I have a car I am junking, but also had a full tank of gas I'd rather not waste. Found you video, and by golly this totally worked. Thanks for this! Saved a lot of time, money, and headache. Awesome car hack.
this was not a 1 for 1 in my situation but this idea did get me to learn about relays and how they work. I was able to use that to jump my relay and siphon out the gas. I thank you sir, you are a true fucking legend.
I will be trying this tonight or this weekend. Being an Electrician, I think you should be able to ohm out your relay to identify which terminals you need to jumper. If you have a dead short between two terminals, that should be your coil. Once you identify your coil, the other two will be your "open" contacts that complete the circuit to your fuel puymp when the relay is energized.
Totally beat me to it… soooo, something like th ZZZT❗️🤬. Think I’ll stick w the paper clip. At least til I decide to change professions. Thanks for this- surprisingly not a topic addressed in the other 400 “siphon gas” vids. I had figured I was too stupid to even steal gas there til I changed the wording in my search!
Just connect terminal 87a to ground (I think its terminal 13). It may be 87 on some cars, but the two parallel ones are 87 and 87a (the ones that it will switch between).
I pumped 10 gallons out by just sitting there turning the key on and off for 15 min . My 05 Malibu had a different relay. But the fuel rail worked out great 👍🏻
Hello, u didnt at all do the relay stuff? Im not confident ill get that part right so i wanna make sure theres a way around that and still get the gas out
Excellent video. Thank you. It told me probably everything I needed to do to get the gas out of a car that is being salvaged in a clear, complete and concise manner. Very good. 👍
Thank you sir this was extremely helpful. I knew it could be done, just wasn't sure how to go about it. Got a car I just filled up and the timing chain went out. Not gonna replace it, so the car's going to the scrap yard, and I didn't wanna give away 20 gallons of gas for scrap weight. Much appreciated
My friends are always asking me to siphon gas and do all these things with siphoning gas I told them to go on the internet and find it out for themselves now I'm going to send them to your link because I can't stand asking the stupidest things when I already know these things and they just won't listen to me in the first place thanks to you I'll never be honest to siphon or have to do this again they will listen to you they won't listen to me thank you I've tried explaining this to them a million times
This method worked perfectly on a 2002 Malibu. Jumped the fuel pump relay which is in the engine compartment fuse box, removed the fuel rail pressure release core hooked a hose onto it into a gas can turn the ignition to acc and was able to drain most of the gas out of a car with a spun engine bearing.
I find it easier and safer to pop the cover from the relay and close the contacts manually. This usually just requires a pocket screwdriver. It also ensures nothing gets shorted on the control side. This came in especially handy when I had to troubleshoot a no spark condition myself and needed to crank the engine from under the hood. Hope it helps.
Your videos are outstanding, man. I'm about to finish a major engine overhaul on my '99 Grand Marquis and your videos have been a massive help. Everything from plastic welding, cleaning injectors, and draining the gas that sat in the tank for a year has been easier because you took the time to post a great video on it. Thank you so much @sixtyfiveford !
Thanks Awesome. But you say pull out the fuse then turn the key or leave the fuse in then turn the key on... So do I have to take out the fuse at all? Jump the relay. pull out fuse turn key, then put fuse back in and it will start to drain. Ty
By the time I am reading your comment, it shows “6 months old”. Here’s my take on the confusion with the fuse: If you want to have “local control” to start the pumping from under the hood, keep the fuse out until you are ready with the hose securely in the gas can/“gerry jug” and then plug in the fuse. If you want to do it from inside the vehicle (I don’t recommend this for safety’s sake!) then leave the fuse in but have the gas can visible near you when turning the key so you can monitor the filling. This scenario really makes me nervous. At gas stations, we aren’t supposed to reenter our vehicles during fueling operations or we can puck up a static charge that can spark when we return to the grounded fuel nozzle. Still, if a fire breaks out inside the highly flammable interior while siphoning gas, there’s nowhere to run. From under the hood you have a chance to escape! With that said, if weather allows, do it outside and away from any buildings in case of fire. Hint: Have a good, tested “ABC” fire extinguisher accessible and ready within seconds from the vehicle, just in case!
I just tried out your advice on draining the fuel tank and it worked like a charm. I did it for a 2003 ford explorer and the fuel relay is # 48 in the engine compartment. I put a jumper between pins 3 and 5 and once you do this the pump start pumping gas. pins 3 and 5 are the large pins on the relay. Thank you very much for your advice.
I needed to change my fuel filter and also drain some gas from the tank. So once I disconnected the fuel line at the filter, I used your method to run the fuel pump to get the gas.
I had no idea this could be done. I had to get a fuel pump changed out a while back and they said they could not save the gas as they did not have gas cans around, I bet they went and got some when I left. This is an interesting way to empty the fuel tank without sucking on a hose and getting gas in the mouth like back in the day. hahahahaha Thanks for sharing this with us.
I can agree from seeing it 1st hand mechanics would keep "good" tyres that had a lil life left in and fuel that had been siphoned from a car that put wrong fuel in i happens more than you realize
I am surprised you did not WARN of the pressure that could be at the test valve? Unscrewing the valve without relieving the pressure first is a good way to take a gas bath. If you pull the fuse or relay and crank the engine over should lower the pressure, and then take a rag and cover any object (a screw-driver works good) and press in the schrader valve should relieve any more built up pressure in the line.
Ben Bat Yeah, good point. I guess when you know what you're doing it's just normal to know there's a little pressure built up. I'll leave a note on the video.
sixtyfiveford I could see some people thinking if the key is off then there would be no pressure. That's how it looks like in your video. Gas in the eyes sucks!! Been there. I pulled a fuel rail that sat for over a year. I thought the pressure would have bleed off. I was wrong.
Thank you for this method. Second owner of a '97 Taurus SHO 22 years now!, and been in quiet storage at my home of 16 years. So, yes, about 1/3 tank of 93 octane = old fuel still in the tank. I have been seeking advice on just how to go about removing the fuel before putting it on the road for the car show season. From fuel filter removal to syphoning (which can't be done due to a heavy screen in the filler neck.), to hot wiring the fuel pump at the inertia switch in the trunk! But, today, after watching YOUR presentation, I went out in the garage and found the schrader valve off the fuel rail right on top of the engine! Right near by was the enclosure with the large fuses and relays. I believe I am going to try this! Can you tell me the ID of the hose you used? Thanks again so much for the push to get me going on something I have put off for years ! (O:
@@sixtyfiveford Thanks '65, I will come back to let you know how it turned out. Thanks for the into on the fuel line ID. I will order it up along with the Schrader tool. Stay tuned ((O:
Damn, finally found video showing which terminals I jump but was trying to figure out where to connect hose......remove the little valve omg replaced those on tires smh thank you I was having a brain fart now gotta find me a hose
I took out the Shader valve but there wasn't enough pressure to keep the engine running so I took another valve and busted the back end off and screwed it in place after taking all the internal part out. I attached a hose and started the engine and pumped all the gas into a can. I was surprised how much fuel came through the hose but still provided enough fuel to keep the engine running.
Dont work on 2005 volvo s40.Even if you close contacts of fuel relay manually.It just blew fuse.And all functions normally :car starts,drive around.Maybe something to do with fuel controle module.PEM if i recall correctly. All that i can figure out is to remove fuel pump and figure out which wires powers pump.Then connect with my own wires to battery after unplugging it from system and removed shrader valve to avoid overpressure on fuel line
Good video once again, but a good alternative (sometimes) is to find the fuel pump itself and just connect a 12v battery straight onto the pump, having first connected a hose to the fuel line. Saves all that messin' with the relays and stuff! Thanks 65 :-)
sixtyfiveford There you go, some subject matter for another video....Relay's. A practical demonstration showing that they are just switches that can switch a heavy load using only a light current. How, when and why they are used, how to test and trouble shoot etc. Just a thought! :-)
Still might need to drop the tank...just to replace the straps and hardware...Gas in there is from 2014. Will not even TRY to start on that stuff lol. I will have to prime the rails though, to get that crap out of the fuel lines lol. Finally getting to starting my baby after my wreck. Almost ten years...and both of us got messed up and totalled, but, its time. Im back to working out, and got my old steed started and running (on ether at least) and ready to start replacing and restoring!
Thanks for answering a few of My questions I had just topped off My tank the night before My Truck got totaled when a 19 year old girl turned left in front of Me Need to get that $50 plus fuel out before the wrecker hauls Her off Thanks
This is brilliant! Let's say the fuel pump is shot, what about an external pump to suck the fuel from the fuel port? There would be resistance from the non working fuel pump in the tank though.
Most of the time you can just whack the bottom of the gas tank where the fuel pump is and it will come back to life temporarily. I'm pretty sure there will be resistance if your trying to suck through this port.
I got a syphon hose into the gas tank by cutting the end of the hose on an angle, kind of pointed, and got the hose in over a lip by pushing and spinning the hose as I fed it in. I posted a video on my channel. Jeep Cherokee XJ.
Hey quick question! I have a 2008 Ford e350 van with two year old gas in it. Should I drain the fuel out of the system or just ad fresh gas and some water reduce product and start it up? Thanks for your videos! Love it!
Neighbor just sent one of those fwd Caddys to the junkyard last week. Sat in the yard for something like 20 years. I think I put it on IG. Shame, it was a solid car.
hi, so after jumping the relay, do i really need to remove the fuse and keep it off or it doesnt matter?...(this is before turning on the ignition to ON)... coz in your video you removed the fuse when you already have the "jumper" in the relay and then placed it back.... confusing if there is a reason why this was done... thanks
+Aldwin Cabangon The fuse is used just as a means to shut it on and off as most of the time it is located under the hood where you are working. Or like I mention in the video, just use the key.
Thank you, i have done the job and it went well, i kinda drained tje battery rwmoving the full thank of gas though, lol. But was able to recharge it and all went well
Super vid and your rite it's not easy to get gas out of a newer car these day's. I did my sisters pt last week with a full tank just to scrape the trash build up off the sending unit it was no fun.
sixtyfiveford Yes it did and the hose connected half way down on the tank. I was able to take the hose of and push the valve in and lower the tank on one side and drain 3/4's out. What a pain. And a mess. It would have been way easier to do it your way. It had a test port on the fuel rail too.
I just happened to be trying to pump fuel from a 2013 Equinox that has a pretty full tank because this car is just sitting for now. Disconnected the supply line before the schrader valve and connected some hose going into a container. I jumped the run crank relay but fuel pump will not stay on. Seems like a prime cycle or something. Is there an easy way to make the fuel pump run continuously? I mean, aside from crawling underneath and jumping 12v to the pump connector.
@@sixtyfiveford First off Thank you for your reply. No. It's not. The vehicle in this video appears to predate cambus module systems in cars. 2013 Chevy equinox I'm working on I now know has a fuel pump control module in the trunk. There is not a relay for JUST the fuel pump. Also there are 2 fuel pumps. Low pressure in the tank. High pressure pump on the side of the engine. There are 2 fuel line disconnects, one on either side of a schrader valve before the High pressure pump. There is a relay labeled "Run/Crank". I believe this only sends signal to the fuel pump module and engine module and so jumping this relay WILL NOT run the low pressure pump continuously. My guess is in order to turn the pump on and have it stay on one would have to find the wires from the module that power the pump and jump them there. OR disconnect the pump wires at the tank and jump 12v directly to the pump. There might also be a way to manually turn the pump on with a dealer level scan tool. Your video does not cover exactly these issues. AT ALL. It's also possible to have to jump 5v at the module to send signal to turn the pump on. IDK. I've only been looking into this since late last night. I was looking for and easy solution. There probably is. However, I do not understand enough about 2013 GM EcoTec fuel systems to Know how to turn on the low pressure pump continuously. And I do not think you do either based on the unhelpful and useless to me reply you left.
@@chad4132 The entire point of a relay is to pass the final high current to whatever device you're running; fuel pump in this scenario. The computer will send a low amperage signal to the relay to turn on or off the fuel pump.
Y did u turn the relay over to that particular orientation before u started drawing the diagram of its pins on the notebook? Not got any car electrics background.
If the jumper is connected to wrong contact any chance to blow out any electronics? I have a van with 18 gal of fuel that blew a head. The fuel is now stale but I will try it. Real sharp tip thanks for sharing.
How do you determine which relay box belongs to the fuel pump? I have three to choose from with the exact same pin layout you described (the other relays have only 4 pins). The Owners Manual identifies the fuse, but not the relay. Can this somehow be isolated with a multimeter? My beloved 2006 Volvo XC90 with 230K miles suffered its last final fatal breakdown (in an economic sense) in the driveway, just as I arrived home from the gas station with a full tank.
With the key in 'run' drawing that* much current from the battery how long until baddery jrains? About 70-80 min for regular head and parking litez to use up a 500 cca baddey
There is no link to the Tired Shocks and PVC support piece that you mentioned at the end of this video... I can't find that video... What is the title of it ???
That is a great way to extract gas. I just need to find the opening for fuel pressure measurement. Also not sure, so do you need to disconnect the Fuel Pump fuse, or leave it in? Thank you for the informative film.
I just bypass the whole relay part. i have a external universal pump with two jumper cable clips i think i paid 20 bucks for the pump and had one of those HFT battery maintainers and stole the alligator clips off that its good for vehicle pumps that dont work. But thats a great idea if you dont have a extra pump great vid .
Thanks for the help. I have a 1995 Oldsmobile Aurora and it took on a lot of water because the filler neck actually rusted through. The design of the filler door allows water to cascade on the top of the filler neck. Add to that there was dirt sticking on the top of the filler neck which held moisture there and I know I need not say more. Would I be able to drop a hose to the bottom of the Aurora's gas tank? I noticed you were working on a late '80s, early '90s Caddy DeVille and were you just using that car for demonstration purposes, or would you have to use that procedure on that car?
I tried this on my 2004 Ford Freestar. Pump kept cutting out after 3 seconds, just like it does when I turn the key under normal conditions. Any suggestions?
What if I dont care about the car from which im siphoning? Whats the easiest, safest, and quickest thing i can rip, pry, or cut out to get to the gas fast?
@65ford/sixtyfiveford Do all the cars have the fuel pressure test port in the form of schrader valve (removable stem) on the fuel rail? No residual gasoline pressure comes bursting out?
The majority of cars do. I know some GM cars don't though. However on those you can simple pull the line off the fuel rail and hook directly into that.
??? The initial fuel pump run you hear before starting your engine continues until the correct manifold pressure is reached in the fuel rails. Wouldn't the fuel rail never reach injection pressure in your configuration, and the pump continue to run without screwing around with the relay? Or does the ECM cut out the pump when it detects the pressure drop?
Few cars actually have a manifold pressure sensor, especially older ones. So the initial prime is solely timed. On a car that had manifold pressure sensing, I would think it would cut out after a few seconds as well, otherwise if there was a leak it would continue to pour gas(car crash)
The fuse has to be in for the power to go through. I think he was saying taking the fuse out will ensure u don't short circuit anything when putting the jumper wire in the relay connector. But the fuse needs to be placed back in so the power goes through everything, otherwise nothing will happen.
Great guide video but what year is the car? What years do you consider modern for cars? The one in vid looks kinda old. Thanks for your reply in advance
I was thinking about doing this on my car that iam giving to my son . It's a 1992 Chevy lumina. I replaced the gas filter and it had a bunch of rust and water that came out. So do i do the same with my car?
Thanks, I was about to go get a hand pump but then I was told there's a ball or flap at fuel tank that will prevent a siphon hose from going into tank. Mom's cars has been sitting for a couple years, now I need to get it running for a niece.
Is that port before or after the gas enters the engine? My sister put E85 in her Jeep accidentally, so I need to remove it before the fuel reaches the engine. Thanks, Sir.
The fuel rail is before the fuel enters the engine. Your gasoline powered Jeep will handle e85 on a random occasion without harm. Just drive it around and after 1/4-1/2 tank is gone, then top it off with the lowest octane regular gas you can.
Most pumps will still work a little even if they won't run the car. Banging on the tank can free up a stuck fuel pump as well. But if it doesn't, there really isn't anyway in except for dropping the tank or pulling the fuel filler neck at the tank after the check ball and siphoning from there.
Just tried this and it did not work. Got zero fuel to come out. In fact, it shorted out my ECU/ECM/PCM (whatever) and blew the fuse for it. Odometer blanked out and car won't start. What did I do wrong? I'm gonna replace the fuse, obviously and would like to try again but dont want to keep making the same mistake. Thanks for anyone that can help.
Great to see someone getting straight to the point. Brilliant method. 9 years later and still a useful video.
I have a car I am junking, but also had a full tank of gas I'd rather not waste. Found you video, and by golly this totally worked. Thanks for this! Saved a lot of time, money, and headache. Awesome car hack.
Aaron Mollenkopf Awesome... Can't throw away gasoline, it's the same as burning money.
eight years later, this is exactly the info i needed.
Especially with gas prices being so high 😭
I was always wondering about that valve if it was for other useful uses
For real lmao
9 for me 😅🎉🎉🎉🎉 hope you are well
Car sat for 5 years tried to siphon out the old school way and it wouldn’t pump anything out this is the info I needed thank you!
this was not a 1 for 1 in my situation but this idea did get me to learn about relays and how they work. I was able to use that to jump my relay and siphon out the gas. I thank you sir, you are a true fucking legend.
Good job most people don't 'show' close enough while explaining, thanks man.😊
I will be trying this tonight or this weekend. Being an Electrician, I think you should be able to ohm out your relay to identify which terminals you need to jumper. If you have a dead short between two terminals, that should be your coil. Once you identify your coil, the other two will be your "open" contacts that complete the circuit to your fuel puymp when the relay is energized.
😵💫 me acting like I know what you mean:
“😎 yep makes since bro exactly what I was thinkin 👌”
Totally beat me to it… soooo, something like th ZZZT❗️🤬. Think I’ll stick w the paper clip. At least til I decide to change professions.
Thanks for this- surprisingly not a topic addressed in the other 400 “siphon gas” vids. I had figured I was too stupid to even steal gas there til I changed the wording in my search!
Just connect terminal 87a to ground (I think its terminal 13). It may be 87 on some cars, but the two parallel ones are 87 and 87a (the ones that it will switch between).
@@RipRoaringGarage 87a = NC, the energized contact is 87 to suppy 12V to pump.
This method helps out alot I got rear-ended and my truck is totaled and didn't want to do it the old-school way thank you for making this video
I pumped 10 gallons out by just sitting there turning the key on and off for 15 min . My 05 Malibu had a different relay. But the fuel rail worked out great 👍🏻
Hello, u didnt at all do the relay stuff? Im not confident ill get that part right so i wanna make sure theres a way around that and still get the gas out
Worked like a charm. Drained a full tank on an SUV going to the junkyard. Thanks so much!
Awesome.
How long did it take?
Excellent video. Thank you. It told me probably everything I needed to do to get the gas out of a car that is being salvaged in a clear, complete and concise manner. Very good. 👍
Thank you sir this was extremely helpful. I knew it could be done, just wasn't sure how to go about it. Got a car I just filled up and the timing chain went out. Not gonna replace it, so the car's going to the scrap yard, and I didn't wanna give away 20 gallons of gas for scrap weight. Much appreciated
My friends are always asking me to siphon gas and do all these things with siphoning gas I told them to go on the internet and find it out for themselves now I'm going to send them to your link because I can't stand asking the stupidest things when I already know these things and they just won't listen to me in the first place thanks to you I'll never be honest to siphon or have to do this again they will listen to you they won't listen to me thank you I've tried explaining this to them a million times
This method worked perfectly on a 2002 Malibu. Jumped the fuel pump relay which is in the engine compartment fuse box, removed the fuel rail pressure release core hooked a hose onto it into a gas can turn the ignition to acc and was able to drain most of the gas out of a car with a spun engine bearing.
Awesome!
Totally worked! Thanks bud. 4 way wrench 1.99 autozone, paper clip to close the open circuit the relay closes and worked like a charm.
I find it easier and safer to pop the cover from the relay and close the contacts manually. This usually just requires a pocket screwdriver. It also ensures nothing gets shorted on the control side. This came in especially handy when I had to troubleshoot a no spark condition myself and needed to crank the engine from under the hood. Hope it helps.
Ryan Lane Yes, but a lot of relays are glued shut.
Your videos are outstanding, man. I'm about to finish a major engine overhaul on my '99 Grand Marquis and your videos have been a massive help. Everything from plastic welding, cleaning injectors, and draining the gas that sat in the tank for a year has been easier because you took the time to post a great video on it. Thank you so much @sixtyfiveford !
That is awesome!
Does this harm anything, if the tank contains 16 yr old gas?
Thanks Awesome.
But you say pull out the fuse then turn the key or leave the fuse in then turn the key on... So do I have to take out the fuse at all? Jump the relay. pull out fuse turn key, then put fuse back in and it will start to drain.
Ty
By the time I am reading your comment, it shows “6 months old”. Here’s my take on the confusion with the fuse:
If you want to have “local control” to start the pumping from under the hood, keep the fuse out until you are ready with the hose securely in the gas can/“gerry jug” and then plug in the fuse.
If you want to do it from inside the vehicle (I don’t recommend this for safety’s sake!) then leave the fuse in but have the gas can visible near you when turning the key so you can monitor the filling. This scenario really makes me nervous. At gas stations, we aren’t supposed to reenter our vehicles during fueling operations or we can puck up a static charge that can spark when we return to the grounded fuel nozzle. Still, if a fire breaks out inside the highly flammable interior while siphoning gas, there’s nowhere to run. From under the hood you have a chance to escape! With that said, if weather allows, do it outside and away from any buildings in case of fire.
Hint: Have a good, tested “ABC” fire extinguisher accessible and ready within seconds from the vehicle, just in case!
Thank you sixtyfiveford I was able to retrieve my fuel from my totaled car !
Awesome.
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Stale gas in my stored Chevy s-10 had to be re-freshed and this did the trick. Brilliant hack!
+David Taylor Awesome..
Awesome! Due to hurricane Ian I'm stuck and low on fuel for generator. This helped a me out big time! Thank you!
I just tried out your advice on draining the fuel tank and it worked like a charm. I did it for a 2003 ford explorer and the fuel relay is # 48 in the engine compartment. I put a jumper between pins 3 and 5 and once you do this the pump start pumping gas. pins 3 and 5 are the large pins on the relay. Thank you very much for your advice.
Did you have to pull the other fuse like he shows and turn the key on???
I'm about to do this to an 03 escape tomorrow that's kinda funny
I needed to change my fuel filter and also drain some gas from the tank. So once I disconnected the fuel line at the filter, I used your method to run the fuel pump to get the gas.
This was genius. Drained my 2000 Ford Taurus this way. I might have burned out the fuel pump but worked like a charm.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked it.
I had no idea this could be done. I had to get a fuel pump changed out a while back and they said they could not save the gas as they did not have gas cans around, I bet they went and got some when I left. This is an interesting way to empty the fuel tank without sucking on a hose and getting gas in the mouth like back in the day. hahahahaha Thanks for sharing this with us.
Superiorpowerwash Yeah, I can't imagine anyone just getting rid of gas.
I can agree from seeing it 1st hand mechanics would keep "good" tyres that had a lil life left in and fuel that had been siphoned from a car that put wrong fuel in i happens more than you realize
well done, got a dead 4runner with a full tank to deal with,
mustie1 Liquid Gold.
@@sixtyfiveford Liquid PLATINUM at today's prices!!
I am surprised you did not WARN of the pressure that could be at the test valve? Unscrewing the valve without relieving the pressure first is a good way to take a gas bath. If you pull the fuse or relay and crank the engine over should lower the pressure, and then take a rag and cover any object (a screw-driver works good) and press in the schrader valve should relieve any more built up pressure in the line.
Ben Bat Yeah, good point. I guess when you know what you're doing it's just normal to know there's a little pressure built up. I'll leave a note on the video.
sixtyfiveford I could see some people thinking if the key is off then there would be no pressure. That's how it looks like in your video. Gas in the eyes sucks!! Been there. I pulled a fuel rail that sat for over a year. I thought the pressure would have bleed off. I was wrong.
Thank you very much for this; getting rid of a car soon that has half a tank of gas that's only a week or two old.
thanks for the video. I was wondering what size hose do you need and second do you need to do anything else besides putting the valve back on?
Thank you for this method. Second owner of a '97 Taurus SHO 22 years now!, and been in quiet storage at my home of 16 years. So, yes, about 1/3 tank of 93 octane = old fuel still in the tank. I have been seeking advice on just how to go about removing the fuel before putting it on the road for the car show season. From fuel filter removal to syphoning (which can't be done due to a heavy screen in the filler neck.), to hot wiring the fuel pump at the inertia switch in the trunk!
But, today, after watching YOUR presentation, I went out in the garage and found the schrader valve off the fuel rail right on top of the engine! Right near by was the enclosure with the large fuses and relays. I believe I am going to try this!
Can you tell me the ID of the hose you used? Thanks again so much for the push to get me going on something I have put off for years ! (O:
SHO that's awesome. That's going to be a fun car! I used 1/4id fuel line.
@@sixtyfiveford Thanks '65, I will come back to let you know how it turned out. Thanks for the into on the fuel line ID. I will order it up along with the Schrader tool. Stay tuned ((O:
Great tip but what if you want to drain the gas in order to change a bad fuel pump located in the fuel tank . ?
Generally you can temporarily revive a dead fuel pump by banging on the bottom of the tank directly below the pump. The jostling frees it up.
Damn, finally found video showing which terminals I jump but was trying to figure out where to connect hose......remove the little valve omg replaced those on tires smh thank you I was having a brain fart now gotta find me a hose
I took out the Shader valve but there wasn't enough pressure to keep the engine running so I took another valve and busted the back end off and screwed it in place after taking all the internal part out. I attached a hose and started the engine and pumped all the gas into a can. I was surprised how much fuel came through the hose but still provided enough fuel to keep the engine running.
Dont work on 2005 volvo s40.Even if you close contacts of fuel relay manually.It just blew fuse.And all functions normally :car starts,drive around.Maybe something to do with fuel controle module.PEM if i recall correctly.
All that i can figure out is to remove fuel pump and figure out which wires powers pump.Then connect with my own wires to battery after unplugging it from system and removed shrader valve to avoid overpressure on fuel line
Good video once again, but a good alternative (sometimes) is to find the fuel pump itself and just connect a 12v battery straight onto the pump, having first connected a hose to the fuel line. Saves all that messin' with the relays and stuff! Thanks 65 :-)
Bob Bailey Relays are intimidating and misunderstood. This particular car can only have access to the pump by dropping the tank.
sixtyfiveford
There you go, some subject matter for another video....Relay's. A practical demonstration showing that they are just switches that can switch a heavy load using only a light current. How, when and why they are used, how to test and trouble shoot etc. Just a thought! :-)
I do have a year or two video on them. ruclips.net/video/uerxvIBODOE/видео.html
Still might need to drop the tank...just to replace the straps and hardware...Gas in there is from 2014. Will not even TRY to start on that stuff lol. I will have to prime the rails though, to get that crap out of the fuel lines lol.
Finally getting to starting my baby after my wreck. Almost ten years...and both of us got messed up and totalled, but, its time. Im back to working out, and got my old steed started and running (on ether at least) and ready to start replacing and restoring!
Good to know. Pity there is no way to easily get past those check valves through the filler port. Thanks for sharing.
MRrwmac Yeah, I pulled a tank a few years ago and by seeing it, realized that it is impossible to get a hose around that check ball.
Great idea, modern Ford trucks don't have this valve unfortunately. Can probably just remove the fuel line and put a hose on it though.
Thanks for answering a few of My questions
I had just topped off My tank the night before My Truck got totaled when a 19 year old girl turned left in front of Me
Need to get that $50 plus fuel out before the wrecker hauls Her off
Thanks
That always sucks.
I love this guy! Man after my own heart
I might need this soon, I have a full tank that's getting old with no particular place to go but I can use some for my lawn equipment.
Well if you by mistake fill diesel in your petrol car , its a great way to remove the fuel before driving and damaging any components
Naser Younus Yeah, that's a great application for this.
Naser Younus GOTTA DO THAT TODAY
Yes sir, great video, very helpful in times of need.
Thanks.
This is brilliant!
Let's say the fuel pump is shot, what about an external pump to suck the fuel from the fuel port?
There would be resistance from the non working fuel pump in the tank though.
Most of the time you can just whack the bottom of the gas tank where the fuel pump is and it will come back to life temporarily. I'm pretty sure there will be resistance if your trying to suck through this port.
I got a syphon hose into the gas tank by cutting the end of the hose on an angle, kind of pointed, and got the hose in over a lip by pushing and spinning the hose as I fed it in. I posted a video on my channel. Jeep Cherokee XJ.
Hey quick question! I have a 2008 Ford e350 van with two year old gas in it. Should I drain the fuel out of the system or just ad fresh gas and some water reduce product and start it up? Thanks for your videos! Love it!
How do you do this if your fuel pump is bad? Then it can't push fuel to the rail, right?
Neighbor just sent one of those fwd Caddys to the junkyard last week.
Sat in the yard for something like 20 years. I think I put it on IG. Shame, it was a solid car.
hi, so after jumping the relay, do i really need to remove the fuse and keep it off or it doesnt matter?...(this is before turning on the ignition to ON)... coz in your video you removed the fuse when you already have the "jumper" in the relay and then placed it back.... confusing if there is a reason why this was done... thanks
+Aldwin Cabangon The fuse is used just as a means to shut it on and off as most of the time it is located under the hood where you are working. Or like I mention in the video, just use the key.
Thank you, i have done the job and it went well, i kinda drained tje battery rwmoving the full thank of gas though, lol. But was able to recharge it and all went well
This just solved my problem. Thank you for this!
Awesome, I'm glad it was helpful.
How would one drain their tank when the fuel pump doesn't work and the filler neck has a mesh to prevent using a siphon hose?
Whack the bottom of the tank where the fuel pump sits. This will generally bring a dead fuel pump back to life momentarily.
Your videos have always been full of great information. Keep up the good work.
Julio Burgos Thanks for watching.
Super vid and your rite it's not easy to get gas out of a newer car these day's. I did my sisters pt last week with a full tank just to scrape the trash build up off the sending unit it was no fun.
scottsinfl Did that one have a check ball or flapper valve?
sixtyfiveford Yes it did and the hose connected half way down on the tank. I was able to take the hose of and push the valve in and lower the tank on one side and drain 3/4's out. What a pain. And a mess. It would have been way easier to do it your way. It had a test port on the fuel rail too.
Thank you for the info your video is very helpful and to the point and very detailed appreciate it very much have a good day
I'm confused why do you have to pull out the fuse pump fuse?
And to make sure you're doubly confused, he then says dat u can leave it in.... Totally ruined the video. Wot the hell?????
I just happened to be trying to pump fuel from a 2013 Equinox that has a pretty full tank because this car is just sitting for now. Disconnected the supply line before the schrader valve and connected some hose going into a container. I jumped the run crank relay but fuel pump will not stay on. Seems like a prime cycle or something. Is there an easy way to make the fuel pump run continuously? I mean, aside from crawling underneath and jumping 12v to the pump connector.
@@chad4132 The entire video is exactly the issue I'm telling you how to resolve.
@@sixtyfiveford First off Thank you for your reply. No. It's not. The vehicle in this video appears to predate cambus module systems in cars. 2013 Chevy equinox I'm working on I now know has a fuel pump control module in the trunk. There is not a relay for JUST the fuel pump. Also there are 2 fuel pumps. Low pressure in the tank. High pressure pump on the side of the engine. There are 2 fuel line disconnects, one on either side of a schrader valve before the High pressure pump. There is a relay labeled "Run/Crank". I believe this only sends signal to the fuel pump module and engine module and so jumping this relay WILL NOT run the low pressure pump continuously. My guess is in order to turn the pump on and have it stay on one would have to find the wires from the module that power the pump and jump them there. OR disconnect the pump wires at the tank and jump 12v directly to the pump. There might also be a way to manually turn the pump on with a dealer level scan tool. Your video does not cover exactly these issues. AT ALL. It's also possible to have to jump 5v at the module to send signal to turn the pump on. IDK. I've only been looking into this since late last night. I was looking for and easy solution. There probably is. However, I do not understand enough about 2013 GM EcoTec fuel systems to Know how to turn on the low pressure pump continuously. And I do not think you do either based on the unhelpful and useless to me reply you left.
@@chad4132 The entire point of a relay is to pass the final high current to whatever device you're running; fuel pump in this scenario. The computer will send a low amperage signal to the relay to turn on or off the fuel pump.
Thanks man. Been looking for a way to get my fuel out of cars I dismantle without accessing and powering the pump directly.
So, I'm correct in assuming this won't work for me due to the fact that I'm trying to a replace a burnt out fuel pump? Lucky me, the tank is full...
I'm in the same predicament. How did you eventually get the fuel out?
Y did u turn the relay over to that particular orientation before u started drawing the diagram of its pins on the notebook? Not got any car electrics background.
If the jumper is connected to wrong contact any chance to blow out any electronics? I have a van with 18 gal of fuel that blew a head. The fuel is now stale but I will try it. Real sharp tip thanks for sharing.
JOE Z The fuse will blow and should protect the entire circuit.
Just put an air line to your fill nozzel and pressurize your gas tank and the gas eill flow out the fuel rail.
If old gas can be bad for your engine can it gunk up your fuel pump ?
I've never seen it gunk up a fuel pump. It could clog fuel injectors though.
I don't understand the significance of fiddling with the fuse. From what I could tell, it had nothing to do with this procedure. What did I miss?
I thin He was talking about turning the ignition on, then using the fuse to turn the fuel pump on and off.
Spark + gas = bad
Pump would prime then shut off otherwise
What happens if u cross the wrong points in that relay spot. Will it damage the vehicle
good sir. thank you so much for posting this. worked flawlessly for me on my 03 blazer! nice job.
Awesome.
How do you determine which relay box belongs to the fuel pump? I have three to choose from with the exact same pin layout you described (the other relays have only 4 pins). The Owners Manual identifies the fuse, but not the relay. Can this somehow be isolated with a multimeter? My beloved 2006 Volvo XC90 with 230K miles suffered its last final fatal breakdown (in an economic sense) in the driveway, just as I arrived home from the gas station with a full tank.
The fuel pump usu runs for 20 sec or so when the key is turned on. Try removing one relay at a time to isolate the fuel relay.
With the key in 'run' drawing that* much current from the battery how long until baddery jrains? About 70-80 min for regular head and parking litez to use up a 500 cca baddey
Sweet fix to a problem. Another use case would be needing gas for a generator when the power goes out and your gas cans are empty
There is no link to the Tired Shocks and PVC support piece that you mentioned at the end of this video...
I can't find that video... What is the title of it ???
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That is a great way to extract gas. I just need to find the opening for fuel pressure measurement. Also not sure, so do you need to disconnect the Fuel Pump fuse, or leave it in? Thank you for the informative film.
You leave the fuel pump fuse in.
What years would be considered modern? I have a 1993 Honda Civic del Sol S. Is that modern enough that all this has to be done?
Modern equals anything fuel injected.
Thanks! This video save my truck! Your awesome!!
biggmixx2906 Awesome.
very good, but how much pressure should we expect from the pump, i had thought it could be hundreds of psi.
Most are between 25-50 psi.
Ben Bat Ben is dead on.
I just bypass the whole relay part. i have a external universal pump with two jumper cable clips i think i paid 20 bucks for the pump and had one of those HFT battery maintainers and stole the alligator clips off that its good for vehicle pumps that dont work. But thats a great idea if you dont have a extra pump great vid .
An auxiliary pump is easier.
So this would NOT work if you are draining the fuel tank if the fuel pump is NOT working (the reason for draining the tank) ?
Generally a failing fuel pump can be brought back to life by banging on it.
Thanks for the help. I have a 1995 Oldsmobile Aurora and it took on a lot of water because the filler neck actually rusted through. The design of the filler door allows water to cascade on the top of the filler neck. Add to that there was dirt sticking on the top of the filler neck which held moisture there and I know I need not say more. Would I be able to drop a hose to the bottom of the Aurora's gas tank? I noticed you were working on a late '80s, early '90s Caddy DeVille and were you just using that car for demonstration purposes, or would you have to use that procedure on that car?
I tried this on my 2004 Ford Freestar. Pump kept cutting out after 3 seconds, just like it does when I turn the key under normal conditions. Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot for your videos. You explain yourself clearly easy to follow.
Bruce
Bruce Pender Thanks Bruce.
What if I dont care about the car from which im siphoning? Whats the easiest, safest, and quickest thing i can rip, pry, or cut out to get to the gas fast?
@65ford/sixtyfiveford
Do all the cars have the fuel pressure test port in the form of schrader valve (removable stem) on the fuel rail? No residual gasoline pressure comes bursting out?
The majority of cars do. I know some GM cars don't though. However on those you can simple pull the line off the fuel rail and hook directly into that.
I didnt have a battery or key. I used a jump box. Hooked the ground to the frame and the hot to the fuel pump wire.
Awesome.
Exactly what I needed. Thank you.
??? The initial fuel pump run you hear before starting your engine continues until the correct manifold pressure is reached in the fuel rails. Wouldn't the fuel rail never reach injection pressure in your configuration, and the pump continue to run without screwing around with the relay? Or does the ECM cut out the pump when it detects the pressure drop?
Few cars actually have a manifold pressure sensor, especially older ones. So the initial prime is solely timed. On a car that had manifold pressure sensing, I would think it would cut out after a few seconds as well, otherwise if there was a leak it would continue to pour gas(car crash)
sixtyfiveford That would be what the fuel pump cut off switch does (car crash). Though I suspect the ECM would time it out as you suggest.
So do you leave out the 15amp Fuse and then turn on the key to start pumping??
The fuse has to be in for the power to go through. I think he was saying taking the fuse out will ensure u don't short circuit anything when putting the jumper wire in the relay connector. But the fuse needs to be placed back in so the power goes through everything, otherwise nothing will happen.
Thank you sir. Your video was very helpful!!
I have water in my tank(ex) can I use this method to drain my tank without ruining the fuel filter
Great guide video but what year is the car? What years do you consider modern for cars? The one in vid looks kinda old. Thanks for your reply in advance
It's a 2019 Cadillac.
@@sixtyfiveford Did you mean 1989 cadillac? I recognize the interior. Looks like the car my gramps had before he passed.
Best way I've seen yet, thumbs up!
Thanks.
So all the 'dirty' old, bad fuel gets through the pipes filters and pump ?!
It's already in the lines, filters and pump.
Bro.....u saved my life......
I was thinking about doing this on my car that iam giving to my son . It's a 1992 Chevy lumina. I replaced the gas filter and it had a bunch of rust and water that came out. So do i do the same with my car?
You could do the identical thing to drain the tank.
Can I check underneath my truck holds the gas
Thanks, I was about to go get a hand pump but then I was told there's a ball or flap at fuel tank that will prevent a siphon hose from going into tank.
Mom's cars has been sitting for a couple years, now I need to get it running for a niece.
WHAT do you do if the pump is dead ?
Will this work on a 1996 Chevy express 1500 with spider injection 5.7l v8?
What about high pressure fuel pumps
Can you hand pump it rather than messing with the relay?
It won't hand pump through the fuel pump.
Is that port before or after the gas enters the engine? My sister put E85 in her Jeep accidentally, so I need to remove it before the fuel reaches the engine. Thanks, Sir.
The fuel rail is before the fuel enters the engine. Your gasoline powered Jeep will handle e85 on a random occasion without harm. Just drive it around and after 1/4-1/2 tank is gone, then top it off with the lowest octane regular gas you can.
But is worthless if the pump is gone out, so if you actually have a bad pump what's the process of siphoning gas through the fuel rail port?
Most pumps will still work a little even if they won't run the car. Banging on the tank can free up a stuck fuel pump as well. But if it doesn't, there really isn't anyway in except for dropping the tank or pulling the fuel filler neck at the tank after the check ball and siphoning from there.
Just tried this and it did not work. Got zero fuel to come out. In fact, it shorted out my ECU/ECM/PCM (whatever) and blew the fuse for it. Odometer blanked out and car won't start. What did I do wrong? I'm gonna replace the fuse, obviously and would like to try again but dont want to keep making the same mistake. Thanks for anyone that can help.