How Good Was Joe Montana as a Kansas City Chief?
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- Опубликовано: 30 май 2021
- An in depth look at Joe Montana's tenure as a Kansas City Chief and the details that reveal just how incredible those seasons really were.
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Here's a joke, Question: Why can't Cam Newton use the phone anymore? Answer: Because he can't find the receiver.
Thank u I love ur vids and the updates and not caring to make money
Kansas city chiefs are going to win the super bowl
Joe Montana brought back winning in KC
I don't have instagram and that's why I've said he's the greatest of the great. Wake up, Quarterbacks were murdered on the field back then. It's almost like Flag Football for the Quarterbacks NOWADAYS.
If you're too young to ever have watched him play live, you really missed out. There's no way to describe how good he was.
Fact!
Right on point! Joe was god.
I’m 30 so he played while I was alive although I don’t remember it. I grew up watching and rooting for Brent Farve.
@Travis Hanks this video said they were willing to trade Young to keep Montana. Montana was out of the league in 2 years while Young stayed until 99 and was a pro bowler for 7 years straight and an all pro 3 years in a row. I was upset about Montana leaving but he was clearly diminished and only had 2 years left. Steve Young could have been an elite quarterback into the 2000’s if his style didn’t lead to so many concussions. It’s not like they were having a hard time choosing between Jimmy Glass and a Tom Brady still in his prime. It was more like a Favre and Rodgers.
Die hard here... In the 94 season not a single 49ers fan rooted against Joe when they faced KC ... I was 10 and still remember it
As a Chiefs fan and season ticket holder even in the early 90’s what Joe did here was very underrated. He elevated JJ Birden/Willie Davis/Jonathan Hayes/Keith Cash to heights they hadn’t previously and would never reach after he was gone. I just wish Tony Gonzalez woulda been here when Joe was, woulda loved to see that duo. Great vid Mike!
I would've liked to have seen more out of Warren Moon when he was in KC. Seems like he didn't play that much, but when he did it was gold. What do you think?
If you really think about it Kansas City has never had bad Qb play...
@@cozmo5586 Tyler Thigpen was pretty bad, so was Brody croyle. We picked the wrong guy in Elvis over Rich Gannon.
@@padraig5335 good response... but in the last 50 years or so the Qb play has been average to Super Bowl caliber...
@@cozmo5586 You're not wrong. Tons of first round playoff exits though. I'm a chiefs fan and live in KC I know all this a little too well.
I'm a die hard 9er fan, when I saw Joe I click fast
Same with me
I hate the 49ers, but I always admired Montana for just picking teams apart. Had the West Coast Offense not been “perfected” under him and Walsh, I wonder if it would’ve been as big as it became, or if it would have even caught-on at all. But I believe most of the offenses in the nfl subscribe to the “short pass is as good as the run” theory of the WCO...nowadays.
PERSONALLY, I’m more of a “Mad Bomber” kinda guy, but to each his own...
me too, I defected with Joe for those 2 years.
Walsh co-played both qbs. Madden came out with the saying “if you have two qbs, you don’t have one”
Who was telling co qb young only played when Joe was hurt or game was over
John Madden ? The same guy who said that Brady should just take a kneel and run out the clock and hope for the best in OT vs The Rams in the 2001 Super Bowl *LOL*
@@trevmac8362 yea that guy ..who coached to a 103-32-7 record and superbowl XI champion ..i figure he pretty much had that down ..maybe one of the best to do it as well...but everyones a skeptic till facts hit em ..
@@cowboys4life87 *Playoffs*
69- lost to K.C
70- Lost to Colts
71- Out of Playoffs
72- Lost to Steelers
73- Lost to Dolphins
74- Lost to Steelers
75- Lost to Steelers
77 - Lost to Denver
78 - Out of playoffs
Imagine if Madden was Brady's coach in 2001 and Brady would have taken that knee?
Madden was the Aaron Rodgers of playoffs *1 Super Bowl and Out*
How's them facts Champ?
@@trevmac8362 well to give madden credit he did get stuck in between the 2 of the best teams of all time in the Dolphins and Steelers. Even the Colts where good and KC had rebuilt there team from the first super bowl. No many coaches could have won in that era and he did win one. Give him that
A star QB, that played most of his career with 1 team & was highly successful with that team, gets traded to another team in his twi-lite years & raises the level of play of players on that team and has a couple of season's of success there. IMAGINE THAT.
Those Chiefs Joe went to, already had a winning record for 4 years straight, with 3 straight trips to the playoffs (Division title and WC)
Joe missed 7 games in 93, the Chiefs went 4-3 with a NOBODY named "Dave Krieg"
Then right after Montana left, the Chiefs went 13-3 with another trip to the playoffs ( Division title)
@@darknotered7425 I'm from WI & what I was refering to was the fact that the Packers had 2 HOF QB's back to back. And Favre 'retired early' only to come back & play with the Jets, then the Vikings and Pack fans & the whole country had a cow about it, calling it betrayal, he lied, etc. Now with the round the clock media coverage we have today, seems like Aaron Rodgers is in the same situation & everybody's 'all up in arms' about it again. I'm simply pointing out that this situation has happened before, and I was illustating it using a past great QB like Joe Montana, and in Aaron Rodgers own words we should all R-E-L-A-X about it and let what's going to be, be. Without looking up stats, I'm sure players on that KC team will say, that playing with Montana, even if he was not what he once used to be, elevated their level of play, or were thrilled to be playing with him. Maybe even Dave Krieg learned from him and elevated his level of play by while 'filling in' for him. If he went 4 and 3. I don't dispute your stats, just don't know them off the top of my head. In fact, Dave Krieg came from a small DIV III college ( in WI ) named Milton college, which no longer exists. I'd say he'd have to be some kind of football player to have a long NFL career coming from a small program like that. Wouldn't exactly call him a nobody. And maybe Montana's influence was helpful in them having a good season the following year.
@@darknotered7425 Dave Krieg wasn't a nobody. was he elite no but he was a starting nfl qb for many years. How many afc championship games they get to with out Joe? Also Joe was coming off a broken leg i believe so yeah
@@joshpereira956
What about the 9ers having AN AMAZING WINNING RECORD without Montana whenever he was out injured??
What's your spin about that? 😆
@@darknotered7425
Dave Krieg isnt a nobody at all. He's a three time pro bowl QB
First: Joe Montana was heaven sent for Chiefs fans of the era. He had me believing until a cold day in Buffalo.
Second: Watch what you say about my Zubaz.
Yeah Mike you should really break down that Monday night game in Denver. That may be one of the greatest Monday Night games of all time. It’s a pure classic. I was in College at the University of Kansas and we were going nuts!!! Both Montana and Elway played great. Elway and Denver scored late and once again we thought he beat us. But Montana brought his magic to the game that night. It was brilliant.
The one game that sticks out of my mind when Joe was with KC was the 94 Monday Night Game aginst Denver. That had one of Joe’s top five greatest moments, and I am a 49ers fan. Give me 2:00 minutes left in the game down by four, I am taking Joe Montana as my QB
That game is available on YT
My dad was a life-long Chiefs fan, and a fan of Montana. He loved it when hos favorite team picked up his favorite player.
It was soo nice to see Joe Back. He did good. The Chiefs while good we’re just a little behind the Bills and a couple other AFC teams. He still had magic. His 1st year with the chiefs in the playoffs vs the Steelers and Oilers was a thing of beauty
Every Chiefs fan will always remember the build up to the oilers game, and the win over Buddy Ryan. It was one of the most hyped game of the 90's.
Keith Cash, when he scored on the Oilers in that game, I remember him running over and spiking the football into that big massive Buddy Ryan sign in the end zone and it was awesome.
It’s very special Joe Montana played in Chiefs. Just legendary!
The actual GOAT. Never lost, perfect games, comeback..... actually got hit . I watched his entire career, he’s by far the greatest qb to ever play the game
😂
My response: 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Never lost a superbowl, but still lost plenty in the playoffs including going 1 and done 3 years in a row at one point.
Never had a perfect game. Ever. No one has. Your using the word far too loosely.
Many QB's have had comebacks...
Brady has been sacked 521 times which is second most behind Farve's 525. He will be the most sacked QB in NFL history by the end of the year. He's been hit more then Montana. Montana was simply far more injury prone.
It's been scientifically proven people over glorify the past. Seeing Montana's whole career actually works against you.
@@poizie85g83
Crybrady next season will have played more games than any other player in NFL history besides KICKERS. Of course Brady has been sacked more since he is slow as molasses in January and has played well over 300 games. A tomb stoning and a sack are not the same thing. In fact, send me a link to a video that shows Brady wobbling coming off the field after being tomb stoned. Surely after playing TWENTY LONG YEARS you can find me at least ONE video clip showing that, I mean if Roger Staubach can be concussed TWENTY TIMES as a starting QB for 8 short seasons, surely you can show me ONE little clip huh? I'll wait😂
Lol people actually believe Montana was better than Brady 😂😂😂
When Joe got traded to the Chiefs, I became an instant fan. I mean, Joe Montana handing off to Marcus Allen ?
What a fing epic season!
Look at those QB matchups l
Steve Young Dan Marino Jim Kelly
Brett Favre Warren moon John Elway Vince Evans Scott Mitchell,
what a fantastic era that was.
Troy Aikman!!!
@Funky Tunk I'll take the three rings, thank you!!
@Funky Tunk Wipe your tears. The fortywhiners lost those games. And I'll take the three rings and Aikman over Young .I will also take the Cowboys head to head in the playoffs versus the 49ers. 5 to 2.
Funky Tunk Dude, he was just responding to a comment that was saying the QB matchups back then were so good. Steve Young had already been mentioned by the OP, so Kanard brought up another great QB from that era. Neither he nor the OP said ANYTHING about any QB being better than another QB. Only that it was a great time to be a fan. So, I’m curious as to why you had to take a nice conversation & detour it to dickheadsville. It’s like some people just can’t help being douches.
As the great Michael Jordan once said..
“Stop it. Get some help.”
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Thanks. Funky tank dude, is probably just a troll. . You are correct, I mentioned Troy Aikman, because of great match ups. 👍
My personal memory of Mr Montana will always be that .... inexorable drive at the end of regulation against my beloved Steelers. We felt that injury alone had put us in a wild card spot: at the time we were vying for respect as a top level team again, which in the next few seasons they did get. That drive tore the heart out of Pittsburgh, it was directed under extreme pressure, against tight coverage played by top level players. Montana dissected that defense with perfect passes, thrown from all kinds of silly angles. He was a master surgeon at work. I kicked my television. My dad never even yelled at me for that.
Hey flightmike can you please do a video about Patrick Willis?
Yea he needs to do a video on him. He’s the most underrated LB of all time.
@Jayden Ramirez Weird to say that we got Patrick Willis and Joe Staley in the same draft
No one has ever said the name Joe Montana more in 13 mins than Mike
I still have a Montana jersey. It was in the closet for 20 years. Had to break it out when they made the playoffs with Alex Smith.
I actually have a. Marcus Allen Jersey, Neil Smith and a JJ Birden from back in the day.
Funny you say that because since Alex and Joe went to the same 2 teams I can't tell which team's jersey you're talking about 😂
@@theKeshaWarrior KC
I was 14 and 15 those years nfl was so different then..!!
I was 24 & 25. It really was different. One of the things I’ll always be grateful to Joe for was getting KC to replace that horrible AstroTurf for real grass to make it easier on his back & knees.
Oh, and also beating the donks in the 4th quarter, on MNF, like that fuckhead Elway always did to us!
Man I watch everyone of your vids and it's like I never comment and you absolutely do deserve that. Just want you to keep this stuff up. You're great!
I love these throwbacks of the players that I remember from when I was a lil boy. Thanks
Pumped for this one mike 🤙🏼
I was 19 - 20 yrs old in June , 1980-1981. I was amazed watching Joe Montana, especially in 1983. What an amazing era, watching Joe Montana in the NFL. Never liked San Francisco 49ers, but witnessing Joe Montana, made me want to watch 49ers : Joe Montana. Just amazing QBacking at it's best. Beautiful ERA to watch NFL games. Thank You Joe Montana for your magic in the field. During my twenties was a wonderful - amazing NFL experience: watching Joe Montana and the San Francisco 49ers on the field. Priceless experience. Loved it, and witnessed beautiful NFL Football games at an elite quality level.
Gustavo ZEstrada.
May 12, 2024.
I'm 43 and watched Joe cool a lot when I was a kid. He's the reason I've been a 9ers fan my whole life. Rice ,Lott,Young,Creig, the whole bunch was so fun to watch! So happy you got all this footage together. Thank you
was waiting on this 🐐🐐
Nice 1 Mike! Classic, Historic , Epic and Every other Word imaginable applies To JOE Montana ....
This was pretty good, Mike, keep em coming!
There is no way to overstate exactly how excited the Kansas City fan base was to have Montana as a Chief. This was a time before legends left their long time franchises to extend their career a few more years elsewhere. To imagine Montana playing anywhere but San Francisco was insanity. Kansas City s GM, Carl Peterson could have run for governor of Missouri at the time and won. I've yet to see a team replicate the kind of electricity that immediately took over the franchise, and even the AFC west as a whole, as teams were jacked to host Montana in the AFC. It was largely believed that Montana would be the greatest QB of all time, and if it weren't for Brady, that would probably be true
Awesome video, absolutely love this 💯 %
No matter what happens to you, you still produce great content even though the NFL will charge you a lot of money and more. Keep up the good work 👍
If the NFL had an ounce of sense, they'd recognize the incredible service, by way of exposure, that Miker provides them, free of charge and put him on the f*cking payroll. No one currently providing breakdowns generates nearly the level of excitement that this kid does. It's like watching a f*cking a drama, or maybe a thriller, unfold. There is no hyperbole in that statement. None at all.
I love your videos
I remember the Over/Under lines for NFL games back then were almost always right around 40 points. Kinda crazy to look back and see all those final scores. 17-3, 21-10, 14-0.... the run-heavy days of pro football.
Id like to see you do a video highlighting Marinos failure to get a ring
Love the vids
I went to Arrowhead Stadium to see 49ers vs Chiefs, Steve Young vs Joe Montana. It was so exciting even though 49ers lost. Joe was Great as a Chief QB too.
Nice video. Also, Happy Memorial Day everyone. Hopefully it goes well for you and your family.
He would walk in the water now these days with all the QB overprotection they have now
Yup
Love ur vids
At 2:22, did you say 'A perfect 4-4 record'? Love your video's Bro!!
id love to see a video on the Brady vs Manning Rivalry. its been 6 years since Peyton Retired, and Brady has clearly pulled away. But id love to see a video about the media coverage, narratives, amongst other things
Great videos mike
Omg KC Chiefs Kingdom Loved Joe Montana he's the GOAT thank you JOE 💯❤️
Great video
Sorry to do this again, but Steve Bono is pronounced Bone-O... also a future chief, and holder of the strangest QB scramble in history as a chief.
Mike does this a lot, he also said “thrusted” instead of “thrust”. It’s part of his charm, cause I don’t think he gives a shit. I tried pointing out a French name he pronounced....not French.
I don’t think he really knows that much about the NFL in general
Not to mention Dave Kreeg .
@@thawkereynolds based on his pronunciation?
and also it's Jan [Yahn] Stenerud. Tougher one but still. I was a 15 year old die-hard Chiefs fan when he came to town. It was so cool to see him play in person. I helped park cars for four hours to get a standing room entrance. You could just tell by his body language when he had the opposing defense fooled. You'd see him scramble a little and somebody would say "who's open?" and you just knew he had somebody. Watching a game in person was more eye-opening back then. We had a 27" TV that was enviable at the time, it didn't compare. I'm so grateful we finally got to a super bowl and the best days still appear to be ahead. I do get very nostalgic for that time though.
YAY A VIDEO
Shields was actually a 3rd round pick but it was the Chiefs 1st pick in the draft that year.. Makes Will Shields career look even more impressive.
Do a story on Mr. Butterfingers Dave Kreig!
Damn hearing Tim Barnett’s name is crazy. I went to elementary school with his kids and he’d always compliment me on how good of a student I was. Totally forgot he even played for the chiefs lol
I do remember the 99 yards pass !!
Do a video over Tony Gonzalez please
Top 2 QB of all time 💯💯🐐
Your a great storyteller Mike!
Joe would have been in the SB that year, if not for the pass interference call in the
Raider/Buffalo playoff game. It put the ball 1st and goal for the Bills and was
the difference that won the game. The Raiders would have had to go to KC for the
championship game.
Would love to see some content like this about some non-QB players. For example: A Gates, R Harrison, R Lewis, S Sharpe, T Polamalu, D Sanders, L Taylor, T Brown, W Sapp, A Vinatieri, C Woodson, C Mathews Sr/Jr/III, etc
Love the zubaz shout out. Wearing one of my many pairs.
How about a video of what you don't know about Former Ravens RB Jamal Lewis? Before and after his NFL career ended
As a 49er fan, I really didn’t appreciate how well Joe played in his last 2 years in KC. I was focused on Steve Young. Way to Go, Joe !😅
The Real GOAT
Watch some more football. TB12 is in a league of his own and no one can touch him.
@@Evertreynold
A league of his own playing Puss Ball for TWENTY YEARS. They don't call Crybrady Mr. VOLUME for nothing.
@@thegoat164 Your RUclips name is "The GOAT #16" There is absolutely no way you don't have a huge bias towards Montana. Both of them had advantages and disadvantages. Montana had a huge benefit playing before FA and salary cap with DeBartolo jr. as the team owner.
@@poizie85g83
I also own a recently purchased brand spanking NEW Joe Montana GOAT T-Shirt😉
@@poizie85g83
"Montana had a huge benefit"? No benefit or disadvantage as it was the same for every team. Same with Crybrady, no benefit or disadvantage as the same applies to every team.
Great vid bro, Enjoyed the history lesson. Watching this vid makes me see even clearer on how Tom Brady is basically Joe Montana 2.0 haha
Guess you missed the part how Brady was a Super Bowl MVP at age 39 *LEAGUE MVP* at age 40 and a Super Bowl MVP at age 43. Montana was done at age 38 and losing Wild Card games
Montana in kc was just weird for me at the time but got older realized football was a business
I am a huge 49ers fan I cried when Joe left. I have a KC and a A 49ers Montana jersey. Joe is the real GOAT Brady can keep cheating. Thank you for pointing out that Joe never threw an interception in a Super Bowl. If Joe had a big time wide receiver at KC who’s knows.
Or if he was in his prime he would have probably won them a few superbowls
I typically enjoy your videos, but your mis-pronunciation of Steve Bawn-o, Ed De Bartolo, and Jan Stenerud was brutal!
Right 🤦♂️
Your stats are wrong Marino has the most yards and touchdowns in 84
Wow! Thanks for the memories!
I was absolutely obsessed with the NFL during this time.
I remember when Montana was playing at Notre Dame. I thought he was overrated because he played for the Fightin Irish.
I really loved the NFL then too. I was just a kid and knew all the players on all the teams and would carry my football everywhere.
@@jamesrich3426 Me too. Had a blue Nerf football I carried everywhere!
Plus another 12-15 footballs in my room.
that's crazy. haha. Joe's college coach Dan Devine was called up by the 49ers before picking in the 3rd round because Bill Walsh wanted Steve Dils his QB from Stanford and Carmen Policy wanted Joe so Bill caved and said if they could get one more outside source to make a case for picking Joe then he'd pick Joe. Devine's answer when asked about Joe? "If I had Joe, I'd still be coaching the Green Bay Packers."
If he hadn't had that last concussion I bet he would have played at least the final year, and maybe more. He comes back in 95 and they beat the steelers no question. Then it's The Catch round 2 with Montana versus the Cowboys. Now THAT would have been a hell of a game and end to a legendary career. What might have been...
Joe was the best quarterback ever, and I m in Scotland and know nothing about the NFC or what we called American football. He is a true genius x
JoeMontana. One word as God intended. Just an awesome QB!
Thanks!
Imagine seeing this abt Tom Brady with the bucs in 30 years
Nah...Tampa won the Super Bowl. It won’t be necessary to tell future generations about Brady, he’s been getting fellated for two full decades. Way more than Montana ever was, Brady has already been canonized 😂
It won’t end well for Brady. Should have retired after the COVID super bowl. It never does look at history.
@@dejohnson2277 I think he will retire before he becomes bad. If anyone knows his body it’s him and he thinks he’s got another year atleast in him
@@alexviking9383 I agree with you to a point, but if he gets caught “losing it” in the middle of a season, he’s gonna need to ride it out lol...the likeliness of this happening all of a sudden to a 20-year NFL Vet is low, admittedly...especially to a QB who has never relied on his “athleticism”, necessarily, to perform his job.
Brady is great, it can’t be denied, but the careers of Montana and Brady are so, so different as individuals, but also just the GAME today doesn’t even resemble the NFL Montana played in. Because of rules changes that have, gradually, made passing the be-all and end-all of the NFL, and the numbers of QBs just keep climbing. Brady has NEVER had a bullseye on his back. Montana did. Truly. Look it up. He was purposely KO’d from playoff games vs the Bears and The Giants in the mid-eighties...
Brady gets rid of the ball quickly, that’s part of it, and he is accurate, but he doesn’t have to contend with, say, Aaron Donald, actually AIMING to hurt him, as an actual STRATEGY...
Remember the way he ran over to the Honey Badger in the Super Bowl and talked that trash? Had a QB even THOUGHT of doing that in Montana’s day, he’d have been carted off before the next series was over. Depending on the OPPOSING defense, of course...
@@tuckercarlsonsmicropenis1283 yeah I agree football is definitely a lot different today especially for qbs. Especially for qbs that don’t run much it helps them last longer in the nfl. I doubt Brady will become drastically worse in the middle of the season. Like you said he doesn’t use his athleticism too much in games. His arm is still pretty strong and when you look at ppl like drew brees in his last year who was still winning games with a pretty weak arm, it makes you wonder how long Brady could play
Those dark visors in the 90’s were so dope, ahead of their time
The way they speak about Tom Brady today, they spoke about Montana the same way in the 80's and early 90's.
Montana had no Brady rules. That’s why he was beat to hell, just like Aikman and Young.
@@CC-fo7tr Both had advantages and disadvantages. The rules up until 2006 were still similar to when Montana played.
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Go read my posts which are 6 OP's before this one, OP Tohur.
@@poizie85g83
Stop spreading false information fibber.
Reminds me a lot of a story involving a guy who wears #12 although that one had a happier ending
Aye mike aint his name pronounced “Yan Stenerud”? Or am i tripping?
Mike in my opinion you should take a break I love your videos and I don’t want you to get burnt out like all my other favorite youtubers
I remember watching Joe Montana play at Notre Dame. Yeah, I'm old. He was very low key, but confident, had that swagger even then. 3rd round draft pick. Unreal.
He would have gone higher, but apparently Notre dame coaches bashed him routinely in the run up to the draft.
That MNF game against the Broncos at Mile High. Enuff said.
2:21 perfect 4-4 record 😆
Would like you to do Marcus Allen....
Lets go mike
People who didnt watch joe think of him like he was brady. An immobile pocket QB who operated within Walsh's system
Joe was phenomenal off-script. Accurate rolling left or right. Excellent scrambling to throw.
To his detriment, he would also hold the ball and deliver knowing the big hit was coming.
He was washed up in KC, but still quite good. His elbow was trashed, and he just had no arm strength.
I’m a rams fan but deep down am a Montana fan for sure
Do T.O vs Moss on who had a better career.
Going to kansas city! Kansas city here i come!
not ZOOMBA pants, ZUBAZ pants!!
MORE!!!
They used to show Chiefs games in the San Francisco Bay Area because of Montana.
MONTANA IS THE GOAT FOREVER
Joe was fucking amazing. In an era when you could ride a receiver in coverage like a backpack or blindside spear them while they attempted a catch. When you could aim to injure a qb on every hit. There was no one ever better. His arm wasn’t the strongest or most accurate. What he had is intangible. He flat won. He made the right decision every time and made everyone better around him. He was always cool under pressure and just managed to always beat you somehow. He made the chiefs a contender. His duel with elway on Monday night was one of the best games I’ve ever seen. Montana drove the field for a comeback td with 8 seconds left.
Joe Montana brought pride to our chiefs and he is the goat. Thanks joe for coming to k.c. To play. Wish you would of played another year or two but you are a class act and the greatest QB ever
Truth is Joe in my eyes is the true GOAT if the rules were the same back then as they have been most of Bradys career we would still be calling Joe the GOAT today. if the rules back then were same as bradys career Joe would have played into the 2000s and would have had many more super bowl rings. but back then QBs took hits thus the injuries. Tom is only as good as he is because of the much much fewer hits he has had to take compared to Joe. To be frank Brady wouldn't have been nowhere as good as he is in Joes time
Bradys a few sacks away from being the most hit QB of all time, stop holding on to tha past geezer, Brady is the rightful GOAT
@@patsnation654 and brady has played over 20 yrs at this point of course he has more sacks lol.. nowhere in my comment did I say because of the harden rules does that mean you take less sacks .. what a bootlicker lol.. fact is Joe took way many more hard hits that QBs simply do NOT these days because they are flags now against the def and fact is if the rules were the same back then Joe would have played going into the 2000s and we would be having a different discussion right now lol.. Joe wanted to play for yrs longer and has said he regrets retiring but due to injuries had no choice
@@tohur Simply no way to know how good Brady would be in Montana's era just like you don't know how good Montana would be today. Everything is speculation. Montana had advantages Brady didn't have too. Montana was coached by the greatest offensive mind in NFL history in Bill Walsh. The same coach who had Steve Young go from a 60QBR in Tampa to 120QBR in one season with 49ers. Montana also played before free agency and salary cap. They were one of a few teams who had the resources to stacked their team with talent. Also players in Montana's era were much smaller and slow then today. The game is also far more complex now.
While Montana played less years his teams had a far greater chance of winning the championship compared to today's game.
@@tohur
Crybrady has what you call VOLUME accomplishments accumulated over a 20 year stretch while being protected like Faberge eggs.
Since 1973, passer rating has been the official formula used by the NFL to determine its passing leader.
Due to new rules that favor NFL offenses, such as the roughing the passer penalty, an increase in the number of games, most recently in 1978 (*most recently in 2021), and teams opting to pass more than ever, almost all of the passer rating leaders are quarterbacks from the past two decades. Since 1950, there have been 93 quarterbacks who have finished the season with a passer rating of greater than 100.0, yet 9 of those seasons happened in 2018 alone. Moreover, Steve Young and Joe Montana are the only two quarterbacks whose careers ended prior to 2000 and are among the top 25 passer ratings in NFL history.
Therefor, passer rating is not a valid stat when comparing quarterbacks from two different eras. However, within an era and season itself, passer rating is a much more accurate and reliable stat to measure the true effectiveness of a quarterback.
Steve Young had his best NFL season and won his second MVP award. Steve Young set what was, at the time, the NFL record for highest passer rating in a season - 112.8. Cold Hard Football Facts states that Young's 1994 season is the second greatest passing season in NFL history, behind only Joe Montana's 1989 season.
Joe Montana had one of the greatest statistical passing seasons in NFL history in 1989. Montana set a then-NFL record with a passer rating of 112.4, with a completion percentage of 70.2%, and a 26/8 touchdown-to-interception ratio. In the playoffs, Montana was even more dominate, with a 78.3% completion percentage, 800 yards, 11 touchdowns, no interceptions, and a 146.4 rating. Cold Hard Football Facts calls Montana's 1989 season "the one by which we must measure all other passing seasons."
Montana's Super Bowl stats: 83 completions, 122 pass attempts, 68% completion percentage, 1142 passing yards, 11 passing touchdowns and 2 rushing, no interceptions, and a 127.8 rating. UNMATCHED in NFL history.
The All-Pro designation, while not officially sanctioned by the NFL, is generally considered a more prestigious honor than the NFL's official all-star designation, a Pro Bowl recognition: a minimum of twice as many Pro Bowlers are selected as first and second team All-Pro slots combined, and Pro Bowl selections often drop out, allowing a lesser player to also receive the honor by default, which does not occur with the All-Pro list.
Tom Brady 3x First team All-Pro (2007, 2010, 2017)
Tom Brady 2x Second team All-Pro (2005, 2016)
5x All-Pro in 19 starting seasons is 26%
Joe Montana 3x First team All-Pro (1987, 1989, 1990)
Joe Montana 3x Second team All-Pro (1981, 1983, 1984)
6x All-Pro in 12 starting seasons is 50%
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"Simply no way to know how good Brady would be in Montana's era just like you don't know how good Montana would be today. Everything is speculation." That's not true, NFL history shows us that Montana would thrive in today's NFL and Brady in Montana's era would not fair so well. For one thing, in Montana's era there was no TUCK RULE or TWO PT CONVERSIONS, that's 2 SB's right there that do not happen. I also laid out in an earlier post about passer rating, the top 35 passer ratings are all QBs that played in the 21st century other than STEVE YOUNG AND JOE MONTANA. The next QB with the highest passer rating that didn't play in the 21st century is OTTO GRAHAM who has the 36th highest passer rating. So we know that Brady's numbers would be way lower than what they are today and Montana's in today's game would be much higher. In Montana's era a QB's level of play declined after the age of 35 from taking massive hits. So no winning SB's at the age of 41 and 43 years old as that would be fantasy land in Montana's era. That's 4 Brady SBs out the window at MINIMUM.
When Montana was TOMB STONED by Jim Burt in the 1986 divisional playoff commentator Pat Summerall said and I quote "NOTHING dirty, NOTHING unnecessary, LEGITIMATE by Burt!!!" unquote. Brady has his helmet grazed and it's 15 free yards and automatic first down every time. After Brady took a love tap from Bernard Pollard the 2008 season and tore his ACL the NFL made a new Brady rule, no lunging at a QB's legs. There's a REASON why almost all of the passer rating leaders are from the 21st century. This is not "speculation" but FACT!!! Montana had several concussions during his career as well as numerous other injuries. Steve Young and Troy Aikman retired because of concussions and Roger Staubach suffered TWENTY concussions during his career and he was a starting QB for 8 short seasons.
Brady has played PUSS BALL for 20 years and has not one documented concussion.
An NFL statement said all reports from unaffiliated neurotrauma consultants and certified athletic trainer spotters at 2016 Patriot games showed "there are no records that indicate that Mr. Brady suffered a head injury or concussion, or exhibited or complained of concussion symptoms." Now isn't that interesting?
Players that have won more Chips than GOAT players have:
GOAT WR Jerry Rice (3x SB Champ) WR Lynn Swann (4x SB Champ) WR John Stallworth (4x SB Champ)
GOAT CB Deion Sanders (2x SB Champ) CB Mel Blount (4x SB Champ) CB Eric Wright (4x SB Champ)
GOAT LB Lawrence Taylor (2x SB Champ) LB Charles Haley (5x SB Champ) LB Bill Romanowski (4x SB Champ)
GOAT QB Joe Montana (4x SB Champ) QB Tom Brady (7x SB Champ)
GOAT Michael Jordan (6x NBA Champ) Bill Russell (11x NBA Champ)
GOAT Wayne Gretzky (4x SC Champ) Mark Messier (6x SC Champ) several players 6+ SC Champ
Yogi Berra 10x WS Champ but is he the GOAT of MLB???
Noti gang babyyy
Thank you , Joe
Please make a Steve DeBerg video (broken thumb playoffs. Best play fake QB, oldest starter, MENTOR TO 3 Hall of fame Qbs'S)
QB’s got punished in those days. That Marshall hit in 1990 NFC Championship game wouldn’t happen today. Maybe we would’ve never seen Steve Young thrive as a 49er and Joe Montana would’ve been the Niners QB until 1995?
I’ve never heard of someone needing so much likes until I found you mike
Do one on Craig Morton during the 77 season he had with the Denver Broncos
In the thumbnail....That was Bruce right after he hit Joe really hard in the AFC Championship game...just to see if he was okay lol Joe had literally nothing to work with minus Marcus Allen who was in the twilight. JJ Birden was good but just too small especially in that era which was much more physical. The same could be said of Willie Davis but Davis had a habit of dropping passes...Montana had 54+ surgeries in his career. 2 of which could have ended his career......Theres a reason QBs didnt play as long back then, it was just a more physical game, especially for QBS. Im in my 40s now, I lived it, but overall good video.
The GOAT!