One amazing sounding banjo! Thank you for allowing me to test drive it. I greatly appreciate it! Thank you for all you've done. An absolute blessing. Thank you John.
That thing is sounding great John! Having heard it before in person and thinking it sounded great before the ring change, this is a nice comparison to hear the difference!
Ok, some two years after installation, I have to say that this tone ring is rather amazing. After watching John's vid here and then chatting with him, I went ahead in summer 2020 and got the Sloan tone ring on my '92 Gibson RB-3. Why? The Kulesh ring was pretty good but lacked the big sound I was wanting, and as a result I was looking to buying another banjo. So, the new ring saved me a minimum of $5000 on a new banjo that may or may not have been as good as the one I have with the Sloan. The bass is much richer and the 21st and up frets have a nice long sustain that were virtually dead with the Kulesh ring. Like John said, it ain't cheap but for me, it was way more than worth it! Happy camper here. A big thanks to John for presenting this!!
John thanks a lot pal! From yer vids i have learnt alot, and my banjo should thank you too now its all setup and what not! Im thinking of going for a new a new tone ring in my project and a new rim to replace the 7ply rim in there and i think my mind is made up on what tone ring i want!!!!
Hi john,that was awesome.were would I get one.do U think it would work in a 70,s Washburn B16.or need a better rim.ps I accidentally touched my subscription to you,and saw a great vid on Pat cloud blues.hope thats O K.Im in Australia so don't see to much cheers thanks
You can use this ring in anything an it will sound great, as long as you have a good rim. It's price is on par with all the other well know ring makers out there, so it's not a cheap upgrade. Those B17s are nice banjos but by the time you upgrade the rim and this ring, plus labor, you'll be at the cost of the banjo. Of course if you really love that banjo, you sure can use the ring, but a better rim would be in order. I hope all is well down under with this Covid pandemic!
Even with just the iPad microphone the banjo sounds amazing beautiful banjo just found out about you through another third party will be in contact with you about banjos purchasing repair have a wonderful day talented musician can't wait to hear you play with your group
@@JohnBoulding will be in the market for Wildwood frailing banjo, Author Smith or anything comparable. Nice Rb 250 or 800 at good price. Will be traveling for the next week but will be in contact. Would like to hear u play with the group. !!
John Beyl , the Sloan isn't a conversion ring so it's not a drop in fit without major modification. I would recommend a rim change out in those instances so you preserve the original rim.
John, I have a Deering Maple Blossom, circa 1980. My original instructor passed away, and I purchased it for his wife. Wanted to have something to remember him by.. Do you think it would work well with it?
I have yet to see any quality banjo that this rings didn't transform into something much better, as long as the rest of the banjos components are up to sniff, as they say, quality wise. Your maple blossom should have a good 3 play rim and deering flathead ring in it stock, unless it's been swapped out. This ring can be installed after the rim is modified for it.
@@JohnBoulding Oh boy, that sounds like a lot of work and a big project. I guess I'll just tear G it down and put it back together to see if it makes it ring a bit better. Thanks for the information John. Yours sounds really great by the way..
Have you found a certain tension that works best for these rings. Where are you running yours at John? I just put in a no hole in a 38' TB1 I'm trying out. Thanks.
Each banjo varies on what it "likes" in tension, but the "G-A" range generally works well for a Sloan ring. I have installed it in customers banjos that went some below and above this range that sounded great. Try G to A first
@@luvbgrass also try going lower than that by a half step, and above it by the same amount. Never hurts to try to and see how it reacts. Once the ring settles you will love it.very powerful and has that old dry prewar sound
Alan, as long as the rim is standard thickness and height, the rim can be turned to have this ring installed. That model Gt should have the full sized rim so yes the Sloan can work in there. The rings aren't cheap, costing 700 dollars but it's is the best out there in my experience.
@@michiganwoodsman8760 yes but the outrer rim ledge where the skirt sits will need to be removed a few thousandths. If you don't do this the top portion of the ring will not seat properly.
The ring in this video was 820, but I traded it in just a couple months ago for the newest 222. Every ring Jerry has made is great and get a bit better each pour. You can't go wrong with any of them. The 222 is in my old KK-10 now and it's awesome
@@JohnBoulding thanks for the info. The 222 is what I have also and it made my RB3 Wreath, a hoss… Thinking on ordering more and doing all of my banjos
@@thomasgriffin8755 yes my main occupation these days is repairman so it's my 'job'. Check-out my Google business page, NoteAble repair and you'll see my contact phone number and email. We can talk about it
7 minutes of salesmanship. Almost gave up before he started playing. Maybe 2 1/2 minutes of actual playing. The banjo does sound real good up the neck with his right hand close to the neck (away from the bridge). And capoed to B-flat. Only way to really know, is to hear and play it in person.
Allen Hendricks , 7 minutes of explanation about the ring. Do I want folks to buy it, sure, because I believe in the product. I want folks to make and informed decision,, and hear it. I could have played 3 minutes and then talked 7. Sorry you didn't like the video but this went a "hey watch me play" kind of thing. No recording captures sound the way hearing it person will. But not everyone ha access to banjos to play in person So recordings is a help in those situations. Whether you care for the video or not, this ring is great no I hope you get a chance to play a banjo equipped with it one day.
@@JohnBoulding hey john, thanks for your reply.something just popped up in Australia I want to check out.if doesn't happen I,LL get back to you for tonering.thanks mate.
Hey john me again,I would love your appinion before getting this.I have to tell them by tomorrow.its a Sony Osbourne by Frank neat 2005 gold plated, for $4,400 Australian.rare to find good American banjo's here.to buy from America is nearly double price with exstange rate.should be that Gibson sound I want.sead to be copy of Sony,s 1934 flathead Granada.what do reakin john,I respect your appinion.thanks mate..
One amazing sounding banjo! Thank you for allowing me to test drive it. I greatly appreciate it! Thank you for all you've done. An absolute blessing. Thank you John.
That thing is sounding great John! Having heard it before in person and thinking it sounded great before the ring change, this is a nice comparison to hear the difference!
great sound great picking john
Sound is great!! Great video!!
Loved this review has a nice sound.
Ok, some two years after installation, I have to say that this tone ring is rather amazing. After watching John's vid here and then chatting with him, I went ahead in summer 2020 and got the Sloan tone ring on my '92 Gibson RB-3. Why? The Kulesh ring was pretty good but lacked the big sound I was wanting, and as a result I was looking to buying another banjo. So, the new ring saved me a minimum of $5000 on a new banjo that may or may not have been as good as the one I have with the Sloan. The bass is much richer and the 21st and up frets have a nice long sustain that were virtually dead with the Kulesh ring. Like John said, it ain't cheap but for me, it was way more than worth it! Happy camper here. A big thanks to John for presenting this!!
Thanks posting your thoughts and experiences with the ring Rick. It really is an amazing ring in all aspects
Thanks John for your knowledge ... That is awesome Tone and Volume ...
You're welcome Charles. I'm glad to share anything I can
Awesome sound.
That sounds awesome.
John thanks a lot pal! From yer vids i have learnt alot, and my banjo should thank you too now its all setup and what not! Im thinking of going for a new a new tone ring in my project and a new rim to replace the 7ply rim in there and i think my mind is made up on what tone ring i want!!!!
You cannot go wrong with a Sloan!
A great sound.
I have spoken with Jerry about producing a conversion ring, I WISH HE WOULD! It would be a big seller!
It wöjld be the best conversions ring you could get!
Wow John, that sounds great. Thanks for posting. I love the "my playing's not that great today". I find the same - any day ending in a 'y'.
Hey John I like it
Luv it
Hi john,that was awesome.were would I get one.do U think it would work in a 70,s Washburn B16.or need a better rim.ps I accidentally touched my subscription to you,and saw a great vid on Pat cloud blues.hope thats O K.Im in Australia so don't see to much cheers thanks
You can use this ring in anything an it will sound great, as long as you have a good rim. It's price is on par with all the other well know ring makers out there, so it's not a cheap upgrade. Those B17s are nice banjos but by the time you upgrade the rim and this ring, plus labor, you'll be at the cost of the banjo. Of course if you really love that banjo, you sure can use the ring, but a better rim would be in order. I hope all is well down under with this Covid pandemic!
man u got a winner there
Got the Earl and Crowe tone happening!!
Yes it does!
Even with just the iPad microphone the banjo sounds amazing beautiful banjo just found out about you through another third party will be in contact with you about banjos purchasing repair have a wonderful day talented musician can't wait to hear you play with your group
Thanks Mike, look forward to talking to you soon
@@JohnBoulding will be in the market for Wildwood frailing banjo, Author Smith or anything comparable. Nice Rb 250 or 800 at good price. Will be traveling for the next week but will be in contact. Would like to hear u play with the group. !!
@@mikegrant2080 ok I will keep my eyes open for one of those
Hi John, I have a '28 style 3 archtop, would the rim need to be cut to use that ring?
John Beyl , the Sloan isn't a conversion ring so it's not a drop in fit without major modification. I would recommend a rim change out in those instances so you preserve the original rim.
@@JohnBoulding thank you John. I agree, I really have no desire to cut this rim. This banjo has a no hole archtop ring and sounds pretty good as is.
John, I have a Deering Maple Blossom, circa 1980. My original instructor passed away, and I purchased it for his wife. Wanted to have something to remember him by.. Do you think it would work well with it?
I have yet to see any quality banjo that this rings didn't transform into something much better, as long as the rest of the banjos components are up to sniff, as they say, quality wise. Your maple blossom should have a good 3 play rim and deering flathead ring in it stock, unless it's been swapped out. This ring can be installed after the rim is modified for it.
@@JohnBoulding Thanks for that information. How does the rim need to be modified to make it fit/work right?
@@warrengann1540 the derring to ering has different dimension than thr sloan. The rim will need lathe tur ing to reformat it for the sloan
@@JohnBoulding Oh boy, that sounds like a lot of work and a big project. I guess I'll just tear G it down and put it back together to see if it makes it ring a bit better. Thanks for the information John. Yours sounds really great by the way..
Have you found a certain tension that works best for these rings. Where are you running yours at John? I just put in a no hole in a 38' TB1 I'm trying out. Thanks.
Each banjo varies on what it "likes" in tension, but the "G-A" range generally works well for a Sloan ring. I have installed it in customers banjos that went some below and above this range that sounded great. Try G to A first
Thanks John. It about G sharp. Been messing with it today. It’s sounding pretty good.
@@luvbgrass also try going lower than that by a half step, and above it by the same amount. Never hurts to try to and see how it reacts. Once the ring settles you will love it.very powerful and has that old dry prewar sound
Nice sound!
Hi John,, I would love one of these tonering to fit onto my Goldtone ob150, any idea of price, I'm in the UK, but cannot find one
Alan, as long as the rim is standard thickness and height, the rim can be turned to have this ring installed. That model Gt should have the full sized rim so yes the Sloan can work in there. The rings aren't cheap, costing 700 dollars but it's is the best out there in my experience.
Hey John you make it back home safe how playing go
Can you put a long skirt tone ring on on that currently has a short skirt?
@@michiganwoodsman8760 yes but the outrer rim ledge where the skirt sits will need to be removed a few thousandths. If you don't do this the top portion of the ring will not seat properly.
Hey John, do you happen to know what batch this ring was poured from? I just bought a Sloan Ring and it was 222L…
The ring in this video was 820, but I traded it in just a couple months ago for the newest 222. Every ring Jerry has made is great and get a bit better each pour. You can't go wrong with any of them. The 222 is in my old KK-10 now and it's awesome
@@JohnBoulding thanks for the info. The 222 is what I have also and it made my RB3 Wreath, a hoss… Thinking on ordering more and doing all of my banjos
@@bornagainremodeling all your banjos will be happy!
what tubing do you have on that capo John?
Surgical
John will one of the rings fit my Gold Star 100?
Yep but the rim will need refitting for it
@@JohnBoulding Thanks John do you or do you have the time to do that kind of job for the public if and when I decide to have it done?
@@thomasgriffin8755 yes my main occupation these days is repairman so it's my 'job'. Check-out my Google business page, NoteAble repair and you'll see my contact phone number and email. We can talk about it
@@JohnBoulding Thanks John I'll be calling you on Friday 1-8-2021
How does one contact you to purchase one?
Emal me at jbbanjo@hotmail.com
Does he make 11" arch top tone rings? Also how would I order one?
No he only makes flathead rings. You can order a ring through me if you like. Availability can be spotty these days
How much? Where can we buy them?
They are available through me, jerry and another source. Shoot me a message if you are wanting one. They aren't cheap, but worth every cent
@@JohnBoulding where do I message you at?
@@carolinarider5237 you can send pms via youtube. Or email me jbbanjo@hotmail.com
That’s what everyone says about there rings 😂😂 Steve Ryan’s got the best imo but what does my 2 cents matter lol 😂
Well of course lol
@@JohnBoulding sounds good tho man! 🤟🏻
7 minutes of salesmanship. Almost gave up before he started playing. Maybe 2 1/2 minutes of actual playing. The banjo does sound real good up the neck with his right hand close to the neck (away from the bridge). And capoed to B-flat. Only way to really know, is to hear and play it in person.
Allen Hendricks , 7 minutes of explanation about the ring. Do I want folks to buy it, sure, because I believe in the product. I want folks to make and informed decision,, and hear it. I could have played 3 minutes and then talked 7. Sorry you didn't like the video but this went a "hey watch me play" kind of thing.
No recording captures sound the way hearing it person will. But not everyone ha access to banjos to play in person
So recordings is a help in those situations. Whether you care for the video or not, this ring is great no I hope you get a chance to play a banjo equipped with it one day.
@@JohnBoulding hey john, thanks for your reply.something just popped up in Australia I want to check out.if doesn't happen I,LL get back to you for tonering.thanks mate.
@@daveandrews6670 ok good hunting. Let me know
Hey john me again,I would love your appinion before getting this.I have to tell them by tomorrow.its a Sony Osbourne by Frank neat 2005 gold plated, for $4,400 Australian.rare to find good American banjo's here.to buy from America is nearly double price with exstange rate.should be that Gibson sound I want.sead to be copy of Sony,s 1934 flathead Granada.what do reakin john,I respect your appinion.thanks mate..
You should grab that banjo asap! Frank make a great banjo. Very high quality and they usually sound great too.