The idea that Christ died to lower the standards of God's law is the preaching of all evangelicals, Pentecostals and others, yet they forget that what landed Christ on the cross was Man's disobedience to God's law in the first place, Sabbath is as old as the creation of the world itself in Genesis 2:1-3
@StPeter-zh1rk The gentiles were not commanded to what? You sure about that? So you haven't read Isaiah 56. Let me show you: Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed. Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil. Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the >>>> stranger >>> Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
@StPeter-zh1rk Oh try again? SURE! I knew you'd say that, here is the reverse trap: (I loved your reaction ngl) The new covenant, surprise surprise (Romans 11:24) is exactly like Isaiah 56. There is no trap, just confusion from your mind. Notice that you join Israel and become the "Spiritual" Israel, in fact right in Romans Chapter 2:28-29 explains that those who have accepted the Gospel became Jew! You've set up a trap for yourself when trying to think dis was trap. The Promise the Lord made was with Abraham, by promise, I mean, a Covenant. Check this out: "Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. " When you go to the context (Context is King) you'll understand to whom Paul is speaking. It's a declaration: That same Covenant with Israel is also with the Gentiles. But once again, it's nothing new. See how those verses converse with each other? Oh. Also, I will allow myself to fall on another "trap". Same book, same prophet: Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Soooooo... the verse here is very, very, VERY clear in stating "new Heaven and new Earth". How are you going to circumvent this prophecy? Are we still on this new "heaven and earth?" When does it come? Let the bible speak: Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. None of those prophecies have been fulfilled, yet the prophet is clear in declaring that the Sabbath ALL the Universe will Gather to Worship God. Not only the Sabbath but the new Moon (Tree of Life, but that is a subject for another day.) It was a very nice try, but not today bro.
@@MajorGari God gave the Sabbath to national Israel as a sign of their Old Covenant relationship, "It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever" (Ex. 31:13, 17). At the same time God commanded Israel not to share their covenant and Sabbath with other nations (Ex. 23:32; Deut. 7:1-6). This is why Jesus did not command the non Israelites whom he healed to observe the Sabbath and the rest of the Law. This is also why the Jewish Christians at the first church council did not require Gentile Christians to observe the Law (Acts 15:1-20; 21:18-28). Therefore, the seventh day weekly Sabbath was not given to all mankind (Ex. 19:5, 6; 20:2; 31:13 - 18; Deut. 5:12 -15).
The fact that the poor saints in Jerusalem were still worshipping on the Sabbath at the time of this offering does violence to any attempt to make Sunday the new day of worship. Even after the offering there is no mention of these poor saints worshipping corporately on the first day of the week. If taking up offerings on any day makes that day a new day of worship, then we are going to be all over the place chasing down worship days. What happens now with all of the other excuses that we hear for Sunday worship such as ,Jesus is my Sabbath and we can choose any day for our Sabbath! If the reasons or (excuses) are true, taking up an offering by the church officials on the first day of the week just would not matter. Was Jesus their Sabbath when this offering was taken up and was it true that any and every day could be the Sabbath when that coin clanked into the offering plate or hit the bottom of the charity bag?
@StPeter-zh1rk Well in all those texts you mentioned, you forgot Heb.8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:” And don't say that was for the nation of Israel. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28 And why is it you folks always bring EGW ? She has nothing to do with making the Sabbath, but unlike the monks and nuns you mentioned, her writings follow the Bible. That is an excuse on your part for not looking at Biblical facts. Also remember the Sabbath was instituted at Creation not Sinai. The Lord had the Israelites keeping the Sabbath for over a month before Sinai, remember the miricale of mana ?
@StPeter-zh1rk So you pit the Bible against it self, that's what most people do that argue with what the Scriptures say, remember your not arguing with me, you argue with God. Looks like you also fail to read the Bible. Matt.23:37-39 says O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." The Jewish nation as a whole are no longer Gods choosen people, individual Jews have the opportunity for salvation, but they like Gentiles are now a part of the seed of Abraham. And no we do not get our doctrines from EGW, as you are fond of saying "what an ignorant statement you make". All of our doctrines are Biblical. When you pit Scripture against Scripture, there is no discussion possible with you. You have your self a great day.
@StPeter-zh1rk StPerer, God DID have a Sabbath commandment for MANKIND BEFORE giving the 10 commandments at Mt. Sinai. In fact, if you had kept reading Exodus 16, you would have seen it. LOL!...(SEE EXODUS 16:27-30)..... 27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather (Manna), but they found none. 28 And the Lord said to Moses, “How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws? 29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.” 30 So the people rested on the seventh day. So, now you must ask yourself what did God mean in Verse 28 when He said the people were refusing to keep His Commandments and Laws??? What commandments and laws was He talking about? He hadn't given them the laws He wrote at Mt, Sinai yet. So he must have been talking about commandments and laws He ALREADY HAD IN PLACE BEFORE THEN for ALL OF MANKIND, which INCLUDED THE 7TH DAY SABBATH!!! The problem was, the WHOLE WORLD had forgotten those commandments of God, including the Israelites He delivered from Egypt, so He had to remind them of His laws, especially if they were going to be His chosen people moving forward..... Think about it for a minute...If God did not have ANY LAWS or commandments for ALL OF MANKIND to live by BEFORE Mt. Sinai, then He could not have accused anyone on Earth of sin, or held anyone on Earth accountable for sin, because there would have been no law to go by... That's a complete fantasy to believe there was no law or commandments for MANKIND before Sinai. You don't think people on Earth knew it was WRONG to steal, lie, murder, or commit adultery BEFORE Mt. Sinai? That doesn't make sense, and you know it.
On June 22nd I celebrated the sabbath out in the mountains. Me and my friend we celebrated church By reading the book "The ministry of healing" By Ellen G. White and reading chapter three was absolutely wonderful. The title of chapter three is named "With Nature and With God". I was Reading this chapter out loud and the birds started singing as if to be rejoicing when we were Reading about god's beauty and how awesome. God is when you're just surrounded by nature and then also Jesus when he would also commune out in the wilderness, out in nature by himself just him and His father conversing too one another. It's so beautiful, it's harmony in its fullest.
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
0:00 - Intro 2:23 - Today's Topic 9:00 - Presentation on 1 Corinthians 16:1-5 12:57 - Line Upon Line Studying 18:16 - Understanding 1 Corinthians 16:1-5 37:35 - Did Jesus make Sunday holy when He rose? 42:23 - Does Hebrews 4:8 Support Sunday Observance? 1:10:20 - Guest 1 - Does Galatians teach that Sabbath is a work of the Law? 1:28:59 - Does Acts 20:7 support Sunday Observance? 1:34:12 - Summary of 1 Corinthians 16 1:35:24 - Is there a such thing as a Christian Atheist? 1:36:45 - Question about the Scapegoat 1:37:45 - The Sabbath is about rest not work 1:38:21 - Paul became all things to all men 1:40:28 - ADL offers training 1:43:07 - Question about the Scapegoat 1:46:03 - ADL in Spanish? 1:47:24 - Friday night Bible study? 1:48:44 - Guest 2 - Example of how Paul became under the law 1:51:28 - Is it wrong hide your religion? 1:58:37 - Was Jesus referring to the Gates of Jerusalem in Matthew 24|20? 2:04:31 - Guest 3 - Does ADL support Last Generation Theology (LGT)? 2:12:02 - Can you pass the Investigative Judgement with sin? 2:30:59 - Does the Great Controversy teach that we can be sinless and perfect? 2:37:17 - Shall we fear the Judgement? 2:56:16 - Closing Thoughts/ Announcements
To all who are trying to add validity to the practice of the early church fathers worshipping on the first day of the week as an example of Christian worship as an alternative or replacement for the Seventh-day Sabbath, a very practical question comes to mind and that is, who's example were they themselves following. There has to be an example or command given by God that pre-dated them. There is a clear command to worship and rest on the 7th day of the week, and no matter how anyone tries to relegate the Sabbath as only for the Jews, there is no other command from God for any other group of people period. The old and New Covenants were made to the "House of Israel" and it is so funny how the Sabbath was only for the Jews in the old covenant but somehow the "New Covenant" which was also made for the "House of Israel" Sunday Christians are conveniently using it to try and prop up a day of worship that has no footing whatsoever in scripture. If there is no scripture to support Sunday worship in the Bible, it (Sunday) has got to fall into one of two categories, The Commandments of God or the Commandments of Men, there is no middle ground here. We know which day was commanded and we are about to see which day will be demanded!
Calvin Norton: In Genesis, the 7th day is not confined in terms of evening and morning, as the other days. This day was fulfilled in Jesus, who was the example to the Apostles. You cannot find, anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus keeps the Sabbath and goes to the Synagogue on the Sabbath day, because He Himself is the Sabbath Day. His Sabbath came to His disciples on the first day of the week and broke bread. This was the first corporate worship of the early Church. The Church Father's, since 70ad wrote about this. How is it that you believe in EGW writings 1800 years after Jesus walked this Earth, and you don't believe the Early Church Father's, who knew the Apostles personally, and learned from them?
@@jfarrell2772we have several texts stating Jesus went to the synagogue on the Sabbath Day, the foremost account being Luke 4:16-21. No where does He say “do not keep the sabbath because I am your sabbath.” Rather He says “I am the Lord of the Sabbath and it is made for man” (Mark 2:27), not just for Jews or apostles. It points us to Jesus as creator and God and worthy of our worship. So by definition Sabbath was created to “Remember” Jesus’ creative power and therefore cannot be changed. We see new believers breaking bread daily, and one account of Paul preaching “after the sabbath” on a Saturday night all night long, which by Bible reckoning is the first day of the week. Why? Because he was leaving the area for an extended period of time. It was a farewell speech. He spent the daylight hours of the first day (Sunday) traveling, so by his very actions he was not treating the day as a hallowed day. Not a single verse says sanctity of sabbath was transferred. In fact any account of sabbath worship, by believing Jew or believing gentile was done on the 7th day. No other day. Keeping Sunday is simply keeping the tradition of man which Jesus said is vanity (Matt 15:9).
@@Pacmanflatts23 why does it need to say there are “10”? It does not even say that in the OT. But we can count them in Exodus 20 and there are 10. It’s an assumed understanding that all Jews knew there were 10 commandments in the NT as the only scripture they had was the OT. We see all 10 of them mentioned and practiced in the NT. read Jesus discussion with the rich young ruler - particularly Matt 19:17. Read James 2 - the law is what we are judged by. Roman’s 13:8-10; 1 Cor 5:9-11; 1 Cor 6:9-11; 1 Cor 7:19; 1 Cor 10:14; Gal 5:19-21; Eph 4:20-30; Eph 5:3; Eph 6:1-3; Col 3:20; Hebrews 4:9; Rev 12:17; Rev 14:12; Revelation 22:14
@@juligraham7319 There are No texts saying that Jesus went to the Synagogue or kept the 7th day Sabbath, AFTER His resurrection. Because He fulfilled that fourth Commandment on the cross. When He rose from the dead, He became our Sabbath rest. But you still say Saturn's day is your Sabbath
@StPeter-zh1rk so God changed the law after Jesus’ death, but He refused to do it before Jesus had to suffer and die? Can you let me know the point of that? Just a few verses that God does not change. He is a sure rock of truth. Mal 3:6 for I am the Lord, I change not. Psalms 119:44 So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever. Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Psalms 33:11 The counsel of the Lord standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations. Psalms 89:34 My covenant will I not break, NOR ALTER the thing that is GONE OUT OF MY LIPS. Exodus 20:1 And GOD SPOKE ALL THESE WORDS saying: (the 10 commandments) Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. Eccl 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. What were the scriptures Jesus was referring to? The Old Testament, they all speak of Him. Every scripture quoted in the NT is from the OT. So why do Christians refuse to search the OT? But at any rate Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews, 13:8, James 1:717-18 show us God just does not change. So What He wrote and spoke does not change. Those would include the 10 commandments. We also see the NT gentiles believers only came to the synagogue on the 7th day, as did Jesus, who also mentioned the sabbath as being an issue in the destruction of Jerusalem 40 years in the future (Luke 4:16, Luke 16:7, Matt 5:27-19, Matt 24:20) and Paul (Acts 23:24, 42-44, Acts 16:11-13, Acts 17:1-4, Acts 18:1-4, Acts 20:27. And Hebrews 4:9 says we keep it because God did.
The thing of it is the scriptures are so plain on this People would have to be denied in the bible to follow anything else Jesus said if you love me.Keep my command
Jesus commandments are not the Ten Commandments. Learn the Biblical covenant concept first if you want to correctly understand and interpret the Bible.
@@juligraham7319 No, the Ten Commandments belongs to the Old covenant. It was given to Moses for the Israelites at Mount Sinai. The Lord Jesus instituted the New Covenant. He has His own commandments and it is more than 10. It is all over the New Testament pages.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd go for it friend. Destroy the 10 commandments which Jesus and all apostles tell us to keep and see where that leads us…to lawlessness, pain and death…oh yeah…the very definition of sin in 1 John 3:4.
Arthur and Teresa Beem "There is no New Testament text that tells us to keep any day. Those texts are not telling us to keep any day." "It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath."
@StPeter-zh1rk If the Sabbath was only for Israel, then ill continue to follow your logic.. Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a 👉new covenant with the house of Israel👈 , and with the house of Judah: Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. -So we cant be apart of the new covenant either, since the New covenant is only for the house of Israel...
@StPeter-zh1rk some reason i couldn't reply on the other comment so ill do so here... All those verses say SABBATH and THE LORD. i was simply making the link between them both like i stated in my 2 previous comments "These verses clearly show the link between The Lord and the Sabbath." "I can prove Biblically without EGW that the Sabbath indeed can be called the Lords day." i know that the Lords day in Rev 1:10 is speaking about the day of his coming as we read in the 2 previous verses... Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Now you've made another assumption. When SDAs find a problem in verses or doctrine, we don't refer to EGW but apply these 5 key Bible verses... Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. These are the verses that SDA founders used to fully study the Bible, they would compare scriptures on the same point to find truth. Every single doctrine we have can all be proved in the Bible unlike you said, thats why we can claim Sola Scriptura. Now in regard to your Historical timeline and your logic that information closer to Jesus being more accurate. Let’s put that into play Biblically.. Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called 👉Christians first in Antioch.👈 The disciples were first called CHRISTIANS in ANTIOCH. So what day were the keeping? Acts13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to 👉Antioch👈 in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the 👉sabbath day👈, and sat down. Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an 👉holy convocation;👈 Now these verses clearly show them keeping the Sabbath in Antioch and not Sunday. Lev23:3 Says the Sabbath is also a day of Holy Convocation which simply means Assembly. So, applying your logic, the closest people to Jesus historically who were called the first Christians actually kept Sabbath and not the First day. So there goes your whole stance on timelines...
@StPeter-zh1rk WRONG AGAIN StPeter..... READ EXODUS 16:27-30..... What "commandments and laws" was God talking about in THOSE VERSES SPECIFICALLY?... CAN YOU ANSWER THAT???...Also, notice the words (commandmentS and lawS) are PLURAL and NOT SINGULAR, meaning that the 7th day Sabbath was a part of a SET of commandments and laws that were ALREADY established BEFORE the time He asked Moses the question in Exodus 16!!! That's why God asked Moses the question in such a FRUSTRATED tone, because the laws and commands that God expected ALL OF HUMANITY to observe, INCLUDING THE 7TH DAY SABBATH, were being DISOBEYED by EVERYONE! The events of Exodus 16 were BEFORE Mt. Sinai, and BEFORE he made the covenant with Israel.
@StPeter-zh1rk WRONG AGAIN StPeter..... READ EXODUS 16:27-30..... What "commandments and laws" was God talking about in THOSE VERSES SPECIFICALLY?... CAN YOU ANSWER THAT???...Also, notice the words (commandmentS and lawS) are PLURAL and NOT SINGULAR, meaning that the 7th day Sabbath was a part of a SET of commandments and laws that were ALREADY established BEFORE the time He asked Moses the question in Exodus 16!!! That's why God asked Moses the question in such a FRUSTRATED tone, because the laws and commands that God expected ALL OF HUMANITY to observe, INCLUDING THE 7TH DAY SABBATH, were being DISOBEYED by EVERYONE! The events of Exodus 16 were BEFORE Mt. Sinai, and BEFORE he made the covenant with Israel.
Sunday Worship cannot be rescued from it's fate in Revelation 13 and 14. How many people are worshipping on Sunday in light of these text? The quantitative outcome and answer to this question is damning and should be sobering!!
@StPeter-zh1rk That's the problem. You have to go outside of the bible to connect the lords day to Sunday. No single verse inside the bible says the lords day is Sunday.
@StPeter-zh1rk Now your making assumptions brother, when did i say that i disrespect the church fathers? no where.. but here you are accusing me. Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. If what the church fathers say, agree with the Bible then their lies no contradiction. But if they make statements that are no where to be found in the Bible then that's where the problem lies as Isaiah 8:20 states. Now lets carry on with my logic you said was flawed, Here is the difference, I can prove Biblically without EGW that the Sabbath indeed can be called the Lords day. But can you prove that Sunday is the Lords day Biblically without the Church Fathers?
@StPeter-zh1rk Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Biblically, Gentile believers are grafted in and become Jews. I'm using ideas that belong in the Law and Testimony to support my stance. But like i asked you before which you ignored, can you prove Sunday is the Lords day biblically? Is it appropriate of you to use information outside of the Bible and not according to the Law and testimony to support your stance?
@StPeter-zh1rk Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is 👉Lord also of the sabbath. 👈 Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the 👉sabbath of the LORD thy God👈... Lev23:3 ....it is the 👉sabbath of the LORD👈in all your dwellings. Deu 5:14 But the 👉seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:👈 Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the 👉sabbath👈, from doing thy pleasure on 👉my holy day;👈 These verses clearly show the link between The Lord and the Sabbath. Now can you Biblically provide a link between The Lord and Sunday?
Why would there be a change in the sabbath?But not a change in the other 9.Don't make sense if people are being dishonest with themselves and the bible
@StPeter-zh1rk Totally agree with you. Failure to understand the fundamental difference between the Old and the New covenants are the most common causes of biblical misinterpretation and theological errors in Christianity today.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd There was NO COVENANT to even consider when GOD established the 7th Day Sabbath AT CREATION (See Genesis 2:2-3, Mark 2:27-28) because there was NO SIN. God originally intended for the WHOLE WORLD to observe His 7th day Sabbath as a memorial of His creation, and as a way to acknowledge and WORSHIP Him as the CREATOR of ALL THINGS (See Exodus 20:8-11 and Revelation 14:7). So talking about covenants, with regard to the Sabbath, is worthless, futile, and BIBLICALLY DISHONEST. Also, attempting to isolate the Sabbath command from the other 9 commandments, with respect to how Christians should apply them to their lives, is spiritually DANGEROUS. It is a SIN to disregard or replace ANY of God's commandments. (Matthew 5:17-19, Deuteronomy 4:2,; John 14:15, 14:21, and 14:24; 1 John 2:3-4, Revelation 22:18-19)
@@stax2210 Where is your biblical support saying that Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath? The Sabbath day in the Genesis creation account was Adam's 1st day on earth. There was no command at all from God to Adam and Eve to keep the seventh day sabbath. No command to the whole world about the sabbath can be read in any pages of the Bible. In context Mark 2 is talking about Jewish people (mankind), not the whole mankind. The God of the Bible is not the source of confusion and double standards. He gave the seventh day sabbath to the Israelites as the SIGN of the Covenant between God and them. No way He is going to turn around and give it to the whole world or if it was meant for the whole world there is no way He is going to give it to the Israelites only. Some Bible scholars believe that there are Edenic and Adamic covenant in the pages of Genesis although not explicitly stated. But one thing is clear, God is a Covenant- Making God and a Covenant- Keeping God as expressed with Noah (Genesis 6:18), Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3, 15:18).
@@stax2210 Give me your Biblical evidence from the Book of Genesis commanding the whole world to keep the seventh day sabbath. Genesis creation account was written by Moses the Mediator of the Old Covenant given at Mount Sinai. Also show me any New Testament verses commanding Believers of the Lord Jesus Christ to keep the seventh day sabbath and any New Testament passages showing that sabbath breaking as a sin.
Your legalistic outward work is dead but the work through the heart motivated by love is what being referred here. Obviously you don't know the difference. 😂
@@flexx7611 1 John 4:19 We love because God first loved us. 20 If we say we love God, but hate our brothers and sisters, we are liars. For people cannot love God, whom they have not seen, if they do not love their brothers and sisters, whom they have seen. 12
@@flexx7611James seems to contradict Romans but through study and prayer I've come to realize that James is defining "works" as Obedience. James is saying Faith without obedience is dead. A great example of this is when God asked Abraham to offer his the son he loved as a sacrifice and Abraham obeyed, therefore his faith was displayed. And in Romans, Paul doesn't mention "works" but he would probably define it as self-justification. That is, seeking to be justified through your merit of keeping the commandments. Even Paul says to obey the commandments, as someone that keeps the Sabbath, I do it, not to justify myself but because I've acknowledged God as my creator, supreme ruler and savior.It's His Sabbath and he REQUIRES me to observe it, and the least I can do is obey. It's not about Christians and Jews, it's about those who have a covenant with God. In that agreement God promises he will be my God and I will be among his people if I obey his commandments. If you do not obey his commandments you're not part takers of his covenant.
As the Catholic Church says " you can read the bible from genises to revelation and you will not find one verse that says sunday is the Sabbath of GOD "
Isaiah 56:6-7 “Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants- Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant- Even them I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices Will be accepted on My altar; For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.” Hebrews 4:9, So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God 😉
@@bible_heavyweights in my opinion and I dont think it's biblical There will be other people from all religions in heaven. People who have never heard of JESUS or those who have never read a verse from the bible . GODS a fair GOD . A good Muslim Hindu Seik etc .
@FIJIApologist-ab1cd 4520. sabbatismos ► Strong's Concordance sabbatismos: a sabbath rest Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine Transliteration: sabbatismos Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos') Definition: a sabbath rest Usage: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest. Can it be any more clear ? 😎
@@berylcunningham1328 The writer of Hebrews is saying that if entering rest merely meant entering Canaan under Joshua, then we would not have had David repeating the call to enter centuries later. He is referring to Psalm 95:11 in Hebrews 4:7-8. So the writer concludes in verse 9 that there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. The concept the writer is explaining is that the word "rest" in the Bible is a word God uses to describe entering into salvation by faith, which leads to our glory in God's presence. That rest is God's rest. It's a rest He makes available. It's a rest we enter by faith. When we have faith in His promises, we enter His rest, and since that rest is the Lord's rest, it remains for ever. God has been resting from all His creation work since the seventh day sabbath in the creation account of the Book of Genesis. Likewise, we will enjoy that perpetual rest by our faith. We do not work our way to salvation; we rest in the work God did on our behalf through Jesus Christ. As the writer says in verse 10, the one who has entered the Lord's rest is the one who has rested from his works, just as God rested from His works. The day you receive Christ as your Savior, you cease from trying to attain your own eternal rest.
@@berylcunningham1328 Matthew 11:28 - 30 tells us that our rest is found in Jesus. We rest in what he has done for us, his yoke is easy. He gives us the grace of God that is found through believing and trusting in him and being filled by his spirit. We are not saved by our works or by law keeping. That is a yoke that does not give us the rest of Jesus. In Acts 15:10 Peter tells us that the yoke of the law is not the same as the yoke of Christ
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God asked us to remember Him, our Creator, and to rest on the Sabbath. It's akin to celebrating a birthday. While you can celebrate every day, the true significance lies in commemorating the actual birth date, surrounded by friends and family on that special occasion. In the same way, God desires us to honor the Sabbath. So, why not give Him the reverence He deserves?
Luke 1:74-75 KJV That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, [75] In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
@StPeter-zh1rk Actually SHABBAT first occurs as the verb for God's rest in Genesis 2. וַיִּשְׁבֹּת֙ ... שָׁבַת֙ A "rest" takes place when one "rests." The "sabbath" took place when God "rested."
@StPeter-zh1rk First, it is good that you recognize that the Scriptures declare that acknowledging the Sabbath, which God blessed and sanctified at the creation--for man (Mark 2:27)--was made a covenant for His people, the house of Israel. Notice the reason that it is a sign between God and Israel--"FOR [because] in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." It is because they recognize the true Creator God. HOWEVER, when sons of the stranger (Gentiles) ACKNOWLEDGED the Creator God by entering covenant with Him, they were expected to observe God's day of rest. "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant" (Isa. 56:6). If you don't acknowledge the true Creator God, you don't have to keep the Sabbath. But, if you do, "There it is the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath" (Heb. 4:11, Syriac). I hope you know enough about the actual meaning of sabbatismos not to try to argue against the use of Hebrews 4:11 here. The Syriac uses the verb "to keep the Sabbath." The Greek word "sabbatismos" is used repeatedly in the first centuries to describe those who keep the seventh-day Sabbath. For documentation, Google "Sabbatismos in Hebrews (Updated May 24, 2023)"
@StPeter-zh1rk YES. Exod 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: FOR [Heb. see below] in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed. Genesis 2:3 HEB: וַיְקַדֵּ֖שׁ אֹת֑וֹ כִּ֣י ב֤וֹ שָׁבַת֙ NAS: and sanctified it, BECAUSE in it He rested KJV: and sanctified it: BECAUSE that in it he had rested
Luke 20:1-2 KJV And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders, [2] And spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority?
@StPeter-zh1rkMark 2:27 “And he said unto them,”The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. Meaning that the Sabbath is for the benefit of all mankind. The Jews didn’t sanctify the sabbath, God did. We are to keep it holy.
@StPeter-zh1rkthe 10 commandments were already commanded and Jesus upheld them and magnified them according to the sermon on the Mount. He kept them perfectly because we are told He never sinned. He was perfect. Jesus died because they are UNCHANGEABLE. if they were able to change, what kind of Heavenly Father would allow Jesus to suffer and die for our sin (1 John 3:4) if He could have simply abolished the law to save Jesus from unnecessary pain and death?
@StPeter-zh1rk friend. Jesus kept the Sabbath because he was a man. And He was obedient to God’s law. The sabbath of all commandments we can be certain was created on the 7th day of creations and there were no Jews in site. Read Mark 2:27- sabbath was made for man, not for Jew. If you believe you can break only the 4th commandment and you are okay, read James 2. You break one you break them all. Aka you are a law breaker. 1 John 3:4.
@StPeter-zh1rk The Sabbath was instituted by God at the end of creation week when he sanctified it and made it holy. No Jews then. Genesis 2:2-3, And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. God set the Sabbath as an example for humanity to follow - not a certain group of people. The sabbath is a gift of rest. The New Covenant in the NT spoken of in Hebrews 8 restores us to God’s original plan., “I will put my laws in their mind and write them in their hearts.” This is how God’s laws were instilled in Adam and Eve. Because of sin each generation began to follow the laws and rituals and gods of heathen nation and were not keeping God’s laws. They broke the covenant. Sin led Israel into captivity. When they came out of captivity, God had to write his laws on tables of stone with his finger to show they were permanent. They had forgotten the laws - they weren’t written in their heart. The fourth commandment starts with “Remember the sabbath day”. Exodus 20:11 points back to creation, “For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day, wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.” In the NT there was never a dispute about the Sabbath. Early Christians kept the Sabbath. Acts 13:42 “And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.” Acts 13:44 “And the next Sabbath day came almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.” Gentiles heard the truth and became Christians and they worshipped on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was not exclusive to Jews. The Jewish nation didn’t even acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah. God wanted the gospel to go out to all the world so that everyone could hear the message and observe the Sabbath. Sabbath will be observed in eternity Isaiah 66:22-23 shows that the Sabbath will be kept by the redeemed in the new earth. “For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make shall remain before Me, says the Lord, so shall your offspring and your name remain. From new moon to new moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before Me, declares the Lord” (Isaiah 66:22-23, ESV). This will occur after sin and sinners have been destroyed and the earth has been restored by God. It says “all flesh” will come together to worship God on the Sabbath. That doesn’t sound like the Sabbath is exclusive to Jews or is of no importance. John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments. All commandments, including the fourth. You don’t get to pick and choose the ones you want to keep.
If someone go to church on Sunday instead of Saturday to worship,that doesn't say that person keep sunday holiday.that day the person did choose to go out and fellowship with others,that person still worship God and also take out the time to reflect on the most high.,I don't think it's is wrong ,which you seems like and explained.Human should worship every day reflect on Jesus this will reminds me can sin and we human. It's hard when keeping Saturday for worshipping only for most It's not a sin to worship on Sunday, worshipping any day it's a reminder Jesus is there to help us when we are fallen and flatter and not to stay there but to just get up and move on .Jesus is my Sabbath.
Many will say all day seems alike. To him his is own beliefs. It was read in the bible God bless the seventh day and hallowed it .But for me most time I rest from my work if I have given that day Saturday, I rest at home, if there is something to do on that day I go and get it done .
@@annmarienembhard6936Heb 4:5-10 1 Cor 1:4-6 The message about Christ has become so firmly established in you, 7 that you have not failed to receive a single blessing, as you wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed 8-9 1 Cor 3:11 For GOD has already placed Jesus Christ as the one and only foundation, and no other foundation can be LAID.
God asked us to remember Him, our Creator, and to rest on the Sabbath. It's akin to celebrating a birthday. While you can celebrate every day, the true significance lies in commemorating the actual birth date, surrounded by friends and family on that special occasion. In the same way, God desires us to honor the Sabbath. So, why not give Him the reverence He deserves?
@@maryc8tubeThe Resurrection 28:1-10 Mk 16:1-10 Lk 1:-12 Jn 20:1-10. Heb 4:3-6 Those who first heard the Good News did NOT receive that REST, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE 7 This is shown by the fact God sets another day, which is called " TODAY " 8 If Joshua had given the people the rest that God had promised, God would not have spoken later about another day. 10 For those who receive that rest which God promised will rest from their own work, just as God rested from his. Heb 8:9-13 By speaking of a new covenant, God has made the first one OLD, and anything that becomes OLD and worn out will soon DISAPPEAR. Romans 10:4 For CHRIST has brought the LAW to an END, so that everyone who believes is put right with GOD 12:19 Never take revenge, my friends, but instead let God's do it. For the scripture says, "I will take revenge, I will pay back, says the LORD.
Leviticus 23 specifically talks about sacred assembly on the first day of the week. One of which is the feast of the first fruits which was fulfilled by the resurrection of Jesus
That happened once per year in the Old Testament. It met its fulfillment when Jesus resurrected. Are you suggesting that once a year God's people should still keep the Firstfruits on a Sunday in Spring?
@@thatnicekid04 It was the greatest event in Human history - Jesus was the first fruits of the resurrection and that is the whole gospel 1 Corinthians 15 makes this clear. Also not everyone who worships the risen Lord on Sunday believe and keep that day as a 'Sabbath' Tell me where does the Bible command gentile Christians to keep Sabbath?
@@Searcher-z5e The first day/Sunday is not blessed, sanctified, nor did God rest on it. The resurrection day is not blessed, sanctified, nor did God rest on it. Sunday is a regular common working day like days 2-6. There is literally nothing special about the first day of the week (Sunday) at all or any other day of the week except the seventh day, the Sabbath in the Bible.
@@NateH1984 The resurrection is what Christians remember and celebrate. But your right - it does not matter what day we worship the risen Christ on. But..Where does the NT tell Gentile Christians to keep Sabbath?
In Both Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:2 the sunday worshippers use these to claim the disciples worshiped on Sunday." On the first day of the week...." In Both verses the word "day" is italicized meaning it is not in the original manuscripts but added by the translators. The word "Week" is Sabbaton(Sabbath ) in the greek. Therefore the Verse should be translated " On the first of Weeks" . This is refering to the Feast of Weeks in Leviticus 23. It is the counting of seven weeks starting on the first Sabbath after Passover to determine when the feast of Shavuot occurs. 7 x 7=49 + 1 day is Pentecost. These verses hav nothing to do with Sunday worship. Also look at the surrounding verses for context
The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week according to the calendar the Israelites used. Scripture never says it was anything other than that. These facts still don't justify becoming SDA.
Luke 19:46-48 KJV Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves. [47] And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him, [48] And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.
Curious and intelligent folks will have a “show me” attitude to most things especially GOD. I wonder if some people don’t respect that a woman can be a prophet? I don’t know why EGW is a problem!
The Seventh day is not confined in terms of evening and morning as the other days...? How was this unconfined day nailed to the cross? And if we started out with an unconfined day in creation, how did we end up with a confined day on Sunday. God happened to rest on this so called unconfined day and he blessed and sanctified it. If this day the Sabbath, and lets be clear was actually unconfined, what need or use would the Jews have for it, they would not be able to observe a day that could not be found. I said in another place that no one knows when or where the Sabbath is until its time to nail it to the cross or say that it was only for the Jews! If as claimed, the Sabbath is unconfined at creation and the New Testament is silent concerning it's observance, then Sunday worship would have to be on life support because it would be dealt a double death blow in both testaments. There is no credible evidence for Sunday worship in any book, chapter or verse in God's Holy word. Jesus is your Sabbath! What happened to Sunday? Why not say that Jesus is your Sunday?
Calvin Norton: Genesis does NOT say, "so the evening and morning were the 7th day" It says that for all the other 6 days. That's what I meant. The Sabbath is not about the 24 hour period. It's about Jesus. You don't make sense, saying saying, "Jesus is my Sunday". Sunday is just a day, like Saturday is just a day. You wouldn't say, Jesus is my Saturday. Sabbath, however, means rest. Jesus is my rest. My REST (SABBATH) is found in Jesus. You however find your Sabbath in Saturday, Not Jesus. Saturnsday is your Sabbath and your Sabbath is Saturnsday. Don't you get it? SDAs worship the Day. We worship Jesus
@@jfarrell2772 Why is Sunday so important to you if Jesus is your Sabbath. You are the one that brought up the church fathers and them meeting on the first day of the week. There was evidently some significance to you mentioning that as if to say that Sunday was now taking the place of the Sabbath as far as a day of worship is concerned. I am just asking you to be consistent with your claims. Did the church fathers find somehow Sunday to be Holy. That was important to you in one of your previous messages. Now I am hearing , it's not really a day to keep but it is Jesus who is your Sabbath. Sunday seems now to be taking a back seat to at least the Sabbath terminology. Anyway I accept what you believe as significantly important to you. Thanks for your comments!
@@Pacmanflatts23 Yes, they don't believe in eternal HELL. I used to be a brainwashed SDA, trapped in the chains of that evil fallen angel that is the overseer of that church. I come on these channels and suffer persecution because I actually care about them and hope at least one SDA out there will open their eyes and escape Hell and escape the grips of the evil spirit
@@calvinmcnorton7466 I never placed importance on Sunday. It just happened that Jesus Rose from the grave on Sunday. He broke Bread with His disciples on Sunday. He was in the midst of His disciples on Sunday, Their eyes were opened "in the breaking of bread", as it says in Luke, on Sunday. The Disciples, as well as all others fell down to worship Him on Sunday. It just so happens that all these things occurred on Sunday. So, from thenceforth, The Early Church, continued in the fellowship and breaking of bread on Sundays. Not because of the day, but because of Jesus. Jesus never appeared in the Synagogue on the Sabbath, after His resurrection, nor is there reference of Him keeping the Saturday Sabbath after His resurrection. Furthermore, Jesus IS THE SABBATH. You reference Genesis when God said IT IS FINISHED, after He created the other six days, then He Hallowed, blessed and sanctified the 7th day, AND how we ought to "remember" the Sabbath Day, to keep it Holy Jesus used the exact WORDS. And the Word of Jesus is sharper than a two edged sword. Jesus said: It is Finished Jesus said: I will give you rest The name of Jesus IS HALLOWED Jesus BLESSED the bread, and said I AM The bread of life Jesus said, I sanctify Myself, so that they may be Sanctified. Jesus said: "Do this in REMEMBRANCE of Me". You see... Jesus used those same words that YOU say. Finished, Hallowed, Blessed, Sanctified, Remember... Jesus also said He IS the Lord of The Sabbath. Why can't you see this and know that Jesus IS The Sabbath Day?? It's because your Church has lied to you
@@jfarrell2772Suffer persecution? 🤦♂️ The irony of your self-fulfilling prophecy while insulting Adventists in this same comment section is peak irony and hypocrisy. You've been up and done this entire page arguing and fighting with every Adventist on here. That's called bearing false witness as no one here has persecuted you. I'd say read the 9th commandment, but I remembered that you undoubtedly think the law was done away with.
The seventh day sabbath was instituted In Genesis IN THE BEGINNING Before Moses Genesis 2 King James Version 2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. 2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. And this matches Ten Commandments Exodus 20:8-11 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
ABOUT PERFECTION: The Bible teaches that GOD (through the power of the Holy Spirit) can PERFECT us BEFORE the 2nd Coming ofJesus. (See TITUS 2:11-14, and PHILLIPIANS 1:6).... Many Christian denominations believe and TEACH, that perfection in this life, BEFORE JESUS COMES, is NOT possible, which denies the power of God in people's lives, and is NOT Biblical.
Stax, again you have no understanding of what you read in Scripture and fail to read verses in it's context. You forgot Titus 2:14, the part where it says Jesus is the one who purifies us. Verse 5 states it's not our righteous works that saves us, but HIS BLOOD. Again, this speak of The Lord's Supper, which you reject. Only through partaking in The Lord's Supper, the Eucharist, is Jesus able to abide in us. AND BECAUSE HE ABIDES IN US, We are purified. Therefore, your perfection which SDAs preach is by your own works of righteousness, NOT BY JESUS ABIDING IN YOU. Jesus said unless your holiness exceeds that of the Pharasees, and you are able to live the rest of your life WITHOUT ONE BAD THOUGHT OR UNRIGHTEOUS ANGER TOWARDS OTHERS, Then you will NEVER ENTER HEAVEN. Do you think you can achieve that perfection???? Your doctrine is a lie and tramples on the blood and body of Jesus. You can never achieve that kind of perfection, unless you do what Jesus commands. And that is found in The Lord's Supper, the Eucharist. For it is the perfection of Christ which abides in us when we consume HIS BODY AND BLOOD ONLY
@@jfarrell2772 Did you even read what I wrote, and the verses that I cited? I said GOD (through the power of His Holy Spirit) is the one who perfects us. HE DOES THE WORK, NOT US! And He promises to complete it. We can't take any credit for that.... The blood of Jesus absolutely cleanses us, and that's how we get forgiveness of our sins... However, Titus teaches that the GRACE that God gives us to redeem us is NOT ONLY the shed blood of Jesus Christ, which pardons our sins, it's ALSO, the power to "deny ungodliness, live righteously and live soberly IN THE PRESENT AGE", BEFORE Christ returns. That power to overcome sin in our daily lives COMES FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT, NOT FROM OURSELVES!...This too is grace... And YES, it includes overcoming the things you mentioned above.... You shouldn't limit the power or God and what His Holy Spirit can do in our lives (and in YOUR life).
@@jfarrell2772 You definitely didn't read what I wrote, or the verses that I cited. I said GOD (through the power of His Holy Spirit) IS THE ONE who perfects us, NOT US! Also, Titus 2:11-14 says that we can "deny ungodliness, live righteously, live soberly, and live godly IN THIS PRESENT AGE", BEFORE Christ returns. It is the blood of Jesus that pardons us when we do sin, and it's the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that gives us the power to live godly and righteously, and OVERCOME SINS in our daily lives, NOT US. He's living THROUGH US..That's a part of what SANCTIFICATION is all about. Phillipians 1:6 teaches that once God begins that sanctifying work in us, HE (NOT US) is faithful to COMPLETE the work until the day of Jesus Christ's return! If you deny that, then you're denying what the power of God can do in our lives (and in YOUR OWN life)!
@@stax2210 Jesus gave us commandments on how exactly we get that grace and blood within us. It's through the Lord's Supper and belief in His true presence in the bread and wine. You and the SDA Church do not obey His command or believe in His words. Therefore, you try to keep the 10 commandments by your own works, without Him
jfarrell. The Lords supper is a commemoration of the death of Jesus on our behalf. Partaking of the supper does NOT save anyone. Jesus has already done so at the Cross. The supper is simply to REMEMBER what Jesus went through to save us from sin and its consequences eternal.death. If people continue to knowingly disobey God.they eating and drinking unworthily. It is no sin to be tempted otherwise Jesus sinned. Jesus referred to eating and drinking His body and blood to abide by what He asks of us throughHis word. A wafer cannot be miraculously.changed into the body of Christ. It is only a symbol of the time we will.eat with Jesus in eternity( when He comes)
Jesus 1 Peter 2:21 KJV For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Did Jesus say not to worship Him on the first day? 35:39
Matthew 28:1,5-9 KJV In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. [5] And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. [6] He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. [7] And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. [8] And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. [9] And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. When was Jesus resen what was the these wo.an doing base on the scriptures
The Bible did not predict every day is Sabbath or Sunday Sabbath it's unbiblical we don't lead by blind eye Remember,,,Exd 20 8-11 only only one day that God appointed that is Isaiah 66:22 it's very clear❤❤❤❤
Prov 23:23. Buy the truth and sale not! God blessed it and hallowed it and sanctified the Sabbath day. Man has no power to change God's law. Do you the difference between your wife and any other woman? Million are following man not God. They didn't know between clean and unclean they didn't distinguish between holy and unholy. Have mercy! Stand for God against the foe for your destiny. Amen!
Ecl 3:14-18 so powerful never ever mislead ourselves bible is our journey guide to our heavenly father GOD ,,, amen❤❤❤❤🙏💯. l will never ever worship on man made rules Sunday worship l Will died for Jesus who die for my sin by the way who was the first image created in Eden black man or white skin man if black man 💯%,,, I will die for him all the way from PNG🇵🇬🇵🇬🇵🇬🇵🇬....
THE EARLIEST CHRISTIAN CHURCH DID NOT WORSHIP ON SUNDAY!!! (See ACTS 11:22-26 and ACTS 13:42-48). Acts 11:26 Shows that new believers in Jesus were first called CHRISTIANS in ANTIOCH! Acts 13:42-48 shows that these new Christians worshiped on SATURDAY (SABBATH), NOT SUNDAY. In fact, if the Sabbath was supposed to be changed to Sunday in celebration, or in honor, of the resurrection, the Gentiles would have asked Paul and Barnabas to come back the NEXT DAY (Sunday), not the next Sabbath. Or, Paul and Barnabas would have invited the Gentiles to come back the next day, if Jesus had authorized a change in the day of worship, or congregating, to hear the word. The EARLIEST Christian church, which INCLUDED GENTILES, did NOT worship on Sunday!
Stax, you have no understanding of scripture and fail to include Acts 13: 47-50. If you understand what was happening, in it's context, you will see that, the ONLY REASON Paul and Barnabas were at the Synagogue on Saturday was because they were trying to CONVINCE the Jews about Jesus. Kind of like how I'm and others who believe as I do, trying to CONVINCE you all SDAs about the truth of Jesus. The only reason the Gentiles were there was because they wanted to hear Paul and Barnabas. What are you talking about? Gentiles didn't even worship on Saturdays at the Synagogue. They were Gentiles, not Jewish. Since the Jews REJECTED JESUS, kind of like how you all are doing, Paul and Barnabas dusted off their shoes and told the Jews that they were unworthy. After that incident is when Paul focused on preaching to the Gentiles. Paul and Barnabas were ex communicated from Judaism and were persecuted. Even though they continued to try and convince the Jews on Saturdays, the Jews continually rejected Jesus. Once Paul and Barnabas focused on the Gentiles, and the Churches began, such as Corinthians, Ephesians, etc .. the Bible DOES NOT say those Churches met on Saturdays
@@jfarrell2772 Unfortunately, YOU are the one who is confused. If GOD (JESUS) had authorized or supported ANY CHANGE in the observance from Saturday (the 7th day Sabbath), to Sunday, as His NEW day of rest and corporate worship, because of Christ's resurrection, or otherwise, ALL of the disciples/apostles would have not only taught new converts about the change in their travels, but also, they themselves would have personally lived by that, whether they were Jewish or not..... As Paul, Barnabas, etc. travelled from city to city, they were gaining new (Jewish AND GENTILE) believers, and were planting churches all along. There were churches in many other cities before they reached Ephesus and Corinth (such as Antioch, Iconium, Lystra, Syria, and Cilicia ...See ACTS 15:3, 15:23, AND 15:41). In ALL of those places their focus was to preach Christ as Messiah and Savior of the world. There was NO NEED to repeatedly preach Sabbath as the day of rest and corporate worship, because the Jews (and even some Gentiles) were already observing the Sabbath. That's why you see BOTH Jews AND Greeks (Gentiles) in the synagogues of Antioch (Acts 13:42-44), Iconium (Acts 14:1), Thessalonica (Acts 17:1-4), and Corinth (Acts 18:4).... GOD himself has always intended EVERYONE (Jews AND GENTILES) to observe the 7th day Sabbath. (See ISAIAH 56:2-4, 56:6-7, and ISAIAH 58:13-14). GOD never authorized the switch to Sunday. It is a man-made tradition, and YOU KNOW IT.
@@stax2210 Stax, in case you haven't noticed, the teachings of the Apostles to the earliest Christians is what I have been telling you all, which you all reject. The Apostles DID Teach the Early Church to observe The Lord's Supper and come together, corporately, to Worship Jesus, on the First Day of the week. And they DID do that. The proof is in the Writings of the early Church Father's. But you choose to believe EGW'S Writings from 1800 years later, instead of the writings of The Early Church Father's who personally knew and learned from the actual Apostles themselves! My goodness! Holy Spirit, open the eyes of the blind, in Jesus Name, Amen.
@@jfarrell2772 I'll say it again. GOD NEVER AUTHORIZED THE SWITCH FROM HIS HOLY 7TH DAY SABBATH TO SUNDAY... IT WAS A MAN-MADE TRADITION... In fact, if you're so well-read and versed in history and the early church, then you should know that the early church started the tradition of Sunday worship, around the 2nd and 3rd centuries because of rampant ANTI-SEMITISM at the time, which is well-documented in early Christian literature. It was a good way for new Gentile Christians to distance themselves from the hated Jews at the time. But the apostles taught the early Gentile Christians to observe the 7th day Sabbath, and they DID for many years..... Also, as time passed, like around the 4th century, the church tried to attract pagan worshippers (who were SUN worshippers) into their congregations, along with their idols, for social and political gain. The Catholic Church ended up embracing this model, and carried it forward for centuries... I'm sure you're aware of that too.... Listen Jfarrell, I'm not trying to get you to believe the truth if you DON'T want to believe it. That's up to you. Our job is to share the truth with you, then PRAY FOR YOU that you come to the knowledge of the truth and submit yourself to Holy Spirit, who is bringing you this truth, before it's too late. Don't resist God's truth, and continue in the SIN of disregarding God's Holy Sabbath, when you know better. (READ HEBREWS 10:26-27)
@@jfarrell2772 I'll say it again.... GOD DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE SWITCH from his holy 7th day Sabbath to Sunday. The switch was due to man-made traditions. The apostles taught the Gentile converts to observe Sabbath (as you see in Acts). In fact, if you're so well-read and versed in early church history, then you should know that the early church (around the 2nd and 3rd centuries) started the tradition of worshipping on Sundays because of rampant ANTI-SEMITISM that was prevalent at the time. The Jews were hated by lots of people back then, and switching worship services to Sundays was a good way to separate and distance themselves from the Jews. This is well-documented in the literature... Also, as time passed, like in 321 AD, the Emperor Constantine passed a law proclaiming Sunday as a rest day in the empire. He did that for social and political gain.... Later on, the Catholic Church continued the practice of Sunday worship, and even invited PAGAN Sun-Worshippers to join their congregations with their idols, which God's law strictly forbids!...Listen Farrell, I'm not trying to get you to believe something you DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE. That's up to you.... My job is to share the truth with you in LOVE, and pray that you allow the Holy Spirit to work on your heart, so that you will accept God's truth, and live by it, before it's too late. Don't resist it. (PLEASE READ ISAIAH 29:13, MATTHEW 15:8-9, AND HEBREWS 10:26-27 before it's too late).
What do you do when this Rome-made weekly cycle is changed and Saturday is now in the 1st place of the Roman weekly cycle, as in Samoa 2011-2012-ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html
@StPeter-zh1rk -If Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 says the new covenant is made for Israel, who is Israel? Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: Rom 2:29 👉But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly👈; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. Galatians 3:28 There is 👉neither Jew nor Greek👈, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:29 And if 👉ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. 👈 Romans 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only,👉but also of the Gentiles? 👈 Romans 9:25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; 👉there shall they be called the children of the living God. 👈 Also the whole of Romans 11 -These verses practically explain themselves. Believers in Jesus Christ become part of Israel. If you wanna remain a Gentile then do so. -Since you said Abraham, Enoch and Noah didn't keep the Sabbath, show me the verse your quoting to support that? Ill save you time brother and tell you there isn't a single verse backing up your statement. Your simply making an argument from silence. Can you please provide Scripture evidence to back up all your claims, or its just becoming a talk about your own personal opinion and that's all subjective and will get us nowhere...
Arthur and Teresa Beem "Sunday is NOT the Sabbath." The Roman Catholic Church has declared that they transferred the solemnity from the seventh day to the first. Thus, the Catechism declared, the 3rd commandment about remembering the Sabbath day (4th for Protestants) is binding on Catholic believers. We are glad that you do not agree with your church on this.
Hebrews chapter 4 and 10 got me to the point where I no longer believe that going to church on Saturday and not going out to eat on Saturday is a requirement for new covenant Christians
@@Switzerland_88 Hebrews 4 says in plain language the way to enter into Gods sabbath rest is by faith in Jesus. Then Hebrews 10 expounds on that by explaining the purpose of the law. Just read it.
@@OnBail-gq6cb since were speaking about plain language Hebrews 4 also says in plain language this... Hebrews 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise, And God rested on the seventh day from all his works; Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. Hebrews 4 doesn't support the abolishing of the Sabbath, but in fact makes it clearer that its still remains. In regards to your statement that its not required for New covenant Christians we read this in Hebrews 10... Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put 👉my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them👈; Hebrews is reaffirming the laws written in our hearts, showing they are not done away with. In full context, Heb 10 is speaking about the sacrificial laws and system which we see from verse 1-11. Then we see that Jesus comes to offer us the ultimate sacrifice in following verses. But to try and connect this to the Sabbath is something we don't see.
@OnBail-gq6cb since were speaking about plain language Hebrews 4 also says in plain language this... Hebrews 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise, And God rested on the seventh day from all his works; Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God. Hebrews 4 doesn't support the abolishing of the Sabbath, but in fact makes it clearer that its still remains. In regards to your statement that its not required for New covenant Christians we read this in Hebrews 10... Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put 👉my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them👈; Hebrews is reaffirming the laws written in our hearts, showing they are not done away with. In full context, Heb 10 is speaking about the sacrificial laws and system which we see from verse 1-11. Then we see that Jesus comes to offer us the ultimate sacrifice in following verses. But to try and connect this to the Sabbath is something we don't see.
Daniel: we don't worship the Pope. God began a divine magisterium from the beginning. That's why the Bible says Jesus is the cornerstone and His Apostles were the First Living Stones. He gave The "Keys" to Peter. This was the beginning of the Magisterium. Basically the Job of The Pope, The "Representative" of Christ, is to defend The Sacraments of The Catholic Church and all it's teachings. Teachings like: abortion IS a sin ALL THE TIME, Divorce IS A SIN, Remarriage IS ADULTERY, One MUST get baptized, repent of their sins and continuously confess their Sins to be forgiven, Christ is the ONLY ONE who can forgive sins AND Has given Authority to His Priests to Verbally say to the congregation "Your sins are forgiven" by The authority of Jesus. The Priests are NOT forgiving sins, they are telling you "your sins are forgiven" by Jesus, not them. Apostolic Succession is also part of the Magisterium Which Jesus Himself established. Most Importantly, The Eucharist, was established By Jesus Himself, in order for us to be continually cleansed from sin on a daily basis. All these things were commanded by Jesus Himself. You can choose NOT to believe, but to your eternal damnation. Believe Jesus, and Live!
what titel has the Pope taken ? Isent it vicar of Christ ? VICARIUS FILII DEI Dosent that name clame to be, insted of God. I dident give him that titel, He clamed it.
@@tasiaflynn3549what titel has the Pope taken ? Isent it vicar of Christ ? VICARIUS FILII DEI Dosent that name clame to be, insted of God. I dident give him that titel, He clamed it.
@@tasiaflynn3549 Does the Catholic Church clame to have athority above The Bible ? Yes they do, therefore the leader of the Catholic Church is playing God.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueBECAUSE, my neighbor, the Bible says "A day is as 1000 years", The Bible says 1day is a year, in SOME prophetic cases. However, When the day is confined to "evening/mornings", THEN it is a literal 24 hour period. Jesus told Adam and Eve, if they ate from the forbidden tree, they would die that "day". However, they continued to live for almost 1000 years! Glad you asked! I was waiting for someone to ask that question 🙂 By the way: the 2300 days in Daniel are "evening/mornings", so they are literal 24 hour days
What you wrote there made no sense to me. I'm asking what the missing phrase from the 7th day is supposed to prove? Some think it's supposed to prove that day was unending. Is that your point?
@@AdventDefenseLeagueMy goodness. It makes no sense to you, because there are blinders on your eyes 😢. Just believe and see. Let me put it another way: God says; " And the evening and morning were the 1st day". He says that for all six days. Why? because they are literal days. However, He does NOT say that for the 7th day. Why? Because the 7th day IS NOT about a literal day. It's about the future Messiah who would come and give us sinners rest. God knew what would happen and already Had The Plan of Salvation BEFORE The foundation of the Earth, before the 7th day was instituted. The Bible says, Jesus was already anointed to do God's will, BEFORE the Foundation of the Earth. The 7th day was all about Jesus, before the foundation of the Earth
First, I think you're extremely rude. Second, it didn't make sense because error makes no sense. Your theory is totally absent from the text in Genesis 2. Nothing in there speaks of any of that. You've made a huge theology out of missing information. That is a fallacy of silence. There could be any reason why it doesn't say "evening and morning," but you've decided to make it a reason that fits your theology. The seventh day is a literal day, whether or not it says "evening and morning" by the simple fact that the word "day," which is the RESULT of the "evening and morning," is present. Each previous day has the phrase to the point that by the time we reach the seventh day, the word "day" is pregnant with that meaning. Moreover, it is probably missing because there was no upcoming eight day, and the phrase was separating one day from the next. Nothing in the text says that the phrase is missing because of the future Messiah. That's a huge eisegetical interpolation on your part and it is no wonder I was confused, your adding stuff to the text that's not even there. Please, if you're going to be rude to people you disagree with, at least don't add to the scriptures while you're at it and make them say what it doesn't say. And next time, hop on to the livestream and call me blind there. This is tedious to have to type all the time when you could have just clicked the link.
@@stax2210(Isaiah 66:23 KJV) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
(Isaiah 66:23 KJV) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
@@Switzerland_88 Revelation 1:10: John says I was in the Spirit on The Lord's Day, vs.13: In the Midst of the golden lampstands was Jesus. Vs 17; when John saw him, he fell down like he was dead from fear. Then Jesus said "do not be afraid; I Am the First and the Last, vs 18; I am He who lives and was dead, and behold I'm alive forevermore". This speaks of His resurrection, which is on Sunday. The Lord's Day is Sunday (historical fact), and in these verses, we see a picture of worship to the one who resurrected, Revelation speaks of the prayers of the Saints ascending from the golden bowls full of incense and all who are in heaven bowing down to Jesus, saying "holy holy holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come". This IS The Catholic Mass, if you've ever been to one. Everything we pray corporately comes straight from the Bible verses, including that one
There is no one in heaven or earth to justify Sunday or Saturday as the real 7th day Sabbath, from the bible. The timing system was changed by Rome so the real Sabbath is still floating on the gregorian Calendar, just like easter-2Ki_4:23 And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well. Psa_81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. Isa_66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Eze_46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
We have historical writings going back to the Roman times that the Jews kept the 7th day on what the Romans called Saturday. Global timekeepers today verify that no change in day sequence has occurred since that time.
@@juligraham7319 It is very clear that you do not accept the evidence given from the bible or you do not understand what is written. Since you cannot use the bible to prove Sunday or Saturday Sabbath, Please post your historical writing that shows Saturday is the same 7th day from creation and show your evidence that it cannot be changed by man.
@@mauricecampbell6284 hmmm…okay…Jesus kept the sabbath but he had no idea which day he was keeping. Does that make any sense? He was under the Julian calendar. We know the sabbath he was keeping was the 7th day which called Saturday because we have historical records going back to Josephus. It’s a fact. Only one calendar change has occurred since Jesus’ day and that was the switch to the Gregorian calendar which never changed the order of days. That’s also a published fact by the Greenwich time keeper. I don’t know how much more clear this can be. Saturday is the 7th day of the week. And I see that you did not use a single biblical verse showing that know one knows when the 7th day is.
@@juligraham7319 So which calendar was dependent on the new moon? Who gave this new moon calendar? Which Calendar did the Hebrew use? Please show an example of a Julian calendar in the bible. I did not say" no one knows the 7th day"
The gregorian weekly cycle is changeable by man and is therefore not a firm foundation to build Yhwh's Sabbath-ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html
We have historical writings going back to the Roman times that the Jews kept the 7th day on what the Romans called Saturday. Global timekeepers today verify that no change in day sequence has occurred since that time.
@@Pacmanflatts23 Since that times means that since the Julian calendar and even before with the Gregorian the sequence of days 1 through 7 in a weekly cycle has never changed. The Catholic Church never changed the sequence of days. I’m not sure where you are getting that information from because it is factually untrue.
The writings of the early Church Presbytery clearly state that the early Church worshipped on the first day of the week corporately. So does the Didache. This is a historical fact, as far back as 70ad, writings from Deacons and Bishops who studied at the feet of the Apostles
@StPeter-zh1rk Tradition and Church fathers have nothing to do with Doctrines and truth. Dis why they matter not. If The Waldensians kept the Sabbath, amem. But keeping the Sabbath is not because the Waldensians did, but because the Lord Himself commanded.
@StPeter-zh1rk That just proves that your "Church" does NOT have the power to change the scriptures' nor the law. Although there are other bibles that are not from Catholic origin, so, no, we wouldn't need RCC to preserve the Bible. ;)
@@MajorGari If it weren't for the Catholic Church, you wouldn't have a Bible to study from. The early Church did not have the New Testament, so they kept the traditions of Peter and Paul. The Bible even says in 2 Thessalonians 2:15; hold the traditions taught by Peter and Paul The Early Bishops and Deacons wrote about these traditions that were taught them, by the Apostles, which were taught to the Apostles by Jesus Himself. How can you believe EGW writings, who has NO authority, but don't believe the writings of the early Church Father's, who DO have authority?
Let us break down Genesis 2:1-3, so that you SDAs can see, hopefully God willing, by the power of the Holy Spirit, that Jesus IS our Sabbath Day: Gen 2:1; Thus, the heaven s and Earth and all the host were FINISHED John 19:30; Jesus says IT IS FINISHED Genesis 2:2; on the seventh day God eneded His work which He had done Hebrews 4:10-11; for Jesus (as well as all believers) who has entered His rest, has Himself also ceased from His work as God did from His. Therefore, let US be diligent to enter THAT REST Genesis 2:2; And He rested on the seventh day from all His work. Hebrews 4:8-11; if Joshua gave them rest, he wouldn't have spoken of ANOTHER DAY, Therefore, there REMAINS a rest for the people of God. Jesus entered His rest and ceased from His works, like God did from His works. Therefore, let us be diligent to enter Jesus' rest. Matthew 11:28-29; Jesus said come to Me, and I will give you rest. You will find rest for your souls Genesis 2:3; God blessed the seventh day Matthew 26:26; Jesus took the bread and BLESSED IT, saying take, eat, this IS MY BODY. Luke 24: He took bread, BLESSED IT AND BROKE IT Genesis 2:God sanctified the seventh day John: 17:19; I Sanctify Myself, so that they also may be sanctified John 15: 5: he who abides in Me, and I in him... John 6: 56; he who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in Him John 6:55; My Flesh IS FOOD INDEED, MY BLOOD IS DRINK INDEED. Notice, He did not say food and drink are "symbols" of me If you do not enter Jesus' rest, and continue to worship a day called Saturnsday, and do not eat His flesh and Drink His blood, as Jesus commanded us, He cannot abide in you. And, you will continue keeping the commandments without Jesus, by your own works. That includes the fourth commandment
You are missing the beautiful point of the Sabbath. It is to “Remember” that Jesus “created the heaven and the earth, the sea and all that in them is.” It was made in a perfect world before sin. Why would you (or He) take away the very reason for our worship of Him?
@@juligraham7319 Luke 22:19; Jesus said "do this in "REMEMBRANCE" Of Me" Jesus IS the beautiful part. And Jesus IS The Sabbath. His plan of Salvation was BEFORE The Foundation of the Earth. Before the 7th day Sabbath. And if you don't keep Jesus by believing in His words, of The Holy Eucharist, or The Lord's Supper, then you ARE breaking the Sabbath
@@jfarrell2772 communion and sabbath are two different issues friend. The communion is done in remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice for our sin. We were ransomed into life by his broken body and blood. The remembrance of the 7th day Sabbath as established in Genesis 2 and reiterated in Exodus 20:8-11 points us back to Jesus as creator of all things. It establishes our relationship to God and Christ. God is creator through Christ who made everything that made, and is worthy of worship by us the created. The Eucharist is also unbiblical as it is based in transubstantiation. Communion is done in “remembrance” which means symbolic. Not a literal eating of Jesus.
@@juligraham7319 No Juli, that is what your Church has lied to you, your whole life. The Spirit of the Sabbath commandment is found in the words of Jesus: "I will give you rest", let us be diligent to enter His rest. "I AM The bread of life", "Take and eat, this is My Body", "My Flesh and Blood truly are food and drink", "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you", "If you eat my flesh and drink My blood, I will abide in you". Church and corporate worship was revolved around the Lord's Supper, because the early Church understood that Jesus IS The Sabbath and that day was The Lord's Day. This is historical fact, written by Deacons and Bishops, who knew and learned directly from the Apostles, who learned directly from Jesus Himself. Research it yourself Show me in the Bible where Jesus said this is a "symbol" of my body and blood? Jesus said this IS my body and blood. So, you have a choice to either believe Jesus or the lies you've been taught, because it's more comfortable and not offensive. Jesus said, "does this offend you?". Many of His disciples left Him because they did not believe
The cycle of the Sabbath is Monthly- New moon to new moon, then 7th day to 7th day....rest days are on the 1st, 8th.15th, 22nd and 29th day of the each Month. Therefore lev 23 can have fixed annual dates without any clash of work days and rest days. (Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 2Ki_4:23 And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well. Psa_81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day. Isa_66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD. Eze_46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g You only need somebody to help you to read the above simple text. worship is from one newmoon to the next newmoon and from one Sabbath to the next Sabbath. Please put this on a calendar with two colums-rest days and work days. This is the rythym(cycle) of the Sabbath.
@@mauricecampbell6284 All I need to read is Leviticus 23 where the Bible shows us what days the different sabbaths aftually fall on. Verses 2-3 show us that the weekly sabbath was not on set days of any particular month, it was shown to be on the seventh day of the week. Verses 4 and on show that the annual sabbaths were on set days of a month but not the weekly sabbath. And since the lunar sabbath theory causes you to set the weekly sabbath on the same set days of every month, it is unbiblical.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g "Verses 2-3 show us that the weekly sabbath was not on set days of any particular month," Sp lev 23 has fixed annual dates without a fixed Calendar? Please show an example of clash for the 10th day of the 1st Month.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g You trying to separate the 7th day Sabbath from the feasts days but the 7th day Sabbath was the major feast day, 4 times Moonthly.You also imply that their was a weekly calendar for the 7th day Sabbath and the other for the eparated feast-(10 Please show an example of a feast day clash with the 7th day Calendar (2) Please show an example of Someebody or anything that counted the 2nd,3rd...7 days week after the 1st week of creation. (3) Are you trying to say that your 7th day Sabbath is not a part of the Monthly Calendar?
Jesus fulfilled the 4th commandment by resting in the grave on the 7th day. Then He fulfilled the feast of first fruits by rising on the first day of the week. The name of Jesus is hallowed, He blessed His body and blood, and we are being sanctified by keeping His body and blood, as He commanded. This is the new covenant, in His blood which He commands. This is what we do on Sundays. Keep His body and blood (The Eucharist), as He commanded us. By doing this, we confess with our mouth His death and resurrection, until He comes again. This Supper is what He himself did on the first day of the week, when He blessed the bread and broke it with His disciples. By this, He is an example of how His Church worshipped from thence forth. That is why the disciples came together on the first day of the week to break bread. This is the continual practice since the early Church which Jesus Himself started. He is the Sabbath of the new covenant, in His blood and this is what He commands us to keep when we keep His other 9 commandments. This is also what Jesus said to keep in order for Him to abide in us. So if you think you are keeping the commandments without the Lord's Supper, then you ARE keeping the commandments by your OWN WORKS. This is what SDAs do not understand
Two misconceptions: 1 Jesus was fulfilling the Sabbath? No, he was fulfilling the law of Moses. There is no such verse stating the abolishing of the 4th commandment and the verse that points to Jesus as our rest does NOT deny the Sabbath. 2 Jesus never said how often should you have the Lord's Supper, it was not specified, but regardless, the SDA keeps that one and only new commandment, so they understand it's a remembrance of His covenant with us.
@@MajorGari SDAs do not understand scripture. Jesus said, I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill. He was talking about the 10 commandments as well. Resting on the 7th day in the grave is proof. He gave us The Lord's Supper in order that He abides in us, as it says in John 6:56. By this, He gives us power to keep the commandments. Without the Lord's Supper we are keeping commandments by our own works, not through Him. See John 6:53-54,57, John 14:15-17 The Lord's Supper is the new covenant and is the new commandment we keep: The covenant in the OT was the ten commandments which Moses said This is the covenant which God Commands. In The NT, The Lord's Supper is the New Covenant which God commands. See And compare Exodus 24:6-8, Hebrews 9:19-20, speaks of the OT covenant which God expected the Hebrews to keep on a regular basis. Jesus, who is God in the Flesh now says His Blood is the New Covenant. Matthew 26:28. He expects us to keep it on a regular basis. It's the New commandments in which we still keep. The ten Commandments fulfilled in us through Jesus Christ by eating and drinking His flesh and blood. Through Him we are able to keep the commandments by Him in keeping His Supper, which SDAs reject and are like those people in the parable who made excuses why they couldn't come to the Supper. Many people can keep the 10 commandments easily without the Lords Supper, like the rich young ruler and the Pharasees. But, that's what it means to keep the commandments by your own works. They remove Jesus by not doing what He said, which is "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you" He also said, after he broke bread and blessed it, and after He blessed the wine: take and EAT, take this and DRINK. This IS my body, This IS my blood
@@jfarrell2772 And once again I will repeat so that you understand: SDA keeps the Holy Supper with the actual 10 commandments. Also, you have can not show a verse denying the keeping of the Sabbath for this day. It's not a matter of understanding, if Jesus Himself did not declare that the Sabbath was not to be kept anymore, then it is still valid, even Paul explains which commandments were fulfilled by the cross, which was the Law of Moses referring to sacrifices. We no longer need to kill a lamb for our sins, for the Perfect Lamb has already been slain, that's the meaning you're refusing to understand. And another thing to note, is that, yes, the Holy Supper is a Commandment for us to Remember His sacrifice. Perfect. The New Covenant. HOWEVER, the 4th commandment, the Sabbath, refers to an Eternal Covenant, and a Sign between God and His people, a memorial of WHO Created us, also, it was instituted before Sin, not after, therefore, something that was stablished before Sin can not be changed by consequence of it. The Law still remains the same. Sin requires Death, but God in His mercy sent His son to die in our place. A Death still must occur, why? Because the law can NOT be changed. That's the nature of God. If God could Change the Law, there would be no need for Jesus to die. (and yes, He can change, but it would prove that Satan is Right now wouldn't it?)
It is very unfortunate to see us sda pose as bible champions but at the same time we fail to accept some plain bible facts or find impossible to accept this big error that the cycle of Sunday to Saturday is Rome-made and it is not the same cycle from creation and it is always changeable by man- ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html This moderm example brought a great confusion among the sda church when the Rome-made weekly cycle was changed.How could the creator gave the Sabbath without his own international timer? How could the creator gave fixed annual dates without a fixed Calendar? If Rome preserve Sunday or Saturday as the 7th day they have done very well for the world today
Simple. Just follow Jesus example. (Luke 4:16 KJV) And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. The day Jesus kept is preseved buy the Jews until now.
@@ashersian2563 What do you do when this Rome weekly cycle is changed and Saturday is now in the 1st place of the Roman weekly cycle, as in Samoa 2011-2012-ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html
Christian church doesn’t keep Sunday holy. So your question makes no sense at all, since in the new covenant there are no holy days. Time isn’t holy. A creation (day) isn’t holy. Only God is holy. You’re confusing the day of corporate worship and you think we believe that Sunday is holy. And that’s exactly what I thought about Christians as an Adventist. I was shocked to learn that Sunday isn’t holy, it’s simply a day when they corporately worship. We worship God every single day, on Sundays we gather to do it corporately. Why? Because that’s what the first church did. It was established on a Sunday, and Jesus after his resurrection would meet them on Sundays, week after week, before his ascension. So they just continued to do that. I never saw that in the Bible as an Adventist. Like I had such a thick veil over my eyes, that even the most simple verses I just didn’t see. For example, the verse that says when women met Jesus on the resurrection Sunday, they worshipped him. Why didn’t he say to them it’s bad to worship him on a Sunday? Because it’s not. There’s no single BAD day for worshipping God.
You would be wrong about Sunday not being considered holy by Evangelicals. If they call it the Lord's day, it's considered holy. Second, your talking about CHANGING A COMMANDMENT. That requires a COMMAND from the Lawgiver. Where is that. If Christ was going to make Sunday a rest day in the New Covenant, He would have announced it BEFORE HE SEALED THE NEW COVENANT WITH HIS BLOOD. You can't add anything to a Covenant once it's been sealed. Sunday is a fraud.
@@danielcristancho3524 Wait what??? No, we evangelicals don’t consider it holy. Being a Lords day doesn’t mean the 24 hours are literally holy. And where did I ever say that commandment was changed???? I didn’t say it was changed. We are not under the mosaic covenant. Exodus 34:28 says the 10 commandments ARE the words of the mosaic covenant. Galatians 3 makes it clear, that covenant lasted till Jesus. We are under the new covenant. In the new covenant there are no holy days!
@@life.after.adventism the Bible defines what the new covenant is. The law is still central to the covenant. But now with Jesus” blood instead of the blood of animals. Jeremiah 33 31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a NEW covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
SDAs keep the 10 commandments like the way they did in the Old Testament. As long as they keep the 7th day Sabbath. You don't understand what it means to keep the Spirit of the 10 commandments. Jesus says, you will not enter heaven, unless your holiness EXCEEDS that of the Pharasees. If you hate your fellow Catholic, you are guilty of murder. If you lust after a woman, you are guilty of adultery. Why don't you apply that to the Sabbath? Jesus said HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT, in John 6, when He spoke of eating His flesh and drinking His blood, and at His Supper. His words blessed, hallowed and sanctified Himself, in the New Testament. SDAs are still in the old testament, and are not keeping the 10 commandments the way Jesus told us to. Have you ever hated? Then you're a murderer. Are you not believing in and keeping the Lord's Supper, the way Jesus said?? Then you're breaking the Sabbath! Holy Spirit, make them see. Open the eyes of the blind. Amen
The idea that Christ died to lower the standards of God's law is the preaching of all evangelicals, Pentecostals and others, yet they forget that what landed Christ on the cross was Man's disobedience to God's law in the first place, Sabbath is as old as the creation of the world itself in Genesis 2:1-3
@StPeter-zh1rk The gentiles were not commanded to what? You sure about that? So you haven't read Isaiah 56. Let me show you:
Isa 56:1 Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
Isa 56:2 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
Isa 56:3 Neither let the son of the >>>> stranger >>> Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
@StPeter-zh1rk So yes, God made a Covenant of Sabbath with Americans, Greeks, etc. Can you not read who it is that God made the covenant with?
@StPeter-zh1rk neither is there a commandment for Gentiles to follow Jesus Christ
@StPeter-zh1rk Oh try again? SURE! I knew you'd say that, here is the reverse trap:
(I loved your reaction ngl)
The new covenant, surprise surprise (Romans 11:24) is exactly like Isaiah 56. There is no trap, just confusion from your mind. Notice that you join Israel and become the "Spiritual" Israel, in fact right in Romans Chapter 2:28-29 explains that those who have accepted the Gospel became Jew! You've set up a trap for yourself when trying to think dis was trap. The Promise the Lord made was with Abraham, by promise, I mean, a Covenant.
Check this out:
"Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. "
When you go to the context (Context is King) you'll understand to whom Paul is speaking. It's a declaration: That same Covenant with Israel is also with the Gentiles. But once again, it's nothing new. See how those verses converse with each other? Oh. Also, I will allow myself to fall on another "trap".
Same book, same prophet:
Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Soooooo... the verse here is very, very, VERY clear in stating "new Heaven and new Earth". How are you going to circumvent this prophecy? Are we still on this new "heaven and earth?" When does it come?
Let the bible speak:
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
Rev 21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
None of those prophecies have been fulfilled, yet the prophet is clear in declaring that the Sabbath ALL the Universe will Gather to Worship God. Not only the Sabbath but the new Moon (Tree of Life, but that is a subject for another day.)
It was a very nice try, but not today bro.
@@MajorGari
God gave the Sabbath to national Israel as a sign of their Old Covenant relationship, "It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever" (Ex.
31:13, 17). At the same time God commanded Israel not to share their covenant and
Sabbath with other nations (Ex.
23:32; Deut. 7:1-6). This is why Jesus did not command the non
Israelites whom he healed to observe the Sabbath and the rest of the Law. This is also why the Jewish Christians at the first church council did not require Gentile Christians to observe the Law (Acts 15:1-20; 21:18-28).
Therefore, the seventh day weekly Sabbath was not given to all mankind (Ex. 19:5, 6; 20:2;
31:13 - 18; Deut.
5:12 -15).
Love you guys and your effort and your time!! May God bless others through your amazing ministry!
The fact that the poor saints in Jerusalem were still worshipping on the Sabbath at the time of this offering does violence to any attempt to make Sunday the new day of worship. Even after the offering there is no mention of these poor saints worshipping corporately on the first day of the week. If taking up offerings on any day makes that day a new day of worship, then we are going to be all over the place chasing down worship days. What happens now with all of the other excuses that we hear for Sunday worship such as ,Jesus is my Sabbath and we can choose any day for our Sabbath! If the reasons or (excuses) are true, taking up an offering by the church officials on the first day of the week just would not matter. Was Jesus their Sabbath when this offering was taken up and was it true that any and every day could be the Sabbath when that coin clanked into the offering plate or hit the bottom of the charity bag?
You don't know what you are saying.Read the Bible, you find one Sabbath for both Jews and Gentiles.
@StPeter-zh1rk Well in all those texts you mentioned, you forgot Heb.8:10 “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:” And don't say that was for the nation of Israel.
“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28
And why is it you folks always bring EGW ? She has nothing to do with making the Sabbath, but unlike the monks and nuns you mentioned, her writings follow the Bible. That is an excuse on your part for not looking at Biblical facts.
Also remember the Sabbath was instituted at Creation not Sinai. The Lord had the Israelites keeping the Sabbath for over a month before Sinai, remember the miricale of mana ?
@StPeter-zh1rk So you pit the Bible against it self, that's what most people do that argue with what the Scriptures say, remember your not arguing with me, you argue with God. Looks like you also fail to read the Bible. Matt.23:37-39 says O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord." The Jewish nation as a whole are no longer Gods choosen people, individual Jews have the opportunity for salvation, but they like Gentiles are now a part of the seed of Abraham.
And no we do not get our doctrines from EGW, as you are fond of saying "what an ignorant statement you make".
All of our doctrines are Biblical. When you pit Scripture against Scripture, there is no discussion possible with you. You have your self a great day.
Haha... You definitely need help understanding.
@StPeter-zh1rk StPerer, God DID have a Sabbath commandment for MANKIND BEFORE giving the 10 commandments at Mt. Sinai. In fact, if you had kept reading Exodus 16, you would have seen it. LOL!...(SEE EXODUS 16:27-30).....
27 Now it happened that some of the people went out on the seventh day to gather (Manna), but they found none.
28 And the Lord said to Moses, “How long do you refuse to keep My commandments and My laws? 29 See! For the Lord has given you the Sabbath; therefore He gives you on the sixth day bread for two days. Let every man remain in his place; let no man go out of his place on the seventh day.”
30 So the people rested on the seventh day.
So, now you must ask yourself what did God mean in Verse 28 when He said the people were refusing to keep His Commandments and Laws??? What commandments and laws was He talking about? He hadn't given them the laws He wrote at Mt, Sinai yet. So he must have been talking about commandments and laws He ALREADY HAD IN PLACE BEFORE THEN for ALL OF MANKIND, which INCLUDED THE 7TH DAY SABBATH!!! The problem was, the WHOLE WORLD had forgotten those commandments of God, including the Israelites He delivered from Egypt, so He had to remind them of His laws, especially if they were going to be His chosen people moving forward..... Think about it for a minute...If God did not have ANY LAWS or commandments for ALL OF MANKIND to live by BEFORE Mt. Sinai, then He could not have accused anyone on Earth of sin, or held anyone on Earth accountable for sin, because there would have been no law to go by... That's a complete fantasy to believe there was no law or commandments for MANKIND before Sinai. You don't think people on Earth knew it was WRONG to steal, lie, murder, or commit adultery BEFORE Mt. Sinai? That doesn't make sense, and you know it.
On June 22nd I celebrated the sabbath out in the mountains.
Me and my friend we celebrated church By reading the book "The ministry of healing" By Ellen G. White and reading chapter three was absolutely wonderful. The title of chapter three is named "With Nature and With God".
I was Reading this chapter out loud and the birds started singing as if to be rejoicing when we were Reading about god's beauty and how awesome. God is when you're just surrounded by nature and then also Jesus when he would also commune out in the wilderness, out in nature by himself just him and His father conversing too one another. It's so beautiful, it's harmony in its fullest.
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
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9:00 - Presentation on 1 Corinthians 16:1-5
12:57 - Line Upon Line Studying
18:16 - Understanding 1 Corinthians 16:1-5
37:35 - Did Jesus make Sunday holy when He rose?
42:23 - Does Hebrews 4:8 Support Sunday Observance?
1:10:20 - Guest 1 - Does Galatians teach that Sabbath is a work of the Law?
1:28:59 - Does Acts 20:7 support Sunday Observance?
1:34:12 - Summary of 1 Corinthians 16
1:35:24 - Is there a such thing as a Christian Atheist?
1:36:45 - Question about the Scapegoat
1:37:45 - The Sabbath is about rest not work
1:38:21 - Paul became all things to all men
1:40:28 - ADL offers training
1:43:07 - Question about the Scapegoat
1:46:03 - ADL in Spanish?
1:47:24 - Friday night Bible study?
1:48:44 - Guest 2 - Example of how Paul became under the law
1:51:28 - Is it wrong hide your religion?
1:58:37 - Was Jesus referring to the Gates of Jerusalem in Matthew 24|20?
2:04:31 - Guest 3 - Does ADL support Last Generation Theology (LGT)?
2:12:02 - Can you pass the Investigative Judgement with sin?
2:30:59 - Does the Great Controversy teach that we can be sinless and perfect?
2:37:17 - Shall we fear the Judgement?
2:56:16 - Closing Thoughts/ Announcements
To all who are trying to add validity to the practice of the early church fathers worshipping on the first day of the week as an example of Christian worship as an alternative or replacement for the Seventh-day Sabbath, a very practical question comes to mind and that is, who's example were they themselves following. There has to be an example or command given by God that pre-dated them. There is a clear command to worship and rest on the 7th day of the week, and no matter how anyone tries to relegate the Sabbath as only for the Jews, there is no other command from God for any other group of people period. The old and New Covenants were made to the "House of Israel" and it is so funny how the Sabbath was only for the Jews in the old covenant but somehow the "New Covenant" which was also made for the "House of Israel" Sunday Christians are conveniently using it to try and prop up a day of worship that has no footing whatsoever in scripture. If there is no scripture to support Sunday worship in the Bible, it (Sunday) has got to fall into one of two categories, The Commandments of God or the Commandments of Men, there is no middle ground here. We know which day was commanded and we are about to see which day will be demanded!
Calvin Norton: In Genesis, the 7th day is not confined in terms of evening and morning, as the other days.
This day was fulfilled in Jesus, who was the example to the Apostles. You cannot find, anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus keeps the Sabbath and goes to the Synagogue on the Sabbath day, because He Himself is the Sabbath Day. His Sabbath came to His disciples on the first day of the week and broke bread. This was the first corporate worship of the early Church. The Church Father's, since 70ad wrote about this. How is it that you believe in EGW writings 1800 years after Jesus walked this Earth, and you don't believe the Early Church Father's, who knew the Apostles personally, and learned from them?
@@jfarrell2772we have several texts stating Jesus went to the synagogue on the Sabbath Day, the foremost account being Luke 4:16-21.
No where does He say “do not keep the sabbath because I am your sabbath.” Rather He says “I am the Lord of the Sabbath and it is made for man” (Mark 2:27), not just for Jews or apostles. It points us to Jesus as creator and God and worthy of our worship.
So by definition Sabbath was created to “Remember” Jesus’ creative power and therefore cannot be changed.
We see new believers breaking bread daily, and one account of Paul preaching “after the sabbath” on a Saturday night all night long, which by Bible reckoning is the first day of the week. Why? Because he was leaving the area for an extended period of time. It was a farewell speech. He spent the daylight hours of the first day (Sunday) traveling, so by his very actions he was not treating the day as a hallowed day. Not a single verse says sanctity of sabbath was transferred. In fact any account of sabbath worship, by believing Jew or believing gentile was done on the 7th day. No other day.
Keeping Sunday is simply keeping the tradition of man which Jesus said is vanity (Matt 15:9).
@@Pacmanflatts23 why does it need to say there are “10”? It does not even say that in the OT. But we can count them in Exodus 20 and there are 10. It’s an assumed understanding that all Jews knew there were 10 commandments in the NT as the only scripture they had was the OT.
We see all 10 of them mentioned and practiced in the NT. read Jesus discussion with the rich young ruler - particularly Matt 19:17. Read James 2 - the law is what we are judged by. Roman’s 13:8-10; 1 Cor 5:9-11; 1 Cor 6:9-11; 1 Cor 7:19; 1 Cor 10:14; Gal 5:19-21; Eph 4:20-30; Eph 5:3; Eph 6:1-3; Col 3:20; Hebrews 4:9; Rev 12:17; Rev 14:12; Revelation 22:14
@@juligraham7319 There are No texts saying that Jesus went to the Synagogue or kept the 7th day Sabbath, AFTER His resurrection. Because He fulfilled that fourth Commandment on the cross. When He rose from the dead, He became our Sabbath rest. But you still say Saturn's day is your Sabbath
@@jfarrell2772 Where in the Scriptures does it say Jesus is our Sabbath ? where does it say Jesus fulfilled the fourth commandment on the cross ?
The very fact that Jesus died for our sin (1 John 3:4; Roman’s 6:23) shows the immutability of the commandments. The 7th day Sabbath remains.
Prove it from the New Testament Scriptures that the Sabbath command remains.
@StPeter-zh1rk so God changed the law after Jesus’ death, but He refused to do it before Jesus had to suffer and die? Can you let me know the point of that?
Just a few verses that God does not change. He is a sure rock of truth.
Mal 3:6 for I am the Lord, I change not.
Psalms 119:44 So shall I keep thy law continually for ever and ever.
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Matt 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Psalms 33:11 The counsel of the Lord standeth for ever, the thoughts of his heart to all generations.
Psalms 89:34 My covenant will I not break, NOR ALTER the thing that is GONE OUT OF MY LIPS. Exodus 20:1 And GOD SPOKE ALL THESE WORDS saying: (the 10 commandments)
Proverbs 28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Eccl 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
What were the scriptures Jesus was referring to? The Old Testament, they all speak of Him. Every scripture quoted in the NT is from the OT. So why do Christians refuse to search the OT?
But at any rate Malachi 3:6 and Hebrews, 13:8, James 1:717-18 show us God just does not change.
So What He wrote and spoke does not change. Those would include the 10 commandments.
We also see the NT gentiles believers only came to the synagogue on the 7th day, as did Jesus, who also mentioned the sabbath as being an issue in the destruction of Jerusalem 40 years in the future (Luke 4:16, Luke 16:7, Matt 5:27-19, Matt 24:20) and Paul (Acts 23:24, 42-44, Acts 16:11-13, Acts 17:1-4, Acts 18:1-4, Acts 20:27. And Hebrews 4:9 says we keep it because God did.
The thing of it is the scriptures are so plain on this People would have to be denied in the bible to follow anything else Jesus said if you love me.Keep my command
Jesus commandments are not the Ten Commandments. Learn the Biblical covenant concept first if you want to correctly understand and interpret the Bible.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cdof course Jesus’ commands are the 10. He says to love. He says the 10 are love. You can’t love without keeping the 10.
@@juligraham7319
No, the Ten Commandments belongs to the Old covenant. It was given to Moses for the Israelites at Mount Sinai. The Lord Jesus instituted the New Covenant. He has His own commandments and it is more than 10. It is all over the New Testament pages.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd go for it friend. Destroy the 10 commandments which Jesus and all apostles tell us to keep and see where that leads us…to lawlessness, pain and death…oh yeah…the very definition of sin in 1 John 3:4.
@@juligraham7319Jesus done it on the cross event you cannot keep the Ten Commandments
You are a truth supporter you are my brother is just the wine... causing the trouble
Arthur and Teresa Beem
"There is no New Testament text that tells us to keep any day. Those texts are not telling us to keep any day."
"It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath."
@StPeter-zh1rk Isa 56:6 ... check it out
@StPeter-zh1rk
If the Sabbath was only for Israel, then ill continue to follow your logic..
Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a 👉new covenant with the house of Israel👈 , and with the house of Judah:
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jeremiah 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
-So we cant be apart of the new covenant either, since the New covenant is only for the house of Israel...
@StPeter-zh1rk
some reason i couldn't reply on the other comment so ill do so here...
All those verses say SABBATH and THE LORD. i was simply making the link between them both like i stated in my 2 previous comments
"These verses clearly show the link between The Lord and the Sabbath."
"I can prove Biblically without EGW that the Sabbath indeed can be called the Lords day."
i know that the Lords day in Rev 1:10 is speaking about the day of his coming as we read in the 2 previous verses...
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
Rev 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
Now you've made another assumption. When SDAs find a problem in verses or doctrine, we don't refer to EGW but apply these 5 key Bible verses...
Isa 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
Isa 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
1Co 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
Mat 18:16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
These are the verses that SDA founders used to fully study the Bible, they would compare scriptures on the same point to find truth. Every single doctrine we have can all be proved in the Bible unlike you said, thats why we can claim Sola Scriptura.
Now in regard to your Historical timeline and your logic that information closer to Jesus being more accurate. Let’s put that into play Biblically..
Acts 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called 👉Christians first in Antioch.👈
The disciples were first called CHRISTIANS in ANTIOCH. So what day were the keeping?
Acts13:14 But when they departed from Perga, they came to 👉Antioch👈 in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the 👉sabbath day👈, and sat down.
Lev 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an 👉holy convocation;👈
Now these verses clearly show them keeping the Sabbath in Antioch and not Sunday. Lev23:3 Says the Sabbath is also a day of Holy Convocation which simply means Assembly.
So, applying your logic, the closest people to Jesus historically who were called the first Christians actually kept Sabbath and not the First day. So there goes your whole stance on timelines...
@StPeter-zh1rk WRONG AGAIN StPeter..... READ EXODUS 16:27-30..... What "commandments and laws" was God talking about in THOSE VERSES SPECIFICALLY?... CAN YOU ANSWER THAT???...Also, notice the words (commandmentS and lawS) are PLURAL and NOT SINGULAR, meaning that the 7th day Sabbath was a part of a SET of commandments and laws that were ALREADY established BEFORE the time He asked Moses the question in Exodus 16!!! That's why God asked Moses the question in such a FRUSTRATED tone, because the laws and commands that God expected ALL OF HUMANITY to observe, INCLUDING THE 7TH DAY SABBATH, were being DISOBEYED by EVERYONE! The events of Exodus 16 were BEFORE Mt. Sinai, and BEFORE he made the covenant with Israel.
@StPeter-zh1rk WRONG AGAIN StPeter..... READ EXODUS 16:27-30..... What "commandments and laws" was God talking about in THOSE VERSES SPECIFICALLY?... CAN YOU ANSWER THAT???...Also, notice the words (commandmentS and lawS) are PLURAL and NOT SINGULAR, meaning that the 7th day Sabbath was a part of a SET of commandments and laws that were ALREADY established BEFORE the time He asked Moses the question in Exodus 16!!! That's why God asked Moses the question in such a FRUSTRATED tone, because the laws and commands that God expected ALL OF HUMANITY to observe, INCLUDING THE 7TH DAY SABBATH, were being DISOBEYED by EVERYONE! The events of Exodus 16 were BEFORE Mt. Sinai, and BEFORE he made the covenant with Israel.
1Co 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God
Sunday Worship cannot be rescued from it's fate in Revelation 13 and 14. How many people are worshipping on Sunday in light of these text? The quantitative outcome and answer to this question is damning and should be sobering!!
@StPeter-zh1rk That's the problem. You have to go outside of the bible to connect the lords day to Sunday. No single verse inside the bible says the lords day is Sunday.
@StPeter-zh1rk
Now your making assumptions brother, when did i say that i disrespect the church fathers? no where.. but here you are accusing me.
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
If what the church fathers say, agree with the Bible then their lies no contradiction. But if they make statements that are no where to be found in the Bible then that's where the problem lies as Isaiah 8:20 states.
Now lets carry on with my logic you said was flawed, Here is the difference, I can prove Biblically without EGW that the Sabbath indeed can be called the Lords day. But can you prove that Sunday is the Lords day Biblically without the Church Fathers?
@StPeter-zh1rk
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Biblically, Gentile believers are grafted in and become Jews. I'm using ideas that belong in the Law and Testimony to support my stance. But like i asked you before which you ignored, can you prove Sunday is the Lords day biblically?
Is it appropriate of you to use information outside of the Bible and not according to the Law and testimony to support your stance?
@StPeter-zh1rk
Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is 👉Lord also of the sabbath. 👈
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the 👉sabbath of the LORD thy God👈...
Lev23:3 ....it is the 👉sabbath of the LORD👈in all your dwellings.
Deu 5:14 But the 👉seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:👈
Isa 58:13 If thou turn away thy foot from the 👉sabbath👈, from doing thy pleasure on 👉my holy day;👈
These verses clearly show the link between The Lord and the Sabbath.
Now can you Biblically provide a link between The Lord and Sunday?
@StPeter-zh1rk
Yes
Why would there be a change in the sabbath?But not a change in the other 9.Don't make sense if people are being dishonest with themselves and the bible
None of the other 9 is the sign of the covenant. How can anyone miss that?
@StPeter-zh1rk
Totally agree with you. Failure to understand the fundamental difference between the Old and the New covenants are the most common causes of biblical misinterpretation and theological errors in Christianity today.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd There was NO COVENANT to even consider when GOD established the 7th Day Sabbath AT CREATION (See Genesis 2:2-3, Mark 2:27-28) because there was NO SIN. God originally intended for the WHOLE WORLD to observe His 7th day Sabbath as a memorial of His creation, and as a way to acknowledge and WORSHIP Him as the CREATOR of ALL THINGS (See Exodus 20:8-11 and Revelation 14:7). So talking about covenants, with regard to the Sabbath, is worthless, futile, and BIBLICALLY DISHONEST. Also, attempting to isolate the Sabbath command from the other 9 commandments, with respect to how Christians should apply them to their lives, is spiritually DANGEROUS. It is a SIN to disregard or replace ANY of God's commandments. (Matthew 5:17-19, Deuteronomy 4:2,; John 14:15, 14:21, and 14:24; 1 John 2:3-4, Revelation 22:18-19)
@@stax2210
Where is your biblical support saying that Adam and Eve kept the Sabbath? The Sabbath day in the Genesis creation account was Adam's 1st day on earth. There was no command at all from God to Adam and Eve to keep the seventh day sabbath. No command to the whole world about the sabbath can be read in any pages of the Bible. In context Mark 2 is talking about Jewish people (mankind), not the whole mankind. The God of the Bible is not the source of confusion and double standards. He gave the seventh day sabbath to the Israelites as the SIGN of the Covenant between God and them. No way He is going to turn around and give it to the whole world or if it was meant for the whole world there is no way He is going to give it to the Israelites only. Some Bible scholars believe that there are Edenic and Adamic covenant in the pages of Genesis although not explicitly stated. But one thing is clear, God is a Covenant- Making God and a Covenant- Keeping God as expressed with Noah (Genesis 6:18), Abraham (Genesis 12:1-3, 15:18).
@@stax2210
Give me your Biblical evidence from the Book of Genesis commanding the whole world to keep the seventh day sabbath. Genesis creation account was written by Moses the Mediator of the Old Covenant given at Mount Sinai. Also show me any New Testament verses commanding Believers of the Lord Jesus Christ to keep the seventh day sabbath and any New Testament passages showing that sabbath breaking as a sin.
My brother, James 2: 17-26 Faith without works is dead....
Your legalistic outward work is dead but the work through the heart motivated by love is what being referred here. Obviously you don't know the difference. 😂
My Brother, we are saved by faith and SAVING FAITH brings forth good works. BY their FRUITS you shall know them.
@@flexx7611 1 John 4:19 We love because God first loved us. 20 If we say we love God, but hate our brothers and sisters, we are liars. For people cannot love God, whom they have not seen, if they do not love their brothers and sisters, whom they have seen. 12
@@flexx7611James seems to contradict Romans but through study and prayer I've come to realize that James is defining "works" as Obedience. James is saying Faith without obedience is dead. A great example of this is when God asked Abraham to offer his the son he loved as a sacrifice and Abraham obeyed, therefore his faith was displayed.
And in Romans, Paul doesn't mention "works" but he would probably define it as self-justification. That is, seeking to be justified through your merit of keeping the commandments.
Even Paul says to obey the commandments, as someone that keeps the Sabbath, I do it, not to justify myself but because I've acknowledged God as my creator, supreme ruler and savior.It's His Sabbath and he REQUIRES me to observe it, and the least I can do is obey.
It's not about Christians and Jews, it's about those who have a covenant with God. In that agreement God promises he will be my God and I will be among his people if I obey his commandments.
If you do not obey his commandments you're not part takers of his covenant.
As the Catholic Church says " you can read the bible from genises to revelation and you will not find one verse that says sunday is the Sabbath of GOD "
Isaiah 56:6-7
“Also the sons of the foreigner Who join themselves to the Lord, to serve Him, And to love the name of the Lord, to be His servants- Everyone who keeps from defiling the Sabbath, And holds fast My covenant- Even them I will bring to My holy mountain, And make them joyful in My house of prayer. Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices Will be accepted on My altar; For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all nations.”
Hebrews 4:9, So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God
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@@bible_heavyweights in my opinion and I dont think it's biblical
There will be other people from all religions in heaven. People who have never heard of JESUS or those who have never read a verse from the bible . GODS a fair GOD . A good Muslim Hindu Seik etc .
@@gordo191only if they had 0 opportunity to learn the truth.
@@bible_heavyweights
In context Hebrews 4:9 is not talking about the seventh day sabbath.
@FIJIApologist-ab1cd 4520. sabbatismos ►
Strong's Concordance
sabbatismos: a sabbath rest
Original Word: σαββατισμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: sabbatismos
Phonetic Spelling: (sab-bat-is-mos')
Definition: a sabbath rest
Usage: a keeping of the Sabbath, a Sabbath rest.
Can it be any more clear ? 😎
HEBREWS CHAPTERS 3 & 4 etc; If we DELIBERATELY HARDEN our HEART against the WORD of God we will NOT enter the promised land of REST.
Hebrews chapters 3 and 4 is not talking about the promised land of rest. It is about entering God’s rest.
@@FIJIApologist-ab1cd Hi FIJIA. Can you explain God's rest? Thanks much.
Also please explain how does one enter that rest. I am learning. Thanks.
@@berylcunningham1328
The writer of Hebrews is saying that if entering rest merely meant entering Canaan under Joshua, then we would not have had David repeating the call to enter centuries later. He is referring to Psalm 95:11 in Hebrews 4:7-8. So the writer concludes in verse 9 that there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. The concept the writer is explaining is that the word
"rest" in the Bible is a word God uses to describe entering into salvation by faith, which leads to our glory in God's presence. That rest is God's rest. It's a rest He makes available. It's a rest we enter by faith. When we have faith in His promises, we enter His rest, and since that rest is the Lord's rest, it remains for ever. God has been resting from all His creation work since the seventh day sabbath in the creation account of the Book of Genesis. Likewise, we will enjoy that perpetual rest by our faith. We do not work our way to salvation; we rest in the work God did on our behalf through Jesus Christ. As the writer says in verse 10, the one who has entered the Lord's rest is the one who has rested from his works, just as God rested from His works. The day you receive Christ as your Savior, you cease from trying to attain your own eternal rest.
@@berylcunningham1328 Matthew 11:28 - 30 tells us that our rest is found in Jesus. We rest in what he has done for us, his yoke is easy. He gives us the grace of God that is found through believing and trusting in him and being filled by his spirit.
We are not saved by our works or by law keeping. That is a yoke that does not give us the rest of Jesus. In Acts 15:10 Peter tells us that the yoke of the law is not the same as the yoke of Christ
All its saying. That the collection. They was ask to set it aside. So they can have it ready. For no delay. Because the need of the people in Jerusalem. Was urgent. Famine was upon the people. So now we use the word donation. That where there's a disaster. The one in charge. That was coming to pick the goods to be given to those in needs. ❤❤❤❤❤
God asked us to remember Him, our Creator, and to rest on the Sabbath. It's akin to celebrating a birthday. While you can celebrate every day, the true significance lies in commemorating the actual birth date, surrounded by friends and family on that special occasion. In the same way, God desires us to honor the Sabbath. So, why not give Him the reverence He deserves?
Luke 1:74-75 KJV
That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, [75] In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.
34:53 "day" is supplied. It just says "Every first of week" or, literally, "kata [according] mian [first] sabbatou [of sabbath]."
@StPeter-zh1rk Actually SHABBAT first occurs as the verb for God's rest in Genesis 2. וַיִּשְׁבֹּת֙ ... שָׁבַת֙ A "rest" takes place when one "rests." The "sabbath" took place when God "rested."
@StPeter-zh1rk First, it is good that you recognize that the Scriptures declare that acknowledging the Sabbath, which God blessed and sanctified at the creation--for man (Mark 2:27)--was made a covenant for His people, the house of Israel. Notice the reason that it is a sign between God and Israel--"FOR [because] in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." It is because they recognize the true Creator God. HOWEVER, when sons of the stranger (Gentiles) ACKNOWLEDGED the Creator God by entering covenant with Him, they were expected to observe God's day of rest. "Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant" (Isa. 56:6). If you don't acknowledge the true Creator God, you don't have to keep the Sabbath. But, if you do, "There it is the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath" (Heb. 4:11, Syriac).
I hope you know enough about the actual meaning of sabbatismos not to try to argue against the use of Hebrews 4:11 here. The Syriac uses the verb "to keep the Sabbath." The Greek word "sabbatismos" is used repeatedly in the first centuries to describe those who keep the seventh-day Sabbath. For documentation, Google "Sabbatismos in Hebrews (Updated May 24, 2023)"
@StPeter-zh1rk YES.
Exod 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: FOR [Heb. see below] in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Genesis 2:3
HEB: וַיְקַדֵּ֖שׁ אֹת֑וֹ כִּ֣י ב֤וֹ שָׁבַת֙
NAS: and sanctified it, BECAUSE in it He rested
KJV: and sanctified it: BECAUSE that in it he had rested
@StPeter-zh1rk I think you need to read my response again.
@StPeter-zh1rk here comes the avoidance/ changing goal posts or twisting of your words
Luke 20:1-2 KJV
And it came to pass, that on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon him with the elders, [2] And spake unto him, saying, Tell us, by what authority doest thou these things? or who is he that gave thee this authority?
Also, why would God change what Jesus did Jesus kept the sabbath?And he commanded us all to do the same.He said it was made for you
@StPeter-zh1rkMark 2:27 “And he said unto them,”The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath. Meaning that the Sabbath is for the benefit of all mankind. The Jews didn’t sanctify the sabbath, God did. We are to keep it holy.
@StPeter-zh1rkthe 10 commandments were already commanded and Jesus upheld them and magnified them according to the sermon on the Mount. He kept them perfectly because we are told He never sinned. He was perfect.
Jesus died because they are UNCHANGEABLE.
if they were able to change, what kind of Heavenly Father would allow Jesus to suffer and die for our sin (1 John 3:4) if He could have simply abolished the law to save Jesus from unnecessary pain and death?
@StPeter-zh1rk friend. Jesus kept the Sabbath because he was a man. And He was obedient to God’s law. The sabbath of all commandments we can be certain was created on the 7th day of creations and there were no Jews in site. Read Mark 2:27- sabbath was made for man, not for Jew.
If you believe you can break only the 4th commandment and you are okay, read James 2. You break one you break them all. Aka you are a law breaker. 1 John 3:4.
@StPeter-zh1rk The Sabbath was instituted by God at the end of creation week when he sanctified it and made it holy. No Jews then. Genesis 2:2-3, And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. God set the Sabbath as an example for humanity to follow - not a certain group of people. The sabbath is a gift of rest.
The New Covenant in the NT spoken of in Hebrews 8 restores us to God’s original plan., “I will put my laws in their mind and write them in their hearts.” This is how God’s laws were instilled in Adam and Eve. Because of sin each generation began to follow the laws and rituals and gods of heathen nation and were not keeping God’s laws. They broke the covenant. Sin led Israel into captivity. When they came out of captivity, God had to write his laws on tables of stone with his finger to show they were permanent. They had forgotten the laws - they weren’t written in their heart.
The fourth commandment starts with “Remember the sabbath day”. Exodus 20:11 points back to creation, “For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day, wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and hallowed it.”
In the NT there was never a dispute about the Sabbath. Early Christians kept the Sabbath. Acts 13:42 “And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.” Acts 13:44 “And the next Sabbath day came almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.”
Gentiles heard the truth and became Christians and they worshipped on the Sabbath. The Sabbath was not exclusive to Jews. The Jewish nation didn’t even acknowledge Jesus as the Messiah. God wanted the gospel to go out to all the world so that everyone could hear the message and observe the Sabbath.
Sabbath will be observed in eternity
Isaiah 66:22-23 shows that the Sabbath will be kept by the redeemed in the new earth. “For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make shall remain before Me, says the Lord, so shall your offspring and your name remain. From new moon to new moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before Me, declares the Lord” (Isaiah 66:22-23, ESV).
This will occur after sin and sinners have been destroyed and the earth has been restored by God. It says “all flesh” will come together to worship God on the Sabbath. That doesn’t sound like the Sabbath is exclusive to Jews or is of no importance.
John 14:15 If you love me, keep my commandments. All commandments, including the fourth. You don’t get to pick and choose the ones you want to keep.
@StPeter-zh1rk God sanctified the Sabbath day at Creation, before there was any Jew.
If someone go to church on Sunday instead of Saturday to worship,that doesn't say that person keep sunday holiday.that day the person did choose to go out and fellowship with others,that person still worship God and also take out the time to reflect on the most high.,I don't think it's is wrong ,which you seems like and explained.Human should worship every day reflect on Jesus this will reminds me can sin and we human.
It's hard when keeping Saturday for worshipping only for most It's not a sin to worship on Sunday, worshipping any day it's a reminder Jesus is there to help us when we are fallen and flatter and not to stay there but to just get up and move on .Jesus is my Sabbath.
Many will say all day seems alike.
To him his is own beliefs.
It was read in the bible God bless the seventh day and hallowed it .But for me most time I rest from my work if I have given that day Saturday, I rest at home, if there is something to do on that day I go and get it done .
@@annmarienembhard6936Heb 4:5-10 1 Cor 1:4-6 The message about Christ has become so firmly established in you, 7 that you have not failed to receive a single blessing, as you wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed 8-9 1 Cor 3:11 For GOD has already placed Jesus Christ as the one and only foundation, and no other foundation can be LAID.
God asked us to remember Him, our Creator, and to rest on the Sabbath. It's akin to celebrating a birthday. While you can celebrate every day, the true significance lies in commemorating the actual birth date, surrounded by friends and family on that special occasion. In the same way, God desires us to honor the Sabbath. So, why not give Him the reverence He deserves?
@@maryc8tubeThe Resurrection 28:1-10 Mk 16:1-10 Lk 1:-12 Jn 20:1-10. Heb 4:3-6 Those who first heard the Good News did NOT receive that REST, BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BELIEVE 7 This is shown by the fact God sets another day, which is called " TODAY " 8 If Joshua had given the people the rest that God had promised, God would not have spoken later about another day. 10 For those who receive that rest which God promised will rest from their own work, just as God rested from his. Heb 8:9-13 By speaking of a new covenant, God has made the first one OLD, and anything that becomes OLD and worn out will soon DISAPPEAR. Romans 10:4 For CHRIST has brought the LAW to an END, so that everyone who believes is put right with GOD 12:19 Never take revenge, my friends, but instead let God's do it. For the scripture says, "I will take revenge, I will pay back, says the LORD.
@@maryc8tube Colossians 2:16-17 1Jn 4:1-3 Ephesus 2:11-20, The one Gossip. Galatians 1:6-9
Leviticus 23 specifically talks about sacred assembly on the first day of the week. One of which is the feast of the first fruits which was fulfilled by the resurrection of Jesus
That happened once per year in the Old Testament. It met its fulfillment when Jesus resurrected.
Are you suggesting that once a year God's people should still keep the Firstfruits on a Sunday in Spring?
@@thatnicekid04 It was the greatest event in Human history - Jesus was the first fruits of the resurrection and that is the whole gospel 1 Corinthians 15 makes this clear.
Also not everyone who worships the risen Lord on Sunday believe and keep that day as a 'Sabbath'
Tell me where does the Bible command gentile Christians to keep Sabbath?
@@Searcher-z5e The first day/Sunday is not blessed, sanctified, nor did God rest on it. The resurrection day is not blessed, sanctified, nor did God rest on it. Sunday is a regular common working day like days 2-6. There is literally nothing special about the first day of the week (Sunday) at all or any other day of the week except the seventh day, the Sabbath in the Bible.
@@NateH1984 The resurrection is what Christians remember and celebrate. But your right - it does not matter what day we worship the risen Christ on. But..Where does the NT tell Gentile Christians to keep Sabbath?
@@Searcher-z5e
The NT does not need to tell anyone to keep the sabbath. It was already in effect.
In Both Acts 20:7 and 1 Cor 16:2 the sunday worshippers use these to claim the disciples worshiped on Sunday." On the first day of the week...." In Both verses the word "day" is italicized meaning it is not in the original manuscripts but added by the translators. The word "Week" is Sabbaton(Sabbath ) in the greek. Therefore the Verse should be translated " On the first of Weeks" . This is refering to the Feast of Weeks in Leviticus 23. It is the counting of seven weeks starting on the first Sabbath after Passover to determine when the feast of Shavuot occurs. 7 x 7=49 + 1 day is Pentecost. These verses hav nothing to do with Sunday worship. Also look at the surrounding verses for context
Since “week” can be translated as “Sabbath,” should the Romans and First Corinthians texts be translated as “first Sabbath?”
Sorry, rather the literal Greek would be, "Upon one day after Sabbath."
Luke 19:47 KJV
And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him,
The Sabbath is the 7th day of the week according to the calendar the Israelites used.
Scripture never says it was anything other than that. These facts still don't justify becoming SDA.
Luke 19:46-48 KJV
Saying unto them, It is written, My house is the house of prayer: but ye have made it a den of thieves. [47] And he taught daily in the temple. But the chief priests and the scribes and the chief of the people sought to destroy him, [48] And could not find what they might do: for all the people were very attentive to hear him.
Curious and intelligent folks will have a “show me” attitude to most things especially GOD. I
wonder if some people don’t respect that a woman can be a prophet? I don’t know why EGW is a problem!
The lake of fire is eternal
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The Seventh day is not confined in terms of evening and morning as the other days...? How was this unconfined day nailed to the cross? And if we started out with an unconfined day in creation, how did we end up with a confined day on Sunday. God happened to rest on this so called unconfined day and he blessed and sanctified it. If this day the Sabbath, and lets be clear was actually unconfined, what need or use would the Jews have for it, they would not be able to observe a day that could not be found. I said in another place that no one knows when or where the Sabbath is until its time to nail it to the cross or say that it was only for the Jews! If as claimed, the Sabbath is unconfined at creation and the New Testament is silent concerning it's observance, then Sunday worship would have to be on life support because it would be dealt a double death blow in both testaments. There is no credible evidence for Sunday worship in any book, chapter or verse in God's Holy word. Jesus is your Sabbath! What happened to Sunday? Why not say that Jesus is your Sunday?
Calvin Norton: Genesis does NOT say, "so the evening and morning were the 7th day" It says that for all the other 6 days. That's what I meant. The Sabbath is not about the 24 hour period. It's about Jesus. You don't make sense, saying saying, "Jesus is my Sunday". Sunday is just a day, like Saturday is just a day. You wouldn't say, Jesus is my Saturday. Sabbath, however, means rest. Jesus is my rest. My REST (SABBATH) is found in Jesus.
You however find your Sabbath in Saturday, Not Jesus. Saturnsday is your Sabbath and your Sabbath is Saturnsday.
Don't you get it? SDAs worship the Day. We worship Jesus
@@jfarrell2772 Why is Sunday so important to you if Jesus is your Sabbath. You are the one that brought up the church fathers and them meeting on the first day of the week. There was evidently some significance to you mentioning that as if to say that Sunday was now taking the place of the Sabbath as far as a day of worship is concerned. I am just asking you to be consistent with your claims. Did the church fathers find somehow Sunday to be Holy. That was important to you in one of your previous messages. Now I am hearing , it's not really a day to keep but it is Jesus who is your Sabbath. Sunday seems now to be taking a back seat to at least the Sabbath terminology. Anyway I accept what you believe as significantly important to you. Thanks for your comments!
@@Pacmanflatts23 Yes, they don't believe in eternal HELL. I used to be a brainwashed SDA, trapped in the chains of that evil fallen angel that is the overseer of that church. I come on these channels and suffer persecution because I actually care about them and hope at least one SDA out there will open their eyes and escape Hell and escape the grips of the evil spirit
@@calvinmcnorton7466 I never placed importance on Sunday. It just happened that Jesus Rose from the grave on Sunday. He broke Bread with His disciples on Sunday. He was in the midst of His disciples on Sunday, Their eyes were opened "in the breaking of bread", as it says in Luke, on Sunday. The Disciples, as well as all others fell down to worship Him on Sunday. It just so happens that all these things occurred on Sunday. So, from thenceforth, The Early Church, continued in the fellowship and breaking of bread on Sundays. Not because of the day, but because of Jesus.
Jesus never appeared in the Synagogue on the Sabbath, after His resurrection, nor is there reference of Him keeping the Saturday Sabbath after His resurrection.
Furthermore, Jesus IS THE SABBATH.
You reference Genesis when God said IT IS FINISHED, after He created the other six days, then He Hallowed, blessed and sanctified the 7th day, AND how we ought to "remember" the Sabbath Day, to keep it Holy
Jesus used the exact WORDS. And the Word of Jesus is sharper than a two edged sword.
Jesus said: It is Finished
Jesus said: I will give you rest
The name of Jesus IS HALLOWED
Jesus BLESSED the bread, and said I AM The bread of life
Jesus said, I sanctify Myself, so that they may be Sanctified.
Jesus said: "Do this in REMEMBRANCE of Me".
You see... Jesus used those same words that YOU say. Finished, Hallowed, Blessed, Sanctified, Remember...
Jesus also said He IS the Lord of The Sabbath.
Why can't you see this and know that Jesus IS The Sabbath Day??
It's because your Church has lied to you
@@jfarrell2772Suffer persecution? 🤦♂️ The irony of your self-fulfilling prophecy while insulting Adventists in this same comment section is peak irony and hypocrisy. You've been up and done this entire page arguing and fighting with every Adventist on here.
That's called bearing false witness as no one here has persecuted you.
I'd say read the 9th commandment, but I remembered that you undoubtedly think the law was done away with.
The seventh day sabbath was instituted In Genesis IN THE BEGINNING Before Moses
Genesis 2
King James Version
2 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
And this matches Ten Commandments
Exodus 20:8-11
8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Here is Bible Chapter and verse pertaining to the question
Amen, sunday is the mark of the beast.
However, the trinity is 100% catholic and sda church membership is NOT the remnant.
ABOUT PERFECTION: The Bible teaches that GOD (through the power of the Holy Spirit) can PERFECT us BEFORE the 2nd Coming ofJesus. (See TITUS 2:11-14, and PHILLIPIANS 1:6).... Many Christian denominations believe and TEACH, that perfection in this life, BEFORE JESUS COMES, is NOT possible, which denies the power of God in people's lives, and is NOT Biblical.
Stax, again you have no understanding of what you read in Scripture and fail to read verses in it's context. You forgot Titus 2:14, the part where it says Jesus is the one who purifies us. Verse 5 states it's not our righteous works that saves us, but HIS BLOOD. Again, this speak of The Lord's Supper, which you reject. Only through partaking in The Lord's Supper, the Eucharist, is Jesus able to abide in us. AND BECAUSE HE ABIDES IN US, We are purified. Therefore, your perfection which SDAs preach is by your own works of righteousness, NOT BY JESUS ABIDING IN YOU.
Jesus said unless your holiness exceeds that of the Pharasees, and you are able to live the rest of your life WITHOUT ONE BAD THOUGHT OR UNRIGHTEOUS ANGER TOWARDS OTHERS, Then you will NEVER ENTER HEAVEN. Do you think you can achieve that perfection???? Your doctrine is a lie and tramples on the blood and body of Jesus. You can never achieve that kind of perfection, unless you do what Jesus commands. And that is found in The Lord's Supper, the Eucharist. For it is the perfection of Christ which abides in us when we consume HIS BODY AND BLOOD ONLY
@@jfarrell2772 Did you even read what I wrote, and the verses that I cited? I said GOD (through the power of His Holy Spirit) is the one who perfects us. HE DOES THE WORK, NOT US! And He promises to complete it. We can't take any credit for that.... The blood of Jesus absolutely cleanses us, and that's how we get forgiveness of our sins... However, Titus teaches that the GRACE that God gives us to redeem us is NOT ONLY the shed blood of Jesus Christ, which pardons our sins, it's ALSO, the power to "deny ungodliness, live righteously and live soberly IN THE PRESENT AGE", BEFORE Christ returns. That power to overcome sin in our daily lives COMES FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT, NOT FROM OURSELVES!...This too is grace... And YES, it includes overcoming the things you mentioned above.... You shouldn't limit the power or God and what His Holy Spirit can do in our lives (and in YOUR life).
@@jfarrell2772 You definitely didn't read what I wrote, or the verses that I cited. I said GOD (through the power of His Holy Spirit) IS THE ONE who perfects us, NOT US! Also, Titus 2:11-14 says that we can "deny ungodliness, live righteously, live soberly, and live godly IN THIS PRESENT AGE", BEFORE Christ returns. It is the blood of Jesus that pardons us when we do sin, and it's the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that gives us the power to live godly and righteously, and OVERCOME SINS in our daily lives, NOT US. He's living THROUGH US..That's a part of what SANCTIFICATION is all about. Phillipians 1:6 teaches that once God begins that sanctifying work in us, HE (NOT US) is faithful to COMPLETE the work until the day of Jesus Christ's return! If you deny that, then you're denying what the power of God can do in our lives (and in YOUR OWN life)!
@@stax2210 Jesus gave us commandments on how exactly we get that grace and blood within us. It's through the Lord's Supper and belief in His true presence in the bread and wine. You and the SDA Church do not obey His command or believe in His words. Therefore, you try to keep the 10 commandments by your own works, without Him
jfarrell. The Lords supper is a commemoration of the death of Jesus on our behalf. Partaking of the supper does NOT save anyone. Jesus has already done so at the Cross. The supper is simply to REMEMBER what Jesus went through to save us from sin and its consequences eternal.death. If people continue to knowingly disobey God.they eating and drinking unworthily. It is no sin to be tempted otherwise Jesus sinned. Jesus referred to eating and drinking His body and blood to abide by what He asks of us throughHis word. A wafer cannot be miraculously.changed into the body of Christ. It is only a symbol of the time we will.eat with Jesus in eternity( when He comes)
do SDA’s keep the feasts and Passover?
If not why?
No.
Check out ADL's videos on the Feast Days.
No, Because the very chapter that critics use to say the Sabbath is done away with is actually speaking about the feasts Colossians 2.
The feasts are no longer observed because the elements needed to observe them no longer exist.
Jesus 1 Peter 2:21 KJV
For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his
steps:
Did Jesus say not to worship Him on the first day?
35:39
If we are following the example of Jesus, we'd be keeping the Sabbath Holy as He did.
When did Jesus say that?
Amen
Matthew 28:1,5-9 KJV
In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. [5] And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified. [6] He is not here: for he is risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the Lord lay. [7] And go quickly, and tell his disciples that he is risen from the dead; and, behold, he goeth before you into Galilee; there shall ye see him: lo, I have told you. [8] And they departed quickly from the sepulchre with fear and great joy; and did run to bring his disciples word. [9] And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
When was Jesus resen what was the these wo.an doing base on the scriptures
Jesus was seen on what we call Sunday morning around sunrise.
The Bible did not predict every day is Sabbath or Sunday Sabbath it's unbiblical we don't lead by blind eye Remember,,,Exd 20 8-11 only only one day that God appointed that is Isaiah 66:22 it's very clear❤❤❤❤
Christ didn't rise on Sunday( mat.28:1-7) just like the Father rested on the 7th Day christ also rose on the 7th day sabbath
Prov 23:23. Buy the truth and sale not! God blessed it and hallowed it and sanctified the Sabbath day. Man has no power to change God's law. Do you the difference between your wife and any other woman? Million are following man not God. They didn't know between clean and unclean they didn't distinguish between holy and unholy. Have mercy! Stand for God against the foe for your destiny. Amen!
Ecl 3:14-18 so powerful never ever mislead ourselves bible is our journey guide to our heavenly father GOD ,,, amen❤❤❤❤🙏💯. l will never ever worship on man made rules Sunday worship l Will died for Jesus who die for my sin by the way who was the first image created in Eden black man or white skin man if black man 💯%,,, I will die for him all the way from PNG🇵🇬🇵🇬🇵🇬🇵🇬....
Notice this rest is not physical for your soul. It's not the same as what you do 51:33
THE EARLIEST CHRISTIAN CHURCH DID NOT WORSHIP ON SUNDAY!!! (See ACTS 11:22-26 and ACTS 13:42-48).
Acts 11:26 Shows that new believers in Jesus were first called CHRISTIANS in ANTIOCH! Acts 13:42-48 shows that these new Christians worshiped on SATURDAY (SABBATH), NOT SUNDAY. In fact, if the Sabbath was supposed to be changed to Sunday in celebration, or in honor, of the resurrection, the Gentiles would have asked Paul and Barnabas to come back the NEXT DAY (Sunday), not the next Sabbath. Or, Paul and Barnabas would have invited the Gentiles to come back the next day, if Jesus had authorized a change in the day of worship, or congregating, to hear the word. The EARLIEST Christian church, which INCLUDED GENTILES, did NOT worship on Sunday!
Stax, you have no understanding of scripture and fail to include Acts 13: 47-50.
If you understand what was happening, in it's context, you will see that, the ONLY REASON Paul and Barnabas were at the Synagogue on Saturday was because they were trying to CONVINCE the Jews about Jesus.
Kind of like how I'm and others who believe as I do, trying to CONVINCE you all SDAs about the truth of Jesus.
The only reason the Gentiles were there was because they wanted to hear Paul and Barnabas. What are you talking about? Gentiles didn't even worship on Saturdays at the Synagogue. They were Gentiles, not Jewish.
Since the Jews REJECTED JESUS, kind of like how you all are doing, Paul and Barnabas dusted off their shoes and told the Jews that they were unworthy. After that incident is when Paul focused on preaching to the Gentiles.
Paul and Barnabas were ex communicated from Judaism and were persecuted.
Even though they continued to try and convince the Jews on Saturdays, the Jews continually rejected Jesus.
Once Paul and Barnabas focused on the Gentiles, and the Churches began, such as Corinthians, Ephesians, etc .. the Bible DOES NOT say those Churches met on Saturdays
@@jfarrell2772 Unfortunately, YOU are the one who is confused. If GOD (JESUS) had authorized or supported ANY CHANGE in the observance from Saturday (the 7th day Sabbath), to Sunday, as His NEW day of rest and corporate worship, because of Christ's resurrection, or otherwise, ALL of the disciples/apostles would have not only taught new converts about the change in their travels, but also, they themselves would have personally lived by that, whether they were Jewish or not..... As Paul, Barnabas, etc. travelled from city to city, they were gaining new (Jewish AND GENTILE) believers, and were planting churches all along. There were churches in many other cities before they reached Ephesus and Corinth (such as Antioch, Iconium, Lystra, Syria, and Cilicia ...See ACTS 15:3, 15:23, AND 15:41). In ALL of those places their focus was to preach Christ as Messiah and Savior of the world. There was NO NEED to repeatedly preach Sabbath as the day of rest and corporate worship, because the Jews (and even some Gentiles) were already observing the Sabbath. That's why you see BOTH Jews AND Greeks (Gentiles) in the synagogues of Antioch (Acts 13:42-44), Iconium (Acts 14:1), Thessalonica (Acts 17:1-4), and Corinth (Acts 18:4).... GOD himself has always intended EVERYONE (Jews AND GENTILES) to observe the 7th day Sabbath. (See ISAIAH 56:2-4, 56:6-7, and ISAIAH 58:13-14). GOD never authorized the switch to Sunday. It is a man-made tradition, and YOU KNOW IT.
@@stax2210 Stax, in case you haven't noticed, the teachings of the Apostles to the earliest Christians is what I have been telling you all, which you all reject. The Apostles DID Teach the Early Church to observe The Lord's Supper and come together, corporately, to Worship Jesus, on the First Day of the week. And they DID do that. The proof is in the Writings of the early Church Father's. But you choose to believe EGW'S Writings from 1800 years later, instead of the writings of The Early Church Father's who personally knew and learned from the actual Apostles themselves! My goodness!
Holy Spirit, open the eyes of the blind, in Jesus Name, Amen.
@@jfarrell2772 I'll say it again. GOD NEVER AUTHORIZED THE SWITCH FROM HIS HOLY 7TH DAY SABBATH TO SUNDAY... IT WAS A MAN-MADE TRADITION... In fact, if you're so well-read and versed in history and the early church, then you should know that the early church started the tradition of Sunday worship, around the 2nd and 3rd centuries because of rampant ANTI-SEMITISM at the time, which is well-documented in early Christian literature. It was a good way for new Gentile Christians to distance themselves from the hated Jews at the time. But the apostles taught the early Gentile Christians to observe the 7th day Sabbath, and they DID for many years..... Also, as time passed, like around the 4th century, the church tried to attract pagan worshippers (who were SUN worshippers) into their congregations, along with their idols, for social and political gain. The Catholic Church ended up embracing this model, and carried it forward for centuries... I'm sure you're aware of that too.... Listen Jfarrell, I'm not trying to get you to believe the truth if you DON'T want to believe it. That's up to you. Our job is to share the truth with you, then PRAY FOR YOU that you come to the knowledge of the truth and submit yourself to Holy Spirit, who is bringing you this truth, before it's too late. Don't resist God's truth, and continue in the SIN of disregarding God's Holy Sabbath, when you know better. (READ HEBREWS 10:26-27)
@@jfarrell2772 I'll say it again.... GOD DID NOT AUTHORIZE THE SWITCH from his holy 7th day Sabbath to Sunday. The switch was due to man-made traditions. The apostles taught the Gentile converts to observe Sabbath (as you see in Acts). In fact, if you're so well-read and versed in early church history, then you should know that the early church (around the 2nd and 3rd centuries) started the tradition of worshipping on Sundays because of rampant ANTI-SEMITISM that was prevalent at the time. The Jews were hated by lots of people back then, and switching worship services to Sundays was a good way to separate and distance themselves from the Jews. This is well-documented in the literature... Also, as time passed, like in 321 AD, the Emperor Constantine passed a law proclaiming Sunday as a rest day in the empire. He did that for social and political gain.... Later on, the Catholic Church continued the practice of Sunday worship, and even invited PAGAN Sun-Worshippers to join their congregations with their idols, which God's law strictly forbids!...Listen Farrell, I'm not trying to get you to believe something you DON'T WANT TO BELIEVE. That's up to you.... My job is to share the truth with you in LOVE, and pray that you allow the Holy Spirit to work on your heart, so that you will accept God's truth, and live by it, before it's too late. Don't resist it. (PLEASE READ ISAIAH 29:13, MATTHEW 15:8-9, AND HEBREWS 10:26-27 before it's too late).
What do you do when this Rome-made weekly cycle is changed and Saturday is now in the 1st place of the Roman weekly cycle, as in Samoa 2011-2012-ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html
@StPeter-zh1rk
-If Jeremiah 31 and Hebrews 8 says the new covenant is made for Israel, who is Israel?
Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 👉But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly👈; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Galatians 3:28 There is 👉neither Jew nor Greek👈, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Galatians 3:29 And if 👉ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. 👈
Romans 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only,👉but also of the Gentiles? 👈
Romans 9:25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
Romans 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; 👉there shall they be called the children of the living God. 👈
Also the whole of Romans 11
-These verses practically explain themselves. Believers in Jesus Christ become part of Israel. If you wanna remain a Gentile then do so.
-Since you said Abraham, Enoch and Noah didn't keep the Sabbath, show me the verse your quoting to support that? Ill save you time brother and tell you there isn't a single verse backing up your statement. Your simply making an argument from silence. Can you please provide Scripture evidence to back up all your claims, or its just becoming a talk about your own personal opinion and that's all subjective and will get us nowhere...
Arthur and Teresa Beem
"Sunday is NOT the Sabbath." The Roman Catholic Church has declared that they transferred the solemnity from the seventh day to the first. Thus, the Catechism declared, the 3rd commandment about remembering the Sabbath day (4th for Protestants) is binding on Catholic believers. We are glad that you do not agree with your church on this.
Catholic Church teaching is the truth. SDA doctrines false there is no truth.
The Sunday/Saturday Sabbath is a perfect distraction from the truth and the real 7th day Sabbath
Heb 4:5-10 8:9-13 By speaking of a new covenant, God has made the first one OLD and worn out will soon DISAPPEAR
Hebrews 4. /thread
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@@AdventDefenseLeague
Yes, sorry I apologise. Thanks for showing me.
Hebrews chapter 4 and 10 got me to the point where I no longer believe that going to church on Saturday and not going out to eat on Saturday is a requirement for new covenant Christians
How do you arrive at that conclusion after those 2 chapters especially Hebrews 4?
@@Switzerland_88 Hebrews 4 says in plain language the way to enter into Gods sabbath rest is by faith in Jesus. Then Hebrews 10 expounds on that by explaining the purpose of the law. Just read it.
@@OnBail-gq6cb
since were speaking about plain language Hebrews 4 also says in plain language this...
Hebrews 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise, And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;
Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Hebrews 4 doesn't support the abolishing of the Sabbath, but in fact makes it clearer that its still remains. In regards to your statement that its not required for New covenant Christians we read this in Hebrews 10...
Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put 👉my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them👈;
Hebrews is reaffirming the laws written in our hearts, showing they are not done away with. In full context, Heb 10 is speaking about the sacrificial laws and system which we see from verse 1-11. Then we see that Jesus comes to offer us the ultimate sacrifice in following verses. But to try and connect this to the Sabbath is something we don't see.
@OnBail-gq6cb
since were speaking about plain language Hebrews 4 also says in plain language this...
Hebrews 4:4 For he hath said somewhere of the seventh day on this wise, And God rested on the seventh day from all his works;
Hebrews 4:9 There remaineth therefore a sabbath rest for the people of God.
Hebrews 4 doesn't support the abolishing of the Sabbath, but in fact makes it clearer that its still remains. In regards to your statement that its not required for New covenant Christians we read this in Hebrews 10...
Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put 👉my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them👈;
Hebrews is reaffirming the laws written in our hearts, showing they are not done away with. In full context, Heb 10 is speaking about the sacrificial laws and system which we see from verse 1-11. Then we see that Jesus comes to offer us the ultimate sacrifice in following verses. But to try and connect this to the Sabbath is something we don't see.
@@Switzerland_88 you’re right brother the text does say that I’ll have to revisit it and do some more studying then I’ll get back to you thanks
Notice Jesus say He wirk here
So if God is The Head of every thin, wee beter folow Him. Not the Pope and his atempt to play God ?
Daniel: we don't worship the Pope. God began a divine magisterium from the beginning. That's why the Bible says Jesus is the cornerstone and His Apostles were the First Living Stones. He gave The "Keys" to Peter. This was the beginning of the Magisterium. Basically the Job of The Pope, The "Representative" of Christ, is to defend The Sacraments of The Catholic Church and all it's teachings. Teachings like: abortion IS a sin ALL THE TIME, Divorce IS A SIN, Remarriage IS ADULTERY, One MUST get baptized, repent of their sins and continuously confess their Sins to be forgiven, Christ is the ONLY ONE who can forgive sins AND Has given Authority to His Priests to Verbally say to the congregation "Your sins are forgiven" by The authority of Jesus. The Priests are NOT forgiving sins, they are telling you "your sins are forgiven" by Jesus, not them. Apostolic Succession is also part of the Magisterium Which Jesus Himself established. Most Importantly, The Eucharist, was established By Jesus Himself, in order for us to be continually cleansed from sin on a daily basis.
All these things were commanded by Jesus Himself.
You can choose NOT to believe, but to your eternal damnation.
Believe Jesus, and Live!
The Pope never say his God it your own words say the pope i God.
what titel has the Pope taken ? Isent it vicar of Christ ? VICARIUS FILII DEI
Dosent that name clame to be, insted of God.
I dident give him that titel, He clamed it.
@@tasiaflynn3549what titel has the Pope taken ? Isent it vicar of Christ ? VICARIUS FILII DEI
Dosent that name clame to be, insted of God.
I dident give him that titel, He clamed it.
@@tasiaflynn3549 Does the Catholic Church clame to have athority above The Bible ? Yes they do, therefore the leader of the Catholic Church is playing God.
Fact Check: Does the Bible say, in Genesis: "and the Evening and Morning were the 7th day"? NO 😊
What is missing information supposed to prove?
@@AdventDefenseLeagueBECAUSE, my neighbor, the Bible says "A day is as 1000 years", The Bible says 1day is a year, in SOME prophetic cases.
However, When the day is confined to "evening/mornings", THEN it is a literal 24 hour period.
Jesus told Adam and Eve, if they ate from the forbidden tree, they would die that "day". However, they continued to live for almost 1000 years!
Glad you asked! I was waiting for someone to ask that question 🙂
By the way: the 2300 days in Daniel are "evening/mornings", so they are literal 24 hour days
What you wrote there made no sense to me. I'm asking what the missing phrase from the 7th day is supposed to prove? Some think it's supposed to prove that day was unending. Is that your point?
@@AdventDefenseLeagueMy goodness. It makes no sense to you, because there are blinders on your eyes 😢. Just believe and see.
Let me put it another way: God says; " And the evening and morning were the 1st day". He says that for all six days. Why? because they are literal days. However, He does NOT say that for the 7th day. Why? Because the 7th day IS NOT about a literal day. It's about the future Messiah who would come and give us sinners rest.
God knew what would happen and already Had The Plan of Salvation BEFORE The foundation of the Earth, before the 7th day was instituted.
The Bible says, Jesus was already anointed to do God's will, BEFORE the Foundation of the Earth. The 7th day was all about Jesus, before the foundation of the Earth
First, I think you're extremely rude. Second, it didn't make sense because error makes no sense. Your theory is totally absent from the text in Genesis 2. Nothing in there speaks of any of that. You've made a huge theology out of missing information. That is a fallacy of silence. There could be any reason why it doesn't say "evening and morning," but you've decided to make it a reason that fits your theology.
The seventh day is a literal day, whether or not it says "evening and morning" by the simple fact that the word "day," which is the RESULT of the "evening and morning," is present. Each previous day has the phrase to the point that by the time we reach the seventh day, the word "day" is pregnant with that meaning. Moreover, it is probably missing because there was no upcoming eight day, and the phrase was separating one day from the next.
Nothing in the text says that the phrase is missing because of the future Messiah. That's a huge eisegetical interpolation on your part and it is no wonder I was confused, your adding stuff to the text that's not even there.
Please, if you're going to be rude to people you disagree with, at least don't add to the scriptures while you're at it and make them say what it doesn't say. And next time, hop on to the livestream and call me blind there. This is tedious to have to type all the time when you could have just clicked the link.
The problem you are having is that you're wording something in a certain wY.
How else do you word things?
Is Jesus still keeping the Saturday Sabbath in Heaven? If so, show me one verse in the Bible?
We simply don't know, because the Bible doesn't speak on this matter.
Is Jesus keeping SUNDAY in Heaven, in celebration of His resurrection? If so, show me ONE verse in the Bible.
@@stax2210(Isaiah 66:23 KJV) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
(Isaiah 66:23 KJV) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
@@Switzerland_88 Revelation 1:10: John says I was in the Spirit on The Lord's Day, vs.13: In the Midst of the golden lampstands was Jesus. Vs 17; when John saw him, he fell down like he was dead from fear. Then Jesus said "do not be afraid; I Am the First and the Last, vs 18; I am He who lives and was dead, and behold I'm alive forevermore". This speaks of His resurrection, which is on Sunday. The Lord's Day is Sunday (historical fact), and in these verses, we see a picture of worship to the one who resurrected, Revelation speaks of the prayers of the Saints ascending from the golden bowls full of incense and all who are in heaven bowing down to Jesus, saying "holy holy holy, Lord God Almighty, Who was and is and is to come". This IS The Catholic Mass, if you've ever been to one. Everything we pray corporately comes straight from the Bible verses, including that one
There is no one in heaven or earth to justify Sunday or Saturday as the real 7th day Sabbath, from the bible. The timing system was changed by Rome so the real Sabbath is still floating on the gregorian Calendar, just like easter-2Ki_4:23 And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well.
Psa_81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
Isa_66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Eze_46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened. Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
We have historical writings going back to the Roman times that the Jews kept the 7th day on what the Romans called Saturday. Global timekeepers today verify that no change in day sequence has occurred since that time.
@@juligraham7319 It is very clear that you do not accept the evidence given from the bible or you do not understand what is written. Since you cannot use the bible to prove Sunday or Saturday Sabbath, Please post your historical writing that shows Saturday is the same 7th day from creation and show your evidence that it cannot be changed by man.
@@juligraham7319 It is very unfortunate to know that this is all you could do in relation to what was written above.
@@mauricecampbell6284 hmmm…okay…Jesus kept the sabbath but he had no idea which day he was keeping. Does that make any sense? He was under the Julian calendar. We know the sabbath he was keeping was the 7th day which called Saturday because we have historical records going back to Josephus. It’s a fact. Only one calendar change has occurred since Jesus’ day and that was the switch to the Gregorian calendar which never changed the order of days.
That’s also a published fact by the Greenwich time keeper.
I don’t know how much more clear this can be. Saturday is the 7th day of the week.
And I see that you did not use a single biblical verse showing that know one knows when the 7th day is.
@@juligraham7319 So which calendar was dependent on the new moon? Who gave this new moon calendar? Which Calendar did the Hebrew use? Please show an example of a Julian calendar in the bible. I did not say" no one knows the 7th day"
The gregorian weekly cycle is changeable by man and is therefore not a firm foundation to build Yhwh's Sabbath-ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html
We have historical writings going back to the Roman times that the Jews kept the 7th day on what the Romans called Saturday. Global timekeepers today verify that no change in day sequence has occurred since that time.
@@Pacmanflatts23 Since that times means that since the Julian calendar and even before with the Gregorian the sequence of days 1 through 7 in a weekly cycle has never changed.
The Catholic Church never changed the sequence of days. I’m not sure where you are getting that information from because it is factually untrue.
The writings of the early Church Presbytery clearly state that the early Church worshipped on the first day of the week corporately. So does the Didache. This is a historical fact, as far back as 70ad, writings from Deacons and Bishops who studied at the feet of the Apostles
There's no proof of Bishops or your deacons studying from apostles feet in the Bible
@StPeter-zh1rk Tradition and Church fathers have nothing to do with Doctrines and truth. Dis why they matter not. If The Waldensians kept the Sabbath, amem. But keeping the Sabbath is not because the Waldensians did, but because the Lord Himself commanded.
@StPeter-zh1rk That just proves that your "Church" does NOT have the power to change the scriptures' nor the law. Although there are other bibles that are not from Catholic origin, so, no, we wouldn't need RCC to preserve the Bible. ;)
No Bible verses, just latter tradition 😂
@@MajorGari If it weren't for the Catholic Church, you wouldn't have a Bible to study from.
The early Church did not have the New Testament, so they kept the traditions of Peter and Paul. The Bible even says in 2 Thessalonians 2:15; hold the traditions taught by Peter and Paul
The Early Bishops and Deacons wrote about these traditions that were taught them, by the Apostles, which were taught to the Apostles by Jesus Himself.
How can you believe EGW writings, who has NO authority, but don't believe the writings of the early Church Father's, who DO have authority?
Nobody keeps Sunday! Weirdos
Its called deception when you dont know youre decieved.
Let us break down Genesis 2:1-3, so that you SDAs can see, hopefully God willing, by the power of the Holy Spirit, that Jesus IS our Sabbath Day:
Gen 2:1; Thus, the heaven s and Earth and all the host were FINISHED
John 19:30; Jesus says IT IS FINISHED
Genesis 2:2; on the seventh day God eneded His work which He had done
Hebrews 4:10-11; for Jesus (as well as all believers) who has entered His rest, has Himself also ceased from His work as God did from His. Therefore, let US be diligent to enter THAT REST
Genesis 2:2; And He rested on the seventh day from all His work.
Hebrews 4:8-11; if Joshua gave them rest, he wouldn't have spoken of ANOTHER DAY, Therefore, there REMAINS a rest for the people of God. Jesus entered His rest and ceased from His works, like God did from His works. Therefore, let us be diligent to enter Jesus' rest.
Matthew 11:28-29; Jesus said come to Me, and I will give you rest. You will find rest for your souls
Genesis 2:3; God blessed the seventh day
Matthew 26:26; Jesus took the bread and BLESSED IT, saying take, eat, this IS MY BODY.
Luke 24: He took bread, BLESSED IT AND BROKE IT
Genesis 2:God sanctified the seventh day
John: 17:19; I Sanctify Myself, so that they also may be sanctified
John 15: 5: he who abides in Me, and I in him...
John 6: 56; he who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in Him
John 6:55; My Flesh IS FOOD INDEED, MY BLOOD IS DRINK INDEED.
Notice, He did not say food and drink are "symbols" of me
If you do not enter Jesus' rest, and continue to worship a day called Saturnsday, and do not eat His flesh and Drink His blood, as Jesus commanded us, He cannot abide in you. And, you will continue keeping the commandments without Jesus, by your own works. That includes the fourth commandment
You are missing the beautiful point of the Sabbath. It is to “Remember” that Jesus “created the heaven and the earth, the sea and all that in them is.”
It was made in a perfect world before sin.
Why would you (or He) take away the very reason for our worship of Him?
@@juligraham7319 Luke 22:19; Jesus said "do this in "REMEMBRANCE" Of Me"
Jesus IS the beautiful part. And Jesus IS The Sabbath. His plan of Salvation was BEFORE The Foundation of the Earth. Before the 7th day Sabbath. And if you don't keep Jesus by believing in His words, of The Holy Eucharist, or The Lord's Supper, then you ARE breaking the Sabbath
@@jfarrell2772 communion and sabbath are two different issues friend. The communion is done in remembrance of Jesus’ sacrifice for our sin. We were ransomed into life by his broken body and blood.
The remembrance of the 7th day Sabbath as established in Genesis 2 and reiterated in Exodus 20:8-11 points us back to Jesus as creator of all things. It establishes our relationship to God and Christ. God is creator through Christ who made everything that made, and is worthy of worship by us the created.
The Eucharist is also unbiblical as it is based in transubstantiation. Communion is done in “remembrance” which means symbolic. Not a literal eating of Jesus.
@@juligraham7319 No Juli, that is what your Church has lied to you, your whole life. The Spirit of the Sabbath commandment is found in the words of Jesus: "I will give you rest", let us be diligent to enter His rest. "I AM The bread of life", "Take and eat, this is My Body", "My Flesh and Blood truly are food and drink", "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you", "If you eat my flesh and drink My blood, I will abide in you". Church and corporate worship was revolved around the Lord's Supper, because the early Church understood that Jesus IS The Sabbath and that day was The Lord's Day. This is historical fact, written by Deacons and Bishops, who knew and learned directly from the Apostles, who learned directly from Jesus Himself. Research it yourself
Show me in the Bible where Jesus said this is a "symbol" of my body and blood?
Jesus said this IS my body and blood. So, you have a choice to either believe Jesus or the lies you've been taught, because it's more comfortable and not offensive.
Jesus said, "does this offend you?". Many of His disciples left Him because they did not believe
@@juligraham7319John 6:53-56
The cycle of the Sabbath is Monthly- New moon to new moon, then 7th day to 7th day....rest days are on the 1st, 8th.15th, 22nd and 29th day of the each Month. Therefore lev 23 can have fixed annual dates without any clash of work days and rest days. (Gen 1:14) And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 2Ki_4:23 And he said, Wherefore wilt thou go to him to day? it is neither new moon, nor sabbath. And she said, It shall be well.
Psa_81:3 Blow up the trumpet in the new moon, in the time appointed, on our solemn feast day.
Isa_66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.
Eze_46:1 Thus saith the Lord GOD; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened.
No such thing as lunar sabbath. That 1st 8th 15th 22nd and 29th day of each month thing is not biblical.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g You only need somebody to help you to read the above simple text. worship is from one newmoon to the next newmoon and from one Sabbath to the next Sabbath. Please put this on a calendar with two colums-rest days and work days. This is the rythym(cycle) of the Sabbath.
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All I need to read is Leviticus 23 where the Bible shows us what days the different sabbaths aftually fall on. Verses 2-3 show us that the weekly sabbath was not on set days of any particular month, it was shown to be on the seventh day of the week. Verses 4 and on show that the annual sabbaths were on set days of a month but not the weekly sabbath.
And since the lunar sabbath theory causes you to set the weekly sabbath on the same set days of every month, it is unbiblical.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g "Verses 2-3 show us that the weekly sabbath was not on set days of any particular month," Sp lev 23 has fixed annual dates without a fixed Calendar? Please show an example of clash for the 10th day of the 1st Month.
@@JustAMessanger-o7g You trying to separate the 7th day Sabbath from the feasts days but the 7th day Sabbath was the major feast day, 4 times Moonthly.You also imply that their was a weekly calendar for the 7th day Sabbath and the other for the eparated feast-(10 Please show an example of a feast day clash with the 7th day Calendar (2) Please show an example of Someebody or anything that counted the 2nd,3rd...7 days week after the 1st week of creation. (3) Are you trying to say that your 7th day Sabbath is not a part of the Monthly Calendar?
Jesus fulfilled the 4th commandment by resting in the grave on the 7th day. Then He fulfilled the feast of first fruits by rising on the first day of the week. The name of Jesus is hallowed, He blessed His body and blood, and we are being sanctified by keeping His body and blood, as He commanded. This is the new covenant, in His blood which He commands. This is what we do on Sundays. Keep His body and blood (The Eucharist), as He commanded us. By doing this, we confess with our mouth His death and resurrection, until He comes again.
This Supper is what He himself did on the first day of the week, when He blessed the bread and broke it with His disciples. By this, He is an example of how His Church worshipped from thence forth. That is why the disciples came together on the first day of the week to break bread. This is the continual practice since the early Church which Jesus Himself started. He is the Sabbath of the new covenant, in His blood and this is what He commands us to keep when we keep His other 9 commandments. This is also what Jesus said to keep in order for Him to abide in us. So if you think you are keeping the commandments without the Lord's Supper, then you ARE keeping the commandments by your OWN WORKS. This is what SDAs do not understand
carnal mind are enmity to the Lord... your statement is just clear that you are making inventions base on your carnal knowledge
@@edmundoucab5196 Jesus said unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you. I believe you are of the carnal mind here
Two misconceptions:
1 Jesus was fulfilling the Sabbath? No, he was fulfilling the law of Moses. There is no such verse stating the abolishing of the 4th commandment and the verse that points to Jesus as our rest does NOT deny the Sabbath.
2 Jesus never said how often should you have the Lord's Supper, it was not specified, but regardless, the SDA keeps that one and only new commandment, so they understand it's a remembrance of His covenant with us.
@@MajorGari SDAs do not understand scripture. Jesus said, I did not come to abolish the law, but to fulfill. He was talking about the 10 commandments as well. Resting on the 7th day in the grave is proof.
He gave us The Lord's Supper in order that He abides in us, as it says in John 6:56. By this, He gives us power to keep the commandments. Without the Lord's Supper we are keeping commandments by our own works, not through Him. See John 6:53-54,57, John 14:15-17
The Lord's Supper is the new covenant and is the new commandment we keep: The covenant in the OT was the ten commandments which Moses said This is the covenant which God Commands. In The NT, The Lord's Supper is the New Covenant which God commands. See And compare Exodus 24:6-8, Hebrews 9:19-20, speaks of the OT covenant which God expected the Hebrews to keep on a regular basis.
Jesus, who is God in the Flesh now says His Blood is the New Covenant. Matthew 26:28. He expects us to keep it on a regular basis. It's the New commandments in which we still keep. The ten Commandments fulfilled in us through Jesus Christ by eating and drinking His flesh and blood. Through Him we are able to keep the commandments by Him in keeping His Supper, which SDAs reject and are like those people in the parable who made excuses why they couldn't come to the Supper.
Many people can keep the 10 commandments easily without the Lords Supper, like the rich young ruler and the Pharasees. But, that's what it means to keep the commandments by your own works. They remove Jesus by not doing what He said, which is "Unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you have no life in you" He also said, after he broke bread and blessed it, and after He blessed the wine: take and EAT, take this and DRINK. This IS my body, This IS my blood
@@jfarrell2772 And once again I will repeat so that you understand: SDA keeps the Holy Supper with the actual 10 commandments. Also, you have can not show a verse denying the keeping of the Sabbath for this day. It's not a matter of understanding, if Jesus Himself did not declare that the Sabbath was not to be kept anymore, then it is still valid, even Paul explains which commandments were fulfilled by the cross, which was the Law of Moses referring to sacrifices. We no longer need to kill a lamb for our sins, for the Perfect Lamb has already been slain, that's the meaning you're refusing to understand.
And another thing to note, is that, yes, the Holy Supper is a Commandment for us to Remember His sacrifice. Perfect. The New Covenant. HOWEVER, the 4th commandment, the Sabbath, refers to an Eternal Covenant, and a Sign between God and His people, a memorial of WHO Created us, also, it was instituted before Sin, not after, therefore, something that was stablished before Sin can not be changed by consequence of it. The Law still remains the same. Sin requires Death, but God in His mercy sent His son to die in our place. A Death still must occur, why? Because the law can NOT be changed. That's the nature of God. If God could Change the Law, there would be no need for Jesus to die. (and yes, He can change, but it would prove that Satan is Right now wouldn't it?)
It is very unfortunate to see us sda pose as bible champions but at the same time we fail to accept some plain bible facts or find impossible to accept this big error that the cycle of Sunday to Saturday is Rome-made and it is not the same cycle from creation and it is always changeable by man- ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html This moderm example brought a great confusion among the sda church when the Rome-made weekly cycle was changed.How could the creator gave the Sabbath without his own international timer? How could the creator gave fixed annual dates without a fixed Calendar? If Rome preserve Sunday or Saturday as the 7th day they have done very well for the world today
Simple. Just follow Jesus example.
(Luke 4:16 KJV) And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
The day Jesus kept is preseved buy the Jews until now.
@@ashersian2563 according to your theory, please give a plain text that says the jews preserve the Sabbath
@@ashersian2563 Since Saturday occur on different dates every Month it cannot be called "the" Sabbath, but "a" Sabbath.
@@ashersian2563 What do you do when this Rome weekly cycle is changed and Saturday is now in the 1st place of the Roman weekly cycle, as in Samoa 2011-2012-ruclips.net/video/NNFY9L25PD8/видео.html
@@mauricecampbell6284 check out what day is kept as the sabbath in Israel now. Its elementary my friend
Christian church doesn’t keep Sunday holy. So your question makes no sense at all, since in the new covenant there are no holy days. Time isn’t holy. A creation (day) isn’t holy. Only God is holy. You’re confusing the day of corporate worship and you think we believe that Sunday is holy. And that’s exactly what I thought about Christians as an Adventist. I was shocked to learn that Sunday isn’t holy, it’s simply a day when they corporately worship. We worship God every single day, on Sundays we gather to do it corporately. Why? Because that’s what the first church did. It was established on a Sunday, and Jesus after his resurrection would meet them on Sundays, week after week, before his ascension. So they just continued to do that. I never saw that in the Bible as an Adventist. Like I had such a thick veil over my eyes, that even the most simple verses I just didn’t see. For example, the verse that says when women met Jesus on the resurrection Sunday, they worshipped him. Why didn’t he say to them it’s bad to worship him on a Sunday? Because it’s not. There’s no single BAD day for worshipping God.
You would be wrong about Sunday not being considered holy by Evangelicals. If they call it the Lord's day, it's considered holy. Second, your talking about CHANGING A COMMANDMENT. That requires a COMMAND from the Lawgiver. Where is that. If Christ was going to make Sunday a rest day in the New Covenant, He would have announced it BEFORE HE SEALED THE NEW COVENANT WITH HIS BLOOD. You can't add anything to a Covenant once it's been sealed. Sunday is a fraud.
@@danielcristancho3524 Wait what??? No, we evangelicals don’t consider it holy. Being a Lords day doesn’t mean the 24 hours are literally holy.
And where did I ever say that commandment was changed???? I didn’t say it was changed. We are not under the mosaic covenant. Exodus 34:28 says the 10 commandments ARE the words of the mosaic covenant. Galatians 3 makes it clear, that covenant lasted till Jesus. We are under the new covenant. In the new covenant there are no holy days!
@@life.after.adventismthen, keep the 7th day holy. 🙏🏻
@@juligraham7319 Show me from the Bible that Christians under the new covenant are to keep it, and I will
@@life.after.adventism the Bible defines what the new covenant is. The law is still central to the covenant. But now with Jesus” blood instead of the blood of animals.
Jeremiah 33
31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a NEW covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Hebrews 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Hebrews 10:16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
SDAs keep the 10 commandments like the way they did in the Old Testament. As long as they keep the 7th day Sabbath. You don't understand what it means to keep the Spirit of the 10 commandments. Jesus says, you will not enter heaven, unless your holiness EXCEEDS that of the Pharasees. If you hate your fellow Catholic, you are guilty of murder. If you lust after a woman, you are guilty of adultery. Why don't you apply that to the Sabbath?
Jesus said HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT, in John 6, when He spoke of eating His flesh and drinking His blood, and at His Supper. His words blessed, hallowed and sanctified Himself, in the New Testament. SDAs are still in the old testament, and are not keeping the 10 commandments the way Jesus told us to. Have you ever hated? Then you're a murderer. Are you not believing in and keeping the Lord's Supper, the way Jesus said?? Then you're breaking the Sabbath!
Holy Spirit, make them see. Open the eyes of the blind. Amen
You are very confused, my friend.
@@billhendricks5375Then I guess Jesus was confused, because everything I said was basically quotes from Jesus