The drone footage is great, really shows off the river and it’s seams. The video perfectly sums up the excitement of the start of the season. Excellent
Andy delivers again! I don't think I've ever seen such a bend in a 6 weight rod before - that truly was a monster! I love the drone footage, it really shows what's going on in the river much better than the streamside camera. I was out streamer fishing yesterday for a few hours but got blanked - not even a follow. This video has inspired me to get back out there and try it again. I don't think I was doing anything much different to you, but I just did not find the fish. Now I know what kind of water to look for.
Another superb film Andy, good on you! Nice to see such positive comments on the drone footage too. It really does help to show the fold lines and also shows off our river at its best. After you’d gone I had an OOS grayling on one of your green point flies at the same spot you had yours on streamer!! Otherwise had three nice brownies on streamer further upstream. Keep up the great work, can’t wait for more dry fly action!
I thought you'd do alright on the streamers, I thought I should have gone a bit further up for one last fish! I'll take the drone with me more often from now on I think 👍👍
Belting vid Andy (as always) ! The drone footage is invaluable to me as I rejoined the club after many years living away from Derbyshire so to see the various current deflections, seams, slacks and subsurface geography is absolutely priceless for club members who are trying to learn our waters. Perhaps consider filming you or IB working the pools and catching fish from above (via the drone) as this would look freaking awesome and be educational too👍🏻 Please keep up the good work and hope to bump into you both on the bank this season 🎣
Great video Andy, and some stunning fish landed! I mainly target Pike or Perch on the fly, but I am really hoping to get out and target some trout on streamers soon. I haven’t got a clue how to target trout, so videos like this are a great help 👍🏻 Nothing beats the excitement of streamer fishing in my opinion 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Great video this is strikingly similar to how I fly fish for bass in estuaries. I have similar opinions to you on stocking rivers that already have a decent head of wild fish. Stocking brownies is one thing, but I can't imagine how monstrous rainbows like that don't push the smaller brownies and grayling out of pools. As far as I'm concerned, stocked fish have been put in the river to be caught and kept and I would have absoloutely no problem eating that fish, it would be delicious and does the wild fish a favour.
Yep, it's a real conflict for me that one. The other issue is that our club doesn't stock those rainbows, a neighbour club does - do they retain ownership of the fish they stock, and would be knocking one on the head cause issues there? It's a real tough one for me. The solution is not stocking the things, but I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon 😥
Been on the same stretch of water today for a short session trying to improve my very poor Euro skills, a couple of fish took pity on me and threw themselves upon the hook but what doesn't come accross on your video is how much the river is still pushing through at a rate of knots and get yourself thigh+ deep and you really feel it. Not used a wading staff ("Staffing wade" ref IB) yet on the dove but one might be on my belt next time.
Fishing streamers is something I don't do enough of. I remember I hired a Guide to learn a new river. He got us on streamers and as we drifted down the river he had me slamming the bank of the river, saying "Tomahawk Chop 1,2,3 Tomahawk Chop 1,2,3 over and over until I swear he took on a German accent! "Vee have ways of making you chop Herr Pitt!" My shoulder hurt for a week afterwards! I did catch fish though and he packed s good lunch.
Yeah I think the culture of throwing streamers over there from a drift boat is really interesting, it's how we end up with so many super stiff 5#s on the market!
@@IBandAndyFishing the way I was fishing the average cast was 20 feet, no super stuff rods there but the tendency to cast eighty feet is alive and we, when that in my mind is the worst way to fish. You are right though, the majority of fly fishers want to cast a mile.
Hi Andy Here in NZ we have had a great dry fly season amazing really.On the Tongariro river.We are really looking forward to the winter fishing as you know this is when it happens.Caught a nice 4 pounder (rainbow only) yesterday looking for a few brownies to hook up.Hope you guys have a great spring time fishing cheers Steve.
@@IBandAndyFishing Sadly i did not get on as well as you! I was fishing a small river with lots of overhanging trees. I was finding it hard to get the casting right. I will keep giving it a go
Great stuff Andy...excellent you are mixing it up with streamer meets euro nymph techniques...I know in the states they sometimes streamer fish with big suspender indicators , not sure if they use them placed above a sinking tip or just straight into some strong leader...ever had a go at that?cheers john
@@IBandAndyFishing yes that would be a good one...there’s a RUclips film with Dave Jensen where he mixes between chucking streamers, suspending them and tight line nymphing all by adding or moving a new Zealand indicator.
Hi Andy what fly line do you use when streamer fishing here? And where do you get the streamers or assuming you tie them where do you get the skull heads? Cheers
Enjoyed this Andy, nice to see you mixing methods up. I really do like the drone footage, it's a great dimension to your vlogs. A couple of weeks before we can get on the river, the prospect is keeping me going, I'm going to be a more complete angler this year and a lot of that is down to you. Who said you can't teach and old dog new tricks?😂
Yeah I really need to take that drone with me a little bit more often, it's been a pretty expensive doorstop this winter 🙈😂 You looked like you were doing OK last year to me! Tight lines for the coming season!
Hi Andy well fished ,hope IB is well havnt seen anything of her, is IB a fine weather fisher women, brill video thanks very much for taking the time to entertain us, thanks again alan.
Always good videos. I should do more streamer fishing (when I tie more flies) @23:31 If the brown trout were in season and I caught minimum size of 12" (club rules), I would have taken the fish.. I catch and release nowadays. A family member is in a club where they stock fish that are meant to be taken and he's taken them in the past. We're also against stocking huge fish in a river. Thankfully the two clubs I'm in don't stock the rivers I fish any more as they want to increase the chances of wild trout to be in the river.
It’s a remarkable river. We still have a couple of weeks to wait down here. Then it’s dry fly only until after Mayfly. So envious of your ability to use methods that suit conditions
Really good video so your the reason for all the rain thank you 😁 can you please tell me the names of the flys your are using in this video ive looked on the website but cant see them. Thank you
Another great video - Thanks. What was the reason for having the line twisted round the rod between the reel and first eye? Intentional or mistake? Just not used to River fishing so wondered if it was something that you do?
Greetings from Pennsylvania! I learn so much from your channel as your rivers in the UK are practically identical to the spring fed streams I fish here. Question, what is the best way to hook set when swinging streamers in current? Is it a similar approach in swinging for salmon where the fish hooks itself?
Just a thought, but I have recently altered my net position, to a central magnet in the middle of the net and another magnet in the middle of my shoulder blades with the net ending up handle up behind my head for an overhead grab, I am positive you are aware of this style, but bloody hell its so much better in that moment. Howard Croston has a very good video on this, might make a good video for you, takes a bit of Blue peter DIY mind lol anyway, again such a cool video, right up there. Peace.
Yeah I've tried that one a few times and keep going back to handle down, I don't know what the issue is with my shoulder but I find rotating back over my shoulder very awkward, years of fast bowling possibly, it just didn't work for me. I realised when I was editing that I'd put the magnet in the wrong place on my new waders, so I was often grabbing at thin air 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing Yeah it is a bit awkward to grab sometimes, i just kept losing nets and getting caught up in bushes lol, I was wading once and felt a tug on my waist, when I looked round I saw my net full of leaves behind me, well out reach, just bobbing there before it just snapped my leash and disappeared for ever Ha Ha, Lost three nets that season never to be seen again lol to be fair my casting shoulder is ruined just from casting let alone bowling jeez. Glad you tuned your wader net situation.
Went out on the 17th (Lancashire) nothing rising as no bugs out.Did get one brown on the size 12 adams irresistible dry fly. Roughly 2.5lb size. Only fish of the day. Bring on the warmer weather now. Get the bugs out and fish rising.
IB and Andy Fishing yep 👍🏻. Made my day,after 5 months of not touching a rod.Went out yesterday but nothing. Too cold still,they are not rising yet,no bugs out. Hopefully next couple of weeks the weather will warm up so they become active for surface feeding on bugs.I may try again in the next few days just for the heck of it.But bring on the hazy lazy days of summer 😀
They're deadly at this time of year! I've had the drone a while, just never get round to using it. My new trout season resolution is to use the drone more!
I've streamer fished overseas with a fast sink tip (like Teeny) and generally with unweighted fly but short 2-5ft leader. You've gone for a (slow) sink tip and heavy flies (I guess you could use some split shot on the leader and unweighted fly?) When would you prefer fast sinking tip line over the Rio sink tip? And visa-versa. Thanks for posting the video, made me want to try streamer fishing over here...
Hi Michael, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment! The Streamer Tip is a pretty fast sink (6 ips) so it gets down pretty sharpish. The reason I prefer the Streamer tip with the floating rear head and running line is the mending, obviously you can't mend a line once it's sink and I really don't like losing that control of the line once it lands. The other thing is that while I called this water 'deep' I'm not talking much more than 6' so a big Teeny full sinker would be overkill. Maybe on a bigger river, in in a situation where things needed to get down immediately I might look at a T350 but I don't really have those situations here 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing Thanks, I thought the streamer tip was slow 1.5?? Hence I didn't think it would really get down quick enough. Fair comment re: Teeny, I used their line on the Tongariro and loved it - seemed to cast well but sank like depth charge to get down in some fairly deep and faster water. Not sure I'd need that on the Usk. My dream one day is to book a day on the Test or Haddon beats of the Derbershire Wye and just stick on a fast sinking line and orange blob fly, feign ignorance :)
They make an intermediate and a sink6 version so you weren't wrong! A big river like the Tonga you'll need the extra weight from the teeny, that's exactly where those lines excel, they'd be a bit much on the dove though 🙈😂 I keep pestering the Peacock river keeper about 'streamer week' from Oct 1st - 7th, he's not having it yet though! 🙈😂
Been out couple days this week just few hours a day I’m very new to fly fishing and been using dry flies on the river no luck I’ll maybe give streamer a try this weekend hopefully get a wild brownie on the fly this year 🤞🏻
@@IBandAndyFishing once possibly twice at the corner of my eye. Only picked up fishing last July, fly fishing at the end of last season so very new been to a few fisheries for rainbows but really looking to do a lot of river fishing as I’m based in Scotland and have some stunning scenery I’m looking to explore soon as we’re aloud
Andy great video to start with and I watched your last streamer video last week so I’m Streamer’d up now lol just wanted to ask why is there stocked fish in the river ? Surely that must have a knock on effect to the wild spawning fish ? I do agree with you no need to kill them just because and it’s not the fish fault it’s in the river but it doesn’t seem right there in there
I agree with you Andy on stocked fish. Sometimes they’re necessary but I much prefer wild fish. I’m amazed at the size of the stickers in U.K. streams, they’re so much bigger than the stockers in the US. Is the River Dove and other U.K. cold water streams open to the public or are they all private? Your videos are enjoyable and entertaining keep and I have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Dale, that's really kind! There's really very little public game fishing water in the UK. That's not o say there's none, but there's not much, I can't think of any at all in our county!
Often the people who own the fishing rights will sub let them to a club or association which an angler can join, it all costs money though! We get very envious of the way it works over there for you guys 👍👍
Hi Dan, leaders as follows: Streamertip Line - 2' 20lb butt, 2' 15lb, 2' 8lb tippet ; 6' total Floating line - 3' 20lb butt, 3' 15lb, 3' 8lb tippet; total length 9' 👍
Enjoyed this video andy, well done what knot do you use to tie on a streamer? does it need to be a loop type so that it can move naturally or is a clinch type knot suitable?
It's a tough one, all we can do is be vigilant for spawning fish. Still early here yet, they won't start until the water warms another degree or two. Where do you draw the line? Trout spawn December/January, grayling and pike March/April, barbel May/June, chub and tench June/July - for the majority of the season it's spawning time for something 🤷♂️
@@IBandAndyFishing I got your point, but here in Switzerland and also in France, penetration of the riverbed is often forbidden until 1 of May or even 1 of June. But as long as you have good grayling populations, I think wading might be okay. But I think it is also a possibility that we ban waders until all graylings are hatched. Why not, we have to decide for the fish, not the fisherman in the first place (my opinion). Cheers mate, love the work you do!
@@IBandAndyFishing A side rant, but depending on where you are - coarse fish *possibly* should just be taken out and knocked on the head. At least the Welsh sections of the Wye never had coarse fish: river. The thing about Grayling fishing is that people may 'shuffle' and/or accidentally stomp over the trout redds. Grayling fishing is too cold for me, I'll watch the IB and Andy channel and tie flies in the winter :)
@@IBandAndyFishing Yes it is a hard question. At least in our area, it is only the trout and the grayling which are endangered. So protecting them makes sense to me. Pike and tench are not spawning in our trout rivers, so the only fish left to protect might be the barbel (and chubs in some areas, but there are tons of these guys). I think in the end we just have to take care if wading is allowed during spawning of the grayling. And to be honest, in the videos it looks like you have no chance to see if there are spawning pits in the deep water. Cheers ;)
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'How to catch a fish with your line twisted around the rod'. Fantastic start to the season Andy.
😂😂 I managed to fix it before it got me in trouble!
@@IBandAndyFishing yeah i noticed, we've all done it though
The drone footage is great, really shows off the river and it’s seams. The video perfectly sums up the excitement of the start of the season. Excellent
Thanks Richard! It was pretty handy for showing the seams I agree, totally by accident!
I've watched this video about 5 times now. I'd love more streamer fishing!
Andy delivers again! I don't think I've ever seen such a bend in a 6 weight rod before - that truly was a monster! I love the drone footage, it really shows what's going on in the river much better than the streamside camera.
I was out streamer fishing yesterday for a few hours but got blanked - not even a follow. This video has inspired me to get back out there and try it again. I don't think I was doing anything much different to you, but I just did not find the fish. Now I know what kind of water to look for.
Great video - cracking fish! Thanks for posting details of your kit - really useful.
Thanks for watching Iain! Most of the stuff I used in this vlog has been discontinued for years but there are a couple of bits in there! 👍
Great vlog. Touch of the John Wilsons in the commentary.
That's very kind, I'm not sure John Wilson would agree though 🙈😂
Another superb film Andy, good on you!
Nice to see such positive comments on the drone footage too. It really does help to show the fold lines and also shows off our river at its best.
After you’d gone I had an OOS grayling on one of your green point flies at the same spot you had yours on streamer!!
Otherwise had three nice brownies on streamer further upstream.
Keep up the great work, can’t wait for more dry fly action!
I thought you'd do alright on the streamers, I thought I should have gone a bit further up for one last fish!
I'll take the drone with me more often from now on I think 👍👍
Brilliant Film Mate.
This streamer thing has really got my attention recently, Kelly Galoup stuff etc, super cool.
It's such a fun and engaging method, and it really can buy you a few bigger bonus fish too- give them a swing!
@@IBandAndyFishing Gonna try it tomorow morning man, thanks.
great days fishing again Andy.Do like the drone footage too.
I saw this video on I just felt pure excitement, love the vids keep it up
Thanks Sam, really glad you enjoyed it!
Drone footage !!!....holy moly....step aside Spielberg....hahaha.....great vid as usual...thanks for the share :-)
Belting vid Andy (as always) !
The drone footage is invaluable to me as I rejoined the club after many years living away from Derbyshire so to see the various current deflections, seams, slacks and subsurface geography is absolutely priceless for club members who are trying to learn our waters.
Perhaps consider filming you or IB working the pools and catching fish from above (via the drone) as this would look freaking awesome and be educational too👍🏻
Please keep up the good work and hope to bump into you both on the bank this season 🎣
Nice fish!
Went out on our opening day, used that fishskull woolly bugger, had a couple crackers :)
Brilliant stuff Joseph! How were you fishing it, long strips, short strips, just a swing?
@@IBandAndyFishing bit of everything, but three came on short strips in groups of 3 and 4 with pauses. Then I had one on long strips facing upstream.
Sounds like you got it figured out on the day!
Great video Andy, and some stunning fish landed!
I mainly target Pike or Perch on the fly, but I am really hoping to get out and target some trout on streamers soon. I haven’t got a clue how to target trout, so videos like this are a great help 👍🏻
Nothing beats the excitement of streamer fishing in my opinion 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Great video this is strikingly similar to how I fly fish for bass in estuaries. I have similar opinions to you on stocking rivers that already have a decent head of wild fish. Stocking brownies is one thing, but I can't imagine how monstrous rainbows like that don't push the smaller brownies and grayling out of pools. As far as I'm concerned, stocked fish have been put in the river to be caught and kept and I would have absoloutely no problem eating that fish, it would be delicious and does the wild fish a favour.
Yep, it's a real conflict for me that one. The other issue is that our club doesn't stock those rainbows, a neighbour club does - do they retain ownership of the fish they stock, and would be knocking one on the head cause issues there? It's a real tough one for me. The solution is not stocking the things, but I don't think that's gonna happen any time soon 😥
Been on the same stretch of water today for a short session trying to improve my very poor Euro skills, a couple of fish took pity on me and threw themselves upon the hook but what doesn't come accross on your video is how much the river is still pushing through at a rate of knots and get yourself thigh+ deep and you really feel it. Not used a wading staff ("Staffing wade" ref IB) yet on the dove but one might be on my belt next time.
Honking through isn't it?! Glad you got a few, must be pretty clear by now?
“Frickin “ great vid 😂👍
Fishing streamers is something I don't do enough of. I remember I hired a Guide to learn a new river. He got us on streamers and as we drifted down the river he had me slamming the bank of the river, saying "Tomahawk Chop 1,2,3 Tomahawk Chop 1,2,3 over and over until I swear he took on a German accent!
"Vee have ways of making you chop Herr Pitt!"
My shoulder hurt for a week afterwards! I did catch fish though and he packed s good lunch.
Yeah I think the culture of throwing streamers over there from a drift boat is really interesting, it's how we end up with so many super stiff 5#s on the market!
@@IBandAndyFishing the way I was fishing the average cast was 20 feet, no super stuff rods there but the tendency to cast eighty feet is alive and we, when that in my mind is the worst way to fish. You are right though, the majority of fly fishers want to cast a mile.
Hi Andy Here in NZ we have had a great dry fly season amazing really.On the Tongariro river.We are really looking forward to the winter fishing as you know this is when it happens.Caught a nice 4 pounder (rainbow only) yesterday looking for a few brownies to hook up.Hope you guys have a great spring time fishing cheers Steve.
Im off out tomorrow and will take the streamers with me. Keep them coming
Great stuff Andy, let us know how you go!
@@IBandAndyFishing Sadly i did not get on as well as you! I was fishing a small river with lots of overhanging trees. I was finding it hard to get the casting right. I will keep giving it a go
Hi andy nice fish mate hope there's a few like that waiting for me tomorrow morning 😂 cheers mate tight lines
They'll be down there David, just you wait and see! Tight lines for the morning, let us know how you get on!
@@IBandAndyFishing cheers mate first day out since October just getting fishing will do 😉
I feel you on that one, enjoy it bud, you deserve it! 👍👍👍
Great stuff Andy...excellent you are mixing it up with streamer meets euro nymph techniques...I know in the states they sometimes streamer fish with big suspender indicators , not sure if they use them placed above a sinking tip or just straight into some strong leader...ever had a go at that?cheers john
I've not dead drifted a streamer before no, that sounds like a future vlog!
@@IBandAndyFishing yes that would be a good one...there’s a RUclips film with Dave Jensen where he mixes between chucking streamers, suspending them and tight line nymphing all by adding or moving a new Zealand indicator.
Hi Andy what fly line do you use when streamer fishing here? And where do you get the streamers or assuming you tie them where do you get the skull heads? Cheers
Excellent 👍
Thanks James! 👍
Enjoyed this Andy, nice to see you mixing methods up. I really do like the drone footage, it's a great dimension to your vlogs. A couple of weeks before we can get on the river, the prospect is keeping me going, I'm going to be a more complete angler this year and a lot of that is down to you. Who said you can't teach and old dog new tricks?😂
Yeah I really need to take that drone with me a little bit more often, it's been a pretty expensive doorstop this winter 🙈😂
You looked like you were doing OK last year to me! Tight lines for the coming season!
Hi Andy well fished ,hope IB is well havnt seen anything of her, is IB a fine weather fisher women, brill video thanks
very much for taking the time to entertain us, thanks again alan.
Hi Alan! She's well, very busy with work and not getting many chances to fish. She'll be back soon!
Always good videos. I should do more streamer fishing (when I tie more flies)
@23:31 If the brown trout were in season and I caught minimum size of 12" (club rules), I would have taken the fish.. I catch and release nowadays. A family member is in a club where they stock fish that are meant to be taken and he's taken them in the past. We're also against stocking huge fish in a river. Thankfully the two clubs I'm in don't stock the rivers I fish any more as they want to increase the chances of wild trout to be in the river.
Thank you! Now I know what to do with my Sage TCR 590-4! What line are you using on yours?
That's a #6 Rio Streamer Tip S6, works nicely on that rod 👍
It’s a remarkable river. We still have a couple of weeks to wait down here. Then it’s dry fly only until after Mayfly. So envious of your ability to use methods that suit conditions
Not only do we get to use streamers but we're also allowed to put gravy on our chips- what it is to be a northerner!
@@IBandAndyFishing sorry Andy, but gravy on chips is just wrong....thats from a midlander!
Guilty pleasure! 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing its just wrong Andy!
As Richard Ayoade might say, "it's all kinds of wrong".
Can you still spin for trout during the closed river season?
Really good video so your the reason for all the rain thank you 😁 can you please tell me the names of the flys your are using in this video ive looked on the website but cant see them. Thank you
Yeah sorry about me Stephen!🙈😂 there's a link to the flies in the description box below the videos bud 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing Ill let you off this time 🤣🤣. Thank you ill have a look. Thanks
Another great video - Thanks. What was the reason for having the line twisted round the rod between the reel and first eye? Intentional or mistake? Just not used to River fishing so wondered if it was something that you do?
Hi Any chance of doing some streamer tying over the winter months , did you tie the ones in the video
Greetings from Pennsylvania! I learn so much from your channel as your rivers in the UK are practically identical to the spring fed streams I fish here. Question, what is the best way to hook set when swinging streamers in current? Is it a similar approach in swinging for salmon where the fish hooks itself?
Just a thought, but I have recently altered my net position, to a central magnet in the middle of the net and another magnet in the middle of my shoulder blades with the net ending up handle up behind my head for an overhead grab, I am positive you are aware of this style, but bloody hell its so much better in that moment. Howard Croston has a very good video on this, might make a good video for you, takes a bit of Blue peter DIY mind lol
anyway, again such a cool video, right up there.
Peace.
Yeah I've tried that one a few times and keep going back to handle down, I don't know what the issue is with my shoulder but I find rotating back over my shoulder very awkward, years of fast bowling possibly, it just didn't work for me. I realised when I was editing that I'd put the magnet in the wrong place on my new waders, so I was often grabbing at thin air 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing Yeah it is a bit awkward to grab sometimes, i just kept losing nets and getting caught up in bushes lol, I was wading once and felt a tug on my waist, when I looked round I saw my net full of leaves behind me, well out reach, just bobbing there before it just snapped my leash and disappeared for ever Ha Ha, Lost three nets that season never to be seen again lol
to be fair my casting shoulder is ruined just from casting let alone bowling jeez.
Glad you tuned your wader net situation.
Went out on the 17th (Lancashire) nothing rising as no bugs out.Did get one brown on the size 12 adams irresistible dry fly. Roughly 2.5lb size. Only fish of the day. Bring on the warmer weather now. Get the bugs out and fish rising.
Great job Peter, sounds like a brilliant start to the season! 👏
IB and Andy Fishing yep 👍🏻. Made my day,after 5 months of not touching a rod.Went out yesterday but nothing. Too cold still,they are not rising yet,no bugs out. Hopefully next couple of weeks the weather will warm up so they become active for surface feeding on bugs.I may try again in the next few days just for the heck of it.But bring on the hazy lazy days of summer 😀
Amen to that, can't beat a warm breeze on your face while you stalk a rising trout - it'll soon be time!
Only been out once since the start of the season for a blank. Note to self, try streamers like Andy showed you!!
Love the drone footage, new toy?
They're deadly at this time of year! I've had the drone a while, just never get round to using it. My new trout season resolution is to use the drone more!
@@IBandAndyFishing it does give viewers a nice perspective of where you're fishing and a great "quality" touch. I liked it! 👍😊
Then I'll keep taking it! Really appreciate the feedback nick! 👍
I've streamer fished overseas with a fast sink tip (like Teeny) and generally with unweighted fly but short 2-5ft leader. You've gone for a (slow) sink tip and heavy flies (I guess you could use some split shot on the leader and unweighted fly?) When would you prefer fast sinking tip line over the Rio sink tip? And visa-versa. Thanks for posting the video, made me want to try streamer fishing over here...
Hi Michael, thanks for watching and taking the time to comment!
The Streamer Tip is a pretty fast sink (6 ips) so it gets down pretty sharpish. The reason I prefer the Streamer tip with the floating rear head and running line is the mending, obviously you can't mend a line once it's sink and I really don't like losing that control of the line once it lands.
The other thing is that while I called this water 'deep' I'm not talking much more than 6' so a big Teeny full sinker would be overkill. Maybe on a bigger river, in in a situation where things needed to get down immediately I might look at a T350 but I don't really have those situations here 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing Thanks, I thought the streamer tip was slow 1.5?? Hence I didn't think it would really get down quick enough. Fair comment re: Teeny, I used their line on the Tongariro and loved it - seemed to cast well but sank like depth charge to get down in some fairly deep and faster water. Not sure I'd need that on the Usk. My dream one day is to book a day on the Test or Haddon beats of the Derbershire Wye and just stick on a fast sinking line and orange blob fly, feign ignorance :)
They make an intermediate and a sink6 version so you weren't wrong!
A big river like the Tonga you'll need the extra weight from the teeny, that's exactly where those lines excel, they'd be a bit much on the dove though 🙈😂
I keep pestering the Peacock river keeper about 'streamer week' from Oct 1st - 7th, he's not having it yet though! 🙈😂
Bloody superb film, the size of that rainbow!!!!
Where do you get these type flies/lures..?
If you haven't already you should do a review on the airflow streamteck v2 for the brown trout absaloute beast of a rod Andy 🎣🎣
Been out couple days this week just few hours a day I’m very new to fly fishing and been using dry flies on the river no luck I’ll maybe give streamer a try this weekend hopefully get a wild brownie on the fly this year 🤞🏻
Stick at it Sam, hardest time of the year right now! Have you seen any fish rise?
@@IBandAndyFishing once possibly twice at the corner of my eye. Only picked up fishing last July, fly fishing at the end of last season so very new been to a few fisheries for rainbows but really looking to do a lot of river fishing as I’m based in Scotland and have some stunning scenery I’m looking to explore soon as we’re aloud
Ahhhhh man you'll love it! Have you tried using the duo method on the rivers? It's often a good bet if there's only the occasional riser 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing I’ve not no I’ll definitely give that a go thanks for all the informative videos and advice 👍🏻
Nice video.
Instead of struggling with the streamer line. Why not use a mono rig setup?
Hi Andy, is this stretch for members only? Can you buy day fishing tickets?
Hi Lukasz, this is a members only stretch yes, there aren't any day tickets on here.
You’ve got your line twisted threaded through rings wrong lol did you not notice 😂
Great vid. What size streamers are you using?
Andy , that tcr 5 is super stiff. Look out for a tcr 691. Really responsive and a nicer rod to play and cast with.
It's a beast, had it years, a real love hate relationship. It's a useless trout rod, I just love casting it! 🙈😂
@@IBandAndyFishing Andy, I don't know if you have used any atomsix rods?....some crackers in the range.
I've not used one no, they look beautifully made though!
@@IBandAndyFishing they are lovely rods and Steve Parkes is a good lad. V good caster as well.
Andy great video to start with and I watched your last streamer video last week so I’m
Streamer’d up now lol just wanted to ask why is there stocked fish in the river ? Surely that must have a knock on effect to the wild spawning fish ? I do agree with you no need to kill them just because and it’s not the fish fault it’s in the river but it doesn’t seem right there in there
I agree with you Andy on stocked fish. Sometimes they’re necessary but I much prefer wild fish. I’m amazed at the size of the stickers in U.K. streams, they’re so much bigger than the stockers in the US. Is the River Dove and other U.K. cold water streams open to the public or are they all private?
Your videos are enjoyable and entertaining keep and I have learned a lot from your videos. Keep up the good work.
Thanks Dale, that's really kind! There's really very little public game fishing water in the UK. That's not o say there's none, but there's not much, I can't think of any at all in our county!
@@IBandAndyFishing so how do you gain access?
Often the people who own the fishing rights will sub let them to a club or association which an angler can join, it all costs money though! We get very envious of the way it works over there for you guys 👍👍
@@IBandAndyFishing my local council have a stretch of my local river and is free to everyone to fish. But it’s not the best.
Yeah there are small isolated stretches of river, but very few and as you say they're never prime water 👍
How lomg do you make your leader?
Hi Dan, leaders as follows:
Streamertip Line - 2' 20lb butt, 2' 15lb, 2' 8lb tippet ; 6' total
Floating line - 3' 20lb butt, 3' 15lb, 3' 8lb tippet; total length 9'
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Enjoyed this video andy, well done
what knot do you use to tie on a streamer? does it need to be a loop type so that it can move naturally or is a clinch type knot suitable?
I don't think it NEEDS to be, but I do like a loop personally. I use a perfection loop 👍
@@IBandAndyFishing thanks! good to know. looking forward to some of your dry fly videos in the near future!
I'm looking forward to filming them, wish it would warm up a bit 🙈🎣
Would I need to fish sinking lines in 8 ft of water
In a river yes I think there would be an advantage, floaters just get washed away 👍
What’s a day on this river cost?
Where has IB been?
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Must have been a mare to cast lol
Why are you guys allowed to wade there when graylings are spawning/just spawned? doesn't make sense for me
It's a tough one, all we can do is be vigilant for spawning fish. Still early here yet, they won't start until the water warms another degree or two.
Where do you draw the line? Trout spawn December/January, grayling and pike March/April, barbel May/June, chub and tench June/July - for the majority of the season it's spawning time for something 🤷♂️
@@IBandAndyFishing I got your point, but here in Switzerland and also in France, penetration of the riverbed is often forbidden until 1 of May or even 1 of June. But as long as you have good grayling populations, I think wading might be okay. But I think it is also a possibility that we ban waders until all graylings are hatched. Why not, we have to decide for the fish, not the fisherman in the first place (my opinion). Cheers mate, love the work you do!
Then I guess my point is, which fish? It can't just be for Trout and grayling but for all fish? No wading between December and August?
@@IBandAndyFishing A side rant, but depending on where you are - coarse fish *possibly* should just be taken out and knocked on the head. At least the Welsh sections of the Wye never had coarse fish: river.
The thing about Grayling fishing is that people may 'shuffle' and/or accidentally stomp over the trout redds. Grayling fishing is too cold for me, I'll watch the IB and Andy channel and tie flies in the winter :)
@@IBandAndyFishing Yes it is a hard question. At least in our area, it is only the trout and the grayling which are endangered. So protecting them makes sense to me. Pike and tench are not spawning in our trout rivers, so the only fish left to protect might be the barbel (and chubs in some areas, but there are tons of these guys). I think in the end we just have to take care if wading is allowed during spawning of the grayling. And to be honest, in the videos it looks like you have no chance to see if there are spawning pits in the deep water. Cheers ;)