I just don't know if the demand for these systems will be there.
@@TheGameBench I recently was able to snag a 960 4GB for not too much and put it in a system that I then sold. Haven't been able to repeat that success, though. Now every 960 I see is touching $190+ BEFORE shipping. It's just not worth it.
Heres a good ?? If you replace the m/b with a newer mATX (B450, B550) do you have to reposition 1 or 2 of the standoff posts? Can a USB 3.0 (blue) be nicely installed in the front, so it looks just about OEM? Thank you 🤓
Well, there's no moving the standoffs in the Optiplex case as they're stamped into the motherboard tray. However, they're standard micro ATX so it should drop right in.
@@TheGameBench ok thanks. I havent removed the existing m/b, as I dont have a new 1 yet - sorta waiting on B550 mATX info!
I need a video like this for a Dell Optiplex 980 MT.
Looking at the inside, it looks pretty similar. If I could find a good deal on one, I would consider picking it up to do a quick video.
i have a optiplex 790 small factor and there is the same wire on 5:04 on my power supply i was wondering if i throw that away will my power supply function properly?
That wire is the thermal sensor and it doesn't really have anything to do with the power supply, so the system will function properly without it. However, it will cause the fans to run at full speed. I keep the sensor and bundle it with rest of the cables.
ruclips.net/video/snUV0wGPnPk/видео.html
Lenovo s30 is it better than 17 4790 if i add 1080ti
BUT MAH DRIVES
Did not work tried for ages, what a waste of time, took all the rivets out and would not budge beware
Then you missed something/didn't get everything drilled all the way out. Done over 20 of these systems and this method has worked perfectly, every time.
The Game Bench oh are you using the 3010mt?
@@Medwolf No, this is a 9020, but the xx10 series are the same. However, I've seen a few where they're mounted to that backplate differently. Most of the time, they need to be drilled out, like in this video. However, I've seen some xx10 models where the cage is slotted into the back plate. One you remove the bottom rivets and all the points on the front panel, you should be able to simply lift the cage out of those slots and remove it.
Awesome thanks. Can you show how to put a RGB strip in towards the front? how to connect it
I can add that to my list of things. After the budget build I will be doing a more high end build. I've even toyed with the idea of an absurd build in one.
is a rx 470 still fine to fit in normally?
Well, depends on the model of the GPU and the model of OptiPlex. You can manage to get anything around 9.5 inches in there without removing the HDD cage. However, the xx10 series and x90 series have the SATA ports, and USB3 in the xx10 series, are in the way and you need low profile cables to clear the GPU or the GPU can't be over 8.5 inches.
DELL Precision T3620 & T1700 have the same inside's also
Good info. They're quite different looking on the outside.
Do i have to remove everything out of my case? Or can i just remove the hd cage. Please help!
Technically, you don't have to, but I would HIGHLY recommend it. When you're cutting out the drive cage you're going to be creating loose bits of metal and they can end up behind board and cause a short and kill a component. So, while you don't have to, you definitely should remove everything from the case prior to cutting the drive cage out.