Small But MIGHTY - SmallRig Forevala W60 Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- SmallRig is continuing to broaden their product lineup into the audio field with the new Forevala W60 wireless mic kit. Is their first foray solid, or does it leave some room for growth? Let's put it to the test and find out! We'll be comparing it to the Saramonic Blink 500 Pro X, Hollyland Lark 150, Godox Movelink M2 Compact, and more!
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Super helpful Wes. Your reviews are always detailed & thoughtful. Buckets of gratitude. -BIG TED
Thanks Ted!
I like the way you review these mic kits. Have you reviewed the UHF type of kits, such as the Saramonic UwMic9, their UwMic9S, or UwMic9s Mini? Other than Saramonic and Comica, are there any other dual-channel UHF kits available?
I’ve reviewed several UHF mic kits. Comica, Godox, Movo, 7Ryms
The issue I have with all of them is the very poor noise floor. But they sure do a great job for range (the cheap 7Ryms can easily outdo any of the 2.4GHz models on the market today. Tho I Might need to test it directly against the Smallrig, as it was quite impressive.
I watch this video... I see that you have reviewed so many wireless mic... What is mic wireless that you recomend the most...
I have the Smallrig W60 and have found it very acceptable - except - the sender/mic shows the incoming sound through the mic is peaking into the red so, no matter how you adjust the receiver output, the sound is already distorted. Have you found away of reducing the sensitivity of the mic/sender? Thanks.
You noted the camera input gain of a high 16 with the forevalla latency 15 vs 2 to 5 on the hollyland lark 150 latency 5. Doesnt higher camera input gain introduce more noise ? Gary
Often but not necessarily. Depends on the impedance match of the two devices and how clean the signal is in the first place.
I tested a Saramonic Pro 500 kit (which they wouldn't let me release the vide for) and it had terrible impedance matching and was highly prone to interference on the line out side. Had a much louder output, but way worse noise most of the time regardless. I suspect the impedance wasn't properly matched on the input, allowing noise to come in ungrounded.
Hi Perry, how are you?
I have a huge doubt between the Smallrig Forevala W60, the Godox MoveLink M2 and the Comica Boom X-D Pro.
Usability and battery life I liked Smallrig, because it is compact and already comes with lapels, Godox is better, and Comica has the security of recording the audio backup internally and still with a -6dB range.
As for the audio quality, I couldn't identify which is the best (or least worst)
What is your suggestion?
Thanks.
Depends on your needs I suppose. But I easily prefer the Smallrig amongst those three. I don’t have the new comica in my hands yet, though. It’s in the mail 😏
Nice review! I just got my set, but it’s not pairing, and both Trx are labeled B. Is there setting that Changes one as A and other as B? Or did I get bad package? LOL
Sounds like they need to be paired again!
I would love to see a comparison with the rode offering, and how the usability is for both in terms of transferring files to a computer? please?
You have to install the Rode companion app to transfer files, and while I don’t have the Rode Go ii I’ve heard very mixed things about this experience. Currently reviewing a new 7Ryms wireless mic set and you just plug it in to any computer and files are just There like a thumb drive. Having to install an app is pretty silly.
The Smallrig doesn’t offer internal recording at all, though. So I guess that’s even worse? Haha.
@@WesPerry oh man, I am shopping for a good wireless mic system but even the DJI one seems like it has interference issues, so I'm confused what is the better option
Yeah, DJI seems to drop when you least expect it. The 7Ryms records internally, but reception sucks. The Smallrig seems to have the best 2.4Gig reception of any of them, but no internal recording.
@@WesPerry it's becoming a confusing market and companies seem to be releasing untested products that have issues
And I don’t see them rushing to acknowledge the issues or issue firmware updates
It’s always immediately on to the mark ii instead. (Godox movelink 2 just came out and it was such a short time ago that the first arrived!)
I'm new to these types of systems. Is the audio signal split in camera, each mic on its own channel? Thanks!
You can either run them both through both channels “mono” setting, or you can split one to left and one to right “stereo” setting.
@@WesPerry thanks.
If it only had internal recoding on the transmitters. But that price is competitive.
Yeah the price is a bit too competitive for that I would say. Perhaps in a version 2 eventually… or a “W60 Pro”, as everyone is tacking Pro onto everything these days 😂
@@WesPerry I would probably buy a SmallRig version that had internal recording. I like the concept/ease/speed of the dials rather than the button pushes of some other systems or finger swipes of the DJI. (Of course I say that never having used the DJI.) Maybe they should send you one to review next.
DJI doesn’t think I have enough followers to be worth dealing with 😂
Ridiculous.
@@WesPerryI bought the DJI mic and returned it within a few days. It’s apparently a known issue that using external lav mics creates electrical noise. I’ve been searching for something that meets or exceeds how convenient the physical design of that mic was, to no avail. Really hope they come out with a DJI mic 2 that fixes the issue.
Can you compare it with the sony ones?
Man those fell out of the spotlight fast. I forgot they even existed!
@@WesPerry its 2.4GHz vs UHF
Sony’s wireless mic (uwp-series) still have visuable antenna’s , who remembers those
Sounds like the noise floor might be to high
The low gain output is very problematic for me. (And would be for many). This relies on a lot of boost from whatever recorder it’s feeding into. If you’re using a camera body (as I did) this is going to introduce a fair amount of noise floor, as they’re simply not an isolated enough system to create a clean enough amplification. If you’re using a higher end dedicated recorder, I suspect this wouldn’t be as much of an issue at all.
I didn’t want to get too deep into the reeds on this, because I Don’t have such a high end recorder to compare to, but I found that Almost all of the noise in the recording was apparent regardless of whether or not the W60 was plugged into my camera. Which means most of it is coming from the camera itself being set to an input gain of 16 (instead of 2-5 as I do for the Lark 150).
But Most who use this kit will be going straight into the camera, so it’s a valid concern regardless of the source of noise.
@@WesPerry def an issue I mean I have a mix pre 3 but I don’t always use it. So far I’m thinking dji has the best to offer in these small wireless microphone units.
@@WeShootFilms I’ve heard a Lot of horror stories about the DJI having weird noise issues and random signal drops. I’m sure most of them are fine. Perhaps just bad QC.
More competition is good. Still think DJI Mic is the best.
I’ve had a lot of people tell me they sent it back due to random signal drops.
@@WesPerry Thanks for that! I think the next iteration would be good. We need more competition which will force them to bring creative ideas that will benefit us all in the end.
Presumably the next iteration will have the same wireless chip as the new Smallrig and godox kits.
But then again maybe not, since DJI rolls a lot of their own wireless for their drone transmission systems. So who knows. Very odd that they would have made something with such random glitches as such.
@@WesPerry There is a trend now of "samey" products coming from Chinese manufactures. You see companies that have nothing to do with lighting are now having great COB lights, then you see similar ones coming from another brand. Looks to me like big factories there just sell their chips like Sony selling image sensor to most of the famous camera companies/phones/etc.
I know they're budget friendly but they sound like there worth $100. haha