I like how the words "the last best one" were used. It made me think of my experience with windows. To sum it up....I started with a Win 95 machine with a 100MB hard drive. That thing was $2000. Winamp was awesome!!! Then Win 98 came. This is great!! Win 98SE. WTF is this?? Win 2000 Cool! Win ME. WTF is this?? Win XP. This is the best one!!! Win Vista. WTF is this?? Win 7. Its not XP...but your good. Win 8. WTF is this? Win 8.1 and his homie Bing. WTF is this 2...the sequel. Win 10. Who are you anymore? I thought we was cool? Why I gotta use hacking tools to uninstall normal stuff? I had to run a script to be able to choose when antivirus is on or not. I can't uninstall cortana. Its like some chick living in my PC thats always there...in the room...just looking at you not saying a word. Just dormant...don't give no head. Your not fooling me Microsoft. You say Internet Explorer is over. If it looks like an Internet Explorer...and sounds like an Internet Explorer...and uses Bing like an Internet Explorer...I'm just saying...Someone is faking their death. CoughEdgeCough
I still haven't forgotten how they claimed for a time that Windows 10 would be the "final" OS and that they'd largely just update the same system infinitely, I'm so done with claims like that.
It's literally impossible to maintain software forever. Think of it like a house of cards; there comes a point where it becomes too difficult to manage and build upon it, and you will inevitably have to start all over. I immediately called bs on M$ when they made that claim. Wasn't due to a lack of trust, but that it has never been done before, and software developers argue all the time regarding which design decisions are simplest, secure, and most future-proof.
@@immortalnub Absolutely a good point, I wondered if maybe they would in essence make an updated OS with a similar interface/feel and just still call it Windows 10, but we know how it really went down. It just baffled me that they made that claim in the first place.
@@epicnicity916 But then it wouldn't be windows 10 anymore. You would have a completely new os. Trying to pass it off as an update would cause win 10 computers to break.
Win 7 hasn't aged poorly as well. If they still made drivers for Win 7 for modern hardware, I bet many of us would go back. Microsoft keeps reinventing the wheel for no reason
Bet you when there can't reinvent the wheel anymore, The final OS will become a subscription service to get updates and other tacky junk, or things what we had acess before will become exclusive features to the subscription service.
man its to the point where i run my own win10 iso (blank, debloated with CTT and nexus lite toolkit) with all the win7 theme tweaks like Aero7 for Windowblinds11, windows 7 mouse cursors and sound packs, and the win7 icons via 7tsp 🤣. I mean i could very much just reinstall win7 onto my machine but given the lack of driver support and security updates (besides the one the dropped at the end of 2023 i think), it wouldnt be convenient for everyday use. honestly shouldve just ended with 7 and kept updating it. the aero still holds up as well lmaoooo
@@linardskinard8199 This will never happen, but I'd guess that if MS dusted off W7, added in modern drivers and support, and sold it for $300+ a copy, they would make billions in worldwide sales. With all of the nostalgia games coming out, I'm kind of surprised they haven't done this.
I always more fond of my old XP machine at the time due to how archaic it felt in contrast, but regardless I remember thinking of Windows 7 as the future of computing at that time. Once they switched their inventory out for Windows 8, it felt as if it was propelled towards a downward projectory ever since; especially with all the leftover UI reminiscent of Vista & 7 that still remains.
its incredible to see how much nicer and aesthetically pleasing win7 ui, icons and images were. all neatly organised and uncluttered and quicker to access and so on and so on. win10 and win11 somehow screwed all this up, like how does that happen? do they not do focus testing? like do they just test this stuff themselves and just hope the public will like it. billions and billions of dollars and they cant get some basics right. what a joke.
I've concluded that Win7 was the last Microsoft OS where the primary goal WAS user satisfaction and ease of use. With 10 and 11, the paradigm has changed, simple as that. Now the driving force is the money they make from advertising/promoting within the OS and of course mining user data. Hence THEY KNOW it's an inferior UI - it's not a lack of focus testing - but the goal is now making it TOLERABLE for the average person to use while maximizing those back-channel streams of income. I know for a fact that there were developers who left Microsoft, outraged over the course the company took with Windows 10.
What you describe in your first two sentences, apply as is more upon XP and earlier. 7 was already too cluttered, unneat, unorganized, slow-access, and so so on on. But yeah otherwise agree completely, and 7 looks now really nice compared to its exponentially worse successors.
People just call me an "old boomer that can't get with the times"... I'm only 27 but I've finally some sanity. Windows 7 was the last desktop OS by Microsoft, as you said in the video. Now more than ever I have seen people tweaking their OS or even creating custom ISO's to disable or remove half the cr*p, or go to the old context menus.
Calling someone a boomer for liking an older iteration of whatever is just a garbage take. Makes me think of that episode of HIMYM where Barney argues that newer is always better, and Ted asks him if new Guns N' Roses are better than old GNR.
I miss the simplicity so much. A part of me wonders if they want to "hide" customization as much as possible, to always have our experiences tailored to what they want us doing, and not what we want to be doing.
The Window7 release was genuinely exciting ... It was a huge change, and felt like a real update ... This days it all feels like cosmetic changes, and insertion of ever more spyware into the OS itself.
Windows 7 is technically Vista Service Pack 3 and Windows 7 SP1 is technically Vista SP4 because of the similar UI and major quality-of-life improvements compared to Vista. So the last good version of Windows is technically a bugfix update to an OS that is regarded as a bad Windows release.
Here in 2022 I still love using my Windows 7 professional version. I pretty much only use it for everyday things and live chats on RUclips but that's all I need, it's simple & unsophisticated but I like that!
It's definitely not unsophisticated - W10 and 11 are. Although 7 was already less sophisticated than XP which was last good release having true improvements over precedessors. I will never be using any later Windows than 7.
@@TheSimoc_"I will never be using any later Windows than 7."_ Please note that Windows 7 doesn't receive any security updates any longer. I recommend not using that system for anything critical, like banking, shopping or other security sensitive activities. Even gaming may get worse, since Nvidia/AMD don't provide driver updates for EOL OS's, afaik.
@@riseandshinemrfriman5925 Don't worry, that security update hysteria and fearmonger marketing never stops amusing me. Yeah, it is true Windows 7 doesn't receive security updates anymore. Nor does Windows XP and 98 I still use in a few of my machines. Nor does either of my cars, model years '87 and '88, nor my house built in '63 - all of which have way more severe security vulnerabilities in comparison to new cars and houses than any old OS will ever have in comparison to anything. If there really was such vulnerabilities that really, in reality, without updates would account into such a suicidal situation as the fearmongering marketeers want to make them sound like, then using any of those now-old OSes would have been pure suicide to use in first place, since very beginning, throughout all these years or decades, as well as the using of the newest OS today, without the yet-to-be-published important security update of the next month. Don't get me wrong. I am not against security. I like real security. I use firewalls, I have disabled unnecessary and vulnerable Windows services and features, I have set up limited-privilege user profiles for daily use, I use common sense and I like to familiarize thoroughly with how the systems I use initiate connections with other parties. The last one is the overwhelmingly most important point of security and also overwhelmingly underrated among the hysteria-buying people. The newer systems tend to be actually way more vulnerable especially for average users, because they have drastically more complicated and scrambled UIs to surf throughout all the security-impacting settings, and they also tend to have a lot of "deep integration", where even a savvy user has a real challenge to really stay on the map about which profile of which online service and which application program are linked into each other, what data is being shared and shown, etc. So yeah, I actually love real security, but I just don't buy the unfounded hysteria wanting us to think that if we are missing the latest updates, any hacker could just grab our computers through the lines. No, it is not that easy. It practically always requires actual negligent user action to really expose the computer for the hackers. If it was that easy, there would be no markets for those Indian tech support scammers who actually need to give quite a lot of user action instructions for victims to make their exploits work. Furthermore, banking and other most critical uses are secured with multi-factor authentication, which makes it quite impossible to do any exploits by any OS vulnerability, especially when one part of authentication is done by the paper one-time-use number list. You are right though that everything gets harder as software (including hardware drivers) support is being dropped, sadly mostly for sake of dropping. For that, along with a few other reasons, I am slowly but surely migrating into Linux. However, I still have a long time to use Windows 7 and even earlier, as most software I need does already exist as old enough versions to run on them, and I am not at all into modern games anyway - games contemporary to old OSes are much better.
Have to add yet a couple of more points: The code bloat has become horrible since times Windows XP. About the vulnerability bugs, the bloat is the #1 driver for such, since the more amount of code, the more outsourced libraries, frameworks, and automated code generation tools are used, the more attack vectors are involved, and the less overall knowledge about the inner workings of the end product any individual developer knows, thus exponentially increasing the risk of unnoticed severe mistakes, and actually this even severely enables single malicious actors to infiltrate malicious code within the official development process. Older, simpler, and more efficiently and professionally coded software is way easier to get secured, both on development process, patching, and even by user actions, than today's bloatware. And to add an insult to injury, all those most hysteric people buying all the fearmongering marketing, don't much give a shit about any real security issues. They are sharing all about their personal lives on social media, and using and carrying their contactless payment cards all around, not giving a thought about the fact that their card number and expiry date are readable as plain text with any generic NFC reader hidden in a pocket, sleeve, or glove of a passer-by, who can then use that data to pay orders from Amazon. No rocket science involved, and almost a guaranteed way for the thief to get something, on the victim's loss. Exact opposite to the case of using Windows 7 or XP, with practical impossibility for the hacker to even gain access as long as common sense from the legitimate user is obeyed, and even if some kind of access is gained, it has took quite a skill and bother from the intruder, to hardly still get anything advantageous to steal. At least not any money from a bank account, it will be stopped by the paper-card authentication at least, if the hacker somehow managed through everything else.
Windows 7 will always be more beautiful than 10 and 11 ever will be. None of this "UWP" and 2 settings panel bullshit existed in Windows 7, and it was so much more responsive than 10 and 11.
7 is the LAST great thing to EVER come from Redmond. I feel 8 began the decline in quality and it’s gotten worse with 10 and onwards. The Aero theme in 7 was lovely and colorable. Shame it wasn’t showcased here. I find myself using Linux more these days. Using a DE like Cinnamon gives me the old feelings when the Desktop UI just made sense.
@Potatoh Apple is fine, It can be a bit fussy with apps from "unverified sources" but it's a fair OS. I used it and it's fine. If you have an iPhone, iMessage is seriously handy. Gaming is nearly non-existent on macOS though. I think it was Catalina onwards that killed 32-bit support. A good OS for productivity and other media.
Cinnamon is fantastic, it's so good and reliable while remaining very familiar. I started Linux using KDE Plasma but I ran into numerous huge issues that I simply can't recommend that for a new user, Cinnamon on the other hand fits the bill perfectly imo.
@@InfernalMonsoon Cinnamon seems like a great DE. I've been using KDE and haven't had any real problems with it. I know it's janky on Manjaro but elsewhere it's been good. I wish Cinnamon would get some more love though. It's pretty underrated!
Windows 7 is a clean, robust and fast operating system. Windows 10/11 is an ad provider with spyware backend, turning the users into involuntary crowd testers. I want a clean and secure operating system, that keeps me in control and doesn't close/update/crash/incompatiblirize my work all the time. So in terms of productive usage win 7 is the more secure choice. Also its very useful to have Aero (native in Windows 7) active, so you can see through window borders. You can literally SEE what is behind a window, without the need to move it out of the way. So useful to see when something changes in the other window. Windows devolved so heavily...
The glare is not what he was talking about when he said "aero glass." Its impossible to use in VM's, But windows 7 and vista had OPTIONAL transparent window topbars that blurred and reflected anything behind them. It looked amazing and windows removed it for "performance" despite the fact it was ALWAYS OPTIONAL.
@TodaylsTheDay Performance lmao. As if they even care about performance with their half hour searches and 40 minute folder deletions It’s incredibly simple to render opacity since rendering is done in layers anyway
I kept Windows 7 until 10 came out cause 8 felt like such a ridiculous downgrade, and what's funny is the old stuff from 7 is still in 11 so why doesn't MS just give us the option to turn off all the middle-men bs layers for experienced users.
Because they want your data basically, that's my issues with 11. I paid for that thing and they still put ads on it, or move the menus somewhere hard to find for some reason. I spent some minutes navigating my way to change the IP setting, they put it on "advance" tabs somehow, sht like this grind my gear, common users dont use that setting, but some who deal with networking do and they had to made me do extra click on stuff that used to be easily accessed in win 7. They put ads and bloatware on my fully paid OS. Take my data/metrics. And made it cumbersome to disable/enabling something. Had i have the choice i would like to keep using windows 7
One of the most egregious regressions after 7 is the fact that you can't rename shortcuts you place in the sidebar of File Explorer. When you work in an actual company that does actual work, you have many different project folders that share the same subfolder structure with identical names. So when you create shortcuts to these subfolders, you need to be able to change the name, or you'll end up with a list of folders that all share the same name. I knew many people who were driven nuts by this and begged MS to change it back, but they never listened.
@@notacheesybiscuitThe ancient software probably performs much better than Windows 10-11. No need to create an account to open a pdf. Everyone was much more productive with Windows 7
Because windows 7 was ahead of time, it's my favorite operating system alongside windows xp. Nothing is better than aero theme, it's underrated as well as aero 3d flip (yes, it exists after I tested it while studying the keyboard shortcuts). It has never failed to impress me since my childhood due to charming ui, solid and stable performance. I first used it on my pc and then my dad's laptop which is now mine, I played lots of games without any major problems, watched videos and photos and so on. The apps are user-friendly and no bloatware there, I'm still using it today. No need to ask me to upgrade to windows 10 due to specs limitations. I also don't feel like moving to linux for some reasons, I don't want to give up on various games since the majority support windows only. Edit 1: I lost count on how many times I have changed the operating system on my laptop but currently, I'm using windows 8.1. Edit 2: I dual booted my laptop with windows 7 and 8.1
You technically still can play windows games on Linux trough some apps like wine and lutris and some people somehow even made a reverse engineering of the iconic windows xp pinball game "space cadet" and it works just fine on my old laptop. But I can understand why you choose to remain on win 7 it just feels so good like somebody from Microsoft really comes with a good idea.
@@donquixotedoflamingo5510 You couldn't be more wrong with that statement, there is less protection from an OS perspective but there are other layers of protection that is still applicable and works well, especially with someone with a decent brain.
Wrong at what? Listen, All i'm saying is be careful with your info as there is no default protection and most people don't use their brains. Using Windows 7 WITHOUT PREPARATION OR CARE on the internet is asking to get exploited -- not IF but WHEN! Yes you have to apply some sort of protection yourself which is what i'm doing, install a good anti-virus, use updated browsers, don't go on weird websites etc etc...Saying you're more likely to be hacked by 10/11 is being clueless.
get Opatch its about 25 quid ish a year per system and they will patch it no probs, I'm staying on 7 pro x64 as prefer it, main system and both mine and dads laptop uses it, its great, 10 is ok, but 11 is diabolical
The thing I like the most about Windows 7 is that it was the last "true" Windows. It was an operating system, plain and simple. A clean platform to build your programs, games, and everything else on top of. These days Windows is littered with telemetry, spyware and so much pre-installed junk that even laptop manufacturers look like saints by comparison. I hung onto it for dear life until 2021 when I simply had to make the switch due to some of my newer games simply not running on Windows 7. The only alternative these days seems to be Linux. That is, if you don't mind spending hours trying to get your incompatible games to play nice with Wine. If I wasn't an avid gamer, I'd definitely have switched by now.
I still use 7 to this day. I was almost forced to 10/11 or 8.1 because the drivers for my 3080 wouldn’t work on it until a few months ago. Yes, I know it’s outdated, yes I know it’s less secure and I’m probably an idiot for staying on it, but I absolutely love that sort of 3d skeuomorphic design and the aero glass. It still serves its purpose as a great os, with no preinstalled or background bloat that 10 and 11 have.
Same man... I got a Ryzen motherboard with a B550 chipset (which is the first AMD chipset to not officially support 7), and through fire and flames I eventually got 7 working on it. Haven't got a simple complaint, everything works very well, every device has drivers (although the processor doesn't show in device manager LOL) and all of my programs work. I even played 10-only games! BTW, don't buy this "its not secure!!1" shit. All antiviruses still work even on XP, and at the kernel level Windows hasn't changed at all since Vista.
Don't believe the other hype about migrating. Most govt institutions still use 7 or older windows server for their core systems. It's also Probably more secure since hackers will usually go for OS with more users since reward will likely be larger.
@@Milennium1902 > kernel level Windows hasn't changed at all since Vista. deomnstrably false also the issue is not just the kernel but other compnents. antivirus means jack shit nowadays.
Regarding security? Like how would using win7 affect you? I presume you aren't doing anything on the dark web and are only using normal websites and playing games so how would someone specifically choose you for an attack or smth idk?
I just reinstalled Windows 7 on an old PC that shipped with it, and I was shocked by how snappy it was compared to modern windows and that's on a sandy bridge processor and a low budget SSD. I've gotten so used to the random lag and delay of Windows 10 that I didn't realize how slow it is. Keep in mind I have a Ryzen 9 5950X, 64 GB of 3600 MHz ram, and a Samsung Evo 980 Pro, and an RTX 3080. On top of that, every single windows application has telemetry in it now and many of the old responsive applications are getting replaced with laggy unresponsive watered down UWP/WPF versions of the applications. It's really sad to see what the desktop windows experience has become. The only saving grace from Microsoft making Windows a nightmare is that it's put pressure on the Linux community to improve WINE and gaming support for Linux.
Windos 10 is great ect but its lagging , the os is just a bloatware and as for 11 ohh dont get me started with that one ..i uninstalled it two hours later after installation i cant deal with it ...its a useless os .. the hardware and performance of today is higher ND greater but slower OS 😢
I miss windows 7 so much, I have so many crazy lags on 10 and 11. My keyboard will just lag sometimes, apps like Chrome just lag like hell. This is on a very powerful system too and win 7 never did that to me unless i had a virus.
For me the acid test is, Windows 7 is the OS that I used the least amount of custom UI replacements. My only change is using Open-Shell. You can add MKV support to the OS and then the media centre and media player will handle them (my preference is the standalone filters from the Media Player Classic branches). I'll be very interested to see your Win10 makeover and how much I missed. I have some of the hidden Win 7 UI components enabled and use the hidden lite theme which add window borders.
Only had issues with a wireless pci nic that was out of an old oem pc & Couldnt find the right drivers for it on my own, instead of spending any money on it they just went back too using the lan cable on that pc.
I went back to Windows 7 after Windows 10 mysteriously turned all my Telemetry settings to Full after an update. Currently using the Simplix Updatepack to keep it protected.
@Fearful Harmony registry hacks work in there just fine, and unlike Windows 10, Windows 7 does not forcefully turn things on after the monthly "security" update.
@Fearful Harmony bwahahhahah ignorance at its finest, what an idiot, "downgraded" what downgraded exactly, nothing, windows 7 is better, all that windows 10 has is "compatibility"
I still daily Windows 7 systems. It's all no nonsense, no bloatware, no spying, and very user friendly. I can give a Win7 computer to anyone new or old and they feel comfortable to get anything done.
Yeah I am honestly happy I can't upgrade to 11 (I honestly call it a downgrade because it's worse than 7 and 10 even vista is better) because my pc doesn't have the necessary things to upgrade to it.
@@pacthesir I agree totally!!!!! And because of that when they stop supporting 10 i will A: switch to Linux probably Linux mint B: Switch to 7 I know it's risky because Microsoft don't support it with updates anymore
Having a Control Panel shortcut on your taskbar is essential in Windows 10 & 11. You can Pin Sound, Network and any other settings that are obfuscated in the 'settings' menu.
I set up a Windows 7 VM for fun. I was surprised, I even freeze mentally for a few seconds when I saw that it was possible to open Windows Update and customization at the same time. Multiple Control Panel windows. Seems so futuristic since Windows 10 & 11 settings who are single instance.
What I love about 11 is that everyone, including Microsoft itself, claims that Windows 11 is “touch-focused”. I don’t know for Microsoft, but afaik, making elements bigger on a desktop interface doesn’t mean it is touch-focused, it just means that - it’s a desktop interface with bigger elements, not a touch-focused interface. There’s stuff like: you don’t have a gesture to close apps (you need to click a little button to just close or minimise - Android, iPadOS, Windows 8/10 all do have), you don’t have gestures for file browsing and even going back in apps (iPadOS and Android do have the back gesture, while iPadOS/8/Android all do have gestures and touch focused stuff in their file browser - 11 has none of that), you can’t even put all the apps in full screen like, yk, on a tablet by default (iPadOS, Android, Windows 8/10 all do have), and doesn’t have all the gestures that follow your finger (iPadOS, Android, Windows 8 all do have). For a “touch-focused” OS, it’s ridiculous that so many “touch-focused” stuff are missing.
The thing I really despise about Windows 11 is, when I open the Start Menu and start typing, because let's say I want to open some random program installed on the machine, it takes AGES (and sometimes I have to search twice or three times) until anything shows up. Even Windows 10 was not that slow in comparison, and in Windows 7 (and IIRC also in Windows 8.1) they pretty much showed up instantly. But for some inexplicable reason, I want to search on the internet from the start menu apparently (guess what, I don't). Also, I found myself often times directly pressing Windows-R and control.exe to not have to deal with the mess that is the Windows Settings app.
I would LOVE to use Windows 7 again. I don't think anything is really stopping me, but the lack of DX12 and apps dropping support makes me not want to. Granted I'm an on and off Linux user, just so people won't jump on me to try it, but I have specific hardware that makes using it a little annoying (I recently had to drop it because all of my UVC based capture cards stopped working, and wasn't even stable on fresh installs of multiple distros, but on Win10/11 it worked flawlessly)
If Windows 7 had DX12 and if certain programs worked on it, I'd still use Windows 7 as well. Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't want people using stable software anymore.
I'm still using 2 machines with Windows 7. No issues. MS keep forgetting that these are only OSs. They are supposed to lay on the bottom and just link the other software and the hardware. With all the shitshow that has been the last versions and collection private info...I will be using 7 for a looong time.
I agree. Windows 7 was so much better than what we have today. I loved Aero Glass and the cohesive UI/UX. I am on Windows 10 right now and both machines have OpenShell with the Windows 7 Start Menu, Orb, and I applied the Windows 7 texture to the Taskbar with transparency turned on. I also installed WinAero Tweeker that allowed me to bring back the old Control Panel Personalization screens, the old Volume level changer in the Taskbar, as well as some other things that makes Windows 10 look and act better.
If anything, this shows that UX/UI design as a profession is an absolute joke. Windows 7 was probably designed by developers for the most part as it released in 2009. In the 2020's, you would expect big tech to have a UX/UI department that actually knows they are not designing a mobile app, but a desktop operating system... Anyway, thanks for this great showcase Logan.
I can pretty much guarantee that the UI wasn't designed by developers back then. However things have changed as we've gotten more device types with more input modalities (touchscreens). A simpler flat UI that also works on more types of devices is much much _much_ cheaper to make and maintain than different and more complex ones. Also the philosophy these days, since computers have become so ubiquitous, is to make UIs simple enough that your great grandma with dementia can use them because you don't want to exclude people from these ubiquitous devices. Mostly the money thing though I'm sure. Either way it has ruined computers.
Windows XP had a UI and UX team. There were some people advising on UI design in 2000/Me. The last time the developers made design decisions would have been Windows 95. And even then they had artists for the icons and such. The main issue isn't that they don't have teams for this stuff now. It's that they're more worried about their pronouns and what colour skin people have than how well the UX works.
@@tin2001 _"It's that they're more worried about their pronouns and what colour skin people have than how well the UX works."_ Sure thing, buddy. Whatever helps you sleep at night. These things have nothing to do with any of that.
You can't just declare an entire profession is a joke just because one specific product was "probably" designed by developers (hint: it wasn't, Microsoft had UI/UX teams as early as Windows XP). Blame the specific team or department leadership for poor direction, not an entire career field.
Your not the only one who misses windows 7… I love Windows 10 (more specifically the new updated version, Windows 10 Home) but I miss Windows 7, it’s a shame support for it will gone soon…
I feel your pain man! Miss the old classic setup in win 7 and earlier. Haha so many steps in 10. Old Windows used to feel more personal made for desktop.
I think what's weird for me is that I clearly don't mind change - I switched from Windows to Linux for my desktop OS of choice a couple years ago, and while there was an adjustment period, I've not had any desire to switch back permanently. I can't really put my finger on it, but when I use Windows I don't feel like I own the OS, I feel like I'm being "allowed" to use it with a catch, and that catch is that Microsoft ultimately gets to choose what my options are, what data I'm sharing with them, and how my PERSONAL computer operating system runs. I realize Windows has options for "disabling telemetry", but I've learned that those options don't do much, especially once I locked my system down behind a strict firewall and realize how much Windows scrambles to CONSTANTLY talk to Microsoft. Looking at my firewall logs was a real eye opener, as some core Windows utilities will SPAM the network in an attempt to find Microsoft servers that it can reach, and I do mean it's _CONSTANT_, as in 10+ attempts per second, every second, every minute, every hour, every day, etc.... I still dual-boot Windows, but I only use Windows when I need it to play a video game that doesn't work under Linux - usually due to the game devs CHOOSING to not allow EasyAntiCheat to work with Linux clients, and yes it's a choice as Linux support is literally just an "opt-in" option for EasyAntiCheat. I feel fundamentally dirty anytime I need to use Windows on my personal home computers, and Wine/Steam Proton have come so far that I can play _almost_ any game under Linux without issue. Even Microsoft's cloud infrastructure if built almost entirely off the back of Linux, which to me speaks volumes, as they have their own Server operating systems if they really just wanted to use those, and yet they don't... Which is just another problem because I can't trust a company that won't "eat its own dog food", so to speak.
The design philosophy from W8 moving forward is a classic example of how absolutely removed from reality Microsoft's advertising, management and executives are from the rest of their business. The engineers and programmers at Microsoft time and time again create absolutely fantastic operating systems and programs that get absolutely butchered by the UX team under the direction of the previously aforementioned departments. The revamped scheduler and linux subsystem are two small example of things the Win11 got right. Even the integration between Android and 'Your Phone' has become quite good. As always Microsoft always seems to be ahead of the game but lacks the vision and proper direction to execute on great ideas.
I agree that 7 is peak Windows, and I agree that 10's (and, to a lesser extent, 11's) UI is an inconsistent mess in comparison. When you were looking for Network and Sharing Centre, for example, the reason it's difficult to find is because it is not meant to be accessed by regular users - it has been superseded by the Network section of the Settings app (which is meant to be simpler for the lay user - or what you describe as "bubbly"). I, like many Windows power users, prefer the Control Panel, but unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't. :(
People, after 30 years of Microsoft's drive to make Windows irrelevant, I finally got into Linux, and I have to tell you that Linux has things that us (former) MS fanboys could only wish we had, and system administration (for those with experience) is just refreshing! I even have an instance of Windows 7 Pro 64-bit running on a KVM installed on Ubuntu, running on a MacBook Pro, with a full office install at (what feels like) Spend a week with some of the new themable distros, like TwisterOS or Ubuntu Mate, which can be themed with "Win 7-Like" desktop features (including "aeroglass" styled translucency), and you'll immediately find a lightning-fast interface, and none of the Microsoft-induced nightmare scenarios we are becoming so used to. Bye Microsoft! Can't wait until you fail, go out of business, and let actual innovation commence, because I just learned how to do everything I did before, without you and your anti-customer tactics! 'Til forever!...
I agree completely! It’s incredibly bloated with running processes and the user interface requires you to dig under multi menus of crap to get to what you want. It’s a devolution instead of an improvement!
Actually I'm still using Windows 7 right now. Also, I still XP and Vista as well. Believe me. I have already tried Windows 8, 8.1, 10, and 11. And I don't care for either one of those! Windows XP, Vista, 7 were the best!
Still using Windows 7 as I'm using an older PC. And actually I switched just 4 years ago after having used XP for 17 years. Though some things were better in XP, I overall feel comfortable with 7, however only after replacing Segoe with Tahoma. Windows 10 was a nightmare to me. I only installed it once or maybe twice, and even during the installation process I felt like being at a therapy session with those "Lean back, relax, let us take care of everything" type of messages. And when I had to choose whether I wanted Windows 10 to send only the necessary or also optional data to MS, I was like.... umm... NONE?! Oh well, I guess it's a good thing that I'm no longer interested in modern stuff, so that I can still use Windows 7 for a few more years.
There is something very "floaty/frivoulous" about the Win 10 UI. Installed it a few days back, used, navigated and tried to understand its 'navigation style', fucking hated how they made changes just for the sake of it, went back and installed Win 7.
We all agree we hit a UI peak design in every OS whether it was windows 7 or iOS or HTC's Android but then this minimalist bullshit ruined it all for ever and it's not even any faster.
There is a problem with this video. Hardware acceleration was not enabled on the Windows 7 machine, so the hardware-accelerated Aero interface was not enabled. You will need to install the latest graphics drivers on the Windows 7 machine so that Windows 7 can be shown off properly in this video.
Tek Syndicate : Windows 7 had NUMEROUS PLUSES compared to Win 10 : - It was the FASTEST OS ever created by MS (the highest efficiency of the hardware = how much resources needed for the fastest possible output of the GPU/CPU) - it was 100 % an OFFLINE OS. It always worked with the oldest GPU/MOTHERBOARD drivers no matter where one was with the updates - it blue screen very very rarely (usually the fault of memory errors or HDD errors) - it was capable of DX 12 API (proof is that the emulators for DX12 only games work with Mantle API=Vulcan API passthrough) - they were the most stable OS ever MS created - it doesn't force you with hybernation image for startup/reebot/shut down - simple and fast but yet modern UI
I was using an old Win 7 license from all the way back at university on my MSI laptop from 2014. It was beautiful, simplistic and did everything I wanted. Last year I decided to replace the keyboard, battery and cooling fan on it and upgraded the old HDD to 2 1TB SSDs, one in a dummy optical drive replacing the real one that had been broken for years and one in the original HDD slot. I opted for MX Linux instead of upgrading to Win 10 and after an adjustment period I couldn't be happier. Runs a LOT faster without all the clutter too. This laptop will likely remain in use until it literally falls apart.
Straight to the point, lighter weight, no nagging and actually designed for desktop computing. 7 still rules, if modern applications kept supporting it, I'd never switch.
windows 7 laptops had a very long lifespan that I am grateful of because microsoft allowed free upgrades to windows 10. They are also powerful enough to do anything for the average user. imo the best era of laptops
@@r.a.6459 if you bought a win 7 laptop from 2010 with i5 cpu and you upgraded it with an ssd, it’s possible to use it for basic tasks all the way until 2027 after windows 10 gets discontinued and programs stop supporting it. That would give it a possible lifespan of over 17 years. In the even more extreme case, you can use a core 2 duo laptop from 2007, which would give it a lifespan of 20 years. And even then you could give it windows 11 unsupported.
Don't miss a thing as I'm still running WIN 7........without problem one. Fast, responsive and bug free. No crashes, hacks or freezes. Won't change anytime soon. This is 12 years and couldn't be happier.
@@lindenreaper8683 Sorry. Don't know. Run Firefox browser, Google search, and malwarebytes security. On HP Probook with Intel i5 and 8G ram.Although Firefox said they will soon end support. I might be trying Chrome soon. Will let you know. My pc is from 2015.
I think that more advanced users like us would use control panel to find all the things you are looking for vs using the new layers in w10/11, but yeah, 7 was quick and out of your way.
The same Control Panel menu exists in both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It is no harder to get to verse Windows 7, so this argument makes little sense. You can even show the icon on the Desktop in Windows 10/11 just like Windows 7.
I just put a shortcut to the old Control Panel into win 10 Start Menu. It's the fastest way to get to all of the settings. Didn't know you could just show it as a Desktop icon. Never found a setting for that.
@@jowdyboy In every version of Windows at this point there's multiple ways of performing most function with some instances of commands and/or shortcuts going back to the 95 edition.
The biggest reasons why I'm planning on switching to Linux when I finally get the cash together to build a new rig is how much autonomy Microsoft has taken away since Windows 7, along with all the bloat and telemetry that automatically turns itself back on with every update. Combine that with updates potentially bricking hardware and forced updates and I am now a Linux newbie; Microsoft will never have hardware access to my system ever again.
Some differences you showed probably depend on customizing and W7 also has some obscure, buried settings. I also only tolerate W7 UI with ClassicShell running. (Aero off, because Aero removes the ability to define file explorer background color and such. Sadly tearing in browser videos then.) I have Kubuntu Linux running, only tolerating it because the most crucial Windows-style element is finally available: a personal firewall. But it really frustrates me that W7 is being declared outdated now, because other crucial elements are still missing from Linux, with no hopeful signs that they might come: mouse curve optionally like in Windows! So important! Also stuff like drag-and-drop for the start menu, a file manager that actually offers functionality like in Windows and not just falsely claims it, quicker directory listing behavior, some other minor usability clumsiness resolved, and as the big one, much more administrative functionality having GUI support. Can't even make/remove a swapfile without tedious terminal hackery. - Oh and making custom mouse cursors is comedy-level insanity of complicated.
I'm running a Win7 machine, with all the safety measures that can still be had, even if ***hole MS took away support. Really I don't have to feel nostalgic. I get to witness this slick OS in action every day. I can still do everything I want, and so long as there's a browser that will support it, I'll keep with it.
This is literally how I responded to it. So refreshing and funny to see you acting the same way! The worst one for me currently is getting to sound settings in win 11. That and the copy/paste button being at the top or bottom when you right click depending on if your mouse is above or below the vertical halfway point of your monitor :S
I can't remember the last time I used a start menu, but I do agree that finding settings is a joke with W11. The other thing I don't like about Windows 11 is the changes to right click. Did we really need to remove rename, and make it an icon?
Windows 7 was not as private as most people remembered. It actually had telemetry on it around 2015. It also had too many updates that took forever to finish.
Both those issues are now mitigated by using a third-party update program such as Simplix UpdatePack 7, which condenses the update process and omits telemetry updates completely.
I have Win 10 on a laptop because it came with it, but I have Win 7 Pro on 3 desktops and another laptop. I also have XP Pto on a desktop to run older programs. I know what works for me and 7 does.
I personally think it was kind of up and down from there. As we all know, vista was a dumpster fire really until 7 came out, then imo windows was great again. Then we got tablet ui madness and now whatever you even want to call 10/11
I loved the UI, really liked the Aero Taskbar, how easier it was to access audio, video, display settings. I really miss the media player and most of all I miss the MSN live messenger, Skype was okay at best but doesn't compare to MSN. One thing I didn't enjoy was the Windows Live Games system, always prefered to install Steam
@@Safetytrousers not really. I use multiple sound devices, and in 10, I just click on the sound icon and switch in one click. In 11, it forces me to open the settings and do it from there. It's just clunky. It doesn't even have a "always show all icons on the taskbar" option. You have to enable them one by one. 11 in general feels like a step backwards in many ways. I also hate the start menu.
@@Safetytrousers doesn't fix the taskbar issues. Also, why pay for an inferior experience? I'll wait until they update 11 into something I don't have to pay to fix before switching. It's basically the new windows 8.
From what I see, Microsoft was trying to please everybody. They wanted to add something new and still retain the older customers and at the same time trying to hide the older ways of doing things making things inconsistent.
Microsoft couldn't care less about pleasing anybody. You have effectively zero other options to run your pc if you don't want Windows, because how many people are willing to learn Linux to escape the corporate control altogether? The only other viable option is Apple, and as a company they aren't any better than Microsoft based on all the stories I've been hearing. No, Big Tech has a vision for the future, and they intend to take us there whether we like it or not.
The constence is actually getting better over time as more setting move in to the new settings app, of course people used to the old way will just complain about them removing or hding the old settings becosue they don't care about constance they want it their way and their way only.
I hate to say, I'm running Windows 7 on a ten year old, Lenovo laptop, does everything I need it to, no touch screen and that's good... My nephew has touch screen and his monitor looks like a petri dish... I did upgrade to a 21" all in one running Windows 10 home and it had a meltdown just two weeks after it was out of warranty. (mad face). So still with my sow but reliable 15" Lenovo...
I'm still running windows 7 on my custom build that I put together 9 years ago... And I keep 20-30 chrome tabs open while using a media player and play PC games at the same time... Sometimes all this even while running an older Photoshop, I can't believe how well it still handles multi tasking and does what I need it to do. Good thing cause I can't afford an updated machine I don't quite need lol
Still on Windows 7, works perfectly fine folks, anyone with a decent brain can make it work safely enough, it's not going away any time soon, it will be the last OS from Microsoft i will use.
No need to miss Windows 7, It didn't go anywhere. It still works fine, just be smart, use an up to date browser and use an anti-virus. Same goes for XP, and yes, there are still up to date browsers and andi-virus for both.
Now that I think about it, I not only miss Windows 7 for it's aero theme but how the original control panel was present, how updates never broke things, how simple things were, and not having too much bloatware like Windows 8 onwards. Even I wholeheartedly think Windows 11 still isn't as good as Windows 7 although in my opinion the UI looks slightly better than 10's like 8/8.1s. Windows 11 uses TPM and Secure boot meaning that it probably won't run on many pcs, Windows 10 is basic as can be and hinders privacy, and 8/8.1 had no real start menu aside from the start screen. Remember now, y'all including me may miss Windows 7 even more for these reasons.
If you want the W7 feel back, you switch to Linux and use the KDE desktop environment. You'll definitely feel like you're using windows 7. You can even set the theme to be that of windows 7 so it looks just like it. However, I will say it's probably comparable to early W7. Like 3 months in, not SP1. Early windows 7 lacked some polish, and you'll notice that with nearly all linux disros including ones where you can use KDE.
I'm still running Windows 7 in 2022. I got my key through my college back in 2016 as they provided free OS keys once every 2 semesters. 7 & 10 were the 2 options so the choice was clear for me lol. I know Windows 10 is much better now but I just prefer 7.
Windows Media Player is still buried in Windows 10, but you have to make a registry edit to bring it out. There is a Windows Media Player for W11, but you have to manually download it from the Microsoft Store and it's not as good as the old version.
i suggest you should install virtualization tools that comes with your hypervisor if you're running it off of a vm, like vmware tools. that will give your VM a bit of a hardware acceleration that will enable window effects like desktop transparency
What I hate about Windows 7 is the small start menu that you have to scroll. Come on! I have a 1920x1080 screen. I want the old expandable start menu with folders that I organize. Another think I hate about the explorer is you can't right click on white spaces to do the old copy paste file, because there are no white spaces and automatically organize the files. In the XP new files go to the end of the list so you know where there are the new files.
I fully agree that 7 was the last best one they made. 10 Feels like an OS on top of an OS and 11 feels like an OS on an OS on an OS.
Windows 11 is the matryoshka doll of operating systems
They're getting very lazy and everyone knows it...
I like how the words "the last best one" were used. It made me think of my experience with windows. To sum it up....I started with a Win 95 machine with a 100MB hard drive. That thing was $2000. Winamp was awesome!!! Then Win 98 came. This is great!! Win 98SE. WTF is this?? Win 2000 Cool! Win ME. WTF is this?? Win XP. This is the best one!!! Win Vista. WTF is this?? Win 7. Its not XP...but your good. Win 8. WTF is this? Win 8.1 and his homie Bing. WTF is this 2...the sequel. Win 10. Who are you anymore? I thought we was cool? Why I gotta use hacking tools to uninstall normal stuff? I had to run a script to be able to choose when antivirus is on or not. I can't uninstall cortana. Its like some chick living in my PC thats always there...in the room...just looking at you not saying a word. Just dormant...don't give no head. Your not fooling me Microsoft. You say Internet Explorer is over. If it looks like an Internet Explorer...and sounds like an Internet Explorer...and uses Bing like an Internet Explorer...I'm just saying...Someone is faking their death. CoughEdgeCough
@@wsv8818 Older versions of ltsc like 2015 were very debloated and were way faster than main Windows 10, the newer ltsc though is bloated
8.1 was pretty decent its downfall was the ui
I still haven't forgotten how they claimed for a time that Windows 10 would be the "final" OS and that they'd largely just update the same system infinitely, I'm so done with claims like that.
It's literally impossible to maintain software forever. Think of it like a house of cards; there comes a point where it becomes too difficult to manage and build upon it, and you will inevitably have to start all over. I immediately called bs on M$ when they made that claim. Wasn't due to a lack of trust, but that it has never been done before, and software developers argue all the time regarding which design decisions are simplest, secure, and most future-proof.
@@immortalnub Absolutely a good point, I wondered if maybe they would in essence make an updated OS with a similar interface/feel and just still call it Windows 10, but we know how it really went down.
It just baffled me that they made that claim in the first place.
@@immortalnub they could just rewrite the whole os and still call it windows 10, and push it as an "update" rather than an "upgrade".
11 feels like just a tablet skin of 10,
because it is
@@epicnicity916 But then it wouldn't be windows 10 anymore. You would have a completely new os. Trying to pass it off as an update would cause win 10 computers to break.
Win 7 hasn't aged poorly as well. If they still made drivers for Win 7 for modern hardware, I bet many of us would go back. Microsoft keeps reinventing the wheel for no reason
The reason is to make money
Bet you when there can't reinvent the wheel anymore, The final OS will become a subscription service to get updates and other tacky junk, or things what we had acess before will become exclusive features to the subscription service.
@@GrimmDragon203so literally what they've been talking about for the next one.
man its to the point where i run my own win10 iso (blank, debloated with CTT and nexus lite toolkit) with all the win7 theme tweaks like Aero7 for Windowblinds11, windows 7 mouse cursors and sound packs, and the win7 icons via 7tsp 🤣. I mean i could very much just reinstall win7 onto my machine but given the lack of driver support and security updates (besides the one the dropped at the end of 2023 i think), it wouldnt be convenient for everyday use. honestly shouldve just ended with 7 and kept updating it. the aero still holds up as well lmaoooo
@@linardskinard8199 This will never happen, but I'd guess that if MS dusted off W7, added in modern drivers and support, and sold it for $300+ a copy, they would make billions in worldwide sales. With all of the nostalgia games coming out, I'm kind of surprised they haven't done this.
I remember installing Windows 7 and actually being excited to try a new version of Windows. Never felt that way again.
I always more fond of my old XP machine at the time due to how archaic it felt in contrast, but regardless I remember thinking of Windows 7 as the future of computing at that time. Once they switched their inventory out for Windows 8, it felt as if it was propelled towards a downward projectory ever since; especially with all the leftover UI reminiscent of Vista & 7 that still remains.
“A start menu, how quaint” summarizes the entire experience
its incredible to see how much nicer and aesthetically pleasing win7 ui, icons and images were. all neatly organised and uncluttered and quicker to access and so on and so on. win10 and win11 somehow screwed all this up, like how does that happen? do they not do focus testing? like do they just test this stuff themselves and just hope the public will like it. billions and billions of dollars and they cant get some basics right. what a joke.
millennials. that's what happened.
I've concluded that Win7 was the last Microsoft OS where the primary goal WAS user satisfaction and ease of use. With 10 and 11, the paradigm has changed, simple as that. Now the driving force is the money they make from advertising/promoting within the OS and of course mining user data. Hence THEY KNOW it's an inferior UI - it's not a lack of focus testing - but the goal is now making it TOLERABLE for the average person to use while maximizing those back-channel streams of income. I know for a fact that there were developers who left Microsoft, outraged over the course the company took with Windows 10.
What you describe in your first two sentences, apply as is more upon XP and earlier. 7 was already too cluttered, unneat, unorganized, slow-access, and so so on on. But yeah otherwise agree completely, and 7 looks now really nice compared to its exponentially worse successors.
Do you Remember what windows 8 and 8.1 were like?
@@komocakeps527 What the fuck are you talking about?
People just call me an "old boomer that can't get with the times"... I'm only 27 but I've finally some sanity. Windows 7 was the last desktop OS by Microsoft, as you said in the video. Now more than ever I have seen people tweaking their OS or even creating custom ISO's to disable or remove half the cr*p, or go to the old context menus.
My old school had Windows 7 PCs until 2019. I miss 7 so much
8.1 is good too, you can fix it with a single program, 10 and 11 are a struggle to fix
Calling someone a boomer for liking an older iteration of whatever is just a garbage take. Makes me think of that episode of HIMYM where Barney argues that newer is always better, and Ted asks him if new Guns N' Roses are better than old GNR.
newer does not equal better, regardless of time something a few years back can be better than something new
Imagine calling someone a boomer because you prefer time tested and reliable things over the latest and greatest. 🤣
I miss the simplicity so much. A part of me wonders if they want to "hide" customization as much as possible, to always have our experiences tailored to what they want us doing, and not what we want to be doing.
That's exactly the idea.
They are slowly slipping the cuff on and building a cage around us all and this is just one aspect of their evil plans
The Window7 release was genuinely exciting ... It was a huge change, and felt like a real update ...
This days it all feels like cosmetic changes, and insertion of ever more spyware into the OS itself.
Windows 7 is technically Vista Service Pack 3 and Windows 7 SP1 is technically Vista SP4 because of the similar UI and major quality-of-life improvements compared to Vista.
So the last good version of Windows is technically a bugfix update to an OS that is regarded as a bad Windows release.
He means Windows 8.1
He means Windows 8.1
Here in 2022 I still love using my Windows 7 professional version. I pretty much only use it for everyday things and live chats on RUclips but that's all I need, it's simple & unsophisticated but I like that!
It's definitely not unsophisticated - W10 and 11 are. Although 7 was already less sophisticated than XP which was last good release having true improvements over precedessors. I will never be using any later Windows than 7.
@@TheSimoc_"I will never be using any later Windows than 7."_ Please note that Windows 7 doesn't receive any security updates any longer. I recommend not using that system for anything critical, like banking, shopping or other security sensitive activities. Even gaming may get worse, since Nvidia/AMD don't provide driver updates for EOL OS's, afaik.
@@riseandshinemrfriman5925 Don't worry, that security update hysteria and fearmonger marketing never stops amusing me. Yeah, it is true Windows 7 doesn't receive security updates anymore. Nor does Windows XP and 98 I still use in a few of my machines. Nor does either of my cars, model years '87 and '88, nor my house built in '63 - all of which have way more severe security vulnerabilities in comparison to new cars and houses than any old OS will ever have in comparison to anything.
If there really was such vulnerabilities that really, in reality, without updates would account into such a suicidal situation as the fearmongering marketeers want to make them sound like, then using any of those now-old OSes would have been pure suicide to use in first place, since very beginning, throughout all these years or decades, as well as the using of the newest OS today, without the yet-to-be-published important security update of the next month.
Don't get me wrong. I am not against security. I like real security. I use firewalls, I have disabled unnecessary and vulnerable Windows services and features, I have set up limited-privilege user profiles for daily use, I use common sense and I like to familiarize thoroughly with how the systems I use initiate connections with other parties.
The last one is the overwhelmingly most important point of security and also overwhelmingly underrated among the hysteria-buying people. The newer systems tend to be actually way more vulnerable especially for average users, because they have drastically more complicated and scrambled UIs to surf throughout all the security-impacting settings, and they also tend to have a lot of "deep integration", where even a savvy user has a real challenge to really stay on the map about which profile of which online service and which application program are linked into each other, what data is being shared and shown, etc.
So yeah, I actually love real security, but I just don't buy the unfounded hysteria wanting us to think that if we are missing the latest updates, any hacker could just grab our computers through the lines. No, it is not that easy. It practically always requires actual negligent user action to really expose the computer for the hackers. If it was that easy, there would be no markets for those Indian tech support scammers who actually need to give quite a lot of user action instructions for victims to make their exploits work.
Furthermore, banking and other most critical uses are secured with multi-factor authentication, which makes it quite impossible to do any exploits by any OS vulnerability, especially when one part of authentication is done by the paper one-time-use number list.
You are right though that everything gets harder as software (including hardware drivers) support is being dropped, sadly mostly for sake of dropping. For that, along with a few other reasons, I am slowly but surely migrating into Linux. However, I still have a long time to use Windows 7 and even earlier, as most software I need does already exist as old enough versions to run on them, and I am not at all into modern games anyway - games contemporary to old OSes are much better.
Have to add yet a couple of more points:
The code bloat has become horrible since times Windows XP. About the vulnerability bugs, the bloat is the #1 driver for such, since the more amount of code, the more outsourced libraries, frameworks, and automated code generation tools are used, the more attack vectors are involved, and the less overall knowledge about the inner workings of the end product any individual developer knows, thus exponentially increasing the risk of unnoticed severe mistakes, and actually this even severely enables single malicious actors to infiltrate malicious code within the official development process.
Older, simpler, and more efficiently and professionally coded software is way easier to get secured, both on development process, patching, and even by user actions, than today's bloatware.
And to add an insult to injury, all those most hysteric people buying all the fearmongering marketing, don't much give a shit about any real security issues. They are sharing all about their personal lives on social media, and using and carrying their contactless payment cards all around, not giving a thought about the fact that their card number and expiry date are readable as plain text with any generic NFC reader hidden in a pocket, sleeve, or glove of a passer-by, who can then use that data to pay orders from Amazon. No rocket science involved, and almost a guaranteed way for the thief to get something, on the victim's loss. Exact opposite to the case of using Windows 7 or XP, with practical impossibility for the hacker to even gain access as long as common sense from the legitimate user is obeyed, and even if some kind of access is gained, it has took quite a skill and bother from the intruder, to hardly still get anything advantageous to steal. At least not any money from a bank account, it will be stopped by the paper-card authentication at least, if the hacker somehow managed through everything else.
@@TheSimoc This is why you learn RE / Assembly and start brewing your own patches!
I still love Windows 7 because of its simplicity to use, Aero Glass UI etc.
Windows 7 will always be more beautiful than 10 and 11 ever will be.
None of this "UWP" and 2 settings panel bullshit existed in Windows 7, and it was so much more responsive than 10 and 11.
I personally miss the windows classic theme and being able to change startup sounds and other windows sound effects to custom ones.
you still can
Windows 11 doesn't have an option to change to a W10 desktop (a change to W7 desktop would be good) without editing the registry.
You can still do that.
7 is the LAST great thing to EVER come from Redmond. I feel 8 began the decline in quality and it’s gotten worse with 10 and onwards. The Aero theme in 7 was lovely and colorable. Shame it wasn’t showcased here.
I find myself using Linux more these days. Using a DE like Cinnamon gives me the old feelings when the Desktop UI just made sense.
Yeah, I use Cinnamon for the same reason. It just feels familiar and friendly from the first time I used it.
@@bobpeters61 It's a great DE, A bit underrated in my opinion!
@Potatoh Apple is fine, It can be a bit fussy with apps from "unverified sources" but it's a fair OS. I used it and it's fine. If you have an iPhone, iMessage is seriously handy.
Gaming is nearly non-existent on macOS though. I think it was Catalina onwards that killed 32-bit support. A good OS for productivity and other media.
Cinnamon is fantastic, it's so good and reliable while remaining very familiar. I started Linux using KDE Plasma but I ran into numerous huge issues that I simply can't recommend that for a new user, Cinnamon on the other hand fits the bill perfectly imo.
@@InfernalMonsoon Cinnamon seems like a great DE. I've been using KDE and haven't had any real problems with it. I know it's janky on Manjaro but elsewhere it's been good.
I wish Cinnamon would get some more love though. It's pretty underrated!
Windows 7 is a clean, robust and fast operating system. Windows 10/11 is an ad provider with spyware backend, turning the users into involuntary crowd testers.
I want a clean and secure operating system, that keeps me in control and doesn't close/update/crash/incompatiblirize my work all the time. So in terms of productive usage win 7 is the more secure choice.
Also its very useful to have Aero (native in Windows 7) active, so you can see through window borders. You can literally SEE what is behind a window, without the need to move it out of the way. So useful to see when something changes in the other window. Windows devolved so heavily...
I agree with you. By far, when it comes to driver installation, Windows 7 is a technician's best friend.
The glare is not what he was talking about when he said "aero glass."
Its impossible to use in VM's, But windows 7 and vista had OPTIONAL transparent window topbars that blurred and reflected anything behind them. It looked amazing and windows removed it for "performance" despite the fact it was ALWAYS OPTIONAL.
sadge 😢
@TodaylsTheDay Performance lmao. As if they even care about performance with their half hour searches and 40 minute folder deletions
It’s incredibly simple to render opacity since rendering is done in layers anyway
I kept Windows 7 until 10 came out cause 8 felt like such a ridiculous downgrade, and what's funny is the old stuff from 7 is still in 11 so why doesn't MS just give us the option to turn off all the middle-men bs layers for experienced users.
Microsoft is too dumb to understand that now.
Try Ghost spectre.
Because they want your data basically, that's my issues with 11. I paid for that thing and they still put ads on it, or move the menus somewhere hard to find for some reason. I spent some minutes navigating my way to change the IP setting, they put it on "advance" tabs somehow, sht like this grind my gear, common users dont use that setting, but some who deal with networking do and they had to made me do extra click on stuff that used to be easily accessed in win 7.
They put ads and bloatware on my fully paid OS. Take my data/metrics. And made it cumbersome to disable/enabling something.
Had i have the choice i would like to keep using windows 7
One of the most egregious regressions after 7 is the fact that you can't rename shortcuts you place in the sidebar of File Explorer. When you work in an actual company that does actual work, you have many different project folders that share the same subfolder structure with identical names. So when you create shortcuts to these subfolders, you need to be able to change the name, or you'll end up with a list of folders that all share the same name. I knew many people who were driven nuts by this and begged MS to change it back, but they never listened.
So is that a reason workplaces still use ancient software???
@@notacheesybiscuitThe ancient software probably performs much better than Windows 10-11. No need to create an account to open a pdf. Everyone was much more productive with Windows 7
Because windows 7 was ahead of time, it's my favorite operating system alongside windows xp. Nothing is better than aero theme, it's underrated as well as aero 3d flip (yes, it exists after I tested it while studying the keyboard shortcuts). It has never failed to impress me since my childhood due to charming ui, solid and stable performance. I first used it on my pc and then my dad's laptop which is now mine, I played lots of games without any major problems, watched videos and photos and so on. The apps are user-friendly and no bloatware there, I'm still using it today. No need to ask me to upgrade to windows 10 due to specs limitations. I also don't feel like moving to linux for some reasons, I don't want to give up on various games since the majority support windows only.
Edit 1: I lost count on how many times I have changed the operating system on my laptop but currently, I'm using windows 8.1.
Edit 2: I dual booted my laptop with windows 7 and 8.1
Thanks for reminding me of aero 3d flip!
still using win7 ultimate x64 i dual boot 7 is my main i only switch to 10 to play some games not supported on 7 then i reboot back to 7 😂
You technically still can play windows games on Linux trough some apps like wine and lutris and some people somehow even made a reverse engineering of the iconic windows xp pinball game "space cadet" and it works just fine on my old laptop. But I can understand why you choose to remain on win 7 it just feels so good like somebody from Microsoft really comes with a good idea.
I still use Win 7 for those securom disc games and compatibility...
I use excel 2007
let's petition microsoft to bring back win7. who's with me?
I will keep using 7 for as long as possible, I really like it!
Just be careful with your info there is no protection!
@@donquixotedoflamingo5510 more likely to be hacked by 8/10/11
@@donquixotedoflamingo5510 You couldn't be more wrong with that statement, there is less protection from an OS perspective but there are other layers of protection that is still applicable and works well, especially with someone with a decent brain.
Wrong at what? Listen, All i'm saying is be careful with your info as there is no default protection and most people don't use their brains. Using Windows 7 WITHOUT PREPARATION OR CARE on the internet is asking to get exploited -- not IF but WHEN! Yes you have to apply some sort of protection yourself which is what i'm doing, install a good anti-virus, use updated browsers, don't go on weird websites etc etc...Saying you're more likely to be hacked by 10/11 is being clueless.
get Opatch its about 25 quid ish a year per system and they will patch it no probs, I'm staying on 7 pro x64 as prefer it, main system and both mine and dads laptop uses it, its great, 10 is ok, but 11 is diabolical
The thing I like the most about Windows 7 is that it was the last "true" Windows. It was an operating system, plain and simple. A clean platform to build your programs, games, and everything else on top of. These days Windows is littered with telemetry, spyware and so much pre-installed junk that even laptop manufacturers look like saints by comparison. I hung onto it for dear life until 2021 when I simply had to make the switch due to some of my newer games simply not running on Windows 7. The only alternative these days seems to be Linux. That is, if you don't mind spending hours trying to get your incompatible games to play nice with Wine. If I wasn't an avid gamer, I'd definitely have switched by now.
This ^ . It was a simple OS, which is exactly what I wanted. If I want other software, I'll install it.
I still use 7 to this day. I was almost forced to 10/11 or 8.1 because the drivers for my 3080 wouldn’t work on it until a few months ago. Yes, I know it’s outdated, yes I know it’s less secure and I’m probably an idiot for staying on it, but I absolutely love that sort of 3d skeuomorphic design and the aero glass. It still serves its purpose as a great os, with no preinstalled or background bloat that 10 and 11 have.
Same man... I got a Ryzen motherboard with a B550 chipset (which is the first AMD chipset to not officially support 7), and through fire and flames I eventually got 7 working on it. Haven't got a simple complaint, everything works very well, every device has drivers (although the processor doesn't show in device manager LOL) and all of my programs work. I even played 10-only games!
BTW, don't buy this "its not secure!!1" shit. All antiviruses still work even on XP, and at the kernel level Windows hasn't changed at all since Vista.
Don't believe the other hype about migrating. Most govt institutions still use 7 or older windows server for their core systems.
It's also Probably more secure since hackers will usually go for OS with more users since reward will likely be larger.
@@Emphasis213 Exactly. These are the same arguments I've made for Windows 7 in the past.
@@Milennium1902 > kernel level Windows hasn't changed at all since Vista.
deomnstrably false also the issue is not just the kernel but other compnents.
antivirus means jack shit nowadays.
Regarding security? Like how would using win7 affect you? I presume you aren't doing anything on the dark web and are only using normal websites and playing games so how would someone specifically choose you for an attack or smth idk?
I just reinstalled Windows 7 on an old PC that shipped with it, and I was shocked by how snappy it was compared to modern windows and that's on a sandy bridge processor and a low budget SSD. I've gotten so used to the random lag and delay of Windows 10 that I didn't realize how slow it is. Keep in mind I have a Ryzen 9 5950X, 64 GB of 3600 MHz ram, and a Samsung Evo 980 Pro, and an RTX 3080. On top of that, every single windows application has telemetry in it now and many of the old responsive applications are getting replaced with laggy unresponsive watered down UWP/WPF versions of the applications. It's really sad to see what the desktop windows experience has become. The only saving grace from Microsoft making Windows a nightmare is that it's put pressure on the Linux community to improve WINE and gaming support for Linux.
Window 7, is a very fast operating system.
Yeah Windows 11 is getting to be such a slow dog, that Linux is becoming a better alternative.
Windos 10 is great ect but its lagging , the os is just a bloatware and as for 11 ohh dont get me started with that one ..i uninstalled it two hours later after installation i cant deal with it ...its a useless os .. the hardware and performance of today is higher ND greater but slower OS 😢
I miss windows 7 so much, I have so many crazy lags on 10 and 11. My keyboard will just lag sometimes, apps like Chrome just lag like hell. This is on a very powerful system too and win 7 never did that to me unless i had a virus.
I dont. Still use it on 2023. Feels good man.
For me the acid test is, Windows 7 is the OS that I used the least amount of custom UI replacements.
My only change is using Open-Shell.
You can add MKV support to the OS and then the media centre and media player will handle them (my preference is the standalone filters from the Media Player Classic branches).
I'll be very interested to see your Win10 makeover and how much I missed. I have some of the hidden Win 7 UI components enabled and use the hidden lite theme which add window borders.
I absolutely love the UI on vista and 7. It looks timeless
And much better than win 10 and win 11
The only thing I do not miss about Windows 7 are some driver problems i've had, anything else was pretty much perfect for me
Technically that's not even a Win 7 issues is more on the hardware manufacturers to make working drivers.
Only had issues with a wireless pci nic that was out of an old oem pc & Couldnt find the right drivers for it on my own, instead of spending any money on it they just went back too using the lan cable on that pc.
thats mostly because of its age so its practically perfect!
@@Dr904 idk i have a pc that came with vista and i had it on 10 and xp aswell
7 was the best version for driver compatibility
I have problems on Windows 10 and my laptop came with Windows 10.
I went back to Windows 7 after Windows 10 mysteriously turned all my Telemetry settings to Full after an update.
Currently using the Simplix Updatepack to keep it protected.
lol okay.
@Fearful Harmony registry hacks work in there just fine, and unlike Windows 10, Windows 7 does not forcefully turn things on after the monthly "security" update.
@Fearful Harmony bwahahhahah ignorance at its finest, what an idiot, "downgraded" what downgraded exactly, nothing, windows 7 is better, all that windows 10 has is "compatibility"
I still daily Windows 7 systems. It's all no nonsense, no bloatware, no spying, and very user friendly. I can give a Win7 computer to anyone new or old and they feel comfortable to get anything done.
same, get Opatch to keep it updated
As much as I like windows 10, I still prefer windows 7, but Windows 10 is 100% better than windows 11...
Yeah I am honestly happy I can't upgrade to 11 (I honestly call it a downgrade because it's worse than 7 and 10 even vista is better) because my pc doesn't have the necessary things to upgrade to it.
@Samorutt1324 lol, I also call it a downgrade because it adds useless junk and removes actually usable features.
@@pacthesir I agree totally!!!!!
And because of that when they stop supporting 10 i will
A: switch to Linux probably Linux mint
B: Switch to 7 I know it's risky because Microsoft don't support it with updates anymore
I don't get it, why's everybody talking about Windows 7 in the past tense? It's still running fine as ever.
Having a Control Panel shortcut on your taskbar is essential in Windows 10 & 11. You can Pin Sound, Network and any other settings that are obfuscated in the 'settings' menu.
I set up a Windows 7 VM for fun. I was surprised, I even freeze mentally for a few seconds when I saw that it was possible to open Windows Update and customization at the same time. Multiple Control Panel windows.
Seems so futuristic since Windows 10 & 11 settings who are single instance.
Thank UWP applications.
Who's dumb idea was that?
What I love about 11 is that everyone, including Microsoft itself, claims that Windows 11 is “touch-focused”. I don’t know for Microsoft, but afaik, making elements bigger on a desktop interface doesn’t mean it is touch-focused, it just means that - it’s a desktop interface with bigger elements, not a touch-focused interface.
There’s stuff like: you don’t have a gesture to close apps (you need to click a little button to just close or minimise - Android, iPadOS, Windows 8/10 all do have), you don’t have gestures for file browsing and even going back in apps (iPadOS and Android do have the back gesture, while iPadOS/8/Android all do have gestures and touch focused stuff in their file browser - 11 has none of that), you can’t even put all the apps in full screen like, yk, on a tablet by default (iPadOS, Android, Windows 8/10 all do have), and doesn’t have all the gestures that follow your finger (iPadOS, Android, Windows 8 all do have). For a “touch-focused” OS, it’s ridiculous that so many “touch-focused” stuff are missing.
Windows 11 is UI nightmare.
The thing I really despise about Windows 11 is, when I open the Start Menu and start typing, because let's say I want to open some random program installed on the machine, it takes AGES (and sometimes I have to search twice or three times) until anything shows up. Even Windows 10 was not that slow in comparison, and in Windows 7 (and IIRC also in Windows 8.1) they pretty much showed up instantly. But for some inexplicable reason, I want to search on the internet from the start menu apparently (guess what, I don't).
Also, I found myself often times directly pressing Windows-R and control.exe to not have to deal with the mess that is the Windows Settings app.
The Window settings app really highlights just how disorganized Microsoft is right now.
kind of funny how things seem to moving backwards instead of forwards with windows lol
Even if Microsoft brings back 7, it won't be actual 7. It'll be remade in the labs with more backdoor action than Pornhub.
I would LOVE to use Windows 7 again. I don't think anything is really stopping me, but the lack of DX12 and apps dropping support makes me not want to. Granted I'm an on and off Linux user, just so people won't jump on me to try it, but I have specific hardware that makes using it a little annoying (I recently had to drop it because all of my UVC based capture cards stopped working, and wasn't even stable on fresh installs of multiple distros, but on Win10/11 it worked flawlessly)
If Windows 7 had DX12 and if certain programs worked on it, I'd still use Windows 7 as well.
Unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't want people using stable software anymore.
We are still using Win 7. We never had a problem with it.
I'm still using 2 machines with Windows 7. No issues. MS keep forgetting that these are only OSs. They are supposed to lay on the bottom and just link the other software and the hardware. With all the shitshow that has been the last versions and collection private info...I will be using 7 for a looong time.
yeah good luck.
Thanks.
I agree. Windows 7 was so much better than what we have today. I loved Aero Glass and the cohesive UI/UX. I am on Windows 10 right now and both machines have OpenShell with the Windows 7 Start Menu, Orb, and I applied the Windows 7 texture to the Taskbar with transparency turned on.
I also installed WinAero Tweeker that allowed me to bring back the old Control Panel Personalization screens, the old Volume level changer in the Taskbar, as well as some other things that makes Windows 10 look and act better.
If you want a full 7 theme with Aero transparency, WindowBlinds is the way to go. Sadly it's paid, but it has a 30 day trial.
Why should we miss it? It still holds up great. I'll continue using it as long, as I can
I had to move on from windows 7
@@LovelySkyFan u dont have to
@@serily4524 i need updates?
@@LovelySkyFan Opatch do updates
@@vikingsmb anti virus might not support
If anything, this shows that UX/UI design as a profession is an absolute joke. Windows 7 was probably designed by developers for the most part as it released in 2009. In the 2020's, you would expect big tech to have a UX/UI department that actually knows they are not designing a mobile app, but a desktop operating system... Anyway, thanks for this great showcase Logan.
as a ux designer, this just shows that microsoft's ux team is an absolute joke. most developer-designed stuff is about as bad as this
I can pretty much guarantee that the UI wasn't designed by developers back then. However things have changed as we've gotten more device types with more input modalities (touchscreens). A simpler flat UI that also works on more types of devices is much much _much_ cheaper to make and maintain than different and more complex ones. Also the philosophy these days, since computers have become so ubiquitous, is to make UIs simple enough that your great grandma with dementia can use them because you don't want to exclude people from these ubiquitous devices. Mostly the money thing though I'm sure. Either way it has ruined computers.
Windows XP had a UI and UX team. There were some people advising on UI design in 2000/Me. The last time the developers made design decisions would have been Windows 95. And even then they had artists for the icons and such.
The main issue isn't that they don't have teams for this stuff now. It's that they're more worried about their pronouns and what colour skin people have than how well the UX works.
@@tin2001 _"It's that they're more worried about their pronouns and what colour skin people have than how well the UX works."_ Sure thing, buddy. Whatever helps you sleep at night. These things have nothing to do with any of that.
You can't just declare an entire profession is a joke just because one specific product was "probably" designed by developers (hint: it wasn't, Microsoft had UI/UX teams as early as Windows XP). Blame the specific team or department leadership for poor direction, not an entire career field.
Your not the only one who misses windows 7…
I love Windows 10 (more specifically the new updated version, Windows 10 Home) but I miss Windows 7, it’s a shame support for it will gone soon…
Another great feature for 7 was dragging anything from start when you search. Any control panel options too. Can't do it in 11.
Windows has felt disconnected ever since 7. The settings mismatch make it feel like every design decision is an afterthought.
I feel your pain man! Miss the old classic setup in win 7 and earlier. Haha so many steps in 10. Old Windows used to feel more personal made for desktop.
windows 7 was the last microsoft OS that'll allow you to easily disable updates so the darned thing doesn't reboot on you
I miss when Windows 7 was the most popular
I still use Windows 7 on my office laptop, a ThinkPad T520. You can still get most modern apps to work, but you have to find workarounds.
It was clean, and it worked well. Windows 8 which looked like a 1980's arcade was so bad that it was the primary reason I moved to macOS.
I was kind of hopeful for windows 11, but after actually trying it and not wanting to use Linux, I too bought a mac
@Yvng remixer LOL, that's an interesting argument, I'm sure anyone using a mac will re-consider.
@Jadon S. Windows 8 and windows 7 were the best OS in my opinion. Snappy and clean looking. I still use windows 8 to this day!.
I think what's weird for me is that I clearly don't mind change - I switched from Windows to Linux for my desktop OS of choice a couple years ago, and while there was an adjustment period, I've not had any desire to switch back permanently.
I can't really put my finger on it, but when I use Windows I don't feel like I own the OS, I feel like I'm being "allowed" to use it with a catch, and that catch is that Microsoft ultimately gets to choose what my options are, what data I'm sharing with them, and how my PERSONAL computer operating system runs. I realize Windows has options for "disabling telemetry", but I've learned that those options don't do much, especially once I locked my system down behind a strict firewall and realize how much Windows scrambles to CONSTANTLY talk to Microsoft. Looking at my firewall logs was a real eye opener, as some core Windows utilities will SPAM the network in an attempt to find Microsoft servers that it can reach, and I do mean it's _CONSTANT_, as in 10+ attempts per second, every second, every minute, every hour, every day, etc....
I still dual-boot Windows, but I only use Windows when I need it to play a video game that doesn't work under Linux - usually due to the game devs CHOOSING to not allow EasyAntiCheat to work with Linux clients, and yes it's a choice as Linux support is literally just an "opt-in" option for EasyAntiCheat. I feel fundamentally dirty anytime I need to use Windows on my personal home computers, and Wine/Steam Proton have come so far that I can play _almost_ any game under Linux without issue.
Even Microsoft's cloud infrastructure if built almost entirely off the back of Linux, which to me speaks volumes, as they have their own Server operating systems if they really just wanted to use those, and yet they don't... Which is just another problem because I can't trust a company that won't "eat its own dog food", so to speak.
The design philosophy from W8 moving forward is a classic example of how absolutely removed from reality Microsoft's advertising, management and executives are from the rest of their business. The engineers and programmers at Microsoft time and time again create absolutely fantastic operating systems and programs that get absolutely butchered by the UX team under the direction of the previously aforementioned departments.
The revamped scheduler and linux subsystem are two small example of things the Win11 got right. Even the integration between Android and 'Your Phone' has become quite good. As always Microsoft always seems to be ahead of the game but lacks the vision and proper direction to execute on great ideas.
I agree that 7 is peak Windows, and I agree that 10's (and, to a lesser extent, 11's) UI is an inconsistent mess in comparison. When you were looking for Network and Sharing Centre, for example, the reason it's difficult to find is because it is not meant to be accessed by regular users - it has been superseded by the Network section of the Settings app (which is meant to be simpler for the lay user - or what you describe as "bubbly"). I, like many Windows power users, prefer the Control Panel, but unfortunately, Microsoft doesn't. :(
What?! I still use 7. I never left it! So I don’t miss it!
People, after 30 years of Microsoft's drive to make Windows irrelevant, I finally got into Linux, and I have to tell you that Linux has things that us (former) MS fanboys could only wish we had, and system administration (for those with experience) is just refreshing!
I even have an instance of Windows 7 Pro 64-bit running on a KVM installed on Ubuntu, running on a MacBook Pro, with a full office install at (what feels like)
Spend a week with some of the new themable distros, like TwisterOS or Ubuntu Mate, which can be themed with "Win 7-Like" desktop features (including "aeroglass" styled translucency), and you'll immediately find a lightning-fast interface, and none of the Microsoft-induced nightmare scenarios we are becoming so used to.
Bye Microsoft! Can't wait until you fail, go out of business, and let actual innovation commence, because I just learned how to do everything I did before, without you and your anti-customer tactics! 'Til forever!...
windows XP / 7 actually had Soul in its UI
When I switched to Linux with KDE as my desktop environment, it brought back a lot of Windows 7 nostalgia. Microsoft... why...?
I agree completely! It’s incredibly bloated with running processes and the user interface requires you to dig under multi menus of crap to get to what you want. It’s a devolution instead of an improvement!
Having to click "Show more options..." after right-clicking is so infuriating 😠 in Windows 11
Actually I'm still using Windows 7 right now. Also, I still XP and Vista as well. Believe me. I have already tried Windows 8, 8.1, 10, and 11. And I don't care for either one of those! Windows XP, Vista, 7 were the best!
Windows 7 is the prettiest of all the Windows OS's. The glass theme is something I wish they couldve kept in windows 10.
Still using Windows 7 as I'm using an older PC. And actually I switched just 4 years ago after having used XP for 17 years. Though some things were better in XP, I overall feel comfortable with 7, however only after replacing Segoe with Tahoma.
Windows 10 was a nightmare to me. I only installed it once or maybe twice, and even during the installation process I felt like being at a therapy session with those "Lean back, relax, let us take care of everything" type of messages. And when I had to choose whether I wanted Windows 10 to send only the necessary or also optional data to MS, I was like.... umm... NONE?! Oh well, I guess it's a good thing that I'm no longer interested in modern stuff, so that I can still use Windows 7 for a few more years.
There is something very "floaty/frivoulous" about the Win 10 UI.
Installed it a few days back, used, navigated and tried to understand its 'navigation style', fucking hated how they made changes just for the sake of it, went back and installed Win 7.
We all agree we hit a UI peak design in every OS whether it was windows 7 or iOS or HTC's Android but then this minimalist bullshit ruined it all for ever and it's not even any faster.
Windows 7 was good but I miss Windows XP most of all.
There is a problem with this video. Hardware acceleration was not enabled on the Windows 7 machine, so the hardware-accelerated Aero interface was not enabled. You will need to install the latest graphics drivers on the Windows 7 machine so that Windows 7 can be shown off properly in this video.
windows 7 was the last os to feel like it was meant for an actual pc.
Windows 7 = beautiful user interface.
Is not the only os to have that but yes i agree windows 7 is pretty
Tek Syndicate : Windows 7 had NUMEROUS PLUSES compared to Win 10 :
- It was the FASTEST OS ever created by MS (the highest efficiency of the hardware = how much resources needed for the fastest possible output of the GPU/CPU)
- it was 100 % an OFFLINE OS. It always worked with the oldest GPU/MOTHERBOARD drivers no matter where one was with the updates
- it blue screen very very rarely (usually the fault of memory errors or HDD errors)
- it was capable of DX 12 API (proof is that the emulators for DX12 only games work with Mantle API=Vulcan API passthrough)
- they were the most stable OS ever MS created
- it doesn't force you with hybernation image for startup/reebot/shut down
- simple and fast but yet modern UI
no updates like 10 and 11
I'm watching this video on a machine running Windows 7, I'm not missing it yet. 😃
I was using an old Win 7 license from all the way back at university on my MSI laptop from 2014. It was beautiful, simplistic and did everything I wanted.
Last year I decided to replace the keyboard, battery and cooling fan on it and upgraded the old HDD to 2 1TB SSDs, one in a dummy optical drive replacing the real one that had been broken for years and one in the original HDD slot.
I opted for MX Linux instead of upgrading to Win 10 and after an adjustment period I couldn't be happier. Runs a LOT faster without all the clutter too. This laptop will likely remain in use until it literally falls apart.
Straight to the point, lighter weight, no nagging and actually designed for desktop computing. 7 still rules, if modern applications kept supporting it, I'd never switch.
windows 7 laptops had a very long lifespan that I am grateful of because microsoft allowed free upgrades to windows 10. They are also powerful enough to do anything for the average user. imo the best era of laptops
I have mine from 2011. Just got a new SSD for it with 7 installed.
@@r.a.6459 if you bought a win 7 laptop from 2010 with i5 cpu and you upgraded it with an ssd, it’s possible to use it for basic tasks all the way until 2027 after windows 10 gets discontinued and programs stop supporting it. That would give it a possible lifespan of over 17 years. In the even more extreme case, you can use a core 2 duo laptop from 2007, which would give it a lifespan of 20 years. And even then you could give it windows 11 unsupported.
Don't miss a thing as I'm still running WIN 7........without problem one. Fast, responsive and bug free. No crashes, hacks or freezes. Won't change anytime soon. This is 12 years and couldn't be happier.
@@lindenreaper8683 Sorry. Don't know. Run Firefox browser, Google search, and malwarebytes security. On HP Probook with Intel i5 and 8G ram.Although Firefox said they will soon end support. I might be trying Chrome soon. Will let you know. My pc is from 2015.
I think that more advanced users like us would use control panel to find all the things you are looking for vs using the new layers in w10/11, but yeah, 7 was quick and out of your way.
The same Control Panel menu exists in both Windows 10 and Windows 11. It is no harder to get to verse Windows 7, so this argument makes little sense.
You can even show the icon on the Desktop in Windows 10/11 just like Windows 7.
@@jowdyboy yes but they've destroyed it by forcing people to only use the settings page for some areas
I just put a shortcut to the old Control Panel into win 10 Start Menu. It's the fastest way to get to all of the settings. Didn't know you could just show it as a Desktop icon. Never found a setting for that.
@@jowdyboy In every version of Windows at this point there's multiple ways of performing most function with some instances of commands and/or shortcuts going back to the 95 edition.
The biggest reasons why I'm planning on switching to Linux when I finally get the cash together to build a new rig is how much autonomy Microsoft has taken away since Windows 7, along with all the bloat and telemetry that automatically turns itself back on with every update. Combine that with updates potentially bricking hardware and forced updates and I am now a Linux newbie; Microsoft will never have hardware access to my system ever again.
Man am I glad I still run Windows 7
Me too.
Some differences you showed probably depend on customizing and W7 also has some obscure, buried settings.
I also only tolerate W7 UI with ClassicShell running. (Aero off, because Aero removes the ability to define file explorer background color and such. Sadly tearing in browser videos then.)
I have Kubuntu Linux running, only tolerating it because the most crucial Windows-style element is finally available: a personal firewall. But it really frustrates me that W7 is being declared outdated now, because other crucial elements are still missing from Linux, with no hopeful signs that they might come: mouse curve optionally like in Windows! So important! Also stuff like drag-and-drop for the start menu, a file manager that actually offers functionality like in Windows and not just falsely claims it, quicker directory listing behavior, some other minor usability clumsiness resolved, and as the big one, much more administrative functionality having GUI support. Can't even make/remove a swapfile without tedious terminal hackery. - Oh and making custom mouse cursors is comedy-level insanity of complicated.
I'm running a Win7 machine, with all the safety measures that can still be had, even if ***hole MS took away support.
Really I don't have to feel nostalgic. I get to witness this slick OS in action every day.
I can still do everything I want, and so long as there's a browser that will support it, I'll keep with it.
This is literally how I responded to it. So refreshing and funny to see you acting the same way! The worst one for me currently is getting to sound settings in win 11. That and the copy/paste button being at the top or bottom when you right click depending on if your mouse is above or below the vertical halfway point of your monitor :S
I can't remember the last time I used a start menu, but I do agree that finding settings is a joke with W11.
The other thing I don't like about Windows 11 is the changes to right click. Did we really need to remove rename, and make it an icon?
It’s the taskbar for me, everything is in the middle
@@sparx8802 same. 95% of what I use is in the taskbar. For anything else, I use the window key and type.
@@sparx8802 you can change it to left alignment in the taskbar settings
Windows Vista revolutionized Windows after XP, but it was too ahead of its time. Windows 7 made sure to keep up with its legacy.
Windows 7 was not as private as most people remembered. It actually had telemetry on it around 2015. It also had too many updates that took forever to finish.
Both those issues are now mitigated by using a third-party update program such as Simplix UpdatePack 7, which condenses the update process and omits telemetry updates completely.
I have Win 10 on a laptop because it came with it, but I have Win 7 Pro on 3 desktops and another laptop. I also have XP Pto on a desktop to run older programs. I know what works for me and 7 does.
The world peaked at Windows XP, everything was downhill from there
It true.
I personally think it was kind of up and down from there. As we all know, vista was a dumpster fire really until 7 came out, then imo windows was great again. Then we got tablet ui madness and now whatever you even want to call 10/11
I'm just saying that all of the flaws in the world today started happening sometime after the release of Windows vista.
Nah, 7 wins because the search bar was so convenient. Somehow the search bar got worse in every release since 7.
Nope, peaked at 7.
I loved the UI, really liked the Aero Taskbar, how easier it was to access audio, video, display settings. I really miss the media player and most of all I miss the MSN live messenger, Skype was okay at best but doesn't compare to MSN. One thing I didn't enjoy was the Windows Live Games system, always prefered to install Steam
My biggest problem with 11 is the taskbar. It's so clunky compared to 10.
You can make it exactly like Windows 10 in about 30 seconds.
@@Safetytrousers not really. I use multiple sound devices, and in 10, I just click on the sound icon and switch in one click. In 11, it forces me to open the settings and do it from there. It's just clunky. It doesn't even have a "always show all icons on the taskbar" option. You have to enable them one by one.
11 in general feels like a step backwards in many ways. I also hate the start menu.
@@Droogie128 Startisback is very cheap. Put old sound settings on your desktop and that is one click.
@@Safetytrousers doesn't fix the taskbar issues. Also, why pay for an inferior experience? I'll wait until they update 11 into something I don't have to pay to fix before switching. It's basically the new windows 8.
@@Droogie128 What taskbar issues do you have?
From what I see, Microsoft was trying to please everybody. They wanted to add something new and still retain the older customers and at the same time trying to hide the older ways of doing things making things inconsistent.
yeah but why make it difficult for all there customers, they know everybody's mighty pisst off
Microsoft couldn't care less about pleasing anybody. You have effectively zero other options to run your pc if you don't want Windows, because how many people are willing to learn Linux to escape the corporate control altogether? The only other viable option is Apple, and as a company they aren't any better than Microsoft based on all the stories I've been hearing.
No, Big Tech has a vision for the future, and they intend to take us there whether we like it or not.
The constence is actually getting better over time as more setting move in to the new settings app, of course people used to the old way will just complain about them removing or hding the old settings becosue they don't care about constance they want it their way and their way only.
I hate to say, I'm running Windows 7 on a ten year old, Lenovo laptop, does everything I need it to, no touch screen and that's good...
My nephew has touch screen and his monitor looks like a petri dish... I did upgrade to a 21" all in one running Windows 10 home and
it had a meltdown just two weeks after it was out of warranty. (mad face). So still with my sow but reliable 15" Lenovo...
I'm still running windows 7 on my custom build that I put together 9 years ago... And I keep 20-30 chrome tabs open while using a media player and play PC games at the same time... Sometimes all this even while running an older Photoshop, I can't believe how well it still handles multi tasking and does what I need it to do. Good thing cause I can't afford an updated machine I don't quite need lol
Still on Windows 7, works perfectly fine folks, anyone with a decent brain can make it work safely enough, it's not going away any time soon, it will be the last OS from Microsoft i will use.
Same here, bro.
Still running 7 here.
No need to miss Windows 7, It didn't go anywhere. It still works fine, just be smart, use an up to date browser and use an anti-virus. Same goes for XP, and yes, there are still up to date browsers and andi-virus for both.
I agree
Now that I think about it, I not only miss Windows 7 for it's aero theme but how the original control panel was present, how updates never broke things, how simple things were, and not having too much bloatware like Windows 8 onwards. Even I wholeheartedly think Windows 11 still isn't as good as Windows 7 although in my opinion the UI looks slightly better than 10's like 8/8.1s. Windows 11 uses TPM and Secure boot meaning that it probably won't run on many pcs, Windows 10 is basic as can be and hinders privacy, and 8/8.1 had no real start menu aside from the start screen. Remember now, y'all including me may miss Windows 7 even more for these reasons.
Still using 7, no plans to stop anytime soon.
same
Same with me. Has been using 7 since '11.
If you want the W7 feel back, you switch to Linux and use the KDE desktop environment. You'll definitely feel like you're using windows 7. You can even set the theme to be that of windows 7 so it looks just like it. However, I will say it's probably comparable to early W7. Like 3 months in, not SP1. Early windows 7 lacked some polish, and you'll notice that with nearly all linux disros including ones where you can use KDE.
I'm still running Windows 7 in 2022. I got my key through my college back in 2016 as they provided free OS keys once every 2 semesters. 7 & 10 were the 2 options so the choice was clear for me lol. I know Windows 10 is much better now but I just prefer 7.
Windows Media Player is still buried in Windows 10, but you have to make a registry edit to bring it out. There is a Windows Media Player for W11, but you have to manually download it from the Microsoft Store and it's not as good as the old version.
i suggest you should install virtualization tools that comes with your hypervisor if you're running it off of a vm, like vmware tools. that will give your VM a bit of a hardware acceleration that will enable window effects like desktop transparency
What I hate about Windows 7 is the small start menu that you have to scroll. Come on! I have a 1920x1080 screen. I want the old expandable start menu with folders that I organize.
Another think I hate about the explorer is you can't right click on white spaces to do the old copy paste file, because there are no white spaces and automatically organize the files. In the XP new files go to the end of the list so you know where there are the new files.