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@rockybrenner.....I tend to agree, but considering that probably most of us reading these comments have a good idea of whom you speak, it probably could have been said a little more....civilly. "AND THERE'S YOUR DINNER! " lol
Thanks for the tutorial and tip on where to purchase. JD 717a Z mower (2005) Pulley wear out. PTO Clutch is where to go to purchase. Saved me a ton of money.
Great information-Thank You! Have had PTO bearings replaced once two years ago, now having the same issue and considered having service again at $200. However, you shared the Warner Direct info, I decided I would replace with new at $200, saving $300 if purchased from local supply house. New Subscriber
Absolute genius. You mentioned in passing that the charging system could cause the PTO clutch not to engage, but still let the engine operate, and that was it! Thank you. You saved me untold hours of trying to debug the problem. BTW... I have a Husqvarna riding mower with a dead battery that I jumped to get it started. As you said, it was enough voltage to keep the engine running, but not enough to engage the clutch.
I have a cub cadet 46rzt that intermittently when I pull the PTO switch either the blades are slow to engage(meaning they start slow and work up to full speed), don't engage, or engage properly. I have notable squealing or noise. Not sure where to start. Any ideas? Could it be a belt issue? @@Mechanical_Mind
@plbjr123 I would guess you have a clutch/pto issue. First disconnect the the deck belt and check each spindle and idler for bearing issues. Remove the clutch and feel the bearings. I bet you have a clutch with vad bearings
Every time a customer says, "It just needs a new pto switch," I say, "I hope so, but it's most likely not the switch." Then, to keep them from accusing us of lying, I go show the customer in person clear evidence of clutch or wiring harness damage. That makes the bad news easier for them to accept and approve the quoted repair. Sometimes, they can't accept the facts, and I'll even install a new switch right there in front of them to prove that the switch is not the issue.
Another quick way to remove it is to first, like you said, tighten then loosen the bolt. Then with the bolt loose start the engine while the friction releases and drops the clutch. Works every time for me.
Thanks for the info. 96 Simplicity with an older battery. Troubleshot the system and didn't know about current draw of PTO. Recharged battery and all's good. I have more work to do but at least I'm not throwing money at the wrong parts. Thanks again!
Thank you very much for the information. I have a Ztrack 335E and the blades just quit working right in the middle of me mowing last night. I foolishly wasted 440 on a PTO switch. I am going to try to pull the clutch and see check things out. I will also test the charging system, as that seems to match what you were talking about as a possible cause.
Thank you very much for the video explanation of how to fix clutch problems with my lawn tractor. I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly. Thanks again
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I'm not sure but I believe you just hit the nail on the head it's brand new battery and I've been having to jump it off and I just finished mowing my lawn and and the PT shut off and I think you're right kind of a relief but now I got to figure out why my charging system ain't working LOL
Hey Bobby, a bad battery or charging system issue is a very common issue I see when customers think it's a clutch or pto switch issue. Here is a video I made on how to check your mower's charging system ruclips.net/video/Xj1w8dWxapI/видео.html
I have a gravely 460, 13 years old runs like a tank. Guy told me when I bought it to always engage the PTO at the lowest engine speed and disengage at the lowest engine speed In order to make the PTO last. I have not had any issue until yesterday check the relays check the fuses, check the switch all checked good with ohm meter. I also got off the seat while the PTO switch was engaged and the mower died that revealed that the circuit was good. That kind of pointed me straight to the clutch/PTO. I needed something heavy for the seat switch so I put my toolbag on the seat which kept the seat switch Activated, And I pulled the PTO switch to engage the PTO Then I went around back and hit the PTO with a hammer And presto it started running Like I said earlier I ohmed out the PTO it tested good and the relays and the fuses and the switch. The PTO is pushing 13 years and still running. Probably getting really close to changing it though Hope this helped
Good video My John Deer F 725 PTO doesn't release and the blades keep turning I guess the bearings are bad . Im going to pull off the PTO after you showed Me how . Thanks
Clutch was intemittently working/not working on my 460 propane Gravely. I found out that the "gap" needed adjustment. Just like the clutch on a vehicle AC compressor it has to have the propper air gap to work properly.
My issue is 99% it is not holding battery. I jump start with the car and after sometime I see the numbers on the dashboard fading down and then the blades desingage. I am going to see your next video of charging system. Thanks buddy.
Most of the time its a bad voltage regulator. Your battery may also need to be replaced if its been drained down too many times but it sounds like yout battery is ok and just your charging system is bad. In the other video I show how to check if its voltage regulator or the stator
I had a z900 series come in shop about 2 weeks ago and ticket said starter solenoid. I tested everything and bench tested the starter everything tested good. I tried to see If I could rotate the clutch and it would freeze up. It seemed like it took me forever to to get that clutch off. Immediately able to see that it was the problem it was burnt up and locked up causing a no start situation. It would start up no problem with clutch removed. Still waiting on part. Seems to be a shortage on pto clutches in our area. We've had a lot of clutches lately coming in bad. Good video.
The clutch having worn bearings can cause starting issues. That 636M in this video was having a hard time starting because of the worn clutch bearings. At first I thought it had stripped the starters gear teeth. I should have mentioned that in this video.
@@Mechanical_Mind yes I work for trigreen. The store I'm at was at one time ag-pro then trigreen bought them out. I've been there since end of September this year.
@@mickeyhurst4648 Cool deal. Do you guys work on many commercial mowers? Ive never seen so many commercial mowers until I moved to Florida. Im near Orlando which has a bunch of resorts, Disney & Universal. Plus tons of rich, famous people and retirees. None of which are cutting their own grass. I guess that is why there are so many commercial landscapers here. Plus the grass grows here all year round. Commercial mowers and gators are 90% of what we work on at my dealership. Dealerships 100 miles north of us work mostly on tractors.
@@Mechanical_Mind we work on alot of commercial mowers and residential. We get alot of tractors and gators in too. I usually do the pdi coming in. working on residential and commercial mowers as well as gators. Im still trying to get familiar with everything that is out there there is so many models. It's all new to me still. I worked on military vehicles for 14 years so changing over was a big change. I discovered your channel trying to get familiar with John deere products before I started and have noticed that your videos is very valuable and on point with issues bc I have came across alot of what you are getting out there to people to look out for. We are located in alabama
Good video. Have a Toro 228D with a seized clutch (can't turn off the mower blades). Looks like I need to remove the clutch which probably has bad bearings.
@@Mechanical_Mind I removed the double drive belt to disable the blades and began prepping the shaft/clutch with penetrating oil. Going to let the baste, a spell.
DIAGNOSING ALERT. My deck was making a god-awful screeching and clicking noise when the blades were engaged (more on the right side). Everything… spindle, idlers, etc seemed tight. Took off clutch and it appeared fine. Installed new spindle. Still making noise. Replaced new idler. Still making noise. Finally took off clutch again and disassembled. Plates appeared scored. MUST be the clutch. After replacing with new clutch…STILL making noise. $hit…. Turns out it was the metal cup just above the blade that keeps debris out of the bearing that wore loose and spinning. Probably due to mixing and matching different parts from different spare spindles there was a bit of play. Wedged a bit of twine around it (yeah, its Macgyvered) to snug it up and back to normal. Just something to keep in mind.
i got a 2009 mitsubishi lancer (manual). almost 6 months ago i had no clutch at all gears wouldnt shift got the point after trying the car wouldnt turn on, called up a mobile house mechanic he said your going to need a new car or otherwise up to $2,000 or more.....decided to tow it to the family mechanic...he said the same but he can still have a look to see what parts i need. called me couple of hours later said all he did was tighten all the screws put a bit of clutch fluid in & its working no charge..drove it home 4/5 weeks later i was at the petrol station filling up & it done it again, petrol station manager walked out with a screwdriver tightened something & it worked fine for the next 6 months...yesterday it started doing it again...i got no idea what they could of tightened up
Thank for this! My Bad Boy doesn’t do anything when I pull the switch. Makes no noise, effort or anything. I already bought a new switch. That wasn’t it 😂.
Your video was very thorough an I have similar issues with my Z930m machine. Purchased used from a local lawn care guy, he had no Operations Manual for the machine, so lots of things I try to troubleshoot an/or fix myself. That is if I can see physical damage on parts that I can replace. My issue that I have experienced recently after having my machine worked on by someone that found and corrected an issue I was having for over a year now, was that while I was mowing my place, I would have to change batteries sometimes 3 or more times to cut the acreage that I maintain. He changed my clutch, repaired my wiring harness, and replaced PTO switch. Machine worked perfectly my first cutting. I cut again yesterday and machine would often lose power to the clutch and blades would shut down. Sometimes it would just be the blades to disengage, several times it would shut the motor down too. Any suggestions as to what could possibly cause this ISSUE? THANKS in advance for any info you could shed a bit of light on!!!! I haven't Subscribed as of yet, but keep up the work on supplying videos.
Hey Louis, it sounds like your mowers charging system is not working. The pto clutch needs constant amp draw from the battery. So when the battery gets too weak, the first thing to stop working is the pto clutch / blades stop. I did a video on how to diagnose the charging system. ruclips.net/video/Xj1w8dWxapI/видео.htmlsi=iZX_YceI70QL3vgt
So I've got a zt1 fifty inch deck. PTO clutch fell out the bottom of it while I was mowing. PTO clutch laying on the ground bolt sheered off inside engine drive. Nothing would take it out. I had to drill into the drive and weld a piece of all thread into the drive. Slide my new PTO clutch on the threads, with the washer that comes with the clutch. I used it and snugged a nut up holding it in place firm. My issue now remains, the PTO clutch has a lot of vibration going on. The pulley is turning flat so I know it's not due to a warped drive. It's the top half of the clutch. I guess the magnetic part it's just rattling.
I tried it once and the blades engaged right off I mowed maybe 25 feet and blades disengaged. I thought wow the PTO just completely died. Looked at it PTO clutch still firm in place, but the top half of the clutch has rattled so much it was under the metal braket.. only way to explain is there is like a key slot fork like prong, and then a flat bracket piece that seems to be missing something. Just has 2 holes.
So I bolted a piece of flat steel so that if it catches more than 1/16 of an inch vibration, the PTO clutches forked prong doesn't slip passed the bracket mounted on the bottom of the mower.
I have a 2010 z920a. Unknown hours. It’s recently started to make a loud rattling noise when the PTO is off, RPMs up. When the PTO is engaged, the rattling is gone. I’m guessing it’s the PTO, but it doesn’t feel loose at all.
First off, very informative video. Second, I hope I can find an answer soon. I have a Z254F Husqvarna 54 inch cut mower. The other day I was starting to cut my grass when the deck belt through. Its a little stretched so I figure I will just get a new one. I put it on the pto engaged blade pulley spin but its not really cutting. Put new blades on it and still not cutting. Im lost, pto is on mower runs fine, spindles are spinning. Its just not cutting. PLEASE, ANY SUGGESTIONS?
Hey David, I would check each pulley and spindle individually with the belt removed. Spin each one and carefully listen and feel for rough bearings. Check for play or slack in the bearings of the spindle and pulleys that would let the belt pulleys to tilt or move. I bet you have one that had become too hard to rotate and slowing down the belt. I bet that is what caused the belt to jump off the first time. The spindles might still be spinning but not at full speed.
A great info. Jhon deere and cube Cadet are mowers you wanna stay away for owning. Constant issues. I know mower need to be serviced but those come out of the box already junk.
Too bad; my issue is my blades are always on… I’m going to check if I have always power at the clutch, if not, try to unstuck the clutch with a lubricant anti rust…
Really helpful video! I’m trying to take the clutch off a JD 661R to replace the drive belt but the 16mm clutch bolt just spins when I try to take it off, what needs to be done to stop it from free spinning? The pulley does not spin with it unless I apply pressure to the clutch w a pry bar but I don’t wanna break it bc it seems to be working fine. Thanks!
First time viewer. I decided to check your video out being that you talked about ways to remove stubborn clutches. My clutch came off on this very old yazoo keys. I've never seen one of these. So I have the clutch removed and I'm afraid that this adjustable clutch is very locked up. Very hard to spin free hand.
What would cause blades to come on when I engage the pto switch ? but when I go to turn blades on they semi disengage but not fully. Thanks! Cheer, Great video!
Your clutch must not be fully disengaging for some reason. Inside the clutch is a large magnet above the friction plates. So when the magnet is not actived the plates should separate. My guess would be there is some type of physical damage not allowing the plates to fully separate OR the plates have gotten really hot and they are sticking together. Bad bearings can cause extreme heat and you will have to replace the entire clutch. There also some springs on one one the friction plates and they sometimes get messed up or come loose. You can get a new Warner clutch from PTO direct.com for much less $$.
JD 915B when clutch engages it seems to be putting excess strain on engine and rpm not as high as it should be. This mower has a 60” deck swapped by the dealer when purchased 10 years ago. May have added stress to the clutch. 648hrs on the machine. Do you think it is the bearings or worn out clutch that I should just replace? Great video!
Oh man I’m having a hard time, took of the old clutch but now the screw won’t fit, the shaft is all messed up I wanted to put on a new screw a little bigger but threatening its so complicated in this position I’m about to weld a whole stud on but things are getting complicated
I notice when I disengage my blade clutch on my 2013 SR130 Country Clipper there's an approximate 3 second delay, It use to be Instantaneous. Any Ideas what's causing It? Thanks for the Informative video.
@@Mechanical_Mind Just to give you and update...with all the video's I watched, yours was the only one that mentioned going through a hole above to tap on the clutch. I used a crowbar and a 9-lb maul hammer. In about 5 minutes the clutch was off. The crowbar worked better than a round steel bar because of the flat wide shape of the tip and the bend at the end. Now all I have to do is find a way to get the pulley off. Thanks again for the help.
hiya, thanks for sharing your wisdom in this video, lots of great tricks and hints. but a question.. why are the main bearings above the pto clutch no lubeable or set up with a lube tube with say a high temp lube oil thats thick but drippable, seems crazy they arent lubable in some way. surely most would wear out well before the two year warranties finish
Thanks for the nice comment. You would need to ask Warner, the clutch manufacturer about the bearing design. I do see many of them burn up before the warranty goes out. I often see them go out as low as 600 hours on units with 1200 hr warranties
Hm mine is slow to Engage the blades it takes awhile to spin them up and it almost kills the lawnmower a lot more than usual it’s a craftsman t3200 husqvarna made lawn tractor.. I took off the deck and cleaned it everything seems good deck seems good and plenty of tension I recently had rebuilt the carb I replaced the voltage regulator aswell and it has a new battery 😅 not sure maybe something wrong with pto clutch
That will happen if the bearings in the clutch are bad. They get harder to start turning. I'd remove the clutch and feel the the bearings. I've also seen were debris, like metal wire from a fence, can get caught in the clutch causing issues. If the deck belt is wet, that also will cause a delay in bringing the deck spindles up to speed.
What is the problem when your blades won't turn all the way off?? After turning the PTO switch off the blades still spin about 500 to 1000 rpm or so and never quit. Turn the switch back on and the blades are back to full speed and turn the switch back off and they are low speed again but won't never completely quit spinning.
My mower won't turn over, just clicks. I have changed EVERYTHING (battery is new); safety switches, solenoid, carburetor, voltage regulator, start switch, PTO switch, fuses, relays etc. Only thing left is the PTO. But I'm not sure if that would cause this problem? Wiring harness is fine and I have a good ground. Any help would greatly be appreciated!
When the clutchs go bad, they can lock up and prevent the crankshaft from spinning. Did you remove the spark plugs and try to rotate the engine over? Sometimes, they can lock up from gasoline leaking into and filling the cylinder. The piston can't compress liquid gasoline. If you remove the spark plugs that will allow any fluid trapped (gas/oil/coolant) to be able to escape.
Sweet tips thank you. I have a z920m. How long do you those style clutches lasting? I’m at 900 hours now. Your video makes me confident I can do it myself. 👍🏼
Thanks docoolstuff! Ive seen them go out as earlry as 400 hours but Id guess the average is around 1000 hours from my experience. They are easy to replace and Im sure you can handle it. The hardest problem (that sometimes happens) is if the bolt breaks off inside the crankshaft. That can turn an easy job into a nighmare.
Love all your videos. Extremely helpful. Quick question... I have a John Deere Z330R. What is the torque specification for the bolt that attaches the PTO clutch to the crankshaft? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks in advance for your help.
Random question, I got old lx277 like 1200 hours, just started having pto issues I'm pretty handy so ... I'll try the battery deal but!! When mowing for like 30 min seems like blades just cut off and all I got do is get off wiggle the blades and it comes back on?? Any ideas????
I betting the clutch is getting too hot from worn bearings. That just a gues. Even if I had the mower here in person I would need to inspect it closely to find the issue. I'd remove the clutch and inspect it for signs of damage
What's it mean after you've been running the mower and everything has been working fine but once you turn the PTO off and you try to turn it back on when it's hot it won't re-engage until it's had cool down time
I would not be surprise if your clutch is about to fail completely from overheating. Which is most likely being caused by worn or damaged bearings. I would remove the clutch and inspect it.
I have a John Deere 160 lawn tractor 80s model. The belt from the pto broke but I noticed it was real hot the pto was real hot I guess it melted the belt. I checked pulleys they spin easy I guess I have a bad Pto clutch getting hot what do you think.
Man at 13:50 it was supposed to be the best explanation video of all time answering everyone's questions and covering every possible situation. I guess it cut out....
I have a 1993 white gt 180. My pto only engages when i jam the switch all the way up. Ive tried 3 new switches but they dont work at all. Is this a ground issue?
I doubt anyone knows... but installed a pto clutch on a cub cadet, aftermarket not Warner, it caught fire! apparently it still works but i wasn't there to see what exactly occurred thoughts? dried and tall grass? it was getting broken in so extra heat being generated...
I have a JD LA115. With the pto lever engaged, the blades Will intermittently disengage and then re engage. I replaced the belt; which is extremely loose by the way, and it is the correct belt. What could be causing this to happen?
I have a Craftsman riding mower that has an electronic clutch. While I was mowing, the engine stalled, I automatically disengaged the blade, and the engine started up. I engaged the clutch a couple of times to verify, it shut the engine off every time. I never heard anything like bearings making noise. I would appreciate any insight into my situation. Thank you. Greg
I have a 2008 Dixie Chopper Xcaliber, just replaced the T-Box and all that is good but my clutch now is only partially engaged driving in a straight line but if I turn/spin the mower it will fully engage. I am currently charging the battery per your video and other comments for this video, any ideas outside the battery not being charged well I can check? It was engaging fine prior to me replacing the T-Box. Stop bolt is fine, not broken or anything unusual with it.
@@Mechanical_Mind Thanks for the reply. Have craftsman Z6000. "Something" started occaisionly squeling and it would slow down and speed up, run ok for a bit and repeat, First thought was the belt and it was rather loose and glazed over so we changed it. Motor starts up fine, blades run just fine but when I engage the arms, absolutely nothing. I'd think you would some sort of click or "something". I did have to fill hydraulic oil on one side. Disabled the seat safety switch.Quadrupled checked to make sure new belt is installed right. When you mentioned the clutch screaming and squaling I thought "Ah Ha!" I've been banging my head on the back bumper and about to run screaming and squalering away.
I've got an x500 that i thought the engine was seized and it's starting to seem like the PTO clutch is the issue. Worked in some wd40 to the PTO after watching this and finally got the engine to turn over. Now when i engage the PTO the engine is killed? I guess that kind of sounds like the crankshaft bolt is seizing to the pto?
Hi my friend my bolens tractor makes noise went engaging but work sound like belt but belt are new how to check if is clutch? I like you video please help
My Ferris IS2000Z PTO won't turn back on after it was working fine all day. I shut the machine off for a few minutes, and now it won't restart. It just clicks when i hit the key. The charging system fuse was melted but not blown. Any idea on where to start? Thanks
Mine currently starts and runs great but as soon as i start my blades is loses power and is weak/motor struggles to keep rpm when moving and cutting but will idle back up when sitting any ideas?
Is it the clutch . I have a fs36 walk behind Ferris mower . When I have been mowing all day when I try to engage the blades they have a hard time coming on . Can you tell me what is it
We have a lx279 that the clutch bolt keeps coming loose. I always clean the threads, use locktite, and this last time, even used a longer bolt that threads on further, and it still keeps coming loose, wrecking the clutch, any tips?
Is a clutch supposed to move when you touch it? My Troy bilt blades turn on, rumble a little, and disengage. It seems to kick back on when I go forward, but shuts off when I stop too.
It should have a little bit of play side to side. There is a anti rotation bracket or stud on them and it needs a little bit of wiggle to allow them to engage and disengage
My clutch had a bad pto switch. The connector on the pto switch had a pin that backed out. Causing high resistance. Then the pto switch burned out. They warranty it.
After watching a couple of your videos and doing some testing with my volt meter, i have found out that my stator is not charging properly and causing my battery not to charge. Should i start there first with my issue of the blades disengaging or replace the pto clutch first? Vidoes have been very informative btw.
Before diagnosing anything the battery and charging must be working properly. As the battery gets too low on power, the pto clutch will be the first thing that shuts off. The engine will continue to run.
I replaced the battery today and after about 30-45 minutes the same thing happens. I can hear a random metal clicking sound just before the blades start trying to shut off. Looked at it while the blades were engaged and could see the pto skipping and occasional sparks🤷
Awesome video as usual, I have a 661r and every once in a while when the mower gets hot and has been in use for a while there is about an 2-3sec stall from engaging the pto to the blades starting have you encounters that situation?
I have noticed that a couple of times. If I remember correctly it was the clutch itself that failed. It can also be bad bearings getting tighter and harder to rotate when they get hot. Worn out bearings are a very common issue I see and the heat just makes it get worse faster and faster.
Yeah it did it once back in early December I put it up for about a week or so used it ever since then til 2 weeks ago and it did it then that's when I changed the switch and battery and then again today it ran for about 30min or so then turned off I gotta go buy the voltage tester tomorrow I'll check those wires in the morning and see how it goes I appreciate the help don't want to start the season off with the mower already down.
Hey Alex, yes it's most likely the spindle. With the deck belt loose or removed, spin each spindle and idler pulley to check is they are locked up or have bad bearings etc.
So my John Deere z355e makes a very loud screeching sound and nothing moves as if everything is seized. When i loosened belt from springs, all pulleys and spindles moved loosely (greased) as they should. Would this definitely be the clutch? Belt is assembled correctly, when i engage blades it screeches loud and locks up. I disengage blades very quickly because i don’t know what it’s doing to the motor?
If could be your clutch. Sometimes they get debris caught inside of them and will make a horrible noise when engaged. Best to remove it and inspect it. They are easy to split apart once removed. Also that is a good time to feel of the bearings. They should feel smooth as your turn them. Just want to add that if any of the spindles or pulley are making any noise when turned, they have bad bearings. (Often, customers will claim their spindles are good simply because they turn meanwhilethey are making a rough noise) Also check for play in the spindles by grabbing the end of the blade and see move it up and down. If you feel any movement, the bearings are worn and it will get worse quickly.
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So enjoyable to listen to a trained person, who does not think they are also a comedian..... Nice Job
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@rockybrenner.....I tend to agree, but considering that probably most of us reading these comments have a good idea of whom you speak, it probably could have been said a little more....civilly. "AND THERE'S YOUR DINNER! " lol
Thanks for the tutorial and tip on where to purchase. JD 717a Z mower (2005) Pulley wear out. PTO Clutch is where to go to purchase. Saved me a ton of money.
DO YOU HAVE A LINK to where you purchase?
Put mower to engage shut engine off
Great information-Thank You! Have had PTO bearings replaced once two years ago, now having the same issue and considered having service again at $200. However, you shared the Warner Direct info, I decided I would replace with new at $200, saving $300 if purchased from local supply house.
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$200??!!?!? Damnn I just replaced the bearings, resurfaced the plates, and cleaned 14 years of being used and stored outside for $25. Oh well.
You really know your mowers I enjoy watching videos with people that really know what they are doing. Thank you for your time.
Absolute genius. You mentioned in passing that the charging system could cause the PTO clutch not to engage, but still let the engine operate, and that was it! Thank you. You saved me untold hours of trying to debug the problem. BTW... I have a Husqvarna riding mower with a dead battery that I jumped to get it started. As you said, it was enough voltage to keep the engine running, but not enough to engage the clutch.
Thanks Joe! Glad it help
I have a cub cadet 46rzt that intermittently when I pull the PTO switch either the blades are slow to engage(meaning they start slow and work up to full speed), don't engage, or engage properly. I have notable squealing or noise. Not sure where to start. Any ideas? Could it be a belt issue? @@Mechanical_Mind
@plbjr123 I would guess you have a clutch/pto issue. First disconnect the the deck belt and check each spindle and idler for bearing issues. Remove the clutch and feel the bearings. I bet you have a clutch with vad bearings
Thank you! Will give it a try.
What happened here. I did same thing. Did you just charge battery and it worked?
Unnecessarily changed the pto switch. It was my battery the problem. You just saved me a clutch replacement.
Thank you.
Every time a customer says, "It just needs a new pto switch," I say, "I hope so, but it's most likely not the switch." Then, to keep them from accusing us of lying, I go show the customer in person clear evidence of clutch or wiring harness damage.
That makes the bad news easier for them to accept and approve the quoted repair.
Sometimes, they can't accept the facts, and I'll even install a new switch right there in front of them to prove that the switch is not the issue.
This was very helpful and kept me from making some wrong, costly, and time consuming mistakes. Thank you!!
Yes sir. Thanks for watching
Another quick way to remove it is to first, like you said, tighten then loosen the bolt. Then with the bolt loose start the engine while the friction releases and drops the clutch. Works every time for me.
Excellent idea. Work smarter not harder.
Thanks for the link to Warner PTO! I paid $125.
A new from Cub Cadet $400
Good deal! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info. 96 Simplicity with an older battery. Troubleshot the system and didn't know about current draw of PTO. Recharged battery and all's good. I have more work to do but at least I'm not throwing money at the wrong parts. Thanks again!
Check to make sure your charging system is working. Here is a video I made on how to check it. ruclips.net/video/Xj1w8dWxapI/видео.html
Thank you very much for the information. I have a Ztrack 335E and the blades just quit working right in the middle of me mowing last night. I foolishly wasted 440 on a PTO switch. I am going to try to pull the clutch and see check things out. I will also test the charging system, as that seems to match what you were talking about as a possible cause.
Thank you very much for the video explanation of how to fix clutch problems with my lawn tractor. I followed your instructions and it worked perfectly. Thanks again
Good quality left hand drill bit and a good easy out. I’ve never not been able to get a crank shaft bolt not to come out with that combo. I think not only does the left hand bit help loosen the bolt it also heats it up facilitating extraction
Been there done that and you are right works great.
So Happy I found your Channel.
Thank you for being so generous with your knowledge.
I'm not sure but I believe you just hit the nail on the head it's brand new battery and I've been having to jump it off and I just finished mowing my lawn and and the PT shut off and I think you're right kind of a relief but now I got to figure out why my charging system ain't working LOL
Hey Bobby, a bad battery or charging system issue is a very common issue I see when customers think it's a clutch or pto switch issue. Here is a video I made on how to check your mower's charging system ruclips.net/video/Xj1w8dWxapI/видео.html
Great informative video...mine was out of adjustment and was able to properly adjust it without removing it...
I have a gravely 460, 13 years old runs like a tank. Guy told me when I bought it to always engage the PTO at the lowest engine speed and disengage at the lowest engine speed In order to make the PTO last.
I have not had any issue until yesterday check the relays check the fuses, check the switch all checked good with ohm meter. I also got off the seat while the PTO switch was engaged and the mower died that revealed that the circuit was good. That kind of pointed me straight to the clutch/PTO. I needed something heavy for the seat switch so I put my toolbag on the seat which kept the seat switch Activated, And I pulled the PTO switch to engage the PTO Then I went around back and hit the PTO with a hammer
And presto it started running
Like I said earlier I ohmed out the PTO it tested good and the relays and the fuses and the switch. The PTO is pushing 13 years and still running. Probably getting really close to changing it though Hope this helped
Good video My John Deer F 725 PTO doesn't release and the blades keep turning I guess the bearings are bad . Im going to pull off the PTO after you showed Me how . Thanks
Yeah sounds like your bearings may have started to sieze up. Let us know what you figure out on it
Got my GT235 PTO off with Loose/tight method you showed. Awesome video!
Glad it worked for you
Clutch was intemittently working/not working on my 460 propane Gravely. I found out that the "gap" needed adjustment. Just like the clutch on a vehicle AC compressor it has to have the propper air gap to work properly.
My issue is 99% it is not holding battery. I jump start with the car and after sometime I see the numbers on the dashboard fading down and then the blades desingage. I am going to see your next video of charging system. Thanks buddy.
Most of the time its a bad voltage regulator. Your battery may also need to be replaced if its been drained down too many times but it sounds like yout battery is ok and just your charging system is bad. In the other video I show how to check if its voltage regulator or the stator
My LX277 does not have a hole through the deck. Used pry bars and a floor jack, and it finally popped loose after a long struggle.
Very informative. I have an old John Deere 160 mower that Im trying to fix up. This info will be helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
I had a z900 series come in shop about 2 weeks ago and ticket said starter solenoid. I tested everything and bench tested the starter everything tested good. I tried to see If I could rotate the clutch and it would freeze up. It seemed like it took me forever to to get that clutch off. Immediately able to see that it was the problem it was burnt up and locked up causing a no start situation. It would start up no problem with clutch removed. Still waiting on part. Seems to be a shortage on pto clutches in our area. We've had a lot of clutches lately coming in bad. Good video.
Are you working at a John Deere dealership? Ive noticed a bunch of different quality control issues. That might be my next video topic
The clutch having worn bearings can cause starting issues. That 636M in this video was having a hard time starting because of the worn clutch bearings. At first I thought it had stripped the starters gear teeth. I should have mentioned that in this video.
@@Mechanical_Mind yes I work for trigreen. The store I'm at was at one time ag-pro then trigreen bought them out. I've been there since end of September this year.
@@mickeyhurst4648 Cool deal. Do you guys work on many commercial mowers? Ive never seen so many commercial mowers until I moved to Florida. Im near Orlando which has a bunch of resorts, Disney & Universal. Plus tons of rich, famous people and retirees. None of which are cutting their own grass. I guess that is why there are so many commercial landscapers here. Plus the grass grows here all year round. Commercial mowers and gators are 90% of what we work on at my dealership. Dealerships 100 miles north of us work mostly on tractors.
@@Mechanical_Mind we work on alot of commercial mowers and residential. We get alot of tractors and gators in too. I usually do the pdi coming in. working on residential and commercial mowers as well as gators. Im still trying to get familiar with everything that is out there there is so many models. It's all new to me still. I worked on military vehicles for 14 years so changing over was a big change. I discovered your channel trying to get familiar with John deere products before I started and have noticed that your videos is very valuable and on point with issues bc I have came across alot of what you are getting out there to people to look out for. We are located in alabama
Good video. Have a Toro 228D with a seized clutch (can't turn off the mower blades). Looks like I need to remove the clutch which probably has bad bearings.
Thanks Jamse. Yeah normally the bearings go bad then that causes them to overheat and the damage gets exponentially worse
@@Mechanical_Mind I removed the double drive belt to disable the blades and began prepping the shaft/clutch with penetrating oil. Going to let the baste, a spell.
Thanks a lot. Very informative and detailed video. I will put this one in my file
For later use. Keep up the great work Thanks again.
DIAGNOSING ALERT. My deck was making a god-awful screeching and clicking noise when the blades were engaged (more on the right side). Everything… spindle, idlers, etc seemed tight. Took off clutch and it appeared fine. Installed new spindle. Still making noise. Replaced new idler. Still making noise. Finally took off clutch again and disassembled. Plates appeared scored. MUST be the clutch. After replacing with new clutch…STILL making noise. $hit…. Turns out it was the metal cup just above the blade that keeps debris out of the bearing that wore loose and spinning. Probably due to mixing and matching different parts from different spare spindles there was a bit of play. Wedged a bit of twine around it (yeah, its Macgyvered) to snug it up and back to normal. Just something to keep in mind.
Exactly what is happening to my 42 inch deck husqvarna. I must try this and get back to you.
i got a 2009 mitsubishi lancer (manual). almost 6 months ago i had no clutch at all gears wouldnt shift got the point after trying the car wouldnt turn on, called up a mobile house mechanic he said your going to need a new car or otherwise up to $2,000 or more.....decided to tow it to the family mechanic...he said the same but he can still have a look to see what parts i need. called me couple of hours later said all he did was tighten all the screws put a bit of clutch fluid in & its working no charge..drove it home 4/5 weeks later i was at the petrol station filling up & it done it again, petrol station manager walked out with a screwdriver tightened something & it worked fine for the next 6 months...yesterday it started doing it again...i got no idea what they could of tightened up
Thank for this! My Bad Boy doesn’t do anything when I pull the switch. Makes no noise, effort or anything. I already bought a new switch. That wasn’t it 😂.
Your video was very thorough an I have similar issues with my Z930m machine. Purchased used from a local lawn care guy, he had no Operations Manual for the machine, so lots of things I try to troubleshoot an/or fix myself. That is if I can see physical damage on parts that I can replace. My issue that I have experienced recently after having my machine worked on by someone that found and corrected an issue I was having for over a year now, was that while I was mowing my place, I would have to change batteries sometimes 3 or more times to cut the acreage that I maintain. He changed my clutch, repaired my wiring harness, and replaced PTO switch. Machine worked perfectly my first cutting. I cut again yesterday and machine would often lose power to the clutch and blades would shut down. Sometimes it would just be the blades to disengage, several times it would shut the motor down too. Any suggestions as to what could possibly cause this ISSUE? THANKS in advance for any info you could shed a bit of light on!!!! I haven't Subscribed as of yet, but keep up the work on supplying videos.
Hey Louis, it sounds like your mowers charging system is not working.
The pto clutch needs constant amp draw from the battery. So when the battery gets too weak, the first thing to stop working is the pto clutch / blades stop.
I did a video on how to diagnose the charging system. ruclips.net/video/Xj1w8dWxapI/видео.htmlsi=iZX_YceI70QL3vgt
I just reoalced the bearings in my clutch cost $30. And cldaned up clutch/rust. Much cheaper than replacing the whole clutch.
Thanks so much, you saved my time and money.
Glad I could help!
REALLY WELL PRESENTED INFORMATION. GOOD VIDEO...THANKS
So I've got a zt1 fifty inch deck. PTO clutch fell out the bottom of it while I was mowing. PTO clutch laying on the ground bolt sheered off inside engine drive. Nothing would take it out. I had to drill into the drive and weld a piece of all thread into the drive. Slide my new PTO clutch on the threads, with the washer that comes with the clutch. I used it and snugged a nut up holding it in place firm. My issue now remains, the PTO clutch has a lot of vibration going on. The pulley is turning flat so I know it's not due to a warped drive. It's the top half of the clutch. I guess the magnetic part it's just rattling.
I tried it once and the blades engaged right off I mowed maybe 25 feet and blades disengaged. I thought wow the PTO just completely died. Looked at it PTO clutch still firm in place, but the top half of the clutch has rattled so much it was under the metal braket.. only way to explain is there is like a key slot fork like prong, and then a flat bracket piece that seems to be missing something. Just has 2 holes.
So I bolted a piece of flat steel so that if it catches more than 1/16 of an inch vibration, the PTO clutches forked prong doesn't slip passed the bracket mounted on the bottom of the mower.
I have a 2010 z920a. Unknown hours. It’s recently started to make a loud rattling noise when the PTO is off, RPMs up. When the PTO is engaged, the rattling is gone. I’m guessing it’s the PTO, but it doesn’t feel loose at all.
A dirty p.t .o clutch come,s to mind also that might be the problem with the p.t.o clutch
Good to be able to diy fix and save $$
First off, very informative video. Second, I hope I can find an answer soon. I have a Z254F Husqvarna 54 inch cut mower. The other day I was starting to cut my grass when the deck belt through. Its a little stretched so I figure I will just get a new one. I put it on the pto engaged blade pulley spin but its not really cutting. Put new blades on it and still not cutting. Im lost, pto is on mower runs fine, spindles are spinning. Its just not cutting. PLEASE, ANY SUGGESTIONS?
Hey David, I would check each pulley and spindle individually with the belt removed. Spin each one and carefully listen and feel for rough bearings. Check for play or slack in the bearings of the spindle and pulleys that would let the belt pulleys to tilt or move.
I bet you have one that had become too hard to rotate and slowing down the belt. I bet that is what caused the belt to jump off the first time. The spindles might still be spinning but not at full speed.
@@Mechanical_Mind Hey thanks for getting back so fast. I am about to go out and check it some more now.. let you know what I find.
A great info. Jhon deere and cube Cadet are mowers you wanna stay away for owning. Constant issues. I know mower need to be serviced but those come out of the box already junk.
Is it not possible to disassemble the old clutch,clean it up put new bearings in it.or is it just more cost effective to put a new one on the mower?
Too bad; my issue is my blades are always on… I’m going to check if I have always power at the clutch, if not, try to unstuck the clutch with a lubricant anti rust…
Most of the times I've seen that happen, the clutch is damaged and locked up. Sometimes, metal fence material gets wedged and wrapped up in the clutch
explained very well I enjoy watching the video.
It would be helpful to point to the parts in question and orient them on the machine. Where are they located?? . The pictures flash by too fast.
Really helpful video! I’m trying to take the clutch off a JD 661R to replace the drive belt but the 16mm clutch bolt just spins when I try to take it off, what needs to be done to stop it from free spinning? The pulley does not spin with it unless I apply pressure to the clutch w a pry bar but I don’t wanna break it bc it seems to be working fine. Thanks!
First time viewer. I decided to check your video out being that you talked about ways to remove stubborn clutches. My clutch came off on this very old yazoo keys. I've never seen one of these. So I have the clutch removed and I'm afraid that this adjustable clutch is very locked up. Very hard to spin free hand.
What would cause blades to come on when I engage the pto switch ? but when I go to turn blades on they semi disengage but not fully. Thanks! Cheer, Great video!
Your clutch must not be fully disengaging for some reason. Inside the clutch is a large magnet above the friction plates. So when the magnet is not actived the plates should separate. My guess would be there is some type of physical damage not allowing the plates to fully separate OR the plates have gotten really hot and they are sticking together. Bad bearings can cause extreme heat and you will have to replace the entire clutch. There also some springs on one one the friction plates and they sometimes get messed up or come loose.
You can get a new Warner clutch from PTO direct.com for much less $$.
JD 915B when clutch engages it seems to be putting excess strain on engine and rpm not as high as it should be. This mower has a 60” deck swapped by the dealer when purchased 10 years ago. May have added stress to the clutch. 648hrs on the machine. Do you think it is the bearings or worn out clutch that I should just replace? Great video!
Oh man I’m having a hard time, took of the old clutch but now the screw won’t fit, the shaft is all messed up I wanted to put on a new screw a little bigger but threatening its so complicated in this position I’m about to weld a whole stud on but things are getting complicated
I notice when I disengage my blade clutch on my 2013 SR130 Country Clipper there's an approximate 3 second delay, It use to be Instantaneous. Any Ideas what's causing It? Thanks for the Informative video.
Very good video. Thanks.
Thank you! Also Thanks for watching
@@Mechanical_Mind Just to give you and update...with all the video's I watched, yours was the only one that mentioned going through a hole above to tap on the clutch. I used a crowbar and a 9-lb maul hammer. In about 5 minutes the clutch was off. The crowbar worked better than a round steel bar because of the flat wide shape of the tip and the bend at the end. Now all I have to do is find a way to get the pulley off. Thanks again for the help.
I did check that switch at the bottom before I took it to trigreen.
Do you have a video about the clutch stop bracket or bolt or whatever you said, ripping the wires out
Sure do
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hiya, thanks for sharing your wisdom in this video, lots of great tricks and hints.
but a question.. why are the main bearings above the pto clutch no lubeable or set up with a lube tube with say a high temp lube oil thats thick but drippable, seems crazy they arent lubable in some way. surely most would wear out well before the two year warranties finish
Thanks for the nice comment. You would need to ask Warner, the clutch manufacturer about the bearing design. I do see many of them burn up before the warranty goes out. I often see them go out as low as 600 hours on units with 1200 hr warranties
Hm mine is slow to Engage the blades it takes awhile to spin them up and it almost kills the lawnmower a lot more than usual it’s a craftsman t3200 husqvarna made lawn tractor.. I took off the deck and cleaned it everything seems good deck seems good and plenty of tension I recently had rebuilt the carb I replaced the voltage regulator aswell and it has a new battery 😅 not sure maybe something wrong with pto clutch
That will happen if the bearings in the clutch are bad. They get harder to start turning. I'd remove the clutch and feel the the bearings. I've also seen were debris, like metal wire from a fence, can get caught in the clutch causing issues.
If the deck belt is wet, that also will cause a delay in bringing the deck spindles up to speed.
What is the problem when your blades won't turn all the way off?? After turning the PTO switch off the blades still spin about 500 to 1000 rpm or so and never quit. Turn the switch back on and the blades are back to full speed and turn the switch back off and they are low speed again but won't never completely quit spinning.
I'm betting that something is caught up in your clutch not allowing it to disengage
My mower won't turn over, just clicks. I have changed EVERYTHING (battery is new); safety switches, solenoid, carburetor, voltage regulator, start switch, PTO switch, fuses, relays etc. Only thing left is the PTO. But I'm not sure if that would cause this problem? Wiring harness is fine and I have a good ground. Any help would greatly be appreciated!
When the clutchs go bad, they can lock up and prevent the crankshaft from spinning.
Did you remove the spark plugs and try to rotate the engine over? Sometimes, they can lock up from gasoline leaking into and filling the cylinder. The piston can't compress liquid gasoline. If you remove the spark plugs that will allow any fluid trapped (gas/oil/coolant) to be able to escape.
Sweet tips thank you. I have a z920m. How long do you those style clutches lasting? I’m at 900 hours now. Your video makes me confident I can do it myself. 👍🏼
Thanks docoolstuff! Ive seen them go out as earlry as 400 hours but Id guess the average is around 1000 hours from my experience. They are easy to replace and Im sure you can handle it. The hardest problem (that sometimes happens) is if the bolt breaks off inside the crankshaft. That can turn an easy job into a nighmare.
My belt on my zero turn broke twice and now my blades won't go on. Would the clutch be causing all of that?
Love all your videos. Extremely helpful. Quick question... I have a John Deere Z330R. What is the torque specification for the bolt that attaches the PTO clutch to the crankshaft? I can't seem to find it anywhere. Thanks in advance for your help.
Hey William, thanks. 60 ft-lbs. I d put anti-seize on the threads also if you got it.
I have a non-electric mower its an old Troy-bilt from 2010. still does not engage blades and the cable is not broken,
Random question, I got old lx277 like 1200 hours, just started having pto issues I'm pretty handy so ... I'll try the battery deal but!! When mowing for like 30 min seems like blades just cut off and all I got do is get off wiggle the blades and it comes back on?? Any ideas????
I betting the clutch is getting too hot from worn bearings. That just a gues. Even if I had the mower here in person I would need to inspect it closely to find the issue. I'd remove the clutch and inspect it for signs of damage
What's it mean after you've been running the mower and everything has been working fine but once you turn the PTO off and you try to turn it back on when it's hot it won't re-engage until it's had cool down time
I would not be surprise if your clutch is about to fail completely from overheating. Which is most likely being caused by worn or damaged bearings.
I would remove the clutch and inspect it.
I have a John Deere 160 lawn tractor 80s model. The belt from the pto broke but I noticed it was real hot the pto was real hot I guess it melted the belt. I
checked pulleys they spin easy I guess I have a bad Pto clutch getting hot what do you think.
At 13:50 was there supposed to be more to that bench test video or did it cut out?
Man at 13:50 it was supposed to be the best explanation video of all time answering everyone's questions and covering every possible situation. I guess it cut out....
I have a 1993 white gt 180. My pto only engages when i jam the switch all the way up. Ive tried 3 new switches but they dont work at all. Is this a ground issue?
To be able to remove tough clutch bolts easily, take a look at these DeWalt impacts I use amzn.to/49NwEfk
How man wires goes to the LA175 Pto Clutch I have 2 black wires hanging down on the right side a yellow still on the clutch blades stop working
I doubt anyone knows... but installed a pto clutch on a cub cadet, aftermarket not Warner, it caught fire! apparently it still works but i wasn't there to see what exactly occurred thoughts? dried and tall grass? it was getting broken in so extra heat being generated...
I have a JD LA115. With the pto lever engaged, the blades Will intermittently disengage and then re engage. I replaced the belt; which is extremely loose by the way, and it is the correct belt. What could be causing this to happen?
Good job
I have a Craftsman riding mower that has an electronic clutch. While I was mowing, the engine stalled, I automatically disengaged the blade, and the engine started up. I engaged the clutch a couple of times to verify, it shut the engine off every time. I never heard anything like bearings making noise. I would appreciate any insight into my situation. Thank you. Greg
I have a similar problem
The keyed pulley above the PTO has slipped. I can’t get it back in place to put PTO in proper location. Any recommendations???? Help! Thanks
I have a 2008 Dixie Chopper Xcaliber, just replaced the T-Box and all that is good but my clutch now is only partially engaged driving in a straight line but if I turn/spin the mower it will fully engage. I am currently charging the battery per your video and other comments for this video, any ideas outside the battery not being charged well I can check? It was engaging fine prior to me replacing the T-Box. Stop bolt is fine, not broken or anything unusual with it.
If the pto clutch is shot, would that prevent the mower from moving forward/back? Blades engage just fine
Sounds like you have a broken drive belt
@@Mechanical_Mind Thanks for the reply. Have craftsman Z6000. "Something" started occaisionly squeling and it would slow down and speed up, run ok for a bit and repeat, First thought was the belt and it was rather loose and glazed over so we changed it. Motor starts up fine, blades run just fine but when I engage the arms, absolutely nothing. I'd think you would some sort of click or "something". I did have to fill hydraulic oil on one side. Disabled the seat safety switch.Quadrupled checked to make sure new belt is installed right.
When you mentioned the clutch screaming and squaling I thought "Ah Ha!" I've been banging my head on the back bumper and about to run screaming and squalering away.
I've got an x500 that i thought the engine was seized and it's starting to seem like the PTO clutch is the issue. Worked in some wd40 to the PTO after watching this and finally got the engine to turn over. Now when i engage the PTO the engine is killed?
I guess that kind of sounds like the crankshaft bolt is seizing to the pto?
Hi my friend my bolens tractor makes noise went engaging but work sound like belt but belt are new how to check if is clutch? I like you video please help
Thank you this helps me a lot I’ve subscribed
My Ferris IS2000Z PTO won't turn back on after it was working fine all day. I shut the machine off for a few minutes, and now it won't restart. It just clicks when i hit the key. The charging system fuse was melted but not blown. Any idea on where to start? Thanks
Literally had my PTO clutch FALL OFF while cutting last week.
Did the bolt break off in the crankshaft?
@@Mechanical_Mind nope, it backed itself out I guess. Very strange. I found it, and put it back in, no problems since so far.
Mine currently starts and runs great but as soon as i start my blades is loses power and is weak/motor struggles to keep rpm when moving and cutting but will idle back up when sitting any ideas?
Same exact issue with my cub cadet lt1050
Is it the clutch . I have a fs36 walk behind Ferris mower . When I have been mowing all day when I try to engage the blades they have a hard time coming on . Can you tell me what is it
your videos are great thank you
Glad you like them!
Got a video on how to check the charging system?
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My friend has a 2023 Kohler bad boy zero turn 7000 series 725cc with a bad clutch ware can I get a cheap strong replacement
I had a intermittent loose clutch connection clip.
What is it when I engage the pto switch the whole thing shuts off.
Check your safety switches
We have a lx279 that the clutch bolt keeps coming loose. I always clean the threads, use locktite, and this last time, even used a longer bolt that threads on further, and it still keeps coming loose, wrecking the clutch, any tips?
Super helpful thanks
Good info. Thanks
Thank you!!
Is a clutch supposed to move when you touch it? My Troy bilt blades turn on, rumble a little, and disengage. It seems to kick back on when I go forward, but shuts off when I stop too.
It should have a little bit of play side to side. There is a anti rotation bracket or stud on them and it needs a little bit of wiggle to allow them to engage and disengage
I have a JD z225 engine will run fine but when you engage pto it does.everything underneath seems to freespool well. What could cause this problem?
I've gotten older Craftsman lawn mower when you engage the blades the lawn mower shuts off what could be the problem
Faulty seat safety switch or the clutch itself is bad.
My clutch had a bad pto switch. The connector on the pto switch had a pin that backed out. Causing high resistance. Then the pto switch burned out. They warranty it.
After watching a couple of your videos and doing some testing with my volt meter, i have found out that my stator is not charging properly and causing my battery not to charge. Should i start there first with my issue of the blades disengaging or replace the pto clutch first? Vidoes have been very informative btw.
Before diagnosing anything the battery and charging must be working properly.
As the battery gets too low on power, the pto clutch will be the first thing that shuts off. The engine will continue to run.
I replaced the battery today and after about 30-45 minutes the same thing happens. I can hear a random metal clicking sound just before the blades start trying to shut off. Looked at it while the blades were engaged and could see the pto skipping and occasional sparks🤷
@dibble36441 if you're seeing sparks the clutch is damaged and will need to be replaced
What do I do if I can't loosen the 5/8" bolt?
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Awesome video as usual, I have a 661r and every once in a while when the mower gets hot and has been in use for a while there is about an 2-3sec stall from engaging the pto to the blades starting have you encounters that situation?
I have noticed that a couple of times. If I remember correctly it was the clutch itself that failed. It can also be bad bearings getting tighter and harder to rotate when they get hot. Worn out bearings are a very common issue I see and the heat just makes it get worse faster and faster.
Yeah it did it once back in early December I put it up for about a week or so used it ever since then til 2 weeks ago and it did it then that's when I changed the switch and battery and then again today it ran for about 30min or so then turned off I gotta go buy the voltage tester tomorrow I'll check those wires in the morning and see how it goes I appreciate the help don't want to start the season off with the mower already down.
@@Mechanical_Mind😮
Mine does not let the blades spin at all both of them are hard even by hammering the blades they bearly spin. Could that be the spindles?
Hey Alex, yes it's most likely the spindle. With the deck belt loose or removed, spin each spindle and idler pulley to check is they are locked up or have bad bearings etc.
So my John Deere z355e makes a very loud screeching sound and nothing moves as if everything is seized. When i loosened belt from springs, all pulleys and spindles moved loosely (greased) as they should. Would this definitely be the clutch? Belt is assembled correctly, when i engage blades it screeches loud and locks up. I disengage blades very quickly because i don’t know what it’s doing to the motor?
If could be your clutch. Sometimes they get debris caught inside of them and will make a horrible noise when engaged. Best to remove it and inspect it. They are easy to split apart once removed.
Also that is a good time to feel of the bearings. They should feel smooth as your turn them.
Just want to add that if any of the spindles or pulley are making any noise when turned, they have bad bearings. (Often, customers will claim their spindles are good simply because they turn meanwhilethey are making a rough noise) Also check for play in the spindles by grabbing the end of the blade and see move it up and down. If you feel any movement, the bearings are worn and it will get worse quickly.
@@Mechanical_Mind thank you!!!! About to take clutch off now and inspect!!!! Really appreciate it