After 30 years of commercial mowing in Florida I now know how the clutch works and how to adjust it if necessary. I have seen you around for a long time but today I will also sub. Thanks Mr Taryl👍
You offer a college level power mechanics class wrapped in a bit of humor. You’re a National Treasure for us folks that work on our own stuff but won’t live long enough to figure it out on my own. Well Done Sir.
Taryl, at 71 years of age and being non-mechanically minded, I absolutely enjoy your videos. You are an excellent teacher and very thorough in your explanations. Thank you for your humor and the quality videos you produce! I would be one of those "boneheads" that would come in. The ones that don't have a clue😁. May you continue to be abundantly blessed. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 This is John actually, as Robin is the wifey. Knew you were kidding. I wouldn't want to upset you Sniper-0137. It would not end well for me. brouhaha ha. 😁
When my lawn mower was just out of warranty, I put in a new "Extreme" clutch on Taryl's advice. They are built better, thicker, stronger, and pulleys made out of billet aluminum. I haven't had a problem since. Thanks Taryl..! 😎
Best to keep clutch engaged as much as possible and engage at half speed. The clutch will last much longer as will the bearings as they are not turning when clutch engaged. Avoid on & off as much as possible.
Back in the 80's, I bought a Ariens 28 hp garden tractor. The one-half of the clutch for the rear pto was attached to the output shaft and used a one inch wide canvas type shaft attached to the frame to keep it from spinning. The other half, with the power wire, was attached to the rear implement. At 100 hours and in its first year, the canvas strap broke, which allowed both halves to spin. This caused the power wire to break at the clutch housing with no way to reattach it. I contacted Pete Ariens by mail telling him it was a bad design and should be covered under warranty. His response was that he felt 100 hrs. was sufficient for that to last, and he wouldn't cover it. I responded that I would get rid of it and never buy another Ariens product again. That was 40 years ago, and I've kept my promise.
Taryl, I appreciate your ability to carefully and thoroughly explain the ins and outs of the repair while considering the viewpoint of your audience. We are the students and you are the Master.
I have repaired many of the "unrepairable" ones, many of them have shims in the stack up and they can be changed and removed to effect the engagement and braking of the clutch, that being said once the bearings are shot it's time to buy a new one most of them are staked in. The better clutches that Toro professional and golf equipment have replaceable bearings and I have fixed those also
Is it possible for the clutch to slip? I have a Toro Grandstand the blades dont seem to be spinning fast enough and in thick grass you can tell they slow right down. Could it be slipping? It engages/disengages fine with the switch.
Thanks for the video. I repair ones when possible. When I refurbish one I pop the grease seal on the bearing and add grease or clean out the old grease and add new grease, depending on the old grease. A good overall disassembly, cleaning and greasing has saved many for me.
Great timing Taryl, I just picked up a Zturn with a dead PTO. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet and hoped it's just a bad wire, but if it's not it's probably getting a little worn and won't grab because of the gap. I had an AC clutch doing that in a Jeep I had and I removed a thin spacer washer from that clutch (AC clutch works the same way) and it's still working many years later.
Im pretty much out of the game now , but did outdoor power equipment and yard work off and on quite a few years. I was happy with them and have had good luck with the X-Treme brand of clutches. Built strong and last long. Thanks for doing your vids my man , always interesting.
Hey Taryl, I have been watching your channel since last winter. I have to tell you that although you don’t brag about it but you are a master small engine mechanic. I have acquired a tremendous amount of knowledge from watching you. Plus you are very entertaining with all the fun you guys have in your shop. Thanks for keeping each episode interesting.
You need to run mower engine at top speed in order to keep the charging of battery correct. I have seen some run mower at slower RPMs and burn up the clutch. Battery started getting low on charge. Kinda important to know
My neighbor just asked me if I knew much about the pto clutch on his mower. I told him no, but I told him now I want to know and would surely find a video on your channel. I also told him to check it out and subscribe. Anyways, thank you again Taryl for learning me!
Excellent info Taryl. I build 2stk Gas Bikes. Too bad we couldn't find a Featherable electric clutch. Yup... Different animal. Although...Like Gas bikes this type clutch is engaged or disengaged. no feather. P.T.O... Loved this Vid and info. Thanks!
The electric clutch on my ariens zero turn started engaging violently when the friction material was worn. Snapping belts frequently. Shock load snapped them.
My lawn mower pto would work great at first, turn off and on as it should while still cold. Than when it was hot if you turned the pto off it would not turn on again until it cooled. That would take a long time and i eventually found out i needed to tighten those spring bolts a bit and it worked like a charm. This was a few years ago before i discovered these videos but its great seeing these types of videos. They might help DIY guy and save them the frustration i had.
Thanks, Taryl. My mower just starting having issues where the blades engage intermittently. The PTO clutch on my mower is one of the adjustable ones. I'm definitely going to at least try to this to avoid a $200+ part ONLY expense. There's your dinner!
Maybe do part 2 to discuss the different symptoms when 1 or both bearings sieze. They can be replaced although the SAE ID Metric OD bearings are hard to find.
I used to take them off and convert them to manual engagement by linkage from an older mower and adding an idler pulley and belt guides. I got pretty good at it. I only did it for relatives. I have a few of those electric clutches, still like new. I used to get them at the mower shop in town with the wires torn up from a stick or something getting in the drive belt.
Thanks Taryl! And heads up to all of the Grass Rats-be sure you have a healthy battery on your electric clutch mowers-don't jump a mower with a bad battery-you may burn up the charging system, and burn up the clutch by sending too much current to a bad battery, and not enough to the clutch-and there's your dinner! Oops can I say that?
Taryl , the mag stop clutch in the last 10 years can be adjusted by installing a repair brake shoe kit which closes the gap so less amps are needed to keep the clutch engaged that usually takes care of that style.
You should have mentioned These clutches are also brakes. They not only energize the mower blades, they also bring them to a stop. I've found it easier to adjust Ogura and old-style Warners found on garden tractors by setting the drag in the brake side evenly. I've also found over the years the gap really isn't all that important as some say. If the electro-magnet is in good condition and there is little wear on the shaft hub, it will pull that disc in with an eighth inch gap or more. In fact, the book states to test the magnet, energize it and place a wrench next to it. A good clutch will stick that wrench right to that coil. Keep your fingers from between it. More often than not, I replace those old-style Warners and Ogura's with later style non-adjustable types. They are much better, much cheaper and don't require a feeler gauge to keep them operating.
Hi Daryl, I changed the clutch on my husqvarna about a year ago and I forgot to anchor the clutch plate and it tore out the wires and I ordered another one. I wish I would have seen your video earlier. I am going to look for your video on how to fix the wires, if they get tore out.Great video
I bought Cub Cadet Super Garden tractor in the early 90's. It had an electric PTO clutch. A huge problem with them in that tractor, but they offered a fix/newer one. At least they were honest about it.
Wow! Perfect timing Taryl! I'm repowering my zero-turn and I plan to check the adjustment when I install the old PTO clutch onto the new engine. Quick question... does it matter if the belt is installed and under tension or should I adjust the PTO clutch gap without the belt on? Thanks Taryl. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos and how you share your knowledge and experience in a fun and understandable way. God Bless you brother.
Hey I just came across your videos, I have a john deere ztrak 757 with a GT3 5 MC07 Ogura Clutch I was told to get a new one 😮 after your video on how to test it was just broken wire thank you for saving me $600.00 you're awesome
I think you just answered my question @ 4:28. I have a old Craftsman Rear ride mower that I bought for cheap and am trying to bring back to life (Model 502.270110). Anyways I got it running and unfroze the Transmission so far which were my 2 biggest hurdles. The issue I'm having now is when I push the clutch/brake Pedal Down (on my mower its the same pedal), Turn the Key and start the mower it runs. Then when I attempt to let off the clutch/brake pedal I hear a griding sound when the pedal is almost all the way out. I thought it was the Transmisson at first, but when I had someone else sit on the mower with me looking under sparks appeared to actually be coming from the PTO area. I will have to take off the clutch next to see if it's the same style you mentioned in 4:28. Hope so, so I can try to fix it and move on to the next thig.
Love the video's. I do have a question. What program do you use for your customers? I use job orders that are hand written. I'm looking for something to store my regulars info and what the buy. THANK YOU for your time.
Those clutches on the older ('85-'86) Snapper LT tractors with the B&S motors will literally bake the bearing closest to the motor. I always removed the clutch, popped the seals & repacked 'em with hi-temp grease.
My clutch is rusted onto the crankshaft. I got the transmission belt replaced without removing the clutch. Some day I will need to remove it, I’ll figure it out then. Great video.
That's the same with Ford ac compressors up to the 2006 I know. Those they have shims added when manufacturers, and after they get some wear on them they'll release the clutch same as you're speaking of. Ford calls it setting the air gap between the magnetic coil, and the clutch face.. But same thing just different use if magnetic clutch lockup.
And none of them are cheap! The one in my Cub Cadet 1650, drives the hydraulic pump for the Work-Horse front-end loader that's mounted on it. About $175 to replace it. Pays to keep it adjusted to prevent slippage and accelerated wear.
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Great video as usual you might mention that some clutches run clockwise and some run counterclockwise
@@spiffy830 .What difference does it make, Taryl is talking about adjusting clutches not direction. CW or CCW , what difference does it make?
After 30 years of commercial mowing in Florida I now know how the clutch works and how to adjust it if necessary.
I have seen you around for a long time but today I will also sub. Thanks Mr Taryl👍
You offer a college level power mechanics class wrapped in a bit of humor. You’re a National Treasure for us folks that work on our own stuff but won’t live long enough to figure it out on my own. Well Done Sir.
Taryl, at 71 years of age and being non-mechanically minded, I absolutely enjoy your videos. You are an excellent teacher and very thorough in your explanations. Thank you for your humor and the quality videos you produce! I would be one of those "boneheads" that would come in. The ones that don't have a clue😁. May you continue to be abundantly blessed. John here, from the back-roads of Northeastern Tennessee.
He makes me wanna do small engine repairs. I like this kind of work.
DAD?? Is that you??????
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 😅🤣😂As far as I know, no. I am a Submarine Sailor so I suppose it could be....a Sub-Marine😁. Hope all is well with you. Take care.
@@robinredman5192 I'm 62 and kiddin' Hope life is great for you always as well sir! OHHHHHRAHHH!
@@USMC-Sniper-0137 This is John actually, as Robin is the wifey. Knew you were kidding. I wouldn't want to upset you Sniper-0137. It would not end well for me. brouhaha ha. 😁
When my lawn mower was just out of warranty, I put in a new "Extreme" clutch on Taryl's advice. They are built better, thicker, stronger, and pulleys made out of billet aluminum. I haven't had a problem since. Thanks Taryl..! 😎
Best to keep clutch engaged as much as possible and engage at half speed. The clutch will last much longer as will the bearings as they are not turning when clutch engaged. Avoid on & off as much as possible.
@@donaldbracciano832 A lot of zero turn mowers shut the blades off everytime you throw it in reverse tho automatically.
@@brnmcc01 un plug the switch
Converted mine to cable operated idler pulley, JD F935, 76" deck . Now smooth engagement and no overheating clutches to disengage👍
I’d rather have a steel pulley because if you mow sandy areas a lot, it can wear the pulley out in the v groove
Back in the 80's, I bought a Ariens 28 hp garden tractor. The one-half of the clutch for the rear pto was attached to the output shaft and used a one inch wide canvas type shaft attached to the frame to keep it from spinning. The other half, with the power wire, was attached to the rear implement. At 100 hours and in its first year, the canvas strap broke, which allowed both halves to spin. This caused the power wire to break at the clutch housing with no way to reattach it. I contacted Pete Ariens by mail telling him it was a bad design and should be covered under warranty. His response was that he felt 100 hrs. was sufficient for that to last, and he wouldn't cover it. I responded that I would get rid of it and never buy another Ariens product again. That was 40 years ago, and I've kept my promise.
Taryl, I appreciate your ability to carefully and thoroughly explain the ins and outs of the repair while considering the viewpoint of your audience. We are the students and you are the Master.
I have repaired many of the "unrepairable" ones, many of them have shims in the stack up and they can be changed and removed to effect the engagement and braking of the clutch, that being said once the bearings are shot it's time to buy a new one most of them are staked in. The better clutches that Toro professional and golf equipment have replaceable bearings and I have fixed those also
I’ve replaced staked in bearings many times. It’s really not that hard to do. Way cheaper than a new clutch.
@@notajp yeah not impossible but you fight the time vs cost of new parts .
Is it possible for the clutch to slip? I have a Toro Grandstand the blades dont seem to be spinning fast enough and in thick grass you can tell they slow right down. Could it be slipping? It engages/disengages fine with the switch.
Great information Taryl
Thank you for sharing. I get educated every time I watch your videos. Thanks for not keeping it to yourself.👍
Great video.
Very informative
We keep the air gaps checked in ours and make sure there’s no oil leaks that’ll ruin em.
IF you take the clutch off the crank shaft you have make sure you put the spacer back on the right way . Great video .
Thanks for the video. I repair ones when possible. When I refurbish one I pop the grease seal on the bearing and add grease or clean out the old grease and add new grease, depending on the old grease. A good overall disassembly, cleaning and greasing has saved many for me.
Great timing Taryl, I just picked up a Zturn with a dead PTO. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet and hoped it's just a bad wire, but if it's not it's probably getting a little worn and won't grab because of the gap. I had an AC clutch doing that in a Jeep I had and I removed a thin spacer washer from that clutch (AC clutch works the same way) and it's still working many years later.
You left out the best part, how to fix torn off wires from the clutch... I learned how to fix that in one of your older videos! Great stuff taryl!
Im pretty much out of the game now , but did outdoor power equipment and yard work off and on quite a few years. I was happy with them and have had good luck with the X-Treme brand of clutches. Built strong and last long. Thanks for doing your vids my man , always interesting.
Yep, highly recommend the Xtreme clutches. And your can usually buy them cheaper than the OEM replacement.
Another informative video, keep them coming many of us appreciate the easy to understand way you pass along your knowledge. Cheers.
Hey Taryl,
I have been watching your channel since last winter. I have to tell you that although you don’t brag about it but you are a master small engine mechanic. I have acquired a tremendous amount of knowledge from watching you. Plus you are very entertaining with all the fun you guys have in your shop.
Thanks for keeping each episode interesting.
Thank you for this helpful video Taryl
Thanks for the video Taryl.
Another GREAT video Taryl!
Good explanation of how they work.
You need to run mower engine at top speed in order to keep the charging of battery correct. I have seen some run mower at slower RPMs and burn up the clutch. Battery started getting low on charge. Kinda important to know
Great video on explaining the pto clutch, Thanks.
Thanks for the education on the electric clutches. Learned a lot I did not know.
My neighbor just asked me if I knew much about the pto clutch on his mower. I told him no, but I told him now I want to know and would surely find a video on your channel. I also told him to check it out and subscribe. Anyways, thank you again Taryl for learning me!
Thank you for this Daryl, that was a good insight on.I've never got to mess with the electric clutch yet
Excellent info Taryl. I build 2stk Gas Bikes. Too bad we couldn't find a Featherable electric clutch. Yup... Different animal. Although...Like Gas bikes this type clutch is engaged or disengaged. no feather. P.T.O... Loved this Vid and info. Thanks!
The electric clutch on my ariens zero turn started engaging violently when the friction material was worn. Snapping belts frequently. Shock load snapped them.
Thank you for this video !!
great bit of information.
My lawn mower pto would work great at first, turn off and on as it should while still cold. Than when it was hot if you turned the pto off it would not turn on again until it cooled. That would take a long time and i eventually found out i needed to tighten those spring bolts a bit and it worked like a charm. This was a few years ago before i discovered these videos but its great seeing these types of videos. They might help DIY guy and save them the frustration i had.
Thanks, Taryl.
My mower just starting having issues where the blades engage intermittently. The PTO clutch on my mower is one of the adjustable ones. I'm definitely going to at least try to this to avoid a $200+ part ONLY expense.
There's your dinner!
Maybe do part 2 to discuss the different symptoms when 1 or both bearings sieze. They can be replaced although the SAE ID Metric OD bearings are hard to find.
That's useful info. Thanks again Taryl. 👍
My son was cleaning and adjusting PTO clutches on bowling pin machines last week
Do they look like this
Taryl thanks for the talk through!
Great explanation! You're a great teacher!
This is all good stuff and thanks to this maniac for sharing his knowledge its kind of him to do so and never ever forget that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to take them off and convert them to manual engagement by linkage from an older mower and adding an idler pulley and belt guides. I got pretty good at it. I only did it for relatives. I have a few of those electric clutches, still like new. I used to get them at the mower shop in town with the wires torn up from a stick or something getting in the drive belt.
Thanks, great video
Thank you for your knowledge and expertise i just bought a zero turn with an electric pto clutch and was curious about how it worked .
Thank you for another excellent lesson. Respect from here in UK.
Fantastic information! Thank You!
Lots of good info here 🙌
Very interesting on how you explain clutches electric ones good video Keep Em Up
Thanks Taryl! And heads up to all of the Grass Rats-be sure you have a healthy battery on your electric clutch mowers-don't jump a mower with a bad battery-you may burn up the charging system, and burn up the clutch by sending too much current to a bad battery, and not enough to the clutch-and there's your dinner! Oops can I say that?
Good information Taryl. I learned something new about that. I appreciate ya'.
Taryl , the mag stop clutch in the last 10 years can be adjusted by installing a repair brake shoe kit which closes the gap so less amps are needed to keep the clutch engaged that usually takes care of that style.
Very informative video sir. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
You should have mentioned These clutches are also brakes. They not only energize the mower blades, they also bring them to a stop. I've found it easier to adjust Ogura and old-style Warners found on garden tractors by setting the drag in the brake side evenly. I've also found over the years the gap really isn't all that important as some say. If the electro-magnet is in good condition and there is little wear on the shaft hub, it will pull that disc in with an eighth inch gap or more. In fact, the book states to test the magnet, energize it and place a wrench next to it. A good clutch will stick that wrench right to that coil. Keep your fingers from between it. More often than not, I replace those old-style Warners and Ogura's with later style non-adjustable types. They are much better, much cheaper and don't require a feeler gauge to keep them operating.
Very interesting video!
Hi Daryl, I changed the clutch on my husqvarna about a year ago and I forgot to anchor the clutch plate and it tore out the wires and I ordered another one. I wish I would have seen your video earlier. I am going to look for your video on how to fix the wires, if they get tore out.Great video
I bought Cub Cadet Super Garden tractor in the early 90's. It had an electric PTO clutch. A huge problem with them in that tractor, but they offered a fix/newer one. At least they were honest about it.
This video is awesome.
What a timely video.
Great advise.
My friend at Werner Clutch said burnishing is very important that is turning the clutch on and off 10 times at full throttle 😊
Of course that’s what the clutch salesman says. Lol
@@fastinradfordable worked for me zero problems now
Worked for me
Thanks Taryl.
The aftermarket has made replacement of the non reparable ones quite affordable, I have not seen a lot of problems with the aftermarket ones either
Thumbs up,great video
Best channel ever !
Your shirts are always very clean, first time I ever saw anything on it, luckily it brushed right off.
about the same as a cars a/c unit
Thank you you did explain
Same device as automotive AC compressor clutches Thanks for the video.
I like these tech Thursdays videos taryl…. I’d like to see one on spindle bearings next 👍👍👍
This was a good tip I Learn something today something new which I never knew before no I know❤
Wow! Perfect timing Taryl! I'm repowering my zero-turn and I plan to check the adjustment when I install the old PTO clutch onto the new engine.
Quick question... does it matter if the belt is installed and under tension or should I adjust the PTO clutch gap without the belt on?
Thanks Taryl. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos and how you share your knowledge and experience in a fun and understandable way.
God Bless you brother.
Hey I just came across your videos, I have a john deere ztrak 757 with a GT3 5 MC07 Ogura Clutch I was told to get a new one 😮 after your video on how to test it was just broken wire thank you for saving me $600.00 you're awesome
Thanks for the education Taryl!!
now I have knowledge that I didn't have yesterday.........thanks for the knowledge.........
Thanks
Had a fixed one that wouldn't start after deep grass cutting and I was able to clean it out with compressed air and that was all it needed.
Thank you for sharing, i lear a lot 👍👍👍👍
I think you just answered my question @ 4:28. I have a old Craftsman Rear ride mower that I bought for cheap and am trying to bring back to life (Model 502.270110). Anyways I got it running and unfroze the Transmission so far which were my 2 biggest hurdles. The issue I'm having now is when I push the clutch/brake Pedal Down (on my mower its the same pedal), Turn the Key and start the mower it runs. Then when I attempt to let off the clutch/brake pedal I hear a griding sound when the pedal is almost all the way out. I thought it was the Transmisson at first, but when I had someone else sit on the mower with me looking under sparks appeared to actually be coming from the PTO area.
I will have to take off the clutch next to see if it's the same style you mentioned in 4:28. Hope so, so
I can try to fix it and move on to the next thig.
Thanks, now I know what to look for and how it works, just like an a/c compressor clutch.
Great video. Thank you.
Like old AC pulley mag clutches. Hang for ur vids man, always informative and often a good laugh. Hi from Australia.
Love the video's. I do have a question. What program do you use for your customers? I use job orders that are hand written. I'm looking for something to store my regulars info and what the buy. THANK YOU for your time.
need to check my drive clutch,not easy stuff Taryl fix all 😉
Iv had a extreme torq brand one on my airens grand siera it's been on it over 4 years so far doing good
Those clutches on the older ('85-'86) Snapper LT tractors with the B&S motors will literally bake the bearing closest to the motor. I always removed the clutch, popped the seals & repacked 'em with hi-temp grease.
Yes, and those Clutches are nearly identical to the Air Conditioner Compressor Clutch on your Automobiles. Works & looks exactly the same way.
Thanks for making this easily understandable and its good to know that they are not just full of mysterious non-understandable magic pixies
Great video
Thankyou!!!
Well done!
My clutch is rusted onto the crankshaft. I got the transmission belt replaced without removing the clutch. Some day I will need to remove it, I’ll figure it out then. Great video.
Thanks!
I'm just curious...on riding mowers, manual blades engaging or PTO... What's better? If one is better then the other...
I have rewound one of those.
I thought you might mention the best engine rpm to engage the clutch. Or if it would matter. I do about half throttle.
That's the same with Ford ac compressors up to the 2006 I know.
Those they have shims added when manufacturers, and after they get some wear on them they'll release the clutch same as you're speaking of.
Ford calls it setting the air gap between the magnetic coil, and the clutch face..
But same thing just different use if magnetic clutch lockup.
Thanks a million man, great information as my dad has wasted hundreds of dollars replacing these POS things.
Thank you Taryl. Bob
mine is adjustable, thanks!
And none of them are cheap! The one in my Cub Cadet 1650, drives the hydraulic pump for the Work-Horse front-end loader that's mounted on it. About $175 to replace it. Pays to keep it adjusted to prevent slippage and accelerated wear.
Are rebuild kits available for the adjustable clutches?
Wow thanks so much Bro
Taryl, do you have any 80's-90's Snapper blade brake clutches for the 21" walk behind laying around. Hard to find.
Great video 👍
The exact problem I’m having thx😃👍🏿