Hey Javier, right now not really. I’ve started to use the Shaper plater right now, and only use the tape for larger inlays or marking my larger pieces with my logo. 😁
Thanks for the video. Saw this online but did not buy it. Also did not realize Shaper Tape gets old. Reusable tape in specific situations has functionality. I'm not sure how happy I'd be trying to store multiple longer pieces of this.
Most welcome. This is how I store it: ruclips.net/video/hiGQ-Z0ARko/видео.html, in plastic portfolios, that works really well. Or you can stick it to a laminated sheet. I am doing this already for paper tape, so will continue doing it with this one.
Thank you for another good video. I had not seen this tape, I'll have to try it. My experience has been with larger pieces and multiple passes where I am moving the SO over the tape on each pass. The sawdust and just friction from the tool base will scratch and tear the paper tape and make it unreadable to the machine. I have had to add more tape and rescan on occasion to finish a project. I'm hoping this tape will be better in these situations.
So some tips, use a piece of tape or vinyl scrap and attach adhesive side on backer and it pulls right apart. Another pro tip peel just maybe half an inch of backing fold it back over then attach just the end and use the roll in your other hand and spool it out which creates a straight line, then cut if you don’t want to fumble with it, and hold the end and grab the tag end of the backer and pull back as you activate adhesive and press down.
Thank you for the overview of the vinyl tape. How does the thickness compare to the paper tape? (sorry if you mentioned and I missed it). This will be great for templates and fixtures that get used a lot, paper doesn't hold up well with repeated use.
The main advantage is the reuse? I was expecting the main advantage to be that the vinyl tape doesn't delaminate. Seems like the waste of tape that is unusable due to delamination would overcome the cost differential. Especially so when buying multiple rolls that all come from the same batch. The "answer" for delamination includes lots of user vigilance about the temperature of the tape and pulling it off the roll straight vs at an angle, etc. Getting free of all the required user vigilance alone is arguably worth the cost differential. For me, anyway. YMMV. Thanks for alerting us to the new product and the thorough review!
Delamination!! That was the word I didn't know. I had multiple (many!) cases of delamination with the paper ShaperTape, and that was what I was referencing to at the end, with the expiry date. That problem always cost me nerves, time and money. That won't be the case with this tape, so you are right, that is an additional advantage. I just think that the reuse will save more money than the delamination, but in sum its even better...
It is, you can find the test here: Follow-up Wonder Tape review: Durability, delamination, application & shipping #shaperorigin ruclips.net/video/ooK1bxLXm3I/видео.html
Thanks for the review. I am somewhat skeptical about the reuse property. How am I supposed to store it between projects? I doubt it can be rolled up. If it was a lot cheaper than the Shaper tape it would be worth it, but not at a premium over the Shaper tape.
This is how I store it: ruclips.net/video/hiGQ-Z0ARko/видео.html, in plastic portfolios, that works really well. Or you can stick it to a laminated sheet. I am doing this already for paper tape, so will continue doing it with this one.
I have used packaging tape in the past and it works well (ruclips.net/video/hiGQ-Z0ARko/видео.html), but how would you find this useful in this context?
If the packing tape would come off of the vinyl surface, leave the adhesive backing on the vinyl tape and just place the tape with packaging tape over it multiple times
Btw it has induced tension as you stretch it and it tries to go back in original shape. Another pro tip, get a torch and just quickly run it over it and both will go back to original shape
This was good info. I don't have a Shaper yet. Squirreling away money so the wife doesn't know the actual cost because, as you know, then you need to buy the wife something of equal or greater value.
I am working with them on a solution that will likely involve me buying a larger quantity to lower the shipping costs for people in Europe. Will keep you posted
cool product, but there is too much meat on the bone for the seller and not enough for the buyer. If it were $20 I would consider it, but at $30? I'm not sure its really worth it. The reusability factor is cool but honestly, I cut through much of my tape so Im not sure how much of it could actually be reused.
Yeah, the vinyl costs are rather high, so it's a low margin product. But as mentioned in the video, if you destroy most of your tape, then that product is not for you...
I think this is a really neat idea, my concern would be that Shaper is owned by Tooltechnic Systems who also own Festool and SawStop. They have repeatedly shown that they will maintain their market dominance by enforcing through legal means their patents that they hold. It would seem that WonderTape is treading in that grey area so I hope they have consulted a lawyer before getting too deep into production and distribution.
Excellent analysis, Javier. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting and figuring out what matters with this type and why.
Thanks and most welcome 👊🏼
Thank You. As usual, you have given us a well done and reliable review.
Most welcome, pumped if this was helpful :D
Another great video my friend! 😁
Thanks Henry :D Do you have any need for reusable tape?
Hey Javier, right now not really. I’ve started to use the Shaper plater right now, and only use the tape for larger inlays or marking my larger pieces with my logo. 😁
Thanks for the video. Saw this online but did not buy it. Also did not realize Shaper Tape gets old. Reusable tape in specific situations has functionality. I'm not sure how happy I'd be trying to store multiple longer pieces of this.
Most welcome. This is how I store it: ruclips.net/video/hiGQ-Z0ARko/видео.html, in plastic portfolios, that works really well. Or you can stick it to a laminated sheet. I am doing this already for paper tape, so will continue doing it with this one.
Thank you for another good video. I had not seen this tape, I'll have to try it. My experience has been with larger pieces and multiple passes where I am moving the SO over the tape on each pass. The sawdust and just friction from the tool base will scratch and tear the paper tape and make it unreadable to the machine. I have had to add more tape and rescan on occasion to finish a project. I'm hoping this tape will be better in these situations.
Most welcome and thanks for your kind words. I totally expect this tape to be way more scratch resistant, but I should have tested that…
So some tips, use a piece of tape or vinyl scrap and attach adhesive side on backer and it pulls right apart. Another pro tip peel just maybe half an inch of backing fold it back over then attach just the end and use the roll in your other hand and spool it out which creates a straight line, then cut if you don’t want to fumble with it, and hold the end and grab the tag end of the backer and pull back as you activate adhesive and press down.
Wow, these are really nice tips, especially for how to prevent the fiddly fumbling, thanks for sharing!
@@Woodensoul need a video on the tips :)
Good idea 😆
Thank you for the overview of the vinyl tape. How does the thickness compare to the paper tape? (sorry if you mentioned and I missed it). This will be great for templates and fixtures that get used a lot, paper doesn't hold up well with repeated use.
Most welcome. You can find the answers here: ruclips.net/video/ooK1bxLXm3I/видео.html
The main advantage is the reuse? I was expecting the main advantage to be that the vinyl tape doesn't delaminate. Seems like the waste of tape that is unusable due to delamination would overcome the cost differential. Especially so when buying multiple rolls that all come from the same batch. The "answer" for delamination includes lots of user vigilance about the temperature of the tape and pulling it off the roll straight vs at an angle, etc. Getting free of all the required user vigilance alone is arguably worth the cost differential. For me, anyway. YMMV. Thanks for alerting us to the new product and the thorough review!
Delamination!! That was the word I didn't know. I had multiple (many!) cases of delamination with the paper ShaperTape, and that was what I was referencing to at the end, with the expiry date. That problem always cost me nerves, time and money. That won't be the case with this tape, so you are right, that is an additional advantage. I just think that the reuse will save more money than the delamination, but in sum its even better...
Is the domino surface more durable with the WT? I’ve noticed that the SO standard tape fades quite quickly with only a few passes of the base over
It is, you can find the test here: Follow-up Wonder Tape review: Durability, delamination, application & shipping #shaperorigin
ruclips.net/video/ooK1bxLXm3I/видео.html
Just ordered. If this doesn't delaminate then the extra $0.03 is totally worth it!
Have fun 🤩
tHANK YOU FOR SHARING THE RESOURCES YOU COME ACROSS WITH THE COMMUNITY! :) oops caps, my bad!
Haha... most welcome, glad if it was helpful :D
Thanks for the review. I am somewhat skeptical about the reuse property. How am I supposed to store it between projects? I doubt it can be rolled up.
If it was a lot cheaper than the Shaper tape it would be worth it, but not at a premium over the Shaper tape.
This is how I store it: ruclips.net/video/hiGQ-Z0ARko/видео.html, in plastic portfolios, that works really well. Or you can stick it to a laminated sheet. I am doing this already for paper tape, so will continue doing it with this one.
Something I’ll be doing is you can get various levels of adhesive. They used cheap vinyl
What will you be doing?
Printing some on various adhesive level vinyls. So a low tack, mid tack and high tack for things that don’t like to be stuck to :)
@@stew1tx Sounds like fun!
FANTÁSTICO!!! VERY NICE VÍDEO…. GRACIAS
Most welcome 👊🏼
Do know how clear packing works over it? If you could peel packing tape off the vinyl you could leave the backing on and reuse it forever
I have used packaging tape in the past and it works well (ruclips.net/video/hiGQ-Z0ARko/видео.html), but how would you find this useful in this context?
If the packing tape would come off of the vinyl surface, leave the adhesive backing on the vinyl tape and just place the tape with packaging tape over it multiple times
Btw it has induced tension as you stretch it and it tries to go back in original shape. Another pro tip, get a torch and just quickly run it over it and both will go back to original shape
I didn't experience that tension, weird, it worked like a charm...
This was good info. I don't have a Shaper yet. Squirreling away money so the wife doesn't know the actual cost because, as you know, then you need to buy the wife something of equal or greater value.
You seem to be a very very wise man my friend! I 100% agree with you and wish you successful quirreling :D
A nice vacuum perhaps.
Just went to order a roll to ship to the UK $144.60 😮😮😮 That was following your link. Great idea, but not worth that much
I am working with them on a solution that will likely involve me buying a larger quantity to lower the shipping costs for people in Europe. Will keep you posted
@@Woodensoul That’s gr8 news, thanks for the update
Here you can pre-order the tape with cheaper shipping: creatoriq.cc/4aq1efT
Warum ist die Überschrift auf Deutsch? Und der Sprecher ist nur englisch.?
Aktiviere die Untertitel, die sind auf Deutsch (man kann leider nicht mehrere Audiotracks verwenden)
Damn it someone beat me to it
Haha...
huh? people cut thru the tape... so how u using plastic ?!?
Did you watch the video?
cool product, but there is too much meat on the bone for the seller and not enough for the buyer. If it were $20 I would consider it, but at $30? I'm not sure its really worth it. The reusability factor is cool but honestly, I cut through much of my tape so Im not sure how much of it could actually be reused.
Yeah, the vinyl costs are rather high, so it's a low margin product. But as mentioned in the video, if you destroy most of your tape, then that product is not for you...
It's nice but they charge between 40$ and 176$ for shipping (to Europe) ... 😞
I know. I was thinking if I should import a box and resell them to safe people the shipping costs…
@@WoodensoulI would be in for that!
@@Woodensoul Approved 🙂
@@lizzard777 I will try to work something out...
@@maxime1008 SG, will try to work something out
I think this is a really neat idea, my concern would be that Shaper is owned by Tooltechnic Systems who also own Festool and SawStop. They have repeatedly shown that they will maintain their market dominance by enforcing through legal means their patents that they hold. It would seem that WonderTape is treading in that grey area so I hope they have consulted a lawyer before getting too deep into production and distribution.
Honestly, I have no idea. But the ShaperTape PDF generator is online for years…