I bet Matt Light wasn’t even on the phone with the Jets. It was prolly the first prank he ever pulled on the Patriots, He knew the Pats had the pick after the Jets.
They're also a changing lives for better or worse spending lots of money and looking forward towards the future. We'll not as much as anymore because college kids are going to start asking for tons of money before they even get to league. I agree college players should get paid especially extremely popular players that buy their college jerseys or something like that. It used to be something to get a full ride scholarship. You get to play football, you get education, free food, free dorm or housing.
@@mikeh024naaah if you watch the backstage looks on the drafts they still use landlines when calling other teams etc. Tbh I think everyone who’s apart of the draft process on the nfl non player side all use landlines throughout the draft process. It’s kinda crazy. The colts have a great series of it on RUclips
Best part of the storie is Matt Millen actually did trade that pick for a Ham Sandwich and its STILL one of the best trades he made while GM of the Lions.
I heard someone say "if Matt Millen had a time machine and went back with a list of all the great players he passed on, he would still pick all of the wrong guys."
Matt is awesome dude. My cousins uncle use to own a hobby shot in Foxboro. He became friends with some players and he use to hunt with Matt. My cousins always talked shit about hanging out with Matt I was always like sure whatever blah blah. I show up randomly one weekend spend the night we party have a blast. My one cousin say I am going Turkey hunting with Matt at like 5am. I am like sure you are tell him to come say hi and blew it off. At about 5am I was pulled out of bed suddenly and smacked around playfully by a rather large man who scared the shit out of me. It was Matt and he was laughing his ass off. He had beers with us later that day. Funny ass guy.
Lol In my life span so far, I don't ever remember a time when the Jets didn't suck. We'll I guess they did okay when they had Chad Pennington and Curtis Martin
Spygate and deflategate were perpetraded by the Jets. The NFL front office was run by ex-Jets execs and they didn't miss an opportunity to try to screw the Patriots.
Matt wasn’t really on the phone with the Jets, he had fallen asleep and the phone rang. Thankfully Koppen was sitting behind him and told him to say he was talking to the Jets, the rest is history.
Matt Millen was the right guy to call, he did the lions so terrible his whole time there….. 31-81 had to look it up can’t believe we won 31 games with him in charge smh good for New England…..
So as a lifelong lions fan normally I would agree with you. However the player who the Lions took after trading down was Dominic Raiola. Think he did ok at that pick lol.
Aside from the obvious animosity between the Patriots and the Jets, the premise of the Games With Names podcast is to talk about and rank all-time great games with someone who was somehow involved in that game. I’m not sure how many great games the Jets have been involved in. Maybe they can get Joe Namath to talk about one of the most famous upsets in NFL history.
@@Mikerhodes18 from birth to 25 years of age I watched Tom Brady dominate our division. It’s over and it’s the funniest thing to watch patriots fans not understand they are going to be so bad for decades to come
@@shanebruno3632 lmao as a Patriots fan I can understand the hate 🤣 we've been kicking yall around for years and years .. I was blessed to see all those championships it had to end at some point
As a Giants season ticket holder, I have to admit, I love this podcast & all of the Patriot stories. I guess it’s because my G-Men snatched their souls TWICE in the SB, that I don’t hate them. But Jules is funny AF, has great guests & they tell epic, hilarious, football stories!
those two SB still haunt my dreams 🥺, not a fan of the giants but definitely respect them. you guys gotta do something with Danny dimes. I also wouldn't be surprised if you end up with belichick next year since he loves the giants so much LOL
Maybe Millen's only decent draft. We got Jeff Backus and Dom Raiola in the first 2 rounds that year. I can only imagine MM was targeting a wideout in that second round. Maybe Ocho?
@@Aaron-kj8dvlions did not get shaun rogers. They ended up taking dominic raiola with that pick. Shaun rogers was their other 2nd rounder. The move literally did nothing for the lions except screw the jets out of matt light. They probably take raiola regardlessly at 48. Pats traded a 6th rounder to move up - jason glenn who never played a snap with the lions and ironically went to the jets
So in one sense, the trade helped the Lions because they got an extra draft pick out of it, but in another sense it didn’t help the Lions because the guy they drafted didn’t pan out.
Interesting note on tampa running game. Its not as obvious whose 1 and 2 cause white is getting mostly outside zones (which the tampa oline has been pretty bad at) while Bucky has been getting interior runs (which the Tampa oline has been pretty good at). Still think bucky is better but maybe not so obviously better
This is why Detroit was a dumpster organization for years.. if i was Matt Millen i would have said "one of our guys just went but we got a couple in mind, why who you thinking about?? Ok well let me see and ill call you back" And then I would draft whoever the perennial superbowl team was wanting.
Matt Light was drafted in 2001. The Patriots weren’t a perennial Super Bowl team yet. At that point, they only had two appearances and they lost both of them.
the jets were 49th overall, patriots 50th. the lions moved from their 48th spot to the 50th and got the patriots 173rd pick. so like a pretty well made ham sandwich
Once again the incompetent Lions (of the past) save another franchise (instead of their own). For a ham sammich! Millen was definitely the only kid on the shortest of short buses. "Look! Every seat is the cool kids seat!" 😂
The Lions only moved down two spots in the draft, and they were able to pick the guy they wanted anyway. For that, they were able to get an extra 6th rounder. Granted, that pick didn’t pan out, but not all draft picks do and for the Lions this was a good trade.
I went to a matt light foot ball camp when i was a kid!.... Shit my pants 2nd day in in a 4 day camp... Made the mistake of telling my closest confidant... He was not my closest confidant.. i was dookie boy, even by the coaches the remainder of the time there.
It is a great story , and the following year the Pats won the super bowl. Butbim sure at the time Matt Light was not as thrilled as he is now. If you are a football fan youd know at that point in time the Jets were alot better and projected to be alot better. Imagine that : Seymour 1 Light 3l2nd round? DYNASTY.
If the Jets were projected to be better than the Patriots, all that tells me is that the people making the projections don’t really know what’s happening behind the scenes at those organizations.
Nothing says “poverty franchise” and “GM is a sucker” like calling and keeping a franchise left tackle on the line when a bunch of other teams are in front of you…
Detroit drafted Dominic Raiola, I’m mean for 2nd round pick not bad but not as good as Light’s career was that’s for sure. Boy did Detroit draft like shit there for the longest time..
The guy they drafted was Dominic Raiola, a center who played 14 seasons for the team. Matt Millen made plenty of shitty picks, but that wasn’t one of them.
Matt Light was probably the best guest on Edelnuts podcast.
I love how everyone is calling g Julian, Edlenut
@@Who_Dey420I round table with Billy B, Matt light and Edelnut would be elite
I bet Matt Light wasn’t even on the phone with the Jets. It was prolly the first prank he ever pulled on the Patriots, He knew the Pats had the pick after the Jets.
His podcast name should be Edelnuts! 😅
"First ones on me, the second times on you"
Draft day must be a cluster fuck of phone calls each year lol
Phone calls and conspiracy theories I bet those rooms are absolute hell 😂😂😂
Watch jerry maguire lol
Its gotta be easier with smartphones, imagine landlines😂😂😂😂
They're also a changing lives for better or worse spending lots of money and looking forward towards the future. We'll not as much as anymore because college kids are going to start asking for tons of money before they even get to league. I agree college players should get paid especially extremely popular players that buy their college jerseys or something like that. It used to be something to get a full ride scholarship. You get to play football, you get education, free food, free dorm or housing.
@@mikeh024naaah if you watch the backstage looks on the drafts they still use landlines when calling other teams etc. Tbh I think everyone who’s apart of the draft process on the nfl non player side all use landlines throughout the draft process. It’s kinda crazy. The colts have a great series of it on RUclips
Best part of the storie is Matt Millen actually did trade that pick for a Ham Sandwich and its STILL one of the best trades he made while GM of the Lions.
😂😂😂 Great comment
I heard someone say "if Matt Millen had a time machine and went back with a list of all the great players he passed on, he would still pick all of the wrong guys."
He got a 6th round pick to move back 2 spots and took Dominic Raiola who started at Center for 13 years. You take that trade every time
lol this should be pinned
He really said That's was the best ham he ever had in his life 😂😂😂😂😂 good move Matt
Edelnut, thank you for an amazing podcast!!! We love you and all your guests - these stories are EPIC!
Matt is awesome dude. My cousins uncle use to own a hobby shot in Foxboro. He became friends with some players and he use to hunt with Matt. My cousins always talked shit about hanging out with Matt I was always like sure whatever blah blah. I show up randomly one weekend spend the night we party have a blast. My one cousin say I am going Turkey hunting with Matt at like 5am. I am like sure you are tell him to come say hi and blew it off. At about 5am I was pulled out of bed suddenly and smacked around playfully by a rather large man who scared the shit out of me. It was Matt and he was laughing his ass off. He had beers with us later that day. Funny ass guy.
So your uncles brother? Wouldn’t that also be your uncle? Awesome tidbit tho
Not if its and uncle by marriage.
I lost brain cells
Sure you did haha
The Belichick era was a masterclass in have geniuses around him to help out in many different ways...especially in ways to screw over the Jets 😂
And now the Patriots are irrelevant trash
Sadly only in the first half.
Lol In my life span so far, I don't ever remember a time when the Jets didn't suck. We'll I guess they did okay when they had Chad Pennington and Curtis Martin
Spygate and deflategate were perpetraded by the Jets. The NFL front office was run by ex-Jets execs and they didn't miss an opportunity to try to screw the Patriots.
@@ryanschuler9827there were decent from 1998-2002, 2004, 2006, and 2008-2010 lol! After 2010 they did not make the playoffs.
Love seeing both side's of the story
Sides works just fine without an apostrophe
Matt wasn’t really on the phone with the Jets, he had fallen asleep and the phone rang. Thankfully Koppen was sitting behind him and told him to say he was talking to the Jets, the rest is history.
Give us a ham sandwich 😂😂
Matt Millen was the right guy to call, he did the lions so terrible his whole time there….. 31-81 had to look it up can’t believe we won 31 games with him in charge smh good for New England…..
I.can see him saying that too
Love a savage GM story man. As a ravens fan GM is big for us. Ozzie the legend
Dude was like this debotchery is needed to save me from a life in jets hell lmao played along and I'd say it worked out
My brother in Christ de-WHAT ? 😂
debotchery
Come on dude, you can spell better than that
@@deezuschrist9794 to be fair debauchery took me 3 second place elementary school spelling bees to learn how to spell.
Of course Millen couldnt recognize a talented offensive lineman to save his life.
As a lions fan it’s always a kick in the dick when he was GM. Bet it was a WR that he coveted when everyone else was screaming Matt light!!!
I wish your comment was made where more eyes would see it, I choked on my drink. Too true 😂😂😂😂
So as a lifelong lions fan normally I would agree with you. However the player who the Lions took after trading down was Dominic Raiola. Think he did ok at that pick lol.
@@ccr35582 31 out of 32 random nfl fans would take Matt Light over Dom Raiola.
He got Dominic Raola in the trade
"That's Matt Light he's got 3 fucking Super Bowls. Next time you come into this facility you better remember his fucking name"
Matt was on the phone with Dominos (not the Jets(
Dude this is one best podcast 🤣
Pioli story during Falcons Super Bowl is legend. That's Freddy Krueger over there. Just pray he doesn't get us all 😅
Man....i had no idea new england was this nuts behind the scenes
If you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin!
"THE Patriot Way"
Love Matt one of the best to ever play the game and such a good guy!
I love stories about the Patriots screwing the jets
Fun fact, the Lions would then proceed to draft Dylan Raiola’s father at center💀
Something tells me few people from the Jets are gonna get on Edelman's podcast.
Aside from the obvious animosity between the Patriots and the Jets, the premise of the Games With Names podcast is to talk about and rank all-time great games with someone who was somehow involved in that game. I’m not sure how many great games the Jets have been involved in. Maybe they can get Joe Namath to talk about one of the most famous upsets in NFL history.
We really just fk the Jets at every possible turn 😂
It's the Patriot Way
Enjoy the next 20 years of being last in the division lol. Spoiled patriot fans
@@shanebruno3632 oh you salty huh lmao
@@Mikerhodes18 from birth to 25 years of age I watched Tom Brady dominate our division. It’s over and it’s the funniest thing to watch patriots fans not understand they are going to be so bad for decades to come
@@shanebruno3632 lmao as a Patriots fan I can understand the hate 🤣 we've been kicking yall around for years and years .. I was blessed to see all those championships it had to end at some point
This dude is awesome As well as this podcast
As a Bills fan, this still somehow warms my soul
The lions got one of their franchise best players Dominic Raiola 2 picks later. So worked out for everybody.
If there's one thing Bill belichick loves more than winning super bowls it's shitting on the jets
As a jets fan I have to say this is such a great story 😂😂 stories like this are what makes sports great
What could have been! The Johnsons got to sell
@@DoneRightpcrepair praying for the day I’m 28 going on 29 in a month and we’ve been trash my entire life outside of those two afc championships😂
Julian gotta play Popeye in a Movie...Lol
As a Dolphins fan, I don't like the Patriots... but I absolutely hate the Jets. Anytime they get screwed i LOVE it.
As a Giants season ticket holder, I have to admit, I love this podcast & all of the Patriot stories. I guess it’s because my G-Men snatched their souls TWICE in the SB, that I don’t hate them. But Jules is funny AF, has great guests & they tell epic, hilarious, football stories!
those two SB still haunt my dreams 🥺, not a fan of the giants but definitely respect them. you guys gotta do something with Danny dimes. I also wouldn't be surprised if you end up with belichick next year since he loves the giants so much LOL
i love seeing these videos of my hometown star! pride and joy of greenville ohio
And he was an integral part of several super bowls. Crazy how that worked out!
" give us a ham sandwich" lmao
"Can you tell us how you screwed the jets?"
"Gladly"
I love draft stories like this
“Right, it was awesome”
That beard saved matt.
Plot twist… The Jets weren’t on the other line! Matt was playing the patriots! It worked!
(Probably!)
Lol he knew it was smart not to tell jets. 🤣
So the Pats screwed the Jets over TWICE!? 😂
They traded with the Steelers so that the Steelers could grab Broderick Jones from Georgia instead of NY 💀
Matt Light is internally grateful 😂
Great content. Good people
My anxiety the whole time he was telling the story and I knew the ending.
Glad I'm not a Jets fan! 😂
But it looks like things might be turning around for BOTH teams!
That pioli face of EPIC 😂😂😂
What a killer move
Maybe Millen's only decent draft. We got Jeff Backus and Dom Raiola in the first 2 rounds that year. I can only imagine MM was targeting a wideout in that second round. Maybe Ocho?
If you need a quick sucker deal, call Matt Millen
The Matt Millen experience, trading for ham sandwichs and hot dogs
I just looked it up. Lions got Shaun Rogers with that pick.
Matt Light had a better career but Rogers was a nice player
@@Aaron-kj8dv I agree with you. A stud
@@Aaron-kj8dvlions did not get shaun rogers. They ended up taking dominic raiola with that pick. Shaun rogers was their other 2nd rounder. The move literally did nothing for the lions except screw the jets out of matt light. They probably take raiola regardlessly at 48. Pats traded a 6th rounder to move up - jason glenn who never played a snap with the lions and ironically went to the jets
So in one sense, the trade helped the Lions because they got an extra draft pick out of it, but in another sense it didn’t help the Lions because the guy they drafted didn’t pan out.
As a jets fan that’s brutal
that’s cold 🥶😂
Interesting note on tampa running game. Its not as obvious whose 1 and 2 cause white is getting mostly outside zones (which the tampa oline has been pretty bad at) while Bucky has been getting interior runs (which the Tampa oline has been pretty good at).
Still think bucky is better but maybe not so obviously better
A trade up for a ham sandwich is wild work lol
As a Lions fan, got a lot of feelings towards Matt Millen... but knowing he screwed the Jets, in a way, is awesome.
How many times do we have to hear this story?
That is fuckin EPIC!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Matt Light lookin like Vlad TV
This is why Detroit was a dumpster organization for years.. if i was Matt Millen i would have said "one of our guys just went but we got a couple in mind, why who you thinking about?? Ok well let me see and ill call you back"
And then I would draft whoever the perennial superbowl team was wanting.
Matt Light was drafted in 2001. The Patriots weren’t a perennial Super Bowl team yet. At that point, they only had two appearances and they lost both of them.
the jets were 49th overall, patriots 50th. the lions moved from their 48th spot to the 50th and got the patriots 173rd pick. so like a pretty well made ham sandwich
How we screwed the Jets..."EPIC"...see nice guys finish last everytime!💯
Matt Light has Crohn’s Disease also. UFB that he could play football with that.
Now we see why Matt Millen did not do so well in Detroit 😅😅😅
I assumed this would be some sort of illegal tampering on draft day
This is epic 😂
You’re telling me Matt Light could have actually gotten contracts worth his value from the Jets?
Crazy to think you have hundreds of guys calling around, trying to buy you like a piece of property.
Matt Light's signing bonus was a ham sandwich.
Once again the incompetent Lions (of the past) save another franchise (instead of their own). For a ham sammich! Millen was definitely the only kid on the shortest of short buses. "Look! Every seat is the cool kids seat!" 😂
So the Lions wanted to draft Jamie Winborn and stumbled into Dominic Raiola
Matt Millen probably didnt even know who dude was. Another missed pick
God lions fan first time I heard someone said Matt millen was there boy
They stay fleecing the jets😂
I think he helped himself there
AAYYYYOOOOOOO 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Is that legal?
That shows how dysfunctional that millen lions were. Glad he wasn’t on the lidowns radar
The Lions only moved down two spots in the draft, and they were able to pick the guy they wanted anyway. For that, they were able to get an extra 6th rounder. Granted, that pick didn’t pan out, but not all draft picks do and for the Lions this was a good trade.
I love how everyone hates the jets
I went to a matt light foot ball camp when i was a kid!.... Shit my pants 2nd day in in a 4 day camp... Made the mistake of telling my closest confidant... He was not my closest confidant.. i was dookie boy, even by the coaches the remainder of the time there.
The Patriots gaming the system to screw over the Jets? No way
It is a great story , and the following year the Pats won the super bowl. Butbim sure at the time Matt Light was not as thrilled as he is now. If you are a football fan youd know at that point in time the Jets were alot better and projected to be alot better.
Imagine that : Seymour 1 Light 3l2nd round? DYNASTY.
If the Jets were projected to be better than the Patriots, all that tells me is that the people making the projections don’t really know what’s happening behind the scenes at those organizations.
No tampering right
I'm in pain now
Yea but what about the ham sandwich??
A ham sandwich was all it took in those days
He was more screwing the Jets over 😂
Ham Sandwich
Ham sammitch lol
As a lions fan hearing Matt millen fuck us over by passing on Matt light makes my blood boil
A ham sandwich is why the lions organization had been a laughing stock before DC
Bring Antwaun Molden on
It almost seems like the Patriots organization was more concerned with screwing over the Jets and the Super Bowls just kind of happened LMAO
Jets taking Ls & it’s not even Sunday.
Well you know, it's the Jets. Who's their QB?? Rodgers. They haven't changed a bit. Everyone on the planet knew it was stupid except the Jets.
Nothing says “poverty franchise” and “GM is a sucker” like calling and keeping a franchise left tackle on the line when a bunch of other teams are in front of you…
He’s not exaggerating either they literally gave the lions dude a ham sandwich for the trade
We got brick so…
Detroit drafted Dominic Raiola, I’m mean for 2nd round pick not bad but not as good as Light’s career was that’s for sure. Boy did Detroit draft like shit there for the longest time..
Thats Matt Light, id appreciate it if you all knew his $%#&ing name...
leave it to matt millen to not draft a hall of fame o lineman
The guy they drafted was Dominic Raiola, a center who played 14 seasons for the team. Matt Millen made plenty of shitty picks, but that wasn’t one of them.
@ yeah i liked raiola