Btw, it is not a hermeneutical error to read a later chapter into an earlier one, for example Revelation 12:17 - “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST.” We have no idea what the testimony of Jesus Christ is until we get to Revelation 19:10 “And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” In this case, you have to read a later chapter into the earlier one to understand its meaning
It's not cuz Revelation would be guilty of that, the Bible is full of Chiasm and its intended to be read line upon line, precept on precept and here a little and there a little, cuz the whole Bible has to be read, and its an example to show that, the Bible circles back and its complete and goes and comes back and meets at the end and continues without contradiction but marry perfectly each letter, jot and tittle
Correct it's called the chiastic structure; there were no chapters and verses in the original text, so the entire context is given by the book as a whole.
The idea that you cannot "read a later chapter into an earlier chapter" is ridiculous. It's not like the writer of a book was developing his understanding as he was writing, such that his beliefs changed the more chapters he wrote. Rather the writer knew what beliefs that he wanted to express before he even started to write a single chapter and those beliefs remain consistent between chapters. If we want to understand what the beliefs that the author is trying to explain, we have to avoid relying on our own assumptions as much as possible, so when a text is ambiguous (i.e. it can be interpreted in more than one way if evaluated in isolation) then it would be better to look at relevant passages (regardless of whether they are in the same chapter or in a later or earlier chapter) so that we can narrow down the possible meaning of the verse in question by including the other assumptions that the author held, rather than to make assumptions of our own that are in harmony with our beliefs but not necessarily with the beliefs the author was trying to express.
Apparently Myles is unaware that chapters and verses did not exist in the original text. In other words, anytime you quote a verse, the full weight of the book has to be behind it.
Funny thing is, we do that with every other book. We learn to question why the curtain is blue and look for metaphors, etc. and connect them with other chapters. So why can't we do the same with the scriptures? It's a deceptive, feeling guided belief.
@@FishermensCorner Is this all in line with John 5:39 and John 16:13? The Holy Spirit, not methods, leads us into all truth-to see Jesus, of whom the Scripture testifies. The Holy Spirit. Not a modern “prophet”.
@jeanclaude7018 Be careful you don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit by ascribing His work to the work of flawed men! The Spirit of God led me to eschew false, unbiblical ideas and stick to the Bible and what it teaches about Jesus.
I absolutely believe ADS is real - Adventist Derangement Syndrome. I've witnessed it since I was a kid. Tons of people simply hate us SDA, even if we prove from the Bible until we are blue in the face that what we teach IS biblical.
@@StudioDawne Well actually the issue is the different ways of interpreting the Bible. The SDA's do not own the franchise rights to Biblical Truth. All the SDA's have got their own and sometimes unique interpretations of Scripture which many other denominations hotly dispute. Basically all the SDA's have got is their opinions of Scripture and nothing else.
This particular video seems to have really upset the critics. I wonder why they focus so much of their attention and energy on something they think is false.
I have a bit more charitable view of why Myles ignores part of the evidence. When you like a certain interpretation, it is very easy to ignore any evidence that doesn't get you that interpretation.
@jeanclaude7018 Possibly. I do think he has particular beliefs. It would seem that he does entertain guests who hold a very different set of beliefs if they are also "answering Adventism" in some way.
@@andresomerville4896 Sure, I have a half a shelf of critics' book. But I also like a careful ally. You get helpful feedback without wading through false assumptions.
He's a former Adventist and his dad is an Adventist pastor. I've seen this phenomenon with people who leave Christianity, and become essentially atheist apologists. People tend to be very unwilling to accept evidence that the worldview they rejected was actually true.
Miles is just an SDA basher who has no interest in learning or changing. It truly is sad seeing someone completely reject the truth and not realize how blind they are.
@jeanclaude7018. It’s truly sad and astonishing how many texts and things these critics like him and Colleen Tinker carelessly or boldly, blatantly, and willfully overlook and how many false and unwarranted assumptions they make as a result.
@@AighEnoughAlreadyso why don't you pull out your Bible and prove her wrong. Your grandstanding behind speaking points but you don't have anything from Bible.
@jeanclaude7018 LOL. Well, sadly the number’s growing these days due to social media. Interesting observation, SHAM… She and her husband took Dale Ratzlaff’s place as directors of his anti-SDA/pro former SDA ministry, Life Assurance Ministries. Their channel is formeradventist.
@jeanclaude7018 James Barber is non-denominational and does not believe in Sunday Sabbth keeping. Unlike Myles who believes in Sunday Sacredness, So no - he is not his mentor and he is also not evil for believing in the Bible - Just like ADL are not evil for believing in Adventism.
@jeanclaude7018 Baber is 100% about the so called 3 angels gospel. Revelation is true - but there are more than 3 angels in Rev 14 and the SDA interpretation via EGW is not a new gospel like you teach it is.
Yes but sentences still appear in a given order and introduce chunks of ideas in paragraphs. The numbered verses and chapters are a guideline for finding that structure.
@@chowman007the same sort of thing as SDA does with Jesus Christ. They've got 2 atonements an the devil carries the sin. ..But if you ask them they'll say that's not the case! no different than the Democrats.!
@@jimbob1644 and, in the end... you will be deceived by the Antichrist if you keep believing like that... This is why we lift up our voices to proclaim the truth, otherwise, you will be deceived by Satan, that you're believin is Jesus in Lev 16.
*Practically all Christians recognize the significance of the Bible to their faith.* - *Yet many Christians misrepresent and misapply Scripture frequently.* - *Often those who are most zealous about the authority of the Bible are at the greatest loss when it comes to understanding its message clearly and applying it faithfully.* *Misrepresenting Scripture calls into question both the easy assumption of the Reformed emphasis on the perspicuity of Scripture,*- *and the presumption that those who declare the Bible to be the infallible or even inerrant Word of God will agree about what it teaches and illustrates.* - *What it proves instead is that 'rightly dividing the word of truth’ can at best be a difficult and contentious matter;* - *A MATTER DEMANDING CLOSE ATTENTION TO HISTORICAL, LITERARY AND THEOLOGICAL CONTEXT; INTENTION; AND EVEN THE NATURE OF LANGUAGE ITSELF.* - *Abusing Scripture offers a taxonomy of ways many are guilty of doing violence to Scripture.* *Most people are unaware that when the books of the Bible were originally written, they did not contain chapter or verse references.* - *Each book was a continuous narrative.* *While we can thank God for the chapter divisions, there are issues with some divisions because the break from chapter to chapter often leaves the reader with the impression that a new thought or idea is being introduced just as occurs in English books and articles.* - *The first English Bible that contained both chapters and verses was the Geneva Bible, published in 1557.* *The scriptures form a seamless structure of truths, even though the truths were given in different places and different dispensations.* - *Clustering scriptures together is important to improve understanding.* - *Scriptures interpret scriptures.* *The Bible is a work of literature. Literature comes in different genres, or categories based on style, and each is read and appreciated differently from another.* *“Sometimes I fear that we teach the scriptures in isolation from each other, when in fact, if you will make multiple use of them and follow this clustering method, you will not only make the teaching moment more significant but you will also be witnessing to the congruency and relevance of all the scriptures. You will find, as one would expect, a powerful conceptual consistency that flows throughout all the scriptures, sometimes even verbatim language, because they come from the same source”* (“The Old Testament: Relevancy Within Antiquity,” A Symposium on the Old Testament, 8-9). *Therefore, accurate exegesis and interpretation takes into consideration the purpose and style of a given book or passage of Scripture.* - *In addition, some verses are meant figuratively, and proper discernment of these is enhanced by an understanding of genre.* - *An inability to identify genre can lead to serious misunderstanding of Scripture.* - *The main genres found in the Bible are law, history, wisdom, poetry, narrative, epistles, prophecy and apocalyptic literature.* - *Pretty much all Biblical writers wrote in typically figurative language, especially the ones writing in Hebrew, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t to be understood as factual.* *Bible Prophecy follows the repeat and enlarge principle in which scripture repeats the prophecy of Daniel chapter 2 in chapters seven, eight and eleven, adding more detail in the process.* - *Chapters 10, 11 and 12 thus continue the narrative we find in chapters 2, 7 and 8 in the book of Daniel, and in the same way that the story was developed further in chapters 7 and 8, and continues to develop here in chapter 11 as well, and we get new and more detailed information.* *Unlocking Daniel’s symbols makes the prophecies of Revelation become so much clearer.* *Example:* - *The little horn of Daniel 8 has the same characteristics as the dragon of Rev 12...* *1.* Both said to be "great" [Dan 8:10; Rev 12:3] *2.* Both cast down some of the stars to the ground [Dan 8:10; Rev 12:4] *3.* Both attacked Jesus [Dan 8:11, 25; Rev 12:4-5] *4.* Both attacked God's people [Dan 8:24; Rev 12:13] *5.* Both exist at the end of the world [Dan 8:18, 25; Rev 12:17] *All these powers literally attempted to kill baby Jesus [Rev 12:4]*
These critics have no interest in the TRUTH, no matter how much BIBLICAL TRUTH you throw at them. It seems that these critics are operating under a DEMONIC SPIRIT. All TRUE BELIEVERS have to PRAY for these individuals. LORD please have MERCY on all of us.
Burrells parting shot of "can't tow with Adventists on the Bible basis but other things like 1844 and EWG" it reminded me of the plot against Daniel and Jesus when they could find any fault in him in the civil law now they went to the first part of the law of God. Its a devils tactic problem is, he always loses.
ADL, please do a series on the book of Galatians and please expound on these verses in context of the SDA message-“I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9
I am about 9 minutes into this and Andrew is comparing Trump Derangement Syndrome with some Former Adventists about Adventists. I agree in that some former Adventists cannot tolerate anything positive being said about Adventists. There is as much illogical rage against Adventism as some people have against former president, Donald Trump. That is unfortunate. But I have encountered, many times, Adventist who have Catholic Derangement Syndrome, where everything Catholics is suspect and terrifying for them. Nothing positive can be said. Often when I tell Adventists that Catholics (many Catholics) ATTEND church on the 7th day, they refuse to respond or believe it. They discount it with: If Catholics are going to church on the Sabbath, it can't count for them in heaven because they don't have the right attitude...or something to that effect. This derangement syndrome is probably present within all people when they encounter someone they don't want to trust or give them benefit of the doubt. It's like Christians must have a bad guy. Which is truly the very opposite of Jesus told us to do.
I don’t think you’re wrong. From personal experience I have noticed that there is mass on Saturdays but not on Sabbath. Typically services are held at evening, and depending on the time of season, it may or may not be during Sabbath hours. Furthermore, also from personal experience, those who attend Saturday mass go because they cannot attend on Sunday. I’m not saying that’s always the case, but the church believes that it transferred the Sabbath to Sunday. My personal experience may be taken with a grain of salt, but that’s all the cases I’ve witnessed firsthand.
@@TheSchoolofEden-vt3ho There are Catholic churches that have mass on Saturday morning. Most have them Saturday afternoon, but before sundown most of the year. I have found most Catholics that do attend on the 7th day do so because they have a kid's sports games they want to go to on Sunday or just want to have a day to rest (not have to rush to church) which is ironic. A fourth to a third of US Catholics attend church on the 7th day--which makes at the very least 6 million.
But see, again, you are discounting the fact that many Catholics attend worship services on the 7th day. I would think that would be a wonderful surprise for Adventists if the last day test was about a day of worship. And if that day is the 7th day.
@@arthurandteresabeem7142 I’m don’t think I’m discounting it. I think you acknowledged that most Catholics don’t do it for the sake of Sabbath keeping, but more so for convenience. Sabbath keeping also isn’t just going to church on that day. It’s a period from Friday Sundown to Saturday Sundown that is Holy unto the Lord that is dedicated to God. The question would be, are they keeping Sabbath as outlined in the Bible? That is, preparing food on Friday, not doing our own pleasure on that day, not shopping or buying things, attending Church, engaging in ministry work, etc. If we’re being honest to ourselves, 99.99% of them are not doing that. If Sabbath keeping was merely attending church, then I wouldn’t disagree with you.
Why is it they want respect and they get to finish... but yet they always interrupt and are so rude... that makes me so upset and sad the way they act pray for all of them critics 😢
Miles? The guy is just fishing and hasnt gotten anything since he entered the water. He is consistent though; lying. Try to square any of his so-called evidence, you can find out all of them are just misinterpretations. I know because I tried him multiple times. There is no truth in him, the guy is literally sleeping on lies.
What makes me laugh is that when Sam was on n Myles livestream San thought we believed the soul/spirit/breath ceased to exist and Myles KNOWING that we don’t believe that kept his mouth shut.
@@KayinPhylosophy4250We don’t believe that? Since when? Please explain. How don’t we, if we believe the soul/spirit isn’t immortal and that our breath returns to God?
@@AighEnoughAlready context friend, I’m referring to when we die of natural causes or diseases/accidents and whatnot. Not the second death on judgment day, obviously the soul gets destroyed Matt 10-28 “And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Another double standard I “love” is when we bring up a point, the critic wants a verse that specifically mentions what is being said. We are not allowed to reason things or compare verses, “you need a verse” they say. But when we ask them for one, they do exactly what they told us not to do. They will wax poetic and have a long drawn out response citing multiple verses or chapters. It is insane. 😂
When you watch how he tries to explain the new creation and Sunday as the new sabbath he literally does exactly what he said Adventist can’t do lol crazy
Why does Myles seem not to have a peaceful persona? There is an un-easy gasp that he makes after some of his comments. I don't know If he truly believes most of the arguments that he is proposing. There is something in his past that triggered something in his mind against Adventist that has put a bitter gall in his mind that he just will not let go. There have been preachers of righteousness down through time that have endured this type of criticism that is coming from Myles. This is nothing new. I am curious to know what relationship that Myles has with his father that is a preacher in Adventism. Does he consider his father to be a heretic and as deluded, as he thinks the rest of Adventist are? As I listen to the back and forth, point vs counterpoint and the uneasiness of Myles and those who are like minded who exemplify the same exalted censoring spirit. I see that this battle of words is actually a battle of the worlds, the existing world and the world to come. There is an intense struggle between spiritual issues and spiritual wickedness in high places. It is plain that spirits are involved here. The spirits that are animating these conversations are making themselves Known.
This is hilarious they use an old video and no matter how hard they try it just makes them look bad. Myles doesn’t attack the people he’s always clear about that-it’s the system.
Myles doesn't attack people? You haven't been paying attention buddy. Watch his video about his email exchanges with Edwin so you see how he attacked and insulted him.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueSuppose you're like Alexander the Coppersmith. Myles attacks falsehood. People who love falsehood and refuse to give up the false prophet feel attacked. I emailed you all to discuss your beliefs with another “critic.” I was cordial in my email. Let me know when you're ready to sit down with another Christian (or a Christian, period) and let the Holy Spirit lead-not through us but through the Bible, through Jesus via the Holy Spirit (see John 16:13).
ADL, please do a series on the book of Galatians and please expound on these verses in context of the SDA message-“I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:6-9
@@AdventDefenseLeague I do notice Myles like all of us can get emotional sure. Why does EGW contradict Gods Word by saying “he reverently passed between the parts of the sacrifice” God said that He put Abram in a deep sleep and passed through HIMSELF Hebrews 6:13 Genesis 15:17. Ellen White in Patriarchs and Prophets page 11 says Abram passed between making solemn vow with God. This is a contradiction of Gods Holy Word. This sets people up to have a man centred focus all through the whole of Scripture. Without the fundamental principle of understanding that God is setting up a Biblical principle showing us man cannot keep a covenant with Holy God so He kept it FOR US…we will end up putting the focus on self. Hebrews 6:13 Genesis 15:17 Genesis 22:8 Hebrews 1:3. EGW said Abram passed between the sacrifice God said He passed through HIMSELF. Who should we trust and obey ADL?
Many, if not most, SDA have never read the chapter on the investigative judgment in GREAT CONTROVERSY. FANATICISM (ROM 10:2) is epidemic in SDA denomination!
Line upon Line Precepts upon Precepts. In order to know the Bible, you must study the Bible. take a day for a year in prophecy Ezekiel 4:5-6 compared to Luke 13:32 very interesting this compresence is quoted directly from the Saviors mouth both times. Investigative Judgement Romans 14:10-12 mic drop!!!
@@andresomerville4896 Read Daniel 9:27 then read Luke13:32 then you will see. Notice what Jesus says at the end. And on the third day I shall be perfected. Jesus is referring to His crucifixion. in Daniel 9:27 we see Jesus confirm a covenant for a week (7 years) but in the midst of the week (3.5 years) He does away with the daily sacrifice's aka Mosaic law which is nailed to the cross. So, in Luke 13:32 we see Jesus has already been doing His ministries for at least 6 months. And we know this by the phrasing of His last words in Luke13:32. Hope that helped blessings and prayer.
@@andresomerville4896 God is a reveler not a concealer. Amen, this also may interest you read Daniel 9:27 and compare it with Matthew 18:22. Let me know what the Spirit reveals to you.
@@michaelschneider4082Jesus told them to forgive 70 x 7 times. In the midst of the 7 days during the 70 weeks Jesus makes the ultimate sacrifice for our forgiveness. Dan 7: 24,27 "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy holy city...and He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" This is a clever mnemonic for remembering the time prophecy in Daniel 9.
The very reason you exist is you didn't read (anything in context )in Daniel 8 and created the second lie.. after the lie of Miller!.. you doubled down and made three it times worse .. and to this day. you can't interpret Daniel 8 !..,an the meaning of Daniel 8:13 and 14 which creates a lie destroying Jesus Christ!
The Adventist dissonance is so great. For many year Egwhite has left a bad taste in my mouth. Because i have discovered many of what she has claimed to be prophetic ---is a Lie. Her own works reveals her falsehood. She says all sorts spurious non biblical things, but according to adventism all those who opposed or form an opinion against her foolishness is an apostate.
“You cannot read a later chapter back into a different chapter” What? Since when? Isaiah 65:17 and 66:22 says “a new heaven and new earth”. That phrase is never mentioned prior to Isaiah 65. So how does Myles explain what the new heaven and new earth in Isaiah is talking about? 😂
I like that Jason likes the KJV. I do too. I think the KJV is the most pure version of the Bible. Additionally, I believe that it makes people dig deeper and study the Bible more. People can understand Macbeth and all of these other King’s English literature but can’t understand the Bible. SMH! Stay strong Jason, KJV!😁
@@MarkChupp-j5i Daniel 9:27 Wycliffe Bible 27 Forsooth one week of years shall confirm the covenant to many men, and the offering and sacrifice shall fail in the midst of the week of years; and abomination of desolation shall be in the temple, and the desolation shall continue till to the performing and end. (And one week of years shall confirm the covenant to many people, and the offering and the sacrifice shall be stopped in the midst of the week of years; and the abomination that maketh desolation shall be placed in the Temple, and the desolation shall continue until the performing and the end of it.) Is the difference you are referring to about the week of years? Years was italicized, showing that it was the translator's supplied word.
"It must be wrong some way.." ....(because it is )..and you will never address Daniel 8 an what Daniel 814 is (actually) saying! You just keep on running on like as if you're somewhere you're not! What you did with Daniel 8:14 was destroy what Jesus Christ did at the cross!.
ABOUT ELLEN G WHITE: Where in Joel 2 does it say ONE prophet arises in ONE denominational group? Joel 2 shows that there should be multiple people to whom this gift should be poured. Where in the text does it say that prophesying meant reinterpreting the Bible? Here is the Joel 2 passage (show me a singular prophet working by herself and isolated from what the text teaches, and then we can accept EGW)- “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon ALL flesh; and your SONS and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, your old MEN shall dream dreams, your young MEN shall see visions: and also upon the servants and upon the HANDMAIDS in those days will I pour out my spirit.” Joel 2:28-29 KJV The Bible teaches that the prophetic gift would be POURED ON MULTIPLE people when it happens, as we also saw in Acts 2. “But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: For THESE are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet JOEL; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon ALL flesh: And your SONS and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, And your young MEN shall see visions, And your old MEN shall dream dreams: And on my SERVANTS and on my HANDMAIDENS I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:” Acts 2:14-18 KJV Since Joel was a true prophet and spoke from and for God, we expect his prophecy to be fulfilled word for word, as in Acts. That didn't happen with EGW. Produce the others that Joel mentioned-Joel didn't say ONE prophet.
And neither do we say "one" prophet. SDAs believe multiple individuals experienced the gift of prophecy during her times, and we also believe this will continue to happen until Jesus returns. Now you can believe :)
@@AdventDefenseLeagueProduce an Ellen G White contemporary counterpart besides Joseph Smith. Produce another SDA prophet like Ellen G White-contemporary with her. Then I reconsider the issue.
@Bredrin90 sure, the gift of prophecy was manifested among two other individuals called Hazen Foss and William Foy. Here's a link: lineagejourney.com/read/hazen-foss-and-william-foy-faithful-and-unfaithful/ There were others as well. For example, EJ Waggoner was said to have experienced a vision of the cross during a camp meeting, Hiram Edson saw a vision of Christ in the Heavenly Sanctuary while walking in a cornfield after the disappointment, and many others. Typically, critics simply mock these individuals just because they disagree with their doctrine. Joseph Smith was not a prophet because, although he claimed the gift of prophecy, he did not keep or teach in keeping the commandments of God. Recall that there are three qualifiers for the last days, keeping the commandments, having the faith of Christ, AND having the testimony of Jesus, which is the gift of prophecy (Rev. 12:17, 14:12, 19:10). So, he fails the tests. Ok, now that I've provided the evidence, you may now believe.
@@AdventDefenseLeague Yep-and ELLEN G WHITE in typical Darwinian fashion outdid the others! Bro, that's not hoe Biblical prophetic office works. The prophets actually work together and are not subsuming each other. Show me the voluminous writings of those other prophets. I mean Jeremiah and Isaiah and Ezekiel never subsumed each other! Ellen White even attempted to subsume Jesus in her recasting of Hebrews 1:1-2. Consider this: “LONG AGO, at many times and in many ways, GOD SPOKE to our fathers BY THE PROPHETS, BUT IN THESE LAST DAYS HE HAS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.” Hebrews 1:1-2 ESV and compare it to this and see if someone isn’t trying to rewrite (add to) Hebrews 1:1-2- “IN ANCIENT TIMES GOD SPOKE to men by the mouth of PROPHETS and apostles. IN THESE DAYS HE SPEAKS to them THE TESTIMONIES of His Spirit. There was never a time when God instructed His people more earnestly than He instructs them now concerning His will and the course that He would have them pursue” (Ellen G White, CCh 91.2).
The way you verify that you have destroyed Daniel 8. And the meaning of it ..is read the Wycliffe Bible on Daniel 9:27.. the last four lines (what's being placed in that place after the sanctuary is stopped.. ? You get that correct and you'll know that what you're in can't be from the Bible!!
The issue isn’t with the fourth command, Christians don’t have an issue with observing the sabbath in a way that’s meaningful to themselves. The issue is when you make an issue of worship on days other than the Sabbath. What’s the issue of firsts day commemoration of the resurrection or of Pentecost. Seems SDAs are the ones who are judgmental on this issue.
SDAs don't have an issue with worshipping any day of the week. They hold evangelistic meetings and week of prayers for every day of the week. SDAs preach to keep the Commandments of God including the one that must Christians break.
@@skywalker6940 read what EGW said about evangelism on Sunday. The issue is when you don't keep the Sabbath Holy. What people do the other 6 working days, as long as it doesn't include sin, is up to them.
@@skywalker6940 what does the Bible say? Sunday is one of the 6 working days according to Ezekiel 46:1. You may do as you desire the 6 working days. Just don't sin. Keep the Sabbath Holy as God says. But instead of asking me what is acceptable, seek to follow the Bible.
Anthony's you still haven't shown me where sins going to a sanctuary. ?This is what Got.(created in Daniel 814) and you won't tell me what Daniel 8 is saying. !To make it match the levitical sanctuary! because it's got nothing to do with it!. I'm still waiting on you to respond to those two questions. !What's being placed in Daniel 9:27.? In the last four lines of the Wycliffe Bible. ?(You get that correct. )..and you're going to realize Daniel 8:14 hasn't happened yet!
A book you might want to read is by Dr. Alberto R. Treiyer- The Day of Atonement and the Heavenly Judgment, its 687 pages. but well worth reading. Also the book - The Sanctuary and the Atonement, ed. by Frank B. Holbrook
@@billhendricks5375 I already did!( read the book it's Danielle 8)! it's Danielle 9 it's Danielle 11 Daniel 12 and what Jesus told me to (understand in Matthew 24:15)! which is something you have never done!
@@JamieElison Your not afraid to read something are you ? Especially if it would help in your understanding SDA theology, which is obvious you do not have a clear understanding of, other wise you would not make the false statements that you make.
@@billhendricks5375 no.. I'm not afraid to read it (Jesus told me not to read it)!. So I listen to Jesus Christ.. something you don't do! with Matthew 24:15 !!when are you going to do that. ?Until you do.. you're never going to be saved.. do you realize what I just said? salvation is the only way that you're ever going to meet the( real Jesus). and you haven't met the real Jesus yet !and you're promoting me to go where you're at.( I already know what you believe better than you do yourself!) So when are you going to listen to Jesus in Matthew 24:15? and( do what he told you to do?)
@@JamieElison It shows a great deal that you have no idea what SDAs believe. So please don't tell me you know more than I do, because as I stated, you would not be making the false statements that you make. Because if you had read any SDA material, you would clearly see we except Jesus as our Savior.
ADL, I responded to your ad about coming on your program to speak (as a Christian) from the topics your ad suggested. I'm still waiting for a response. I also encouraged us to let the Holy Spirit guide us into all truth through the Bible (see John 16:13). I'm still waiting to sit and talk about Jesus-the Jesus of the Bible-with the leading of the Holy Spirit. Let me know if you received my email. Cris Wellington.
Myles is just wanting attention.. if you watch his videos carefully you can see he doesn't understand the SDA doctrine. His videos seems like a personal vendata w his dad or the church.
He doesn't realize what he's in SDA.. only he was a member most of his life until 10 years ago. He went to your colleges. So what's being placed in Daniel 9:27 (the last four Lines.? read it in the Wycliffe Bible what is being placed in the sanctuary after the daily sacrifices stopped the same as Daniel 8 Daniel 11 and Daniel 12! As Jesus Christ told you to understand in Matthew 24: 15!!. Are you going to listen to Jesus or your false prophet!...You want the truth you're going to have the truth for the first time in your life! Providing you do what Jesus tells you to do!
@@jimbob1644 he was a SDA until he was 19 where he left the church (if you dont believee watch his videos,). Now he was also a SDA pastor kid. Does this make him more knowledgeable of the SDA doctrine? No. Love it when they say SDAs have a "false Prophet" "false doctrine" and a "false God".. thats their "best," arguments hahaha
you just repeated what was told to you..but miles come to know the truth.. something you still haven't learned. Until you know what Jesus did at the cross and what Daniel 8:14 says in the context of Daniel 8 your lost
@@MarkChupp-j5i i did not repeat what "was told to me." i Clarified that he left church young and he never learned the Doctrine. furthermore, what makes you think he knows the truth? lol! that's your opinion based on what? I know what Jesus came to do for me on the Cross, not sure what makes you think SDAs don't know that, but either way. your comments as with most of the people are baseless.
Eisegesis rules Adventism. Facts are very stubborn. Adventism is not a cult in my view, but very dishonest in some theological issues. The first to state his case seems right, until another comes and cross examines him. Proverbs 18:17 BSB. Right now, Adventism is being crossed examined, and we are being found wanting in certain cases. The church isn't all wrong, but we're also not all right. The true bible scholars of Adventism know for a FACT that there are serious issues with certain doctrinal positions of the church, and also with Ellen White. I believe in her Ministry, just not in the way some have over exalted her to a dangerous place where Christ alone must stand and have ignored things she wrote which have been proven to be problematic. I'm not putting down the church because I remain a SDA until the Lord shows me otherwise; but I rather be scorned and demonized for honesty and theological truthfulness, than to be adored and admired for ignoring all that has been proven to be wrong, yet defending and holding on to such, doing theological gymnastics, and twisting the word for beliefs to fit, just to maintain a false idea of some special uniqueness. Theological honesty and integrity are greatly lacking amongst us as a people. I agree with Ellen White 100% when she said: We have many lessons to learn, and many many to unlearn. God and Heaven alone are infallible. The Review and Herald July 26, 1892. { 1SM 37.3 }. There's absolutely no perfect church on earth, but we can choose to reject spiritual pride and just be HONEST. That said, I pray that God will continue to bless you guys greatly...
Wow. Did the pastor just compared us to Trump. We are right almost always, our fruits are reflective of who we are. Trump on the other hand is wrong almost always. His fruits shows he is of the worst kind of human being to ever walk this earth. Don't lose credibility so early in this noble mission.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueWhat a sad response to an honest criticism-” feel free not to watch”? In over 30 years of my SDAsm, I learned that “the SDA Church is always right. And other churches are always wrong.” What a Roman Catholic principle-so much in common with SDAsm. No wonder they are enemies. It’s like two adulterous women-fighting for a Husband they are not rightly connected to. But Christ does have a Bride-invisible though she may be, with the faithful, and yes, some are SDAs, some are Catholics, some are Presbyterians and many others. All despite the imperfections of denominations. Well, unless you’re an SDA with no imperfection in your system?
@@AdventDefenseLeague have you read a theological paper written by Dr Richard Davidson from Andrews University on Hebrews 6:19-20? Destroys Ford and Kettleson. Entitled "Christ's Entry within the veil in "Hebrews 6:19-20: The Old Testament Background." October 2001. Digital Commons Andrews University You should do a presentation on it.
I just came across a podcast from an Ex Advenstist that says "Does Adventism use mind control" ruclips.net/video/lVHEthVV-_o/видео.html Whe you think you have seen and heard everything lololol
📯🕒⏳⌛🤍; JESUS CHRIST SAYS } KJVB John 5: 39,40 } search The Scriptures for They testify of ME = Genesis To Revelation . If you love your neighbor you warn } KJVB Ezekiel 3: 17-21 (*9: 4) , 33: 1-9)
@@thatnicekid04 Myles has 3.5 hour videos using many scriptures in context. You bear false witness. I’m listening to Myles right now. Here’s Adventist heretic E.J. Waggoner from Signs of the Times April 8, 1889- “ While both are of the same nature, the Father is first in point of time. He is also greater in that he had no beginning, while Christ’s personality had a beginning.” Waggoner was a blasphemous heretic. Adventists have bad Christology. You can’t be a Christian with the wrong Christ.
@@rayray4192 okay. The SDA Church believes that Jesus has no beginning today. It is well known in Adventism that pioneers thought differently. Why is this something to consider? Doesn't anti sda stuff get boring after a while? Myles has to keep his channel alive with pointless information I guess.
@@thatnicekid04 Adventists are tri- theists. You are a liar. The heavenly trio United in purpose is not the Trinity. Three co eternal beings is not the Trinity. Myles is far from boring. You suck.
@@rayray4192are you Myles's parrot? You have mastered repeating word for word what he says. His claims mean nothing. He has been debunked too many times to be taken seriously at this point. But you keep supporting him. He needs to keep his channel going. Your support helps him a lot.
@@xintimidate ; When a "pastor" and four brothers in ALMIGHTY MAJESTY CREATOR INFALLIBLE AUTHORITY GOD JESUS CHRIST WORD ALONE stup to use a worldly person, instead of GOD'S WORD ALONE to make a point, immediately move those who are seeking or are babes in JESUS CHRIST back to "worldly" and that "pastor" should know that
@@xintimidate ; if anyone puts a stumbling block in front of anyone, they Will be held accountable for it . I'm not trying to hurt anyone; I'm trying to help this team to understand that they're under extreme watchful eyes from those that are trying to destroy GOD'S WORD ALONE; that GOD Has seen fit to use these gentlemen for HIS purposes, that, that must be forever, the First Scripture pray though deed in their restoring The Straight TRUTH
Btw, it is not a hermeneutical error to read a later chapter into an earlier one, for example
Revelation 12:17 - “And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST.”
We have no idea what the testimony of Jesus Christ is until we get to Revelation 19:10
“And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
In this case, you have to read a later chapter into the earlier one to understand its meaning
It's not cuz Revelation would be guilty of that, the Bible is full of Chiasm and its intended to be read line upon line, precept on precept and here a little and there a little, cuz the whole Bible has to be read, and its an example to show that, the Bible circles back and its complete and goes and comes back and meets at the end and continues without contradiction but marry perfectly each letter, jot and tittle
Correct it's called the chiastic structure; there were no chapters and verses in the original text, so the entire context is given by the book as a whole.
I truly thank the Lord for this.Thank you ADL.Thank you Pastor.Myles and the other critics should know.The truth always wins.Always.
Good point. There you go.
The idea that you cannot "read a later chapter into an earlier chapter" is ridiculous. It's not like the writer of a book was developing his understanding as he was writing, such that his beliefs changed the more chapters he wrote. Rather the writer knew what beliefs that he wanted to express before he even started to write a single chapter and those beliefs remain consistent between chapters. If we want to understand what the beliefs that the author is trying to explain, we have to avoid relying on our own assumptions as much as possible, so when a text is ambiguous (i.e. it can be interpreted in more than one way if evaluated in isolation) then it would be better to look at relevant passages (regardless of whether they are in the same chapter or in a later or earlier chapter) so that we can narrow down the possible meaning of the verse in question by including the other assumptions that the author held, rather than to make assumptions of our own that are in harmony with our beliefs but not necessarily with the beliefs the author was trying to express.
Apparently Myles is unaware that chapters and verses did not exist in the original text. In other words, anytime you quote a verse, the full weight of the book has to be behind it.
So true
Funny thing is, we do that with every other book. We learn to question why the curtain is blue and look for metaphors, etc. and connect them with other chapters. So why can't we do the same with the scriptures? It's a deceptive, feeling guided belief.
@@FishermensCorner Is this all in line with John 5:39 and John 16:13? The Holy Spirit, not methods, leads us into all truth-to see Jesus, of whom the Scripture testifies. The Holy Spirit. Not a modern “prophet”.
@Bredrin90 the holy spirit moves people you know...
@jeanclaude7018 Be careful you don't blaspheme the Holy Spirit by ascribing His work to the work of flawed men! The Spirit of God led me to eschew false, unbiblical ideas and stick to the Bible and what it teaches about Jesus.
I absolutely believe ADS is real - Adventist Derangement Syndrome. I've witnessed it since I was a kid. Tons of people simply hate us SDA, even if we prove from the Bible until we are blue in the face that what we teach IS biblical.
@jeanclaude7018 Mystery of mysteries, that.
@@StudioDawne Well actually the issue is the different ways of interpreting the Bible.
The SDA's do not own the franchise rights to Biblical Truth. All the SDA's have got their own and sometimes unique interpretations of Scripture which many other denominations hotly dispute.
Basically all the SDA's have got is their opinions of Scripture and nothing else.
Miles should change his names to millimeters because he ain't going the distance.
This particular video seems to have really upset the critics. I wonder why they focus so much of their attention and energy on something they think is false.
You are not the only one my friend! 😂
I have a bit more charitable view of why Myles ignores part of the evidence. When you like a certain interpretation, it is very easy to ignore any evidence that doesn't get you that interpretation.
@jeanclaude7018 Possibly. I do think he has particular beliefs. It would seem that he does entertain guests who hold a very different set of beliefs if they are also "answering Adventism" in some way.
That's why I value critics. They force me to examine my beleifs from and outside perspective.
@@andresomerville4896 Sure, I have a half a shelf of critics' book. But I also like a careful ally. You get helpful feedback without wading through false assumptions.
@@kevinmorgan_truth a balanced approach
He's a former Adventist and his dad is an Adventist pastor. I've seen this phenomenon with people who leave Christianity, and become essentially atheist apologists. People tend to be very unwilling to accept evidence that the worldview they rejected was actually true.
Verse for verse, text for text lets go! 🙏🏽📖🔥✍️🏽
Myles's jumbled theological view is the poster child of Babylonian theology.
Miles is just an SDA basher who has no interest in learning or changing. It truly is sad seeing someone completely reject the truth and not realize how blind they are.
@jeanclaude7018. It’s truly sad and astonishing how many texts and things these critics like him and Colleen Tinker carelessly or boldly, blatantly, and willfully overlook and how many false and unwarranted assumptions they make as a result.
@@AighEnoughAlreadyso why don't you pull out your Bible and prove her wrong. Your grandstanding behind speaking points but you don't have anything from Bible.
@jeanclaude7018 LOL. Well, sadly the number’s growing these days due to social media. Interesting observation, SHAM… She and her husband took Dale Ratzlaff’s place as directors of his anti-SDA/pro former SDA ministry, Life Assurance Ministries. Their channel is formeradventist.
@jeanclaude7018 James Barber is non-denominational and does not believe in Sunday Sabbth keeping. Unlike Myles who believes in Sunday Sacredness, So no - he is not his mentor and he is also not evil for believing in the Bible - Just like ADL are not evil for believing in Adventism.
@jeanclaude7018 Baber is 100% about the so called 3 angels gospel.
Revelation is true - but there are more than 3 angels in Rev 14 and the SDA interpretation via EGW is not a new gospel like you teach it is.
The Word was not written in chapters or verses. It also didn't have punctuation. Myles needs prayer.
Yes but sentences still appear in a given order and introduce chunks of ideas in paragraphs. The numbered verses and chapters are a guideline for finding that structure.
Myles needs psychiatric attention. His very program is named after Adventism, dedicated to tearing down Adventism.
They keep bashing, and bashing, yet, they fail every single time when the bible reveals itself.
Kinda reminds me of what the Democrats are doing to Trump...lol. Am not endorsing Trump. I am just thinking outloud.
So what's the Bible revealing in the last four lines of the Wycliffe Bible on Daniel 9:27. Your grandstanding behind a lie do you realize that?
@@chowman007the same sort of thing as SDA does with Jesus Christ. They've got 2 atonements an the devil carries the sin. ..But if you ask them they'll say that's not the case! no different than the Democrats.!
@@jimbob1644 Also, strawman won't work here. Don't speak of what you don't know.
You're the one that constantly says that Satan is Jesus.
@@jimbob1644 and, in the end... you will be deceived by the Antichrist if you keep believing like that...
This is why we lift up our voices to proclaim the truth, otherwise, you will be deceived by Satan, that you're believin is Jesus in Lev 16.
Great work guys! Keep lifting up Jesus and His truth 🙏
*Practically all Christians recognize the significance of the Bible to their faith.* - *Yet many Christians misrepresent and misapply Scripture frequently.* - *Often those who are most zealous about the authority of the Bible are at the greatest loss when it comes to understanding its message clearly and applying it faithfully.*
*Misrepresenting Scripture calls into question both the easy assumption of the Reformed emphasis on the perspicuity of Scripture,*- *and the presumption that those who declare the Bible to be the infallible or even inerrant Word of God will agree about what it teaches and illustrates.* - *What it proves instead is that 'rightly dividing the word of truth’ can at best be a difficult and contentious matter;* - *A MATTER DEMANDING CLOSE ATTENTION TO HISTORICAL, LITERARY AND THEOLOGICAL CONTEXT; INTENTION; AND EVEN THE NATURE OF LANGUAGE ITSELF.* - *Abusing Scripture offers a taxonomy of ways many are guilty of doing violence to Scripture.*
*Most people are unaware that when the books of the Bible were originally written, they did not contain chapter or verse references.* - *Each book was a continuous narrative.*
*While we can thank God for the chapter divisions, there are issues with some divisions because the break from chapter to chapter often leaves the reader with the impression that a new thought or idea is being introduced just as occurs in English books and articles.* - *The first English Bible that contained both chapters and verses was the Geneva Bible, published in 1557.*
*The scriptures form a seamless structure of truths, even though the truths were given in different places and different dispensations.* - *Clustering scriptures together is important to improve understanding.* - *Scriptures interpret scriptures.*
*The Bible is a work of literature. Literature comes in different genres, or categories based on style, and each is read and appreciated differently from another.*
*“Sometimes I fear that we teach the scriptures in isolation from each other, when in fact, if you will make multiple use of them and follow this clustering method, you will not only make the teaching moment more significant but you will also be witnessing to the congruency and relevance of all the scriptures. You will find, as one would expect, a powerful conceptual consistency that flows throughout all the scriptures, sometimes even verbatim language, because they come from the same source”* (“The Old Testament: Relevancy Within Antiquity,” A Symposium on the Old Testament, 8-9).
*Therefore, accurate exegesis and interpretation takes into consideration the purpose and style of a given book or passage of Scripture.* - *In addition, some verses are meant figuratively, and proper discernment of these is enhanced by an understanding of genre.* - *An inability to identify genre can lead to serious misunderstanding of Scripture.* - *The main genres found in the Bible are law, history, wisdom, poetry, narrative, epistles, prophecy and apocalyptic literature.* - *Pretty much all Biblical writers wrote in typically figurative language, especially the ones writing in Hebrew, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t to be understood as factual.*
*Bible Prophecy follows the repeat and enlarge principle in which scripture repeats the prophecy of Daniel chapter 2 in chapters seven, eight and eleven, adding more detail in the process.* - *Chapters 10, 11 and 12 thus continue the narrative we find in chapters 2, 7 and 8 in the book of Daniel, and in the same way that the story was developed further in chapters 7 and 8, and continues to develop here in chapter 11 as well, and we get new and more detailed information.*
*Unlocking Daniel’s symbols makes the prophecies of Revelation become so much clearer.*
*Example:* - *The little horn of Daniel 8 has the same characteristics as the dragon of Rev 12...*
*1.* Both said to be "great" [Dan 8:10; Rev 12:3]
*2.* Both cast down some of the stars to the ground [Dan 8:10; Rev 12:4]
*3.* Both attacked Jesus [Dan 8:11, 25; Rev 12:4-5]
*4.* Both attacked God's people [Dan 8:24; Rev 12:13]
*5.* Both exist at the end of the world [Dan 8:18, 25; Rev 12:17]
*All these powers literally attempted to kill baby Jesus [Rev 12:4]*
Apology, I had to edit because of a typo.
Solid comment! 🔥❤️🙌
Love this comment!!!!👍🏽
These critics have no interest in the TRUTH, no matter how much BIBLICAL TRUTH you throw at them. It seems that these critics are operating under a DEMONIC SPIRIT. All TRUE BELIEVERS have to PRAY for these individuals. LORD please have MERCY on all of us.
1)When were CHAPTER breaks introduced in the Bible?
2)Are CHAPTER breaks INSPIRED of GOD?
Absolutely love this channel. God bless you all!
I strongly disagree with this video's title 'Double Standards' that implies that Myles has any standards. Great show! 👏
If Myles has any standards, it would be to push the Papal doctrine of Rome under the guise of Protestantism.
Burrells parting shot of "can't tow with Adventists on the Bible basis but other things like 1844 and EWG" it reminded me of the plot against Daniel and Jesus when they could find any fault in him in the civil law now they went to the first part of the law of God. Its a devils tactic problem is, he always loses.
It's obvious this young Men is traumatized. With the seven day adventist church.
And obsessed
ADL, please do a series on the book of Galatians and please expound on these verses in context of the SDA message-“I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:6-9
I am about 9 minutes into this and Andrew is comparing Trump Derangement Syndrome with some Former Adventists about Adventists. I agree in that some former Adventists cannot tolerate anything positive being said about Adventists. There is as much illogical rage against Adventism as some people have against former president, Donald Trump. That is unfortunate. But I have encountered, many times, Adventist who have Catholic Derangement Syndrome, where everything Catholics is suspect and terrifying for them. Nothing positive can be said. Often when I tell Adventists that Catholics (many Catholics) ATTEND church on the 7th day, they refuse to respond or believe it. They discount it with: If Catholics are going to church on the Sabbath, it can't count for them in heaven because they don't have the right attitude...or something to that effect. This derangement syndrome is probably present within all people when they encounter someone they don't want to trust or give them benefit of the doubt. It's like Christians must have a bad guy. Which is truly the very opposite of Jesus told us to do.
Facts
I don’t think you’re wrong. From personal experience I have noticed that there is mass on Saturdays but not on Sabbath. Typically services are held at evening, and depending on the time of season, it may or may not be during Sabbath hours.
Furthermore, also from personal experience, those who attend Saturday mass go because they cannot attend on Sunday.
I’m not saying that’s always the case, but the church believes that it transferred the Sabbath to Sunday.
My personal experience may be taken with a grain of salt, but that’s all the cases I’ve witnessed firsthand.
@@TheSchoolofEden-vt3ho There are Catholic churches that have mass on Saturday morning. Most have them Saturday afternoon, but before sundown most of the year.
I have found most Catholics that do attend on the 7th day do so because they have a kid's sports games they want to go to on Sunday or just want to have a day to rest (not have to rush to church) which is ironic.
A fourth to a third of US Catholics attend church on the 7th day--which makes at the very least 6 million.
But see, again, you are discounting the fact that many Catholics attend worship services on the 7th day. I would think that would be a wonderful surprise for Adventists if the last day test was about a day of worship. And if that day is the 7th day.
@@arthurandteresabeem7142 I’m don’t think I’m discounting it. I think you acknowledged that most Catholics don’t do it for the sake of Sabbath keeping, but more so for convenience. Sabbath keeping also isn’t just going to church on that day. It’s a period from Friday Sundown to Saturday Sundown that is Holy unto the Lord that is dedicated to God.
The question would be, are they keeping Sabbath as outlined in the Bible? That is, preparing food on Friday, not doing our own pleasure on that day, not shopping or buying things, attending Church, engaging in ministry work, etc.
If we’re being honest to ourselves, 99.99% of them are not doing that. If Sabbath keeping was merely attending church, then I wouldn’t disagree with you.
Why is it they want respect and they get to finish... but yet they always interrupt and are so rude... that makes me so upset and sad the way they act pray for all of them critics 😢
Later Scripture interpreting earlier Scripture is literally all Jesus did. Christians use the NT to interpret the OT ALL THE TIME.
Miles? The guy is just fishing and hasnt gotten anything since he entered the water. He is consistent though; lying. Try to square any of his so-called evidence, you can find out all of them are just misinterpretations. I know because I tried him multiple times. There is no truth in him, the guy is literally sleeping on lies.
What makes me laugh is that when Sam was on n Myles livestream San thought we believed the soul/spirit/breath ceased to exist and Myles KNOWING that we don’t believe that kept his mouth shut.
@@KayinPhylosophy4250 may the Lord judge betwixt Myles and us on that great day soon.
@@AdventDefenseLeague AMEN 🙏🏽
@@KayinPhylosophy4250We don’t believe that? Since when? Please explain. How don’t we, if we believe the soul/spirit isn’t immortal and that our breath returns to God?
@@AighEnoughAlready context friend, I’m referring to when we die of natural causes or diseases/accidents and whatnot. Not the second death on judgment day, obviously the soul gets destroyed Matt 10-28 “And fear not them that kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul; but rather fear Him that is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Yeah but Jesus says they do
Satan is the master of deceit and Miles is on his way of being the valedictorian of Satans school of deceptions. Pray for that young man!
Another double standard I “love” is when we bring up a point, the critic wants a verse that specifically mentions what is being said. We are not allowed to reason things or compare verses, “you need a verse” they say.
But when we ask them for one, they do exactly what they told us not to do. They will wax poetic and have a long drawn out response citing multiple verses or chapters.
It is insane. 😂
This reminds me of that simpson episode when ned flanders and reverend love joy had a bible fight
I haven't seen that one. I'll have to find a clip
When you watch how he tries to explain the new creation and Sunday as the new sabbath he literally does exactly what he said Adventist can’t do lol crazy
Why does Myles seem not to have a peaceful persona? There is an un-easy gasp that he makes after some of his comments. I don't know If he truly believes most of the arguments that he is proposing. There is something in his past that triggered something in his mind against Adventist that has put a bitter gall in his mind that he just will not let go. There have been preachers of righteousness down through time that have endured this type of criticism that is coming from Myles. This is nothing new. I am curious to know what relationship that Myles has with his father that is a preacher in Adventism. Does he consider his father to be a heretic and as deluded, as he thinks the rest of Adventist are? As I listen to the back and forth, point vs counterpoint and the uneasiness of Myles and those who are like minded who exemplify the same exalted censoring spirit. I see that this battle of words is actually a battle of the worlds, the existing world and the world to come. There is an intense struggle between spiritual issues and spiritual wickedness in high places. It is plain that spirits are involved here. The spirits that are animating these conversations are making themselves Known.
This is hilarious they use an old video and no matter how hard they try it just makes them look bad.
Myles doesn’t attack the people he’s always clear about that-it’s the system.
Myles doesn't attack people? You haven't been paying attention buddy. Watch his video about his email exchanges with Edwin so you see how he attacked and insulted him.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueSuppose you're like Alexander the Coppersmith. Myles attacks falsehood. People who love falsehood and refuse to give up the false prophet feel attacked.
I emailed you all to discuss your beliefs with another “critic.” I was cordial in my email. Let me know when you're ready to sit down with another Christian (or a Christian, period) and let the Holy Spirit lead-not through us but through the Bible, through Jesus via the Holy Spirit (see John 16:13).
Why are people openly lying in here😅
ADL, please do a series on the book of Galatians and please expound on these verses in context of the SDA message-“I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:6-9
@@AdventDefenseLeague
I do notice Myles like all of us can get emotional sure.
Why does EGW contradict Gods Word by saying “he reverently passed between the parts of the sacrifice”
God said that He put Abram in a deep sleep and passed through HIMSELF
Hebrews 6:13 Genesis 15:17.
Ellen White in Patriarchs and Prophets page 11 says Abram passed between making solemn vow with God.
This is a contradiction of Gods Holy Word.
This sets people up to have a man centred focus all through the whole of Scripture.
Without the fundamental principle of understanding that God is setting up a Biblical principle showing us man cannot keep a covenant with Holy God so He kept it FOR US…we will end up putting the focus on self.
Hebrews 6:13 Genesis 15:17
Genesis 22:8 Hebrews 1:3.
EGW said Abram passed between the sacrifice God said He passed through HIMSELF.
Who should we trust and obey ADL?
Double Standard Phallacy: "Is it ok to self pleasure?"....."No work of ur hands will go unblessed."
Keep it up guys!!!!!
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Many, if not most, SDA have never read the chapter on the investigative judgment in GREAT CONTROVERSY. FANATICISM (ROM 10:2) is epidemic in SDA denomination!
Line upon Line Precepts upon Precepts. In order to know the Bible, you must study the Bible. take a day for a year in prophecy Ezekiel 4:5-6 compared to Luke 13:32 very interesting this compresence is quoted directly from the Saviors mouth both times. Investigative Judgement Romans 14:10-12 mic drop!!!
May I ask, what do the 3 days Jesus spoke of have to do with the day year principle?
@@andresomerville4896 Read Daniel 9:27 then read Luke13:32 then you will see. Notice what Jesus says at the end. And on the third day I shall be perfected. Jesus is referring to His crucifixion. in Daniel 9:27 we see Jesus confirm a covenant for a week (7 years) but in the midst of the week (3.5 years) He does away with the daily sacrifice's aka Mosaic law which is nailed to the cross. So, in Luke 13:32 we see Jesus has already been doing His ministries for at least 6 months. And we know this by the phrasing of His last words in Luke13:32. Hope that helped blessings and prayer.
@michaelschneider4082 🤯 I understand 3 days for 3 years. Jesus never spoke idly. He was teaching with every word.
@@andresomerville4896 God is a reveler not a concealer. Amen, this also may interest you read Daniel 9:27 and compare it with Matthew 18:22. Let me know what the Spirit reveals to you.
@@michaelschneider4082Jesus told them to forgive 70 x 7 times. In the midst of the 7 days during the 70 weeks Jesus makes the ultimate sacrifice for our forgiveness. Dan 7: 24,27 "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy holy city...and He shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"
This is a clever mnemonic for remembering the time prophecy in Daniel 9.
The very reason you exist is you didn't read (anything in context )in Daniel 8 and created the second lie.. after the lie of Miller!.. you doubled down and made three it times worse .. and to this day. you can't interpret Daniel 8 !..,an the meaning of Daniel 8:13 and 14 which creates a lie destroying Jesus Christ!
The Adventist dissonance is so great. For many year Egwhite has left a bad taste in my mouth.
Because i have discovered many of what she has claimed to be prophetic ---is a Lie. Her own works reveals her falsehood. She says all sorts spurious non biblical things, but according to adventism all those who opposed or form an opinion against her foolishness is an apostate.
@doneciawhittaker4676 thanks... for your mere opinion.
@@AdventDefenseLeague why am i not surprised by this response. SMH. It doesn't change. Lol
@@doneciawhittaker4676 more opinions, no Bible.
@@AdventDefenseLeague you'll are time wasters, and I've given enough years to you hirelings.
@@doneciawhittaker4676 Amen
What did Ellen G Spot prophesie about the current war in Israel?? Did she she it, what is EGW take on the rise in Satanism in the world?
Why is that information important for you?
See you when it actually matters. you don't want it to matter!@@thatnicekid04
She said the old city of Jerusalem would never be rebuilt!
@@thatnicekid04 why are not condemning satanism and Muslims? Seems SDAS are silently their movements.
@@jimbob1644 that's a very obvious predictions lol
Truth alone
“You cannot read a later chapter back into a different chapter”
What? Since when?
Isaiah 65:17 and 66:22 says “a new heaven and new earth”. That phrase is never mentioned prior to Isaiah 65. So how does Myles explain what the new heaven and new earth in Isaiah is talking about? 😂
I like that Jason likes the KJV. I do too. I think the KJV is the most pure version of the Bible. Additionally, I believe that it makes people dig deeper and study the Bible more. People can understand Macbeth and all of these other King’s English literature but can’t understand the Bible. SMH! Stay strong Jason, KJV!😁
Amen!!!! Praise God!!!! 🙌
@@thatnicekid04 Surely you know that even that version was updated several times, right?
@@AighEnoughAlready thanks for letting me know. Are there passages of scriptures in the KJV that are incorrectly translated?
@@thatnicekid04read Daniel 9:27 in the Wycliffe Bible 300 years before the King James
@@MarkChupp-j5i Daniel 9:27
Wycliffe Bible
27 Forsooth one week of years shall confirm the covenant to many men, and the offering and sacrifice shall fail in the midst of the week of years; and abomination of desolation shall be in the temple, and the desolation shall continue till to the performing and end. (And one week of years shall confirm the covenant to many people, and the offering and the sacrifice shall be stopped in the midst of the week of years; and the abomination that maketh desolation shall be placed in the Temple, and the desolation shall continue until the performing and the end of it.)
Is the difference you are referring to about the week of years? Years was italicized, showing that it was the translator's supplied word.
"It must be wrong some way.." ....(because it is )..and you will never address Daniel 8 an what Daniel 814 is (actually) saying! You just keep on running on like as if you're somewhere you're not! What you did with Daniel 8:14 was destroy what Jesus Christ did at the cross!.
Miles reminds me of the children of Eli. 😢😢 The ending was fatal because they reject the guidance
I believe you meant "fatal," but I get your point. Fetal means curled up in a ball like a baby--usually because of fear.
ABOUT ELLEN G WHITE:
Where in Joel 2 does it say ONE prophet arises in ONE denominational group? Joel 2 shows that there should be multiple people to whom this gift should be poured. Where in the text does it say that prophesying meant reinterpreting the Bible? Here is the Joel 2 passage (show me a singular prophet working by herself and isolated from what the text teaches, and then we can accept EGW)-
“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon ALL flesh; and your SONS and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, your old MEN shall dream dreams, your young MEN shall see visions: and also upon the servants and upon the HANDMAIDS in those days will I pour out my spirit.”
Joel 2:28-29 KJV
The Bible teaches that the prophetic gift would be POURED ON MULTIPLE people when it happens, as we also saw in Acts 2.
“But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judæa, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: For THESE are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. But this is that which was spoken by the prophet JOEL; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon ALL flesh: And your SONS and your DAUGHTERS shall prophesy, And your young MEN shall see visions, And your old MEN shall dream dreams: And on my SERVANTS and on my HANDMAIDENS I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:”
Acts 2:14-18 KJV
Since Joel was a true prophet and spoke from and for God, we expect his prophecy to be fulfilled word for word, as in Acts. That didn't happen with EGW. Produce the others that Joel mentioned-Joel didn't say ONE prophet.
And neither do we say "one" prophet. SDAs believe multiple individuals experienced the gift of prophecy during her times, and we also believe this will continue to happen until Jesus returns.
Now you can believe :)
@@AdventDefenseLeagueProduce an Ellen G White contemporary counterpart besides Joseph Smith. Produce another SDA prophet like Ellen G White-contemporary with her. Then I reconsider the issue.
@Bredrin90 sure, the gift of prophecy was manifested among two other individuals called Hazen Foss and William Foy. Here's a link: lineagejourney.com/read/hazen-foss-and-william-foy-faithful-and-unfaithful/
There were others as well. For example, EJ Waggoner was said to have experienced a vision of the cross during a camp meeting, Hiram Edson saw a vision of Christ in the Heavenly Sanctuary while walking in a cornfield after the disappointment, and many others. Typically, critics simply mock these individuals just because they disagree with their doctrine.
Joseph Smith was not a prophet because, although he claimed the gift of prophecy, he did not keep or teach in keeping the commandments of God. Recall that there are three qualifiers for the last days, keeping the commandments, having the faith of Christ, AND having the testimony of Jesus, which is the gift of prophecy (Rev. 12:17, 14:12, 19:10). So, he fails the tests.
Ok, now that I've provided the evidence, you may now believe.
@@AdventDefenseLeague Yep-and ELLEN G WHITE in typical Darwinian fashion outdid the others! Bro, that's not hoe Biblical prophetic office works. The prophets actually work together and are not subsuming each other. Show me the voluminous writings of those other prophets. I mean Jeremiah and Isaiah and Ezekiel never subsumed each other! Ellen White even attempted to subsume Jesus in her recasting of Hebrews 1:1-2.
Consider this:
“LONG AGO, at many times and in many ways, GOD SPOKE to our fathers BY THE PROPHETS, BUT IN THESE LAST DAYS HE HAS SPOKEN TO US BY HIS SON, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world.”
Hebrews 1:1-2 ESV
and compare it to this and see if someone isn’t trying to rewrite (add to) Hebrews 1:1-2-
“IN ANCIENT TIMES GOD SPOKE to men by the mouth of PROPHETS and apostles. IN THESE DAYS HE SPEAKS to them THE TESTIMONIES of His Spirit. There was never a time when God instructed His people more earnestly than He instructs them now concerning His will and the course that He would have them pursue” (Ellen G White, CCh 91.2).
@Bredrin90 your mind is made up bro. Move along please.
The way you verify that you have destroyed Daniel 8. And the meaning of it ..is read the Wycliffe Bible on Daniel 9:27.. the last four lines (what's being placed in that place after the sanctuary is stopped.. ? You get that correct and you'll know that what you're in can't be from the Bible!!
nice work
The issue isn’t with the fourth command, Christians don’t have an issue with observing the sabbath in a way that’s meaningful to themselves. The issue is when you make an issue of worship on days other than the Sabbath. What’s the issue of firsts day commemoration of the resurrection or of Pentecost. Seems SDAs are the ones who are judgmental on this issue.
SDAs don't have an issue with worshipping any day of the week. They hold evangelistic meetings and week of prayers for every day of the week.
SDAs preach to keep the Commandments of God including the one that must Christians break.
@@thatnicekid04 What about Sunday, the first day of the week?
@@skywalker6940 read what EGW said about evangelism on Sunday.
The issue is when you don't keep the Sabbath Holy. What people do the other 6 working days, as long as it doesn't include sin, is up to them.
@@thatnicekid04 Is it ok to also worship on Sunday as you do on Sabbath?
@@skywalker6940 what does the Bible say?
Sunday is one of the 6 working days according to Ezekiel 46:1. You may do as you desire the 6 working days. Just don't sin.
Keep the Sabbath Holy as God says.
But instead of asking me what is acceptable, seek to follow the Bible.
Anthony's you still haven't shown me where sins going to a sanctuary. ?This is what Got.(created in Daniel 814) and you won't tell me what Daniel 8 is saying. !To make it match the levitical sanctuary! because it's got nothing to do with it!. I'm still waiting on you to respond to those two questions. !What's being placed in Daniel 9:27.? In the last four lines of the Wycliffe Bible. ?(You get that correct. )..and you're going to realize Daniel 8:14 hasn't happened yet!
A book you might want to read is by Dr. Alberto R. Treiyer- The Day of Atonement and the Heavenly Judgment, its 687 pages. but well worth reading. Also the book - The Sanctuary and the Atonement, ed. by Frank B. Holbrook
@@billhendricks5375 I already did!( read the book it's Danielle 8)! it's Danielle 9 it's Danielle 11 Daniel 12 and what Jesus told me to (understand in Matthew 24:15)! which is something you have never done!
@@JamieElison Your not afraid to read something are you ? Especially if it would help in your understanding SDA theology, which is obvious you do not have a clear understanding of, other wise you would not make the false statements that you make.
@@billhendricks5375 no.. I'm not afraid to read it (Jesus told me not to read it)!. So I listen to Jesus Christ.. something you don't do! with Matthew 24:15 !!when are you going to do that. ?Until you do.. you're never going to be saved.. do you realize what I just said? salvation is the only way that you're ever going to meet the( real Jesus). and you haven't met the real Jesus yet !and you're promoting me to go where you're at.( I already know what you believe better than you do yourself!) So when are you going to listen to Jesus in Matthew 24:15? and( do what he told you to do?)
@@JamieElison It shows a great deal that you have no idea what SDAs believe. So please don't tell me you know more than I do, because as I stated, you would not be making the false statements that you make. Because if you had read any SDA material, you would clearly see we except Jesus as our Savior.
ADL, I responded to your ad about coming on your program to speak (as a Christian) from the topics your ad suggested. I'm still waiting for a response. I also encouraged us to let the Holy Spirit guide us into all truth through the Bible (see John 16:13). I'm still waiting to sit and talk about Jesus-the Jesus of the Bible-with the leading of the Holy Spirit. Let me know if you received my email. Cris Wellington.
Hi, I never got an email from anyone named Cris Willington. Email me here: info.adventdefenseleague@gmail.com
Mr Cotto can you debate Myles? Don't hide.
@@tariqtari3843 yes
A rule for thee and not for me😂😂😂
SDA doctrine & EG White...NO PROBLEM. The sermons by SDA pastors...PATHETIC!!!
Literally Every single SDA sermon is about the evil Roman Catholic Church? 😅 hello? McFly?
@@WhiteDove73-888 literally all SDA sermons?
The guest has an agenda and not open... remember gal.5
Myles is just wanting attention.. if you watch his videos carefully you can see he doesn't understand the SDA doctrine. His videos seems like a personal vendata w his dad or the church.
He doesn't realize what he's in SDA.. only he was a member most of his life until 10 years ago. He went to your colleges. So what's being placed in Daniel 9:27 (the last four Lines.? read it in the Wycliffe Bible what is being placed in the sanctuary after the daily sacrifices stopped the same as Daniel 8 Daniel 11 and Daniel 12! As Jesus Christ told you to understand in Matthew 24: 15!!. Are you going to listen to Jesus or your false prophet!...You want the truth you're going to have the truth for the first time in your life! Providing you do what Jesus tells you to do!
@@jimbob1644 he was a SDA until he was 19 where he left the church (if you dont believee watch his videos,). Now he was also a SDA pastor kid. Does this make him more knowledgeable of the SDA doctrine? No. Love it when they say SDAs have a "false Prophet" "false doctrine" and a "false God".. thats their "best," arguments hahaha
you just repeated what was told to you..but miles come to know the truth.. something you still haven't learned. Until you know what Jesus did at the cross and what Daniel 8:14 says in the context of Daniel 8 your lost
@@MarkChupp-j5i i did not repeat what "was told to me." i Clarified that he left church young and he never learned the Doctrine. furthermore, what makes you think he knows the truth? lol! that's your opinion based on what? I know what Jesus came to do for me on the Cross, not sure what makes you think SDAs don't know that, but either way. your comments as with most of the people are baseless.
@@PachiMo8 they think he knows the truth because he rejected adventism.
Eisegesis rules Adventism. Facts are very stubborn. Adventism is not a cult in my view, but very dishonest in some theological issues. The first to state his case seems right, until another comes and cross examines him. Proverbs 18:17 BSB. Right now, Adventism is being crossed examined, and we are being found wanting in certain cases. The church isn't all wrong, but we're also not all right.
The true bible scholars of Adventism know for a FACT that there are serious issues with certain doctrinal positions of the church, and also with Ellen White. I believe in her Ministry, just not in the way some have over exalted her to a dangerous place where Christ alone must stand and have ignored things she wrote which have been proven to be problematic.
I'm not putting down the church because I remain a SDA until the Lord shows me otherwise; but I rather be scorned and demonized for honesty and theological truthfulness, than to be adored and admired for ignoring all that has been proven to be wrong, yet defending and holding on to such, doing theological gymnastics, and twisting the word for beliefs to fit, just to maintain a false idea of some special uniqueness. Theological honesty and integrity are greatly lacking amongst us as a people. I agree with Ellen White 100% when she said: We have many lessons to learn, and many many to unlearn. God and Heaven alone are infallible. The Review and Herald July 26, 1892. { 1SM 37.3 }.
There's absolutely no perfect church on earth, but we can choose to reject spiritual pride and just be HONEST. That said, I pray that God will continue to bless you guys greatly...
just for personal interest's sake, which doctrinal positions are being defended in adventism, that has been proven wrong?
Wow. Did the pastor just compared us to Trump. We are right almost always, our fruits are reflective of who we are. Trump on the other hand is wrong almost always. His fruits shows he is of the worst kind of human being to ever walk this earth. Don't lose credibility so early in this noble mission.
You all seem smug and judgmental. It’s horrible to watch.
Sorry to hear that. Please feel free to not watch.
@@AdventDefenseLeagueWhat a sad response to an honest criticism-” feel free not to watch”? In over 30 years of my SDAsm, I learned that “the SDA Church is always right. And other churches are always wrong.” What a Roman Catholic principle-so much in common with SDAsm. No wonder they are enemies. It’s like two adulterous women-fighting for a Husband they are not rightly connected to. But Christ does have a Bride-invisible though she may be, with the faithful, and yes, some are SDAs, some are Catholics, some are Presbyterians and many others. All despite the imperfections of denominations. Well, unless you’re an SDA with no imperfection in your system?
Clown myles has no idea. Hebrews 6:19-20. Into the most holy place to inaugurate the sanctuary for service. Not to begin the day of atonement.
If anything, he does seem totally unaware of the inauguration and its antitypical fulfillment.
@@AdventDefenseLeague have you read a theological paper written by Dr Richard Davidson from Andrews University on Hebrews 6:19-20? Destroys Ford and Kettleson.
Entitled "Christ's Entry within the veil in "Hebrews 6:19-20: The Old Testament Background." October 2001. Digital Commons Andrews University
You should do a presentation on it.
When was the day of atonement in 1844?
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@@AdventDefenseLeaguewhere did your sins go. On the day of atonement in 1844?
@@mikeforfar9493what was he doing with in the veil in 1844?
I just came across a podcast from an Ex Advenstist that says "Does Adventism use mind control"
ruclips.net/video/lVHEthVV-_o/видео.html
Whe you think you have seen and heard everything lololol
@@PachiMo8 🤦🏻♂️
📯🕒⏳⌛🤍; JESUS CHRIST SAYS } KJVB John 5: 39,40 } search The Scriptures for They testify of ME = Genesis To Revelation . If you love your neighbor you warn } KJVB Ezekiel 3: 17-21
(*9: 4) , 33: 1-9)
Liar, Myles is all about context. How’s probation going? Are you ready to stand before God without a mediator?
This video shows that you are incorrect.
@@thatnicekid04 Myles has 3.5 hour videos using many scriptures in context. You bear false witness. I’m listening to Myles right now. Here’s Adventist heretic E.J. Waggoner from Signs of the Times April 8, 1889- “ While both are of the same nature, the Father is first in point of time. He is also greater in that he had no beginning, while Christ’s personality had a beginning.” Waggoner was a blasphemous heretic. Adventists have bad Christology. You can’t be a Christian with the wrong Christ.
@@rayray4192 okay. The SDA Church believes that Jesus has no beginning today. It is well known in Adventism that pioneers thought differently. Why is this something to consider?
Doesn't anti sda stuff get boring after a while?
Myles has to keep his channel alive with pointless information I guess.
@@thatnicekid04 Adventists are tri- theists. You are a liar. The heavenly trio United in purpose is not the Trinity. Three co eternal beings is not the Trinity. Myles is far from boring. You suck.
@@rayray4192are you Myles's parrot? You have mastered repeating word for word what he says.
His claims mean nothing. He has been debunked too many times to be taken seriously at this point.
But you keep supporting him. He needs to keep his channel going. Your support helps him a lot.
📯🕒⏳⌛🤍; cannot repost this until you take Out the totally unnecessary trump plug
To me it did not come across as a Trump plug. He was just using Trump as an example. This was in no way political.
There's no way that's how you interpreted that analogy. Oh man school systems have really failed us 🤦
@@xintimidate ; When a "pastor" and four brothers in ALMIGHTY MAJESTY CREATOR INFALLIBLE AUTHORITY GOD JESUS CHRIST WORD ALONE stup to use a worldly person, instead of GOD'S WORD ALONE to make a point, immediately move those who are seeking or are babes in JESUS CHRIST back to "worldly" and that "pastor" should know that
@@turtlegrams6582 you need to relax it's not that serious. Your type of rhetoric is what turns people off of SDAism
@@xintimidate ; if anyone puts a stumbling block in front of anyone, they Will be held accountable for it . I'm not trying to hurt anyone; I'm trying to help this team to understand that they're under extreme watchful eyes from those that are trying to destroy GOD'S WORD ALONE; that GOD Has seen fit to use these gentlemen for HIS purposes, that, that must be forever, the First Scripture pray though deed in their restoring The Straight TRUTH