Encoding Cut Depth with Inkscape for your Shaper Origin with Jenner
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- Опубликовано: 23 дек 2022
- This is a video showing you how to encode cut depth on your SVGs using the software Inkscape. Cut depth is a new feature introduced for Shaper Origin with the Jenner update. While the official way from Shaper Origin is to use Shaper Studio to do it, it is actually also possible to do it in a very convenient way with Inkscape (a free SVG editor).
Thank you very much to Hynek, who has helped me to figure out how to do this.
Note: Additional resources for depth encoding:
- Shaper published an article about this topic (this wasn't available when I published this video): support.shapertools.com/hc/en...
- Web app to set cut deptht cutdepth.storgaarddesign.com .
- Similar “non-UI” tool from "OzarkNerd"l: community.shapertools.com/t/s...
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I don't use Inkscape but this is awesome information. Thanks to Hynek and yourself for sharing. Steve
Most welcome, glad if this is helpful 👊🏼 I usually also don’t use inkscape regularly, but might for this purpose
That’s great, appreciate the information that you put out.
Most welcome, Charles , pumped if this is helpful 👊🏼
Yeah! 😊👍
This is absolutely awesome! Thank you Javier, thank you Hynek!
Most welcome my friend 👊🏼
Thank Hynek for all of us!
I will relay your gratitude to him :D
Thank you very much for sharing this information!
Most welcome - glad if it was helpful
Fantastic! Thank you for another helpful and valuable Shaper video! Can't wait to try this out.
Most welcome, have fun 👊🏼
Good morning sir!,
You are one of the best to help the Shaper community, keep it coming!
Most welcome, James, thanks for your kind words, it’s due to feedback like this that I continue creating this content, glad if this is helpful 👊🏼
Thanks Javier, this is very useful information. There is a lot of technical discussion on the Shaper Community boards but this piece of code looks simple enough to add directly in the SVG file. Wishing you a peaceful and prosperous 2023.
Glad to hear this is helpful, Paul, and happy holidays to you too!
Another great video my friend! Merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you and your family. Looking forward to more builds in 2023! 😊
Happy holidays to you and your family my friend 🎉
Thanks for sharing this!
Most welcome, Deb 👊🏼
Thank’s for sharing this good practice
Most welcome 👊🏼
Thank you and Hynek! As an Inkscape user I salute you!
I salute you back, Michelle, most welcome 👊🏼
Awesome
Thank you
Most welcome 👊🏼
Great video as usual. You keep giving g me more reasons to ditch Studio. Thank you.
Thank you so much for your kind words; pumped this was useful to you
Thanks. Someone on the Shaper FaceBook group had posted the XML file format hack, but didn’t close the loop on using it in Inkscape. I would never have noticed the Edit/XML Editor option w/out this tip. Really appreciate all your great content. Sounds like I need to do some tutorials on Inkscape to better exploit its powers!
Most welcome, Paul, glad if this is helpful 👊🏼 Feel free to post the video in the group, if it’s helpful
Great video with good useful information! Keep it up Javier..
Thanks Chris, pumped to hear this is useful to you 👊🏼
Danke man! Das ist echt cool. Das eliminiert eine ganze Menge an möglichen Fehlern.
Sehr gerne geschehen, Lilly 👊🏼
Thanks a lot for these explanations. Now i want to try Inkskape.
Joyeux Noël.
Most welcome, Dominique, glad if this is helpful 👊🏼 Joyeux Noël!!
Thanks !! Very informative and helpful as I am an Inkscape user also.
Most welcome, John, glad if this is helpful 👊🏼
Nicely done. My intuition was this was an XML value, but you did the homework, and I didn't. Thanks. And thank you Hynek.
Most welcome, Bob, pumped if this is helpful 👊🏼
Thanks, Hynek! I don’t use Inkscape, but happy to see this sort of collaboration among users.
You can easily open an SVG file in any text editor. Just right-click and open with. Add the code as he showed using the same tag, just adjusting the right side of the equals to match your needs. Can do this for each object, such as the “rect” one he showed in his example.
I usually don’t use Inkscape regularly either, but might use it for this purpose. Given it’s free, it’s a no brainer to me. You can also do it manually in a text editor, but it’s much more cumbersome
You are awesome
Thanks Patrick, glad if this is helpful 👊🏼
Super Thank you
Most welcome, Guy 👊🏼
Hoi Javier. Funktioniert mit Inkscape-SVG und au mit em normale Format. Vile Dank und merci au für alli andere super Tips!
Gärn gscheh, Romaen, freut mi wenn das nützlig isch 👊🏼
Thanks for this.
It is inexcusable that Shaper doesn't document this feature but that you and your friend had to reverse engineer it.
Most welcome, Mark. Yeah, I agree that documentation would have been important, but I guess this would reduce the arguments to pay for Shaper Studio, hence they conveniently forgot :D
@@Woodensoul
I don't like using graphical user interfaces for describing geometry. I'm a computer programmer and am able to concisely and exactly express my designs in code.
The two selling points of the Shaper Origin for me we're
* It's small storage footprint
* I could directly control it in a language I knew.
If they're trying to take the latter away then I feel cheated.
BTW: did you notice if there was an XML namespace definition for the "shaper" namespace?
@@marknahabedian1803 I applaud you for being able to control your design in code; a really nice skill to have. I don't think they are trying to take away that. After all, the SO continues to work with the standard SVG format. It's just that they are not teaching you how to do it, and thats kind of a bummer.
Can you specify what you mean by "shaper namespace"?
@@Woodensoul The shaper namespace has to be defined in the xml file before you add an attribute starting with "shaper:" to the file. Shaper actually has an article about this, that fixes the preview error. Search for "Manual SVG Cut Depth Encoding".
@@rogmag74 Thank you, Roger, I will look for it and link it from the video description.
Great video! Thanks! Has someone already figured out how to add the cut depth in illustrator?
Thanks 🙏🏼 I don’t know, nobody commented about Illustrator
Excellent! Then if you name the objects you’ll be able to identify different objects from the XML-file and define cut depths there. Just copy-paste ”shaper:cutDepth=mm” before /> and then add appropriate depths before that mm. I tried both and maybe editing them directly in to the XML-file is a tad faster. Naming of the objects is pretty fast. Anyway, this was a very useful video. Thank you.
Hi Pekka. Yes, that's exactly right, you can also edit the code directly. I have found this to be more time consuming if you have multiple/many objects/lines in your file, because figuring out which code snippet represents what object is time consuming. With Inkscape, you can just select the line you want and edit the depth. But both methods work indeed...
I hadn’t looked into this yet as I just received my Origin. But this is exactly what I suspected. SVGs are XML-based, similar to HTML so you can make your own custom tags. Thanks for sharing the exact tag so I don’t have to do the legwork. I have Fusion360 for personal use (free), but much easier to mock-up in Figma and to share across devices. Then just open the SVG in any text editor or code editor. I’ll have to do a little research to identify if it’s numbers with “in” for inches since I use imperial.
Yes, editing with a text editor works fine, it’s just pretty cumbersome to figure out what pieces of code are what lines, therefore the inkscape solution is more easiy to use. Regarding inches, try to find a file on the shaper hub encoded in imperial and open it in a text editor and you should be all set 👊🏼
It is "in" for inches
Sweet, thanks
Boooom! Schade, dass ich hier kein Mic Drop GIF posten kann :) sehr cool!
Hahaha, danke Rob 😆👊🏼
Great video as usual. How do you get the Shaper colors for type of cut on Inkscape? Thanks
Hi John. Thanks for the feedback, I am pumped to hear this is helpful to you. You can find more information about the colors needed on the article below. I typically just open the svg file and copy/paste the color palette to the file I need, then use the eyedropper to copy the color. support.shapertools.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002735794-Using-the-Template
Great video! Can you share an iPad app that has the ability to add depth encoding
Thanks 👊🏼 I am so sorry I can’t help you. I have never created an SVG with an iPad…
Thank you! Also wondering is there a way to make it cut a path or shape that has varying depth? Deeper at one end, shallower at the other ? Or even program or draw some ‘wavy’ bottom? Thanks!
Thanks for your question. This might be one of the most frequent wishes, 3D cutting, but I fear that for now this isn't possible.
Hello !
Thank you for this nice trick !
Looking a shaper hub file (Flush Ring Pull 1.5in), I found the "shaper:cutDepth" parameter as you show, but also a "shaper:pathType" parameter, with "hogging" as value. Did somebody who uses AutoPass have an idea of utility of this ?
Most welcome, Jean-Baptiste! Hogging? I don’t even know what that means. And searching for it reveals some dodgy practices that have nothing to do with woodworking. I hope someone else can comment?
It seems "hogging" is when you remove a lot of material, like roughing (cleaning a big pocket for example). I find other values for shaper:pathType parameter, as "exterior" or "interior". I think it may be an old version of color system in svg, to know what type of cut Shaper must do. But it clearly seems to be a potential promising tweek for future developments to Shaper.
Very interesting, maybe it has indeed something to do with auto-pass, because someone reported that auto-pass has a certain behavior in that direction.
thank you, from where did you pull in the colors for different cuts such as inside or outside cuts?
Hi John. That’s from this template: support.shapertools.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002735794-Using-the-Template
Awesome. For some reason it breaks the preview, at least in macOS Ventura. Some kind of XML parsing error. Does this happen also with the ones created with Fusion 360 and Shaper Studio?
That’s probably true. Mac probably run into an unknown tag and then just stops trying to resolve the code and spits back an error. You should be able to open and view in a browser. Haven’t tested but this is a common way to view SVG since it was designed for web-rendering of vector images.
Yeah, the preview on Mac and on the Shaper Origin breaks, I don’t know how to resolve this issue atm
Has anyone tried using this with AutoPass yet?
I don't know. I don't have Auto-Pass, hence I didn't test it, but I am pretty sure this should work.