If Flowey makes it to Smash, I have the perfect idea for a trailer. Basically, Frisk gets a letter saying their in smash or something like that and it’s all super dramatic and stuff and then Flowey just throws a friendliness pellet at them and steals the letter.
Papyrus' final smash should be goofy as hell if he actually got included. In my mind, should be like: "HERE COMES MY SPECIAL ATTACK!" And it's just the annoying dog with a bone and papyrus after finishing the final smash going "OH NO! MY SPECIAL ATTACK!"
@@Solesteam DELTARUNE COULD HAVE NEW SANS HOUSE DIALOGUE! Papyrus from the other side of the door: "Sorry! I can't come to the door right now! I'm smashing my brothers!" Sans next to you: "uhh, don't listen to him. that was poor wording"
@@steveburger01 1. asgore isnt a final boss 2. when toriel took out asgore in pacifist the fight hadnt even started. he wasnt prepared 3. flowey wasnt in his final boss form when she used the fireball on him
I think even though sans is a more popular pick and I would be also really happy to play him, I think papyrus is in my opinion the best pick for smash because he pretty much captures the weirdness and humor of undertale as a whole.
I have so many ideas for Papyrus attacks (also if Papyrus gets added, Sans should at least be part of one of his attacks) Also Papyrus or Sans could have a hidden Gaster costume if Toby decides to show off Gaster's actual appearance. If he random decides to do that, by hidden I mean like VERY specific inputs nobody would do unless they were a button smasher while shifting through costumes.
Another thing about Papyrus is that you can also incorporate traps into his moveset, whether they actually work as intended or not is up to you. Good video all around, Duke. And I can't believe you never even considered Jerry smh
About that Undyne costume bit, Lucas has a Claus alt. Lucas and Claus definitely aren’t the same person. Oh also great video keep it up, you’re super underrated.
11:10 actually it's basically directly stated that the determination she feels in this moment is natural. So while it'd still be technically "weird" since she technically dies to trigger the change in canon, it still would be less weird than you thought. the determination to win could theoretically trigger the same change in smash just fine.
For Asriel, I don't think playing as child Asriel is a good idea. Maybe for his stage intro he could be child Asriel then turn into GoH Asriel, and have the final smash be the second phase for Asriel where he spams rainbow bullet things all around the stage, but child Asriel doesn't really have anything. He might have fire magic, but that's kind of it. Which is also the reason Toriel wouldn't be a good pick for a fighter, because they'd have like no attack variety whatsoever
Mettaton is the perfect secondary representation After the main character and possibly villian the interesting play style or personality pick just makes sense as the next in line and metattons showboating and gimmicks would be a great addition
Personally, I’d Pick flowey, plenty of opportunity for interesting attacks He’d probably end up being either a trapper zoner, or a disjoint zoner, but who knows? Flowey could potentially utilize the SAVE ability, more like a placable teleport endpoint, and teleporting to it upon next use, but then he has to place one down again, and cuz flowers are very much *NOT* heavy, he’d probably fall near pichu on the weight scale
Instead of putting base Asriel with the Asriel Dreemurr boss as a final smash, you could just make the playable character phase 1 of Asriel Dreemurr, and the final smash could be his Hyper Goner attack. Also for an Asgore final smash, rings of fireballs could swarm the stage, or it could be a contact final smash where if he’s close enough to an opponent, he uses the trident to impale them kinda like how he breaks the mercy button in Undertale.
In my opinion I think the two main characters that would get into smash are Papyrus and Frisk. Toby likes to use Papyrus much more than sans through funny jokes and scenarios, and Frisk being the protagonist is also a good pick. However one character I see that MIGHT also have a chance… even if it’s a small one is Mad Mew Mew. Toby really likes to use Mad Mew Mew for promotional art and the newsletters, not to mention Smash is on switch, the same console Mad Mew Mew was introduced with a boss fight. Although I think Mad Mew Mew has a fraction, if not even less of a chance that Papyrus and Frisk has, Mad Mew Mew is more likely to get in than Mettaton or Toriel.
Honestly i would like if papyrus joined sans would be sitting in the background he does literally nothing but sleep watch the fight and say a pun during one of papyrus's taunts to anger him Like sans IS there but is doing what he does best.... nothing@@batdogduke
love the editing style here! great job! personally i would use frisk, but their specials summon their friends from undertale, satisfying the want to have more than one undertale character in the game.... or just papyrus! lolololol
Thank you! Frisk's the most likely out of anyone imo and I actually really really like your idea of summon specials. Kind of makes me think of Alear from Fire Emblem: Engage, (a character of which I'd also like to see in Smash). Maybe if you land one particular special enough times, the victory screen would include that character? Overall, really cool idea!
wrong, the most likely is me, W.D Gaster, sorry i lied, the most likely is Everybodys favorite {{number one rated salsmen1997}} spam... spamton g spamton
Even though i don't really agree with some of the takes in the video, i still think it was pretty well made and entertaining. Nice commentary and editing in general, it'd be neat to get to watch more videos in a similar style in the future. Lot of potential here 👍
Heyhey! Thank you for your honesty. What did you find yourself disagreeing with? I'm always open to other insights/thoughts on Smash subjects cause I think the topic tends to get toxic too quickly.
it wasn't anything too deep, i just think it would be pretty much almost impossible for any character other than frisk or sans to ever become a playable character in the game, maaaaaaybe papyrus could have a good enough chance to get in due to his popularity but i still think it'd be quite unlikeable
I think flowey would work best like Joker where he has a meter that fills up and turns him into Azriel where he's much more powerful for a little while, but he isn't nearly as strong while he's regular flowey.
frisk would be the perfect character you caan use the yellow soul for projectiles the green soul for blocking the blue sould to make you heavier so you dont easily get knocked off stage the red soul as the main sould and the purple soul could maybe be use as like a recovery
Toby would choose Kris (or Susie) but this of course would have to be after Deltarune, because then Kris could use all of the soul mechanics in their attacks (just like frisk but objectively better in every way) Also we gotta keep in mind that Toby never intended for Undertale to be remembered, his plan was to sweep it under the rug and make the REAL game of his career; Deltarune is his real passion. After that Papyrus would be next up because Toby would find it funny (the reveal trailer would be Sans finding the smash letter in his mailbox and reading it. "what? 'On behalf of Nintendo Co., Ltd, we would like to invite you to be a playable fighter in Super Smash Brothers.' huh... nah I'll pass. Hey Paps, Gotchu a gift!" and hands it to papyrus) Also Flowey would work great as an assist trophy, have him act as a save point (if you hit the blast zone without being slammed into it; then Flowey LOADs and you warp to his location. he would then go away after use)
Kris or Susie would probably end up being amazing, but for simplicity's sake I only went with UT for this one, as it's the far more popular and impactful game. By the time Deltarune's finished, I'd say that Kris, Susie, Ralsei, or Noelle would be amazing choices for fighters!
@@batdogduke Noelle could be cooler for a Castle Town stage where all non Smash Playable party members are present, along with all darkners; swapping based on the fountain (Noelle, Berdly and Queen in cyberwold back drop, Catti and Jockington in Chap 4 backdrop, etc)
@@batdogduke Also, yeah; I figured that was your reasoning for not mentioning them. I just really wanted to mention them because I LOVE Kris. Not the acronym, I mean. :/
I'd imagine Papyrus's character trailer being a fake out Sans one. Sans receives the invite, you see the splash screen, and he says he doesn't care for that and just hands it to Papyrus. Cue the real splash screen and gameplay.
Okay here’s my idea: Sans & Papyrus Duo fighter. Papyrus does all of the fighting while Sans sits in the background like the Pokémon trainer. Sans does literally nothing the entire match. He doesn’t help Papyrus from the background for Specials, he doesn’t pitch in for the Final Smash, he doesn’t even do anything for the taunts. He’s just…there. But it’s *technically* Sans in Smash, so you can’t really complain?
if they went the extra mile with undyne, they could keep police undyne’s move set exactly the same but she uses a broom and any magic attacks could be replaced with a normal thing like dropping things or a water bucket, only different visually
An idea I’ve heard is that Flowey wouldn’t use a flowerpot because it’s to cartoonish and not something he’d subject himself too. Instead, he’d crawl around with his roots and burrow underground for a crawl.
Tbh, for frisk, i think they should have two modes with different ultimates, genocide should have charas erasure slash thing and pacifist should have toriels intimidate
Sans and Papyrus could work as a duo, Papyrus being the main fighter and once you reach 100% Sans becomes your fighter, maybe having some insane dodges but is one of the lightest fighters in the roster who has insane kill power. So the gameplay would be living long enough to let Sans onto the field while the other player is trying to take the stock before 100%. Sans could have his hotdog stand in the background and just naps, maybe he slowly wakes up as Papyrus' damage gets higher. Could be fun
Pretty good idea. I kind of imagine that the duo would play like the inverse of Joker. You can activate the vastly stronger fighter, Sans, at any point while fighting, but once you've used up Sans's ability to fight, he becomes absent from battle like B&J's Wonder Wing essentially making Papyrus have 2 specials instead of 3. You could even use the same mechanic for Sans, making his Bad Time mode a different moveset and his normal one his usual, joking personality. It fits well with Sans's canonical self, too. He can get serious at any point he feels he needs to, but he's never brought to action unless he wants to be.
God of Hyperdeath Asriel could be interesting, his boss fight has a lot of attacks to pull from, but I’m not sure how I feel about spoiling the final boss in smash
I agree with these ratings. As for Muffet, she's a Kickstarter backer character so she probably wouldn't make further appearances. This seems to be forgotten pretty often since she isn't a secret boss like the other two and her designer isn't as infamous as that of So Sorry.
Undertale deserves the recognition and honor from joining Smash Bros, though if that didn't happen, I'd still be happy to have an Undertale rep in Fraymakers. I think this game would blow up huge from having one of the biggest indies ever in their crossover.
Flowey's Final Smash could turn him to Asriel for a bit. He'd need the SOULs of course, but for all I care they could just appear behind him before he transforms.
11:00 not only that, but technically, there's nothing in Undertale that goes against her being able to revert black to her base form. I mean, she melts only because she was killed and used more determination than her body could handle. It's just a supposition, but maybe she could
I think Sans would work best as a duo fighter with Papyrus. Have Papyrus do most of the heavy lifting, and Sans would only get involved when he actually has to do something
Yes yes yes you're one of very few people in the replies here advocating for a duo sans/paps fighter and I absolutely love it. I just didn't mention that idea cause I wanted to focus on a solo character this time around
@@batdogduke yeah I get that. I just think it fits Sans’ character to allow Papyrus to do most of the fighting, and maybe step in when Papyrus takes enough damage to assist/buff his moves by mixing in his own gimmicks
Here’s a list of my ideas for every main bosses final smash Frisk - bunch of knife slash spam around the stage Flowey - photoshop flowey, like you said Toriel: a bunch of fireballs flying around the screen Papyrus: his final “regular attack” (Y’know the one with the “cool dude” and the giant bone) Sans: his final attack before the fight ends Undyne: spears rain down on the stage Mettaton: uhh… I’ll be honest I can’t think of anything… Asgore: his giant red spear stabs into someone next to you, dealing a high amount of damage for 5 seconds (similar to Kirby’s) Asriel (boss form): transforms into the god of hyperdeath, shooting the laser things (idk what they are called) at a rapid pace. Alright I think that’s everyone. BONUS!: amalgamates, they would act like the Pokémon trainer, how they can switch out to different characters, Their final smash would be that one teeth attack where you gotta go to the empty spot before it clamps down Out of any character, *I* would personally want papyrus, he could have a very cool and unique move set, like most dlc characters, maybe incorporating blue bones, blue soul (increased gravity), maybe even traps? And his final smash could be many things, his final attack in his original fight, whatever his “special attack” is, or a completely original attack! I would totally main papyrus
14:32 I was thinking of the moment of him using his trident to break the Mercy button...maybe something like that, a hit of pure strength with his trident, that could potentially insta kill characters with high percent, like some other final smashes do (Giga bowser's punch insta killing you if you have too much percent)
Asgore's final smash is actually easy. He has a cut attack where he plunges his trident into the ground, spewing fireballs in all directions. If you wanna see what that would look like, it was used in the TS!Underswap fangame.
frisk having alts where they wear the armour items from the previous humans that you get throughout undertale would be silly and fun. would require extra rigging for the apron though if it were to move properly so i get why not. also works perfectly if the 7th alt is chara or at the very least frisk in charas clothing.
I think the best outcome is a Sans and Papyrus Duo that can switch with Down-B with Sans being a Glass Canon and Papyrus being a more sturdy balanced fighter
More than one would be hype, but I feel realistically only one would be chosen, given Smash's track record of series that should have more than 1 fighter but don't (Sonic)
@@batdogduke though I still think it would be pretty fun considering Pokémon has like 50 and we could get to in the form of as I said, earlier, papyrus, and sans as a switchable duo
15:25 Maybe Asriel could be another form of Flowey and you could steal the soul of someone to transform into Asriel? I mean, They *are* the same character.
Maybe a meter like Joker, or Shulk have? But it'd only last for that stock, after that, he'd be Flowey on the next, that or he'd take a stock from the player with the highest stock count after filling the meter (Which takes a while), and then be Asriel for a short period of time, like any other meter.
Okay hear me out,*Seam for Smash*,I know it's impossibile for him work in smash but it's my favorite character along with spamton and lancer.Maybe seam could use some object he sells,cup of tea and some jevil attack
Personally, I think Asriel as a fighter would work better as his True Pacifist boss form to begin with, as his Kid form, and his true self, much like you said, would be ill suited to be a fighter in smash for various reasons, but if he was in his god form, well, he has a WIDE variety of attacks, stars, lightning, swords, blasters, plus in his adult form, he's more powerful and his personality matches more in line with Flowey. Then for his Final Smash, he'd turn into his Angel of Death form and use his rainbow beam to blast anyone caught in the smash, like he does with Frisk's soul in the fight. He would be less likely than Undyne, Sans or ASGORE, but as someone who LOVES his arc and the Dreemurr Family as a whole, I can only hope that I may see one of the goat fam as smash fighters.
Hype up Sans, but then actually pick Papyrus. Maybe have the trailer make it pretty clear that Sans is supposed to be invited, but Sans doesn't really feel like it, so he gives his invite to Papyrus instead, knowing that he'd appreciate it.
you could have suggested asriel in a better way like in p1 he have lighting , sword , blaster/gun , stars and big star In p2 ( i think god of hyperdeath ) he got fireballs , final attack laser beam and most importantly lost souls Like if p2 is the only thing in smash and p1 gets shafted every move could be a monster summon and final attack could be the laser beam
Ok, here is my idea for Undertale Representation- We get Papyrus + Sans. Papyrus is the main fighter, while Sans is just big chillin in the back ground, maybe swapping between a lawn chair, his little hut, and him just sleeping standing up. Papyrus would fight how we have wanted Waluigi to be in his neutrals, with a bone instead of a racket. His specials are the different things he does in his fight, with his perfect shield a wall of blue bones that slightly damage the opponent when attacking with a physical attack. Ya know, because to attack you have to be moving. His grabs would have him make a blue aura around his target, and depending on what kind of throw, he would either send you up into the air with a bone or slime you into the ground and throw bones at you to smack you to whatever side. It may not have much launch power or damage, but they are fast and would work really well as starters for a combo. Whenever one of the moves that involves a Gaster Blaster shows up, we could have Sans open an eye with the blue/yellow ring effect, since we don't ACTUALLY know if Paps' special attack was a Gaster Blaster, so it could either be sans helping his bro, secretly having his back, or be just him noticing papyrus was using his big move. The final smash would be "MegalaTrousal", where sans does a little shrug and helps out by using his blue attack on EVERYONE, slamming them down, as Papyrus throws a HOARD of bones, much like his big massive final attack in his fight, before Sans finally summons a massive Gaster Blaster that goes across the area where the game assumes all the characters will be. The thing is, this Final Smash does very little damage over all, and the only part that actually launches is the final blaster, and not very well unless at high percents. BUT, that first part, where Sans forces everyone to the ground? That will happen even if you are over the ledge- in other words... it is really flashy but not really good... unless you happen to have no ground beneath you. In which case you are gonna end up like Offstage Little Mac. Good news? Sans is so lazy, it takes a moment for him to do his little shrug, so if you are JUST offstage, you can probably sneak back on. It also won't take you off the ledge if you are hanging on, but that puts you in a very awkward situation to try and defend yourself against a hoard of bones and a master blaster while off stage, while everyone else is safe... taking a bit of damage, but relatively safe. Finally, Toriel as an assist trophy who heals the user for 20%, then sends a wave of fireballs to any opponents for 15s. They are easy to block/dodge. However, if Toriel actually defeats someone, either by being the last one to hit them when they are knocked out of the arena, or by sending their hp to zero on stamina mode, she will do her little 'oh no' face, and instantly poof away, even if she was only there for a moment.
For ashore I think the only possibke fu I am smash would be an interpretation of him absorbing the souls (something he does in genocide apparently but we never see) and unleash a massive attack at the opponent Perhaps having a secret results screen like joker where he breaks the barrier himself
Asgore taking the power for himself was something I considered, but after giving it some thought, I wasn't sure if that was actually in character for him. The only reason is because he seems overly reluctant by the time Frisk comes along, wanting to just be a father figure again rather than some glorious ruler. Regardless, I like your ideas! Definitely solid possibilities for Asgore.
He definetly never did take the souls 1 he would have a eldrich horror appearence since monsters with human souls turn into horrible beasts let alone 6 2 if he had the souls frisk even at LV20 would stand nothing even remotely close to a chance
here is my take on the opinion best for a fighting game - Undyne (final smash: The Undying) best for Undertale - Sans (a glass cannon fighter (final smash: his opening move)) best for Smash Bros. - Frisk (they are the main player character (with half the alts. being Chara (Chara isn't evil, our actions are))) bonus Susie from Deltaruna (to add a Deltarune rep.)
I’m not sure about shores final smash either, But all I know is it would end with him smashing his trident through your percentage meter Ui and breaking it thus eliminating your character and setting it to 99%
I remember speculation before Brawl came out. People were saying that because Dragon Quest was so popular, it was bound to get a character. And the character people collectively thought was most likely was Slime because it's basically a mascot. Following in tradition, I'll predict Undertale will get its basic enemy. Froggit confirmed.
@@batdogdukeI imagine one of the victory screens would be Flowey killing the last opponent, then loading and killing them again, and again, and again.
playable flowey would be fun but he might work better as a marx esque omega flowey bossfight. although thatd probably be like borderline miserable to fight
I would personally choose Asgore over Toriel, Frisk, Sans or like anyone, he is my fav character and would love to see what his moveset would be like (and final smash). Also, since he is the king of all monsters, an elder being and literally the strongest monster in the underground and that in his fights he is clearly suppressing his powers (unlike sans for example), I would love to see the extended of his powers in a fighting game.
(saying this before finishing watching the video) my bet is on Undyne, like... COME ON!! she doesn't get enough recognition. look, i know people would love Sans... but let's give that guy the break he deserves, not saying i hate him! but he's just way too overrated in my opinion compared to the whole Undertale cast (aside from Papyrus). she would be the most reasonable to have in Smash, BUT... i wouldn't mind if any other characters were to be picked, more strength to those who get to have their favorite ones join!
I dont think the piranha plant existing has any sort of bearing on if flowey would get picked Flowey is a really interesting choice and could have an extremely interesting moveset given his abilities
@@batdogduke bowser, ridley, k rool, ans yoshi are all reptiles and they're all in, I'm really not understanding how having one plant fighter would imply flowey has a lower chance here, especially since he doesn't have to be contained in a pot
I really like BrawlFan1's idea of having sans & papyrus being a pseudo tag-team were sans fights after papyrus was knocked out (it could also switch with each stock). I also really like the idea asgore being in smash, but would most likely need frisk for the vilain/protag duo like mario/bowser and link/ganon.
I think flowey and undyne would be the most fitting, given how combative undyne is, and how demented and evil flowey is, and how many directions his moveset could go in. Though what would be the best is probably for papyrus to be a character since it would be a sans/papyrus duo, and it would be very accurate to their dynamic and sans’s personality for him to be fine with them using his likeness, but not wanting to fight. Assist Trophies: Alphys: could stand awkwardly then press a button, sending blue and orange lasers from either side Undyne: will switch between shooting 1-3 spears at every enemy and spawning spears from the floor Flowey: will stay on the floor where he spawned shooting friendliness pellets, but if anybody gets too close he will grab them with vines (like T. Paci) repeatly dealing damage until they escape button mashing (will be doing his evil laugh during this) Alt: omega flowey (absolute chaos) Asgore: will spawn 2 fire spiral thingies in the top corners that will do small damage with every fireball hit Items: Bone: scales with HP, the lower the percent the smaller/weaker the bone (move speed scales with stage size) Spear: if tilt charged fully will do a green slash, stunning If thrown will make a bunch of spears come out of the surrounding floor If it hits someone when thrown will make a bunch of smaller spears rain down on them Worn dagger: charged tilt spawns a slash right where nearest enemy is, can be avoided. If fully charged becomes real knife making slash deal more damage and be undodgeable Final smashes: Toriel: would launch a single fireball and if it hits it would knock them into the ceiling of the underground (basically what toriel does to flowey) and if it hits floor would light that spot on fire Asgore: the start of his battle would play “It was nice meeting you Human, goodbye” and he would throw his trident at the UI of whichever enemy the player selects. Depending on balancing this could either just deal a lot of % and remove all item pieces, or it could take a whole stock away Papyrus: would just be a super cool regular attack Flowey: either omega flowey, or he could use his tried and false pellet circle but this time it actually works, doing an insane amount of knockback
If Flowey makes it to Smash, I have the perfect idea for a trailer. Basically, Frisk gets a letter saying their in smash or something like that and it’s all super dramatic and stuff and then Flowey just throws a friendliness pellet at them and steals the letter.
LMAO good idea, that'd be funny as hell (especially cause the reaction videos would go bonkers)
That's possible, I mean, look at Piranha Plant!
It would be funny if the letter then got kncoked away by toriel then toby stole it
Papyrus' final smash should be goofy as hell if he actually got included.
In my mind, should be like:
"HERE COMES MY SPECIAL ATTACK!" And it's just the annoying dog with a bone and papyrus after finishing the final smash going "OH NO! MY SPECIAL ATTACK!"
Absolutely 101% agreed. The annoying dog literally HAS to be part of his character somehow
@@batdogduke what if randomly having any of his attacks whiff by being replaced by the dog; it deals no damage; just dog
@@Solesteam Yep, that's peak. Sounds like Papyrus as well
@@Solesteam DELTARUNE COULD HAVE NEW SANS HOUSE DIALOGUE!
Papyrus from the other side of the door: "Sorry! I can't come to the door right now! I'm smashing my brothers!"
Sans next to you: "uhh, don't listen to him. that was poor wording"
@@autistic_potato1037 that would make him a character no one would wanna play tho :/
9:55 Fun fact: Her house burnt down before you see her in those clothes, so that’s Papyrus’s clothes, not hers
Huh, never thought about it like that, I guess that would make sense
It could also just be that since she’s probably been over there before, she had a change of clothes
1. I'm pretty sure Papyrus only has 2 outfits
2. She could have bought clothes
3: The shirt looks a bit thin for Papyrus
@@Halberds8122papyrus has other clothes, he just chooses to never wear anything other than his battle body usually, as stated by sans
Or you know she bought just bought them being head of the royal guards probably pays well
For toriel's final smash, she would obviously use the one fireball move she uses on flowey and asgore.
Someone else brought up this idea but with a bit more to it, and yeah, that's a good idea I'd say
wouldnt that be her neutral b?
@@elianhg2144 Naw, this one fireball attack took out two of 4 final bosses.
@@steveburger01 1. asgore isnt a final boss
2. when toriel took out asgore in pacifist the fight hadnt even started. he wasnt prepared
3. flowey wasnt in his final boss form when she used the fireball on him
That's too lame for a final smash.
Bro, put the fun gang in Smash. Let them work like Pokemon Trainer.
Fun gang would be hype, just gotta wait to see their true potential first! I'm sure Toby will cook something spicy with em
Nah, we don't know their Full Potential. Send in the Genocide Trio, Undyne the Undying, Mettaton NEO and sans.
dont you mean the lancer fan club?
@@leafytheleaf9452 ah, I see. A man of culture
I don't know who this "Fung Gang" you are talking about is, I only know The $&*# Squad
Mario would be an amazing for smashbros
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Fr but it’s so unlikely
I think even though sans is a more popular pick and I would be also really happy to play him, I think papyrus is in my opinion the best pick for smash because he pretty much captures the weirdness and humor of undertale as a whole.
True Paps is so good
I have so many ideas for Papyrus attacks (also if Papyrus gets added, Sans should at least be part of one of his attacks)
Also Papyrus or Sans could have a hidden Gaster costume if Toby decides to show off Gaster's actual appearance. If he random decides to do that, by hidden I mean like VERY specific inputs nobody would do unless they were a button smasher while shifting through costumes.
Another thing about Papyrus is that you can also incorporate traps into his moveset, whether they actually work as intended or not is up to you. Good video all around, Duke.
And I can't believe you never even considered Jerry smh
Jerry would be too powerful, more so than Steve
Jerry is too Jerry for smash.
@@batdogduke jerry too op everyone would ragequit
I can totally see Toby making a short trailer for smash where it clearly hints at Sans, then having him be an assist trophy or something
Fake outs / jokes are imbedded in Toby's blood so yeah, a fake out of Sans to someone else would probably end up happening, lol
clover pfp nice
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the bird that carries you. it would carry you over one gap in the campaign map and that would be all
This is the best idea ever
Asgores final smash could be him breaking the block button temporarily
Yo wait that sounds kinda hype actually
About that Undyne costume bit, Lucas has a Claus alt. Lucas and Claus definitely aren’t the same person.
Oh also great video keep it up, you’re super underrated.
11:10 actually it's basically directly stated that the determination she feels in this moment is natural. So while it'd still be technically "weird" since she technically dies to trigger the change in canon, it still would be less weird than you thought. the determination to win could theoretically trigger the same change in smash just fine.
For Asriel, I don't think playing as child Asriel is a good idea. Maybe for his stage intro he could be child Asriel then turn into GoH Asriel, and have the final smash be the second phase for Asriel where he spams rainbow bullet things all around the stage, but child Asriel doesn't really have anything. He might have fire magic, but that's kind of it. Which is also the reason Toriel wouldn't be a good pick for a fighter, because they'd have like no attack variety whatsoever
Mettaton is the perfect secondary representation
After the main character and possibly villian the interesting play style or personality pick just makes sense as the next in line and metattons showboating and gimmicks would be a great addition
I would love to see Mettaton and Bayonetta duke it out just to see who has the most sass
somehow, clover from undertale yellow gets in
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Personally, I’d Pick flowey, plenty of opportunity for interesting attacks
He’d probably end up being either a trapper zoner, or a disjoint zoner, but who knows?
Flowey could potentially utilize the SAVE ability, more like a placable teleport endpoint, and teleporting to it upon next use, but then he has to place one down again, and cuz flowers are very much *NOT* heavy, he’d probably fall near pichu on the weight scale
High quality and good audio. Great video!
Instead of putting base Asriel with the Asriel Dreemurr boss as a final smash, you could just make the playable character phase 1 of Asriel Dreemurr, and the final smash could be his Hyper Goner attack.
Also for an Asgore final smash, rings of fireballs could swarm the stage, or it could be a contact final smash where if he’s close enough to an opponent, he uses the trident to impale them kinda like how he breaks the mercy button in Undertale.
In my opinion I think the two main characters that would get into smash are Papyrus and Frisk. Toby likes to use Papyrus much more than sans through funny jokes and scenarios, and Frisk being the protagonist is also a good pick.
However one character I see that MIGHT also have a chance… even if it’s a small one is Mad Mew Mew. Toby really likes to use Mad Mew Mew for promotional art and the newsletters, not to mention Smash is on switch, the same console Mad Mew Mew was introduced with a boss fight.
Although I think Mad Mew Mew has a fraction, if not even less of a chance that Papyrus and Frisk has, Mad Mew Mew is more likely to get in than Mettaton or Toriel.
Interesting perspective! Yeah, Mad Mad Mew would be pretty out of left field but I'd welcome it!
Honestly i would like if papyrus joined sans would be sitting in the background he does literally nothing but sleep watch the fight and say a pun during one of papyrus's taunts to anger him
Like sans IS there but is doing what he does best.... nothing@@batdogduke
love the editing style here! great job! personally i would use frisk, but their specials summon their friends from undertale, satisfying the want to have more than one undertale character in the game.... or just papyrus! lolololol
Thank you! Frisk's the most likely out of anyone imo and I actually really really like your idea of summon specials. Kind of makes me think of Alear from Fire Emblem: Engage, (a character of which I'd also like to see in Smash).
Maybe if you land one particular special enough times, the victory screen would include that character? Overall, really cool idea!
wrong, the most likely is me, W.D Gaster, sorry i lied, the most likely is Everybodys favorite {{number one rated salsmen1997}} spam... spamton g spamton
and yes, spamton undertale is real, anyone who says the contrary, is lying, dont trust them!
Even though i don't really agree with some of the takes in the video, i still think it was pretty well made and entertaining. Nice commentary and editing in general, it'd be neat to get to watch more videos in a similar style in the future. Lot of potential here 👍
Heyhey! Thank you for your honesty.
What did you find yourself disagreeing with? I'm always open to other insights/thoughts on Smash subjects cause I think the topic tends to get toxic too quickly.
it wasn't anything too deep, i just think it would be pretty much almost impossible for any character other than frisk or sans to ever become a playable character in the game, maaaaaaybe papyrus could have a good enough chance to get in due to his popularity but i still think it'd be quite unlikeable
I think flowey would work best like Joker where he has a meter that fills up and turns him into Azriel where he's much more powerful for a little while, but he isn't nearly as strong while he's regular flowey.
It's asriel not azriel
@@Autisticnetwork My typos are asriel as it gets. 😭
@@thatweirdphoneguystickman5596 lolololololololol
I feel Like Frisk is the obvious choice they repent the game well
Yeah they repent it perfectly 🫠👍
frisk would be the perfect character you caan use the yellow soul for projectiles the green soul for blocking the blue sould to make you heavier so you dont easily get knocked off stage the red soul as the main sould and the purple soul could maybe be use as like a recovery
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as a flowey enjoyer I am devastated. you planted a friendly seed in my soul just to rip it all away batdogduke.
I like Chara's rendition in Rivals of Aether.
Having self damaging moves and a Save/Load move that also reverts health to the previous value.
flowey would work but you'll catch me dead before playing him if he's in a pot
Get this man to a 100k subs. Didnt even realize this video was from a small channel.
omg thank u thank u :)
i feel like if MMM was in smash they would be DLC since the console exclusives were basically dlc
true, good point
I guess Asgore's final smash could be a reference to his unused scream/roar attack?
Toby would choose Kris (or Susie) but this of course would have to be after Deltarune, because then Kris could use all of the soul mechanics in their attacks (just like frisk but objectively better in every way)
Also we gotta keep in mind that Toby never intended for Undertale to be remembered, his plan was to sweep it under the rug and make the REAL game of his career; Deltarune is his real passion.
After that Papyrus would be next up because Toby would find it funny (the reveal trailer would be Sans finding the smash letter in his mailbox and reading it. "what? 'On behalf of Nintendo Co., Ltd, we would like to invite you to be a playable fighter in Super Smash Brothers.' huh... nah I'll pass. Hey Paps, Gotchu a gift!" and hands it to papyrus)
Also Flowey would work great as an assist trophy, have him act as a save point (if you hit the blast zone without being slammed into it; then Flowey LOADs and you warp to his location. he would then go away after use)
Kris or Susie would probably end up being amazing, but for simplicity's sake I only went with UT for this one, as it's the far more popular and impactful game. By the time Deltarune's finished, I'd say that Kris, Susie, Ralsei, or Noelle would be amazing choices for fighters!
@@batdogduke Noelle could be cooler for a Castle Town stage where all non Smash Playable party members are present, along with all darkners; swapping based on the fountain (Noelle, Berdly and Queen in cyberwold back drop, Catti and Jockington in Chap 4 backdrop, etc)
@@batdogduke Also, yeah; I figured that was your reasoning for not mentioning them. I just really wanted to mention them because I LOVE Kris. Not the acronym, I mean. :/
THIS IS INCREDIBLE, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW YOU AREN'T MORE POPULAR
hahaha, you're too kind!
@@batdogduke NOT AT ALL YOU'RE INCREDIBLY ENTERTAINING
I just realised he doesnt have even a 1000 subscribers. This HAS to blow up
I'd imagine Papyrus's character trailer being a fake out Sans one. Sans receives the invite, you see the splash screen, and he says he doesn't care for that and just hands it to Papyrus. Cue the real splash screen and gameplay.
Okay here’s my idea:
Sans & Papyrus Duo fighter.
Papyrus does all of the fighting while Sans sits in the background like the Pokémon trainer.
Sans does literally nothing the entire match. He doesn’t help Papyrus from the background for Specials, he doesn’t pitch in for the Final Smash, he doesn’t even do anything for the taunts. He’s just…there.
But it’s *technically* Sans in Smash, so you can’t really complain?
Halfway through the match Sans disappears and comes back with a Hot Dog 20 seconds later.
if they went the extra mile with undyne, they could keep police undyne’s move set exactly the same but she uses a broom and any magic attacks could be replaced with a normal thing like dropping things or a water bucket, only different visually
Tbh I’d like to see Muffet as a character, could have a really unique moveset
Rivals of Aether workshop has some amazing undertale charcters that would be cool to see in a vid
An idea I’ve heard is that Flowey wouldn’t use a flowerpot because it’s to cartoonish and not something he’d subject himself too. Instead, he’d crawl around with his roots and burrow underground for a crawl.
I think Photoshop/Omega Flowey & Asriel could be a really cool stage hazard
I think any main cast member can join, but every franchise includes the main protagonist
So Frisk needs to be Undertale’s first fighter
Loved this video, well hey if it ain’t gonna be Undertale I could see Spamton or Jevil making it into smash.
Thank you! Also yeah, either one of them would be hype
We already have a undertale character in smash bros (that isnt a 75¢ costume) and its ness-
Also Undyne the Undying costume for Undyne would work.
Tbh, for frisk, i think they should have two modes with different ultimates, genocide should have charas erasure slash thing and pacifist should have toriels intimidate
What do you mean exactly? Are you talking about after she interrupts Asgore before his fight?
@@skip-4259 the scaring froggit thing or the interrupting asgore thing ( I didn't put it because I didn't know what to call it )
final smash is asgore appearing to do a big attack and then offering toriel flowers and she declines
Sans and Papyrus could work as a duo, Papyrus being the main fighter and once you reach 100% Sans becomes your fighter, maybe having some insane dodges but is one of the lightest fighters in the roster who has insane kill power. So the gameplay would be living long enough to let Sans onto the field while the other player is trying to take the stock before 100%.
Sans could have his hotdog stand in the background and just naps, maybe he slowly wakes up as Papyrus' damage gets higher. Could be fun
Pretty good idea. I kind of imagine that the duo would play like the inverse of Joker. You can activate the vastly stronger fighter, Sans, at any point while fighting, but once you've used up Sans's ability to fight, he becomes absent from battle like B&J's Wonder Wing essentially making Papyrus have 2 specials instead of 3. You could even use the same mechanic for Sans, making his Bad Time mode a different moveset and his normal one his usual, joking personality. It fits well with Sans's canonical self, too. He can get serious at any point he feels he needs to, but he's never brought to action unless he wants to be.
Sans is the most popular charater. Probably him just because of his popularity. (If it up too me asgore would be cool)
I’d say that most likely is either Frisk because main character or Flowey because he’s the mascot basically and main villain.
I agree with flowey, wriggling and wavy lines crawling through the ground with a vine slam or pellet shoot attack same for the final .
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you say that like she doesn't easily vertically bench press a entire car.
I think asgore she’s final attack would be a Cinematic where he traps you in a jar like the other souls and attacks using an onslaught of attacks.
God of Hyperdeath Asriel could be interesting, his boss fight has a lot of attacks to pull from, but I’m not sure how I feel about spoiling the final boss in smash
I agree with these ratings.
As for Muffet, she's a Kickstarter backer character so she probably wouldn't make further appearances.
This seems to be forgotten pretty often since she isn't a secret boss like the other two and her designer isn't as infamous as that of So Sorry.
Undertale deserves the recognition and honor from joining Smash Bros, though if that didn't happen, I'd still be happy to have an Undertale rep in Fraymakers. I think this game would blow up huge from having one of the biggest indies ever in their crossover.
lets have jerry as a trophy where he acts like the dog from nintendogs, but there would be a rare chance of him raging and attacking the enemy
Flowey's Final Smash could turn him to Asriel for a bit.
He'd need the SOULs of course, but for all I care they could just appear behind him before he transforms.
11:00 not only that, but technically, there's nothing in Undertale that goes against her being able to revert black to her base form. I mean, she melts only because she was killed and used more determination than her body could handle.
It's just a supposition, but maybe she could
I think Sans would work best as a duo fighter with Papyrus. Have Papyrus do most of the heavy lifting, and Sans would only get involved when he actually has to do something
Yes yes yes you're one of very few people in the replies here advocating for a duo sans/paps fighter and I absolutely love it. I just didn't mention that idea cause I wanted to focus on a solo character this time around
@@batdogduke yeah I get that. I just think it fits Sans’ character to allow Papyrus to do most of the fighting, and maybe step in when Papyrus takes enough damage to assist/buff his moves by mixing in his own gimmicks
Asriel is literally the entire story of Undertale
“woahOhOHo-“
OH GOD NO I DIDNT MEAN THAT ONE
I fell fro- I SAID NOT THAT ONE
NO BEGONE WITH THAT RANCID SONG, DEMON
(true though)
@@batdogduke talk or should I fi- AAAAAAAAA
"Welcome to the Underground!"
@@zvgamingandstuff7633how was the fall
i could see annoying dog getting in they could use so of the other dogs moves
Do u think they'd keep the dog as a 2d sprite or make it 3d though? I think 2d would fit the humor and look really silly
2d would be humerus
Here’s a list of my ideas for every main bosses final smash
Frisk - bunch of knife slash spam around the stage
Flowey - photoshop flowey, like you said
Toriel: a bunch of fireballs flying around the screen
Papyrus: his final “regular attack” (Y’know the one with the “cool dude” and the giant bone)
Sans: his final attack before the fight ends
Undyne: spears rain down on the stage
Mettaton: uhh… I’ll be honest I can’t think of anything…
Asgore: his giant red spear stabs into someone next to you, dealing a high amount of damage for 5 seconds (similar to Kirby’s)
Asriel (boss form): transforms into the god of hyperdeath, shooting the laser things (idk what they are called) at a rapid pace.
Alright I think that’s everyone.
BONUS!: amalgamates, they would act like the Pokémon trainer, how they can switch out to different characters, Their final smash would be that one teeth attack where you gotta go to the empty spot before it clamps down
Out of any character, *I* would personally want papyrus, he could have a very cool and unique move set, like most dlc characters, maybe incorporating blue bones, blue soul (increased gravity), maybe even traps? And his final smash could be many things, his final attack in his original fight, whatever his “special attack” is, or a completely original attack!
I would totally main papyrus
14:32 I was thinking of the moment of him using his trident to break the Mercy button...maybe something like that, a hit of pure strength with his trident, that could potentially insta kill characters with high percent, like some other final smashes do (Giga bowser's punch insta killing you if you have too much percent)
For my neutral special, I wield Justice.
Undyne she would fit in well,I think cause it would add so,e balance and she is easy to add in my opinion just add her as a skin for A character
Sans got added as a skin so I would imagine frisk and chara being a ness skin.
Alternate series costumes would be wild
Asgore's final smash is actually easy. He has a cut attack where he plunges his trident into the ground, spewing fireballs in all directions.
If you wanna see what that would look like, it was used in the TS!Underswap fangame.
frisk having alts where they wear the armour items from the previous humans that you get throughout undertale would be silly and fun. would require extra rigging for the apron though if it were to move properly so i get why not. also works perfectly if the 7th alt is chara or at the very least frisk in charas clothing.
they’ve done entire different characters for alts before they can handle an apron
I think the best outcome is a Sans and Papyrus Duo that can switch with Down-B with Sans being a Glass Canon and Papyrus being a more sturdy balanced fighter
I think alphys should be like pokemon trainer but with amalgamates and the colored lasers for ult
For Asgore final smash he could absorb the six Human soul and have original form like gifa bowser
I’d say flowey since sans is a mii costume besides since he’s so recognizable to anyone even people outside the fandom sort of know about him
I hope it would be more than one. I think an interesting idea would be to like the Pokémon trainer switch between papyrus and sans.
More than one would be hype, but I feel realistically only one would be chosen, given Smash's track record of series that should have more than 1 fighter but don't (Sonic)
@@batdogduke though I still think it would be pretty fun considering Pokémon has like 50 and we could get to in the form of as I said, earlier, papyrus, and sans as a switchable duo
This is the video of all time
Thank you, o great Papyrus
sans. ik theres a sans mii fighter costume but megalovania also there should be a undertale music pack too
Bro it's illegal how little of UT music we got in Ultimate
15:25 Maybe Asriel could be another form of Flowey and you could steal the soul of someone to transform into Asriel?
I mean, They *are* the same character.
That's actually a really interesting idea, never woulda thought of that
Maybe a meter like Joker, or Shulk have? But it'd only last for that stock, after that, he'd be Flowey on the next, that or he'd take a stock from the player with the highest stock count after filling the meter (Which takes a while), and then be Asriel for a short period of time, like any other meter.
Okay hear me out,*Seam for Smash*,I know it's impossibile for him work in smash but it's my favorite character along with spamton and lancer.Maybe seam could use some object he sells,cup of tea and some jevil attack
Hear me out, Sans and Papyrus as a duo character that swap between them
Personally, I think Asriel as a fighter would work better as his True Pacifist boss form to begin with, as his Kid form, and his true self, much like you said, would be ill suited to be a fighter in smash for various reasons, but if he was in his god form, well, he has a WIDE variety of attacks, stars, lightning, swords, blasters, plus in his adult form, he's more powerful and his personality matches more in line with Flowey. Then for his Final Smash, he'd turn into his Angel of Death form and use his rainbow beam to blast anyone caught in the smash, like he does with Frisk's soul in the fight. He would be less likely than Undyne, Sans or ASGORE, but as someone who LOVES his arc and the Dreemurr Family as a whole, I can only hope that I may see one of the goat fam as smash fighters.
Hype up Sans, but then actually pick Papyrus.
Maybe have the trailer make it pretty clear that Sans is supposed to be invited, but Sans doesn't really feel like it, so he gives his invite to Papyrus instead, knowing that he'd appreciate it.
you could have suggested asriel in a better way like
in p1 he have lighting , sword , blaster/gun , stars and big star
In p2 ( i think god of hyperdeath ) he got fireballs , final attack laser beam and most importantly lost souls
Like if p2 is the only thing in smash and p1 gets shafted every move could be a monster summon and final attack could be the laser beam
Hear me out for an idea:
Mettaton
but
Alphys is in the background Pokémon trainer style helping him attack with like lasers and stuff
Okay I actually really dig that idea
it would also serve as a reference to Mettaton being instructed by Alphys to look good in front of Frisk
Honestly for Flowey I think his Final Smash should just be him turning into Asriel instead of having it be a separate character.
Ok, here is my idea for Undertale Representation-
We get Papyrus + Sans. Papyrus is the main fighter, while Sans is just big chillin in the back ground, maybe swapping between a lawn chair, his little hut, and him just sleeping standing up.
Papyrus would fight how we have wanted Waluigi to be in his neutrals, with a bone instead of a racket. His specials are the different things he does in his fight, with his perfect shield a wall of blue bones that slightly damage the opponent when attacking with a physical attack. Ya know, because to attack you have to be moving. His grabs would have him make a blue aura around his target, and depending on what kind of throw, he would either send you up into the air with a bone or slime you into the ground and throw bones at you to smack you to whatever side. It may not have much launch power or damage, but they are fast and would work really well as starters for a combo.
Whenever one of the moves that involves a Gaster Blaster shows up, we could have Sans open an eye with the blue/yellow ring effect, since we don't ACTUALLY know if Paps' special attack was a Gaster Blaster, so it could either be sans helping his bro, secretly having his back, or be just him noticing papyrus was using his big move.
The final smash would be "MegalaTrousal", where sans does a little shrug and helps out by using his blue attack on EVERYONE, slamming them down, as Papyrus throws a HOARD of bones, much like his big massive final attack in his fight, before Sans finally summons a massive Gaster Blaster that goes across the area where the game assumes all the characters will be. The thing is, this Final Smash does very little damage over all, and the only part that actually launches is the final blaster, and not very well unless at high percents. BUT, that first part, where Sans forces everyone to the ground? That will happen even if you are over the ledge- in other words... it is really flashy but not really good... unless you happen to have no ground beneath you. In which case you are gonna end up like Offstage Little Mac. Good news? Sans is so lazy, it takes a moment for him to do his little shrug, so if you are JUST offstage, you can probably sneak back on. It also won't take you off the ledge if you are hanging on, but that puts you in a very awkward situation to try and defend yourself against a hoard of bones and a master blaster while off stage, while everyone else is safe... taking a bit of damage, but relatively safe.
Finally, Toriel as an assist trophy who heals the user for 20%, then sends a wave of fireballs to any opponents for 15s. They are easy to block/dodge. However, if Toriel actually defeats someone, either by being the last one to hit them when they are knocked out of the arena, or by sending their hp to zero on stamina mode, she will do her little 'oh no' face, and instantly poof away, even if she was only there for a moment.
For ashore I think the only possibke fu I am smash would be an interpretation of him absorbing the souls (something he does in genocide apparently but we never see) and unleash a massive attack at the opponent
Perhaps having a secret results screen like joker where he breaks the barrier himself
Asgore taking the power for himself was something I considered, but after giving it some thought, I wasn't sure if that was actually in character for him. The only reason is because he seems overly reluctant by the time Frisk comes along, wanting to just be a father figure again rather than some glorious ruler. Regardless, I like your ideas! Definitely solid possibilities for Asgore.
He definetly never did take the souls
1 he would have a eldrich horror appearence since monsters with human souls turn into horrible beasts let alone 6
2 if he had the souls frisk even at LV20 would stand nothing even remotely close to a chance
here is my take on the opinion
best for a fighting game - Undyne (final smash: The Undying)
best for Undertale - Sans (a glass cannon fighter (final smash: his opening move))
best for Smash Bros. - Frisk (they are the main player character (with half the alts. being Chara (Chara isn't evil, our actions are)))
bonus
Susie from Deltaruna (to add a Deltarune rep.)
I’m not sure about shores final smash either,
But all I know is it would end with him smashing his trident through your percentage meter Ui and breaking it thus eliminating your character and setting it to 99%
I personally hope for papyrus, undyne, MTT, Sans, or alphys. They're all generally good. For sans he would be with papyrus fighting alongside as a duo
I remember speculation before Brawl came out. People were saying that because Dragon Quest was so popular, it was bound to get a character. And the character people collectively thought was most likely was Slime because it's basically a mascot.
Following in tradition, I'll predict Undertale will get its basic enemy. Froggit confirmed.
Flowey in smash should be insane
Just imagine the victory screens, how creepy they could be
MY FAVORITE CHARACTER HAS TO BE IN SMASH
@@batdogdukeI imagine one of the victory screens would be Flowey killing the last opponent, then loading and killing them again, and again, and again.
playable flowey would be fun but he might work better as a marx esque omega flowey bossfight. although thatd probably be like borderline miserable to fight
I would personally choose Asgore over Toriel, Frisk, Sans or like anyone, he is my fav character and would love to see what his moveset would be like (and final smash).
Also, since he is the king of all monsters, an elder being and literally the strongest monster in the underground and that in his fights he is clearly suppressing his powers (unlike sans for example), I would love to see the extended of his powers in a fighting game.
(saying this before finishing watching the video)
my bet is on Undyne, like... COME ON!! she doesn't get enough recognition.
look, i know people would love Sans... but let's give that guy the break he deserves, not saying i hate him! but he's just way too overrated in my opinion compared to the whole Undertale cast (aside from Papyrus).
she would be the most reasonable to have in Smash, BUT... i wouldn't mind if any other characters were to be picked, more strength to those who get to have their favorite ones join!
I’d say Sans. Sans has a multitude of special attacks(faster blasters,bones,his blue eye) and his final smash could be a speed up version of his fight
i feel like asgore's final smash could be something like ness and lucas but it just rains down tridents all over the map
Lots of great ideas and points!
Thanks so much!
i imagine papyrus as an assist trophy that uses the cool dude attack, then the skateboard, then the big bone attack
I dont think the piranha plant existing has any sort of bearing on if flowey would get picked
Flowey is a really interesting choice and could have an extremely interesting moveset given his abilities
True true, but I do feel it is worth comparing given they're both plants
@@batdogduke bowser, ridley, k rool, ans yoshi are all reptiles and they're all in, I'm really not understanding how having one plant fighter would imply flowey has a lower chance here, especially since he doesn't have to be contained in a pot
I really like BrawlFan1's idea of having sans & papyrus being a pseudo tag-team were sans fights after papyrus was knocked out (it could also switch with each stock). I also really like the idea asgore being in smash, but would most likely need frisk for the vilain/protag duo like mario/bowser and link/ganon.
I think flowey and undyne would be the most fitting, given how combative undyne is, and how demented and evil flowey is, and how many directions his moveset could go in.
Though what would be the best is probably for papyrus to be a character since it would be a sans/papyrus duo, and it would be very accurate to their dynamic and sans’s personality for him to be fine with them using his likeness, but not wanting to fight.
Assist Trophies:
Alphys: could stand awkwardly then press a button, sending blue and orange lasers from either side
Undyne: will switch between shooting 1-3 spears at every enemy and spawning spears from the floor
Flowey: will stay on the floor where he spawned shooting friendliness pellets, but if anybody gets too close he will grab them with vines (like T. Paci) repeatly dealing damage until they escape button mashing (will be doing his evil laugh during this)
Alt: omega flowey (absolute chaos)
Asgore: will spawn 2 fire spiral thingies in the top corners that will do small damage with every fireball hit
Items:
Bone: scales with HP, the lower the percent the smaller/weaker the bone (move speed scales with stage size)
Spear: if tilt charged fully will do a green slash, stunning
If thrown will make a bunch of spears come out of the surrounding floor
If it hits someone when thrown will make a bunch of smaller spears rain down on them
Worn dagger: charged tilt spawns a slash right where nearest enemy is, can be avoided. If fully charged becomes real knife making slash deal more damage and be undodgeable
Final smashes:
Toriel: would launch a single fireball and if it hits it would knock them into the ceiling of the underground (basically what toriel does to flowey) and if it hits floor would light that spot on fire
Asgore: the start of his battle would play “It was nice meeting you Human, goodbye” and he would throw his trident at the UI of whichever enemy the player selects. Depending on balancing this could either just deal a lot of % and remove all item pieces, or it could take a whole stock away
Papyrus: would just be a super cool regular attack
Flowey: either omega flowey, or he could use his tried and false pellet circle but this time it actually works, doing an insane amount of knockback
Bro your Toriel and Asgore final smash ideas go hard, I really like them!