I'm blessed to have known David! A true and very dear friend! I'm watching today because I miss him so much and wanted to hear his voice again!❤ I'm grateful for this video and the others sharing his brilliant work! Thank you!
@Chasing History thanks chase! Any idea about hiw his book was coming along- I'd love to buy it even if it's an unfinished rough draft it would be awesome
@@farthing751David had so much information and didn't get to finish his book. I know he was working closely with Eastern Tennessee University to photograph his collection and I hope and believe they have his written research now. I wanted a copy as well!
yes, we apologize, this was one of our earlier episodes... we have learned a great deal since them. David is almost finished with his book and when it is published we will do another episode and will get plenty of close ups! Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this! thanks for your comment! we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called "Chasing History Radio" and is available where ever you listen to podcasts! Thanks for being apart of our community!
Thanks for the complement! David IS an East Tennessee Treasure!! and we are Very Grateful for the knowledge he has shared with us! he is still working on his book and when it is finished we are going to do another episode on east Tennessee point types (and do a better job to show you guys close ups) we have learned a lot about filming since we have made this episode! thanks for watching nd for sticking with us!! be sure to check out our other episodes & make sure you SUBSCRIBE so you wont miss out on future episodes coming out every few weeks. we ALSO have a weekly PODCAST.... "Chasing History Radio" that covers the same diverse history topics you see here! its available where ever you get your podcasts! Thanks for your comment and for being apart of our community!
at 19:50 you ask why they would make the same points and ground one base, and not another. As I understand, points can easily break at the base- especially while making the point. When they crack, its easily sharpened into the "ground base" type you find. People were able to fashion the apparatus either way, or there were different apparatuses that needed the ground base type.
Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this! thanks for your comment! we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called "Chasing History Radio" and is available where ever you listen to podcasts! Thanks for being apart of our community!
Awesome video. Look forward to getting Davids book when released. I have some of the Palmer types that I would love for him to see. I have yet to see anything like them.
thanks for the comment! he is almost finished with it and we will do another episode when it comes out!! Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this! thanks for your comment! we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called "Chasing History Radio" and is available where ever you listen to podcasts! Thanks for being apart of our community!
@Teresa... no no... WE are Grateful!! Corporal Kelly was so gracious for the shout out and we are Grateful for the rosponce from the Corporals Corner community for taking the time to check us out and for the support! you guys Rock! if you have a chance look around our channel we are a Discovery Documentary series where we take you into the field to meet the men and women who discover history! we show you how they discover the past and tell the stories of what they found ... from fossils to civil war relics... we also have a weekly History Podcast "Chasing History Radio" with 15min short episodes on Great Historical Topics recorded live on Sevierville Tennessee's local morning drive radio show. if you have any questions be sure to comment in any of the episodes you like and let us know! we hoe you will subscribe and join our community we have a lot of great stuff coming soon! Thanks for your time! we are very grateful!
It's been many years since I've hunted A.I. artifacts. I recently came across a fascinating lecture by Wilson "Dub" Crook on the origins of American peoples in general based on the stone tools that they made. I found it particularly interesting that the Clovis is no longer considered the oldest type, having found so many similar Solutrean types and many other far below the Clovis depth. It was also the first time I saw what I frequently suspected. A "broken" point might not be a broken point at all but a push scraper. I'd recommend that lecture to all serious relic hunters.
@steakfire Thank you for sharing that lecture, if you could provide a link in the comments we and i am sure others would appreciate it! now is the most interesting time to be studying the "Peopling of the Americas" the entire history of when and how humans entered the western hemisphere is completely up for grabs! it is incredible to be living in that moment in history where our knowledge of the past get to be reinterpreted! we hope to have an episode on our channel soon covering the topic! we hope you have subscribed to our channel and will share our little show with others interested in history! thanks!
@@ChasingHistory Here is the link to the lecture I mentioned. Clovis were not the oldest. ruclips.net/video/7nUZTRXVrac/видео.html Another making the same assessments based on new archeological finds. ruclips.net/video/9T2XhKtU0hA/видео.html Both have stories of stubborn archeologists of the past insisting the mystery of the first peoples was solved with no need to investigate further. New evidence shows they were not correct. Also important is relic hunters may be in possession of artifacts 1000's of years older than they suspect, especially for ones who are digging and sifting their relics.
Ive always thought that identifying points has never been cut and dry. Saying a certain point came from a certain time period just isn't that simple. Ive always been an outdoorsman and a hunter, and have always thought that any number of variables are no doubt involved in the manufacture of points by the user, as I would prefer a certain caliber bullet from another. Although hunting gear has definately changed over the years, hunters and the hunter mind, in its basic roots, haven't changed that much. It's all about personal preference... Personally, my opinion is that a certain "Indian" would've made points according to what material they had on hand, the type of flaking preferred, the shape and weight of the point, the type of animal hunted, amount of time willing to spend in manufacture, the art of napping passed down from generation to generation and different "nuances" added or taken away from each generation, the personal value of the points, amount of pride each person had in the craft, and lastly, the amount of trade between tribes. I find an assortment of points here in WV that are mostly made of Kanawha Black, but have found others made from materials located outside of WV. Which in my opinion, a lot more trade went on in those days than we tend to think. Thank you for the informative videos...and the enthusiasm behind them.
Kalenn Nemoto I agree with you 100%, especially with all the point specific pre-forms. like throwback Thursday, when they play only 80's music, points come back in style sometimes
I think points definitely had overlapping characteristics but what I think about is how drastically different the "oldest" points are to the more modern types. No other mechanical advances in history show this delineation from the awesome complex craftsmanship of clovis to the more modern small simple almost crude at times. Maybe a cataclysm shifted us towards smaller game and harder times....
I don't know if you're familiar with the Cody Complex or the Dalton Tradition but both are clusters of varying types.. I'm sure that you're on the money with individual preferences playing a part but to add to that, I believe we would likely be surprised by how some points were actually used.. So some variants found in the same strata as other variants might have had different uses from one another.. Some as projectile points and others maybe used to process the kill etc.. Even though there may be a consensus among archaeologists based on characteristics of a point, it's still speculation. Lithic study can tell us a lot, but usage is somewhat of a mystery.
Would like to know if certain types were used for certain jobs. One type especially for big game, one type for small game, one type for war etc. Guess we won’t ever know.
their was certain types that were used for certain purposes like tools for cutting plants vs meat.... or knives instead of projectile points. but the vast differences that you see is due to the technology changing over time and not for specific use. the bow is only 2,000 years old in north America so most of what we call "arrowheads" were never on an arrow.. most were simple knives and some were used on Atl-Atl darts. hope this helps and be sure to check out the episodes we just dropped on Prehistoric moundbuilding cultures!
Would it be trade or migration that brought a point into a certain location. Also, strata's are some what good but a lot of ancient points can be found on the surface or in other strata's and vice versa.
I understand stratification and type of points, but is there any research in type of point and the fauna it was shaped to hunt. Example: contemporary fishing lures. Contemporary hunting points.
Chase Pipes here, mist Archaeologist agree that Projectile Points we're universal in the game they brought down. Archaeologically speaking, there is very little Evidence to give us a better understanding of your question, because few points have been found in the animals they brought down. common sense will leave to the conclusion that Prehistoric Cultures were smart enough to have different projectile for different game, & that those types evolved as hunting practices were advanced, point types change through the ages.... but the question is what you asked, are those changes an improvement on making a more efficient killing weapon, or just a change in fassion?..... sadly there is no answer for that... yet.... and the debate continues, hopefully of Enough sights are preserved & Archaeological technique improves we will have an answer. that is a Very Good Question!... thanks for asking!... Chase!...
Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this! thanks for your comment! we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called "Chasing History Radio" and is available where ever you listen to podcasts! Thanks for being apart of our community!
Wished you could have zoomed in on the artifacts. I felt like i would have learned more with just a little bit of video editing. This is a good video but it could have been great.
Agreed!! we filmed this episode before we had the ability of editing & really before we knew what we were doing. we ARE Planning a Follow-up episode about this topic with David Dean once his book is published. (should be published end of this year) we plan on getting into GREAT Detail with LOTS of Close Up Shot of everything!! we apologize and hope that you got some good information out of the episode! make sure to subscribe to our Channel "Chasing History" get notifications when that video comes out! we also have other GREAT Episodes on East Tennessee Prehistoric Native American History on our RUclips Channel! so go check out those episodes! we also have a weekly podcast "Chasing History Radio" Available where ever you get your podcasts! Thanks for Being Apart of our community!
@michaelgrenell ...... As of Jan 2021 David is still working on his book. however is almost finished. the project got expanded with help from archaeological students at East Tennessee State University & some health issues delayed the project but once the book is finished we will announce it on all of our social media platforms, so be sure to follow Chasing History and the Smoky Mountain Relic Room Social Media. we will also do a New Episode with David and have LOTS of close ups on the points and go into GREAT Detail about everything. we are much better filmmakers now then we were when we filmed this episode and are capable of telling a MUCH better story! so stay tuned and we will keep you and everyone posted on the progress! thanks for your comment! we are grateful you shared your thoughts with us! we hope that you will continue to do so on future episodes we love to know what everyone is thinking and to have feedback! if you enjoyed this episode and want to help us out please share on your social media, it helps our algorithmic overlords know that we exist! haha we also have a weekly podcast "Chasing History Radio" that has some of the great diverse content you see on our channel here! its available where ever you get your podcasts. we also have a brick and mortar and online store. just google Smoky Mountain Relic Room and you will find us! thanks for your comment and for being apart of our community!
In my opinion quality knapping material was as "global" as gummi worms are today. Maybe not intercontinental, but certainly intra-continental. Knappable material was far more essential to life as a cell phone is to most people today.
David has had some health problems & has been unable to finish his book, but he is still working on it. it will be available at our store and online at our website when published. our business is the Smoky Mountain Relic Room www.therelicroom.com keep tuned to our social media and we will be promoting it when it is published. and we will be doing another episode (better quality episode) with david again when it gets published. so be sure to subscribe. we have some interviews with david on our podcast "Chasing History Radio" available where ever you get your podcasts... thanks for the comment and for being apart of our community.
@mightymite ..... we are Very Sorry!! this episode was made severial years ago before we knew anything about filmmaking and had the ability to edit in close up shots! this channel started with a cellphone camera and has evolved into a team of filmmakers, camera crew and editors. but we still have a long way to go! once David gets his book finished we plan on producing a new episode with PLENTY of close up shots! ..... we don't have a time frame for when it will be finished, he has had health problems... but will keep everyone informed, you can subscribe to our channel, or follow the Smoky Mountain Relic Room and Chasing History social media for updates! thanks for your comment! we are grateful you shared your thoughts with us! we hope that you will continue to do so on future episodes we love to know what everyone is thinking and to have feedback! if you enjoyed this episode and want to help us out please share on your social media, it helps our algorithmic overlords know that we exist! haha we also have a weekly podcast "Chasing History Radio" that has some of the great diverse content you see on our channel here! its available where ever you get your podcasts. we also have a brick and mortar and online store. just google Smoky Mountain Relic Room and you will find us! thanks for your comment and for being apart of our community!
iam from east Tennessee and have hunted artifacts for 32 years i found a aritfact that i can't identify it. It resembles a granny stone but couldnt b. It looks like it could have been used as a pin or button. its stone 3in long 3/8in wide 1/2in tall and has 3 groves and a taper on 1 side to a point and flat on bottom and has been pecked and ground to very smooth surface. is their a way i can send Mr Dean a picture or take it to him. I live in Unicoi co. I also have 1 more that is shaped like a butterfly made of yellow stone also pecked and ground to a smooth finish the scratches are still visible. and another that is made of soap stone round 5in across 1in thick and a hole in the midle big enough to put a finger in
Ben Crain , Chase Pipes here, contact us through Email. relics@smkw.com include you saw our video, and send pictures & we will be happy to identify it for you. or if your ever in the Sevierville TN area , the Relic Room is located inside the Smoky Mountain Knife Works.... bring it buy & we will be happy to look at it for you!... thanks Chase Pipes
anyone out their needing help contact us at our store "Smoky Mountain Relic Room" you can google search or email "relics@smke.com" Thanks and remember to subscribe and share your favorite episodes!
anyone out their needing help contact us at our store "Smoky Mountain Relic Room" you can google search or email "relics@smke.com" Thanks and remember to subscribe and share your favorite episodes!
his book is not finished... David ran into very serous health problems... which had delayed the project. we are stepping in to try and help him finish the book. we think about a year as the soonest...
hahaha.... yeah Greg … mine too!.... this episode was done a few years ago when we were first starting out! we have greatly improved since then & understand the value of closeups! ……. once David is finished with his book we are going to have a follow-up episode about it …. and I promose….. PLENTY of Close ups!..... Thanks for the comment! we hoped never the less you enjoyed the episode! If you wouldn't mind please give us a like and subscribe to our channel, its Crazy how much it helps!...… We have a LOT more episodes uploaded since this one …. and NEW Episodes coming soon! We also have a NEW Podcast!!!...…. Chasing History Radio!!….. with over 50 episodes and counting Available where ever you get your podcasts! please check it out and Thanks for being apart of our community!
we have gotten far better at filmmaking since this episode!!… and once david is finished with his book we WILL have another episode and will have closeups of ALL the Points!!……thanks for the comment! We have a LOT more episodes uploaded since this one …. and NEW Episodes coming soon! We also have a NEW Podcast!!!...…. Chasing History Radio!!….. with over 50 episodes and counting Available where ever you get your podcasts! please check it out and Thanks for being apart of our community!
@robertmoon we talked to David Dean last week (April2020) david has completed other archaeological projects he was working on and is now doing nothing but finishing his book. hopefully it will be finished by the end of the year. when completed we will have copies for sale at our store in Seveirville Tennessee and will post information on this video when it will be available so stay tuned. here is our email if you wish to contact us further. relics@smkw.com Thanks for the comment! - If you enjoy podcasts please check out our Weekly Podcast "Chasing History Radio" available where ever you get your podcast! - if you enjoyed this episode Please help us spread the word by sharing this or your favorite episodes on your social media! Its Crazy how much that helps us get to the top of the feed! Thanks for the comment and for being apart of our community,
I have several Lamoka points with my woodlands. Also several paleo age mixed with my woodland age. I'm sure the woodland tribes were excited as us to find the paleo . Its sad that tallented flintnappers have ruined the value of authentic points.
yes, sadly great knappers but mostly greed had killed the collecting of prehistoric relics. its not the knappers fault, but the greedy people who age them. i know of one instance of woodland peoples collecting archaic relics... we discuss it in one of our Art Gerber episodes.. a ball of Archaic points discovered in a woodland mound... check that episode out to learn more about it? if you haven't already, hit that subscribe button, we come out with GREAT New content all the time, all history Related. be sure to check out our Podcast "Chasing History Radio" a Weekly show about the same diverse topics you see here on our channel. follow Smoky Mountain Relic Room on Facebook and Instagram for Exclusive Videos of Really Awesome Artifacts, fossils and minerals. (we are sharing a lot of really cool videos their! ) if you are ever up Sevierville Tennessee way stop in and check out our Store, Inside Smoky Mountain Knife Works! just google "Smoky Mountain Relic Room" Thanks for your comment, please keep commenting it helps our algorithmic overlords (haha) know that we exist, and to share our videos. we hope you will continue to be apart of our community!
as in previous comments, we apologized for that... this was one of our earlier episodes …. the quality of our show had increased & understand the importance of getting close so everyone can see up close what we are talking about!! Archaeologist Dean is almost finished with his book and when he is we will bring you a NEW Episode with him and get PLENTY of Close ups on Every Artifact!! Please like, Share this episode & subscribe to our channel if you deem us worthy! we always try to have fun & informative content! Check out our weekly Podcast, … "Chasing History Radio" where we talk about Everything that lies in the past.. from Fossil History to the Artifacts that have changed out lives, its a Fun and Diverse History show much like our RUclips Channel! Thanks for being apart of our community!
@@ChasingHistory Yes, sorry I should have deleted this...thanks. Btw, I found many rough stone tools/points while looking for arrowheads 2 days ago. Besides keeping for personal collection or donating, do you sell any of artifacts?
thats Awesome! thanks for your comment! we also have a Podcast.... Chasing History Radio .... that has a Great interview with Archaeologist Dean ... it is available where ever you get your podcast
This episode was made long before we had any ability to edit ... all we had was a camera and good and knowledgeable people to share what they know.... anyone can show you arrowheads... but few could actually TEACH you about them like the Late David Dean... were not here to show you how cool our arrowheads are .... but to teach you about them, there history and the people who once lived here. we apologize for our editing abilities... this was filmed Years ago.... we hope you will check out our more recent episodes.
Trust Jesus Christ the SON of GOD! Roman’s 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus , and shalt Believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead , thou Shalt be Saved . John 3:18 He that Believeth on Him is Not condemned: but he that Believeth Not on him is condemned already, because he hath Not Believed in the name of the Only Begotten Son of God
you realize that your just turning people away from Christianity by doing this... we respect all religions and everyone's right to worship as they see fit as laid out in the founding of the American republic. but when you do crap like this... it makes your religion look like its full of crazy people! .....as a Christian... we ask that you not do this on our channel
![BLACK BAG - Official Trailer [HD] - Only in Theaters March 14](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Du0Xp8WX_7I/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm blessed to have known David! A true and very dear friend! I'm watching today because I miss him so much and wanted to hear his voice again!❤ I'm grateful for this video and the others sharing his brilliant work! Thank you!
we were so grateful for davids knowledge and support! he really got us started here at chasing history! and we miss him too!
Rest in Peace David, thank you for sharing with us what you found all those years.
Thank you for that! we all miss David Deeply!
@Chasing History thanks chase! Any idea about hiw his book was coming along- I'd love to buy it even if it's an unfinished rough draft it would be awesome
@@farthing751David had so much information and didn't get to finish his book. I know he was working closely with Eastern Tennessee University to photograph his collection and I hope and believe they have his written research now. I wanted a copy as well!
I sure wish I could have seen a close up of those arrowheads
yes, we apologize, this was one of our earlier episodes... we have learned a great deal since them. David is almost finished with his book and when it is published we will do another episode and will get plenty of close ups!
Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this!
thanks for your comment!
we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called
"Chasing History Radio"
and is available where ever you listen to podcasts!
Thanks for being apart of our community!
David Dean is a East Tennessee Treasure! This is amazing! I've learned a lot from him. Love your channel!
Thanks for the complement! David IS an East Tennessee Treasure!! and we are Very Grateful for the knowledge he has shared with us! he is still working on his book and when it is finished we are going to do another episode on east Tennessee point types (and do a better job to show you guys close ups) we have learned a lot about filming since we have made this episode! thanks for watching nd for sticking with us!!
be sure to check out our other episodes & make sure you SUBSCRIBE so you wont miss out on future episodes coming out every few weeks.
we ALSO have a weekly PODCAST.... "Chasing History Radio"
that covers the same diverse history topics you see here! its available where ever you get your podcasts!
Thanks for your comment and for being apart of our community!
at 19:50 you ask why they would make the same points and ground one base, and not another. As I understand, points can easily break at the base- especially while making the point. When they crack, its easily sharpened into the "ground base" type you find. People were able to fashion the apparatus either way, or there were different apparatuses that needed the ground base type.
Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this!
thanks for your comment!
we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called
"Chasing History Radio"
and is available where ever you listen to podcasts!
Thanks for being apart of our community!
Awesome video. Look forward to getting Davids book when released. I have some of the Palmer types that I would love for him to see. I have yet to see anything like them.
thanks for the comment! he is almost finished with it and we will do another episode when it comes out!!
Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this!
thanks for your comment!
we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called
"Chasing History Radio"
and is available where ever you listen to podcasts!
Thanks for being apart of our community!
Corporal Kelly recommended your channel. I am grateful!
I love learning!
@Teresa... no no... WE are Grateful!! Corporal Kelly was so gracious for the shout out and we are Grateful for the rosponce from the Corporals Corner community for taking the time to check us out and for the support! you guys Rock! if you have a chance look around our channel we are a Discovery Documentary series where we take you into the field to meet the men and women who discover history! we show you how they discover the past and tell the stories of what they found ... from fossils to civil war relics... we also have a weekly History Podcast "Chasing History Radio" with 15min short episodes on Great Historical Topics recorded live on Sevierville Tennessee's local morning drive radio show. if you have any questions be sure to comment in any of the episodes you like and let us know! we hoe you will subscribe and join our community we have a lot of great stuff coming soon!
Thanks for your time! we are very grateful!
Really enjoy this helped me out alot !! Ty I got some in my collect!! ❤
Thank you for sharing! we hope you will check out our other episodes on Prehistoric North America!
Love the archaeologist uniform y’all are wearing. Lol.
haha..... thanks..... when you spend enough time in the field, you figure out what is practical for the dig site and for the office.... lol
It's been many years since I've hunted A.I. artifacts. I recently came across a fascinating lecture by Wilson "Dub" Crook on the origins of American peoples in general based on the stone tools that they made. I found it particularly interesting that the Clovis is no longer considered the oldest type, having found so many similar Solutrean types and many other far below the Clovis depth. It was also the first time I saw what I frequently suspected. A "broken" point might not be a broken point at all but a push scraper. I'd recommend that lecture to all serious relic hunters.
@steakfire Thank you for sharing that lecture, if you could provide a link in the comments we and i am sure others would appreciate it! now is the most interesting time to be studying the "Peopling of the Americas" the entire history of when and how humans entered the western hemisphere is completely up for grabs! it is incredible to be living in that moment in history where our knowledge of the past get to be reinterpreted! we hope to have an episode on our channel soon covering the topic! we hope you have subscribed to our channel and will share our little show with others interested in history! thanks!
@@ChasingHistory Here is the link to the lecture I mentioned. Clovis were not the oldest.
ruclips.net/video/7nUZTRXVrac/видео.html
Another making the same assessments based on new archeological finds.
ruclips.net/video/9T2XhKtU0hA/видео.html
Both have stories of stubborn archeologists of the past insisting the mystery of the first peoples was solved with no need to investigate further. New evidence shows they were not correct. Also important is relic hunters may be in possession of artifacts 1000's of years older than they suspect, especially for ones who are digging and sifting their relics.
Was he able to complete his book for he passed away? If so, where can it be purchased?
I saw previous comment about his book being unfinished, thanks.
Ive always thought that identifying points has never been cut and dry. Saying a certain point came from a certain time period just isn't that simple.
Ive always been an outdoorsman and a hunter, and have always thought that any number of variables are no doubt involved in the manufacture of points by the user, as I would prefer a certain caliber bullet from another.
Although hunting gear has definately changed over the years, hunters and the hunter mind, in its basic roots, haven't changed that much. It's all about personal preference...
Personally, my opinion is that a certain "Indian" would've made points according to what material they had on hand, the type of flaking preferred, the shape and weight of the point, the type of animal hunted, amount of time willing to spend in manufacture, the art of napping passed down from generation to generation and different "nuances" added or taken away from each generation, the personal value of the points, amount of pride each person had in the craft, and lastly, the amount of trade between tribes.
I find an assortment of points here in WV that are mostly made of Kanawha Black, but have found others made from materials located outside of WV. Which in my opinion, a lot more trade went on in those days than we tend to think.
Thank you for the informative videos...and the enthusiasm behind them.
Kalenn Nemoto I agree with you 100%, especially with all the point specific pre-forms. like throwback Thursday, when they play only 80's music, points come back in style sometimes
Agreed and just imagine being an archeologist in the future trying to explain why these ancient tools are found amongst our remains.
I think points definitely had overlapping characteristics but what I think about is how drastically different the "oldest" points are to the more modern types.
No other mechanical advances in history show this delineation from the awesome complex craftsmanship of clovis to the more modern small simple almost crude at times.
Maybe a cataclysm shifted us towards smaller game and harder times....
@@darrelllogan1274 I'm a collector and a flintknapper so I'm sure my site might cause some confusion to future archeologists
I don't know if you're familiar with the Cody Complex or the Dalton Tradition but both are clusters of varying types.. I'm sure that you're on the money with individual preferences playing a part but to add to that, I believe we would likely be surprised by how some points were actually used.. So some variants found in the same strata as other variants might have had different uses from one another.. Some as projectile points and others maybe used to process the kill etc..
Even though there may be a consensus among archaeologists based on characteristics of a point, it's still speculation. Lithic study can tell us a lot, but usage is somewhat of a mystery.
Would like to know if certain types were used for certain jobs. One type especially for big game, one type for small game, one type for war etc. Guess we won’t ever know.
their was certain types that were used for certain purposes like tools for cutting plants vs meat.... or knives instead of projectile points. but the vast differences that you see is due to the technology changing over time and not for specific use. the bow is only 2,000 years old in north America so most of what we call "arrowheads" were never on an arrow.. most were simple knives and some were used on Atl-Atl darts. hope this helps and be sure to check out the episodes we just dropped on Prehistoric moundbuilding cultures!
Would it be trade or migration that brought a point into a certain location. Also, strata's are some what good but a lot of ancient points can be found on the surface or in other strata's and vice versa.
thank you for sharing!
I understand stratification and type of points, but is there any research in type of point and the fauna it was shaped to hunt. Example: contemporary fishing lures. Contemporary hunting points.
Chase Pipes here, mist Archaeologist agree that Projectile Points we're universal in the game they brought down. Archaeologically speaking, there is very little Evidence to give us a better understanding of your question, because few points have been found in the animals they brought down. common sense will leave to the conclusion that Prehistoric Cultures were smart enough to have different projectile for different game, & that those types evolved as hunting practices were advanced, point types change through the ages.... but the question is what you asked, are those changes an improvement on making a more efficient killing weapon, or just a change in fassion?..... sadly there is no answer for that... yet.... and the debate continues, hopefully of Enough sights are preserved & Archaeological technique improves we will have an answer.
that is a Very Good Question!...
thanks for asking!...
Chase!...
Be sure you check out our new episodes! we have filmed a LOT of GREAT Stuff since this!
thanks for your comment!
we are also spreading the word that Chasing History now has a Podcast! "Chasing History Radio" its a weekly podcast we record Live on our local radio station and features the same great content as you can find here on our RUclips channel! we dive into all kinds of Great history topics as well as the fossil era, geology, meteorites and everything that lies in the past. we also feature interviews with Historians, Archaeologist, Geologist, Adventures, Dinosaur & Relic Hunters and take you into the field with the men and women who discover history. the podcast is called
"Chasing History Radio"
and is available where ever you listen to podcasts!
Thanks for being apart of our community!
Sent by Corporal's Corner.
Glad he did.
we are so glad to see you with us!! you guys are Awesome!!
Wished you could have zoomed in on the artifacts. I felt like i would have learned more with just a little bit of video editing. This is a good video but it could have been great.
Agreed!! we filmed this episode before we had the ability of editing & really before we knew what we were doing. we ARE Planning a Follow-up episode about this topic with David Dean once his book is published. (should be published end of this year) we plan on getting into GREAT Detail with LOTS of Close Up Shot of everything!!
we apologize and hope that you got some good information out of the episode!
make sure to subscribe to our Channel "Chasing History" get notifications when that video comes out! we also have other GREAT Episodes on East Tennessee Prehistoric Native American History on our RUclips Channel! so go check out those episodes!
we also have a weekly podcast "Chasing History Radio" Available where ever you get your podcasts!
Thanks for Being Apart of our community!
@@ChasingHistory thanks. Now that i read the comments i kicked a dead horse. Apologies and i look foward to the follow up.
I would like to buy his book? Any info?
@michaelgrenell ...... As of Jan 2021 David is still working on his book. however is almost finished. the project got expanded with help from archaeological students at East Tennessee State University & some health issues delayed the project but once the book is finished we will announce it on all of our social media platforms, so be sure to follow Chasing History and the Smoky Mountain Relic Room Social Media. we will also do a New Episode with David and have LOTS of close ups on the points and go into GREAT Detail about everything. we are much better filmmakers now then we were when we filmed this episode and are capable of telling a MUCH better story! so stay tuned and we will keep you and everyone posted on the progress!
thanks for your comment! we are grateful you shared your thoughts with us!
we hope that you will continue to do so on future episodes we love to know what everyone is thinking and to have feedback!
if you enjoyed this episode and want to help us out please share on your social media, it helps our algorithmic overlords know that we exist! haha
we also have a weekly podcast "Chasing History Radio" that has some of the great diverse content you see on our channel here! its available where ever you get your podcasts.
we also have a brick and mortar and online store. just google Smoky Mountain Relic Room and you will find us!
thanks for your comment and for being apart of our community!
In my opinion quality knapping material was as "global" as gummi worms are today. Maybe not intercontinental, but certainly intra-continental. Knappable material was far more essential to life as a cell phone is to most people today.
that is a great perspective! thanks for sharing!
How can we purchase the book?
David has had some health problems & has been unable to finish his book, but he is still working on it. it will be available at our store and online at our website when published.
our business is the Smoky Mountain Relic Room
www.therelicroom.com
keep tuned to our social media and we will be promoting it when it is published. and we will be doing another episode (better quality episode) with david again when it gets published. so be sure to subscribe.
we have some interviews with david on our podcast "Chasing History Radio" available where ever you get your podcasts...
thanks for the comment and for being apart of our community.
Yes why did y'all not show us the variants of the clusters
@mightymite ..... we are Very Sorry!! this episode was made severial years ago before we knew anything about filmmaking and had the ability to edit in close up shots! this channel started with a cellphone camera and has evolved into a team of filmmakers, camera crew and editors. but we still have a long way to go! once David gets his book finished we plan on producing a new episode with PLENTY of close up shots! ..... we don't have a time frame for when it will be finished, he has had health problems... but will keep everyone informed, you can subscribe to our channel, or follow the Smoky Mountain Relic Room and Chasing History social media for updates! thanks for your comment! we are grateful you shared your thoughts with us!
we hope that you will continue to do so on future episodes we love to know what everyone is thinking and to have feedback!
if you enjoyed this episode and want to help us out please share on your social media, it helps our algorithmic overlords know that we exist! haha
we also have a weekly podcast "Chasing History Radio" that has some of the great diverse content you see on our channel here! its available where ever you get your podcasts.
we also have a brick and mortar and online store. just google Smoky Mountain Relic Room and you will find us!
thanks for your comment and for being apart of our community!
iam from east Tennessee and have hunted artifacts for 32 years i found a aritfact that i can't identify it. It resembles a granny stone but couldnt b. It looks like it could have been used as a pin or button. its stone 3in long 3/8in wide 1/2in tall and has 3 groves and a taper on 1 side to a point and flat on bottom and has been pecked and ground to very smooth surface. is their a way i can send Mr Dean a picture or take it to him. I live in Unicoi co. I also have 1 more that is shaped like a butterfly made of yellow stone also pecked and ground to a smooth finish the scratches are still visible. and another that is made of soap stone round 5in across 1in thick and a hole in the midle big enough to put a finger in
Ben Crain , Chase Pipes here, contact us through Email.
relics@smkw.com
include you saw our video, and send pictures & we will be happy to identify it for you.
or if your ever in the Sevierville TN area , the Relic Room is located inside the Smoky Mountain Knife Works.... bring it buy & we will be happy to look at it for you!...
thanks
Chase Pipes
anyone out their needing help contact us at our store "Smoky Mountain Relic Room" you can google search or email "relics@smke.com"
Thanks and remember to subscribe and share your favorite episodes!
anyone out their needing help contact us at our store "Smoky Mountain Relic Room" you can google search or email "relics@smke.com"
Thanks and remember to subscribe and share your favorite episodes!
Is his book finished?
his book is not finished... David ran into very serous health problems... which had delayed the project. we are stepping in to try and help him finish the book. we think about a year as the soonest...
@@ChasingHistory ok, thanks for responding.
My kingdom for a CLOSE UP!
hahaha.... yeah Greg … mine too!.... this episode was done a few years ago when we were first starting out! we have greatly improved since then & understand the value of closeups! ……. once David is finished with his book we are going to have a follow-up episode about it …. and I promose….. PLENTY of Close ups!..... Thanks for the comment! we hoped never the less you enjoyed the episode! If you wouldn't mind please give us a like and subscribe to our channel, its Crazy how much it helps!...… We have a LOT more episodes uploaded since this one …. and NEW Episodes coming soon!
We also have a NEW Podcast!!!...…. Chasing History Radio!!….. with over 50 episodes and counting Available where ever you get your podcasts! please check it out and Thanks for being apart of our community!
Wish I could see the arrowheads up close in the video....😔
Once David had completed his book, we will do another episode, making sure to close ups on All the points!!
Michele Austin wish I could too, Iam out.
we have gotten far better at filmmaking since this episode!!… and once david is finished with his book we WILL have another episode and will have closeups of ALL the Points!!……thanks for the comment! We have a LOT more episodes uploaded since this one …. and NEW Episodes coming soon!
We also have a NEW Podcast!!!...…. Chasing History Radio!!….. with over 50 episodes and counting Available where ever you get your podcasts! please check it out and Thanks for being apart of our community!
What is the name of the book and is it out now?
@robertmoon we talked to David Dean last week (April2020) david has completed other archaeological projects he was working on and is now doing nothing but finishing his book. hopefully it will be finished by the end of the year.
when completed we will have copies for sale at our store in Seveirville Tennessee and will post information on this video when it will be available so stay tuned.
here is our email if you wish to contact us further.
relics@smkw.com
Thanks for the comment!
- If you enjoy podcasts please check out our Weekly Podcast
"Chasing History Radio"
available where ever you get your podcast!
- if you enjoyed this episode Please help us spread the word by sharing this or your favorite episodes on your social media! Its Crazy how much that helps us get to the top of the feed!
Thanks for the comment and for being apart of our community,
I have several Lamoka points with my woodlands. Also several paleo age mixed with my woodland age. I'm sure the woodland tribes were excited as us to find the paleo . Its sad that tallented flintnappers have ruined the value of authentic points.
yes, sadly great knappers but mostly greed had killed the collecting of prehistoric relics. its not the knappers fault, but the greedy people who age them. i know of one instance of woodland peoples collecting archaic relics... we discuss it in one of our Art Gerber episodes.. a ball of Archaic points discovered in a woodland mound... check that episode out to learn more about it?
if you haven't already, hit that subscribe button, we come out with GREAT New content all the time, all history Related. be sure to check out our Podcast "Chasing History Radio" a Weekly show about the same diverse topics you see here on our channel. follow Smoky Mountain Relic Room on Facebook and Instagram for Exclusive Videos of Really Awesome Artifacts, fossils and minerals. (we are sharing a lot of really cool videos their! ) if you are ever up Sevierville Tennessee way stop in and check out our Store, Inside Smoky Mountain Knife Works! just google "Smoky Mountain Relic Room"
Thanks for your comment, please keep commenting it helps our algorithmic overlords (haha) know that we exist, and to share our videos.
we hope you will continue to be apart of our community!
so 😎cool
Thanks for the comment!! David was such a GREAT teacher and mentor, and he is surly missed!
Right, ever heard of zoom?
as in previous comments, we apologized for that... this was one of our earlier episodes …. the quality of our show had increased & understand the importance of getting close so everyone can see up close what we are talking about!!
Archaeologist Dean is almost finished with his book and when he is we will bring you a NEW Episode with him and get PLENTY of Close ups on Every Artifact!!
Please like, Share this episode & subscribe to our channel if you deem us worthy! we always try to have fun & informative content!
Check out our weekly Podcast, … "Chasing History Radio" where we talk about Everything that lies in the past.. from Fossil History to the Artifacts that have changed out lives, its a Fun and Diverse History show much like our RUclips Channel!
Thanks for being apart of our community!
@@ChasingHistory Yes, sorry I should have deleted this...thanks.
Btw, I found many rough stone tools/points while looking for arrowheads 2 days ago. Besides keeping for personal collection or donating, do you sell any of artifacts?
My dad has one
thats Awesome! thanks for your comment!
we also have a Podcast.... Chasing History Radio .... that has a Great interview with Archaeologist Dean ... it is available where ever you get your podcast
Twoguys yacking endlessly. Pulled up video to see arrowheads.
Sorry didnt know he died
This episode was made long before we had any ability to edit ... all we had was a camera and good and knowledgeable people to share what they know.... anyone can show you arrowheads... but few could actually TEACH you about them like the Late David Dean... were not here to show you how cool our arrowheads are .... but to teach you about them, there history and the people who once lived here. we apologize for our editing abilities... this was filmed Years ago.... we hope you will check out our more recent episodes.
Trust Jesus Christ the SON of GOD! Roman’s 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus , and shalt Believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead , thou Shalt be Saved . John 3:18 He that Believeth on Him is Not condemned: but he that Believeth Not on him is condemned already, because he hath Not Believed in the name of the Only Begotten Son of God
you realize that your just turning people away from Christianity by doing this... we respect all religions and everyone's right to worship as they see fit as laid out in the founding of the American republic. but when you do crap like this... it makes your religion look like its full of crazy people! .....as a Christian... we ask that you not do this on our channel