What is enlightenment? | J. Krishnamurti
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Saanen 1980 - Question #3 from Question & Answer Meeting #4
'What is enlightenment?'
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"A supreme enlightenment means that a mind has no conflict"
yes the mind is pure and the body must be also
to house the enlightened being and state of being
maybe I think soul can have no conflict. Mind always has conflict because logic will approach paradox and have to hand it off to the soul for a chill pill. Egyptians had a few "souls", probably, like we do, mind, soul, ego, id, super consciousness, etc?
I want to thank Jiddu sir and the creators of this channel from the bottom of my heart...
There is no "enlightenment" to be achieved. You are always here.
@Dònal Brügge its because you are not aware of your actions that moment. thought takes over the vehicle of the mind while you are sleeping. But there is nothing to be enlightened about you are always there, its just the matter of awareness
@@rambocool4284 How do you notice is it more often?
@Dònal Brügge world doesnt exist its a projection of our minds:)
A self realised person attains enlightenment and after His current life attains Liberation!
The moment child says Iam innocent ...... it is no more innocent.....
If a child doesn't say anything about innocent is certainly innocent....
Ur mistakening something, the child will always speak the truth for he has no reason to lie, it is when he lies even when he has abundance of something he is no longer innocent, would you say the child who stole to survive in the streets a liar when he was threatened by a dumb humongous man who would beat teh shit out of him. It isn’t about saying you are innocent or not, rather speaking the truth.
Someone can very well be enlightened at that particular moment but the fact is the universe is so vast as a human soul we cannot comprehend it, life death creation itself. To be enlightened for this life is to know that everything is an illusion, everything is true and false at the same time. What we do in our life doesn’t really matter, but we must do it for we have a role to play in this cosmic drama,
To be enlightened is to realise that it doesn’t matter and yet be okay with it. Give without the expectation of getting back; passion, love
At least that’s what i think it is.
a child walks on the beach,
she sees a shell,
is a treasure.
a man walks on the side walk,
he sees a bill,
is a treasure.
Sir you got it really. Thanks. How many people are there in India like us.
Good
You’re listening to someone who cracked the code of thinking. Keep listening. No one is more true than this man. You might go around listening to others but you will end up with him. The reason is simple: he knows what he is talking about. In time you might get bored of him because he speaks in the same way and people run away and think he doesn’t touch the heart of people. But this is a huge misunderstanding, because he shows you the way intellectually and the opening of the heart will be your sweetest surprise. He doesn’t want his experience to be yours; he simply wants you to have your own. He throws you into the ocean of your deepest fears and lets you swim alone. Nobody can swim for you. And there is the success of a true master.
wonderfully said!
U really said these so simply and beautifully.
Wouldn't this text be even more beautiful, if it was just a question? It is your perspective, but I would like to read how you are looking for the answer, that maybe hidden behind all conclusions.
Nobody can swim for you??..
Well Jesus walked on water...and Peter followed ..no?..and he failed on walking on water ..and Jesus came and gave him a hand!
Listen to me...if other saints would not swim for you..
Or help you...do you really think you'd do it by yourself?..
kissi:)
@@ayeeye1524 What are you searching for?
Yes...I can say surely that many Indian so called gurus, speakers, ...Now a days use his talks to learn and become popular....donot know why less people view this great talk....But bitter truth is that very less people know him and miss the genuine info....
I think JK reaches you when you are ready- not that you can reach him/ just follow him/listen to him etc
@@aycademirciturgay4115 only open minded people should discover jk.
JK was the "chosen one" for the theosophical society as a great enlightened being and he was exposed to all the scriptures of the world in an effort to manufacture a perfect realised human being. Most of what he says is borrowed directly from advaita vedanta and buddhism. He extorts us to recognise the trap of names and forms, yet walks us into the trap probably inadvertently. Please note, I am not saying he is showing any intellectual dishonesty on purpose. But having watched JK's videos, I cant help seeing the congruence of thoughts and ideas being presented, with different words.
JK's videos convinces me that there are no free thinkers - because there are no free thoughts.
Perhaps he might be using someone's
Yes !bad talk ?gurus a guru is a teacher and a sat guru is a true master that gives grace. the fifth function of the creator.and furthermore no guru ever said they are realized or enlightened .I've never heard any say that do don't listen to Judd he just as ingnorant as his listeners
Last couple lines were the best - "it cannot be achieved. It is there, or it is not there."
Agree, Also when he said that to observe with no direction or motive then there is no conflict was well put to.
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TheJooberjones Yes. We cannot 'Become' THAT which we already ARE.
It is a discovery of that which is, nothing is achieved.
so who gives a ?
Love when he asks "are you following all this" I'm yelling out "YES BroTher!!!!" Im with ya bro!!
bahahahaha I cracked up!
I was 'Yes, Bro' too, then I lost it when he said -
'Violence is fact and Non-violence is non-fact'
It seemed of upmost importance that the recipient grasp his quotation on violence.
I need to understand his quotation on violence for the benefit of myself and others, but his wording here, I'm not able to make of it.
Are you able to help me understand this quote?
Jason Wakefield To explain what enlightenment is, J.K. Cited the example of a hypothetical person who thinks s/he is violent and wants to become non-violent. So violence is a fact for that individual and non-violence is an idea whereas in ultimate reality, there are no opposites, only non duality. Perception is action meaning that once you start observing every single action of yours, violence slowly will start fading away from your life with the power of perception, attention(light). Every single action, word, thought or feeling is an act of violence that intends to harm others or ourselves in any way(JK talked about hate, jealousy etc), so it will be a journey from violence to 0 violence- it’s all one concept, no opposites- same thing on a spectrum. This work is there only to unravel or uncover what is already there, enlightenment in that sense is not a journey in or through time rather peeling off and uncovering what is already always here, which is you, the light, the truth, enlightenment is there if you’ve started observing your own patterns, it’s not there if you’ve not.
Mahakyabje always wants to make sure he and the rest are in the Same Page even though he fully knows they are not.....
Just keep on following him and you will understand what he is talking.
Don't agree or disagree, just observe 💯
You get it 😉
Ha! EXACTLY. ❤
Yeah... 💯💯💯
he disagreed not to observe@@Krishna13847
I'm so happy that I came across teachings of K... I'm not sure whether he would like being termed that way.. Thank you Krishna ji... You live forever.. Thank you...
He referred to himself as "K" :)
@@FreeEnergyTech1 cuz krishna is too much for a white tongue
This idea gives me an incredible sense of comfort when I think about creating art, because it means I could create something now that I could enjoy 30, 40 years from now and others could too if I stick to the truth of what I know
It is agreed that we are not the body, the mind or the intellect ; we are that supreme consciousness, a state of being one without a second, if that is so, to whom is the enlightenment ! The realisation that we are not this body, mind and intellect and bringing it into awareness at every moment of our life, itself is enlightenment !!
this is the first time i heard this, he is great. it makes my eyes water
After experiencing an awakening . I feel a sense of higher awarness and mostly a silent mind. But this comes and goes but the awarness stays but the thing is you don t cling to your thoughts and emotions anymore . It s just you flow like water . You don t identify anymore yourself with the ego. But this needs constant care because in our ordinary life it s easy to be lost in karma again. Anyway life is an illusion you can dream it the way you want to.
I heard a saying in regards to the way it comes and goes, some people worry that when it goes it might not come back, but it is always there. Like at night, when you look up and see the stars and the immense universe, then during the day, you can’t see it anymore, but it’s still there. No need to worry, it will be back.
I agree, modern life, with work, bills, distractions, it can be difficult to maintain the impartial observer, and you might find yourself slipping back into total identification with experience. You know conceptually that it can be different, but the knowing of this doesn’t allow you to regain that internal space. You need to go back to your basic practice of observation, then you can feel what is like to be the observer then, and it will be more likely to be maintained.
For some people, they want to have a small practice at some time in the day, and then continue on normally as they always do. But to those who have awoken this higher awareness, this inner observer which has space from that which it observes, they know they are that, and so continue to do so throughout the day where possible. And when life pulls you in again, to be aware when this has happened, this can help pull you out again. Like you said, care and maintenance is required.
Good luck and be well.
So u EXXXPERINCED awekening???????
We are so fortunate to have these great videos. Truth has a power of it's own.
Fantastic😊. The perception of the fact, which is duality. The violent self, for example, and the non-violent self coexist in the now. The causal relation between both polar images, the film of the violent being pursuing a solution (with all its derived narratives), which is time and space, defines the movement of thought. In essence, there is no causality, no time and no space between the two images, absolutely. Beyond the walls of the bounded reality of thought ("matrix"), both images coexist quantumly.
The detection of that duality is equal to the meeting and annihilation of the opposites, of the particle and the antiparticle. The collision between the two in the now, beyond time, releases an enormous amount of energy (perception-action).
Antimatter has not disappeared... The problem is materialism, the reduction of everything to matter, which is the fruit of the dual observation of thought.
I wish you knew simple English I can't get anything😭
Mindfulness meditation should be the practice that follows JK insights, just observing and not analyzing and its amazing how feelings just are, and dissolves the moment you observe them for a period of time.
Based on my experience, Im working in a project with a friend and I had an internal issue because I didnt like his ideas in an ego perspective. The main problem was the ideal I was chasing, so his idea wasnt good enough under my perspective, so I meditated through. I could ve confronted him and been in a conflict and maybe persuade him to follow my idea but instead of that, I observed the root of my anger and dissatisfaction, and my conflict ended doing that through a period of meditation.
After resolving my issues i realized that you can become and friction free human being, conquering you physical, mental and spiritual/energetic body.
Thats the path. The one that someone is when he stops looking for it. I love paradoxes. All mysteries lay behind a paradox.
“Perception is action, it’s NOT perception followed by an interval and then action happens. Because in that interval you create the IDEA 💡 of YOU doing the action” so nicely put 🙏🏽 this pretty much sums up how the illusion of self and free-will is created when we perceive things with ignorance.
Holdup free will is not an illusion my friend
Edit: oh you meant when we see things with ignorance.. I’m sorry.. see ? I saw your comment with ignorance and I had the illusion you were wrong
Thank you Dear J. krishnamurti ...is so simple...
@12:49 “In that interval you create the idea”
He is really saying time is always now and our ideas and concepts obscures the fact.
K is unique, sane and authentic.
I am a filipno, I am 60 years old now(2024) this is the most beautiful momment10:57 in my life I here Jiddu Khrishnamurti. Oh thank you much that I found this channel. From Philippines, thank you so much.
I was always told this kind sir was weird and hard to perceive, conplicated and frustrating to hear. But its The oposite! His words are só Simple and effective. He is a genius at explaining. Awesome he is
Please explain in not able to get it
Well, through self-knowing you come to understand him, otherwise you don't have contact point with his words. Well, if I may say something I also understand him by involving my mind by visualizing, associating and so on. Be alert.
I love Krishnamurti. Wise, sincere and humble.
His beautiful discourse leads me to comment in this way:
Time by itself avails us of nothing in the way of depth. Time by itself is a collection of experiences within which lies hidden liberating wisdom. The only way to this wisdom is meditation, which is often catalyzed by distress, anguish, suffering.
Meditation is the inward observational and thoughtful process that elicits consciousness, awareness, in the form of epiphanies and insights.
Meditation is the bridge that takes us from experience to oneness, from hell to heaven, from fear to acceptance, being in the moment. Said simply, meditation is the cornerstone of spiritual evolution.
Enlightenment, as I see it then, is to understand how to access the depths within, the inner light, the inner guidance.
When a man says he is humble or compassionate, in relation to the definition of humble or compassionate, he is so. That is only how he could identify that state of being humble or compassionate. From definition one starts with a path in mind and on confirming himself or herself to the definition laid out by Buddha or Krishna or Christ, thoughts deceive itself into attaining that state through time and believe in Nirvana or Holy Father. Wow!
Enlightment and the inner truth of everything cannot be explained, because there is no opposite of it. Something is. It is not determinied by its non existence.
I understand like this.
"Enlightenment is a deep understanding/perception/feeling about everything in the universe/universes"
Enlightenment is that which is when the ignorance ends! When the ignorance isn’t, the other is!
I love the ending: the ultimate thing can never be achieved in time. It is there now or else it is not for many of us.
And when it appears to be not there, it still is there. It is not personal phenomena.
He himself was enlightened, his humility is just what was exceptional and wouldn't let him address himself as enlightened.
I agree with you. And then read the comments with vehement claims that "there is no enlightenment, only realisation" or some such mumbo jumbo, JK's sharp intellect is falling into wrong hands and can hurt like any knife.
That's an ego the humble ego .a enlightened man has no ego
Just look at all these egos in the comments debating with each other 😂
Outstanding. So deep and profound. So marvellous. Perception is action You see something clearly and the action is immediate. Supreme Enlightenment is when the mind is not in conflict, no sense of striving, going,moving,achieving and just the perception of truth, what is without the perceiver.
Moment some one say I am enlightened..They are not 😀 Its very true. As in today's world so called Guru and few others constantly giving ways practices to be enlightened and referring themselves enlightened.
I love how he said "to be enlightened about what?" BTW, Krishnamurti really made my life better. Thank you so much for uploading these videos.
I wonder him for his simplicity and kinder gesture of such precious words...,amidst the people who says them gurus and can't answer anything directly, and everything they preaches with attitude....hats off to you sir, I wonder how people can identify real guide ........I ended up finding ur speech... thank u
What a moment, so glad I get to see this...
"Humility is not the opposite of vanity. When the vanity ends the other is."
Krishna murthy has developed some new vocabulary about life and living, now it's up to us to understand it and feel it in our bones
Enlightenment is realization of we are nothing... Experience of no mind
Changed the speed to 1.5x tempo :D I love reading his books. First time listening. lol.
Cell you suggest me some of his books?
Since we are all stating our concept of enlightenment I'm gonna weigh in too lol Here is the "far out" version: the ability to focus awareness beyond the senses to experience the deepest level of reality that can be interpreted by the mind. Here's the "realistic" version: mindful acknowledgement of thoughts to systematically deconstruct social programming in order to gain intuitive knowledge on existential matters; ie answers to all questions. This term gets put on a pedestal but pretty sure the story of Buddha says he became enlightened after realizing he was the whole time. Therefore actively trying to be enlightened is counter productive. Consider neural plasticity; when you consciously relax your mind the neural connections that comprise your regular thought patterns are weakened making it easier to form new connections. Pair this with the concept of the collective unconscious and also the concept that the brain functions like a radio. Relaxing your consciousness opens the neural pathways which makes your brain capable of receiving an increased range of frequencies. Like putting your radio on "seek" only its not pop culture drivel its cosmic fucking energy!!!
WHY ?
Too hard for me to understand
Vanity is not the opposite of humility. When one ends, the other starts! Word!
Most think it is the removing of the false finite notion of a self. Then some feel great from doing that from which sometimes comes delusion as a self emerges again to acquire the experience. A more wholesome definition would be the removing of the finite notion of self and the finite verbal or image notions of everyone and everything into clear and present infinite actuality. So then a meditation isn't just a no-self/self actualizing solo process but a river that spreads non-limiting whatever consciousness it pervades loosening through space.
Great teaching of Krishnamurti.
Sometime people ask me , how to reach and get enlightenment. Before replying that , I am asking you , if you see a person lost in a city and you approach that person and ask him what is your name and what you are looking for and you looked lost. Then the person will tell you that he lost his way to home. Then you ask him, please tell me what is your address or where do you live ? if you know the address then you will help him to find the place or you will ask someone help. So you are searching for enlightenment and in the same way I am asking from you what is the address ? where do you live ?
the day when people like jk will be taken seriously instead of any film star the all suffering of Mankind will end. MARK MY WORDS
I don't think it's as easy as that at all.
absolutely sir
No, it won't, life is struggle...life without struggle is nothing....it's possible to rise above it while in it...peace is more than the absence of struggle....
What is the most important in life??
Ans: *The most important to understand oneself in life* J.K..sir.
‘’ All the life experiences we go through lifetime after lifetimes, all the self reflection, spiritual practices, self work we do, is for us to develop the human psych into maturity’’.’’ It’s not about walking on water, it isn’t about knowledge beyond measure’’, it is developing the human psych to the point of maturity, that’s when enlightenment naturally happens’’. ‘’It’s doesn’t depend on age, or how tuff ones experience was…. It is a inner growth thing, that’s why it’s called self realization, the self transformation will happen naturally, it all depends on the individual, can take one lifetime, can take many, all up to you and how fast you can and willing to grow spiritually’’. ❤🌎🌸🌺🌼🌹🌷🌷🌸🌺🌼
But Krishnamurti says you wont achieve your goal by what you had written here.
@@emendatus1 He also says not to follow him and make him your guru.. He gives insights based on his experience, you have to walk thru your own experience.. He just wants you to be curious and observe your thoughts and know it completely.. His experience won’t be necessarily yours! He had a razor sharp intellect to not stick to any memory and erase it as it happens and live moment to moment negating everything that he isn’t and what remains is what is.. Not everyone has this gift .. There are many ways to get to truth.. The path of negation was his way!
Finally i get it completely after listening thousands of times.Understand the process there is no person.
If someone punched you in the nose,would it be only the nose that feels the pain?
@@anthonygenovese5338 The physical body will generate a response to the punch. Neurons will fire and will bring about thoughts, feelings, and sensations. Since you have identified those with pain and have also identified with how one responds to pain, one generally responds to that pain. But since you're the awareness that witnesses and observes all these thoughts, feelings, and sensations that project onto the mind, you are capable of not responding to pain in the traditional sense. You can take the monk who lit himself on fire and meditated through the entire thing and didn't flinch. Or the monks who travel high up into the snowy mountains to meditate with wet blankets wrapped around them as a challenge to see who can detach for the longest. It is surely possible, to withstand severe pain and distress, just a matter of who chooses to push it in my opinion.
Просветление - это состояние человека, который стал осознавать Творца, и может напрямую общаться с Творцом. Это состояние, которое достигается только огромной работой по медитации, аскезе, помощи людям, старикам и всем кто нуждается. Это состояние - подарок от Бога, только тем , кто достоин.
What a beautiful spirit.
Thank you to having you JK ❤🙏
Very critical to put into action because whatever he delivered is logically understandable.....
This is exactly correct enlightenment is understanding
Understanding what
Inspiring generation after generation 🙏🏻
Enlightenment is the aura of light that comes from within and cannot be spread like a spoken word because the heart is more powerful than the understanding of the enlightenment. This isn’t supposed to make any sense by the way. But some people will say: oh yes, that makes sense.
You are the only person that answered correctly
I don't know if I understood him but I felt he is talking about to be in the moment and saying about not projecting something else with time and from that moment. Because after all those things are not real whatever we project and we can't see truth maybe I'm not getting it but this person is amazing.
From what I have understood, enlightenment or the common concept of enlightenment from a personal perspective is foremostly attributed to:
the gaining of an understanding, an understanding that with which one may unburden oneself of needless occupation; allowing oneself to be useful.
At last he did not conclude n wonderful exercise given to the listeners amazing
Everyone needs a Dose of Sri J.K. It will Enlighten one from the stupidity of the world
Illumination, this sense of ultimate reality is not of time, perception is action, "not" - perception, great interval and action. In that interval you create the idea. The ultimate thing which is truth is not to be achieved through time, it can never be achieved. It is there or it is not there
From my viewpoint after realizing the true nature of this reality the real work begins
Hahah He was fantastic....! Love you J.
We are so used to view the world through the lenses of our learned ideas and thoughts that we're not able to see it purely. Even the concepts of time and self are learned. To be enlightened is to view everything without the lenses of our mind. You have the access to that truth here and now, but it is in a way hiding below all the thinking your mind is preoccupied with. The mind has gone to an autopilot state where sensory inputs are immediately classified through our thought patterns, and therefore, we are not able to see the world as it is
Such a strong rational thinking and observing the line of thought requires so much effort. Our mind as an adult is filled with noise and images of self. Some times i wonder kids are closer to reaching enlightenment than adults.
i love this man
I was doing this before even hearing about krishnamurti, not because I knew what I was doing, but because I had no chance. When you realize finally that there is nothing you can do but focus on what is there, you will feel a sense of stillness. feelings are facts, thoughts are not. so focus on your feelings because they exist in reality, unlike thoughts which are an illusion.
Krishnamurti has always eschewed the idea of enlightenment, and for a very good reason.
"The essence of what we are cannot become, attain, obtain, or even change, because it is fundamental...There is no enlightenment. It is an idea that is promoted by those who have no experience beyond the self. The self can never be enlightened, and beyond the self is consciousness, which is already whole and therefore cannot become anything, including enlightened. At best, enlightenment is an ideal or a metaphor." - Vic Shayne, author, 13 Pillars of Consciousness
The science of human thinking.the key to put you on the threshold of intelligence
Be the light of your own! My reverence to the great being of love. 🙏🙏🙏
"The pure gem" Lot of respect for him.He is talking about "Advait",the state of mind when you are not you,just dissolved in the truth..
We can always and all experience enlightenment but to be enlightened we must all be.
The consciouness.
The cleanliness of consciouness without object.
Just free consciouness, without space/time, without aims, Just ITSELF.
Pure consciouness: enlightenement!
Its very difficulty to understan can someone please brief about your views on this
My lighter is enlightened....sometimes,
No seriously, do no harm to others and help if you can to make this world a better place. Live life to its fullest every day.
He himself says do not follow people nor systems. So just go your way, be yourself and don't waste your time with gurus,
He is like a maths teacher who's genius at maths himself but most of the students do not understand a thing he's teaching .
To be a good teacher one doesn't have to be genius only good command on the subject and most importantly ability to make your pupils understand what you understand .. He might be great what use is it to me ? I have to find someone who makes it lot simpler .. and help me pass the exam ...
After much time listening to the people I have believed to be enlightened I have concluded that it is something that just happens, that you can't make happen. So be happy. He used to get frustrated because people kept coming to him but were not getting it. It must be lie those magic pictures where suddenly a third dimension os out.
Thank you for sharing ! Thank you for subtitles in romanian ! Namaste ! 🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼🌼
0:49
"Enlightened about what?" and looks wondering and almost confused with such a stupid question😂😂😂
So funny
In short: the "illumination" is or is not, you see or do not see, observe or do not observe. Indeed, observing or seeing is not a matter of time. Time is blindness, darkness. There is light or there is not. Simple as that. If the light in you turns out to be dark, that black will be the night itself.
To reflect ...
Are you trying to say something coherent?
Let's just say, I understood just a percent of what he said. Rest just bounced off because it was not relatable to my experience of life.
youre therefore totally predictable-a program who thinks it can think. Watch more "special K"!
Try observing your own thoughts without judging them, with some space. Just objectively note them when they arise. This is the observer, it has been there the whole time, only it has been attached to that which it observes, it has been lost in experience. You can do this for anything which occurs in your consciousness. You might start with your breath, but you can then expand it to any bodily sensation, any experience. As you observe these experiences, you notice that the observer is something different from them. This creates an “internal space” between the observer (you) and the experiences, which can also be habits, emotions etc.
So you might feel the onset of anger, but catch yourself and observe the feeling arising, and then an instant later, you feel that that feeling is not driving you, not in control of you. There is no suppression of the feeling, only the observation, and by observing, the recognition of space between you and the observed.
You can learn to do this, try it. We can all gain something from this.
@g singh That YOU have to find out😉
Thank you so much!
A great soul. True onto himself.
He states, in various ways, we only need to dissolve the sense of a separate self, by one's complete awareness, absent of a center... 🧘♂️🕉😆
I see so many yes people in comment section
Enlightenment is full control on your emotions and body , and being calm..
Boss of any ideology...... To make it into our level.....by seeing this MASTER....I am learning.
..proud of INDIA
He is Master of words,
Master of experience can be enlightened.
After enlightenment person can grasp more knowledge from the word and doesn't become rude or reluctant to gain knowledge.
The filament of a bulb shine when current I flows from source. So the soul shine through intelligence,
What is my wife other than my image of her?
Are you just a set of habits likes and dislike? Nothing more?
That is your real wife, wake her up😂
ur image of her are just your thoughts, she exists outside of your mind.
Bravo!!! 👏👏👏👏
enlightned is can be temperory state that we can go in to realise true without disturbance.But its hard without practice to stay disturb.it has some courage on this world.
Krishna murti ❤❤❤❤❤ I am listening in 2024 ❤❤❤
I like this man as he’s not trying to sell me something
So what is enlightenment?
It's nothing. Emptyness. Not attracted to emotions and staying in present moment and living the life as it is. It will give you endless amount of joy, energy, blissfulness blah blah..
It's impossible for us to get enlightened. Not trying to be negative, but we can't stay away from our feelings, emotions..
So, what we can do or try to do is something closer to that which in itself will make us and this world a beautiful place.
We can "stay away from our feelings and emotions". A distance is created through Meditation. Stop the blah blah, and start Meditating.You're stuck in your thinking, which is very faulty as thinking goes.
Enlightenment is most fearful word for Materialistic humans. And most dangerous for those who understands it. And useless for enlightened person.
I fall in second category ..
And you???
when u say that u fall in a "category", u are materialistic
Neo Krishna If you comment here you are too materialistic
enlightenment is an experience. Which you will experience after being absolutely still physically as well as mentally.. No one can explain this. Because experience is the ultimate and the only teacher.
Thank you K.
Karuna Bose give me ur phone number.
I don't listen these topic i practice. Jittu Krishnamurthy is telling you theory what is what but to understand this you have to experience Life and death daily.
"I'm humble"... what a wise example 👍
Me tooo. But it getting harder and harder to convince people that I am oh so damn humble.
That's an. Ego a humble ego . I am......the word you add is identifying humble . So you say I am humble ..you must study the principle of ahamkara
Oh...I love him...he speaking the truth.."enlightenment "
Enlightenment is Liberation! 🕉🌹
Wow
If enlightenment is liberation, you have to ask what is liberation. And then you need to ask: But what gets liberated, and does that state already exist, but we are not seeing it. Is it beyond the mind, beyond feeling, beyond the brain? Is it transcendental? Are we not experiencing it because it is very subtle while we are functioning in a very gross way, always demanding stimulation and distraction from what we are, always demanding satisfaction? There is no time involved because it takes place in the moment of seeing it, in letting go of all distractions, all grossness, all desire? Just one moment of total relaxation, just being IT.