Genes and IQ
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
- In this podcast, Razib Khan talks with us about a very controversial subject i.e. "Genes and IQ". This is one of the most sensitive subjects in scientific circles. Razib takes us through the entire range of work in this field from Charles Murray, Robert Plomin, and Kathyrn Harden. We also look at many aspects of this research from the social justice and ethics point of view.
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When external appearances or certain diseases are linked to genetics , no one has a problem . But talk about IQ or intelligence , everyone set their hair on fire ! A lot of who you are is genetics with some effect due to environment and upbringing . Live with that truth .
A lot of what we call patriarchy is also a result of the sexual difference between men and women
Rape is also a consequence of male sexuality. ..doesn't mean we tell women that they should learn to live with it!
What is natural is not necessarily good and what is good is not necessarily natural!
Claims of genetic superiority are the first few steps towards a genocide !
@@RD-pp9ds but can we abolish it though by denying its existence .
Or by having a conversation and try to find a solution .
Patriarchy is weakened because of modernity but what if modernity collapse than these things will come back with a vengeance .
We have to ask questions that are these issues really exist and if they exist how can they be solve.
Rapes are not gone women are living with it even there are laws ans punishment .
We have to ask if this behaviour is natural how can it be controlled and it will not go away by shouting by death to patriarchy or these genetic distinctions don't exist .
@@RD-pp9ds and there are solutions like Dr Peterson have said if race and Iq has a basis .
Than we should promote interracial marriages as it is observed that mixed race children perform better than all.
It is not necessary that these conversation will always lead to genocide it can also lead to solution too .
@@smoky3302 IQ should not define an individual. We should make our system in a way that we can give some benefits to low IQ people as well.
@@newtide8209 yes that's what iam talking about solutions .
Razib Khan always keeps it real
There is a school in Pune Maharashtra which admits children only with high IQ. Jnana (gyan) Prabodhini. The children are tried to be groomed in a way that they use their high intelligence for betterment of society when they grow up. It's a rare educational experiment.
It would be interesting to see where this goes.
(I hear Hitler had a very high IQ)
@VeeeBeee IQ 's are of many types too ( 9 types ? ) . Not all of them are in academic fields .
Really interesting @ 19:54 . I have a friend who thinks IQ is just your brain adapting to what you're interested in, and if you have little interest in complex things, you won't develop a high IQ. Razib seems to be positing: some slightly higher ability ---> seeking out complex things/ideas ---> greater ability, etc. In other words, it's an unstable system, in the sense that letting out the clutch on a car is an unstable system. Also important to point out, your interests are also likely highly heritable. But if you believe you're stupid, you may be afraid to pursue the things you're interested in, and never develop to your potential. Like a malnourished person with "tall genes" never reached potential height.
It’s only works on the ground level with individuals. This thought doesn’t matter for masses.
My mom was interested in frogs, me clowns😊😊
Based! I appreciate the rare honesty here!
Dr. Khan you're ignoring generational differences in IQ - the Flynn efffect reversed decades ago, because the selective pressures that created high IQ in post WW2 Europe (war, starvation, natural disaster, disease, all of these are selective pressures and they don't affect us all evenly - the chance of survival is dramatically lower if you have a low IQ) are now absent in the west. If you want to look for the place on earth with the likely highest IQ today, it's probably Rwanda. (Seriously, look the place up, they're doing damn well for themselves). Human brutality is a powerful selective force, and we've engineered the least brutal world in human history. For exactly that reason, I fear we're going to lose it within a generation - we created heaven on earth, yet we do not deserve it.
Always loving your podcasts, i don't watch them all but i know what to watch just by looking at topic.
I have been started reading about genes few weeks back and you brought razib 🙂.
Good interview
Bring Rajib to talk about Aryan Invasion/Migration Theory. He has very clear and scientific views about it based on Genetics.
razib*
Watch video of abhinab prkash with razib
@@shaileshjoshi1727 I have watched that but most people including Kushal and his audience do not believe in Aryan Invasion/migration theory. So it is necessary to hear different opinions, otherwise you end up in thought bubble.
@@ramdharisinghdinkar1069 well people came to india but not during last 3500yrs back they came around 2500 yrs during greek invasion into east.
@@ramdharisinghdinkar1069 and watch the youtube channel vaad there is a good video on this
Kushal Sir said Razib Sir is cancelled, may I know when and why? Anybody?
To cancel someone (usually a celebrity or other well-known figure) means to stop giving support to that person. The act of canceling could entail boycotting an actor's movies or no longer reading or promoting a writer's works.
@@akashkulkarni4095 Brother my question was when and why was he cancelled and not what being cancelled means.
@@aishwaryprabalpandey2384 twitter pe se dikh jayega shayad
@@aishwaryprabalpandey2384 Because he is politically incorrect and hurts the sentiments of weak minded fools who believe that all races are equal etc.
APORIA has scholarly articles that should interest you.
1:01:23 agar Abhijit hota to bolta Kushal ne hi fake ID se question dala hai
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I think book type of intelligence is inherited. Academic thinking is in the genes. But there are other gifts people can have. Many so-called intelligent people are dumb in practical things. What about genius types? How can someone grow up in a totally unintelligent environment be super smart? That is a question which interests me the most. Kind of out-of-the -blue knowledge about something that could not be genetic. Autistic people that have supernatural gifts. Any average highly intelligent person that has genetic reasons to be that way is not as mysterious to me as a person with unusual capabilities. Gifts that can't be traced back to upbringing are more valuable. Where does that come from? And there are people of any creed or color or priviledged or underpriviledged backgrounds that can have super powers. Are they created by mutations in their genes? Or coincidences of some recombinations of dna? I don't appreciate arrogance in book s.art people. Being humble is still for me at least a higher human quality than IQ test smartness. I was once given an IQ test and was angry that I had to prove that I a smart because I knew in advance that I would not be categorized as a candidate for umiversity studies because I come from an underpriviledged background. That country would not invest in my higher education so I boycotted the test by answering all questions wrong on purpose. But because I had a lot of time left, I drew pictures so they said I should be an architectual draftsperson because I'm good with my hands. Eventually, I left that country and proved to myself in the US that I can be more intelligent. I always knew it.
RK is completely off the mark as regards UK immigrant groups. The demographics skew far poorer, less educated, and working class/blue collar than their counterparts in the US, except for maybe Indians and Chinese. It’s definitely not analogous to Asians in the US.
I understand your point, but that doesn’t mean that those immigrating aren’t of the higher IQ population that also happens to be poor, less educated, etc.
like size doesn´t matter
I thought Khan was good till I saw this. He has poor reasoning for contrary evidence. Uses guesswork which is strange for an evidence based scientific mind
This variance between black women and black men seems to coincide with the strong black woman narrative that has been prevalent in the black community since about the 80s. Strong independent don’t need a man mind set. Maybe this hyper encouragement to be independent played a role in this gap?
Come on! There is a reason why we have EEDI. God created human beings to have different skills and talents. The world won't work if everybody is good in Math only or in dancing only. We need all kinds of abilities and talents. God did not make a mistake, He knows what he is doing.
Can anyone tell what is the avg IQ level of India.i searched the net but couldnt find any concrete results.
85-90
@@akshaysubramaniam8963, generally, the people who followed the seacoast to Australia stayed close to the ocean. The ones in the north in river valleys are Indo-Aryan
how does this guy know all this stuff???
Lol watchu think?
First podcast of kushal which I cudnt follow properly
Hi
Bro, playing basketball takes intelligence. It is the same but it takes a lot of work to be the best basketball player like Kobe or Messi or Mayweather who play with their head than their body. It has a lot to do with solving problems too. Yes, Lebron is more of a body player but the likes of Messi who plan each and every situation and train accordingly are solving problems in seconds because they have done it in training. It is like taking an exam with your entire body and each fake or feint is like solving a problem with your body. Sports that do not include solving problems like rowing or various athletic events may be completely athletic but most aren't.
Here'a question for IQ enthusiasts. Who has the higher IQ, Beethoven or Michelangelo, or Muhammad Ali, or Franklin Delano Roosevelt, or Shakespeare? They were all very high achievers in their realms. Can we use IQ to find out anything about them which allows for comparison? I don't think so. So what value does IQ have? Not much. Mostly what IQ test tells us is who is good at getting high scores on IQ tests. After that, they're pretty much useless. If you just think about it for a minute, you realize that trying to rate something as complex as the human brain with a 3-digit number is ridiculous. As far as achievement goes, the wealth and education level of your parents is far better at predicting how far you'll go in this world.
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Does God still love me if I'm gay?
no he doesn't but satan sure as hell does so good luck 👍
God does not care, on the same level as he does not care about children dying of
diarrhea...
Not abrahamic gods. They don't consider you. Eastern religions do consider. Especially Hinduism.
God is created in the image of man, so only if you love yourself.
God loves everyone
Please tell then why is everyone against Rahul Gandhi, he must have a great political IQ . Why everyone feel he is not a good politician??
You people are such a hypocrite.
He had fallen from bed when he was a kid 🤣
@@abhishekanandjha7996 aisa hi logic aata hai dimag jo apne aapko genetically superior manta hai, uske.
Our ancestors knew this back in 3000 bc. That's the reason they rewarded these high IQ people with the title of brahmins and they were put on the top of jati varna system. The problem is that brahmin brahmin marriage kind of minimized this transfer of high IQ genetics.
you're a fool if you think evolution of social hierarchies were some sort of voluntary consensus... if you're brahmin, then this comment is definitely proof that IQ is not solely the preserve of brahmins... gtfo with that brahmins are smarter bullshit casteism apologia is stupid and evil.... was that also inherited?
Really🤦🤦..
@@anonymouslyopinionated656 this is what I am talking about linking race and IQ leads to such rubbish ideas
@@truthseekerindian8735 I never said brahmins were aryans. Brahmins were Harrapans. Aryans were meat eating tribal warriors and they originated in Iran and had regular connection with Indian subcontinent. Also mostly rajputs inter married among Royal Family from India and North West and same brahmins married other brahmins as other communities were meat eaters.
@@truthseekerindian8735 almost all societies that have survived are hierarchical. Aryans might have mixed with the rajputs mostly not brahmins.
In order to survive you need hierarchy and only way to eliminate the rigid hierarchy is to produce so much that we don't have to worry about contributions of each person in hierarchy. Well you're just making a pseudo hierarchy and not eliminating it in a sense you have to just create artificial labour that doesn't get tired and doesn't need working hours I. E ai and robots and hence communism doesn't work because you are not in advanced enough for communism to work
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One more attempt to rationalize the privilege of certain caste and people of certain class, by giving pseudo scientific rationale . So that upper caste and upper class people can justify their nepotism.
Hehe
You are on a absolute anti caste channel
This is exactly the problem with these podcasts. Only one sided narrative and people who tend to agree with a certain narrative choose the podcast of their liking and then their beliefs get reinforced!
I don't agree with the video yes but what do u mean by privilege and why people should be ashamed of it.
If privilege is a problem than what about human privilege we as a species are privileged over other animals .
Human beings are not equal that's a truth yes u can argue on what basis this inequality exist .
And if it exist try to create solutions by identifying the problem not by denying it all togather .
And this word pesudo scientific is used by every one now a days .
Iam not a scientist but razib is so I will give some credit to him even if I don't agree with him .
One shouldn't forget that all this talk of equality is a product of modernity but what of modernity collapse.
If there is some scientific truth in his claims than socitey will regress back to the same soical conditions.
We have to talk about it and if there is a issue we have to find solutions to it too .
Because genetic privileges like socitey privilege will not go away with change in socitieal conditions.
People who are claiming such things like inter racial marriages it is observed that inter racial mixed kids perform better in such tests .
lol only a fool believes pre-disposition is "justification"