6 Symptoms of a Bad Rack and Pinion | Steering Rack Failure
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- In this video I discuss about the 6 common symptoms of a bad rack and pinion (steering rack). Power steering fluid leaks, torn dust boot, difficult to steer, car wanders on the road and noise are all signs it is time to change and replace the rack and pinion.
No bullsh*t, no stupid music, straight to the point tutorial. Just heard in simple words what was going on in my car. Thanks
Right? So tired of all these clowns with long intros and shit
It's been a year now and no one sees the problem no one knows what it is and it's a headache but watching this video is exactly what's happening to my car thanks for the video
Same here bro ..I took my truck 9 mechanics and everybody keep telling me to this part that part and I change all my suspension but my issue is here now I got it
I think most shops just bullshit customers. They don't want to do the work. They want 'gravy' jobs. Easy fast money making jobs. They are not honest so they throw on different parts, charge you then send you down the road in a dangerous piece of 💩
Rack and pinion failure can be fatal
A failed rack and pinion can be fatal if it completely fails !
Thanks for the concise explanation 👏🏽
Yeah. I think I just had one with a failure. Going down the road approaching highway speed and suddenly it was fish trailing like crazy. Kind of scared the hell out of me. But a good thing is that I managed to not overly panic when it happened and was able to get to the side of the road
I’m happy to hear you were ok !
Had a failed rack. . SUV. Spun 180*. And was destroyed .
Lucky I survived it .
People you need a competent mech for this job . As mechanic I used made fatal errors .
Iu r NM 7i0@@Ukraine2011
Thank God you are all right! 😮@@tmcunlimited
I wish I had discovered this genius' vids sooner.
EXCELLENT JOB! It was informative and direct, with no filler and a shallow learning curve.
This is the kinda information that can possibly save people soo much money
This was absolutely the best and most concise video I have watched on this so far! Thank you!
This helped immensely, my truck has a little over 180,000 miles on it and the rack/pinion has finally started making creaky noises and the same common issues you’ve stated.
My wandering 2005 Sequoia is getting a new steering rack in a couple of days. Excessive play and clunking in rack and pinion. You nailed it!
Did it have a problem like going to one side during acceleration?
It was not that bad but it liked to wander a little bit.
If that makes sense…..
@@SaabAholic mine moves but iys consistent and predictable. Im thinking (praying) tie rod. It moves predictably for what feels like the distance of some bushing somewhere. About to check inner tie rod gonna see if it holds itself up or not
ahh thank you for educating me about this! I drive a '99 Toyota Corolla and I am getting my rack and pinion fixed now! Luckily, I went in just for a safely inspection although my car passed, a mechanic saw this as a safety concern. So I brought it in today to get it fixed. Better safe than sorry!
Recently had my Honda Pilot aligned, then went on a trip and it started randomly pulling left and right. I have replaced lower control arms, tie rods before the alignment. Looks like I might have a bad rack and pinion. Thanks for the video.
You're welcome
You're welcome
Thank you! Good to know of the possible leak locations of a rack pinion. The *LEFT* side of the diagram is the *PASSENGER* side, btw.
I'm certain he knows since he pointed out the location of the steering wheel in the drawing.😂
I'm learning a lot about cars right now because my dad is getting old and he has drag cars and I'm pretty sure I need to replace this. The first 30 seconds summed it up for me. And then also you mentioned it wanting to go left and right and it does that. Had a small amount of pink fluid below the rack and pinion. So I'm starting to think this is really the issue. Cause all the tie rods and bearings feel and look good.
I have a 2009 impala ls , this is what my car is does but it’s an On & off thing . Thanks for this video 💯
Thank you for the description and possible issues and recomendations.
Damn! Someone that can draw a diagram! Helps so much! Appreciate that great information! Been through half of what you're saying and am fixing to put a new power steering pump on! 🤦 More money,more money! ,🤣🤣🤣
Thank you so much for this video! You said it all I need to know !
I have a 2009 Honda CRV with about 152k. New tires, new struts but noise when turning particularly to the right. Had the tie rods and CV joints checked but 2 mechanics told me no leakage and no play. One of the mechanics told me the car is safe drive it anyway lol. The other one told me he suspects the rack and pinion. I personally smell something too and you mentioned something about burning. If I drive in a straight line on the highway all is fine. This happens mostly at low speeds while turning. Very noticeable in parking lots. Seems to be a difficult problem to diagnose. Bringing the car in this week again to get work done.
When turning does the cat loose power? And when driving straight is fine
@@RLAE420 is there a direct co relation to turning and the car loosing power or stalling?
Losing power not stalling
Find a better mechanic. We want you to live past 90. 😅
@@PlatinumIrishrose I had the rack and pinion done. It was good for a while then I heard noise again. Mechanic told me it was the strut. I just had the struts done so I warrantied the Monroes I bought from Walmart. Was good for a little bit and guess what noise came back on the other side. Could still be the upper strut mount cause I get a pop and creak noise turning hard while parking in a lot. You won't hear this during most normal driving. But wtf already. Now I'm debating to fix it again or just sell the car cause I got 170k now 10 months later and I'm trying to convince my wife to have a 3rd kid anyway so took her shopping for 3 row cars on our spring break last week (we are teachers) lol. She loves the car though and drives it 20k a year to work.
Best video on this issue out there .
Ive been trying to pinpoint a vibration in my steering wheel and shaking when traveling at high speeds and have to slow down. A shop told me it was my wheel balance so i got new tires w/ alignment and balance but still have it. Then i thought possible driveshaft or even cv axle. But this makes sense since i do see some grease stains around the boots of the steering gear and i do have 160,000 miles now.
Bingo! I have the same issue and have yet to find a shop willing to do the work in my area. High population means they can pick and choose customers and send me down the road. In a dangerous piece of 💩
Warped rotors can cause vibration in the steering wheel, brake pedal, whole car to shake. Not saying it isn't a bad rack.
Thank you you just saved me a whole lot because I recently am going through the same thing and it does sound like exactly what you said and described and it is leaking and my boot is cracked and there’s fluid coming out of it not a lot but enough and it does have play in the steering wheel thank you so much I’m glad I ran across this video
yes sir, he is right. My Charger 2012 steer's like a truck, so its in for a rack job !!!!
Simple and to the point. Just what I needed. Thank you!!!
wow man you just solved my 1999 zr2 4x4 pickup issue it zig zag going down the road. and you are the only one that said left to righ right to left and my eyes lifted back up. ive been typing zr2 zig zagz going dwn highway . and it also messes with 4x4 chain inside the front transfer case when turning.
Changed my 2 weeks ago, leaking (pissing) power steering at the boot!
Amazingly helpful and educational! Thanks a ton Top 5 :)
Grinding or clunking when attempting to steer can also be caused by numerous other issues. One item often overlooked (because the area is hidden inside a boot or bellows) are the inner tie rod joints. Additionally, when these joints loose their grease, you won’t be able to see it because the lost grease gathers on the inside of the boot or bellows. If you are having the rack and pinion changed out, for the nominal additional cost, you may as well have new inner tie rods installed.
I thought my CV joint was going bad. Getting a tick tick tick while driving. It doesn’t get worse while turning. Brought it to Hibdons tires. They say it’s the Rack and pinion and that I’ve got a lot of play in the steering wheel. While driving, I don’t feel like I’m all over the road though. It’s not pulling or anything. Going to take it to the dealership for a professional diagnostic and go from there. Also, after watching this video (thank you), later today, I’m going to go check my power steering fluid level. I have zero leaks on the ground…
What was the problem in the end?
What was the issue?
Hi, I have a Honda Civic 2009. It has ELECTRIC motor in rack and pinion. How do you diagnose that the problem is caused by the faulty motor. Just looking? Just driving? Do you have any instruments/tools that will make that diagnose???
03 dodge durango2wd .. never been wrecked not rusted out .. changed hub bearings brake caliper isnt aticking .. had it aligned .. myself a 35year mechanic and tge alignment shop are both baffled as to why it pulls to the right so hard .. could it be the rack&pinion ? It has 150,000 miles on it
great video thanks. is it possible that the rack and pinion is bad, even if is not leaking fluid? my car has had the rack and pinion replaced before, i bought it used and I saw it on the carfax. There is some steering play and I suspect that the replacement part must be failing.
I used old engine oil mixed with brake fluid 50 50 ratio and it didn't work as steering fluid. So I cut the hoses and drive with out power steering. It's really hard to steer now. I hammered the bolts back in and now something else broke.
I've got some wrenches.
You did what you supposed to do good job 👍
Please dont work on cars…
Be careful hammering The steel ones just bend a bit. No biggie. I just fill it with extra oil. Valve covers I'm talking bout. That way, the engine runs better. Pot metal is used on carbs. They crack. Be careful hammering around them. Thanks Drew. You know.
....also sugar mixed with a tiny bit of water will substitute for gasoline in a pinch. 😉
VERY useful information 👍🏾
Had all these problems for the last month expect any leaks guessing I just shot out those gears Out After replacing the pump knew something else was starting to go bad
Replaced the power steering pump, and found no leaks still hard to steer. Hopefully changing the rack and pinion does the trick
Did that fix it ?
Might be a pressure line
@@rickyricardo8099what’s that
Thanks for this information, very helpful without all of the other stuff 🙌🏽🙏🏽💜
Thanks you 🎉
Great video Sir
Very very helpful
Started seeing the leak and smelling it. Have to replace the power steering pump and rack and pinion...Smdh, and don't forget the grinding sound that comes with it.
How likely is that that the faulty rack causes a complete loss in power steering? My wheel turns just fine.. but power steering is absolutely gone
Don’t forget now that they are electronic on most cars the no start via a bad tack and pinion. I just went through it via my 2018 chevy Impala that was in an accident. The replacement that was out in was bad and all of a sudden my car wouldn’t start. It said stability/power steering service. I guess as a safety features doesn’t let you drive the car.
Thanks for your Pionion
My 2013 Durango is wandering, especially when there's bumps in the road. Has to be rack and pinion. Have replaced everything else including the struts. 120k.
Awesome explanation!
I'm going to have the rack and pinion replaced, so I also may as well include the sway bar's and tie rod end's ?
It's a 2006 Ford 500 with 165,000 miles.
Thank you, John
I would those parts are pretty cheap to add on and get it done while it’s all torn down anyway.
makes sense for alignment service. One time instead of waiting for other suspension parts to fail.
I replaced the upper and lower control arms (with ball joints), hub and bearings, sway bar links, rack and pinion (new by Maval) with new tie rod ends, and I still can't figure out why my steering wheel, after turning to either extreme, all the way clockwise or all the way counter clockwise, the steering wheel does not return to center (12:00 o'clock).
I noticed this most of the time when pulling out of parking lots (very sharp clockwise or counter clockwise turns all the way). Once you get on to the road, after a sharp right or left, the steering wheel loses its center position and remains off center (off center to the left 11:00 o'clock or 1:00 o'clock). Vehicle continues to drive straight but the steering wheel will rest off center until I turn the steering wheel again to the other extreme.
So again, when turning the the steering wheel to either extreme, clockwise or counter clockwise, the steering wheel comes back and will rest either at 11:00 o'clock or 1:00 o'clock. If turning the steering wheel all the way counter clockwise, the steering wheel comes back while driving and will rest at 1:00pm. If turning the steering wheel all the way clockwise while driving, the steering wheel will then come back and rest at 11:00 o'clock.
I already replaced the rack and pinion twice and I keep getting the same thing. I cant figure out why this is happening. Could it be that rack and pinions by Maval are inferior?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
The installation of your rack and pinion could be the trouble but you also had a remanufactured part installed. Hope you did not have to pay for both repairs to the steering, this is an expensive repair job.
Great video. I believe my rack is bad because it is very hot, and when i removed the boots and shook the rack rod it had slight movement with a clicking noise. Also the car is very hard to turn. The last symptom I believe is also related but I am wondering how. My brakes seem to be moving and it is causing uneven wear.. either the rotor is moving or the pads are jumping because i've changed multiple times now and they the pads keep developing a lip as if they are hiting the rotor at an angle they shouldn't. Also squealing noises accompany this. Will a worn rack cause the braking components to move around?
Thanks, I needed more opinions, im about to get parts to repair my 14 Ford Focus, I was unsure if I needed the whole rack or just the power steering pump.. for the small premium I will do the extra parts, 350 000 km's and hopefully counting
Hello
What fixed it?
Great video
Thanks for the video!!
Thanks I just got under there and it's the rack leaking from the top. 2yr old truck with a Lil over 40 thousand miles smh....
Would you recommend changing rack & pinion before power steering pump? I don’t have any leaks but it’s difficult to make left turns. Thanks in advance
following for an answer 😅
What about for an electronic rack and pinion assembly?
Seems similar to the pump going bad. How can I tell which one is bad?
Thank for explaining
I just took my 2010 Subaru Forester into dealership and they told me my power steering rack had to be replaced because it was rusty and leaking. They said it would cost $1,400. Is that too high a price? Should I go elsewhere to have it looked at. that seems really high to me. Thanks!!!!!!
Very helpful information
Vsc trac off light returned after zero point calibration. Rack replaced. Steering feels strong.
I think I just had the rack and pinion go today. Was driving at highway speed when the car suddenly began fish trailing. Almost felt like at one point it was going to tork and twist to the point of flipping
I don’t have a vibration or a leak, went to get an oil change was about to leave and when they had pulled the car they said the steering wheel felt it was pulling… earlier in the spring they had replaced inner tie rod and boot or belo. So to check they pulled off the boot/below and said I need a new rack in pinion. I’m so confused and annoyed they pulled it off after I had paid them to put on the boot/belo on in the spring. My question is was it necessary to undo the work to check, they said there was a little movement and dangerous.
Thanks for the Info. I barely put 26,000 miles on a new rack & pinion and a local mechanic shop said I need a new one because I have a “power steering leak” I have a 2012 Chevy impala with 171k miles. Do I really need a new one? Even with if I only put 26k miles on the rack & pinion?
Did you fix it buddy
What you have found is a pos mechanic.
Do these symptoms apply to electric power steering racks? I have a 2013 Subaru Impreza and the right side control needs to be done but they said it’s not in terrible shape. But when I break my car aggressively cuts to the right. And if I move the steering wheel back forth while parked it feels like the whole moves funny. The power steering has shut off twice but once you restart the car it’s back on and the code is gone. Any ideas?
Thank you for the knowledge my man
great content! very helpful
My truck is having problems shifting. That is a Torque Converter? Now the steering is very unstable? So CT/& Rack & pinion?
Mine has no leak. But even after replacing all tie rods and getting an alignment done (vehicle driving straight) my steering wheel still constantly fixates crooked and wont stay straight. Truck drives fine otherwise. Steering wheel just goes crooked and there is excessive play. Any suggestions?
Bad CV axles.
I have a creaking sound in the r&p (not the power steering pump) no leaks, no slop, no other issues besides noise...?? Puzzled. I'mma replace it but I wanna tear into the old one and get an answer. Maybe if we're lucky, I'll remember to come back and update this. Might be a month or two before I get arroud to it.
every get it? mine has the same creaking sound
@@josephsprinkle8783 well my rack and pinion showed up... finding time to swap it out is another issue though.
Thanks good information
Yes thanks
What if you have EPS? My vehicle squeaks when turning to the right.
My 05 Lexus RX330 steering wheel vibrates and is harder to turn when first starting out but then goes away after warming up. Suggestions please?
I just changed my rack and pinion new fluid too full flush few new hoses I got an alignment drove home then to the store and as I was pulling I hear a loud like clunking/ metal on metal I quickly stop to inspect the under side. Everything looks fine no leaks or anything. I drive back to my house and the noise increases and becomes more frequent. It’s to the point now 12 hours after an alignment and about 1 hour of driving and it’s basically just metal on metal clunking noise and it feels like it’s vibrating. I remember while flushing the fluid I went to turn the whee and it would basically jerk while turning and clunk I thought it was just the fluid making it’s way inside and brushed it off. Might try a flush again even though my fluid is perfectly clear. Worst comes to worst do you recommend I get a new rack and pinion
Check the control arms. Bolt may be loose.
What if you had more control of your steering before you change out your pump and reservoir? Now my steering is more impossible to steer than before. Before the replacement, I" had possible steering by pressing on the accelerator my steering became more easier, but made a whaning sound, plus a kind of electric burning smell. Was that the rack and pinion? Please help me, I'm a little confused.
We have a 2007 Buick Lucerne that clicks when we turn the wheel? No leaks, but you can feel the click in the rack and pinion box? Bad rack and pinion?
Most likely bad axle
I have a Lexus RX300 and can move the passenger side front tire from side to side a good 1/2” when it’s off the ground. The slack is not in the outer tie rod and there is movement in the rack boot so the slack is inside there. Is that serviceable or just replace the entire unit? The drivers side has about 1/4” of slack. I don’t feel the play in the steering wheel and the tires are not wearing oddly, just noticed this slack while inspecting other things underneath the car.
Thanks!
Great information.
Thank you!
I'm experiencing a rubbing sound when I turn the steering wheel. Steering wheel has a little bit of play but nothing crazy. Also, I've had the power steering filled but its not going down the line which means there is no leak but doesn't seem to be absorbed. Possible line clogged...? Any advice? I assume I do need to replace the rack and pinion but could the no fluid moving cause the steering wheel to make the rubbing sound? I have a 2016 Ford C Max Hybrid SEL. Thanks for any advice!
Is there a screen in the power steering reservoir? Does it need cleaned?
Hello, I have leak at the boot and I replace the rack and pinion by a used one but it leak too a the same place. Bad chance with the used part or it can be the check valve or pump problem ?
I have a 2019 gmc denali and the car has the pull to any side depends on to which side is the road leaning, i have check every part of the truck and everything is good, do you think rack and pinion is bad?
question: does a burning steering rack smell like clutch?
Yes similar smell
So I really don’t have any of these symptoms at all. I can feel about an 8th to a quarter inch in and out at nine and three and I can kind of see it going in and out at the boot. But the inner tie rod when I grab it and push and tug and twist on it it’s totally solid, I hit bump steering wheel wheel jerks I hydroplane on puddles my tires aren’t great but they’re not that bad yet
2011 Pilot,,,,,steering jerks to one side while accelerating then jerks back when i let off the gas,,,,,,,changed both lower control arms sway bar bushings and links front end has been aligned tie rods and tie rod ends replaced also. Could it bee the rack and pinion?
If it vibrates n while driving its swerving can it be fixed or u have to replace a new one,i need your quick response
Hey I have a 2011 g37x and I got it and the old owner told me that I had to change the rack and pinion but the car drives like normal I don’t feel any weird movement and i can keep the car in a straight and it doesn’t have no play but the only thing that I see if a very little leak of power steering fluid but it’s not a lot it’s a couple drops but only happens when I drive the car
haha funny how i have the same issue with a g37 except mine pulls to the left now, it wasnt as bad as it is now but i guess the more yu drive it the worse it gets, getting a new rack this month coz its getting scary to drive
Thanks you.
How do u tell for sure its the rack and pinion and not the pump
What if the tech guy punctures the boot. Do they replace it
Thanks man I still need a tutorial but yea my issue completely
My wheel don't wanna turn at all I add power steering fluid to it and it pours out within minutes idk if it's the rack and pinion or the pump idk price wise wither 97 dodge dakota
If it’s leaking will we see any leaks on the ground? And as for the sound, does it stop and come back? We hear noise but only when the weather seem to be colder. Please reply back….
Yes there will be power steering fluid on the ground and there will be noise.
@@Top5AutoRepairs so we took our car in to a shop due to a noise issue that comes and go. The shop said it’s the rack and pinion leaking fluid but we aren’t seeing it becuz it’s leaking onto something. It just didn’t make sense because we have no issues with the steering wheel at all. Just this noise that comes on for like 2/3 days and then gone for 3/4 months. What do you think?
That’s what they told us at least cuz we said that we don’t see any leaks on the ground at all. Not even a drop or two. But you are saying there will be fluid on the ground? .
See my car sounds like a haunted house lots of creaking when I turn my wheel. But it's not a power steering problem if that makes sense
@@tiffanychant4746mine is doing the same but the noise comes and goes, did you ever figure it out?
So have a question a friend just changed their power steering pump. And now the car is making a weird sound soon as you start it gets worse if you drive the car she said that intermittently the steering will get hard. Will a bad rack make noise just car running not driving stationary. She did say she had lost a little fluid but not much. Thanks for any help asap
Thank you so much
Thank you my asain friend in whom is not sneaky linegy
I don't have any visible leaks however I am getting a very bad case of wandering, my steering wheel gets hard to turn sometimes and I can sometimes hear a clicking noise. Idk if it's the column or the rack itself
Can a rack and pinion cause vibrations or shaking In the floor?
Maybe bad inner and out tie rod
assume that I got the noise coming from the rack and pinion and i add power steering fluid, would I be able to drive it to the mechanic.
my 2010 suburban has leak on the right side, but when driving it sways to the left. i was wondering if this is the issue of the rack and pinion bushing (driver side) or rack and pinion bushing gear on the passenger side. when it is in a complete stop, i can see play on both bushings.
the car has ran 50k miles. rarely using it.
My 2002 Tundra with 262k miles had poor steering control. Then after a bump it started clunking. I found out one of the rack and pinion bushings was worn out. I'll be replacing all the rack and pinion bushings this weekend.
have this same thing on my g37, leaking from the right and pulls to the left, yesterday almost tried to kill me, i think it gets worse the more i drive it, so decided to just get a new rack for it
Very Well Put 👍
I understand know thank you master mechanic
Hello i get vibration when i brake at highway speed. Is this also rack and pinion and the brakes ? Thank youm
These problem sounds just like the tie rods. Guess gotta just pray it’s my tie rods and not my rack and pinion lol
My car was making a loud noise when I would rev and steering wheel got hard I changed the power steering pump but still the same I’m going to changed the racknp hopefully that fixes it , it doesn’t make the loud noise anymore but I can here a sound but not that any tips?