The Catalyst to the Development of Human Self-Consciousness
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Many times when I was young I said I never wanted to be. But now that I'm here I'm all in.
It’s really easy to become lost about what he’s talking about if you don’t have an open mind. If you do have an open mind, and you take that journey with him through different analogies and enlightening thought-you’ll be surprised where you end up mentally. Very brilliant man, I love his thought process.
one ends up pretty much down mr. p's hole.
You always give me hope, thank you.
Was just thinking about this.
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Oh God bless you Jordan for the proper interpretation of genesis and Eve.
I really want to know what kind of homework Jordan have his classes, I'm doing homework at the moment and now I seriously want to know
I have been taking Adderall and atypical antipsychotics since I was 6 and am now chemically dependant. I have Dopamine addiction and staying awake for weeks at a time is terrible, but the hell I've experienced led to my current "understanding" of being.
Wow I’m so sorry to hear that. Have you considered treatment? Sorry your parents felt the need to medicate you so heavily at such a young age
What you focus on becomes your reality. It's hard to ignore the distracting thoughts and it is hard to tolerate the boredom of inner silence. I have to fight my own hell, and I am pretty experienced in doing it. If you start with grounding (psychological grounding used in calming anxiety attacks) and work towards meditation and inner focus on the physical body and the base sensations. If you can turn this into a habit, it can help save you from yourself.
same here... >5 years ago, had been on Rx for 25 years straight, I stopped ALL of the Rx cold turkey...
What do you want? what do you desire?
we RESIDE inside DESIRE
and we shall Burn in the fire (rebirth) of our Desire
short cut to manifesting your desired state... the feeling of desire/wish fulfilled is the KEY... feeling from the end...
who rules the realm we are experiencing?
you are experiencing and invertedMirrorimage....
EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON
EVERYTHING IS INSIDE OUT AND BACKWARDS
Time is a false construct... it is the pawn of desire .. it is an illusion to keep you in the loop...
@@GlutesEnjoyer They were forced to by the government. If I wasn't medicated CPS would've taken my brothers and I away from them.
@@elinope4745 I've been propelled by my suffering to seek solutions wherever they seem to be hidden beneath the veil. Allowing my mind to enter a diffusive state for days at a time. In the end it all comes down to the here and now: the only place where we can actually act out the changes needing to take place.
I can only almost understand what he means. But it seems to me this is saying to swallow the realization to take up good implemented action even to death seems to force your mind to truly look to the present to catch your true self in the moment, but to not accept it will make you always try to protect your future or to be self conscious. To metaphorically die in order to come alive would kinda be like hitting the reboot on a computer that has a corrupted file or has a frozen site in order for it to come alive again.
What I can't tell though is if this metaphor came from a story of someone physically dieing but then coming back to life after 3 days how could only the metaphor be true if the physical events of the story were false it would seem like a truth being built off a lie if that were the case, a contradiction in other words. But then again if you recognize all of it to be true you defeat the purpose of the tool of death. So Wich is it ?
Magic mushrooms and other entheogens played a big part.
If that were true, then why hasn't it happened ever again? There should be 1000s of world shaking religions every year if you think about how many people use psychedelic's. So why don't we see that?
We're all so grateful for you, Pescador de Hombres. I have water and power again after Hurricane Fiona! God has been so good to me. The people at the South of Puerto Rico are still suffering. I hope that the recovery won't take that long, but we have a bad leader.
With what your discussing, as a woman I believe that the Spirit of both Eve and Mary lives in every woman. If we fall into tempation, the men can follow. If we choose to follow God, the men can follow. Women are VERY POWERFUL. Wars have been fought for us. Monarquies have been built and crumbled for us. I would like you to discuss Mary Magadalene. Why was Mary Magdalene the first to see Jesus resurrected? What is her importance? I don't believe that DaVinci Code thing. I always disliked that angle. Always. But, why is she important? Besides Peter, was she Jesus' most faithful follower? She did not leave him, and stayed with Mary during the Crucifixtion. And what about John, who also stayed? And lastly, although I don't consider myself to be formally educated in the Bible, there's a somewhat sexual book I believe of Solomon and Sheeba. I could be wrong. In Spanish it's called "Cantar de los Cantares". I think it's Song of Solomon, where they mention "Lily amongst Brambles". I'd love to hear a lecture dedicated to these women of the Bible. Oh, and Moses' wife. I'd love to hear about her. Thank you! Te amo!
What's the difference between playing Santa for the kids, and choosing a spouse you know you can cheat on?
I thought that the tree of life and the tree of knowledge were two separate trees, and that Eve ate from the tree of knowledge, NOT the tree of life. And it was God who tricked Adem and Eve (he told them the lie that they would die if they ate from the tree of knowledge, to stop them from eating from it), but the serpent told the truth, that they would gain knowledge.
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Dr Peterson, I'm afraid you have misrepresented the Host that Mary is giving out. Please investigate 'The True Presence of Christ in the Eucharist' and 'Transubstantiation'. The wheat Host is Not a mere symbol. It is Christ's body and blood which he told his disciples we must eat of. The artist of the painting, in depicting Mary with the halo and distributing the Host, would most likely have been Catholic. Assuming the host she is giving has been consecrated (and she would not be giving it out if it were not), she is not sharing a symbol... she is sharing the true body and blood of Christ. If anyone questions the truth of this, please investigate 'Miracles of the Eucharist'. It's incredibly fascinating... and so many people are missing out on this wonderful truth.
⭐️ PRIDE IS THE ROOT TO ALL PROBLEMS AND IS THE OPPOSITE OF LOVE. If you can’t accept this then you gonna keep compounding which creates these DEVILISH problems we find ourselves in today but now more then ever. WE NEED TO BE WILLING TO DIE FOR LOVE. LOVE FOR EACH OTHER. LOVE FOR OUR CREATOR and HIS ALMIGHTY VISION FOR US. HE KNEW THE PATH BEFORE TAKING IT AND THE ONLY TRUE TRANSCENDENCE IS THROUGH HIS JUDGEMENT. ACCEPT THAT OR CONTINUE TO BATHE IN THE DEVILS FILTH WE ARE SURROUNDED BY.
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Jordan is really reaching really far here. I understand what he's saying. And how he arrived at that conclusion. But the painting itself does not resemble the meaning Jordan is interpreting. Neither does Christianity.
The whole point of Christianity is that you don't accept your mortality. Christ will grant you immortality and you will never suffer again in paradise in heaven. That's what heaven is in Christianity. A real physical place where your immortal soul goes after death. Christians don't believe in accepting your own mortality they believe in escaping it by going to heaven. Infact Christians don't even believe they are mortal. They don't even accept their own mortality. They actively deny it by claiming they have a soul that is immortal and their body is just a meat house.
"it was the vulnerability of eve that was the catalyst to human self consciousness. And I think thats true. It seems to be a reasonable proposition." I guess when you believe in talking snakes and gods, what is not a reasonable proposition?
I'll tell you what's not a reasonable proposition. A completely scientific explanation for the proliferation of Judeo-Christianity over the past 6-10 thousand years.
poor mr. p. loves to label stuff for himself. it was called the tree of life, dude. they tasted life. no need to complicate stuff up so much. just ego.
Not quite Dr Petersen. Christ on the Cross is God literally saying" You, human, CANNOT do it. You CANNOT transcend the death you chose. So I HAVE TO COME DOWN AND ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOU. Believe in Me, NOT yourselves."
@@Spaghettidash Not sure I understand your question. The sacrifice itself is the means of redemption/reconciliation to God, so God had to become man to take man's sin onto Himself.
@@raoulasare2198 in the picture, he is talking about the symbolism the painting represents. The cross is the representation of responsibility. It’s not about WHO took the responsibility at the time. It’s about the balance needed by YOU taking responsibility as also the acceptance of death.
@@bambicrandi You don't make sense. "The cross is the representation of responsibility" - ok. "It's not about WHO took the responsibility at the time" - huh? Christ is literally the one on the cross taking responsibility. You ignore Christ to try to turn the cross into a secular symbol - why is that? Why does Christ dieing for you offend you so much? And why can't you accept His free gift? Instead you try to turn the symbol into being about self - The exact same vain, narcissistic humanism that Christ died to free you of.
@@raoulasare2198 i’m sure that you’re the one misinterpreting. Peterson quite overtly references that this is all metaphor. None of it is literal. To believe otherwise is credulity. Mr. Peterson would likely consider a biblical literalist silly. That’s why he brings in other religions (Buddhism) to highlight his hypothesis that humans use the invention of religions in order to express more important, core metaphors. Literal belief is Not meaningless, but ultimately incorrect.
If you believe that an omnipotent, omnipresent, omni-benevolent, creator God incarnated himself as a human avatar in order to sacrifice himself to forgive humans so that they could circumvent rules which he created in the first place, you need your ears checked.
@@NA-vz9ko Your arrogance is hilarious 😆 I must've really hit a nerve with you bud. Have a nice afterlife!
One of the most ridiculous presentations in history! To cap it off, he said, "And I think it's true." This shows that a person with a PhD and with higher than average intelligence, can be so, so wrong. Religious belief runs amok over evidence and reason. Sad that it poisons the mind of students. Hopefully, they will do their own thinking and escape his warped view of history and reality.
Sigh….there are always a few. 2008 called. They want their atheist back. Skeeeptaks gonna skeeptack I guess. Don’t fool yourself into believing you are a “critical thinker”. I’ll bet you are poised to reply to any detractors with “sky daddy…zombie Jesus…muh reecist byyble…but the contradictions!” A real independent thinker just like the rest.
Can you point out the actual flaws in his presentation because I have no idea what your objection is.
EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON....
do you know the realm you have imprisoned yourself in?
it's called DESIRE... it's where you RESIDE...
for if you had no DESIRE you wouldn't be manifested here, now.
the narrow path leads to the eye of the needle...
the trick of the treat ... you can have anything your heart desires... however if when your heart is weighed against the feather, it desires anything . ... it will fall out of balance
so who is the god of this realm? the king of desire.... the embodiment there in... the one who created desire in the very beginning and created separation between consciousness and that which created ALL...
Lucifer was cast down from heaven for DESIRING "the honor and glory reserved for GOD alone" ... in this act ... DESIRE or separation from the ALL was created... which simultaneously created lack and Non-fulfillment ..
DESIRE is the glue holding this matrix together.... and it is also the false God worshipped (war-shipped) by so many...
it is what enslaves and imprisons us here... and we will continue in the loop of time ... until we escape our desires ENTIRELY
Care to elaborate? It's not good practice to disagree with someone online without giving any clear examples or reasons. If you really care about academic integrity then you should back up what you're saying.
its this comment that makes it clear to me why they dont let just about anybody in to Harvad
Jordan bro, stop with this nonsense. The bible isn't metaphorical or esoteric. It has deep meanings of course, but what you're doing is attempting to remove God and the reality that scripture is "God-breathed" and is Gods method of communication with humanity. It's blasphemous
do you know the realm you have imprisoned yourself in?
it's called DESIRE... it's where you RESIDE...
for if you had no DESIRE you wouldn't be manifested here, now.
the narrow path leads to the eye of the needle...
the trick of the treat ... you can have anything your heart desires... however if when your heart is weighed against the feather, it desires anything . ... it will fall out of balance
so who is the god of this realm? the king of desire.... the embodiment there in... the one who created desire in the very beginning and created separation between consciousness and that which created ALL...
Lucifer was cast down from heaven for DESIRING "the honor and glory reserved for GOD alone" ... in this act ... DESIRE or separation from the ALL was created... which simultaneously created lack and Non-fulfillment ..
DESIRE is the glue holding this matrix together.... and it is also the false God worshipped (war-shipped) by so many...
it is what enslaves and imprisons us here... and we will continue in the loop of time ... until we escape our desires ENTIRELY
@@22bviews86 I don't need your new age, women's magazine horoscope level esoterism. I was an advaitin Hindu for almost a decade. Jesus Christ is Lord, repent from your satanic ways.
Psychologically you can’t accept anything as truth, since everything is a construct of the mind. What you can do is take something subjective and turn it into a mental truth subjectively. It has to remain subjective to be able to do that. Not everyone is a person of faith. Peterson is though, so he can use theology as a way to help those find a way to answers mentally. You can’t accept anything as truth, except life and death really. Everything else is gray, and in between. The only guarantee in life is death. The point of faith is knowing there is no truth, or proof. That is why it is faith. If you keep yourself within that mold, you will never grow. It is good to have faith in something, but to say it is an objective truth is just doing an injustice to yourself as a person. The only objective truth is life, and death.
@@bambicrandi >nothing can be accepted as truth
Is that statement true?
@@bambicrandi desire... is the lesson.. judgement the gatekeeper