I know I said I'd make reviews of the Resistance franchise but I wanted to take a slight break from console games to quickly get Timeshift done. Now it's time for Resistance! If you want to come join me going over the Resistance trilogy then give a follow on twitch, hope to see you there! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon
If memory serves, the antagonist is a scientist who stole a time suit and changed the past so he could be a dictator/ruler. Your character, before time is changed, takes a better version of the time suit and follows him.
played this when it came out and i thought i didnt understand the story because my english werent that great yet lol, turns out the story is just "there" @@Jarekthegamingdragon
That's interesting, I played this game when I was seven years old and I understood the story perfectly, even at seven. In fact I remembered the story to this day, I remembered that Krone was named Krone even. Disclaimer though, this was the first shooter I ever played, so that could be part of it.
Timeshift had some fun ideas. Stopping time, taking an enemies gun out of their hands then shooting them with it while they scramble to figure out what happened is great.
when they got on their knees and begged for their lives saying "I'm unarmed!"; I liked this game, and the story had potential. Sad that it was undercooked.
Reverse time is so under-utilized in this game. I wish there were more puzzles where that time power is better utilized. A tech demo from many, many years ago showed off a scenario where the protagonist had to sneak into a control room, so he broke the glass and climbed in. Then he reversed time so the window is unbroken again and the guards wouldn't notice. But something like that never made it into the game.
This is actually one of the old games that IO wouldn't mind seeing a remake of, a better clearer story, a bit longer, maybe more uses for the suit powers etc
@@warriorwolf77 there was an open ending for sequel. Jarek didnt have 1 more cutscene after killing the final bad boy. There was a scene, where you returning to the lab BEFORE the explosion, turning bomb off and when you wont to take the suit off, it warns you about time paradox ( is that right word? Anyway, sorry for my english ) and throws you in another time.
Bought this game from a kid in my class in middle school for 10 bucks and I thought this game was pretty kool but who really fell in love with this game and it’s time mechanics was my dad till this day I still walk in on him playing time shift he told me it was my best purchase of a game lol
You should look into getting hold of the Xbox 360 demo disc for the game, it was changed so much i development, it's virtually a completely different game. Quite fascinating.
I've seen a lot of videos on it. It looks like an entirely different game at that point. Always fascinating to see a game change that much in development. Let alone that late in development.
That is crazy. I did think looking at this that the demo looked so amazing while the game looks crap now, but wasn't sure if that was just childhood nostalgia. Similar to this, another game demo I played the shit out of was Fracture. But perhaps that one is worth forgetting.
Hopefully this clears some things up. There's some government-funded future-tech company working on a black project involving time manipulation, which is referred to as, "Metacognition." Their first prototype model is the B.E.T.A. suit and the would-be production model is the S.A.M. suit. You're one of the researchers working on the project under the development head, Doctor Krone. The Government, however, is investigating Doctor Krone on suspicion of ulterior motives and you, as well as a female scientist, are their moles. Eventually, the both of you discover that Doctor Krone indeed plans on using the B.E.T.A. suit, the completed stage 1 prototype, to further his own malevolent ends. He plans to travel back to an undetermined time period and use his knowledge of secret government technologies to build his own dictatorship over Earth whilst using time manipulation to essentially keep himself installed as the immortal, de-facto ruler. He understands that he's being watched and plans to destroy the research facility, as well as the S.A.M. suit, which has yet to undergo trials, in order to prevent anyone from stopping him. You manage to equip the S.A.M. suit and attempt a time jump in order to pursue Doctor Krone, but the damage sustained alongside the S.A.M.'s own system errors lead to a critical malfunction in its capabilities. You are propelled to an alternate, present/future timeline in which Doctor Krone is combating a stiff resistance. Your suit is no longer capable of making long-distance time jumps, so alongside the primary goal of stopping Krone, your secondary objective is to acquire technology from the B.E.T.A. suit in order to re-enable long-distance time jumps. After a hard-fought campaign, you execute a wounded Doctor Krone, re-enable long-distance time jumps, and presumably un-fuck the world by also killing the Krone that appeared in the aforementioned undetermined time period, before he can create paradoxes or accelerate the growth of technology beyond the original timeline. That part, however, is not played nor is it shown in a cutscene. It is merely inferred by the actual end-game cutscene where the player character simply disarms the bomb in the government facility and nothing else really happens. Well, aside from S.A.M. detecting a paradox and forcing another jump, but we never got that sequel.
Your suit is the B.E.T.A suit where as Krones suit is the Alpha suit! Its S.S.A.M not S.A.M and it stands for Strategic System for Adabtable Metacognision and that is your A.I that warns you of hazzards and enemies nearby and can hack everything(a long with many other things like any other videogame A.I)! You arent just a mole who was paid by the government but rather a secret agent its why he is so good with weapons(even if they are futuristic)!
@@fawerty-rx I think there was a time-enhanced enemy later on where because their guns are mechanically griped in their hand, you can't even yank them out while in time-stop mode. It's nice little details.
2007 - my favourite year. I got both Time Shift and Crysis at the same time in 2007. They stood out to me for their replayability, their aesthetic. And I played Mass Effect that year too. 2007 was a year to remember - just before the financial crisis, just before a lot of things started to fall apart.
My favorite levels were those where you and the rebels were fighting in the city, the atmosphere was amazing. I got a serious war of the world's steam punk vibe, easily left a huge impression on me; the later levels were pretty flat by comparison.
@@onderceyhan5185 I don't think it's as amazing as some people say... But those people are loud. It's fine, and wish modern environments had more interactivity to them like Crysis did.
Holy shit I forgot how crazy 2007 was. I didn't realize those all came out that year. I remember getting the Orange Box though, that was probably best deal ever in gaming. Getting HL2, Portal, Counter Strike Source and TF2 for $50. Valve really wanted to get people on Steam
I never played half life, still haven’t, so when I played TimeShift it was unlike anything I had seen prior. At this point I was 13 and played plenty of other shooters. Also I think I bought the game new for $40 usd.
Just subscribed, been watching for the passed few days and it's awesome to see games being review that are unknown to most. If you haven't yet review Fracture and Dark Void.
A LOT of the story comes from context clues which means it’s up to the player to put the pieces together. This facility is creating a Time Machine. Dr. Krone, one of the overseeing scientists decides that he can steal a Time Machine and give himself power but before he does that, he destroys the only lab working on time travel and in turn (he thinks) also destroying the other Time Machine. Your anonymous player decides everyone is going to die, I’ll steal the other Time Machine but his malfunctions and time jumps him into a random point in time where Krone has already started his dictatorship and you meet a resistance trying to oppose him. Those 10-25 second cutscenes are “memories” and they show the relationships of the scientists and how Krone was planning to steal the suit. At the end of the game, the paradox is, you only decided to time travel AFTER the bomb went off but if you stopped the bomb, how did you ever decide to use the suit?
It looks like the creator of this video didn't have the right video codecs for the CGI cutscenes, because I just saw a Let's Play of the ending, and there's way more to it than what we see in this old video. I think that's why the plot made no sense to the creator.
I remember going to my grandpa's house every weekend, looking forward to playing this game (Roughly 8 years ago). I'm pretty sure this game is what sparked my love for fps games. Good times.
It was the Time abilities that made it fun. I loved stealing guns out of enemies' hands while time was literally paused, and the time rewinding was interesting and actually handled in a plausible way.
@@NexusKin A lot of cool ideas also didn't make it into the final game. I remember in a very early developer notes, they were saying how they could utilize Reverse Time for interesting sneaking and puzzle opportunities. Like a sequence where you needed to break the glass in a sneaking mission to get into the control room, and then reverse time to repair the glass so that a patrolling guard would walk by without realizing what happened.
Basic gist of the story is that krone stole one of two time suits in order to gain power for some reason(that isnt necessarily explained but whatever, he basically holds the world hostage for a couple years because he can control time) You as one of the scientists is running away from the explosion of the lab and you hop into the second suit activate it and you arrive in the future after krone has taken complete control of the world. After that you run into the resistance which takes you in after they see how good of a soldier you are because of your suit, after that its pretty much say hey release this legendary squad of the rebels in order to boost moral and etc etc then it all ends with you fighting krone in his giant mech spider city thing and then you shoot him in the head ending the timeline or something like that and freeing the world . Thats the cliff notes of the story for anyone who is interested
The Timeshift manuel which came with my 360 copy of the game told you a lot more about the characters and story. Not a very efficient way of doing it, but... Crone was a horrible person who worked for the scientist guys developing the suit. He was the project lead. Then he stole the suit and went back to the 1930s and started up a Hitlerian regime. Your guy, the beta suit guy, was a spy who had been told to keep an eye on Crone during the suit's development to ensure he didn’t steal the suit...which kinda happened anyway. So your guy jumped in the beta suit and followed him back.
4:35 - There was supposed to be final pre-rendered cutscene before the credits where you return in the facility from the opening, defuse a bomb, then your costume warns about time paradox and warps you into unknown time and place. Literally, your character just disappears, ending this game with cliffhanger. I really want a sequel for this game. I even wrote a TimeShift/MLP crossover in 2013 when I was 16 years old, which follows the ending of this game. It was like the costume warped protagonist into different universe XD
The cutscene did play, I edited it out so the video would flow better as it didn't tell as any thing and just added more plot holes. "I even wrote a TimeShift/MLP crossover in 2013 " Oh god no. If I had a timesuit I'd go back and time and prevent MLP from existing.
I played and beat Timeshift at launch...but I’ve played probably 80% of every game release every year since the PS1 launched. Been going since 1980 when I was 6 and my Dad bought my bro and I an Atari 2600. Something I didn’t realize until later is crazy remembering how poor we were, eating cut up hot dogs and pork and beans probably 5 times a week for years as a kid. Later, my Dad worked up to making $40 per hour as a machinist, but back then he supported us with a minimum wage job while going to night school and working for free in an apprenticeship program he convinced a Machinist company to start himself, yet still had to apply for. Crazy. Mad respect now that I’m older.
What I really miss from this era are super aggressive bump maps on every texture paired with hard shadows. Like Timeshift or Stalker. It really just looks perfect to me
My dad and I played this game and really enjoyed it. That time neither of us spoke or understood English, so the lack of story wasn't a big deal. I remember being mindblown when I realized Half Life 2 had a story lol
I remember playing the first demo for Timeshift over and over. This was like 2 years before the game finally came out. The final game was completely different, it seems like they redid the whole art style and story halfway through development. That's probably why the story is so god awful.
You're right. Due to long development cycle, they had to rework on the game engine and make it competent atleast to the level of unreal engine 3 (which was the defacto standard at the time). This seriously nerfed the game and in the end we got an half assed game that was pretty generic to say the least...
I think this games biggest falure is its story as it has so much promise given the premise as well as the suit just having a good design as well as the world generaly having this alternate timeline almost steam/electro punk hybrid vibe going on but they just kinda ignored it and thats a real shame it feels like the story in the 90's doom where you can tell its there but you as the player have no fucking clue whats happening I think the best way I can think of to describe the story is it feels like we were dropped into act 2 and then when we hit the climax it just stops. not ends stops. so your missing all the context for the events of the game and your missing any and all resolution to said events however to me from a gameplay point of view the game feels like it realeased like half way through the balancing process where you have guns like the pistol and the assult rifle (which looks dope as hell) feel like they have no bite and the enemies feel like sponges then you get the crossbow and all the sudden enemies are falling in one hit also just a personal thing I wish the time powers lasted a few seconds longer and recharged a few seconds faster because I always feel like I am waiting for my powers to come back rather than actually using them that could just be me being bad at the game though also there is a single use for the rewind power I have found in combat and that is if you get hit with a sticky granade you can rewind time to get it off you other than that it is only useful for puzzles
I always loved stealing the enemy weapon, walk behind them, start time, then watch they be all *Where'd my gun go*, then BAM. Reverse time was useful in combat when you want to reverse any enemy shots.
Rewind time is great in combat if you need to undo a missed opportunity or a bad grenade throw. When they rush you with the shotgun murder maniacs later in the game on harder difficulties its almost a requirement to rewind time a few times just to figure out the exact positions of each one
It's interesting how two people can have such radically different experiences playing the same game. I ADORED the "show, don't tell" direction the developers took with this title. Everything you need to know could be gleaned from the world. Dr Krone (chronos) steals a time suit from work, travels back in time, and in so doing, kills your lady. Looking for some getback, you take the less advanced suit and follow him back in time, arriving a good deal later than Krone did. He has used this time to become a technocratic dictator, utilizing his technical knowledge to bring 1939 up to a level of technology comparable, and in some ways superior, to our own. Judging from Krone's public address messages, many citizens are rebelling against being "registered" with his regime, ergo the scrappin'. Hijinks ensue. I loved that, for once, a developer didn't hold our hands and stuff the story down our stupid throats. We arrive, as does our protagonist, in an unknown city, confused as to what the f*ck is going on. I liked that sense confusion, and having to piece it together along with the hero. Different strokes, I guess.
I remember playing this game when I was younger, And I thought it was awesome. then one day my dad got pissed off and broke it in half... I never beat it...
Krone was one of the scientists working on the time-shifting suits. He stole the Alpha suit and went back in time and took over the world with future tech and knowledge. Your character (in the Beta suit) jumps and is essentially working to undo Krone's meddling. Basic as plots go, but it *is* there. I played through it once as a kid years and years ago and I still remember the fundamentals. Love your videos, by the way. Keep up the good work.
I like this but I really wish the opening cutscene was more clear. At first I thought it was set in the near-future and your suit protected you when history got altered by Krone so you started at the same point in time Krone shifted from just the new history's version of it. But I've also read that you shifted both back in time and across to the new timeline because your suit being damaged prevented you from jumping to the exact point Krone did, and the reason you end up in a Krone ruled timeline is you didn't jump back as far as he did and most of the game after the opening occurs in an universe Korne created parallel to your own. However the suit was equipped so you could return to your native time and universe at will except the damage to your suit prevents a return jump. So your goal is to get the parts to repair it. Killing Krone just also happens to be a means to get the parts you need from his suit. Edit: to be clear I originally believed it would work like in Terminator. Krone goes back in time and alters history but it takes time for his changes to take hold. So I thought before they took hold you got into a suit that would protect you and were fighting him in the altered present not the altered past. I thought your goal was to find him and kill him in the present then finish your suit, go back in time, and prevent him from altering history.
You may not have known this or it probably didn't work anymore, but there was a multiplayer for this game. The demo for it had access to a few maps and game modes. The powers worked as throwable grenades with varying abilities. You would create spheres of time-wapr. I'd say this had one of the most memorable multiplayers because you could shut off vents with a freeze time, jump off buildings with a slow time to catch yourself, fill in an entrance to a tunnel with rockets using freeze time and even have people blowthemselves up or stick themselves with the crossbow using reverse time. If you caught someone in a freeze time, you could run around the warp bubble and surround them in flame or bullets or shells. The'd be gibbed for certain. Needless to say, if the multiplayer made a comeback with modern graphics and combat mechanics, it'd be a big hit.
When you actually use time reverse in combat it is really useful for setting up more efficient attacks especially indoors. Like getting a whole squad to stand back near explosive barrels saving you ammo. Hell I even used it to repair some cover before using time stop to regen my health. Time reverse is pretty underrated.
God, I remember 2007. There were so many people playing COD and Halo 3 that it crasehd xbox live for like a week. Also, I do remember timeshift. There were quite a few interesting shooters in that era. Timeshift, singularity, prey, wolfenstein. They just got lost in the shuffle of bro shooters.
Now I know I love this game more then I should but personally this is my favorite game not even DOOM ETERNAL beats it for me although that could be because this is quite literally the only shooter I had till I was 6 to 7 then I got gears. For some reason though I have played the campaign AT LEAST 20 times.
Kronos was a scientist who worked on the project with your team, he then decided to take the first version of the time suit to go back into the past to use his advanced knowledge to take over the world. The main character was a military liaison, and when they saw what Kron was doing the other scientists put the main character into the second more refined version of the time suit. This protected the protagonist from the changes in the time line and launched him into the past to a time a few years after when Kron transported too, I believe the first version of the suit couldn't control time that well so he just kinda pointed it and hoped for the best. Basically he's just your typical crazy scientist.
One of the first games i finished when i was a kid. I was so young, i didn't know you could finish games or that they even had an ending. Opened my eyes.
Honestly this is one of my favorite shooters of all time. I loved stopping time and putting loading 10 shotgun shells into a dude and turning him to a red mist
when i would come to my dads house and see the cover of timeshift i would get so hyped to play the game and continue to finish the it, it really was the sickest game out and i was like 10 years old
Multiplayer was crazy fun back in the days. Instead of using the suit, you had grenades that used the time mechanic in the zone they landed into. You could use the reverse grenade to propulse yourself in the air. Or Stop time in a zone, shoot that zone, and have a MEGA blast at your opponent.
The thing about TimeShift that's most interesting to me, is that it apparently has the same composer as the Legend of Spyro trilogy and Crash Twinsanity.
When I played it I understood that Crone is one of the scientists working with me (player), this short-haired girl (with whom I have an affair) and the other guy who shows up in a panic. Our job is to develop this time-manipulating costume. Crone betrays us all, steals one of the suits, implants a bomb in the lab to kill us all and erase his tracks, and travels back in time to a time that feels like the 40s or 50s (so things get a little steam punk). The civil war is going on the year Crone went there because he became a dictator there (this is pretty clear to me). Me, I take one of the prototypes of the suit before the bomb goes off and travel back in time to the same time Crone escape. The rest is easy to understand. I love this game.
This game made a huge impact on me, probably because I played half life 2 for the first time after it but still “Timeshift” is and always will be one of my fondest gaming memories
I remember playing the demo on the PS3 somewhere around 2008-2009 when I was a kid, and it was awesome, basically the starting level with the bridge section.
Wow I just realized this is the game that I sued to see at the video store and eventually was sitting on my dad's desk for along time, always had its vision in the back memory and now I know where its from
Cyberpunk edgerunners unlocked my memory if this game😂.. when David use his sandy I thought ,” I remember a game where I can slow, freeze , and rewind time
Crysis also came out the same year. I remember looking at Timeshift and thinking it reminded me of Crysis because of the suit that gives the protagonist superpowers.
This is possibly the greatest game I purchased but didn't play. Things in my life were incredibly busy and I let this slip me by. I always think about it and appreciate what it could/should have been.
What's funny is that I saw a poster of TimeShift in a teacher's classroom in my Highschool who I forgot the name of because I was never assigned to his class. I was only in his room because I was an IT Computer Student that needed to fix his old office pc. I was thinking the whole time how fucken cool his helmet was but I sadly I had no time to chat as I needed to fix half the schools computers that day. If I were one of his students I would ask bruh do you really like this game? That single poster has been there for so many years and it still may be up there till this day. Rarely do I see teachers express their appreciation for gaming so that was kind weird for me.
Man I remember playing the demo all day online because that’s what everyone was on I literally looking at the demo on my account and I looked it up to see if I was only person who played it
ON the story: the implication in the cutscenes was that Kronen came to "your" timeline when one of the probing test hit his timeline and ?destroyed? it, and thats how he knows time travel is possible? Same with you? You are Kronen from the sideways future? Can you tell there were 4 rewrites and 2 start-overs?
Great review, like you I loved the game's weapons and found the combat to be satisfying. As for the story... it was rewritten during development, forcing them to get rid of expensive cutscenes featuring the voice talents of Hollywood actors Dennis Quaid and Michael Ironside. The game does still have a backstory, but its only given in the manual! For an explanation of the game's original story, I did a video in which I give a detailed history of the game's troubled development: ruclips.net/video/pKYcDHZVgMo/видео.html The subsequent videos are a thorough Let's Play of the entire game, during which I discuss various plot and setting details as and when they occur (those mysterious little flashbacks you get occasionally), but if you want to skip to the finale I give a full explanation of the game's ending during the credits: ruclips.net/video/06GdM95OrIU/видео.html I've also put up the full backstory and character details (from the original manual) on my page on the LParchive: lparchive.org/TimeShift/
I really enjoy your LPs, and would've shared a link to your channel if you didn't already commented. Its a good selection of videos, and really nice in-depth discussion of the game itself.
Does anyone else remember the original demo disc for this game? The art direction was completely different and you could use your power indefinitely. I always liked the old art style better
Played this Over a decade ago i still remember scenes where i was stuck for hrs as a kid especially around the 6 min mark the rest of that mission is easier in stealth but to do it is so hard
Love this game, from what I remember the story was, Crono was a scientist with you, stealing the suit to turn the future into his image, and trying to destroy the second switch no one can follow him.
I had played this soon after it came out and I remember renting it via gamefly on X360 and bought it because it looked interesting and it's sad to see this game never going anywhere but who knows, maybe there will be some sort of a follow-up and I still have a copy on my shelf and I would like to return to play it one day via PC. And seeing you played this surprised me that you got to this. One more thing I kinda find funny, if you were to throw a grenade and reverse time, the grenade does not come back.
A quick note for those who want to play this game now, it is not officially supported by anyone, and - if you’re like me and wanting to play it on a newer system - the game doesn’t run on systems with more than 8 threads. In order to get it to run, you will need to go into BIOS and disable Hyper-threading (I know AMD calls it SMT), or disable all but 4 cores. Then the game will run.
i still have my copy i got at gamestop in the clearance bin when i was a child and convinced my mom to buy it for me because it looked “cool” and i LOVED game.
I know I said I'd make reviews of the Resistance franchise but I wanted to take a slight break from console games to quickly get Timeshift done. Now it's time for Resistance! If you want to come join me going over the Resistance trilogy then give a follow on twitch, hope to see you there! www.twitch.tv/jarek4gamingdragon
Hey what made you get Walter p99 for a concealed carry
A little bit of hit or miss, hmmmm...
Fun game. Budget pick up. Look for the sales.
Pretty sure I paid under 10 at gamestop used. And finished it maybe early last year. Good cheap fun. [B.Bane]
JarekTheGamingDragon please do a review of Fracture, I thin it came out 10 years ago lol
If memory serves, the antagonist is a scientist who stole a time suit and changed the past so he could be a dictator/ruler.
Your character, before time is changed, takes a better version of the time suit and follows him.
That's the gist of the story, yea. It's explained *very* poorly and really doesn't get any deeper than that.
@@Jarekthegamingdragon True. The only reason I know is because I remember looking at the game's wikipedia page a few months back when it was on sale.
Correct except he takes the inferior suit
played this when it came out and i thought i didnt understand the story because my english werent that great yet lol, turns out the story is just "there" @@Jarekthegamingdragon
That's interesting, I played this game when I was seven years old and I understood the story perfectly, even at seven. In fact I remembered the story to this day, I remembered that Krone was named Krone even. Disclaimer though, this was the first shooter I ever played, so that could be part of it.
Timeshift had some fun ideas. Stopping time, taking an enemies gun out of their hands then shooting them with it while they scramble to figure out what happened is great.
when they got on their knees and begged for their lives saying "I'm unarmed!"; I liked this game, and the story had potential. Sad that it was undercooked.
Those details are all great but it's a shame the actual moment to moment gameplay is bog standard when not using powers.
Reverse time is so under-utilized in this game. I wish there were more puzzles where that time power is better utilized. A tech demo from many, many years ago showed off a scenario where the protagonist had to sneak into a control room, so he broke the glass and climbed in. Then he reversed time so the window is unbroken again and the guards wouldn't notice. But something like that never made it into the game.
@@winghong3 Yeah. I wish there was more time reversal puzzles. They had a few, but time reversal got to be the coolest part of it (well, one of)
I thought I was the only person who ever played this game lmao. I loved it
Two Jewish Fish yes literally you where the ONLY one on earth that ever played this.
I played the game when I was younger on the 360
It was one of the first my FPS game
@@skrypt58 Same! Awesome game!
@@nmazer Tottaly agree with you!
This is actually one of the old games that IO wouldn't mind seeing a remake of, a better clearer story, a bit longer, maybe more uses for the suit powers etc
I don't want remake, I want sequel.
I don't see how a sequel could be possible unless they pull a clear sky and make the protag from the first game the antagonist in the second.
warriorwolf77 New character, different time periods?I don't know they can think about something.
@@warriorwolf77 quantum break
@@warriorwolf77 there was an open ending for sequel. Jarek didnt have 1 more cutscene after killing the final bad boy. There was a scene, where you returning to the lab BEFORE the explosion, turning bomb off and when you wont to take the suit off, it warns you about time paradox ( is that right word? Anyway, sorry for my english ) and throws you in another time.
Bought this game from a kid in my class in middle school for 10 bucks and I thought this game was pretty kool but who really fell in love with this game and it’s time mechanics was my dad till this day I still walk in on him playing time shift he told me it was my best purchase of a game lol
That's so cool
So wholesome!
Can I have your dad?
Do you dad a favor and buy him prince of Persia then
Also FEAR
You should look into getting hold of the Xbox 360 demo disc for the game, it was changed so much i development, it's virtually a completely different game. Quite fascinating.
I've seen a lot of videos on it. It looks like an entirely different game at that point. Always fascinating to see a game change that much in development. Let alone that late in development.
The Demo was AMAZING and i loved the multiplayer
@@CursedMoistMan690 really?
I wish I can reply it
That is crazy. I did think looking at this that the demo looked so amazing while the game looks crap now, but wasn't sure if that was just childhood nostalgia.
Similar to this, another game demo I played the shit out of was Fracture. But perhaps that one is worth forgetting.
Hopefully this clears some things up.
There's some government-funded future-tech company working on a black project involving time manipulation, which is referred to as, "Metacognition." Their first prototype model is the B.E.T.A. suit and the would-be production model is the S.A.M. suit. You're one of the researchers working on the project under the development head, Doctor Krone. The Government, however, is investigating Doctor Krone on suspicion of ulterior motives and you, as well as a female scientist, are their moles.
Eventually, the both of you discover that Doctor Krone indeed plans on using the B.E.T.A. suit, the completed stage 1 prototype, to further his own malevolent ends. He plans to travel back to an undetermined time period and use his knowledge of secret government technologies to build his own dictatorship over Earth whilst using time manipulation to essentially keep himself installed as the immortal, de-facto ruler. He understands that he's being watched and plans to destroy the research facility, as well as the S.A.M. suit, which has yet to undergo trials, in order to prevent anyone from stopping him.
You manage to equip the S.A.M. suit and attempt a time jump in order to pursue Doctor Krone, but the damage sustained alongside the S.A.M.'s own system errors lead to a critical malfunction in its capabilities. You are propelled to an alternate, present/future timeline in which Doctor Krone is combating a stiff resistance. Your suit is no longer capable of making long-distance time jumps, so alongside the primary goal of stopping Krone, your secondary objective is to acquire technology from the B.E.T.A. suit in order to re-enable long-distance time jumps.
After a hard-fought campaign, you execute a wounded Doctor Krone, re-enable long-distance time jumps, and presumably un-fuck the world by also killing the Krone that appeared in the aforementioned undetermined time period, before he can create paradoxes or accelerate the growth of technology beyond the original timeline. That part, however, is not played nor is it shown in a cutscene. It is merely inferred by the actual end-game cutscene where the player character simply disarms the bomb in the government facility and nothing else really happens. Well, aside from S.A.M. detecting a paradox and forcing another jump, but we never got that sequel.
Your suit is the B.E.T.A suit where as Krones suit is the Alpha suit! Its S.S.A.M not S.A.M and it stands for Strategic System for Adabtable Metacognision and that is your A.I that warns you of hazzards and enemies nearby and can hack everything(a long with many other things like any other videogame A.I)! You arent just a mole who was paid by the government but rather a secret agent its why he is so good with weapons(even if they are futuristic)!
Dr. Aiden Krone didn’t stand a chance but I used to like to play as him in multiplayer games
8:26 That guy's reaction is just priceless. I love that detail. You can just grab people's guns out of their hands while time is frozen!?
Yep and they actually kind of expand on it too IIRC when there’s enemies with guns that read fingerprints and stuff
@@fawerty-rx I think there was a time-enhanced enemy later on where because their guns are mechanically griped in their hand, you can't even yank them out while in time-stop mode. It's nice little details.
2007 - my favourite year. I got both Time Shift and Crysis at the same time in 2007. They stood out to me for their replayability, their aesthetic. And I played Mass Effect that year too. 2007 was a year to remember - just before the financial crisis, just before a lot of things started to fall apart.
good times
And it just getting worse
My favorite levels were those where you and the rebels were fighting in the city, the atmosphere was amazing. I got a serious war of the world's steam punk vibe, easily left a huge impression on me; the later levels were pretty flat by comparison.
Exactly!
I loved this game, it is underrated. I hope we get sequel one day.
This was that one mysterious game that i always saw on the shelf at gamestop and never bothered trying.
You brought up 4 very important 2007 FPS games... But you didn't bring up Crysis. Surprising omission.
Maybe that is because crysis is an utter shit game besides good graphics for it's time.
@@onderceyhan5185 I don't think it's as amazing as some people say... But those people are loud. It's fine, and wish modern environments had more interactivity to them like Crysis did.
he also forgot about the classic masterpiece, terrorist takedown 2
Or team fortress 2, especially considering its still active today
@@onderceyhan5185 is a fun game what are u talking about
Could you review Singularity?
I plan to eventually!
@@Jarekthegamingdragon Cool!
@@Jarekthegamingdragon as to "timetravel games" i can also recommend darkest of days
Although I haven't played time shift this game seems to be a lot like singularly a game I very much enjoyed.
Great game!
Holy shit I forgot how crazy 2007 was. I didn't realize those all came out that year. I remember getting the Orange Box though, that was probably best deal ever in gaming. Getting HL2, Portal, Counter Strike Source and TF2 for $50. Valve really wanted to get people on Steam
2007 was the killer year for the 7th gen. Since it really kick off the generation, with so many big AAA of new and old Franchise.
Crysis, Quake Wars, Bioshock, CoD4...2007 could arguably be the best year of video gaming.
I never played half life, still haven’t, so when I played TimeShift it was unlike anything I had seen prior. At this point I was 13 and played plenty of other shooters. Also I think I bought the game new for $40 usd.
play Black Mesa! a fresh new take on the classic. the game will always cut your life in half!
Really happy to find out you did a review on this!
I love timeshift and I own from 2007 and I Love the makeup of the campaign
Just subscribed, been watching for the passed few days and it's awesome to see games being review that are unknown to most.
If you haven't yet review Fracture and Dark Void.
I bought this on the 360 for $3 yesterday. I did this because of that outrageous price tag on Steam.
A LOT of the story comes from context clues which means it’s up to the player to put the pieces together. This facility is creating a Time Machine. Dr. Krone, one of the overseeing scientists decides that he can steal a Time Machine and give himself power but before he does that, he destroys the only lab working on time travel and in turn (he thinks) also destroying the other Time Machine. Your anonymous player decides everyone is going to die, I’ll steal the other Time Machine but his malfunctions and time jumps him into a random point in time where Krone has already started his dictatorship and you meet a resistance trying to oppose him. Those 10-25 second cutscenes are “memories” and they show the relationships of the scientists and how Krone was planning to steal the suit. At the end of the game, the paradox is, you only decided to time travel AFTER the bomb went off but if you stopped the bomb, how did you ever decide to use the suit?
It looks like the creator of this video didn't have the right video codecs for the CGI cutscenes, because I just saw a Let's Play of the ending, and there's way more to it than what we see in this old video. I think that's why the plot made no sense to the creator.
When you first see the clone bois that can slow down time; you know shit was getting real.
My dad used to collect discs full of game demos for our Xbox 360, and this was one of the demos I played more than once
I remember going to my grandpa's house every weekend, looking forward to playing this game (Roughly 8 years ago). I'm pretty sure this game is what sparked my love for fps games. Good times.
I loved this game so much. I don't know why but everything of that game was so good. It was something new I guess.
It was the Time abilities that made it fun. I loved stealing guns out of enemies' hands while time was literally paused, and the time rewinding was interesting and actually handled in a plausible way.
@@NexusKin A lot of cool ideas also didn't make it into the final game. I remember in a very early developer notes, they were saying how they could utilize Reverse Time for interesting sneaking and puzzle opportunities. Like a sequence where you needed to break the glass in a sneaking mission to get into the control room, and then reverse time to repair the glass so that a patrolling guard would walk by without realizing what happened.
Thanks for featuring this game!
Basic gist of the story is that krone stole one of two time suits in order to gain power for some reason(that isnt necessarily explained but whatever, he basically holds the world hostage for a couple years because he can control time) You as one of the scientists is running away from the explosion of the lab and you hop into the second suit activate it and you arrive in the future after krone has taken complete control of the world. After that you run into the resistance which takes you in after they see how good of a soldier you are because of your suit, after that its pretty much say hey release this legendary squad of the rebels in order to boost moral and etc etc then it all ends with you fighting krone in his giant mech spider city thing and then you shoot him in the head ending the timeline or something like that and freeing the world . Thats the cliff notes of the story for anyone who is interested
This is the type of game i rented on blockbuster on friday with my father and play it for the rest of the weekend
The Timeshift manuel which came with my 360 copy of the game told you a lot more about the characters and story. Not a very efficient way of doing it, but...
Crone was a horrible person who worked for the scientist guys developing the suit. He was the project lead. Then he stole the suit and went back to the 1930s and started up a Hitlerian regime.
Your guy, the beta suit guy, was a spy who had been told to keep an eye on Crone during the suit's development to ensure he didn’t steal the suit...which kinda happened anyway. So your guy jumped in the beta suit and followed him back.
4:35 - There was supposed to be final pre-rendered cutscene before the credits where you return in the facility from the opening, defuse a bomb, then your costume warns about time paradox and warps you into unknown time and place. Literally, your character just disappears, ending this game with cliffhanger. I really want a sequel for this game.
I even wrote a TimeShift/MLP crossover in 2013 when I was 16 years old, which follows the ending of this game. It was like the costume warped protagonist into different universe XD
The cutscene did play, I edited it out so the video would flow better as it didn't tell as any thing and just added more plot holes.
"I even wrote a TimeShift/MLP crossover in 2013 " Oh god no. If I had a timesuit I'd go back and time and prevent MLP from existing.
Not that I'm proud of my little debacle of a fanfic XD
I played and beat Timeshift at launch...but I’ve played probably 80% of every game release every year since the PS1 launched. Been going since 1980 when I was 6 and my Dad bought my bro and I an Atari 2600. Something I didn’t realize until later is crazy remembering how poor we were, eating cut up hot dogs and pork and beans probably 5 times a week for years as a kid. Later, my Dad worked up to making $40 per hour as a machinist, but back then he supported us with a minimum wage job while going to night school and working for free in an apprenticeship program he convinced a Machinist company to start himself, yet still had to apply for. Crazy. Mad respect now that I’m older.
I downloaded the demo for 360 back in the day and was hooked. This is an absolute underrated gem imo
i want this game to get a sequel that does even more weird time shit
What I really miss from this era are super aggressive bump maps on every texture paired with hard shadows. Like Timeshift or Stalker. It really just looks perfect to me
My dad and I played this game and really enjoyed it. That time neither of us spoke or understood English, so the lack of story wasn't a big deal. I remember being mindblown when I realized Half Life 2 had a story lol
I’ve heard there are younger HL fans who played Gmod first and thought HL2 was mod for the former lol
I remember playing the first demo for Timeshift over and over. This was like 2 years before the game finally came out. The final game was completely different, it seems like they redid the whole art style and story halfway through development. That's probably why the story is so god awful.
You're right. Due to long development cycle, they had to rework on the game engine and make it competent atleast to the level of unreal engine 3 (which was the defacto standard at the time). This seriously nerfed the game and in the end we got an half assed game that was pretty generic to say the least...
The Demo level was really mindblowing. Good looking,Fun and a new style of gameplay.
.and that water effect.
If I remember correctly the original aethstetic was a lot more steampunk and less straight up futuristic.
I'm glad I'm not alone in playing the og demo. Loved it.
same
I think this games biggest falure is its story as it has so much promise given the premise as well as the suit just having a good design as well as the world generaly having this alternate timeline almost steam/electro punk hybrid vibe going on but they just kinda ignored it and thats a real shame
it feels like the story in the 90's doom where you can tell its there but you as the player have no fucking clue whats happening
I think the best way I can think of to describe the story is it feels like we were dropped into act 2 and then when we hit the climax it just stops. not ends stops. so your missing all the context for the events of the game and your missing any and all resolution to said events
however to me from a gameplay point of view the game feels like it realeased like half way through the balancing process where you have guns like the pistol and the assult rifle (which looks dope as hell) feel like they have no bite and the enemies feel like sponges then you get the crossbow and all the sudden enemies are falling in one hit also just a personal thing I wish the time powers lasted a few seconds longer and recharged a few seconds faster because I always feel like I am waiting for my powers to come back rather than actually using them that could just be me being bad at the game though
also there is a single use for the rewind power I have found in combat and that is if you get hit with a sticky granade you can rewind time to get it off you other than that it is only useful for puzzles
I always loved stealing the enemy weapon, walk behind them, start time, then watch they be all *Where'd my gun go*, then BAM.
Reverse time was useful in combat when you want to reverse any enemy shots.
I love watching your reviews on games I've never heard of! It is quite interesting.
Trying to load this on windows 10. I keep getting a unhandled exception issue
Rewind time is great in combat if you need to undo a missed opportunity or a bad grenade throw. When they rush you with the shotgun murder maniacs later in the game on harder difficulties its almost a requirement to rewind time a few times just to figure out the exact positions of each one
It's interesting how two people can have such radically different experiences playing the same game. I ADORED the "show, don't tell" direction the developers took with this title. Everything you need to know could be gleaned from the world. Dr Krone (chronos) steals a time suit from work, travels back in time, and in so doing, kills your lady. Looking for some getback, you take the less advanced suit and follow him back in time, arriving a good deal later than Krone did. He has used this time to become a technocratic dictator, utilizing his technical knowledge to bring 1939 up to a level of technology comparable, and in some ways superior, to our own. Judging from Krone's public address messages, many citizens are rebelling against being "registered" with his regime, ergo the scrappin'. Hijinks ensue. I loved that, for once, a developer didn't hold our hands and stuff the story down our stupid throats. We arrive, as does our protagonist, in an unknown city, confused as to what the f*ck is going on. I liked that sense confusion, and having to piece it together along with the hero. Different strokes, I guess.
I remember playing this game when I was younger, And I thought it was awesome. then one day my dad got pissed off and broke it in half...
I never beat it...
Krone was one of the scientists working on the time-shifting suits. He stole the Alpha suit and went back in time and took over the world with future tech and knowledge. Your character (in the Beta suit) jumps and is essentially working to undo Krone's meddling. Basic as plots go, but it *is* there. I played through it once as a kid years and years ago and I still remember the fundamentals. Love your videos, by the way. Keep up the good work.
Sadly the game doesnt Mention whatsoever that
I remember playing the demo right when I got my PS3 and hardly had any games
Same I loved the demo back then played it tons of times but never got the full game
I like this but I really wish the opening cutscene was more clear.
At first I thought it was set in the near-future and your suit protected you when history got altered by Krone so you started at the same point in time Krone shifted from just the new history's version of it. But I've also read that you shifted both back in time and across to the new timeline because your suit being damaged prevented you from jumping to the exact point Krone did, and the reason you end up in a Krone ruled timeline is you didn't jump back as far as he did and most of the game after the opening occurs in an universe Korne created parallel to your own.
However the suit was equipped so you could return to your native time and universe at will except the damage to your suit prevents a return jump. So your goal is to get the parts to repair it. Killing Krone just also happens to be a means to get the parts you need from his suit.
Edit: to be clear I originally believed it would work like in Terminator. Krone goes back in time and alters history but it takes time for his changes to take hold. So I thought before they took hold you got into a suit that would protect you and were fighting him in the altered present not the altered past. I thought your goal was to find him and kill him in the present then finish your suit, go back in time, and prevent him from altering history.
Played it, beat it, loved it!
You may not have known this or it probably didn't work anymore, but there was a multiplayer for this game. The demo for it had access to a few maps and game modes. The powers worked as throwable grenades with varying abilities. You would create spheres of time-wapr. I'd say this had one of the most memorable multiplayers because you could shut off vents with a freeze time, jump off buildings with a slow time to catch yourself, fill in an entrance to a tunnel with rockets using freeze time and even have people blowthemselves up or stick themselves with the crossbow using reverse time. If you caught someone in a freeze time, you could run around the warp bubble and surround them in flame or bullets or shells. The'd be gibbed for certain. Needless to say, if the multiplayer made a comeback with modern graphics and combat mechanics, it'd be a big hit.
When you actually use time reverse in combat it is really useful for setting up more efficient attacks especially indoors. Like getting a whole squad to stand back near explosive barrels saving you ammo. Hell I even used it to repair some cover before using time stop to regen my health. Time reverse is pretty underrated.
13 year old me loved this game. It was the first 18+ game I was allowed to play randomly, so it'll always have a special place in my heart!
I always used the pause time power to steal enemy weapons, kill them then reverse time to revive them
God, I remember 2007. There were so many people playing COD and Halo 3 that it crasehd xbox live for like a week. Also, I do remember timeshift. There were quite a few interesting shooters in that era. Timeshift, singularity, prey, wolfenstein. They just got lost in the shuffle of bro shooters.
Now I know I love this game more then I should but personally this is my favorite game not even DOOM ETERNAL beats it for me although that could be because this is quite literally the only shooter I had till I was 6 to 7 then I got gears. For some reason though I have played the campaign AT LEAST 20 times.
Kronos was a scientist who worked on the project with your team, he then decided to take the first version of the time suit to go back into the past to use his advanced knowledge to take over the world. The main character was a military liaison, and when they saw what Kron was doing the other scientists put the main character into the second more refined version of the time suit. This protected the protagonist from the changes in the time line and launched him into the past to a time a few years after when Kron transported too, I believe the first version of the suit couldn't control time that well so he just kinda pointed it and hoped for the best. Basically he's just your typical crazy scientist.
I still remember the opening cinematic where the needles shoot into the spine vividly
One of the first games i finished when i was a kid. I was so young, i didn't know you could finish games or that they even had an ending. Opened my eyes.
Honestly this is one of my favorite shooters of all time. I loved stopping time and putting loading 10 shotgun shells into a dude and turning him to a red mist
when i would come to my dads house and see the cover of timeshift i would get so hyped to play the game and continue to finish the it, it really was the sickest game out and i was like 10 years old
Multiplayer was crazy fun back in the days. Instead of using the suit, you had grenades that used the time mechanic in the zone they landed into. You could use the reverse grenade to propulse yourself in the air. Or Stop time in a zone, shoot that zone, and have a MEGA blast at your opponent.
I'm I the only one who still plays this 💓💓
Heh
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I'm refering to Effect and Cause level that was also called Timeshift during development
I was a little boy when this came out and I remember the live action trailer with the gas station being robbed.. I loved that trailer so much
The thing about TimeShift that's most interesting to me, is that it apparently has the same composer as the Legend of Spyro trilogy and Crash Twinsanity.
When I played it I understood that Crone is one of the scientists working with me (player), this short-haired girl (with whom I have an affair) and the other guy who shows up in a panic. Our job is to develop this time-manipulating costume. Crone betrays us all, steals one of the suits, implants a bomb in the lab to kill us all and erase his tracks, and travels back in time to a time that feels like the 40s or 50s (so things get a little steam punk). The civil war is going on the year Crone went there because he became a dictator there (this is pretty clear to me). Me, I take one of the prototypes of the suit before the bomb goes off and travel back in time to the same time Crone escape. The rest is easy to understand.
I love this game.
One of my favorite games from that time! I loved the whole time shifting mechanic!
This game kept me entertained for a lot while I was in my middle/early high school years. Still have my copy of it somewhere. Loved it.
I played the demos for this a lot on 360. I think you and the funhaus demo disk vids are probably the only videos I've seen on it.
Would love to see this game remade. Amazing concept.
This game made a huge impact on me, probably because I played half life 2 for the first time after it but still “Timeshift” is and always will be one of my fondest gaming memories
I remember playing the demo on the PS3 somewhere around 2008-2009 when I was a kid, and it was awesome, basically the starting level with the bridge section.
It's often on Steam at 50% off (£4.99 instead of £9.99) and I just grabbed it for the memories. Loved the demo, looking forward to playing more of it.
what do you mean, its 15 euros
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Wow I just realized this is the game that I sued to see at the video store and eventually was sitting on my dad's desk for along time, always had its vision in the back memory and now I know where its from
This game was one of my favorite lauch games
Cyberpunk edgerunners unlocked my memory if this game😂.. when David use his sandy I thought ,” I remember a game where I can slow, freeze , and rewind time
I still have a DVD with a demo of it before they scrapped the entire story and decided to redo it almost entirely
There is going to be a sequel eventually. Though, you just know it will be more of a prequel explaining the backstory.
Crysis also came out the same year. I remember looking at Timeshift and thinking it reminded me of Crysis because of the suit that gives the protagonist superpowers.
Time shift was so good and blew my mind in some parts back in the day
I feel like if this IP had the care and effort of a modern day studio it could be something huge
This is possibly the greatest game I purchased but didn't play. Things in my life were incredibly busy and I let this slip me by.
I always think about it and appreciate what it could/should have been.
What's funny is that I saw a poster of TimeShift in a teacher's classroom in my Highschool who I forgot the name of because I was never assigned to his class. I was only in his room because I was an IT Computer Student that needed to fix his old office pc. I was thinking the whole time how fucken cool his helmet was but I sadly I had no time to chat as I needed to fix half the schools computers that day. If I were one of his students I would ask bruh do you really like this game? That single poster has been there for so many years and it still may be up there till this day. Rarely do I see teachers express their appreciation for gaming so that was kind weird for me.
Man I remember playing the demo all day online because that’s what everyone was on
I literally looking at the demo on my account and I looked it up to see if I was only person who played it
ON the story:
the implication in the cutscenes was that Kronen came to "your" timeline when one of the probing test hit his timeline and ?destroyed? it, and thats how he knows time travel is possible? Same with you? You are Kronen from the sideways future?
Can you tell there were 4 rewrites and 2 start-overs?
Great review, like you I loved the game's weapons and found the combat to be satisfying. As for the story... it was rewritten during development, forcing them to get rid of expensive cutscenes featuring the voice talents of Hollywood actors Dennis Quaid and Michael Ironside. The game does still have a backstory, but its only given in the manual! For an explanation of the game's original story, I did a video in which I give a detailed history of the game's troubled development:
ruclips.net/video/pKYcDHZVgMo/видео.html
The subsequent videos are a thorough Let's Play of the entire game, during which I discuss various plot and setting details as and when they occur (those mysterious little flashbacks you get occasionally), but if you want to skip to the finale I give a full explanation of the game's ending during the credits: ruclips.net/video/06GdM95OrIU/видео.html
I've also put up the full backstory and character details (from the original manual) on my page on the LParchive: lparchive.org/TimeShift/
I really enjoy your LPs, and would've shared a link to your channel if you didn't already commented. Its a good selection of videos, and really nice in-depth discussion of the game itself.
I bet those wasted voice acting sessions hurt their budget for everything else too, usually something like that is a death sentence in the industry.
Does anyone else remember the original demo disc for this game? The art direction was completely different and you could use your power indefinitely. I always liked the old art style better
Played this Over a decade ago i still remember scenes where i was stuck for hrs as a kid especially around the 6 min mark the rest of that mission is easier in stealth but to do it is so hard
"I'm not going to encourage you to buy this game in any other way than the legal way, but I'm just saying it's $20, and y'know, yar har fiddle dee."
I paid £1 for the 360 version. Looks like I got my money's worth.
Love this game, from what I remember the story was, Crono was a scientist with you, stealing the suit to turn the future into his image, and trying to destroy the second switch no one can follow him.
Wasn't Dennis Quaid supposed to voice the lead character at one point?
Stopping time and grabbing guns out of the enemy hands never got old.
This game is backwards compatible on XBOX One now.
Good to know. It's a game I always wanted to play.
I want xbox one mainly too continue re playing and finishing these older games. This was a fun ride. Cool elements. Different enough.
I had played this soon after it came out and I remember renting it via gamefly on X360 and bought it because it looked interesting and it's sad to see this game never going anywhere but who knows, maybe there will be some sort of a follow-up and I still have a copy on my shelf and I would like to return to play it one day via PC.
And seeing you played this surprised me that you got to this.
One more thing I kinda find funny, if you were to throw a grenade and reverse time, the grenade does not come back.
Glad you mentioned the first level as it is quite memorable. Timeshift is good shooter with sci fi vibes of 80s & 90s movies
*nostalgia.*
A quick note for those who want to play this game now, it is not officially supported by anyone, and - if you’re like me and wanting to play it on a newer system - the game doesn’t run on systems with more than 8 threads. In order to get it to run, you will need to go into BIOS and disable Hyper-threading (I know AMD calls it SMT), or disable all but 4 cores. Then the game will run.
i still have my copy i got at gamestop in the clearance bin when i was a child and convinced my mom to buy it for me because it looked “cool” and i LOVED game.
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HOW DO I DOWNLOAD TIMESHIFT FOR PC . THANKS
I love rain in games, if it’s done well.
I FINALLY FOUND THE NAME, THIS SHIT WAS TRAPPED IN MY HEAD BUT I NEVER REMEMBERED THE NAME