Brit Reacts to Why invading Finland would be a BIG mistake
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Interesting fact Sweden, Denmark, Norway and Finlands military airplane bosses have signed a treaty in 2023 to make the airforce a "Nordic airforce" instead of just country based.
So technically any of the northern countries got over 250+ modern fighter planes in their airforce now :). With a nice mix of F16, F35 and JAS 39's.
And F18
Lets just hope Dk gets their "new" fighters soon
Edit: I see that technically we already did... but its only a few of so far (F-35)
"On 14 September 2023, the first four F-35A fighters arrived at Skrydstrup air base after a transfer flight from Lockheed Martin's facilities in the USA." "17 on order to go" Wikipedia
and most of our F-16 are ending up getting sold for cheap to Ukraine
Our planes can land on the roads, emergency runways have been built there, all over Finland
yeah, for some reason most of videos keep forgetting this.
it's the same dispersed strategy with sweden. our airforces has multiple places to land and get on a new sortie. we've trained that with sweden even before we came members of nato
@@SandlyCut I mean it isn't that revolutionary of a thing. Very many countries have built their big roads with this in mind.
@@cassu6 Very true, but it is a key strategy not discussed often, which in this kind of video is kiiinda important.
Swedish planes you mean ;)?
Hearing this I am so proud of my neighbours to the east for being so ready and willing to defend their country.
Your welcome🤝
im allmost 50 and i would protect my country. btw greetings from Finland
They forgot some of our eastern roads are carved into damn bedrock with impassable forests both sides, creating a bottleneck for artillery fire creating worse trap than hell on earth.
And 10m+ high rock left and right of the road where it did cut through a rocky hill. Explosives on both side, and that passage it filled with tons of rock boulders, 3 m high. Would require quite a few of Russian shovels to clear that up.
Those are Howitzers. Basically a Cannon/Mortar Hybrid, capable of shooting from extremely far away (Like a range of 30 kilometres) and with a massive firepower that will obliterate terrain and releases shrapnels with lethal radius of over 100 meters. Fun times trying walking over the border when 700 units of those will rain hell over you👍
Finland's defense strategy is kinda like guerilla warfare, except done by an actual trained army.
Let alone the strong defense capabilitys, the Finnish People are not alone!! It's not that far away from EU... We will be there then. Greetings from Germany...
yeah. EU, and the nordic countries. Sweden and Norway too, which would help greatly in keeping the airforces up and running.
FYI, Finland is in EU.
@solidsteel3634 We finns belong to Nato now with Sweden.
@@OccasusRaven I know, i am happy for this. 😁
Far away from EU? Finland has been a member for almost 30 years!
They didn't mention our biggest military asset against an invading force: zillion mosquitos
That + water and thick forests. It's extremely hard terrain, for offensive force. Even drones would have would by limited a lot.
I would like to add something I don't see mentioned often. We have a vast and recognised support network called Sotilaskoti. It's a volunteer organisation made up of women (mostly older, it isn't popular with the youth) assisting army personnel in training by making life more comfortable (food trucks, cafes and events) They are all fiercely loyal and willing to defend the country. Not all the women know how to fight but many of us are willing to do whatever we can to support. I remember grandma saying that Lotat, the more known volunteer organisation during the wars got taken down but Sotilaskoti remained. The name literally translates to "Soldierhome"
For the record info we have +54 000 indirect nuclear attack proof bunkers all over Finland. If ye want, here is a more precise documentary about this particular subject, where you can even see the road, bridge and infrastructure guerilla style mining techniques. Oh, and fun fact: The biggest anti nuclear bunker, Merihaka, also boubles as local kiddy play ground and a swimming pool / spa. Here is the link: Not what you think - Why Finland Has 54,000 Nuclear Bunkers ruclips.net/video/922Db-kztC0/видео.html
And to add to this: We do not have an " army " we have 'defence forces'. It is so common in speech that people don't really differentiate between them. We are not trained to attack as much, as to defend.
The first rule of invading Finland is that you don't invade Finland.
The second rule of invading Finland is that you don't invade Finland.
The third rule of invading Finland is that if you f around, you find out.
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@@DK_1983Valkoinen kuolema Simo Häyhä kuoli 1.4 2002 joten ei luultavasti kerkee tähän sotaan mut voi olla et Musta kuolema tulee broidi wallahi
How do you expect finland to stand a chance against russia, nato or not?
@@DK_1983died 20 years ago
@@banana12216 How much did the modern day H!tler pay you to say those things?
Putler attacked Ukraine because he didn't want NATO to expand. Well, with Finland now a NATO member he got over 1300 km more NATO border.
I honestly don't know what that lunatic thought would happen, that we'd start grovelling and buddying up with him and nicely ask to be left alone and continue being an obedient little ex wife? You could see the NATO play coming from miles and yet he decided it's a good idea to invade Ukraine and provoke the response with a full on surprised Pikachu face.
Yeah it was funny. How long border Russian has before Finland join Nato?? Second if Russian invasion Ukraine they has literally all Nato country they neighbors then it's not only 1370 kilometers what they have it's fuckin over 2000 kilometers. Norway, Sweden,Finland, Estonia...........
You must seen movie ;Talvisota ( Winter War ) its very realistic.
The air force is relatively small in numbers. But the doctrine again is made against a larger enemy. The planes would be dispersed in roadside bases and would engage enemy planes from range, and then running. Causing casualties over time while saving their own numbers. Now that we are party of Nato our doctrine might change also into achieving total air superiority.
Don't think we ever will really change the "Airfield strategy" as long as our planes can use roads.
Think about that, in reserve are all men under 50 years, and officers under 60, So how many men are still ready to fight for our country, maybe million more? We can still shoot, and hide, most of us anyway. I was there, doing my military service when 17 .Wanted more from it, more pioneer things, those special ones, mostly demolition skills, for bridges and so, still got only basics of explosives training. But for me, there is only one enemy , and only way its coming is from east, russia.
The amount of "unofficial" reserves (those outside of active reserve and/or with Peace-time Exemptions AND almost entirety of female population) and how it is organized is something I personally kinda feel awe about. Almost every non-reservist male has some sort of "planned role" in war-time based on their civilian career. Much of the female workforce are also "earmarked" for certain roles and duties.
The amount of "active auxillaries" that (adm. just theoretically) could be mobilized without even stretching "mandatory service ages" for actual fighting population is staggering. And most of these WOULD take pride in their participation.
If there would come war, I would go without hesitation. Everyone would understand it, even my father said who is 60y old that he would go immediatly. He doesnt remember lots of how things go but would take up arms if the situation would be so dire
Yea no question. It would be hard for my mental state obviously (war must be rough), but there is no hesitation in whether I’d go or not. My family and loved ones all live in finland. I would die for any of them.
In the famous game "World of Warcraft", thjis villain-hero Illidan always said, "You are not prepared!".
I'd say we Finland, we are prepared.
I know I would be willing to fight for my country
@@dennislindqvist1265 ruSSoNazis only fight to cause more massacres, ruSSoNazis NEVER defend
@@dennislindqvist1265 Nah I'm Finnish
Also, one thing to remember: Russia does not always act rationally. They CAN decide to do a suicide, being convinced for ex that NATO will not help, or that they can take over in 3 days... Helsinki alone is a huge fortress, it would take months to years to invade it. When you can move troops and equipment underground, in nuclear bomb proof tunnels and caves... Just look at Mariupol steel factory and how much they had trouble with just that. Now, make that 20 times bigger and extend the tunnels well outside the whole city. And all of it is purpose built, whereas in Mariupol it was only half designed for war time.
Yeah, they can take over in 3 days like they did in Ukraine... /s
You are such a positive guy! Keep thriving dude! 🫶🏼
Again, tuntematon sotilas isn't about winter war. It's about continuation war.
For many years, Sweden and Finland have had a military agreement in the event of war in either country. Sweden and Finland have also had joint military exercises, before both joined NATO. It is not true what is said that Sweden would only come after 12 hours to help Finland, unless Sweden had been in Finland after an hour or so with military personnel and then as soon as possible with warplanes.
Then as for Russia's constant threats against other countries, they do it because they are afraid and then Putin tries to scare and threaten, because they have no friends who can or want to help Russia.
Finnish bunkers can house 75% of the entire population, and we have them everywhere. As per the constitution every building above 1200m2 needs to have a purpose-built population shelter able to withstand explosives, radiation, constructional collapse, and hazardous material.
Hey, it is really nice to know that you "over there" feel more safe as we fins have been prepared for decades to deal with our "dear" neighbors.
it's not only reserves it's willingness to defend out country. which is one of the highest anywhere.
that "82% willing to defend", is actually answer to: "are you willing to defend the country even if the outcome is unclear?" So we're willing to fight even when the outcome is unclear
Thank you for this great video. I am a Finn who learned much about my country thanks to you.
Poland also very stronk. Peace and love from Finland
Russians are welcome to Finland, just bring your own shovel.
You forgot that Finland has SISU.
You don't freakin' underestimate a Finnish Sisu.
One thing i have seen people say about is that "why they don't make just new road and ignore existing ones".
The thing that is not mentioned often is how absolute fucking ass finnish forest is to traverse unless you can use roads, its not empty "farmland" that we have recently seen in Ukraine.
But rather its fairly dense forest with gift of natures tank traps from ice age in form of alot of rocks and boulders.
The things i detest most in my work is when i have to drive 30 ton excavator into forest is that maybe i can push down a small tree or two if they are in my way, but thats about it. After that i have to worry about excavator digging itself too deep into the soil so i have to lift myself up, then there is the rocky terrain which fucks up the tracks of excavator.
If anything is hostile to heavy machinery outside of vehicles used to cut said trees, its the forest.
You forgot the swamp (and lakes). Not exactly home terrain for excavators (or tanks) either.
Rocks + boulders: nature-provided Dragon's Teeth!
About the tunnel network.. a friend just told me about the recording of their latest album. It happened on old barracks.. except that there is suspicious amounts of army personnel still hanging around, with out of proportion presence of police forces... because the army tunnels are still there but no one knows what is in them, if anything. I won't say where it is, of course, not that it would be any news for the enemy but, better not say.
We used to have tons of such bases and tunnels /storages around sweden, but most had to close down due to urban explorers kept ruining them.
2:10 there are actually alot of more troops on finnish border on the russian side they are even setting up security balloons and are doing weekly scouting missions on the border with some planes. 10:15 We might have one off the best airforces in the world, our pilots are the best of the best, even better than some americans pilots. Also we have a ton of road runways to setup as aircarft bases. And there are allways a swarm of F18 in air when any russian aircraft even comes close to a border. And we have an active anti-air for missiles. Also we have 32 Bae Hawks that can be converted to be used in the battle if needed.
That artillery weapon you were wondering looks like 155K98. We used those when I was in the army. It's a beast.
Finland bought a Iron Dome from Israel and its operational at the end of this decade.
Not exactly. Finland bought David's Sling system, not iron dome.
Russia vs. Ukraine, both Slavic, full of corruption, bad management, and training. Still, Ukraine is holding on because of help like training, munitions from other countries, and great fighters full of persistence. Finland has well-trained soldiers, a well-equipped defense force, great mentality, designed for defense, great tactics against attacking forces, a great environment to operate in, and with NATO, even stronger and better intelligence. Finland could handle Russian attacks alone.
You really dont need strong airforce when you have strong antiair systems and lots of cover in forests. There is alot of convertable airfields.
My mother and my father were born in those "red" areas, that we had to decede. I was born 40km from my parents home village, in 1971.
You mean Daavidin's sling air defense system , we was bought it in Israel, but assling far as I understand it has not yet been fully delivered and test, those were motorized 155mm. howitzers if I understood correctly, correct me if I was wrong.
As a Finn, I thank you for a good video, but you have to remember that in Russia, war is thought of differently than in the West, and Putin's mental movements cannot be understood with the western logic.
It would be a big mistake. Greetings from Finland. - Jaeger Lance Corporal/TOW-gunner FDF.
I'm in the 3rd grade militia (last group of the reserves to be called in to service) but I would definately fight for my family and country if duty calls.
@dwaynesview 9:10 Those are Howitzers, @SaintTyrael already told what they are in the comment section.
Finland, Sweden and Norway learned theyre leasson from WW2, come at us Mr Putin, the north will stand tall =)
Sweden learn what? Too hide their heads in the sand and let nazis have free passage to the north ?
Finland can house almost their entire population in their underground bunkers. In 2022, there was enough space for 4,4 million out of a population of 5,6 million and they've kept building new bunkers since.
Finland in military circles, is called 'Switzerland of the North'.
Switzerland, non-NATO central European nation, is commonly recognized as being impossible to successfully invade. Hitler was persuaded to drop such initial plans by his generals, arguing that German losses would be horrendous.
abaut air force... its not weak. we have a round 3-4 laers air defence systems. allso thos 50+ fighter pilots are best what you can get in this planet.
Finland mentioned, subscriber hunt 😂enacted
I remember that survey. I don't think the operative word was " to defend". It was "to die". I could remembering wrong though, so feel free to double check.
Barring nuclear strikes I think the Finns could take Moscow…
Jyväskylä sayis hi! Love this stuff, hate the war.
He really did that
The war in Ukraine has actually proved that many of the traditional defense logics still are ok. This makes me feel safe, or at least less concerned. It's always been a question if mathematics: how much can the aggressor lose in resources in relation to the theroretical geographical gain? The worst risk, as i see it, would be fast attacks againt strategical objects. Power plants, harbours, theHelsinki region etc. Fortunately a lot of our soldiers have been trained extensively in defending urban and strategic targets.
Yes with or with out
I'm from finland 🇫🇮
It would be a nightmare to fly in Finlands airspace, there's huge armada of anti-aircraft missiles making it living hell to operate with jets...
Crazy thing is that defence force is mandatory here in Finland and you swear an oath while doing it. It is deep. Try us..
Here is another video about Finland and Russia stuff ruclips.net/video/sqQ9ZnJ-F0c/видео.html
My Father would be in the first line of defense as an medic or some shit.
Never alone again
Who doesen't have rocket launchers?
i am from finland btw
It would be stupid to challenge NATO forces face to face over something like Finland. However, NATO forces might have full plate somewhere and with someone else, and that would demand resources from Finland too. If that would be the case, not so much help would come if Russia attacks.
2-3 days is for the fast reaction forces, so.. few hundred to couple of thousands, at most. In that scenario NATO can not empty out Baltic bases, which it would have to do to get any significant numbers in. It'll take couple of weeks to months to get foreign troops in such numbers that it matters. That is ok, we have enough to hold for months. Airforce can react in very short notice, specially since the formation of the Nordic Joint Airforce. And UK and Finland has a defence pact, UK would have to join in ASAP, not just send their NATO "quota".
Hmm.. I think our reserve is more than 870,000. Its more like 1 million...
1:35 " is he crazy?" ... Well yes. and what comes to posturing: He wears high heel shoes so he can look taller than he is. I mean someone, take out Putin, please?
Edit: Padded shoes that look like suit shoes, but have like 5cm of filling. Just google Putin shoes
thing about Russia using nukes against Finland which would be their only somewhat effective means of attack.
would be like if some hillbilly took a defective shotgun and as it fired, 3/4 of the pellets hits on his own face instead.
sure that would be devastating hit to us, but as you said the nuclear fallout from any of the viable targets would be way too big on Russian's own population centers.
and then there would be the added situation that now they had opened the floodgates by attacking Nato member country with a nukes.
so the political fallout might be even worse than the actual fallout from the nuke.
I think that many Finns would not be in enough good shape to combat. Many used to be too much with their phones and not enough exercises. Plus many people havent used to live with small amount of food.
90% of males done the service..Other 10% civilian service. You called in 20-30...40-50..And all have to help the Cause..
I would say our air forse is superior.
and with help of nato, total air superiority
Yoooo im from finland moi = hi
Jeezzz You ask what these guns are.... IT IS MENTIONED ON SCREEN!!!!!! READ IT!!!!!! 700+ Howitzers........
Putin ain't doing notin'
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Before Finland join nato our biggest possible problem during possible war was supply. We depends lot of ships import stuff in Finland. Now that sea is secured because everyone around it are nato countries. War takes lot of material like we have seen in Ukraine and that material eventually win the wars. Ships are best and easiest way to bring that in. Everything else we can do it on our own.
Also Russians know tat we are not a threat. Im sure there would be lot of unhappy Russians if Putin decide to attack Finland. Russian people are mostly very likeable people, ofc there is some exceptions. However that fsb elite what hold power in Russia are thief gang, they are like mafia. Nobody like them, not even Russian average Joes. Russia is lot like nazi Germany was, there is not much what people can do against they goverment after situation is this bad. Fear and violence is powerful combination.
I would fight. I am finish guy
I would definitely defend my country. I'm so glad to have been born in Finland. Finns like to complain that Finland "sucks" etc., but they have not experienced life in another country and how "bad" it could actually be. We have things very good here.
Yes. I moved from Germany to Finland 1999, and not once in that 25 years have regretted my decision.
Terveisiä Tampereelta :)
UK is plane carrierr
Damn, the "You have rocket launchers??" in the thumbnail almost made me think that Finland is still in the stone age and the military has to be prepared to fight with sticks and stones.
It's for clickbait he always does it. But i guess i can't realy blame him. It's basically a requirement these days to survive youtubes algorithms. I realy dislike clickbaity titles / thumbnails but pretty much everyone does it nowadays. So it's gotten so normalised.
@@zXSleeZy Yeah.. pretty sad to be honest. RUclips these days is not even half as good of a platform that it used to be. So many new changes.
@@taahaseois.8898 Agreed, especially so the search. So many times it recommends other stuff than what i searched for and it won't find what i searched for 8/10 times.
@@zXSleeZy This exactly.. I wish I had access to my old google account. I have liked so many good old videos which I simply cannot find anymore due to the new algorithm based search engine of RUclips. It truly is a damn shame...
Russian generals watching the video: 👁️👄👁️
Basicly after second worldwar whole finnish army is built around defending country against russians. Never forget where invasions are coming through the history.
In the US the willingness to protect their homeland is less than 5%, which is just crazy, and this even in the case if the country itself was under attack. Such massive mistrust in their own government and divisions in their politics. I do hope USA stays in NATO and pray that Donald Trump does not get re-elected.
And most of us. Over 90% would defend this country and leave it only in a body bag. It doesn´t matter did you go to the army or not. Most of women haven´t coz it´s only mandatory to men(we are hopefully changing it soon that it´s mandatory to women too). I said to my family: Nope. I don´t go anywhere. I would get a gun and give everything i got.
Olen Suomalainen
The video is so wrong about our air force. First of all....we have 62 F/A -18 hornets. We multible bases for our planes. And there are huge amount of airdefence systems
Finland is basically built to fight russia. And now with nato support it would be impossible for russia to ever hope to conquer finland. As a staff sergeant in finnish army i would gladly fight and if necessary give my life to defend this country.
and its terrible idea because if russia invaded finland russia would have big area just full off rebellious people and the cost for invading finland would be big and you dont ge anything else than landmass from finland
Russia fought against the Germans at the same time and most of their troops was tied up there. When Russia started the big offense Finland broke very fast in the 40s and lost the second war aswell. We dont want war here, we dont want to have anything to do with that, we just wanna be left alone. I think Finland made a huge mistake joining NATO
Quite a lot of us can shoot. 2 kill. Period. And we can do it. We just can. Not proud of it.. But.. U r black.. We have black Finn's.. Like Somali's who are willing 2 give their lives 4 Finland. Why? Indeed. Go figure. I know. And I care... And I love. Look at our Everything of foreing.. Adapted 2 our "system" of brotherhood/sisterhood.
Bruh you realize that fin is full of ruzkies? That's the biggest danger
Im not living here for killing humans so not myn war.
I'm much more pessimistic than most concerning this content. Sure, we can field huge reserves and hold on, with NATO support even longer. But, if Russia decides to go full scale, it will be rough and the country decimated. Even still, whatever gets lost we as a nation are gonna just take it on the chin like we did with Karjala.
Having some stupid "shock face" as a thumbnail is just going to alienate Finns if you're trying to get them to watch this. Just FYI.
Yes. We even have bunkers for EVERY citizen to last straight full-on nuclear attacks.
We get to the bunkers in minutes.
Have to understand that finns get biggest wins against Ukraina people. Those "soldiers" came shore of black sea our north hunters.
Battle of rukajärven tie.
Of course... why are you acting surprised? It's cringe.
The willingness to fight for our country is decreasing at some level due to the politicians and government not placing Finlands well being as their number one priority.
When Russia invaded Ukraine, we ran out of ammunition in stores
Hundreds of thousands of hunters in Finland, who own 1.5 million of rifles, are highly skilled in wilderness survival, tracking, and living in the forests.
Who are we?
Ammunitionas are making more in our ammunition factories on day and night.
And one more thing, every country have army inside of their borders, if not own one, then its someone elses. Think about it?
"close to a million inhabitants received training"
You should really ease off these stupid 100% ai-generated videos that have no proof-reading or fact-checking.
At least 2,5 million have had training.
Just lay off the ai-shit PLEASE!!
Not children and not old people have to go on the front lines.