Stromer ST1 X Review - 5k
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- The Stromer ST1 X is a more affordable Stromer electric bike that still offers regenerative braking and speed pedelec performance with ~28 mph top speeds, available in high-step and mid-step frames. Beautifully integrated touch display and companion mobile app can be used to track the bike if lost or stolen, lighted button pad is easy to reach and use while riding but stays out of the way. Three beautiful colors, wonderfully hidden battery pack that can be upgraded to increase range, thru-axles on both wheels provide stiffness and strength, premium fenders and cargo rack. Heavier and still more expensive than some competing models, can be jarring at high speed without a suspension seat post upgrade, weaker motor than ST2 models.
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Thank you for this review. I really love your sense of detail, and in fact I am having some humoristic images om German speaking Swiss engineers in white coats viewing your review on a big screen in a meeting room and frantically making notes with pencils on notepads :-)
Funny to see how the perspective is different between the US and the Netherlands. You say "they are kinda made for the urban environment", while I have bought my Stromer ST1 (blue limited edition) for intercity travel :D Within Dutch cities the benefits of such a fast bike compared to a regular bike are almost negligible due to all the traffic lights and bicycle traffic during peak hours. So I have a normal bike for travel within my city.
Hetzelfde hier voor België, het zou niet werken in onze steden :-)
you probably dont care but if you're bored like me during the covid times then you can stream pretty much all the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. I've been binge watching with my gf for the last few months xD
@Emmett Bo Yea, I have been using Instaflixxer for months myself :D
Nice review. I recently found a "gently used" ST1x and still can't justify the pricei Too damn high!
had an opportunity to ride an ST1 and it's no joke. I couldn't justify the spend, but it's very well executed.
I have the ST2. Love it. Chris's comments about how it rides are spot on. I had a hard time justifying it as I bought it sight unseen with suggestions from Ravi who set a world record on the bike. It feels rock solid. Dropped the air in the tires as Ravi suggested and suggested here as well and it rides smooth as glass. Everyone that has one will agree that suspension for most roads is not necessary but the body float is a must and trivial addition at this price level. Battery lasts forever. The big selling points have to be build quality, tech, and the longest lasting batteries. They go forever and are very efficient. Compliments on this bike are endless. It speaks quality from everyone that sees it as it is a big step above. Super cool when you are watching the screen and the bike is automatically updated by Stromer from the cloud. Thanks Chris and Court. Good overview. What kind of helmet is Chris wearing.
That may be the Bern helmet with integrated brim? Chris has some great accessories at his shop. Thanks for sharing your experience with the ST2 Ralph! Glad you're enjoying it :)
Thanks Ralph! That helmet is actually the Giro Sutton -Chris
I'm almost sold on the ST1x, I may be visiting Chris in a month or so. I do want to upgrade for the seat shock and fork shock, wondering if these are Stromer only parts? I would like to upgrade the grips as well. I love the anti-theft software. I also need to determine if the rack can handle a double bag.
Also, can the battery be upgraded to a 983W on the ST1x ?
What distance do you get on the battery with using maximum assist ?
I am waiting for the ST1x and will it test too. Video is following. It s a very cool bike with much inspiration. I tested the ST2s too and driving is near st2 / st1x.
Nice! You do a really great job with your videos :)
What a great review! The only thing I would have appreciated is probably more comparison to the original ST1 rather than the ST2 because I can't afford the top of the line bike - but I know what it's like to ride an ST1 as I own one- so why do I want to upgrade to the ST1x??!
Good thing with the crank arm hitting the kickstand is when you got to ride the bike the crank arm will knock up the kick stand if you forgot to do it yourself, i like that feature and many bikes have it
I suspect the reason they didn't include water bottle braze-ons is that they would block the seat post, reducing the range of seat heights available with the stock seatpost. In the old days bikes had horizontal top tubes, so the seat tube was longer, so there was less torque transmitted to the frame, and more room for the water bottle braze-ons.
Very nice! Highly considering getting one!
Good Review as always, EBR.
I have a general question, relevant to this ebike, but also to many others:
Why do they mount their heavy duty rear racks offset so far to the rear?
Being heavy duty they can carry a pretty heavy load, and being so far back
the load is likely to affect the steering quite bit.
If they shifted the racks even 6-8" forward it would make a big difference.
I would prefer the load as far forward as I could get it for that reason, and
the fact that large saddle bags-which are designed to sit on a rack-will not
fit securely on so many of the bikes I have seen.
I suppose that load carrying panniers would require a reward mounting
position to avoid heel strikes from pedaling, but they could use a longer rack.
Hi, I heard that the new Stromer ST2 for 2018 is using tektro trp brakes instead of Magura. I am just wondering what your thoughts are on those brakes? Are they as good as the Magura? Thanks!
Very professional review Thank you
Hey, thanks JAN! I do my best... try to have fun and present all the details and stuff ;)
What is the difference between the "ST1 Sport" and the "ST1 X Sport" models? (Other than 1000s of dollars?)
Is there a way to put a shock fork on the font? I think that’s the only thing this bike is missing... and the bike rack I guess but that’s a easy fix.
Anyone know?i think I just found my electric bike for sure!
I have driven the St1x indoor on a test track, great bike for value.
The only disappointment is the cheap looking headlight.
Hi guys I had a e-bike this year that had a motor in back hub but i kept breaking spokes at least 4 spokes so i took the bike back and bought the Moustashe friday 27 2019 year.
does this bike get better mpg if you upgrade the battery?
Looking for a bike less than $3k with a 60 mile range, 28mph with throttle. Any suggestions?
They are awesome bikes!!!!
Wow so cool. I really like ST2 but it is expensive. This is a good new. I want the throttle though.
The torque figures seem very low for 500w motors, is this because they are hub mounted rather than center? I'm used to the 350w Bosch center drive delivering 60. Sorry, still learning this stuff :)
No need to apologize Dave! Yeah, gearless hub motors tend to offer less torque compared with geared hubs and mid-drive (which are usually geared and can leverage the cassette for optimizing torque vs. speed). At the core, all of these motor types use a gearless magnetic motor but the gearing translates a faster RPM to a slower but more powerful output. They tend to be lighter but also noisier and a bit more delicate. Here's a post I wrote a while back with pictures and stuff: electricbikereview.com/guides/difference-between-ebike-motors/
ElectricBikeReview.com Thanks Court 😃
at that price point how come its not mid drive hub?
4000 is cheaper ?
The ST2 is one amazing electric bike, however. Due to urban enviroments such as Chicago, New York LA, etc these bikes are made for the urban enviroment in Europe which have better streets that better maintained than the U.S. Stromer needs to add suspension on these electric bike, to make the rides a bit more comfortable for riders. I purchased my ST2 new for $4700! No taxes, etc. Locally, they wanted $6,999.99 so $2,200 cheaper, give or take... Still expensive but worth it, now I have to invest on a front suspension from Fox and I'll be set. I also have the bodyfloat seat suspension post. Which works very good too...
What dealer is selling the ST2 for $4700?
Crazy lennies ebikes, however. Due to a negative experience with them I wouldn't recommend them. If you wish to know more, PM me and I will gladly share.
Any chance of getting more info from you about your purchase? I was looking at the Trek Super Commuter+ 8S through Village Cycle Center ( villagecycle.com/product/trek-super-commuter-8s-277536-1.htm ) but I'm questioning whether I should give Trek another shot with e-bikes because my previous (Trek FX+) was such a dud. Did you try Kozy Cyclery? I have a few co-workers that now work at CFD and a few CFD guys that left to come out to the suburbs. I'm interested to find out how you like your ST2 after 5 months of use . . .
chgofirefighter what was your experience with crazy lennys?
I tried to pm you however it did not work, would you be able to share your experience?
If you buy one today,...what is a good price?
The Italians sure make a better looking unit !
You're comparing st1 x only with the ST2, but how does it compare with the ST1's powerwise? i've a ST1 limited edition and i have a carbon fiber fork, and the st1x aluminium like older St1's, thats wierd...
Yeah, I've spent a lot of time with the ST1 Limited and really like it. To me, the motor almost feels more responsive and zippy, I also appreciate the carbon fork...
I think there`s to much pressure in the back rim that`s why i broke 4 spokes,maybe the higher end bikes will be a lot stronger .
Is it possible to input codes into the new ST1's computer? I have the original ST1 Platinum and there's a code to allow throttle up to 21mph over the standard 10mph boost mode.
I like rear hub motor better than center drive motor.
Not too sure about the constant "connection" to the Stromer cloud "On the night of the 24th April were you in the vicinity of
Luigi's Fish'n' a chip restaurant?" ..... NO!......"Stromer says you were!"
I Have an ST1X and it was a great bike, but now it is worthless! My issue is that the charger has gone bad and there very little response from Stromer. The bike shop has done everything that they can, emailed, called, and nothing. It has already been a month and I'm being told that not are in stock and I'm going to have to wait at least another month. Who is going to cover the cost of the battery when that goes bad because of an insufficinet charge. Customer service sucks!
I love my one and only shirt.
Anyone notice the squealing brakes on the ST1X at 25:34? I have had a ST1S for a year. Since day one the brakes have squealed. 9 visits to the workshop and no success. They changed the pads for another make. They renewed the brake mechanisms completely. Then the Axle system broke and the pedals turned around uselessly. The worst was the back wheel suddenly started going around on its own without any pedalling at full speed of 30mph dragging me to the traffic on our main road here in Connecticut. Nearly killed myself trying to hoist this 60 pound bike up above the ground. I would never ever buy another Stromer... Terrible bikes fraught with problems known by the factory but hidden from the buyer....
Strange, I've never had this problem. It might be only with the ST1X and S series then since I have the original ST1.
40nm ?? bosh has 75nm Yamaha has 80nm brose has 90nm and ehere is a New bran out on mtb has 120nm
This is both the bar for motor noise reviewing, and motor noise from products. It’s ridiculous how much quieter this is than motors 7 years later. Electric motor whine is so grating on the ear.
I'm sorry, but that much money for rear hub motors? Idk what the market was like in 2017, but this would be criminally overpriced today. Everything else in this price range has a mid mount motor.
id rather buy the Haibike Urban plus at 1650.00.. much better bike for the money
Hey welcome to New York City.
Thanks Didi! I've visited once before, awesome place and I hope to come back later this year :D
German engineering haha, its a swiss bike!! Not quite the same country ;)
i still prefer a riese and müller delite gt! cheaper and full suspension.
I'm excited to check out R&M later this year, the double battery option is great and their bikes seem really well thought out and a great value
I have the same , and i would like to say that i wouldn't pay 5k for it
Stromer must think Ebike riders are simple in the head 9,500.00-4,900.00 comparable in the sense you get a few less batteries cheaper derailer robust fork very similar bike and save 5,000.00.this can make no sense no matter how you look at it.
The words of someone who has never ridden these top of the line machines :^)
Late 2023 review.... Do not buy a stromer Stx1. It needs serious shock absorbtion dampeners, like suspension saddle and front fork. Also the chain drive is not suited for the kind of speed it us going at. Stromer should have used moped parts instead of bike parts.
Wow, these bikes are too expensive!
10k could buy you a decent car.....
When I was 18 I bought a used car for 1500 paid less than less than 200 for insurance and gas when I drive..... Good luck taking that bike and 4 friends on a 200km road trip. LMAO!
BTW I own an electric bike and many other bikes. It will never replace a car sorry pal. Plus you risk having it stolen. I've never had a single car stolen but over 3 bikes. Use your head.
Pos? No offence but I have been to Europe and you guys pay more than 2 buks per litre of gas. Yah in Europe 1500 will get you a shit car. Hell even 10K would get you a shit car LMAO!!
I aint from Europe and the car I bought for 1500 was fully loaded and awesome! There are a lot of rich people with nice cars and they sell dirt cheap. That was a long time ago and 10K for a bike is just crazy. You cant go anywhere far on that bike. Cars or even motorcycles can fill up on gas and go long trips.
You could buy a 5K car and a 3K Ebike and you would get way more value. But if you are spending 10K on an Ebike I would almost guarantee you already have a car.
My comment was 10k can buy you a decent car. Not that it's a shit bike or waste of money. You just have to put it in perspective when spending this kind of money.
@Jordan Smith what if you don't have four friends? QED
1:00. He's said $49.99😂
steven medefindt umm. No. U must be foreign.
I have a Stromer st1 - rode it for two summers, at 1200 miles the motor burnt up (or motor controller - its all located in the wheel unit). I was 1 month out of warranty... after repeated attempts to contact Stromer, finally got ahold of the warranty dept. They just sort of laughed and said - "yeah, sorry man nothing we can do for you." So I bought a $4000 bicycle that needs an $1100 part after 1200 miles... these bikes are gimmicky, unreliable and Stromer service is absolutely horrible to work with. Go with Yamaha or Bosch - Stromer won't be around long. Oh - and the shop I took it two had two st1's on the floor (poor people trying to get rid of them on consignment).
Way overpriced looking at the competition.. definately not worth it