It's a shame we don't have an expert in the cast for this arc. Out of all of the iconic 80s horror movies, Nightmare on Elm Street probably has a lot of interesting pieces to it's creation.
And today I just learned how much Dew Barrymore was involved in the making of scream. Apparently she suggested Wes Craven as director, and it was her idea to be the first killed among other things
Freddy really is the only killer that can get away with the whole "playing with his food" thing since what can anyone really do to stop him? Given that every single way they beat Freddy is different, even the writers don't know what to do against him.
For a comparison, Pennywise from It scares kids because they apparently taste better that way. Creepy as hell in concept, but there reaches a point where the kids are somehow an actual threat to him and even come back as adults, and the audience is left wondering why he doesn’t just kill and eat them at that point. Freddy though is basically a reality warper in the dream world that can do whatever he wants, and the victims that wake up usually do so by dumb luck or major preparing. Heck, he had no idea he could get dragged into the real world at that point either.
I'm pretty sure it's later established that he has to play with his food because his power is fear based and the victim's mind is always struggling against him, he has to make them shit themselves and become vulnerable before he is actually able to kill his victims, he can't just instantly kill them.
@@spacevagabond4017. Yeah It really doesn’t work as a story. I remember watching the newest adaptation and I kept wondering “Jesus why does this dumb clown keep popping up just to scare these kids? Why doesn’t he just kill them already?” It really makes him look like a very ineffective villain since he can’t kill an asthmatic 11 year old
We know from RLM that the movie ending we got was just to set up a sequel. The 'Happy ending' which can be found on the Blu-Ray has Nancy and her friends drive off in the car into the mist whilst the girls play jump rope and it fades to black. It's a very simple ending but effectively wraps up the story and leaves the audience with a sense of unease whereas the actual ending undoes Nacy's victory over Freddy. I feel that the Happy ending is the true ending of the movie and can understand completely why Wes & others were not happy with the theatrical ending. If you go in the comments on the alternate ending videos, many agreed that the happy ending was the better choice.
It’s often said that that most difficult part of military special forces training is the sleep deprivation. I’ve read that during the U.S. Navy SEAL “Hell Week” that trainees are given 3-4 hours of sleep for the entire week. Not 3-4 hours a night, 3-4 hours FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK. Apparently, the physical challenges, while strenuous, aren’t what get a lot of people to quit; it’s being literally out of your mind tired.
@@smittyDXPS3 He was OP like is the case of every single new killer that gets released because the devs didn't play test him in the sandbox, but he got nerfed to hell and he's one of the worst killers now.
@@Astroman10 I’ll also add there’s been a lot of fan made death battles written and Freddy is such a punching bag for the vast majority of fights that it’s almost a running gag. Mainly because they all use the legitimate logic of, “In the dream world, Freddy takes it, but once he’s pulled into the real world, he’s screwed.” Only time I remember him winning was when they included him basically being fused to the necronomicon from the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comic, which allowed him to use his dream powers in the real world too.
The parents are the ones who are cursed. The parents hunted down and killed Freddy, so now their off spring are the ones being hunted by Demon Freddy, that's the curse. Nancy just happens to live in Freddy's old house.
I don't think this was intended to be Freddy's house in the first film. I think that's something the sequals added because they got confused about why the house was focused on so much
ok fun fact, bear with me on this one: So @22:09 the film Nancy is watching is The Evil Dead by Sam Raimi; in the Evil Dead, there is a shredded poster of Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes. In that film there was a shredded poster of Jaws. Now Wes said it was a poke at "this is how you do real horror films." So Raimi took that and used one of Wes posters to say he could do it better. So when Nancy is falling asleep watching The Evil Dead, it was a little back and forth Wes Craven and Sam Raimi had between each other (it wasn't scary enough, she practically fell asleep) It was a friendly nod they gave to each other in their movies. If I remember right in the Evil Dead 2, there's a glove with knives found in the basement. Finally at 25:14, there is a song called Is It Just A Dream (Strength Mix) by a group called Sequential that uses the voice there... Story time over!
I really worry about Rags sometimes, he gets so confused by anything slightly different from his own experience 😂 "blue cabinets! Floaty thing in bath! Wat's going on! Why things!" 🤣
@@PeterBlewett and if they had mixed feelings on the first one, I feel like they’re going to pump up it’s rating numbers after looking at some of the sequels.
That horrifying moment when you find out some of the reactors you respect the most are so much younger than you that they haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street.
the disturbing thing about the NIghtmare on Elm Street movies is, that if you have nightmares about Freddy, you can't be sure whether it's just a nightmare or Freddy is really gunning for you
My parents bathtub when i was growing up had skirting tile like that and my mom had one of those inflatable bath neck pillows. Apparently that was just 80s/90s midwest bathroom aesthetic
I’ve had that exact thing in my own dreams (nightmares) many times. The more effort you put into trying to run the slower you are, it’s quite weird, but hey, dreams.
@@Right_Said_Brettthis whole episode felt like a real whoosh. The movie is pretty explicit about the plan to bring Freddy into the real world, and yet they seemed stumped by it.
I always thought that the reason Freddy came back was because he was an ugly truth everyone tried to forget, but couldn't. The legal system screwed up so badly, the parents of Elm St. were forced to take the law into their own hands and cover up what they did. No matter how you try to the cover the truth, it's still there, like a hazard waiting for someone to stumble into it, maybe even your own children. The authorities failed, and it could happen again. You can try drinking until you forget, you can distract yourself with fast food and pretty girls and TV, but it doesn't change the facts. Nancy defeats Freddy by facing the truth, she wants to know what happened, no matter how ugly it was. I love Nancy, she's one of my heroes. This movie is a classic.
I've always loved the idea of being able to die (or be murdered) in your sleep as a great premise for this film. They don't mention it on this re-cap but Freddy does say "I'll get your childeren, where you can't protect them, in their dreams!" and that's a pretty solid idea. I do agree looking back that Wes could have done more with that Buuuuut as Mauler says "It was a different time" besides the term 'slasher flick' hadn't really took a negative connotation when this was released.
Freddy made a deal with the devil. It isn't based on memories, at least not the first few movies. I remember it was in FvJ though. It's odd that it's here, since nobody, save the parents, knew of Freddy and it took a good while before he started killing people. So it's odd that memories would bring him back when the people who would remember him would face him years later, and not days later. Unless one of them suddenly had a massive remembering of Freddy.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx If I recall, no one said anything about Freddy making a deal with anyone until the sixth movie, which was so idiotic I don't care. I wouldn't go by anything said in FvJ either. I think that's the first time Freddy actually wanted people to remember him, which flies in the face of the original. If Freddy got power from people remembering him, then Nancy would've been to blame for getting her friends killed with all her digging around, her parents would've been right to gaslight her, and she should've simply drank herself into a coma like her mom. It makes no sense, and it can't be true because Fred was haunting them before Nancy knew anything about him. Fred was able to do his thing because no one talked about what happened, he was a problem that got tucked away improperly, the parents of Elm St. couldn't admit what they did even to their own children, which left them vulnerable. Nancy is the hero because she discovered the truth in spite of all hazards, and saved her friends...until Robert Shaye tacked on that silly extra ending with the car.
@@ShamanKyrick It differs by state, but even the most restrictive have the legal age of consent being 18. Some states have it as low as 14, like we're in the medieval era or something. Other states have more complicated laws like, age of consent is 14+, but only up to 3 years senior. So a 17 year old can fuck at 14 year old, but a 18 year old can't. This is typically done so that highschools aren't hotbeds of statutory rape.
@@ShamanKyrickLegal age for sex is 16 with parental permission, 18 without. 21 for US and possibly UK for drinking, 18 for Australia. 18 for America and owning guns, possibly the same for both UK and Australia.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx In the UK you're considered an adult at 18 and the only things you can't do until you're 21 is adopt a child. The rest is all different vehicles you can drive now and apply for piloting license
Freddy really had some bad luck, if he waited a little bit and fiddled with kids nowadays he'd probably just get cancelled on Twitter and some RUclipsrs would make videos exposing him... Which isn't even that bad because there is barely any reason to be on Twitter and RUclips would probably take down those videos for harassment anyway.
Yeah me too, I didn't sleep for days man.... I feel they are too young, for them it's goofy and not scary but they grew up with modern movies... How old is mauler?
@@C3dr4c I'm not sure but having a full panel of people watching instead of setting the mood probably made it less scary. But I wish there was more appreciation of things.
1:21 should've had a cutaway to 'The Mummy Returns' with that guy that says everything is cursed. "This is cursed, that is cursed." Would've been funny
You objectively can’t say that something is quote un quote “dated” when it has endured, actually made people scared, has been engrained into pop culture, and has remained popular for 40 years. That’s not dated, that’s timeless. Most horror movies now a days can’t even last 40 days let alone maintain your attention for 40 minutes. But this movie has remained popular and beloved and has lasted for 4 decades! That is a legitimate achievement that is well deserved and very few horror films can make that claim!
Well said! Name a recent horror film or franchise which has become iconic. Ring? Saw? Anything else? Certainly nothing in the last 10 years that I can think of.
@@samuel5591Friday the Thirteenth, Halloween, Childs Play. Chainsaw Texas Massacre might be one. And those are better done tbh, as much as I like NoES.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx That's why he said "recent". All of those are from before the 90s, even. In the past 10 years? Nothing. It's the same with all franchises though. They're all basically old geezers now, nothing new has endured.
Rags point is that it feels random for him to single out the children of the adults who killed him. Killing the kids, maybe letting the parents know it was him *and then* the parents? Cool, pretty visceral and awesome, but that isn't the case, he's just going after their children (and only one of the parents finds out) which is pretty lame - and why has he started doing this now? The movie never explains.
@@VinnieMF Its not random. He was a child killer in life and now he is punishing the parents by continuing his work in death where there is nothing they can do to protect them. Needing to know every single rule of how the supernatural dream demon operates is the type of tism that ruined the later films.
Seriously they blab through the whole movie and can't even understand the simple mechanics set up. "Why Freddy is after them" "why nancy can pull him from the dream realm" "Movie has no stakes because things can happen anytime" No its just when they're asleep you dolts.
I don't think they're surprised. They're just baffled at how it would work. I remember when I saw it the second time as a teen, I kept wondering what the rules were. He couldn't do his dream stuff in the real world, yet somehow dragged the mother into the bed, yet also came back and then died again. The ending made things worse because it's like, are they in the real world, the dream world or a mix of both? Will Nancy wake up? Are her friends dead, or are they alive since it implies she's been dreaming the whole time? Somehow he can harm people and influence them (dragging the first girl onto the roof or burning Nancy, hanging the guy or dragging JD into the bed for a blood fountain) but at the same time he can't teleport, can't change his appearance, can't do a thousand different things to get Nancy yet can drag mother down into hell not hell. It's one of those films that, while they were great at the time, end up having more questions than answers and leaves people wondering as to what happened. And not in a good way either. It isn't like at the end of The Thing, where the last two survivors are just done, both the alien and the human, with us not knowing who is who and knowing they're most likely gonna die.
@@CommanderZx2 But Rifftrax watches and understands a movie (as best as one can) before recording the riffing of it. If I watched A New Hope, made jokes over the parts where they talk about the force, then claimed that the parts with the force that come later are unexplained and goobery, it’s kind of a waste of everyone’s time.
Jason gets his power from how many victims he kills and how many times he comes back to life. Freddy gets his power from the pain and fear he causes in his victims.
Freddy Vs Jason establishes that Freddy can only come back to haunt people who remember him so the Elm Street parents/authorities try to keep future generations from knowing about him
@@Lobsterwithinternet That was actually a script treatment meant for NOES 6, I believe. Freddy Kruger became a joke in Springwood to the point where the local teens would take sleeping pills just to screw with him. He's a sad and pathetic shadow of his former self. One night, though, he manages to kill one of the teens fucking with him accidentally. This leads to his power growing again and, little by little, he claws (heh) his way back to being the feared man of your dreams he was previously.
While I think Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees are neat slasher villains and are scarier by technicality, I will always prefer characters like Freddy Kreuger and Chucky because they bring a cheeky personality you'll never forget or tire of even when the films they're in suck.
You, maybe. Me? Not so much. It’s what you describe that drove me away from both franchises after each’s first film. Well, second in the case of Freddy.
@@SumDumGyI prefer the silent ones. They're far more creepier and scarier than a villain who clowns around. When Myers or Voorhees just move out of the darkness towards a victim, that's scary. It's out of focus, out in the side, but it's looming towards you, the camera and the focal point with an intention of murder. There's no reasoning, no rhyme. You can't bargain. It's why Terminator is a great film for horror. Alien as well. An enemy you can't kill, can't reason with, can't stall, always hunting you, creeping forwards.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx I can agree with that wholeheartedly. It’s also probably part of the reason why I prefer the second Nightmare on Elm Street in a lot of ways. Freddy is much quieter and I’m pretty sure all his dialogue is serious when he has it.
Mauler does a surprisingly good spooky voice. He could definitely be the next Vincent Price if Hollywood was interested in doing Vincent Price things anymore.
There's actually deleted scenes that explain how all of the kids that are killed had a older sibling that was also killed by Freddy. And they initially made Freddy a child molester but they changed it because of some news story at the time where kids were being molested in some school systematically.
It later turned out that the kids lied. Or, rather, that the adults encouraged the kids to lie (especially the child psychologists). Lots of people's lives were ruined. This was later used as a plot point in the remake.
I guess what they were asking was how and why did Freddy decide to start killing them now? The movie gives no rhyme or reason, the killings just suddenly started happening. Take Steven King's IT for a better example. Pennywise has been killing children consistently every few decades and then goes back into hibernation to start they cycle over, and the entire town is effected by IT's influence. All the adults are apathetic and psychologically manipulated into ignoring the terrible things happening to the town's children.
@@noraye2500 The story is clunky for sure. But there was a deleted scene that explains how all the kids had older siblings that were killed before them.
@@noraye2500 The story is clunky for sure. But there was a deleted scene that explains how all the kids had older siblings that were killed before them.
@@noraye2500Exactly. It's been a good few years, and now he's killing them? They clearly were young enough not to know of the murders, yet now Freddy just appears? It's why I don't like the whole "he needs to be remembered" thing people came up with for later films. Who remembered him now after all these years, and why?
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx I assume the parents, in regards to that specific rule. Hell, I was under the impression none of the teens were even alive when Freddy was killed. Or so young they had no concept of him, because Nacy didn't know his name.
I’ve done it before and it’s real nice. Though it is a bit of a trade off, since a regular machine makes a bit too much coffee for one person. Best solutions for that are either a smaller machine or a keurig (though the latter isn’t quite as potent as a regular machine in my experience).
Fun fact: Jackie earl hale brought Johnny depp to the audition and lost the part he wanted to him. And led to a 30 year quest for revenge on the movie series that scorned him.
As an old, it is so weird to find that no one in this group have seen more than 2 of these. I would've guessed that spooky ol MoopLer had surely seen them all. They were aired on TV all the time in the long long ago
The very 1st time I’ve ever seen this movie was renting it on the 80’s released Media VHS tape from a local rental store that did 5/5/5 deals, meaning 5 movies for $5 for 5 nights. I have very fond memories watching this movie many, many times on a Friday and/or Saturday night since I had this movie on VHS during the late 90’s & early 2000’s.
@@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep we would rent videos every now & then and get food for dinner. This was also during the time when I was collecting the original McFarlane Movie Maniacs figures.
@@EpicJasonX9000 awesome lol. Yeah me and my cousin would always walk up there and rent B horror movies. Like "I spit on your grave" and even the "faces of death" series. Our parents allowed us to rent rated R movies and told the workers lol. Better times.
This movie is really playing it loose with Freddy's abilities. Sometimes he has to chase his victims in the dream (sometimes for shits and giggles, but against Nancy he struggles) and other times he just has you instantly. Like, Glen, as gory, horrifying and cool as that death was, Freddy just did an insta-kill. Like, shouldn't he technically be able to do that as soon as you nod off?
As far as the books on traps and stuff, that kind of thing was actually something you could find in a books store back then, it was a reference to the anarchist cookbook which had instructions on how to make improvised explosives and LSD in it. My highschool had a copy of it. This series kind of follows original the evil dead series where it was unintentionally goofy then steer into it in part 2 and 3.... and turns into just cringe money grabs afterwards.
How did all 8 of them miss the exposition about why Freddy is hunting those kids? It's literally the exact same motivation as Willy in the Treehouse of Horror.
I think they did but kept referencing it like they didn't. They tend to do this from time to time. Happened, I believe, in the RE movie arc a couple times, and I believe in one of the war arcs as well.
Dude…….are you aware of what this whole channel is about? It’s literally the point of this show is they clown on the movies they watch. Mystery Science Theater 3000 style.
@@canderoussnurd4265 do you? Because I seem to recall EFAP starting out with MauLer & Wolf debating some rando trying to defend TLJ and they consistently keep referring themselves as critics and not comedians. And ultimately it doesn’t matter because many other people have pointed out that 8 people talking & joking has caused them to miss certain plot details and they’ve made some pretty bad arguments as a result. Being entertaining is not an excuse for making bad arguments, otherwise, we would be excuse RedLetterMedia and their “starving kids in Africa” statement.
It’s also difficult to listen to their critiques when you have 8 people talking over each other constantly and spewing jokes every 5 seconds. It’s the easiest way to miss plot details and the chat here is calling then out for it. Which they should. We shouldn’t just keep giving EFAP infinite passes and blindly agreeing with them over every single thing that they say just because you find them entertaining and/or funny. We should hold them accountable for their hot takes and bad arguments just like everyone else.
@@EpicJasonX9000 Dude. It’s not binary. You can be a critic as well as a comedian. And you’re unable to understand them because of so many people talking then what can I say other than watch something else. They have tons of videos that have just the four main guys. Look on the bright side. At least it’s not RLM where they’re just contrarian pseudo hipsters that base their enjoyment on seventy different layers of irony. (Not like back in the day when they were more grounded with their takes.
@@ShamanKyrick2 is definitely good from an entertainment level. It gets very unintentionally funny by the end. Hell, even Wes Craven (who was absent from the creation of all but 1, 3, and New Nightmare) said that Freddy "starts to look really silly." in it. And this was before the era where Freddy became a pop culture reference dispenser in later movies.
Honestly, given the dream killing and experiencing horrible events at a young age, this could be seen as a metaphor for trauma or something. This guy killed 20 kids the same age as you. Thats something that sticks with you
@@olabandola100 No, it was the original intent. They only changed the line to “child killer” from what he really was to avoid accusation of taking advantage of some real stuff that happened at the time.
The Dad is like a boyfriend from a romance novel he won't believe anything you say until it's too late. On part 3 Freddy came back as skeleton and the Dad was still like wait a minute I think I know that skeleton. It's really you!
When I was younger, I tried to see how long I could stay awake, I made it just under 72 hours and started hallucinating that the pillows were moving like caterpillars, just kind of folding in on themselves and sliding. Once I saw that, it was like, "Okay, that's enough, time for a lot of sleep."
@@Maikeru_Dabittsu Coffin of Andy and Leyley. A VN point and click. Telling the story of a toxic relationship between a brother and sister. As they feed into each other
These movies scared the absolute crap out of me as an 80s kid that wasn't supposed to be watching them. Jason never did, Mike Myers never did, but Freddy? Lets just say in my entire life I've had exactly three nightmares with him in it, and I *still* (over 30+ years later) remember what happened in each of them. Good stuff. 😄🤌 (honorable mention to the Hellraiser movies for the fear factor, those scared the bejeezus out of me too)
So I doubt I’m that much older than some of you and I know there’s a lot of movies you’ve seen that I haven’t but I’m always surprised when I find out that you haven’t seen some of these movies. Granted I had parents that recorded everything on hbo to tape. Keep up the good work
My advice is to look at the 70's horror films (I'm 34 btw) there's a lot more I like about the 70's horror films because they seem to focus around real people and what the worst of real humans can do to each other. "It could happen to you" Don't Go In The House is pretty cool, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes are all possible situations unlike modern "ahh it's a jumpscare! Oh yeah I paid £10 to watch this" kind of vibe. But yeah I thik the 70's horror movies while slow paced, have a very unique quality to them :)
1:11 I heard on some podcast that technically Freddy's a type Shadow people; there's a variant known for looking like they have hats(?). His story is loosely based on some Laotian counterrevolutionaries who emigrated to the states then started dying in their sleep, claiming a vengeful spirit was hunting them down for failing to stop the Communists. 23:27 The Wheel of Time books sorta have a version of Freddy that uses a gun - well, a bow and arrow. The books have a dream world where the rules are basically the same as Elm Street, and a character gets into dreamworld bow-sniping matches against a villain simply called Slayer.
Fun fact: The stunt double on the stairs nearly died filming that scene due to an over-commitment issue.
He also won Stuntman of the year for it. #worth
It's a shame we don't have an expert in the cast for this arc. Out of all of the iconic 80s horror movies, Nightmare on Elm Street probably has a lot of interesting pieces to it's creation.
...wait until rags discovers carpeted bathrooms was a thing
Those soft toilet seats
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Literally sitting on daggers when they get old
My grandma's bathroom was carpeted. It was weird.
To quote an involuntary Hasan content creator "Piss absorbent object."
@@wretchardkimball9049 i'm just old enough to be at the tail end of that trend it was weird
Without this film: there would be no Lord of the Rings trilogy. Hail to Bob Shaye and the House That Freddy Built.
What?
@@greatclubsandwich5612 this franchise saved New Line Cinema
@@kennystephens7098 Holy shit...
And today I just learned how much Dew Barrymore was involved in the making of scream. Apparently she suggested Wes Craven as director, and it was her idea to be the first killed among other things
More Fun Fact:
Peter Jackson pen'd an early script for either 5 or 6, and that was his intro into New Line
Freddy really is the only killer that can get away with the whole "playing with his food" thing since what can anyone really do to stop him? Given that every single way they beat Freddy is different, even the writers don't know what to do against him.
For a comparison, Pennywise from It scares kids because they apparently taste better that way. Creepy as hell in concept, but there reaches a point where the kids are somehow an actual threat to him and even come back as adults, and the audience is left wondering why he doesn’t just kill and eat them at that point.
Freddy though is basically a reality warper in the dream world that can do whatever he wants, and the victims that wake up usually do so by dumb luck or major preparing. Heck, he had no idea he could get dragged into the real world at that point either.
I'm pretty sure it's later established that he has to play with his food because his power is fear based and the victim's mind is always struggling against him, he has to make them shit themselves and become vulnerable before he is actually able to kill his victims, he can't just instantly kill them.
And Death, The Wolf.
@@spacevagabond4017. Yeah It really doesn’t work as a story. I remember watching the newest adaptation and I kept wondering “Jesus why does this dumb clown keep popping up just to scare these kids? Why doesn’t he just kill them already?” It really makes him look like a very ineffective villain since he can’t kill an asthmatic 11 year old
Well, doesn't fear make Freddy stronger so of course he's going to terrorize each of his victims before he kills them.
Apparently Wes Craven wanted a happy ending for this movie, where everyone came back to life because the whole movie was a dream.
Really? I am not sure how I feel about that.
When does Craven ever like a happy moment though :D
If this is true, then I'm thankful he didn't go through with it.
Wes wanted it, Bob Shaye said “hold my blowup doll”
We know from RLM that the movie ending we got was just to set up a sequel. The 'Happy ending' which can be found on the Blu-Ray has Nancy and her friends drive off in the car into the mist whilst the girls play jump rope and it fades to black. It's a very simple ending but effectively wraps up the story and leaves the audience with a sense of unease whereas the actual ending undoes Nacy's victory over Freddy. I feel that the Happy ending is the true ending of the movie and can understand completely why Wes & others were not happy with the theatrical ending. If you go in the comments on the alternate ending videos, many agreed that the happy ending was the better choice.
I’ve basically stayed up 3 days and let me tell you… it’s like being doped up and not understanding anything. Micro naps and lost time.
I've done 4 with some "assistance" & yeah by about hour 30 I was a zombie 😂
@@ViolentMessiah666 oh it’s not pleasant and catching up on sleep after took about a week lol
Jesus, I've only gotten to 2 and it was awful. Almost crashed my car with those sudden black outs 😂
@@VinnieMFOh, that shit was terrifying
It’s often said that that most difficult part of military special forces training is the sleep deprivation. I’ve read that during the U.S. Navy SEAL “Hell Week” that trainees are given 3-4 hours of sleep for the entire week. Not 3-4 hours a night, 3-4 hours FOR THE ENTIRE WEEK. Apparently, the physical challenges, while strenuous, aren’t what get a lot of people to quit; it’s being literally out of your mind tired.
This film helped me realize why he sucks at killing in Dead by Daylight. It’s just canon.
Just one more rework bro. One more and he'll stop being F tier.
I played him when he first released, wasn't he insanely broken in competitive play?
i once played a new nob who didn't know how to pull you into the dream world free game🤣
@@smittyDXPS3 He was OP like is the case of every single new killer that gets released because the devs didn't play test him in the sandbox, but he got nerfed to hell and he's one of the worst killers now.
@@Astroman10 I’ll also add there’s been a lot of fan made death battles written and Freddy is such a punching bag for the vast majority of fights that it’s almost a running gag. Mainly because they all use the legitimate logic of, “In the dream world, Freddy takes it, but once he’s pulled into the real world, he’s screwed.”
Only time I remember him winning was when they included him basically being fused to the necronomicon from the Freddy vs Jason vs Ash comic, which allowed him to use his dream powers in the real world too.
The parents are the ones who are cursed. The parents hunted down and killed Freddy, so now their off spring are the ones being hunted by Demon Freddy, that's the curse.
Nancy just happens to live in Freddy's old house.
Nancy isn't unrelated; her mother and father were part of the mob that killed Freddy. She falls under the curse just like Tina, Rod, and Glen.
@@GiovanniPrince Thank you for the correction, fixing my post.
I don't think this was intended to be Freddy's house in the first film. I think that's something the sequals added because they got confused about why the house was focused on so much
@@Cyberleader672 I can see it being reconned in. Still it became a plot point in the later series.
Was there ever any evidence I can’t recall in the films that a Freddy ever lived in that house?
ok fun fact, bear with me on this one: So @22:09 the film Nancy is watching is The Evil Dead by Sam Raimi; in the Evil Dead, there is a shredded poster of Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes. In that film there was a shredded poster of Jaws. Now Wes said it was a poke at "this is how you do real horror films." So Raimi took that and used one of Wes posters to say he could do it better. So when Nancy is falling asleep watching The Evil Dead, it was a little back and forth Wes Craven and Sam Raimi had between each other (it wasn't scary enough, she practically fell asleep) It was a friendly nod they gave to each other in their movies. If I remember right in the Evil Dead 2, there's a glove with knives found in the basement.
Finally at 25:14, there is a song called Is It Just A Dream (Strength Mix) by a group called Sequential that uses the voice there... Story time over!
Cheers for that man, that's really cool
It was a connected Cinematic Universe all along! °0°
the necronomicon is also randomly in the Voorhees family Home in Jason goes to Hell.
Neat!
Burn victim representation is strong with this one.
I imagine part of the horror of freddy is how much he likes to fuck with his victims.
Now whether or not you find him scary is another thing.
Pretty much exactly that because as EFAP pointed out, he can do anything the second they end up dreaming.
I’ve always thought
of Freddy as “if you took the Joker, gave him superpowers, and
made him immortal”.
I really worry about Rags sometimes, he gets so confused by anything slightly different from his own experience 😂 "blue cabinets! Floaty thing in bath! Wat's going on! Why things!" 🤣
He does come across as bring high sometimes. Doesn’t he? 🤣
Tbf it comes along when he is bored or is in a playful mood.
It's the American mind virus of forgetting the world has other places in it that aren't the USA.
A Nightmare on Elm Street is a great horror movie while simultaneously being a goofy product of its time. It's why I love it.
Even the bad stuff is good.
@@PeterBlewett and if they had mixed feelings on the first one, I feel like they’re going to pump up it’s rating numbers after looking at some of the sequels.
@@righteousindifference3179 Exactly. It's pretty great up until the ending which is a bit of a letdown.
@@spacevagabond4017 I'm curious to see what they think.
Had the exact same thought.
That horrifying moment when you find out some of the reactors you respect the most are so much younger than you that they haven't seen Nightmare on Elm Street.
the disturbing thing about the NIghtmare on Elm Street movies is, that if you have nightmares about Freddy, you can't be sure whether it's just a nightmare or Freddy is really gunning for you
Right, I hadn't even thought of that. That's gotta suck
My parents bathtub when i was growing up had skirting tile like that and my mom had one of those inflatable bath neck pillows. Apparently that was just 80s/90s midwest bathroom aesthetic
6:12 That's... because it's a nightmare, MauLer. Like the infamous thing about nightmares where you can't run.
Yeah that was embarrassing on Mauler's part
*The EFAP audience will remember that...*
Yeah, that was a real *woosh* moment for Mauler's head.
I’ve had that exact thing in my own dreams (nightmares) many times. The more effort you put into trying to run the slower you are, it’s quite weird, but hey, dreams.
@@Right_Said_Brettthis whole episode felt like a real whoosh. The movie is pretty explicit about the plan to bring Freddy into the real world, and yet they seemed stumped by it.
Hears Powerwolf
Checks description
Yep. Edited by Wolf
To be fair, Mauler is a fan of Powerwolf, too.
As everyone should be.
@@samuel5591 yes
I hope someone comments on the soundtrack. This films soundtrack is so good
I always thought that the reason Freddy came back was because he was an ugly truth everyone tried to forget, but couldn't. The legal system screwed up so badly, the parents of Elm St. were forced to take the law into their own hands and cover up what they did. No matter how you try to the cover the truth, it's still there, like a hazard waiting for someone to stumble into it, maybe even your own children. The authorities failed, and it could happen again. You can try drinking until you forget, you can distract yourself with fast food and pretty girls and TV, but it doesn't change the facts. Nancy defeats Freddy by facing the truth, she wants to know what happened, no matter how ugly it was. I love Nancy, she's one of my heroes. This movie is a classic.
I've always loved the idea of being able to die (or be murdered) in your sleep as a great premise for this film. They don't mention it on this re-cap but Freddy does say "I'll get your childeren, where you can't protect them, in their dreams!" and that's a pretty solid idea. I do agree looking back that Wes could have done more with that Buuuuut as Mauler says "It was a different time" besides the term 'slasher flick' hadn't really took a negative connotation when this was released.
Freddy made a deal with the devil. It isn't based on memories, at least not the first few movies. I remember it was in FvJ though. It's odd that it's here, since nobody, save the parents, knew of Freddy and it took a good while before he started killing people. So it's odd that memories would bring him back when the people who would remember him would face him years later, and not days later. Unless one of them suddenly had a massive remembering of Freddy.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx If I recall, no one said anything about Freddy making a deal with anyone until the sixth movie, which was so idiotic I don't care. I wouldn't go by anything said in FvJ either. I think that's the first time Freddy actually wanted people to remember him, which flies in the face of the original. If Freddy got power from people remembering him, then Nancy would've been to blame for getting her friends killed with all her digging around, her parents would've been right to gaslight her, and she should've simply drank herself into a coma like her mom. It makes no sense, and it can't be true because Fred was haunting them before Nancy knew anything about him. Fred was able to do his thing because no one talked about what happened, he was a problem that got tucked away improperly, the parents of Elm St. couldn't admit what they did even to their own children, which left them vulnerable. Nancy is the hero because she discovered the truth in spite of all hazards, and saved her friends...until Robert Shaye tacked on that silly extra ending with the car.
@@gram440a For me it was around the third movie, possibly second where the director said his origin was a deal with the devil.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx There's a perfectly good origin story in the original film, I see no reason to replace it with one from a sequel.
Werewolf? Where wolf?
Miss wolf. 🐺🍕
Every time I find out Wolf is stil around - my heart melts.
Thank you, EFAP!
Just for clarification (for Rags) the actress that played Nancy was 20 in this movie
I'm from the UK and take after Nancy's mum but, isn't the legal age in US 21? Or was it just a different time Rags? :p
@@ShamanKyrick It differs by state, but even the most restrictive have the legal age of consent being 18.
Some states have it as low as 14, like we're in the medieval era or something.
Other states have more complicated laws like, age of consent is 14+, but only up to 3 years senior. So a 17 year old can fuck at 14 year old, but a 18 year old can't. This is typically done so that highschools aren't hotbeds of statutory rape.
@@ShamanKyrickLegal age for what? Legal ages for different things and also vary from state to state.
@@ShamanKyrickLegal age for sex is 16 with parental permission, 18 without. 21 for US and possibly UK for drinking, 18 for Australia. 18 for America and owning guns, possibly the same for both UK and Australia.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx In the UK you're considered an adult at 18 and the only things you can't do until you're 21 is adopt a child. The rest is all different vehicles you can drive now and apply for piloting license
Freddy really had some bad luck, if he waited a little bit and fiddled with kids nowadays he'd probably just get cancelled on Twitter and some RUclipsrs would make videos exposing him... Which isn't even that bad because there is barely any reason to be on Twitter and RUclips would probably take down those videos for harassment anyway.
He could've probably gotten a job in Hollywood 😅
😂😂
@@silverscorpio24He’d probably run an entire movie studio haha
It would be _his_ truth.
Freddy did nothing wrong! Leave *them* alone! There’s no shame in being a “Minor Attracted Person.” - some gender/sexuality studies expert, probably.
Freddy.....why do you have this much baby oil?
Gotta oil them babies before he kills them. Makes it easier for him to..... no, I'm not gonna finish that sentence.
This movie scared the shit out of me as a kid. The whole vibe and music is what sells it.
Outstanding music!
Yeah me too, I didn't sleep for days man.... I feel they are too young, for them it's goofy and not scary but they grew up with modern movies... How old is mauler?
@@C3dr4c I'm not sure but having a full panel of people watching instead of setting the mood probably made it less scary. But I wish there was more appreciation of things.
@@gram440a The music is great and the main theme was written by Heather Langenkamp's boyfriend at the time.
@@C3dr4c He just turned 31 iirc
1:21 should've had a cutaway to 'The Mummy Returns' with that guy that says everything is cursed. "This is cursed, that is cursed." Would've been funny
Love that scene 🤣🤣🤣
You objectively can’t say that something is quote un quote “dated” when it has endured, actually made people scared, has been engrained into pop culture, and has remained popular for 40 years.
That’s not dated, that’s timeless.
Most horror movies now a days can’t even last 40 days let alone maintain your attention for 40 minutes. But this movie has remained popular and beloved and has lasted for 4 decades!
That is a legitimate achievement that is well deserved and very few horror films can make that claim!
Well said!
Name a recent horror film or franchise which has become iconic. Ring? Saw? Anything else?
Certainly nothing in the last 10 years that I can think of.
@@samuel5591Friday the Thirteenth, Halloween, Childs Play. Chainsaw Texas Massacre might be one. And those are better done tbh, as much as I like NoES.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx That's why he said "recent". All of those are from before the 90s, even. In the past 10 years? Nothing. It's the same with all franchises though. They're all basically old geezers now, nothing new has endured.
@@Arphemius Fair enough.
@@samuel5591I think Smile has a chance at staying power.
"No you cant talk to Glen, Freddy. Hes sleeping now. Call tomorrow. (Hangs up phone) See? You just have to be firm with these demons."
34:05 They're not random kids, there the kids of the adults who killed him.
Yeah I was completely baffled why they didn’t realize that…it’s made pretty clear in the movie why he’s going after those kids.
@@ultroswuzherei guess that's the pitfall of having a bunch of people talk through an entire movie is that you miss really obvious things.
Rags point is that it feels random for him to single out the children of the adults who killed him.
Killing the kids, maybe letting the parents know it was him *and then* the parents? Cool, pretty visceral and awesome, but that isn't the case, he's just going after their children (and only one of the parents finds out) which is pretty lame - and why has he started doing this now? The movie never explains.
@@VinnieMF Its not random. He was a child killer in life and now he is punishing the parents by continuing his work in death where there is nothing they can do to protect them. Needing to know every single rule of how the supernatural dream demon operates is the type of tism that ruined the later films.
So is Fringy officially a bird now or what??????
A frird
NOUGH! 😉🤣🤣
Heather Langenkamp and Wes Craven created one of the most proactive, determined, creative final girls in horror cinema: Nancy Thompson!!
Trash
@@gingeranagram2467 excuse me?
Yes they did. Nancy is a legend
Personally prefer Sydney.
@@justsomelizardwithatophat.367 Sidney Prescott also deserves the Hall of Fame!
22:43
"God, I look 20 years old"
Ha! What are you? *Legal* ?
I believe that was a metajoke. The actress recently had her 20th birthday right before that scene was filmed.
"Freddy vs. Jason vs. Boogie"
We already had Boogie vs Wings what more do you want!? 😆
@@ShamanKyrickTIPPLES!!!
Looking at something that’s actually GOOD for a change. That remake had Freddy looking like he had Down’s syndrome
I do find it funny that they literally couldn't stop making jokes about the hat, but then when she pulls Freddy out of the dream they are surprised.
Seriously they blab through the whole movie and can't even understand the simple mechanics set up. "Why Freddy is after them" "why nancy can pull him from the dream realm"
"Movie has no stakes because things can happen anytime" No its just when they're asleep you dolts.
@@TheElbowKingit's not a review, EFAP movie episodes are just rifftrax style content. They watch and joke about things that are happening.
..which means they also end up missing a lot that’s happening while joking about what’s happening.
I don't think they're surprised. They're just baffled at how it would work. I remember when I saw it the second time as a teen, I kept wondering what the rules were. He couldn't do his dream stuff in the real world, yet somehow dragged the mother into the bed, yet also came back and then died again. The ending made things worse because it's like, are they in the real world, the dream world or a mix of both? Will Nancy wake up? Are her friends dead, or are they alive since it implies she's been dreaming the whole time? Somehow he can harm people and influence them (dragging the first girl onto the roof or burning Nancy, hanging the guy or dragging JD into the bed for a blood fountain) but at the same time he can't teleport, can't change his appearance, can't do a thousand different things to get Nancy yet can drag mother down into hell not hell. It's one of those films that, while they were great at the time, end up having more questions than answers and leaves people wondering as to what happened. And not in a good way either. It isn't like at the end of The Thing, where the last two survivors are just done, both the alien and the human, with us not knowing who is who and knowing they're most likely gonna die.
@@CommanderZx2 But Rifftrax watches and understands a movie (as best as one can) before recording the riffing of it. If I watched A New Hope, made jokes over the parts where they talk about the force, then claimed that the parts with the force that come later are unexplained and goobery, it’s kind of a waste of everyone’s time.
I really enjoyed the Simpsons bit. Filled me with joy.
Jason gets his power from how many victims he kills and how many times he comes back to life. Freddy gets his power from the pain and fear he causes in his victims.
Freddy Vs Jason establishes that Freddy can only come back to haunt people who remember him so the Elm Street parents/authorities try to keep future generations from knowing about him
Just imagine if Freddy went after the EFAP crew and they all just started making fun of him and laughing.
@@LobsterwithinternetLike in IT 2
@@Lobsterwithinternet That was actually a script treatment meant for NOES 6, I believe.
Freddy Kruger became a joke in Springwood to the point where the local teens would take sleeping pills just to screw with him. He's a sad and pathetic shadow of his former self. One night, though, he manages to kill one of the teens fucking with him accidentally. This leads to his power growing again and, little by little, he claws (heh) his way back to being the feared man of your dreams he was previously.
Where did you get that idea about Jason?
Listening to y'all shred one of my favorite movies 😭😭😭
I feel your pain more than Freddy getting set on fire twice my friend
@@ShamanKyrick I feel like I'm going to cry again when they get to Nightmare 3
At least they did a very poor job at it.
Did platoon even say anything during this? Wtf man did he fall asleep? If so... Why didn't you guys wake him up? HE COULD'VE BEEN KILLED!
When is EFAP going to watch the Wallace and Gromit films? Every frame is a work of art, and theres a new one coming out soon.
Yes, just yes imagine, rags reacting to feathers.
Nobody made a longman joke during the extendo arm scene?
Im not mad.. just disappointed.
Freddy IS a loser, but he is a loser with superpowers
I grew up with insomnia and sleep was always a struggle for me. The longest I've gone without sleeping is 5 days.
Damn, I’ve got no right to complain when it takes me three hours to fall asleep once I hit my bed, that must have been awful for you!
Uhhh. I hope you don't drive.
While I think Michael Myers and Jason Voorhees are neat slasher villains and are scarier by technicality, I will always prefer characters like Freddy Kreuger and Chucky because they bring a cheeky personality you'll never forget or tire of even when the films they're in suck.
You, maybe. Me? Not so much. It’s what you describe that drove me away from both franchises after each’s first film. Well, second in the case of Freddy.
@@SumDumGyI prefer the silent ones. They're far more creepier and scarier than a villain who clowns around. When Myers or Voorhees just move out of the darkness towards a victim, that's scary. It's out of focus, out in the side, but it's looming towards you, the camera and the focal point with an intention of murder. There's no reasoning, no rhyme. You can't bargain. It's why Terminator is a great film for horror. Alien as well. An enemy you can't kill, can't reason with, can't stall, always hunting you, creeping forwards.
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx I can agree with that wholeheartedly. It’s also probably part of the reason why I prefer the second Nightmare on Elm Street in a lot of ways. Freddy is much quieter and I’m pretty sure all his dialogue is serious when he has it.
The stand out moments in this series of movies has always been the special effects & the Freddy character himself
Mauler does a surprisingly good spooky voice. He could definitely be the next Vincent Price if Hollywood was interested in doing Vincent Price things anymore.
Wes Craven’s stories of where he got the idea for Freddie’s look and the idea of the movie are both amazing.
The videos covering 2 and 3 are going to be great
I can imagine 2 is mostly just shocked silence until 10 minutes after credits when Rags just says, "Wow, that was the gayest thing I've ever seen."
@@righteousindifference3179A rare real-life example of Simpsons-style supertext.
I hope they cover the one were freddy as a guy stuck in a video game dream. I know it's cheesy but the fkg one liners always gets me 🤣🤣
@@symbolmonkey23 I can vouch from their comments at the end and from the premiere live chat that everyone is hyped for them to watch Dream Warriors.
@@WickedRaccoon16_61 the "Well the map says we're fucked!" line always gets me
I don't think Freddy's gonna beat Jig "get the fuck" Saw
He can't fight the Hoff. He's gonna get his neck cut, or he's gonna get trapped.
There's actually deleted scenes that explain how all of the kids that are killed had a older sibling that was also killed by Freddy. And they initially made Freddy a child molester but they changed it because of some news story at the time where kids were being molested in some school systematically.
Deleted scenes? I haven't heard that before???
It later turned out that the kids lied. Or, rather, that the adults encouraged the kids to lie (especially the child psychologists). Lots of people's lives were ruined.
This was later used as a plot point in the remake.
I wanna see ya’ll read more awful comic books! I was rolling on the floor!!😂
Pumpkinhead is one of my personal favorites
Waiting to EFAP is the only joy in my life.
Hmmm... But what's the only thing that brings joy in life to Freddy?
@@Kainvverd based on what we know about how he spent his free time when he was still human I'd say working for Disney would be a great fit
@@Kainvverd Killing kids, I would assume.
@@ViolentMessiah666 True, he has the right skills for it and friendly face to seal the deal.
Me who's seen all the movies listening to the last twenty minutes screaming at my phone "they explain that in the Sequels!!"
They came after those teenagers in particular in the 1st movie because they were the kids of the parents that killed Freddie.
I guess what they were asking was how and why did Freddy decide to start killing them now? The movie gives no rhyme or reason, the killings just suddenly started happening.
Take Steven King's IT for a better example. Pennywise has been killing children consistently every few decades and then goes back into hibernation to start they cycle over, and the entire town is effected by IT's influence. All the adults are apathetic and psychologically manipulated into ignoring the terrible things happening to the town's children.
@@noraye2500 The story is clunky for sure. But there was a deleted scene that explains how all the kids had older siblings that were killed before them.
@@noraye2500 The story is clunky for sure. But there was a deleted scene that explains how all the kids had older siblings that were killed before them.
@@noraye2500Exactly. It's been a good few years, and now he's killing them? They clearly were young enough not to know of the murders, yet now Freddy just appears? It's why I don't like the whole "he needs to be remembered" thing people came up with for later films. Who remembered him now after all these years, and why?
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx I assume the parents, in regards to that specific rule. Hell, I was under the impression none of the teens were even alive when Freddy was killed. Or so young they had no concept of him, because Nacy didn't know his name.
Bedroom Coffee!! Why didn't I think of that!?! Brilliant!
Right up there with Homer's Easy Chair Toilet.
I’ve done it before and it’s real nice. Though it is a bit of a trade off, since a regular machine makes a bit too much coffee for one person. Best solutions for that are either a smaller machine or a keurig (though the latter isn’t quite as potent as a regular machine in my experience).
@@spacevagabond4017 Thanks for all the recommendations, but.... this was a joke.
@@spacevagabond4017You could have a mini fridge to put the excess coffee, and a microwave to heat them up later.
That’s gotta be right up there
With a “shower beer”.
When you hit “shots on the sh*tter”,
You’ve attained godhood.
Who edited this? It's so good
I think they howl at the moon
Fun fact: Jackie earl hale brought Johnny depp to the audition and lost the part he wanted to him. And led to a 30 year quest for revenge on the movie series that scorned him.
Nicholas Cage's agent was also who got him the audition.
1 minute in and I love this Jigsaw "to me" meme keeping up
"like Dark Souls II"
😂
What has EFAP done to me? I hate horror movies and yet I’m still watching this
Same
As an old, it is so weird to find that no one in this group have seen more than 2 of these. I would've guessed that spooky ol MoopLer had surely seen them all.
They were aired on TV all the time in the long long ago
The oldest person here is probably 35, so it makes sense.
Metal's invisible man plushie looked amazing!
Now I want to see EFAP react to nothing but classic Simpsons episodes.
I need Brok to be in one of these films. He'd figure out how to build a spear that goes with him into his dreams or something
Nancy Thompson is one of my favorite protagonists.
The very 1st time I’ve ever seen this movie was renting it on the 80’s released Media VHS tape from a local rental store that did 5/5/5 deals, meaning 5 movies for $5 for 5 nights. I have very fond memories watching this movie many, many times on a Friday and/or Saturday night since I had this movie on VHS during the late 90’s & early 2000’s.
Same lol. Mine was called "Video Magic" and was within walking distance.
@@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep we would rent videos every now & then and get food for dinner. This was also during the time when I was collecting the original McFarlane Movie Maniacs figures.
@@EpicJasonX9000 awesome lol. Yeah me and my cousin would always walk up there and rent B horror movies. Like "I spit on your grave" and even the "faces of death" series. Our parents allowed us to rent rated R movies and told the workers lol. Better times.
This movie is really playing it loose with Freddy's abilities. Sometimes he has to chase his victims in the dream (sometimes for shits and giggles, but against Nancy he struggles) and other times he just has you instantly. Like, Glen, as gory, horrifying and cool as that death was, Freddy just did an insta-kill. Like, shouldn't he technically be able to do that as soon as you nod off?
As far as the books on traps and stuff, that kind of thing was actually something you could find in a books store back then, it was a reference to the anarchist cookbook which had instructions on how to make improvised explosives and LSD in it. My highschool had a copy of it. This series kind of follows original the evil dead series where it was unintentionally goofy then steer into it in part 2 and 3.... and turns into just cringe money grabs afterwards.
I actually found a trap book like the one in the movie at my local army surplus store.
"Fringy the raven"
You can't fool me, that's a prinny
Dood!
How did all 8 of them miss the exposition about why Freddy is hunting those kids? It's literally the exact same motivation as Willy in the Treehouse of Horror.
I think selling their limited edition plush toys was vastly more important than being consistent with their arguments.
It was clear none of them were paying much attention while watching.
I think they did but kept referencing it like they didn't. They tend to do this from time to time. Happened, I believe, in the RE movie arc a couple times, and I believe in one of the war arcs as well.
@@EpicJasonX9000 certainly seems to be the case these days...
@@RhysCallinan-hf7qx there is no way they did, they end the video asking why.
Maybe next time try paying attention to the movie instead of clowning on it every minute
Dude…….are you aware of what this whole channel is about? It’s literally the point of this show is they clown on the movies they watch. Mystery Science Theater 3000 style.
@@canderoussnurd4265 do you? Because I seem to recall EFAP starting out with MauLer & Wolf debating some rando trying to defend TLJ and they consistently keep referring themselves as critics and not comedians. And ultimately it doesn’t matter because many other people have pointed out that 8 people talking & joking has caused them to miss certain plot details and they’ve made some pretty bad arguments as a result. Being entertaining is not an excuse for making bad arguments, otherwise, we would be excuse RedLetterMedia and their “starving kids in Africa” statement.
It’s also difficult to listen to their critiques when you have 8 people talking over each other constantly and spewing jokes every 5 seconds. It’s the easiest way to miss plot details and the chat here is calling then out for it. Which they should. We shouldn’t just keep giving EFAP infinite passes and blindly agreeing with them over every single thing that they say just because you find them entertaining and/or funny. We should hold them accountable for their hot takes and bad arguments just like everyone else.
@@EpicJasonX9000 Dude. It’s not binary. You can be a critic as well as a comedian. And you’re unable to understand them because of so many people talking then what can I say other than watch something else. They have tons of videos that have just the four main guys.
Look on the bright side. At least it’s not RLM where they’re just contrarian pseudo hipsters that base their enjoyment on seventy different layers of irony. (Not like back in the day when they were more grounded with their takes.
@@canderoussnurd4265 That's not the point of the channel. It's a critique channel.
This will be the first EFAP Halloween special i can watch all of because for once ive watched all of these movies, i cant wait
On the First day of Spooctober that EFAP gave "to me". A Nightmare on Elm street!
Now I want them to tackle the Re-Animator series.
That'd be fun
NOUGH!
That cheeky "christmas" in the ad read from MauLer... just begun, the holiday wars have.
Do you think when Nancy went to sleep hospital, the sleep doctors told her that she had polycythemia vera?
Love the Art on the hoodie guys but iant no way i am going outside with EFAP spelled on my chest :D
I frickin would! Just...strapped for cash rn
"I knew no good would come from city folk and their flying women!"
All their criticism makes me wanna see what they have to say about number 3 Dream Warriors
I think Dream Warriors is a good movie. Now that 4th one…
@@augusteclaiborne1778 I always forget about that one
@@serviusm9523 Yes to me, the first 3 are really good. By the 4th one, Freddy’s a full blown comedian by then.
@@augusteclaiborne1778 Wait wait wait... You start from 0, 1 and 3 right?
@@ShamanKyrick2 is definitely good from an entertainment level. It gets very unintentionally funny by the end. Hell, even Wes Craven (who was absent from the creation of all but 1, 3, and New Nightmare) said that Freddy "starts to look really silly." in it. And this was before the era where Freddy became a pop culture reference dispenser in later movies.
Honestly, given the dream killing and experiencing horrible events at a young age, this could be seen as a metaphor for trauma or something. This guy killed 20 kids the same age as you. Thats something that sticks with you
I had sleep paralysis once, it was none other than John Kramer himself standing on the edge of my bed, Tobin Bell was my sleep paralysis demon lol.
That’s pretty cool
22:05 Pretty sure “Stay Awake” in the 80s was just speed 🤣
Did anyone else see the The Movies That Made Us for this movie?
It is pretty cool.
Absolutely
“Freddy were fine with you killing people but the rape stuff is weird”
Says a guy who clearly hadn’t heard what Freddy did 😂
That's only in the remake
His origin is pretty fucked up too. Practically the couch meme but ten times the dudes.
@@olabandola100 No, it was the original intent. They only changed the line to “child killer” from what he really was to avoid accusation of taking advantage of some real stuff that happened at the time.
The Feng Shui in Nancy's room was so bad that she probably brought this all upon herself 🤔
Not an EFAP and RFT premiere at the same time! Which should I choose?
RFT?
@@HennaK17 Random Film Talk. He makes some of the best Long form videos. You would have heard him in the Rings of Power Break downs.
The Dad is like a boyfriend from a romance novel he won't believe anything you say until it's too late. On part 3 Freddy came back as skeleton and the Dad was still like wait a minute I think I know that skeleton. It's really you!
When I was younger, I tried to see how long I could stay awake, I made it just under 72 hours and started hallucinating that the pillows were moving like caterpillars, just kind of folding in on themselves and sliding.
Once I saw that, it was like, "Okay, that's enough, time for a lot of sleep."
0:14 cannot get away from this game.
Love that game
What's it called?
@@Maikeru_Dabittsuhere ya go fam:
The Coffin of Andy and Leyley
@@Maikeru_Dabittsu Coffin of Andy and Leyley. A VN point and click. Telling the story of a toxic relationship between a brother and sister. As they feed into each other
didn't Wes Craven get the name 'Fred Kruger' from a kid that used to bully him in school or something?
It was actually from a character in his movie, Last House on the Left.
It was both.
It doesn’t really matter where the name came from. It’s meaningless.
@@SumDumGy sure, but that doesn't mean it can't be interesting to know
@@HerohammerStudios Is it though? I don’t think it’s interesting where a character name comes from at all.
These movies scared the absolute crap out of me as an 80s kid that wasn't supposed to be watching them. Jason never did, Mike Myers never did, but Freddy? Lets just say in my entire life I've had exactly three nightmares with him in it, and I *still* (over 30+ years later) remember what happened in each of them.
Good stuff. 😄🤌
(honorable mention to the Hellraiser movies for the fear factor, those scared the bejeezus out of me too)
Freddy was killing the teens because Kirk didn't like the idea of Milhouse eating two spaghetti meals in one day
So I doubt I’m that much older than some of you and I know there’s a lot of movies you’ve seen that I haven’t but I’m always surprised when I find out that you haven’t seen some of these movies. Granted I had parents that recorded everything on hbo to tape. Keep up the good work
My advice is to look at the 70's horror films (I'm 34 btw) there's a lot more I like about the 70's horror films because they seem to focus around real people and what the worst of real humans can do to each other. "It could happen to you" Don't Go In The House is pretty cool, Halloween, Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Hills Have Eyes are all possible situations unlike modern "ahh it's a jumpscare! Oh yeah I paid £10 to watch this" kind of vibe. But yeah I thik the 70's horror movies while slow paced, have a very unique quality to them :)
53:30 Who would have thought that a horror movie isn't scary when eight people talk through it from beginning to end?
You have to be a kid to find this scary, regardless of the audience. Its best moments reach ominous but scary? Please.
I don’t like horror movies but I can’t get though them with these chaps. I love how Mauler calls Freddy a goober.😂
Martin and Willie don't conjugate the Latin verb "to die" properly because they forgot that it's a deponent verb. smh
1:11 I heard on some podcast that technically Freddy's a type Shadow people; there's a variant known for looking like they have hats(?). His story is loosely based on some Laotian counterrevolutionaries who emigrated to the states then started dying in their sleep, claiming a vengeful spirit was hunting them down for failing to stop the Communists.
23:27 The Wheel of Time books sorta have a version of Freddy that uses a gun - well, a bow and arrow. The books have a dream world where the rules are basically the same as Elm Street, and a character gets into dreamworld bow-sniping matches against a villain simply called Slayer.