Whats Inside a Power Steering Rack?

Поделиться
HTML-код
  • Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
  • If you’re curious about what’s inside a Honda power steering rack, watch this video. In it, I completely disassemble the power steering rack I took out of my 2012 Honda Odyssey. The reason I replaced the rack was because of a small vibration in the steering wheel when going over bumps. The van was in a collision before I purchased it and I believe the rack was damaged during that incident. Be sure to watch the entire video to see what caused the vibration.
    See below for the video about replacing the power steering rack in my 2012 Odyssey.
    I hope you find the info helpful and entertaining!
    #ETCGVideo
    My Patreon Account: / ericthecarguy
    The best place for answers to your automotive questions: www.ericthecarg...
    Check out the ETCG Blog for the latest info: www.ericthecar...
    Check out my ETCG1 channel: www.youtube.co...
    Thanks for watching!
    Parts
    My New Power Steering Rack: www.hondaparts...
    Tools
    Line Wrenches: store.snapon.c...
    Ingersoll Rand 3/8”: www.ingersollr...
    Mac Snap Ring Pliers: www.mactools.c...
    Related Videos
    2012 Honda Odyssey Power Steering Rack Replacement: • 2012 Honda Odyssey Pow...
    2006 Honda Odyssey Power Steering Rack Replacement: • 2006 Honda Odyssey Pow...
    How To Change Power Steering Fluid: • How To Change Power St...
    Solving Power Steering Problems: • Solving Power Steering...
    Honda J Series Power Steering Pump Replacement: • Honda J Series Power S...
    Honda Power Steering Pump Rebuild: • Honda Power Steering P...
    Whats Inside a Saginaw Power Steering Pump: • What’s Inside a Sagina...
    1999 Honda Civic Power Steering Rack Replacement (Part 1): • 1999 Civic Power Steer...
    1999 Honda Civic Power Steering Rack Replacement (Part 2): • 1999 Civic Power Steer...
    2002 Chevy Cavalier Power Steering Rack Replacement (Part 1): • 2002 Cavalier Power St...
    2002 Chevy Cavalier Power Steering Rack Replacement (Part 2): • 2002 Cavalier Power St...
    Toyota 4 Runner Power Steering Rack Replacement: • Toyota 4 Runner Power ...
    Toyota 4 Runner Power Steering Problem Returns: • Toyota 4 Runner Steeri...
    2003 Nissan Power Steering Rack and High PSI Hose Replacement: • 2003 Nissan Sentra Pow...
    Replacing Subframe and Power Steering Rack 1999 Pontiac Grand Am: • Replacing a Subframe a...
    Belt and Pulley Basics: • Belt and Pulley Basics...
    Ford Fox Body Steering Upgrade: • Ford Fox Body Steering...
    **Answers to your automotive questions found here: www.ericthecarg...
    Social Network Links
    Facebook: www.facebook.c...
    Twitter: / ericthecarguy
    Instagram: / ericthecarguy
    Wanna see more stuff like this from ETCG? Information on Premium Membership: www.ericthecar...
    Stay Dirty
    ETCG
    Due to factors beyond the control of EricTheCarGuy, it cannot guarantee against unauthorized modifications of this information, or improper use of this information. EricTheCarGuy assumes no liability for property damage or injury incurred as a result of any of the information contained in this video. EricTheCarGuy recommends safe practices when working with power tools, automotive lifts, lifting tools, jack stands, electrical equipment, blunt instruments, chemicals, lubricants, or any other tools or equipment seen or implied in this video. Due to factors beyond the control of EricTheCarGuy, no information contained in this video shall create any express or implied warranty or guarantee of any particular result. Any injury, damage or loss that may result from improper use of these tools, equipment, or the information contained in this video is the sole responsibility of the user and not EricTheCarGuy®.

Комментарии • 569

  • @kevinisawake
    @kevinisawake 4 года назад +41

    REBUILD IT PLEASE - a Power Steering Rack rebuild video by Eric will be super cool. All agreed - give thumps up here so Eric can make the video.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +7

      Well, you saw how it came apart. You could easily use this info to rebuild one of your own. Thanks for the comment.

    • @bilbobaggins4710
      @bilbobaggins4710 4 года назад +4

      @@ericthecarguy screw that...too many small parts ..I'll buy a cheap rebuilt on eBay 😀

    • @jeffkelley3419
      @jeffkelley3419 4 года назад +1

      @@bilbobaggins4710 Maybe, you'd get lucky and buy a new one - like Eric. Don't neglect your local auto parts stores. They sell rebuilt parts.

    • @bilbobaggins4710
      @bilbobaggins4710 4 года назад

      @@jeffkelley3419 too expensive....I mean my rack works fine just needs seals as is the case 99% of the time....not worth spending $350 plus my old unit... they're making a killing ...eBay $140

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +1

      @Mike Pevency It's not always 'just seals' like in the case of this PS rack. If you end up needing hard parts you just lost your shirt on the rebuild and you would have been better off replacing with new or reman.

  • @hatfez
    @hatfez 4 года назад +34

    I worked as a Rep for a rebuilding company that was one of the first rebuilders of racks. At a introduction to racks, TRW explained that the spool valve was made with Teflon seals that over time would cut into the aluminum housing, making the rack "non-rebuildable."
    Hogwash. Anything built can be rebuilt! They bored the housing, installed a steel sleeve, making the rebuilt unit better than the OEM unit!

  • @FirstNameLastName-ev3jk
    @FirstNameLastName-ev3jk 4 года назад +44

    This is exactly the sort of thing I do: broken toasters, microwaves, derailleurs, fans, X-box, VCRs...
    Because it’s interesting to see how everyday things that we take for granted work.

  • @pirana6
    @pirana6 4 года назад +76

    I don't know that I ever wondered what the inside of a steering rack looked like, but I found this very interesting! Thank you!

    • @kieranclyde4309
      @kieranclyde4309 3 года назад +2

      You prolly dont care but does someone know a way to log back into an instagram account??
      I stupidly lost my password. I appreciate any tips you can offer me

    • @braylondominick5304
      @braylondominick5304 3 года назад +1

      @Kieran Clyde instablaster :)

    • @kieranclyde4309
      @kieranclyde4309 3 года назад

      @Braylon Dominick I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site on google and I'm trying it out atm.
      Takes quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

    • @kieranclyde4309
      @kieranclyde4309 3 года назад

      @Braylon Dominick it worked and I now got access to my account again. Im so happy:D
      Thanks so much you really help me out!

    • @braylondominick5304
      @braylondominick5304 3 года назад +1

      @Kieran Clyde You are welcome =)

  • @jonroberts4422
    @jonroberts4422 4 года назад +30

    @EricTheCarGuy We rebuilt 100's of thousands of steering racks over the last 33 years. Interesting to watch you go through the teardown. Sad you didn't give the viewers the terminology of the components. As a builder and a troubleshooter I have been through so many calls and emails with people that didn't know what I was describing and they had been "doing this for blah blah many years" lol. BTW this rack is pretty simple parts wise than so many others. Also there is a reason why we leave the passenger side tie rod on when you take the pinion nut off! Love the mess!. Honda doesn't want the core back because it's a cheap POS of a rack often made by KOYO or SHOWA. They are so poorly and cheaply made like the rest of the vehicle that they are disposable. The rack piston is super soft steel so it bends easily and the chrome is thin.Yeah the lower pinion bearing is often a failure in the Odyssey just as in GM's especially Magnasteer. Too small of a bearing for too much load. And for those who buy the kits online and say "hey I'm going to rebuild my own!" Have fun! Unless you have all the specialty tools to properly remove, install, and seat the telfons, rubber seals, o-rings, packings, bearings etc for the more difficult racks I wish you well. One nick, burr, or ill-fitting packing with cause a fail at pressure. The one final tool is our trusty Branick RPA-700 tester. This is what simulates in-vehicle operation. If it's going to fail it will on the test machine. If you don't have this and you're rebuilding your own it sucks to put the unit back in and have it fail making a mess all over everything. Using the vehicle as your final test is a bad way to learn a lesson. For those who whine about rebuilt parts I can tell plenty of stories about the seasoned wrenchers that ruined many a rack and expect warranty replacement. Good video Eric.

    • @ssudarso
      @ssudarso 2 года назад +1

      Hi Jon Roberts, are you saying that any steering racks can be rebuilt/repaired and there is nothing called beyond repair ? Thanks in advance for your (expert) response !

    • @jonroberts4422
      @jonroberts4422 2 года назад +5

      ​@@ssudarso I never said ANY. I did mention some in that post aren't worth it. We've certainly seen beyond repair. No doubt. Collision victim where the entire housing is shattered or the rack shaft is too bent to straighten. Mounts broken. The famous LH platform Chrysler had in the 90's that was positioned in the vehicle so that the rack housing would fill with water and the polished rack shaft would be corroded and pitted beyond repair. First gen Tacoma 4WD would get water in the passenger end and ruin the entire shaft. Couldn't get them re-chromed when that damaged. Oh and Late 70's Volvos leaked like hell no matter what you did. Bad design. Same with early Audi 100, any old school Bentley or Rolls, Jags, leaked like hell. Most older UK racks made by "Pow A Rak" were horrible leakers even with genuine seals. We only rebuilt with OEM seals. Some parts are just made bad and rebuilding is either more challenging or pointless. Thanks for the reply!

    • @ssudarso
      @ssudarso 2 года назад

      @@jonroberts4422 many thanks for your elaborative responses and explanation. Understand that if major deformation happend (too bent, damage due to accident etc.) it is better to replace the whole unit but in general if it is about "noises" - it should be rebuilt-able.

    • @arm2644
      @arm2644 2 года назад +2

      The main front suspension noise on the passenger side that gets us all crazy and after changing all suspension components is always still there, is from this bushing 11:48 it only needs a little wear for the pinion to move up and down inside the rack and create that rattle noise that nobody can find!

    • @dignitas1980
      @dignitas1980 Год назад

      By any chance, do you know companies who sell this repair kits? I`m asking just to make a test with my old steering rack. Last time, makes some ugly noises when turning left/right just standing there..

  • @bltoth1955
    @bltoth1955 Год назад +7

    Hello Eric, I’ve seen a lot of guys changing out steering racks because of an oil leak from a bad seal. Is there any reason why those seals can’t be replaced?

  • @arm2644
    @arm2644 2 года назад +21

    Fun fact: The main front suspension noise on the passenger side that gets us all crazy and after changing all suspension components is always still there, is from this bushing 11:48 it only needs a little wear for the pinion to move up and down inside the rack so slightly and create that rattle noise that nobody can find! When the rubber dust boots get torn the dust destroys that small bearing causing the valve assembly pinion to move causing the leaks, that is why from factory they install this small bearing without the rubber seals to guarantee premature failure 😀!

    • @West-Wind
      @West-Wind 11 месяцев назад +1

      I don't understand how that bushing on the end of the rack at 11:48 has an effect on the movement of the pinion up and down. If it were a bushing on the top or bottom of the pinion, that would make sense, but on the end of the rack...? Or did you mean to say that the bushing (what Eric called an end cap) allows the rack (shaft) to move up and down? And what bearing are you referring to? I didn't see a bearing on the end of the rack? Sorry, I'm just a little confused by your description. Thanks

    • @andybird8515
      @andybird8515 29 дней назад

      ​@@West-Windi had exactly the same question. I think his timestamp is off

  • @firingallcylinders2949
    @firingallcylinders2949 4 года назад +18

    My dad this morning was complaining about his car making a whining noise when turning. I explained to him its his power steering. He was like how does that work anyways? And this video came out today lol

    • @wernerdanler2742
      @wernerdanler2742 4 года назад +2

      Probably the pump. Either just low on fluid or getting worn out.

    • @theswissmechanic
      @theswissmechanic 3 года назад +3

      @@wernerdanler2742 months later but youre probably wrong. PS pumps have several O rings that can go bad, allowing oil to leak or air to pull in. Whines are usually from air being pulled into the fluid or in worst cases, the bearing going out. But both things can be replaced. The vanes going out would mean it won't pump anymore.

  • @akinaspeedstar22
    @akinaspeedstar22 4 года назад +17

    I’ve been watching your videos for years and I just wanna say thank you for taking the time to film and entertain us.

  • @TheWwong
    @TheWwong 4 года назад +12

    Your video has convinced me to change my power steering fluid regularly and if/when I need to replace the power steering rack to seriously consider buying a new vs. refurbished unit. Thanks for posting!

  • @rogerhinman5427
    @rogerhinman5427 4 года назад +42

    The engineering that goes into this to get the fluid where it needs to go.

    • @OilBarron84
      @OilBarron84 4 года назад +8

      The heights that Western man reached with his engineering and technology in the 20th century is staggering completely taken for granted.

    • @drunkdonutboy
      @drunkdonutboy 4 года назад +3

      I wanna know the wizardry behind the valve body in an automatic transmission...just breathtaking

    • @fastinradfordable
      @fastinradfordable 4 года назад +5

      OilBaron
      “Western man?”
      You know China has had natural gas piped into people’s homes for thousands of years?

    • @OilBarron84
      @OilBarron84 4 года назад +5

      @@fastinradfordable Yeah, Western Man. Europe and European diaspora nations have led the world in innovation. From 1400 to 1950 about 97% of scientific innovations have come from Europeans. You could say that everyone else is culturally, technologically, and in nearly every other sphere appropriating European ways 😄

    • @C_HILL_OUT
      @C_HILL_OUT 4 года назад +4

      Then the bean counters got involved and said how can we make it as cheap as possible and last till just after the warranty expires.

  • @ardie72
    @ardie72 3 года назад +2

    to anyone interested- honda power steering fluid is 4 times thicker than normal PSfluid, it is also more gentle on seals- if you use alternative grades- they are thinner and may damage seals . using the honda fluid in normal power steering systems , makes the steering heavy as the orrifices are smaller, and increases pressure on the pump, if removed and flushed soon enough you may not have caused any damage to the pump. its like pumping oil thru a syringe vs water

  • @labradormcgraw
    @labradormcgraw 4 года назад +11

    Love videos like this - where we all learn new things together. The great picture quality means we see every nut and O ring. It's a real skill to make viewers feel so 'involved' in the project - bravo. But I have to say that the beard seems to be taking over. Be careful, as that's how Charles from HM started - and look what happened there! lol Long live Eric the Car Guy!

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +2

      Thank you again for your comments. They are always appreciated. As for the beard, my wife is in charge of that.

    • @jeffkelley3419
      @jeffkelley3419 4 года назад

      I agree. His beard looked much better two years ago.

    • @labradormcgraw
      @labradormcgraw 4 года назад +1

      @@ericthecarguy You are most welcome as always, Eric. Still the best on RUclips... even with the beard.

  • @cortezaz
    @cortezaz 2 года назад +5

    I think most likely was the gap between the pinion and the gear was too big due wear and tear. Kinda like diff gears. Most steering racks probably just need some adjustment from that nut that had the spring. Thank you for the video. Very enlightening. My boss use to say, “if you how it works you can fix it”👍

  • @medeiroscr
    @medeiroscr 4 года назад +7

    Very interesting reengineering video! People around here use that shaft to make homemade bench drill machines.

  • @d.ridley5218
    @d.ridley5218 6 месяцев назад +3

    Hey man, thanks for being on the internet for so long. Over the years, you've always been solid in your advice, you rock. Keep it up, brother!

  • @davidprice2861
    @davidprice2861 4 года назад +15

    That was excellent, yes with the force of the hydraulic pressure, the lateral thrust on that bearing would be considerable. Never thought there was so much to a steering rack, the valving is incredible..

  • @generalralph6291
    @generalralph6291 4 года назад +5

    Someday we'll have like VR gloves for RUclips and we will be able to feel what you feel. And nothing unchristian will be done with that technology.

  • @CrazyPetez
    @CrazyPetez 4 года назад +10

    Curiosity satisfied👍.

  • @NackDSP
    @NackDSP 2 года назад +3

    I recall that after replacing your first rack and pump it is a good idea to install an inline filter. That way those little metal chips get caught before they can do more damage. I got interested in using a filter when the local Ford dealer quoted me $5,300.00 for a new power steering pump for my 2000 Ranger EV.

  • @KingdomAuto
    @KingdomAuto Год назад +3

    This is a very interesting video, thanks for taking the time to do this and film it! It’s easy to see why so many vehicles are going over to electric power steering after watching this. I know a lot of people prefer the driving feel of hydraulic steering but for the sake of maintenance, electric seems to be the better option.
    Do you think you’d ever be able to take part an electric steering assembly? That would be really cool to see the comparison!
    Thanks again Eric

  • @robynegallacher9263
    @robynegallacher9263 4 года назад +5

    This guy has the most soothing voice, like Alex Trebek. I'm going to watch this again next time I'm feeling anxiety.

    • @normandeboer6118
      @normandeboer6118 3 года назад

      Most Soothing Voice ever, anywhere on the internet is Bob Ross, Joy of painting... If you can't sleep, try and stay awake listening to him... :)

  • @ppeterson9359
    @ppeterson9359 4 года назад +11

    Take care of your hands there. You only get the two you've got.
    Use that dead blow hammer if you need to hit your wrench.

  • @bobbyrios2k223
    @bobbyrios2k223 4 года назад +5

    This video is interesting. Never seen one apart. Very cool!

  • @ijj984
    @ijj984 4 года назад +10

    Thank you for my therapy session Eric!

  • @sc0tte1-416
    @sc0tte1-416 4 года назад +24

    That is some pretty precise machining that goes into that

    • @SoulTouchMusic93
      @SoulTouchMusic93 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, electric rack and pinion seems like a much better ideea. I got it i my 02 shit box civic. I don't see why the hate.

    • @sc0tte1-416
      @sc0tte1-416 4 года назад

      @@SoulTouchMusic93 I hear ya on that but is it more reliable? And if it F's up does it cost like a grand to fix?

    • @SoulTouchMusic93
      @SoulTouchMusic93 4 года назад +1

      @@sc0tte1-416 it shouldn't really. I meant my Honda is made in 02 and it still goes. I believe when these racks first started they had the electric motor close to the steering wheel and the sensors as well. And they had shitty steering feel. Now it looks just like this one in the video, they have the engine and sensors right next to the rack and it's one sealed thing. They don't seem to go wrong, they feel good, they don't create drag on the engine and they only need 2 wires to give them power.

    • @bowez9
      @bowez9 4 года назад

      @@SoulTouchMusic93 let me know when 30yrs old with over 500k miles. All my vehicles still have their original items, newest is a 94. Plus I get full feeling is steering.

  • @Tigerfire75
    @Tigerfire75 4 года назад +2

    What is wrong with using chrome? #chromeneedslovetoo also it is fun to see chrome tools shatter

    • @Wulthrin
      @Wulthrin 4 года назад

      idk about you but i would prefer to not have metal bits shot at my body. in this case it seems pretty low risk though

    • @Tigerfire75
      @Tigerfire75 4 года назад

      @@Wulthrin Pain heals, chicks dig scars, glory lasts forever.

  • @stumpy7777
    @stumpy7777 4 года назад +5

    Owww seeing you slam your hand on the wrenches. I would use a plastic dead blow hammer. You have hands like hammers.👍

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +3

      Hard to hold the rack and swing a hammer at the same time. I've been hitting wrenches like that for years and it really hasn't been an issue. The trick is knowing when you can hit a wrench like that.

    • @maingun07
      @maingun07 4 года назад +2

      @@ericthecarguy Ditto. Also, knowing what part of the hand to hit with and how hard. Just takes some experience and a bruised palm or two.

    • @VEN1
      @VEN1 4 года назад

      @@maingun07 Wait till your 70. Bad wrists. Pain inhand places you didn't know you had.

  • @MikeyOwnz
    @MikeyOwnz 4 года назад +8

    now you know the issue i would rebuild it and keep as spare so maybe when the current one you just put in dose it you got one ready to put in

    • @sc0tte1-416
      @sc0tte1-416 4 года назад +2

      I'd do the same, if not just to keep that beautiful machining work on display

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +4

      I think it would be a very long time before I would need a new PS rack for this van. Especially since I maintain it the way I do. In my view, that would be a waste of time and money. Thanks for the suggestion.

    • @mrphiscal
      @mrphiscal 4 года назад

      @@ericthecarguy eric you doing it wrong!!!!!! rebuilt the rack for us youtube folk ( RUclips folk lets start a collection to get the content )

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +6

      @mrphiscal I have other projects that are more pressing. Also, anyone that watches the video will see how it comes apart and hopefully be able to put one together. Also, I don't know if the parts are available. Lastly, I'd be happy to send it to someone if they wanted it.

    • @Dizzykitty817
      @Dizzykitty817 4 года назад

      @@ericthecarguy I hope you are able to send it to someone who can rebuild and make a video. Honestly, I tried to rebuild my Nissan rack a while back and ended up destroying it. I feel there is quite a lack of information on rebuilding racks on the interwebs. Someone really needs to be the hero Gotham needs.

  • @prospector7777
    @prospector7777 4 года назад +4

    Hi Eric, love your videos. Precise and straight to the facts. Too much in a rack that is high precision. I'll pass and if it whines enough or fights me, the new rack should be nice and cheap and not worry about how it works. Good coverage !

  • @aserta
    @aserta 4 года назад +2

    I find it surprising how few people know about wire locks. You'll see some people bash and groan on cylinders for hours trying to unscrew them and heck knows what other things. It must be not as common as i thought.

    • @jeffkelley3419
      @jeffkelley3419 4 года назад

      Everything has a purpose, even if it's just for looks.

  • @JSchrumm
    @JSchrumm 4 года назад +3

    Gets hammer out at 4:16 damn Eric your oily hands are going to protest like antifa when you get older.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад

      I'm 50 and so far, so good. BTW, ever try to hold a slippery PS rack, a wrench, and then a hammer? Experience taught me when I can hit a wrench with my hand like that. You can't always do it BTW.

    • @JSchrumm
      @JSchrumm 4 года назад

      Not a power steering rack.@@ericthecarguy

  • @jamesterrill1938
    @jamesterrill1938 4 года назад +2

    Great video for us that would never get to see what makes R.& Pinion work. Wonder what "Electric" R.&Pinion is about

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +1

      Very similar minus the hydraulics. Most EPS put the assist on the steering shaft instead of inside the rack.

  • @iamezza
    @iamezza 4 года назад +4

    That was amazing when you used the impact and stuff went everywhere! haha

  • @cojones8518
    @cojones8518 4 года назад +1

    Pro-tip if you have a R&P from something rare/unobtainium, most hydraulic shops that do hydraulic cylinder rebuild work can get the rod and gland seals to rebuild a rack.
    Also: ruclips.net/user/Abom79search?query=hydraulic

  • @emartinez6584
    @emartinez6584 3 месяца назад +1

    Ok from what I am getting from this in , cause the top of my pinion is leaking , that instead of removing the rack , I can just remove the two bolts and both pressure lines and remove the steering shaft , I can remove the pinion housing ? to just replace that seal ?

  • @evilmrx5837
    @evilmrx5837 4 года назад +3

    Great video Eric! Thoughts about replacing the bearings and seals and rebuilding it for your parts inventory?

  • @stever7638
    @stever7638 4 года назад +2

    Very cool, thanks for sharing, never seen inside one. It appears that the fluid keeps even pressure on the stationary piston until you turn the wheel like a valve body inside a trans. Curious to know how when turning the wheel, how the fluid moves from the shaft to the piston since it needs to bleed off one side as it turns. Those 3 seals obviously direct the fluid, but the back and forth of the fluid direction is great engineering. Again, very cool.

  • @theblsdpr3863
    @theblsdpr3863 4 года назад +1

    On a semi related question, how does a vehicle's steering get out of alignment if an impact occurs? I realize there are other suspension parts at play, are only those typically affected or is the steering rack affected in any way?

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/QBUxJSeYiow/видео.html

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/dSWdf_7HcqI/видео.html

  • @amboroverdecillo8101
    @amboroverdecillo8101 4 года назад +3

    Fascinating video. So much effort, engineering and high quality parts go into actually making something like that, only to have it end up as junk. It's a shame. But in many parts of the world this would be repaired and live again.

    • @Wulthrin
      @Wulthrin 4 года назад

      yep. slap two bearings in and a set of o-rings and i bet he could resell it

  • @nathantaylor9998
    @nathantaylor9998 4 года назад +3

    Definitely do more videos like this. I don't own a Honda vehicle but I learned a lot!

  • @jejursch
    @jejursch Год назад +2

    Thanks for sharing,I just replaced the rack in my 2020 jeep compass for the same kind of noise you described. Had no idea of why but that bearing certainly makes the most sense. Dang shame to have to replace a $600 part for such a small bearing. At least this just gave me some peace of mind to know how it could have been making so much noise. This was great!!

  • @weatherwoodproperties7199
    @weatherwoodproperties7199 2 года назад +1

    What would happen if one were to put the hard lines off the spool valve on backward? Or got them crossed accidentally. Thank you

  • @MaverickandStuff
    @MaverickandStuff 4 года назад +2

    The seals could leaking or the valves were sticking/bypassing. It could also be the bearings like you pointed out. Most likely a combination.

  • @ikocheratcr
    @ikocheratcr 4 года назад +3

    Great video, I love the disassembly type videos to see what makes it tic.

  • @MrRewdtv
    @MrRewdtv 4 года назад +5

    I say replace the bearings, and put it back in and see if you fixed it, just for video content sake. Id like to see if you can fix it!!!

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +1

      This is why that'll never happen. ruclips.net/video/haCGztYY0rk/видео.html

  • @AniketBhade
    @AniketBhade 4 года назад +4

    That Sound Though @ 7:33 🤣🤣

  • @TuanNguyen-fs6cq
    @TuanNguyen-fs6cq 4 года назад +2

    Great video. You reminded me of the actor George Clooney. Voice sound exactly like him.

  • @miker.5495
    @miker.5495 4 года назад +1

    Great video as usual. Now please rebuild it and throw it back in the vehicle! I'm not kidding.... we all need you to do this so that we can stop spending hundreds on full racks and just buy the seal kit for $20-$25. Thanks!

  • @alexandercahoulan6583
    @alexandercahoulan6583 4 года назад +3

    Dude crazy...I was just thinking "i should look into how to rebuild my rack and pinion. I Have to find good video." BOOM!!! Like Fate. Your the fing man Eric

    • @leocarvajal6967
      @leocarvajal6967 4 года назад

      You "only" need 3 things, the chilton, the repair kit and big magnifier glasses. If the internal metal parts are scrachted, you lose time & money.

    • @alexandercahoulan6583
      @alexandercahoulan6583 4 года назад

      @@leocarvajal6967 thanks for that info. Ill look into that. Nice to hear from someone whose done it.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 4 года назад +1

    I'm not seeing much wrong at all with that hmm wonder what the problem was 🤔 maybe it was the bearing like you think @EricTheCarGuy

  • @myshots101
    @myshots101 4 года назад +1

    That was pretty nice. I guess that's all they change when they "rebuild" them as long as they're not bent. New bearings and seals. Who knew.

  • @michaelmiller4716
    @michaelmiller4716 4 года назад +1

    Curiosity satisfied! We used to rebuild P/S racks on '80's Nissan Maximas under warranty at the dealership. Oily mess and possible a no fix for the problem. Remove it...again and wait for a OEM replacement. Oh, and the warranty paperwork, GRRR!
    BTW, are you shooting your own videos or is Brian still lurking behind the camera? If it is you that is doing it, you are approaching professional grade!

  • @XMALL
    @XMALL Год назад +1

    Magnificent! Your video actually sheds a light in mysterious thumps that i experienced with my actual Acura TLX and a previous Honda Accord. The major issue is caused by some kind of front collision with previous owners. Unfortunately not a lot of guys out here want to repair or have the knowledge to do so.
    Then, charge you for speculation over costumers ignorance of mechanical problems and wrong parts.
    Once more I am impressed with the machinery quality and craftsmanship of japanese automakers.
    Great job showing the guts of it!
    Keep up with the good job man!
    Thank you!

  • @daveokun8648
    @daveokun8648 4 года назад +1

    Eric, what should I do to give my foxbody Mustang steering more "feel"?
    I was thinking of adding a pressure regulator to the supply side of the pump . . .

  • @furionese
    @furionese 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for your deep analysis video as always.
    Can you guess as to why so many competitive drifting cars have power steering problems? Specially the one with crazy angle kits installed. Their power steering fluid not only overheat but sometimes explode out the pipes or turn into air/gas. I suppose the sheer speed the piston moves through inside that thing causes problems but anyone can speculate that. I just don't know why it does.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +2

      PS temperatures are no joke. ruclips.net/video/lnKi-H3yqf8/видео.html

  • @edwardklein9146
    @edwardklein9146 Год назад +1

    Eric your videos are very good from a visual point of view and I am grateful for the effort you put into them on RUclips. I would just suggest that when you take something apart, like the Honda power steering rack, you might at least show a manufacturer's diagram of the parts. You might even clean up and arrange your parts to correspond to the exploded view of the parts diagram. It would reduce the amount of guessing on your part and would be much more instructive. Thank you.

  • @timmymagic1000
    @timmymagic1000 4 года назад +2

    Brilliant video, great ! I think I’ll be changing the rack on my RX7!

  • @KenDunnUSNA87
    @KenDunnUSNA87 4 года назад +2

    Thanks Eric! That was fun AND educational.
    So... given the metal shards on the power piston, and the "wait a minute" catch on the lower shaft bearing, you gotta suspect the metal may've come from elsewhere, e.g. a pump that ate itself at some point? If so, maybe the whole rack failure is a symptom & the root cause was a failed pump. Hopefully no other metal specks floating in the system!

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +1

      Honestly IDK. That was the only place I found it. It could have also just been some coating material from the parts. Either way, I installed a new Honda rack in my van so I'm really not worried about it.

  • @wdhewson
    @wdhewson 4 года назад +1

    My 1977 Civic Hatchback had a steering rattle. I made the rack pinion load adjustment once at abut 20,000 miles and it was sweet until I threw the car away at 120,000 miles. No power steering so the driver had good rack feel!
    Nne of my subsequent Hondas or Toyota needed it.

  • @michaelblacktree
    @michaelblacktree 4 года назад +2

    Cool. I love taking stuff apart and seeing how it works.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 4 года назад +1

    Hints the name Rack and Pinon its a gears on rack on a pinon gear steering wheel attaches to the pinon shaft rack goes to tires

  • @UchihaDasuke
    @UchihaDasuke Год назад +1

    Thanks (again) Eric! You've really helped me work out what might be causing the fluid leak in my LR Discovery 3 rack.

  • @gadget73
    @gadget73 4 года назад +1

    the nut under the cap opposite the input shaft also sets bearing preload. Too loose and it rattles, too tight and it damages the bearings. I did a Ford Fox rack, there is a spec for rolling torque on the input shaft, basically the same idea as setting a crush collar on a diff. Tighten the nut until its at whatever in-lb of drag.

  • @fluxcapacitor1621
    @fluxcapacitor1621 Год назад +1

    When the car was in the accident, there was a force on the wheel that pushed the rack in. The pinion didn't turn. It was forced into the bearing that it crushed.

  • @jojib7621
    @jojib7621 2 года назад +1

    Wonder if in the accident maybe the rack wobbled a little inside the housing causing the fixed piston/seal to smash into the walls instead of the O ring causing just enough metal to scrape off and make tiny places where the fluid could leak by and it would bounce back and forth like a bad strut or something, plus mooshing the bearing making it that much worse.

  • @elderbob100
    @elderbob100 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for the look inside of a power steering rack. My car has a rack problem and this is very helpful in tracing the problem. Well done Sir!

  • @brauliorubio2465
    @brauliorubio2465 4 года назад +1

    about you working table, I have one there is 4 ft by 10 feet it used to belong to a guy that work on hydraulics very neat and organized table, it had an edge chanel heavy duty with downspouts for all the oil spells, that will lead to a container, I found this could be good for people that work on automobile parts with a lot oil in it

  • @skinlab4239
    @skinlab4239 4 года назад +1

    Rebuild it and give it away to a viewer in need of the same unit.

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +2

      I don't have any interest in rebuilding it, but I'd be happy to send the parts to someone if they wanted them.

  • @Perly53
    @Perly53 4 года назад +2

    Thanks Eric. That was very informative. Be safe!

  • @jerryjordan2887
    @jerryjordan2887 2 года назад +1

    I had to replace my tie rods, found the boot was ripped badly, then found the entire bottom of the rack covered in fluid. Looked at some "how to replace steering rack" videos, now I'm here learning a hell of a lot more about power steering components. Now, while I'm pissed about everything I've found wrong on my car, I'm glad I end up learning cool shit through it

  • @bunning63
    @bunning63 4 года назад +1

    The older Odyssey racks didn't carry the pinion through the bottom of the rack. Instead of the wire clip arrangement the end cap screwed in with a bushing. Unfortunately on pinion side, the rod passes through the housing resting directly on the housing. You will find an indication of a slight flat spot on the rod where the adjustable plunger rests, as the rack moves across the alloy housing, you get a rattle which often people assume is the inner tierod, but is the excess clearance between the housing and rod. It actually makes alot more noise than you would expect, you can adjust some of the movement out, but you don't want it going tight on the less worn area. Incidentally the half round cap that rests against the shaft, is a plastic material on the older ones.
    Overall there is little provision for lubrication between the rod and housing. Should a boot tear, muck getting in will end up on the outer housing and cause rapid wear between it and the rackrod, especially on the pinion end which sees the steering effort applied.
    By the way, your rack is the wrong way round...

  • @brycelund7155
    @brycelund7155 4 года назад +1

    I tried rebuilding one of these once. About 5 minutes after I got of the car (1999 Honda Civic) I destroyed it. Stripped a big nut out while removing it. Wish I had rebuilt this style. Looks much easier.

  • @SportsMusicCars
    @SportsMusicCars 5 месяцев назад

    07:52. That 15/16 nut was loose on my 2012 G37, and fluid was leaking - had been for a while with the buildup on the outside. I tightened it up, now the steering is tighter which is weird as that appears to NOT be the part you could adjust for the pre-load tension, but merely a cap as you pointed out. Same time, I checked the fluid and it was down about 1/4 qt. Added fluid and the steering did get easier, albeit still tighter than before all of this and it's always seemed quite loose for a 3 turn L2L rack.

  • @jasonputtock4428
    @jasonputtock4428 4 года назад +1

    hey man. Do you have an OLD boost converter laying around that you can strip and tested out.?

  • @edjackson4389
    @edjackson4389 4 года назад +1

    I have tightened that nut with the spring and piece that holds tension against the shaft about 1/4 turn on my rack and solved a noise issue on some cars. On others it didn't work at all. If you get it too tight your steering will be too stiff, so go slow and check steering effort often.

  • @peterbustin2683
    @peterbustin2683 4 года назад +3

    Cool ! Thanks from UK !

  • @vincemorgan6096
    @vincemorgan6096 4 года назад +2

    Well, that side of the shop won’t rust!

  • @danielmoss2394
    @danielmoss2394 4 года назад +4

    We both said “cool!” at 4:25. Cool!

    • @gantmj
      @gantmj 4 года назад

      10:57 I said "interesting" right before he did.

  • @h60memo
    @h60memo 4 года назад +1

    Eric the automotive boltr guy. Sadly this will be on the healing bench in heaven.
    I like these videos to see underneath the peatycoats.

  • @birigoboom
    @birigoboom 4 года назад +1

    Bearing is not 1009 but rather 6001 - a rather ubiquitous skateboard bearing

  • @PhillyDee215
    @PhillyDee215 4 года назад +1

    I've done a lot of rack n opinions but I've never seen inside one. Cool video😎

  • @bobby9823
    @bobby9823 4 года назад +1

    if you get a suction pump and suck out the old fluid every 4 years the rack will last a lot longer.

  • @robertasher3892
    @robertasher3892 4 года назад +1

    I tried watching this after lunch and fell asleep. Finished it after my siesta. My knowledge of a power steering rack and what it looks like inside is complete. Thanks for another ETCG1 video and would you consider rebuilding this in the near future?

    • @ericthecarguy
      @ericthecarguy  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! No, I have a brand new Honda unit installed in the Odyssey. I don't see any need to rebuild this one.

  • @CosmeDC
    @CosmeDC 4 года назад +6

    Thanks for sharing! If we were in the old days, that's what a mechanic would do and repair or at least send to somebody for repair. Not only throwing stuff in our cars
    Keep it up!

    • @daveverdonschot7956
      @daveverdonschot7956 4 года назад +1

      You have a point there... but you'd be without a car for a couple of days. That won't fly with most modern day customers.

  • @colingreenway9765
    @colingreenway9765 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful interesting thank you I have a zf rack and want to replace the seals this will help a lot kind regards

  • @rwbishop
    @rwbishop 4 года назад +1

    Interesting! Out of passing interest, if you ever come across an electric rack, could you take it apart as well?

  • @gaveintothedarkness
    @gaveintothedarkness 4 года назад +3

    7:24 "Release she shmoooo"

  • @theblitz1176
    @theblitz1176 27 дней назад

    i happen to rebuild a similar rack and pinion for a montero 2005 and after some research the teeth MUST be at specefic tolerance or it wont engage with the pinion seamlessly and that lead to metal to metal contact and causes metal shaving in the seals that you saw
    it is rebuildable if you buy the seal and bearing kit

  • @juancarreras1714
    @juancarreras1714 4 года назад +1

    Nice video Eric,learn some about Honda vehicle,so am a owner of element 👍🙏

  • @ericcindycrowder7482
    @ericcindycrowder7482 4 года назад

    I disagree with the statement about not “cranking down” the hydraulic fittings but just making them snug. If the o-ring equipped fittings were designed correctly, and Honda will normally design their cars correctly, they will be designed so when the fitting is tightened, there will be a metal stop inside the fitting. When the fitting is fully tightened to the correct torque setting, the metal stop will allow just the right amount of o-ring “squish” and the metal stop will prevent the o-ring from being squished or compressed too much. Making a hydraulic fitting just snug risks the fitting coming loose over time.

  • @theoracle6005
    @theoracle6005 Год назад

    Hi Eric
    I have a acura Legend Coupe with a very leaky power steering. Can you do a video on rebuilding a power steering rack for these Unicorns.
    We have only few left here in Australia and parts are rare to come by.

  • @maingun07
    @maingun07 4 года назад +1

    I _may_ have to do this on my 96 Tacoma. Bookmarked this for reference. Thanks, Eric.

  • @leocarvajal6967
    @leocarvajal6967 4 года назад +1

    3:00 that is a check valve to keep liquid free of air bubbles inside device.

  • @jackpatteeuw9244
    @jackpatteeuw9244 4 года назад +1

    The "magic" happens inside that valving as it balances the pressure on the piston in the center of the rack.

  • @SvcGlobal
    @SvcGlobal 4 года назад +1

    Outstanding valuable video, Eric, thank you.

  • @ua7pyro591
    @ua7pyro591 3 года назад

    My TL had the rack replaced. It had the same rattle in the wheel. Everything else was replaced. The rack slides wear out and knock around inside.

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 4 года назад +1

    Nice informatove breakdown demonstration video Eric

  • @auburndruid1778
    @auburndruid1778 Год назад

    Howdy Great video. So I have a 1998 Honda RA5 V6 Odyssey power steering rack with a serious leak coming from where the rubber boots are.
    I've tried Lucas stop leak 2 bottles worth and having no success. I'm thinking of using another stop leak AT-205 Re-Seal Oil power steering stop Leak. Rather than having to rebuild to replace the seals. Power steering Seal kits seem to be very expensive . So was wondering if u can do a video on ether Lucas or AT-205 Re-Seal Oil power steering stop Leak and see what's the better chose in a real world!? Before I go and start taking things apart... Kind regards Auburn

  • @AntonioClaudioMichael
    @AntonioClaudioMichael 4 года назад +1

    The shaft wiper seal defenitly has metal shavings on it