Crucible Knight Build is BROKEN in Elden Ring
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2023
- This week with the Secret Starting Class series, we take a look at the Crucible Knights! The Armor, The weapons what's not to love? Check out this straight up BROKEN build using the Crucible Tree / Axe Set, the Crucible Knight Sword and Spear, and the Aspect of the Crucible Knight: Horns to beat all remembrances in the Lands Between... even Malenia!
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Ordovis saw Malenia break her own rules in phase 2 and was like "I want me some of that"
"My turn"
I personally love siluras tree against malenia, It’s fine to call a summon then clay pigeon her out of the air or knock her onto her ass with the Ash
I think when people say that crucible horns cheeses malenia, they are really refer to a specific combo starting with the horns spell then followed up with ordovis' vortex and crucible tail or an r2. It instantly breaks her stance or at least gets her very close, but really horns is only the distance closer, ordovis' sword does the most.
That's a lot more words that "press L2 with the spear"
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 Yeah hence why no sane person would do it
No they mean it knocks her 5 Meters in the air and you can continue to do that everytime she wakes up unless she hyperarmours it but I don't know why people would use it over giant hunt, stamp upward cut or even the zweihanders second R2 they all do the same thing and don't take as long
I used a similar build and I confirm that this build stance breaks Malenia every time with horns and ordovis vortex or tail
I played incantation-only, and that was the most fun I’ve had in Elden Ring, including the Malenia fight. Mimic Tear + highest level healing spell, Black Flame Protection, Crucible Horns, Dragon Maw (favorite spell; absolutely deletes bosses), and Frenzied Burst
Running a Crucible Knight build with Beast Clergy and Crucible spells was insanely fun. And the Beast Clergy Talisman is great with it because it scales with Strength
I did this on my first playthrough, it's amazing
Isn't the scaling ass?
@@angeryboyeso did I, switched to a strength/faith from a pure strength because I was stuck on maliketh and I used ordovis’ sword and it fuckin rips
Feels like they would align well lore wise. The crucibles and bestials both worshipped nature/erdtree...right?
To follow up on the duo boss rant: Ornstein and Smough (and to a lesser extent the Throne Watcher and Throne Defender in Dark Souls 2) are designed to deliberately cover each other’s weaknesses. The big guy’s bulkiness and power covers for the small one’s squishiness and the small one’s speed covers for the big chungus’s slowness.
The duo bosses in Elden Ring just go “No Spirit Ash? Sucks to suck Bucko”
it's almost like spirit ashes are an intended mechanic
@@Unimportant_eggkind of agree except. The duo bosses here kind of were boring just two guys nothing really interesting happens. You already fought copies of both in the overworld.
Exactly. Here’s what I’d change:
For the gargs, remove the poison breath from at least one, and put both of the main distance closing moves (the halberd and twinblade jumps) on the one without it. This will make a slower enemy with powerful area control and a faster enemy without it, which will hopefully make the boss more fun. Also, buff fortissax because compared to these guys he’s a pushover.
For the godskins, make the noble slower. It can still keep all of its moves, just slower. The roll needs a wider turn radius. The apostle is fine as is.
For the crucible duo, make the other knight unique and make it faster. That means leaning more into flight and horns, where Ordovis should lean into breath and tail.
Anyone have any other ideas?
@@shroomian2739 i would suggest the godskin apostle should use blackflame Tornado more,like i startet NG+2 recently and never even once experienced this move from him. That would also pull the Focus from the noble since most people i see kill the noble first
I’m here 7 months later godskin duo don’t attack you at the same time unless you hug both of them at the same time!
Hope everyone has realized this by now, the Noble is more aggressive :)
There is a reason why i made my main knight capable of using all the crucible weapons, they are quite good and love the aesthetic they have.
Really looking forward to give him a run in the DLC
Should drill through!
Same. I have him wearing the crucible armor with the white hood that those godskin disciples wear. He looks baller as fuck
we finally got the wing attack for the dlc, so i’m definitely gonna run that too
I wouldn't call the Crucible Tail terrible, just very situational. It is very good at breaking postures. Thou I agree that fighting the Crucible Duo with just the tail would be pure torture.
Fighting them in general is torture.
Honestly, just never wanted to use it when I could use OMEGA DRILL
I found it useful for attacking the Godskin Noble during his rollout (after getting him stuck on pillars of course)
Does the tail not proc the winged sword insignia anymore? I'm pretty sure it did/does, not that it would make a ton of difference or be better than catch flame for the duo.
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 yeah I only used the Tail in my Pure Incantation build, if I had the choice between the OMEGO DRILL and the Tail I probably would have chosen the Drill.
I fought Ordovis and his buddy at level 70-ish. With armor. And the Bloodhound Fang. And I completely lost track of how many times I died. Hats off to you for beating them like this. I don't even have anything clever to say about it. That's just impressive.
Hats off and rip to everyone relying on bleed everywhere. Imagine how hard it was for me to beat them CONSUMABLES ONLY.
@@user-ox7ob6fm7e Congrats, that sounds like hell. I'm still pretty new at the game, so I'm nowhere near attempting that.
@@danieljohnson9917 Consumables are pretty good and powerful. You have a huge variety of damage types and statuses. Weirdly most of the mandatory bosses were a cake. But the hardest boss so far was Mogh in the sewers. That bastard had 47% of each resistances except 94% fire AND immune to all statuses. I've lost count how may times he drained me all of my resources and made me to collect all the crafting materials over again...
@@user-ox7ob6fm7e From what I've seen between different Elden Ring creators, Sewer Mohg seems to wall a lot of different builds/challenges.
As someone who prefers Siluria, I really love how ridiculous the spear is. Sniper rifle chandelier
I like it a lot, but imo it gets outclassed by Bolt of Gransax all around. Lightning is better than Holy, it still knocks people over, it has better tracking, and it has more range.
Ordovis’ Greatsword has to be one of my favourite weapons in the game. I really hope the wings get added as an incantation in the dlc
It would be so fun. Just DIVEBOMBING everyone
Aspects of the Crucible: Wings
@@waitingfortheequinnox yessir
This aged very well
i'm very happy for you :)
Long Live the Chonk! I, for one, have thoroughly enjoyed Siluria's Sniper Rifle
One of my new favorite weapons
WINGS ARE BACK ON THE MENU BOYS!
Parrying only really gets you worthwhile damage with weapons that get a high parry multiplier, *which is not the same as the WEAPON'S crit multiplier.* Rapiers and daggers get the best parry bonus, everything else.... just dodge or block.
Wait for real? That's bananas
@tulokthebarbrarian2033 yep. Even if your damage, crit stat, everything are the same, you'll get different damage on ripostes specifically depending on the weapon type.
It's weird and confusing, and even after looking into it I don't fully understand the Riposte calculations
I WANT CRUCIBLE WING INCANTATION FOR DLC! Or a talisman or Crucible seal that unlocks the best versions of their incants.
The Clawmark Seal might have been a bit better for your spells since it scales on strength and two handing the seal gives 50% strength bonus. Not that you needed the incantations but for anyone looking to go Crucible and use the incants.
The Ordovis fight reminds me of the duo fights in Nioh. Two bosses that basically get put in a room and are fighting like they're the only one.
Never played Nioh, but that sounds maddening
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 There's one mission in Nioh where you have to fight (iirc) three waves of enemies, then two super aggressive endgame bosses at once. If you die at any point, you have to fight the waves of enemies again. Best overall strategy is to come back super overleveled (Nioh lets you go back to old new-game cycles) so it's not miserable. It is optional though.
Yeah those fights in Nioh were the least enjoyable part for me because it absolutely prevents you from playing in a fun way. Thankfully in Nioh 2 there's only 2 optional (0 mandatory) duo fights and they give you an NPC to help a little bit with one of them. They also give you checkpoints for the gauntlet fights
Golden Parry is really OP against anyone parriable, but there just isn't any reason to parry outside of NPC invaders and gaol bosses
That aged well. Angel wings in Shadow of the Erdtree.
I appreciate that you take the time to hotswap to the tree armour after summoning the mimic every time. that's nice dedication to the details
I made a crucible knight build a few months ago as well, definitely one of my favorite builds! Though getting the armor and sword early on was indeed a nightmare 😂
Good news. The sweet angel wings are coming in the DLC
Yes! I’m so glad we’re getting the Wings, I was so mad it wasn’t in the base game
If you can use either of these weapon arts without making a sound effect IRL your inner child is dead.
Brrrrrr PEW
Truly a "go brrr" moment
Sure crucible knights can grow wings and fly but does that mean can make the swag jump to safety first try, or will it take like 5 hours of set up?
5:20 of set up
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033where is mango
Awesome video. The prep phase seemed really painful, honestly not sure if I would have the mental fortitude to stick through that for 100 attempts... But once the build was running it was super cool and looked really fun and satisfying.
The rants were absolute peak. Would watch you die against the duo for ages.
People seem to like it when I rant haha
When I started playing the game my most hated enemy to fight was the Crucible Knight, but now is the one I like the most. It just feel so good to fight a one to one against them. Not the lance one tho, still hate those.
I JUST started putting together a Crucible knight build. Already have all of the armor and weapons; still need to figure out the talismans.
Alexander shard is a MUST as is Godfrey Icon
I like the crucible Armor but I used it with the Crescent Moon Axe that droped from the Axewielders in Stormveil. Gives a Warhammer Chaos Champion of Khorne feel.
Love the content! And I beg for a crystallian run 🙏🙏🙏
But we can't get the ring! I want the ring!
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033I know 😭😭 Love all your runs tho, def my fave Elden ring creator !
Happy to see it. I have asked for this in the past, and the call has been answered.
We do what we can
Well, good news! We're getting the angel wings in the dlc!
Now whether its an AoW or an incantation or an item spell is yet to be seen
Parry in Elden Ring kiiind of necessitates you use one of the three special parry Ashes of War.
Once you have Golden Parry, sure, it can be pretty fun. But yeah, it just feels like you're getting baited when you have fun pulling parries off and then the game is just "btw, Malenia needs three parries for a crit, lmao.". Even godskins need two, but it's still my favourite tactic against crucibles, specifically
This has aged well with the shadow of the erdtree dlc, soon it will be 3/3
Is this about the wing move crucible knight Ordovis does
For Ordovis, you can parry all Overhead swing attacks. Just look for those start up animations and be ready to parry or dodge when it's not an overhead.
I love these videos so much, I frequently set a playlist of your video on at night and fall asleep watching them. Probably one of my favourite RUclipsrs of 2023 but I have to say it: French press coffee really isn't that much harder than loading a coffee maker. Boil some water and throw it in the French press with your coffee and then that's it. Push the plunger after like 5 minutes and boom, coffee done. I don't know if you have French press confused with like an espresso maker or not but French press is dummy easy. Sorry, needed to be said.
15:10 it's arriving bro, 21th june 🔥
I think the problem with the crucible knight parry damage is that they are just resistant to it, seeing as how the Crucible Scale talisman gives resistance to critical damage, probably as a reflection of the Crucible Knights resistance
Parrying is the French press coffee of Elden Ring
That's why it's called Paris-ing
Whoa, this is true
In case anyone struggles with fighting the knights with a shield, just use the kick ash of war any time they raise the shield, its an instant stagger and free stab every time. :D
1.parrying: i found these conclusions too, parrying is cool and all, but looking for frame perfect windows is a lot of effort for not so much payoff, dogding and L2 punishing is much better imo
2.french press: we have adopted it, and we probably dont do the whole ritual, because i think its the easiest way to make coffee, boil water, grind coffee, pour together and bam! coffee
3.the tail: cant yoou double cast it for big tail? i remember you can do that, but yeah bosses allways have the pre-nerfed op version, sadge
4.Lionel run when? (Epéé good)
Lionel could be fun, even though we couldn't get the armor until the capital. Maybe for an NG+ run
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 that could work since he goes for family sized stat requirements
I feel like the incantations are better with the claw mark seal since the build seems very strength faith oriented
The tail has 2 swings when you use it, one is normal, and the other is Ordovis' semi truck hitbox one :p
I want to do this build! I think I'll use a spirit ash for the first boss fight though lol
I spit my monster at the "Reaches across the map and hits the f*** Fire Giant"
Amazing build(s)
My run began on NG+ with the Ordorvis load-out and now I’m on NG+2 at Fire Giant with Siluria. ...Pod-racing 👍🏻
I love this video so much because on my 4th or 5th run on Elden ring I also decided to do a crucible build but I went with Ordovis’ sword and shield
It was such a blast, I struggled immensely with crucible duo (they don’t get enough hate on the internet) and I was at level 90-ish which is probably just right it even slightly over levelled
Seeing this just brought a tear into my eye, kudos!!! That was amazing!!!
Been waiting for this one, now we gotta see tree sentinel and omen killer
well looks like we can get those sweet angel wings now!
oh man, watching you suffer on stream was so wild. i cant believe how fast you finished the run after you got the armor and sword. also, sorry for the bingo suggestion cause i think its just a different kind of suffering to see you go through xD cant wait for the next run!
For these runs you deserve my respect
HAHAHA "the drill that will pierce the heavens"! Nice Gurren Laggan reference there
Tulok gathering smithing stones individually instead of getting the bell bearings?? Impossible
I can't kill the crystallian!
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 that is EXACTLY what I was thinking about 🤣
The fact that the music for the ready to die chapter wasnt biggie is an absolute crime
I loved the tree spear, I used it for most of the game and it is so fun!!
"You don't have to suffer while you eat lunch" Man that's exactly when I watch your videos, when I'm eating
This man knows his audience.
8:32 the parry into the heal punish is insane
And this is where i would put my "Golden Crucible Knight Wings", if I HAD ONE
I did a similar playthrough a few months back, also fighting the Crucible Duo early. The best method is definitely using the Misericorde and Buckler, though obviously you need to beat Margit for both of those and it wouldn't have worked for this specific challenge.
I also suck at parrying, so yeah, that was 40% of my game time on that save.
I’m doing a crucible knight run after you got the gear it looked fun lol
Sword is also so fast to attack. Wow! Such a nice and fancy build.
Crucible gank is a task to be sure but man, what a fight. Ya gotta love it.
I'm now curious about what french press setup you've seen. Cause I have 3 things. Ground coffee, hot water, press. Always thought this was the cheap n easy option besides the instant stuff I love.
I can't remember... did you do a tree sentinel run? Halberd and basic armor only need you to kill that first sentinel and the beam puzzle... I suppose you'd have to allow yourself to kill the Sentinel with starting gear weapon but... well.
The crucible tree spear is similar to the bolt of gransax in the way that they’re both ridiculously OP
I wish the Elden beast was a separate fight from radagon. I know he technically has a phase 2 but a proper radagon phase 2 would be amazing
DLC Marika boss fight
@@tulokthebarbrarian2033 I wanna have your babies 👀
LIONS CLAW ASH OF WAR on the ZWEIHANDER and the Mimic tear. That fight was so much more fun on my second playthrough
Hey dude, i stumbled upon your video and the crucible knights look awesome so i decided to "copy" your build and add some incantation buffs (my first ever full playthrough not quite done yet i'll update when i'm done). Super nice looking Armor set and both weapons are great.
Had this build done after Radahn going into Deeproot and grabbing the Spear. Used holy infusion from an ash of war i picked up somewhere and just guardcountered my way through the beginning.
Hero grave... kite kite kite until siluria was dead, then parry spam Ordovis. Overall horrible fight and countless attempts through multiple stages of the game until i was strong enough (i hate double bosses).
Niall was wasy with the spear. Lined up the right soldier with him, then lined up the left soldier with him. Then run and spam inbetween whirlwind charge move and jumps. 9 attempts.
Fire Giant was easy with spear on horseback and just drilling his butthole. between 15-20 attempts.
Mohg was...interesting. Got to spam Tree L2 quite a lot because he did those debuff thingies at some damage thresholds i think so phase 1 was easy. Chug pots during transition and phase 2 i ditched the spear because he just spammed his fires when i was far away. Took me a while to get his moves but i pulled through after 4-5 hours and 30+ attempts and some grass touching inbetween to cool down.
Godskin Duo almost broke me and i ultimately gave up and used a summon. Honestly, that's all i needed because the second the enemy de-aggrod, the Vortex could dish out some insane damage and poise break. 50+ tries before giving up and using mimic though that didn't feel rewarding so going forward i benched my evil twin indeffinitely.
The big 2 headed Dragon dude was surprisingly easy, had his moves down in 2-3 attempts. Straightforward attacks and some good openings when he did his green fire breath (except that laser which i dodged by chance) and dead on the 5th run.
Maliketh was brutal because he spams a lot. I used Silurias Tree in Phase 1 weaving L2s from behind the pillars and O's Greatsword in Phase 2 which consisted mostly of me running around dodging and looking for openings. 40+ tries.
Malenia was absurdly easy with the horn incantation and Ordovis Greatsword she was perma broken. She got off that spinny move once and i was tanky enough to get away with not dodging every instance. In phase 2 transition i switched back to the spear and hit her a few times and then back into Greatsword staggerparty and luck dodging the dance and her shadow clone jutsu thing. Dead on the 7th attempt but i might have been overleved at 130, not sure.
Gideon didn't even touch me once. Full Charge Vortex-> Horn -> Vortex and some more hits and he was basically dead. 1st try.
Currently i'm at Godfrey and dude, that Phase 2 is hard. He doesn't give me time to Charge for L2's so i'm trying dodgerolling, tapping L2 and slowly wittling him down. I got the jump timings down for all those stomps but phase 2 he just spams batista bombs and ground slams/eruptions when i try to get in charge hits. He feels impossible to stagger. Should get it done tomorrow. 50+ and counting.
So far, overall a super fun build.
Thanks for the awesome suggestion. i'll update how the other bosses go with this build (including dlc once i play it).
Learning that the omen duo shackles trigger the pillars and illusion doors really made the hero graves not terrible
I love that we're getting the Angel Wings in the DLC
28:44 for more information, google tree on tree action on your work computer
You said no BUT id love to see you play Bingo Elden ring. That'd be really fun
Most I could handle is Commentary haha
I like to describe crucible night's as the god's of reach. because they close distances quick, and a lot of their attacks feel like they could poke the firegiant from Limgrave.
Early pain to grab them. I recommended this a while ago for the Aspect of the Horn, but I acknowledged it’d suck to get a weapon and armor. Also the vid looks way smoother this week, looks real nice
I'ma be honest: the Fort Haight jokes are my favorite😂 like i know it's coming, it's the same EVERY TIME. But it always puts a smile on my face
So I've only gotten 2:04 into this video and it's hilarious but fantastic thanks for your service 😅😂
My hardest challenge at all. Second was the Gargoyle duo to get Siluria's tree and Elemer and third is Godskin in Caelid tower. Any other 'starting weapons' were breeze.
For belum bridge, there's a spirit spring to jump up from below. It didn't look like the teleporting and key were important? So run up to bridge from underneath, slightly to the south east. there's a spirit spring in the trees to jump up, skipping all of the academy.
Loretta build next if possible? Gotta try and finish boss fights with loretta's greatbow and mastery. Makes it more cinematic
Crucible knights were the first enemies I learned to parry making them by favorite to fight but even now 2 without the buckler is a little painful
Your parry window rant was tops.
Your pivot to Elden Ring from D&D is a blessing. I've literally never cared about watching this game before, only playing. Kudos on making a game I found unwatchable except for hyper specific naked challange runs interesting and fun!
Beating Ordovis at that level is wild. I found Parrying to be the only way for me to get damage in and survive hits from the other knight while I was in the reposte. I fought them for a long time so I started to really understand their moves.
(I learned this the hard way) You missed a lot of parries because of the spacing. You have to be right up next to them when parrying to hit. I thought the Spear knight lunge was unparryable, but found out it was if I moved in closer. Also the vortex is probably the easiest parry for free damage.
15:08 Miyazaki listened to my man and added one in the DLC
I like parrying. I'm not the very best or anything. But I'm replaying ER now as a dual dagger build with parry on the offhand and I'm having a blast. It's so super satisfying.
When people say that those horns cheese malenia, they’re talking about a scripted fight that uses other weapons ashes of war and a heavy attack to consistently keep her stance broken. I think it’s horns, crucible sword ash of war, and charged heavy. However, scripting fights is lame. Saw gino do it in his faith only run I think
“We have crucible knight spirit ashes at home” was my first run, I took what I could get. Also, when I’m running around with all crucible stuff I allow the dragon bite and claw spells since they fit thematically with the tail fire breath and crucible background.
Also with Malenia, ash knight trying to keep her pinned in the corner with the massive aoe fire breath, he was doin his best with what he had.
This is an older video so maybe it's old news, but yes pretty much all Bosses gain Hyper-Armor AND significant Damage-Reduction during their phase-transitions. It's there to make sure phases switch over without bugging out because you stunned Morgott during his puddles or such, and to encourage the player to back off and prepare for the more difficult next phase.
I know it’s a little late for this, but if you have kick as your ash of war you can instantly set up the shield Crucible for a riposte if he’s blocking.
Ordovis GS is one of the most underrated broken weapons in the game. Insane damage, ludicrous stance damage, and the holy isnt much of an inconvenience at all since the vast majority of the damage is physical. Also charged ashes are goated because they get boosts from both godfrey icon and shard of alexander. Tree is fantastic too, I just prefer the vortex skill
Yeah, charged ashes are NUTTY
Actually watched a run earlier where they got the tail to kill Margit, killed the crucible knight to get the horn, and apparently the horn even throws crucible knights in the air. So he used that to get the armor and sword. I know it doesn’t fit the rules of the run, but that’s still pretty cool.
Cool MGS3:Snake Eater reference at 3:23.
8:30 AMEN my friend. A fricking MEN!
You should totally do a banished knight secret starting class!
I am implementing the "Get the garlic toast" quote in my life from now on :D
Hey bro, I love the content man
I appreciate that 😢
Fun fact: while siluria's name comes from a prehistoric era (silurian age), in italian it's one of the ways you'd call a feminine version of a missile, so like "missilette" (with the real standard male version being "siluro").
Which is kind of accurate with the way the ash of war works... 😂
Ran Ordovis GS in a co-op playthrough. Was worried that the Holy dmg would be an issue against RadaBeast. It wasn't. Amazing weapons, just wish we got the last two crucible incantations. Maybe the DLC.
For the 4 parry square:
They parry for the first phase smd stop for the second because first phase has more parryable attacks.
Also in first season, they parry even after 4 parries to get the opening to stun with unsheathe, just not in second season because they usually gave to 2 hand their weapons and dont know how to capitalize on the openings as they dont choose their weapons
so hype for crucible wings in the dlc
I was surprised the spear AoW did that well. Think I ended up passing on it because I assumed it would be pure holy damage but... looks like I was mistaken.
Kinda surprised you didn't go with the beastclaw seal. I understand you wouldn't want to kill the first mariner before it was too late but, eh, it's fine. I've used the spells lots and have to say they have their place.
Breath is indeed hard to justify, even boosting it with roar, scorpion, etc... The damage just isn't there when, say, the Dragon Communion breaths are a straight upgrade, more or less.
The horns DO have their uses in putting some enemies in a KD loop. If you have something like a big Ash of War or spell to wind up while they're getting up and all it's pretty neat.
And shame you didn't use Tail because I think it's my favourite. Takes getting used to the wind up but one thing it DOES have going for it is that it has a high atk value, so a lot of enemies will flinch AND it deals really good stance pressure. So it does have its uses, for sure even if, yeah, it's hard to justify pressing a different button when Siluria's Woe is putting in that much work
What seal would be the best for the crucible set?