Definitely a video worth watching, I have not yet done an upgrades but happy I have seen this video and now know what to expect, wouldn’t have thought there was that much to something simple as just changing from nylon gears to metal definitely a big help 👍🏼
Just redoning my wells v2 as I'm not getting fps your getting thanks for the vids will by you a coffee and get one of your patches once done you're the man going to be coming up from Tasmania next year and having a few goes try get some ideas to set up my farm once I eduate these politicians my way
Thanks for your knowledge mate, blindly upgraded my gun and a friends as I have an electrical background and had these little teething issues that i can now solve. Cheers.
Loved the video mate, and I am not mechanically minded, but find myself wanting to know more. Close up shots of the tapper spring being put in place, anti reverse mech and trigger as well would be appreciated, even just still shots showing what they connect to. But love the work mate. Very engaging, even for someone as mechanically illiterate as myself. I just learnt more about gear boxes in 33mins than I have my entire life!
@@dankdestroyer6965 lol. The question is, was and will be with answers like that "what is shimming" It's a simple question. What is it? Not how, nor why, but what. Please
@@Carrotsalesman He did ask why you would want to do it as well if you read his question. Shimming is basically where you add small discs of metal to the gears , making them fit better in the gearbox, which gives the advantages listed above when done well.
Have you had good experiences with the metal tappits? all of the ones we have used have bent and caused issues within a mag or two. where do you get those ones as they look far stronger then the ones we've found
Can I run a 1.4 unequal spring in a v2 punisher with metal gears/alloy barrel/green o ring and alloy cylinder head with nozzle/nylon pull bridge and metal teeth ladder?
What do you do when the pinion gear has no more room to move down but is still to tight on the bevel? Also when the spur is tight in the box with no shims then what? Other then those 2 things the vid was extremely helpful
Hey Guido I've shimmed my nylon gearbox and am running a black chi hai motor, 11.1v battery with 1.4mm unequal spring but it won't draw back the spring it sounds like the motor is just stalling out it won't drive the gears. I would have thought it would have done that easily. Are the chi hais polarity conscious? Not sure whether it's driving against the anti reverse lock which is stalling or if it actually can't drive the spring back. Cheers Brent
It's easy enough to follow your video however even so my box has jmed amd I can't see why, makes me wonder if this box you built worked no probe or did it require more fine tuning
Are these airsoft and you just calling them gel blasters due to RUclips policy the reason I ask is I have a channel JJ Moore and they keep deleting my streams about airsoft? Any advise will help
I live In Australia where airsoft is illegal. These are Gel blasters and they are a bit like airsoft but lower quality and they shoot orbees. I also have problems with RUclips policy.
Hey mate new to the sport and so far you seem like as Yoda is to the force you are the same to gel blasters! I've a million questions that can all lead to the answer of just one and that is....if you were to be given the task of finding the best hardest punching drop in out of the box v2 gearbox what would it be?
So of all the qualities you listed there I can think of nothing that meets all the requirements. The HSG V2G is a strong gearbox that can punch hard, but is not drop in, you need to build it yourself. The LDX advanced is drop in, and its great bang for buck but you would need to upgrade the spring at a minimum to get it going hard.
@@lowguidoschopshop im sure you've a lot of others to get around to replying as well so im very appreciative that you took the time to read my request and even more greatful you were able to put me on the right path.i recieved a CNC reciever ,tube,stock,barrel etc as a gift and im having a crack at a build myself with the help of your tutorials lets hope I pull it off but shy of that having a back up g.box plan is the reason I asked you.thanks mate for the solid!!
@@zjbjproduction If you've got the savvy to upgrade a spring, then you can replace a set of busted gears, they're as cheap as chips. :-) I think the engineering term is 'destructive testing' :-)
If you have to shim the bevel gear underneath to lift it up, have you ever shimmed the anti-reverse latch as well (to raise it so it engages correctly)?
When I shim my gears guido I get all this black stuff on the sleeves and inside my plunger. I know it’s from the gears but I’m not sure what’s doing it :)
Does your sector gear have the same amount of teeth as the ladder? I think my gear has 16 and the ladder has 14 and it fully pulls spring back and jams and doesn't let go
Are the black nylon cases stronger than the clear plastic ones? Mine keep cracking around the cylinder head with a 1.5 spring so im using a 1.3 spring instead.
@@lowguidoschopshop Is it the same guts as all the other G36s? You just liked it for aesthetics? Black Ops Blasters is the only place I've seen it listed, but always out of stock. Haven't found any reviews of it.
Okay so the bushing in on and the gears are tight as and then when i flip the bushings on the other side they spin freely Can i keep the bushing on the other side?
@@lowguidoschopshop yeah i had to mod my sper gear for it to work in the 8mm shs bushings cos it kept hitting the beval bottom bushing if that makes sense but now the gears cant be shimmed cos they are lock tight when gearbox is closed :p
Note the movement in the gears can be off use did a 1.3 spring nylons gears on a ACR J10 had been using it for a bit then I heard the grind😰thought I had striped it so opened it to check expecting the worst but it was all good so the battery was low and the top gear could not pull the spring as the other 2 could still go it must move under lock so you don't get damage put it together charge the battery worked fine😆.👍
Im sure I have done it in one of my videos... the process is the same. internals for the J10 are the same as the gen8. only difference is that the motor for the J10 lives in the pistol grip.
@@lowguidoschopshop I've watched it all mate and still can't seem to get it rite as I still need to see the motor hight to shim it correctly. I would rather not guess by sound as I dont realy know what a metal geared acr j10 should sound like. just a different question dose tapet plate spring size/strengh mater?
Gday Has anyone release free plans/guide to fab your own Gel Blaster with Wood/Metal and just buy the motor/battery/internal parts and make the outside parts yourself at home
And the public backlash against them has been absolutely massive. The individual, despite having a miniscule amount of pot on him, already has far more public support than the police. And rightly so IMO - dude wasn't driving high, nor was he waving blasters around in public. It gives me a little hope for this country... just a little. The day we start banning everything on the sole basis that it was used by some dickhead to do something stupid is the day I emigrate to the States.
@@lowguidoschopshop uve got a v3 gearbox with the same gears the same motor the same piston the same cylinder the same spring the same nozzle but u just shoot the gel bbs i guess u cant get the plastic bbs
@@filipciborowski6443 yeah, so As I was saying.. these are absolutely not the same as airsoft and definitely could not be made to fire airsoft BB's because that would be totally illegal. and if that were the case then they would take these off us too.
shimming spur gear first is the WRONG way to shim a gearbox. Bevel to pinion, then everything else follows. We leaned this in airsoft about 15 years ago
haha, love the Project Binky reference...love watching those guys...its the gift that just keeps on giving.
Definitely a video worth watching, I have not yet done an upgrades but happy I have seen this video and now know what to expect, wouldn’t have thought there was that much to something simple as just changing from nylon gears to metal definitely a big help 👍🏼
Just redoning my wells v2 as I'm not getting fps your getting thanks for the vids will by you a coffee and get one of your patches once done you're the man going to be coming up from Tasmania next year and having a few goes try get some ideas to set up my farm once I eduate these politicians my way
Thanks for your knowledge mate, blindly upgraded my gun and a friends as I have an electrical background and had these little teething issues that i can now solve. Cheers.
Thanks bro for this video i have been shimming from the bottom of the gearbox this whole time and now i know how to do it properly 🤣💪
Where do you get the steel ladder plungers from?
Loved the video mate, and I am not mechanically minded, but find myself wanting to know more. Close up shots of the tapper spring being put in place, anti reverse mech and trigger as well would be appreciated, even just still shots showing what they connect to. But love the work mate. Very engaging, even for someone as mechanically illiterate as myself. I just learnt more about gear boxes in 33mins than I have my entire life!
I would love to see the greasing and other stages as well, hoping there’s a part 3
do you have any fixes for double gel feeds as well as tappet to nozzle jamming open that would be the course of double feed gels
@VortexModz ended up doing a full upgrade rebuild dubble feed sorted.
Gday, you failed to mention at the start
What is Shiming
Why you want to do it
Agreed, I had no idea. Just heard people saying they’d fix it with a quick "shim". But you figure it out pretty fast
the reason you want to shim your blaster is to increase performance and durability.
@@dankdestroyer6965 lol.
The question is, was and will be with answers like that "what is shimming"
It's a simple question.
What is it?
Not how, nor why, but what.
Please
@@Carrotsalesman He did ask why you would want to do it as well if you read his question. Shimming is basically where you add small discs of metal to the gears , making them fit better in the gearbox, which gives the advantages listed above when done well.
Have you had good experiences with the metal tappits? all of the ones we have used have bent and caused issues within a mag or two. where do you get those ones as they look far stronger then the ones we've found
I have only used 1 and it's inside a metal box. No issues so far.
Hi sir, I have a question can a gel blaster can be converted into airsoft ?
Does any one know where to get the foam pad for the plunger from?
Can you double up shims on one side?
Can I run a 1.4 unequal spring in a v2 punisher with metal gears/alloy barrel/green o ring and alloy cylinder head with nozzle/nylon pull bridge and metal teeth ladder?
What do you do when the pinion gear has no more room to move down but is still to tight on the bevel? Also when the spur is tight in the box with no shims then what? Other then those 2 things the vid was extremely helpful
Hey Guido I've shimmed my nylon gearbox and am running a black chi hai motor, 11.1v battery with 1.4mm unequal spring but it won't draw back the spring it sounds like the motor is just stalling out it won't drive the gears. I would have thought it would have done that easily. Are the chi hais polarity conscious? Not sure whether it's driving against the anti reverse lock which is stalling or if it actually can't drive the spring back. Cheers Brent
you might be on the money about the anti reverse. check the pink terminal on the motor is going to battery positive.
@@lowguidoschopshop thanks mate definitely polarity conscious. I swapped it around and it ran like a dream!
How are you measuring with the tool?
There is a depth measuring blade/tool on the bottom of the vernier.
@@bensantowski467 thank you :)
also that name is pretty blursed ngl
Loving the channel. 🖖
Thank you for your awesome video. I really need that shimming knowledge!
how does one set the motor height for a j10 due to the grip being built in to the lower receiver
Great tutorial, thanks so much. You've explained everything really well
That project binky reference 😂🤣
It's easy enough to follow your video however even so my box has jmed amd I can't see why, makes me wonder if this box you built worked no probe or did it require more fine tuning
Is this the reason when I test my gearbox the gear’s spin but it doesn’t interact with the plunger?
Make sure the plunger is far enough back so that the teeth can engage the gears
Are these airsoft and you just calling them gel blasters due to RUclips policy the reason I ask is I have a channel JJ Moore and they keep deleting my streams about airsoft? Any advise will help
I live In Australia where airsoft is illegal. These are Gel blasters and they are a bit like airsoft but lower quality and they shoot orbees. I also have problems with RUclips policy.
Loving the videos!
You should mod the cheap Luochen AR15
Hey mate new to the sport and so far you seem like as Yoda is to the force you are the same to gel blasters!
I've a million questions that can all lead to the answer of just one and that is....if you were to be given the task of finding the best hardest punching drop in out of the box v2 gearbox what would it be?
So of all the qualities you listed there I can think of nothing that meets all the requirements. The HSG V2G is a strong gearbox that can punch hard, but is not drop in, you need to build it yourself. The LDX advanced is drop in, and its great bang for buck but you would need to upgrade the spring at a minimum to get it going hard.
@@lowguidoschopshop im sure you've a lot of others to get around to replying as well so im very appreciative that you took the time to read my request and even more greatful you were able to put me on the right path.i recieved a CNC reciever ,tube,stock,barrel etc as a gift and im having a crack at a build myself with the help of your tutorials lets hope I pull it off but shy of that having a back up g.box plan is the reason I asked you.thanks mate for the solid!!
Are nylon gears strong enough for a 1.4mm spring
Should be, unless you're unlucky & get a crappy set of gears. Chinese QC is a bit iffy.
That's the limit for Nylon gears IIRC.
@@zjbjproduction You can run 1.4mm unequal springs, the gears won't just disintegrate. How long will they last, that's the question?
Yea i was more going for the safe option as opposed to the 'how long will it last'. 👍
@@zjbjproduction If you've got the savvy to upgrade a spring, then you can replace a set of busted gears, they're as cheap as chips. :-) I think the engineering term is 'destructive testing' :-)
Hey, does it works with standard factory (nylon, plastic) gears also?
Yes. They are usually shimmed from factory though.
Its very helpful. Thank you....
If you have to shim the bevel gear underneath to lift it up, have you ever shimmed the anti-reverse latch as well (to raise it so it engages correctly)?
I personally have never had to, but I have seen pictures of some that did need adjusting.
When I shim my gears guido I get all this black stuff on the sleeves and inside my plunger. I know it’s from the gears but I’m not sure what’s doing it :)
Sure it's not from the spring? (Some have a black finish\paint).
Does your sector gear have the same amount of teeth as the ladder? I think my gear has 16 and the ladder has 14 and it fully pulls spring back and jams and doesn't let go
Long time reply but you could grind the tooth down if need be
@@tophatguytyrone5640 cheers, yeah that's what I did, well just rounded off the top kinda left half a tooth there
Hey stupid question im just getting into gel blasters. Is "xwe" the same as "WELL"? Also is the well m4 ris any different then the m401??
Yes, xwe is well.. i dont know how it converts to Chinese but well, wells xwel nwel is all the same
Are the black nylon cases stronger than the clear plastic ones? Mine keep cracking around the cylinder head with a 1.5 spring so im using a 1.3 spring instead.
The nylon ones are a lot stronger
@@lowguidoschopshop Thanks. Now i have to get a J9 nylon gearbox any recommendations? I would ideally like a metal gearbox but i haven't found any.
1.5mm spring are u crazy!!
thank you for your great informative videos!
Off topic... did you ever get a G36K?
No, I wanted one and then never got it. Got busy with other things, just never happened.
@@lowguidoschopshop Is it the same guts as all the other G36s? You just liked it for aesthetics? Black Ops Blasters is the only place I've seen it listed, but always out of stock. Haven't found any reviews of it.
what the hell is a gel blaster?
What do i do if the gears are too tight in the gearbox?
having the same issue, did you find a way to get around it?
Without shims? You need to dremel your bushing
Project Binky! Its still going lol.
Okay so the bushing in on and the gears are tight as and then when i flip the bushings on the other side they spin freely
Can i keep the bushing on the other side?
That's an interesting approach. Never seen that done before. I suppose if you glue it in place it may work? Its probably not ideal.
@@lowguidoschopshop i tried its just the hlf arp9 gearbox its stupid haha
@@Fentynl. that box is basically a WI 3.0 with a modified mag plate, there shouldn't really be any issues. try slim bushings.
@@lowguidoschopshop yeah i had to mod my sper gear for it to work in the 8mm shs bushings cos it kept hitting the beval bottom bushing if that makes sense but now the gears cant be shimmed cos they are lock tight when gearbox is closed :p
@@Fentynl. you may need to machine down a little bit of the collar on the gear to get it to fit properly.
Ok... not gonna lie I keep coming back to this video just because I keep forgetting how the spring for the trigger sits (32:59).
If the trigger won't stay in place, use a clamp or something to hold it in until the housing goes back on
watching ur video makes me think that my headphone is broken
hey mate have a question , do u have an email?
deelowguido@gmail.com
thanks bro ..i really appriciate that
Note the movement in the gears can be off use did a 1.3 spring nylons gears on a ACR J10 had been using it for a bit then I heard the grind😰thought I had striped it so opened it to check expecting the worst but it was all good so the battery was low and the top gear could not pull the spring as the other 2 could still go it must move under lock so you don't get damage put it together charge the battery worked fine😆.👍
What’s a gel blaster?
Its a toy gun that shoots orbeez
Can you please do this for the acr j10 please please please
Im sure I have done it in one of my videos... the process is the same. internals for the J10 are the same as the gen8. only difference is that the motor for the J10 lives in the pistol grip.
@@lowguidoschopshop but you cant see the motor height properly in the handle please help
@@jamescrabtree140 yes it is a pain in the ACR. But you can buy a replacement cap for the grip that has adjustment like the M4.
@@jamescrabtree140 have you watched my gen 9 mod video were I do it by ear??
@@lowguidoschopshop I've watched it all mate and still can't seem to get it rite as I still need to see the motor hight to shim it correctly. I would rather not guess by sound as I dont realy know what a metal geared acr j10 should sound like.
just a different question dose tapet plate spring size/strengh mater?
Thanks you verry much , you help me a lot . Thanks
Gday Has anyone release free plans/guide to fab your own Gel Blaster with Wood/Metal
and just buy the motor/battery/internal parts and make the outside parts yourself at home
Hahaha! project binky!
So it not live lord Guideo
I have done it live before I wanted a cleaner edit
@@lowguidoschopshop ok I thought I'd seen something similar b4
have you seen all these crazy posts from the nsw police? they charged some guy like 14 firearms offenses for having gel blasters and another guy 4
And the public backlash against them has been absolutely massive. The individual, despite having a miniscule amount of pot on him, already has far more public support than the police. And rightly so IMO - dude wasn't driving high, nor was he waving blasters around in public. It gives me a little hope for this country... just a little. The day we start banning everything on the sole basis that it was used by some dickhead to do something stupid is the day I emigrate to the States.
@@SirEatsCrackAlot well said
@Munky Bidness if you live in a Nazi state like NSW or VIC they just might do that.
Great to see a public response so passionate. Especially the 'proud of yourself busting people for....toys' type post.
@Munky Bidness haha! We need more people with your attitude.
☺😊😀😁😂5 Smile's
damn this is stupid.. so u cant buy an airsoft gun but u can get all the parts to get one.
you could be forgiven for thinking that gel blaster parts are the same as airsoft parts because they are very similar
@@lowguidoschopshop uve got a v3 gearbox with the same gears the same motor the same piston the same cylinder the same spring the same nozzle but u just shoot the gel bbs i guess u cant get the plastic bbs
@@filipciborowski6443 no, because BB's are considered "ammunition" by law, so anything that fires "ammunition" is a firearm.
@@lowguidoschopshop damn thats stupid
@@filipciborowski6443 yeah, so As I was saying.. these are absolutely not the same as airsoft and definitely could not be made to fire airsoft BB's because that would be totally illegal. and if that were the case then they would take these off us too.
shimming spur gear first is the WRONG way to shim a gearbox. Bevel to pinion, then everything else follows. We leaned this in airsoft about 15 years ago
Yes. And if you actually watched the video you would know that's how I do it too. Appreciate your superior knowledge on the subject.
Hahahahah.. borrring
Get a new video camera yours is so bad!!!!!!
I have a question what’s the best size shims I should use on metal gears and nylon gearbox
The best size is that size that you need to take the slack out.