Anyone notice when the calendar and twitter app open a bit faster on the 3GS, he uses the words "a lot faster" but when Pre's screen reorients a bit faster he uses the words "a little faster". So when a marathon runner finishes 2 seconds faster than another do you say "a lot faster"? When a 100m sprinter finishes 2 seconds faster than another do you say "a little faster"?
If it is the case with most apps, such as safari, you can continue were you left off, then being able to keep multiple apps open on the pre is not a huge deal. I wonder whether this approach on the iPhone requires the developers to save/restore the state of their app, to allow the user to be able to continue?
Got a Pre and it's beautiful. It's snappier now with the new update. I was thinking for going with the bigger sized HTC TP2 but I'll be sticking with the Pre.
I do carry a spare battery for my digital camera and laptop. Smartphones nowadays with the big displays don't have the same battery live as earlier phones, therefore I think it is convenient if you are able to switch batteries. For example, if go on a trip to places with limited acces to electricity or when your batteries are running out at really inconveniet times. There were lots of times when I was really happy that I had a spare battery for my digital camera.
On the iPhone 3G S, say you are doing some research on a web site and you receive an email. If you open the email application, is the browser application closed down or is it just put to sleep, so on returning to the browser, it will be as you left it? If it's the former and you have to start all over again in the browser, that really is a shortcoming.
I switched to an iPhone from a Pre last week, because I don't get Sprint coverage in my new house. I'm glad I did. Pre's notification system and multi-tasking to a degree is a little bit better. Everything else besides is way better on the iPhone 3Gs. That Vista reference really suits the Pre well.
i am a palm user.. and there is little mentioning about thousands of palm softwares that is available since 1990's.. most are freewares.. anyway, if you want to impress your friends.. iPhone is a great phone for it.. Palm softwares helps me to manage my patients since 2004 till now..
@anas272829 yes when on a call you can still use all of your apps, well except for something like the ipod obviously. but this summer there will be an update to the iphone 3gs that will allow you to run any apps at the same time. so to answer your question directly, yes you can use your messaging while in a call
Impressive test methods. I wonder, when you test for online speed, is this a Sprint vs. AT&T test of how fast each phone connects to the internet, the signal strength in your area? The 3Gs v. 3G comparison itself is kind of known.
So if you're browsing the internet in landscape mode on the Pre do you have to rotate the phone every time you want to type? Seems like that would get pretty annoying pretty quickly.
Are we watching the same video? How many times did use the words "very very close" in the tests? At least two. I even remember him saying the words "there seems to be no clear cut winner" eventhough iPhone edged out the Pre in all the tests. Emphasis on "edged".
I think it was because of different OS. The iphone 3gs has a samsumg s5pc100(ARM Cortex-A8) running on 600Mhz while the palm pre has Ti omap3430(ARM Cortex-A8) running on 600Mhz as well. It won't be too much difference about the pure cpu performance. That was the system gives iphone such a advantage. As you can tell these two are running at a relatively same speed when loading a webpage under a webkit-based browser. The 3GS and Palm Pre both have 256MB DDR1 RAM. However, the img sgx535 gpu inside iPhone 3GS is about twice the speed of img sgx530 gpu inside the Palm Pre. The gpu part of the 3GS is 15x faster than the img sgx MBX gpu inside the iphone 3G/2G.
I´m from sweden and i ordered a 3Gs tuesday and the webpage said that it´ll come 2010/01/11!!! I was really suprised... I knew it was out in the webshop but wow!! I´m so excited now, I cant wait... But it´s a long time so...
I'm a Pre owner and I love it!!! The lack of apps is frustrating though... I really like the review and I agree with it, the Pre was just a better phone for me but you really can't go wrong with either one.
Could you tell something about the battery lives next time? I think it's quite important. Espescially for a phone like iPhone where you can't switch batteries.
Was this a study you did? Because that makes no sense. I was playing with all different kinds of phones at the At&t store. And sucked hard with touch screen keyboards. I could pull off the physical keyboard, basically without issue. The touch screen kept pressing the wrong letters when I was typing.
The fact that you had to spec even down to the colour of your iPhone " black iPhone 16GB 3G" is just testament to the fact that most people who buy iPhones are model queens.
I gave the Pre a fair shot for a couple of months. Pre's notification system totally beats iPhone's hands down, but that's it. Pre's multi-tasking while nice tends to slow down the phone and drain the battery faster. The 3Gs is faster and the battery lasts longer. I rather my phone last longer per charge and be very solid doing on thing at a time than shakey doing a bunch.
I wish you would have taken off that message notification on the Pre. It bugged me the entire time. Not to mention it makes the Pre's screen look smaller than it actually is.
Palm Pre! It is a true cell phone with all the capabilities that make it a true smart phone as well. I love my iPhone, but it lacks what the Palm Pre delivers! Get one today!
Im getting an iPhone3Gs and im wondering if im connected to my home wireless internet, and am using the internet or whatever, will that go on my data plan?
In comment to the Screen rotation on the internet, I think for the Palm Pre, having it rotate so quickly isn't a good thing, if you were to hold it down by your side for example, it looks over sensitive so you could get it rotating when you don't want it too If you do the same with the iPhone, I may not, I think the iPhone takes longer to ensure you don't go landscape by mistake... I think I am talking Bulcrap...
@Peredereyev the 3GS doesn't overheat... too much engadget for you lol.... it was already changed.... it was found out to be a third party case issue where the case was bleeding color onto white 3GS's .
Gonna admit I love Iphone like I can't go a day without an iphone and plus Iphone is what made the pre, G1, and storm all come out if it wasn't for iphone opening the gates there would be no other Iphone competitors in any other carrier and Jon nice video really appreciate the hard working vids keep it up.
I've been looking at the Pre and 3GS and because I am currently a at&t customer I will be upgrading to the 3gs in January. Maby there will be a even better version of the iphone available by then who knows. I looked at the Pre and while I do think it's a cool phone I just can't see a reason to switch service to Sprint to get the Pre. At&t has better coverage than Sprint so that's my take on this whole Pre/3gs thing.
Palm Pre doesn't have any third party applications that's great in the iPhone. If, when Palm will ship its SDK late this summer, more applications like games or utilities will be available, running them in the same time in multi-task will slowing down the device a lot. Running a Mail application, Web browser and a Calendar in the same time is very easy, but, what will be running two games, one navigation application as TomTom and the rest in the same time?? Multi-task will show then its limits.
At 6:36 ...they've got the same exact processor and even the same amount of RAM. Only difference is that WebOS is a 1.0 release and not as refined as iPhone OS 3.0 just yet. The 3GS's GPU may also be the reason for the bump.
LOL I liked the shock in his voice when the Palm Pre's rotation was faster than the 3GS... sounds a lot like the buyer's remorse my cousin had when he held his 3GS next to my Pre! LOL It also comes down to carrier, people... AT&T is woefully inadequate to support the 3GS's capabilities... can't even support MMS yet!!! Sprint is also TONS cheaper per month with their Everything Data plans. (P.S. All Sprint plans for the Pre include GPS navigation! AT&T doesn't.)
Ok vid, I just wish you would have explored functionality of some of the core functions in more detail. Speed difference if significant is going to impact my choice, but clearly here there were no clear winners. I looked at your vid cause I was keen to see you compare functionality like contacts lists, email, calendar. Will the calendar synch with outlook express? would be great to see a second installment of your review address some of these points.
To be honest, when you did the screen rotation tests, I really don't care how fast they turn... As long as it turns in a quick fast amount of time, I really dont have any complaints.
That's a given because of the networks the use. Evdo Rev. 0 is currently the fastest 3G technology applied widely. It is used by Sprint and Verizon. The iPhone is still an awesome phone. It's got a great style factor and the huge app store is what makes it. But I don't like ATT spotty 3G coverage. It's pretty small. Sprint and Verizon's 3G coverage is about the same and much wider, any decently-sized city or highway will be covered.
On my Pre I just leave my 5 most common apps running in cards so I don't have to load them fresh every time I need them. That's how I do it on my home computer too; I don't open and close firefox, outlook, songbird, every time I need them, I just leave them running. The Pre lets me work and interact with my phone the same as I do with my computer, and that's a huge win. It's clear that a lot of people are just not used to working with a phone capable of true multitasking.
hey why don't you compare a motorola brick phone with the palm pre while ur at it? It's not fair that we're comparing newer motorola-made cellphones to first gen whatevertheheckcompany's cell phone right?
i dont know, to me it appeared that the palm pre was slightly faster then the iphone yet he keeps saying they loaded the same time, is it just me or was this review slightly biased
the 3gs is THREE YEARS of development, and the palm pre competes pretty well even in this bias test based on barely a MONTH of development. also, there is a homebrew virtual keyboard out for a while now, and video recording will come out in webOS 1.4.
yea I thought that was why the iPhone did that sometimes, I mean on the game Venger, you can switch screen rotation very quickly, but its not like that on safari for iphone
Many people are saying that the iPhone is faster when they are pretty much the same, if the Pre takes a little longer is cuz it has to create a "card" first, this way it can multitask in case you decide to open another "card" for a different website.And for Apple to come out with a slightly faster iPhone and able to record video and putting a hefty price tag...to whoever owns the iPhone 3G just stick with it,if your w/ sprint get the Pre cuz it packs a punch for such small device w/ GPS & gmaps.
The fact is that Palm has had many years to come up with something great. It wasn't until Apple brought us the iPhone that they were able to deliver something worth buying. Not to mention the patent laws they ran into when trying to copy the iPhones screen. It has nothing to do with how many generations of phone have been released, it's the fact that apple has made a lasting impression, and has set a new benchmark that still no one has topped.
With the Palm Pre, you can't do landscape typing. Not a huge deal, especially since the screen rotates so quickly. I personally love the 3G's on screen keyboard. And now with 3.0, landscape keys make it much more friendly, especially with the auto correct. - Good Review/Comparison.
hey jon if you're going to compare screen rotation on safari vs. the pre, you should at least scroll down on safari to get rid of the address bar. the iPhone rotation animation has more graphics with the address bar and bottom bar, whereas the pre doesn't, so getting rid of the address bar in safari and rotating it makes it a little quicker.
if your looking for a cheaper bill every month, go with the palm pre...instead of paying $90+ dollars for the iphones monthly bill. Also, i do have a pre and they have made some great changes to it, like video recording, and faster app loading
Lets just remember that this video was posted 6 months ago! The Pre was only out "2 weeks" according to the author and in its first OS revision. Multiple OS updates later, we've got a better, faster Pre. Just my 2 cents.
The camera on the Pre has a flash and is much faster in taking pictures and storing photos. When you hold down the space bar on the keyboard, you can literally take a picture per second! The screen resolutions on both phones are exactly the same (480x360), but Pre's a lil smaller making the picture a little bit crisper. Both processors are 600 mhz, and they both have 256MB RAM. So when you say "it's not even close" you are clearly wrong! But when you add multitasking, it really isn't close!
Great test, the more I see the Pre the more I'm liking it haha. It's hard to beat the 3G S though.
@Mitchell He was probably like 12 when he posted that comment
Great job previewing each phone without bias. I learned a lot about both phone and what sets them apart.
lol me too!! remember the pilot? lol i love palm...the treo 600 changed the game!
when 240p was "strong" quality
its funny even the pre is a min behind lol
Yes, all of those features will work. What network/carrier are you planning to use the iPhone on?
Anyone notice when the calendar and twitter app open a bit faster on the 3GS, he uses the words "a lot faster" but when Pre's screen reorients a bit faster he uses the words "a little faster". So when a marathon runner finishes 2 seconds faster than another do you say "a lot faster"? When a 100m sprinter finishes 2 seconds faster than another do you say "a little faster"?
If it is the case with most apps, such as safari, you can continue were you left off, then being able to keep multiple apps open on the pre is not a huge deal. I wonder whether this approach on the iPhone requires the developers to save/restore the state of their app, to allow the user to be able to continue?
How does the new Fingerprint-resistant oleophobic coating compare with the old one? Is it possible to feel a difference?
Got a Pre and it's beautiful. It's snappier now with the new update. I was thinking for going with the bigger sized HTC TP2 but I'll be sticking with the Pre.
I do carry a spare battery for my digital camera and laptop.
Smartphones nowadays with the big displays don't have the same battery live as earlier phones, therefore I think it is convenient if you are able to switch batteries. For example, if go on a trip to places with limited acces to electricity or when your batteries are running out at really inconveniet times. There were lots of times when I was really happy that I had a spare battery for my digital camera.
On the iPhone 3G S, say you are doing some research on a web site and you receive an email. If you open the email application, is the browser application closed down or is it just put to sleep, so on returning to the browser, it will be as you left it? If it's the former and you have to start all over again in the browser, that really is a shortcoming.
when do you thinks the iphone 3G S will come out in other countries
I switched to an iPhone from a Pre last week, because I don't get Sprint coverage in my new house. I'm glad I did. Pre's notification system and multi-tasking to a degree is a little bit better. Everything else besides is way better on the iPhone 3Gs. That Vista reference really suits the Pre well.
Thanks for the help.
But if i buy one from ebay with no contract will i be able to use all the media functions, camera etc?
How many apps does the Pre have? How's the fully capable iPod? How about the voice recognition? Or the application/song search?
i wanna know witch is the fastest htc imagio or the iphone 3gs? you should make a video of it it'll be so sweet to see them two face off.
i am a palm user.. and there is little mentioning about thousands of palm softwares that is available since 1990's.. most are freewares..
anyway, if you want to impress your friends.. iPhone is a great phone for it..
Palm softwares helps me to manage my patients since 2004 till now..
when will the Iphone 3G S be available in other parts of the world? like Romania? or Europe?
@anas272829 yes when on a call you can still use all of your apps, well except for something like the ipod obviously. but this summer there will be an update to the iphone 3gs that will allow you to run any apps at the same time. so to answer your question directly, yes you can use your messaging while in a call
Impressive test methods. I wonder, when you test for online speed, is this a Sprint vs. AT&T test of how fast each phone connects to the internet, the signal strength in your area?
The 3Gs v. 3G comparison itself is kind of known.
So if you're browsing the internet in landscape mode on the Pre do you have to rotate the phone every time you want to type? Seems like that would get pretty annoying pretty quickly.
The pre dosent have auto correct yet. this was brought up and palm have said they will include it in the new firmware update in november.
Are we watching the same video? How many times did use the words "very very close" in the tests? At least two. I even remember him saying the words "there seems to be no clear cut winner" eventhough iPhone edged out the Pre in all the tests. Emphasis on "edged".
The text he got-
Morrison Bradley
can you look at what version of bt
you have on your palm? Under device
info...more...sw
Do you get WiFi everywhere you go? Some of us leave our homes from time to time.
What was that Icon in the iPhone calendar screen in the lower right?
do you ever stop to think that maybe some people aren't on att? What if there on movistar? or Claro?
No video for the Pre? thats messed up
I think it was because of different OS. The iphone 3gs has a samsumg s5pc100(ARM Cortex-A8) running on 600Mhz while the palm pre has Ti omap3430(ARM Cortex-A8) running on 600Mhz as well. It won't be too much difference about the pure cpu performance. That was the system gives iphone such a advantage. As you can tell these two are running at a relatively same speed when loading a webpage under a webkit-based browser. The 3GS and Palm Pre both have 256MB DDR1 RAM. However, the img sgx535 gpu inside iPhone 3GS is about twice the speed of img sgx530 gpu inside the Palm Pre. The gpu part of the 3GS is 15x faster than the img sgx MBX gpu inside the iphone 3G/2G.
How do you get the notifications to show up on the calender? I have the 3G S as well.
so the speaker in the 3GS is better than in the 3G? how much better would you say?
I´m from sweden and i ordered a 3Gs tuesday and the webpage said that it´ll come 2010/01/11!!! I was really suprised... I knew it was out in the webshop but wow!! I´m so excited now, I cant wait... But it´s a long time so...
if you want to dial numbers on the pre. do you have to use the slike out or do you have it on screne? i am getting a palm pre
Does the Palm Pre work on GSM networks yet?
@ 07blkCobalt
multitasking is possible if you do a jailbreak on your iphone
I'm a Pre owner and I love it!!! The lack of apps is frustrating though... I really like the review and I agree with it, the Pre was just a better phone for me but you really can't go wrong with either one.
Could you tell something about the battery lives next time? I think it's quite important. Espescially for a phone like iPhone where you can't switch batteries.
Where do you get apps for the palm pre
do they have a stote like i-tunes,if so how many
Oh i forgot something .. The awsome voice control that the iPhone has, its really amazing that it works without lag or something.
wait why do people say theres no to do list on the iphone 3G S's calender, you just add what you want to do on some day...
Was this a study you did? Because that makes no sense.
I was playing with all different kinds of phones at the At&t store. And sucked hard with touch screen keyboards. I could pull off the physical keyboard, basically without issue.
The touch screen kept pressing the wrong letters when I was typing.
do you need to pay alot on the internet on the pre? cuz the iphone is like $9.99 a month
what do you do for a living john, if you don't mind me askind
Which phone is or will be your primary device
The fact that you had to spec even down to the colour of your iPhone " black iPhone 16GB 3G" is just testament to the fact that most people who buy iPhones are model queens.
I gave the Pre a fair shot for a couple of months. Pre's notification system totally beats iPhone's hands down, but that's it.
Pre's multi-tasking while nice tends to slow down the phone and drain the battery faster. The 3Gs is faster and the battery lasts longer. I rather my phone last longer per charge and be very solid doing on thing at a time than shakey doing a bunch.
i think he is referring to the added cost of the at&t plan on the 2 year contract.
Same thing I was thinking. But the multi-tasking handling on the Pre looks cool. Can't wait to see what Apple will come up with :D
I wish you would have taken off that message notification on the Pre. It bugged me the entire time. Not to mention it makes the Pre's screen look smaller than it actually is.
how did you make the video longer than 10:00 minutes
Palm Pre! It is a true cell phone with all the capabilities that make it a true smart phone as well. I love my iPhone, but it lacks what the Palm Pre delivers! Get one today!
Have you ever seen a pre? He has done 2 unbiased reviews and sees it the way I do. Both great phones. Good for the consumer.
Im getting an iPhone3Gs and im wondering if im connected to my home wireless internet, and am using the internet or whatever, will that go on my data plan?
GSM pre? With what service? GSM is for sim cards that can be removed. Sprint doesn't have sim cards that are removable.
haha it was mad funny when fred was talking and jon was like okaaay thats enough of that. XD
In comment to the Screen rotation on the internet, I think for the Palm Pre, having it rotate so quickly isn't a good thing, if you were to hold it down by your side for example, it looks over sensitive so you could get it rotating when you don't want it too
If you do the same with the iPhone, I may not, I think the iPhone takes longer to ensure you don't go landscape by mistake...
I think I am talking Bulcrap...
@Peredereyev the 3GS doesn't overheat... too much engadget for you lol.... it was already changed.... it was found out to be a third party case issue where the case was bleeding color onto white 3GS's .
what phone do you use regularly?
can you do a review on the mlb baseball app, to show how u can watch live games on the 3gs. thks
Gonna admit I love Iphone like I can't go a day without an iphone and plus Iphone is what made the pre, G1, and storm all come out if it wasn't for iphone opening the gates there would be no other Iphone competitors in any other carrier and Jon nice video really appreciate the hard working vids keep it up.
I've been looking at the Pre and 3GS and because I am currently a at&t customer I will be upgrading to the 3gs in January. Maby there will be a even better version of the iphone available by then who knows. I looked at the Pre and while I do think it's a cool phone I just can't see a reason to switch service to Sprint to get the Pre. At&t has better coverage than Sprint so that's my take on this whole Pre/3gs thing.
If a speed test is going to be performed on these 2 phones doesn't it make more sense to do it on WiFi and not 3G?
Palm Pre doesn't have any third party applications that's great in the iPhone. If, when Palm will ship its SDK late this summer, more applications like games or utilities will be available, running them in the same time in multi-task will slowing down the device a lot. Running a Mail application, Web browser and a Calendar in the same time is very easy, but, what will be running two games, one navigation application as TomTom and the rest in the same time?? Multi-task will show then its limits.
At 6:36
...they've got the same exact processor and even the same amount of RAM. Only difference is that WebOS is a 1.0 release and not as refined as iPhone OS 3.0 just yet. The 3GS's GPU may also be the reason for the bump.
he uses Exchange for this. the notifications are invitations to meetings etc.
LOL I liked the shock in his voice when the Palm Pre's rotation was faster than the 3GS... sounds a lot like the buyer's remorse my cousin had when he held his 3GS next to my Pre! LOL
It also comes down to carrier, people... AT&T is woefully inadequate to support the 3GS's capabilities... can't even support MMS yet!!! Sprint is also TONS cheaper per month with their Everything Data plans. (P.S. All Sprint plans for the Pre include GPS navigation! AT&T doesn't.)
Ok vid, I just wish you would have explored functionality of some of the core functions in more detail. Speed difference if significant is going to impact my choice, but clearly here there were no clear winners. I looked at your vid cause I was keen to see you compare functionality like contacts lists, email, calendar. Will the calendar synch with outlook express? would be great to see a second installment of your review address some of these points.
I have my 3gs Jailbroken and I can multitask, so where is the benefit in getting the Pre now?
To be honest, when you did the screen rotation tests, I really don't care how fast they turn... As long as it turns in a quick fast amount of time, I really dont have any complaints.
so is it possible to get the pre for atnt?? please respond
which phone is going to be your "go-to" phone for everyday use??
That's a given because of the networks the use. Evdo Rev. 0 is currently the fastest 3G technology applied widely. It is used by Sprint and Verizon.
The iPhone is still an awesome phone. It's got a great style factor and the huge app store is what makes it.
But I don't like ATT spotty 3G coverage. It's pretty small. Sprint and Verizon's 3G coverage is about the same and much wider, any decently-sized city or highway will be covered.
so i'm on like verizon mid contract. should i leave and get the iphone or wait for the palm pre
Does Pre work Sprints new 4G network?
also the pre can do video record now with the new update and it has 3d sims 3 etc...
On my Pre I just leave my 5 most common apps running in cards so I don't have to load them fresh every time I need them. That's how I do it on my home computer too; I don't open and close firefox, outlook, songbird, every time I need them, I just leave them running.
The Pre lets me work and interact with my phone the same as I do with my computer, and that's a huge win. It's clear that a lot of people are just not used to working with a phone capable of true multitasking.
I like how theres a Palm Pre ad on the 3GS
the page you were looking at will pop back up
wat do u xpect jon if the new 1 want all about speed apple would call it iphone 3 gen/iphone pro
Also: Palm has publicly stated they will provide VIDEO RECORDING for the Palm Pre soon.
I NEED HELP!
CAN I USE A PRE WITH NO SIM CARD???
I want one but i dont need the phone function as i already have an iPhone 3GS.
LOL!!! "Wow that was-" when Fred played...
are these your phones?
should i get an iphone 3g or wait for iphone 3gs jailbreak or wait until september for new ipod touch cause i have verizn
whats better white or black im getting the iphone 3gs on o2 £450 what colour should i get :/ ?
hey why don't you compare a motorola brick phone with the palm pre while ur at it? It's not fair that we're comparing newer motorola-made cellphones to first gen whatevertheheckcompany's cell phone right?
i am not sure if I need to get iphone 3g or wait until iphone comes to verizon...
i dont know, to me it appeared that the palm pre was slightly faster then the iphone yet he keeps saying they loaded the same time, is it just me or was this review slightly biased
the 3gs is THREE YEARS of development, and the palm pre competes pretty well even in this bias test based on barely a MONTH of development. also, there is a homebrew virtual keyboard out for a while now, and video recording will come out in webOS 1.4.
yea I thought that was why the iPhone did that sometimes, I mean on the game Venger, you can switch screen rotation very quickly, but its not like that on safari for iphone
i have a choice between hero and pre and i cant pick one help!
Many people are saying that the iPhone is faster when they are pretty much the same, if the Pre takes a little longer is cuz it has to create a "card" first, this way it can multitask in case you decide to open another "card" for a different website.And for Apple to come out with a slightly faster iPhone and able to record video and putting a hefty price tag...to whoever owns the iPhone 3G just stick with it,if your w/ sprint get the Pre cuz it packs a punch for such small device w/ GPS & gmaps.
The fact is that Palm has had many years to come up with something great. It wasn't until Apple brought us the iPhone that they were able to deliver something worth buying. Not to mention the patent laws they ran into when trying to copy the iPhones screen.
It has nothing to do with how many generations of phone have been released, it's the fact that apple has made a lasting impression, and has set a new benchmark that still no one has topped.
With the Palm Pre, you can't do landscape typing. Not a huge deal, especially since the screen rotates so quickly.
I personally love the 3G's on screen keyboard. And now with 3.0, landscape keys make it much more friendly, especially with the auto correct. - Good Review/Comparison.
hey jon if you're going to compare screen rotation on safari vs. the pre, you should at least scroll down on safari to get rid of the address bar. the iPhone rotation animation has more graphics with the address bar and bottom bar, whereas the pre doesn't, so getting rid of the address bar in safari and rotating it makes it a little quicker.
if your looking for a cheaper bill every month, go with the palm pre...instead of paying $90+ dollars for the iphones monthly bill. Also, i do have a pre and they have made some great changes to it, like video recording, and faster app loading
Lets just remember that this video was posted 6 months ago! The Pre was only out "2 weeks" according to the author and in its first OS revision. Multiple OS updates later, we've got a better, faster Pre. Just my 2 cents.
Excellent review, the winner for my point of view base in your video is PRE
Thanks
The camera on the Pre has a flash and is much faster in taking pictures and storing photos. When you hold down the space bar on the keyboard, you can literally take a picture per second! The screen resolutions on both phones are exactly the same (480x360), but Pre's a lil smaller making the picture a little bit crisper. Both processors are 600 mhz, and they both have 256MB RAM. So when you say "it's not even close" you are clearly wrong! But when you add multitasking, it really isn't close!