Just picked up saw and stand combo as a combo purchase and just put it together today in prep for some trim work on a house we are remodeling. I checked with Home Depot and they assured me these were the new models and did not have the issues with blade wobble the R4221 models had. First cut seemed ok, but upon longer cuts, found the motor would bog ever so slightly and at the same time could feel vibration pick up. Did a few more cuts on various wood and experience the same issue. Also noticed whenever the “vibration” could be felt, the wood would “splinter” or “chip” at the cut line. Took back to the store and swapped for another. I really want this saw to work as it is the best value for the money over dewalt, Hercules, and others in this price range. That being said, if it can’t cut a smooth line, it isn’t much of a value at all. Planning to try to test the replacement out tomorrow and will post an update then.
Yes please definitely come back and update if you can!! Hoping your new one cuts true and clean for you! Such a bummer about these saws seriously... I wanted mine to work so bad!!! Thank you so much for sharing your experience, and for watching! 🙏🏻💪🏻
Sadly the replacement did the same thing. I have contacted support via email and done some research. I tried a different Blade with same results. Going to stop by and get a Diablo blade as a last resort. Also read that sanding the outside locking piece that holds the blade using high grit sandpaper on a flat surface may resolve the issue. My wife is insisting that since it has a lifetime warranty to give it a chance. I think it may work sufficiently for what I immediately need it for. Since I used a HD cc to purchase (buy stuff this way for the 365 day return policy), going to give it the chance. Will continue to update as I try different things and work with support (assuming they don’t just tell me to stuff it and just return it repeatedly).
Update #2 - After contacting support again, I was advised that the issue has not been reported for any of the R4222 saws so supposedly I would be one of the first. I was advised to purchase a high quality blade as the wobble is more noticeable on bevel cuts they feel the blade may be the culprit. Keep in mind I tried the ridgid blade that is was shipped with and an a avantipro blade. In the next few days I will get a Diablo blade and go from there. I’d they does not fix it I was advised to take it to a repair center and see if they can look at it while I am there to see what they would recommend. I had them check my sons saw which does the same and the SN on it shows it was manufacturers after the issues was fixed. So it seems to the R4221 and 4222 use the same “fixed” arbor setup. I was not told that, but I am deducing it based on experience. More updates to come once I switch blades (again).
@@brianshackelford5564 Thanks so much for the continued updates!! I'm going to Pin your original comment so hopefully people can read this thread. So extremely helpful man, truly! I tried filing down locking ring on mine as well, to make sure there were no burrs or imperfections. I ended up with the Dewalt I have now, and it's pefectly smooth right out of the box. I also have an Evolution R255 Miter Saw which is also 100% smooth & true out of the box. I hope Ridgid appreciates customers like yourself who are willing to go through so much for their brand!! I really wanted to love my Ridgid Saw.. but after 2 of them I saw a rough future ahead. Looking forward to hearing how the Diablo blade performs, I'll be very surprised if eliminates the issue all together. Thank you again for the continued updates!!!!
I figured I would write the sad, but apparently foreseen end to this tragedy. I went and purchased a Hercules 12" Sliding Dual Bevel Mitre saw from Harbor freight after reading and watching a LOT of reviews giving it very favorable ratings. Not wanting it to actually be better than a saw that is priced $200.00 more, I brought out the Ridgid, put the AvantiPro 80 tooth blade on it (OK its no Diablo, but it is supposed to be a decent blade) and made some more test cuts. The wobble seemed a little less with no load, but as soon as I started cutting I can hear the motor noise change and actual can feel the vibration in both the handle and the piece of wood I was cutting. Several iterations of this just to be sure. So I broke down and opened the Hercules saw, set it up in about 5 minutes. First cut was AMAZING. Smooth as silk in the motor, never dropped power, no variation in the sound and it cut through the same wood like butter. Now, to be fair it may be that the hercules saw comes with a primo blade, but still, even with no load on it (not cutting) it sounded nothing like the Ridgid. Made same cuts with no issues. Did a series of comparison cuts and ended with splintering every time on the Ridgid no matter how slow I went. Same cuts with the Hercules on the same piece of wood - no splintering. Did miter and bevel cuts and again on the Ridgid could feel vibration and can actually seem the blade marks well defined (can actually feel them on one piece) vs the Hercules they were not visible. It is a shame. I bought the Ridgid as a combo, love the stand, love all the features of the saw, but the main function just doesn't cut it - quite literally. I will be returning it as soon as I can get it in the back of my truck and drive the hour back to Home Depot. Thanks for the advice and the support. Ridgid - if you ever actually read this - start listening to your customers! You have a saw priced in the same range as the leading saws in this range, but you are simply not up to par on the quality in this case. Honestly, I again go back to suspecting it is something with the brake system - but hey - what do I know? Just FYI - The saw from HF with 3 year replacement warranty (take it back and drop it on their counter and walk out with a new one or a refund) was around $400.00 including tax. Highly recommend if your budget doesn't quite allow for the Dewalt equivalent. Make sure to find a coupon before buying - don't pay full price. I hope this helps someone else out and I wish I had listened to all the reviews....
Follow up on my Rigid purchase and note to you from 1/24/21, after buying new Diablo Blade hoping the blade was the problem and returning Saw to Home Depot. Had considered the Metabo but not impressed upon closer look. Decided to get the Dewalt, not the "Special Buy" which is a lighter version. Went to the Depot, talked to the salesperson he gave me $50.00 off for the nonsense and took it to the shop, put it through the paces for 2 hours. This is an excellent saw, true and square and well built. I have been a carpenter for 40 years and it takes something to turn my head. Thought you might like to know. The associate that gave me the 50.00 off said this saw has had problems for the last year at least, he did not know why they continue to sell them. Some work fine but many are coming back. Thanks for the info on you channel.
Glad to hear it sounds like you got squared away well!!! I hope they've got a working inventory of saws now that avoids headaches unnecessarily for people. Thanks for the comment!
Really glad I stumbled on this post as I was about to purchase this saw even though it's regularly priced at $597 Can. without stand! I knocked my 12 in. Dewalt over while tidying up the garage and parts are no longer available. Thanks to your upload I will continue shopping around.
I had one for years and recently upgraded to a new one. Love.my saw. No wobble. Works great. Must've been a load that was damaged or motor not secured tight enough. All in all I've had zero wobble and zero issues. Don't avoid based on a review, try and return I'd not happy. You have 90 days.
Just purchased the same saw, R4222, and was setting it up and found the same problem as you, I knew that something wasn't right so doing some looking in the manual, and on page 17, fig 14 in both of the images it show a ring that goes in the centre hole of the saw blade. So I called Ridgid and had them send me one as one wasn't with the saw the I took it out of the box. While watching you video I tried to pay close attention when you remove the left hand bolt that holds the saw blade in place and when you remove it there was no ring, and that where it should be when shipped, between the outer and inter washers as per the manual. The ring is there because the hole in the saw is a 1 inch hole and the arbor is 5/8 of an inch, I did measure them. As a final note I knew when I seen the image of the ring what it was for as my old miter saw had one. As of today I have yet to receive the ring so the issue isn't solved 100% but I am confident that should fix it.
You did a wonderful job showing and describing everything so I didn’t have to find multiple other videos to figure out the whole picture or even have to rewind your video more than once and I think I’m ready to go forth and chop shit up man! Missing my fingers and hitting my miters . You are celebrated as we speak! 🎉 thanks a lot!
I just bought this saw May 2023 no wobble at all perfect cuts had a job needed to cut 5-1/4 crown cut perfect inside and outside meters, I bought crown stops waiting for those to come should be pretty sweet set up.
I just purchased the same model a few days ago and I have not had any problems with it at all. Only issue I had was the sliding mechanism to lock in place of the bevels, but seeing you explain that now helped me understand it I pretty much went through the whole saw and I have no complaints. Unfortunately you got stiffed,
I just bought the same saw so still learning. The hex key is as you later discovered is supplied and the manual did indeed state the location, albeit not too visual. On the dust issue it is a common problem; not just with Ridgid. Simply put NO DUST bag is worth a hoot. You cannot PUSH dust into a bag. You must PULL it. Therefore you need an input duct/port that is large enough in area to allow air flow great enough to suck the air volume required. So the basic problem with a shop vac. connection is the mouth area of the exhaust input port; probably limited by rear area space. Now on subject of blade wobble. This also is a core problem with any device with such a blade. It exists with a hand saw 7 inch blade or a saw with a 10 inch blade. In both cases it is less noticeable. Now with a 12 inch blade it more noticeable because of the larger mass spinning larger diameter thicker blades (wider kerf). There are 'stiffener kits' available for some products which claim to counter this issue but they introduce bigger issues of blade diameter reduction or even mounting problems. Its not easily fixable. This is basic aerodynamics matter. You may have already experienced this if you have flown at 35000 feet plus. The aircraft shakes because the wings are shaking (just like the saw blade) as it passes at high speed through the air. Maybe you are a bit too harsh on the manufacturer. The wobble is a bit of a moot point. Does I cut OK? I find it to be a good product when I cut probably the most demanding precision... compound miter crown molding joints. The product was designed for construction/outside work so dust is not an issue. (I should say I have NO relationship with anyone associated with manufacturing or distribution.) Just a common old retired woodworker.
Thanks for the long comment - lots of info. I will say the vibration and wobble I felt is a known defect with this saw. My dewalt miter, the one I ended up buying, is like a hot knife through butter in comparison. Zero extra vibration and zero blade wobble. The amount of wobble I had was allowing the blade to skip across the cutting surface which is not good for any type of cuts or for the sake of safety. I also have another miter saw by Evolution (and videos up on both the Dewalt and the Evolution as well) and it also has zero wobble or weird vibration. That’s my two cents on the whole thing. I bought two saws from Ridgid and both were the same horrible situation. Both got returned. Thanks again for sharing your thought! 👍🏻
I called Rigid about a year ago. I found out that they updated the gears and arbor assembly to get rid of the blade wobble after serial number 1751 (one seven five one). She said they recently updated this information. You're welcome. I returned one to HD and got a newer serial number (after 1751) and it's perfectly fine. A great saw!
Nice man!! Thanks so much for sharing!! Hopefully people will see this serial number and know which one to buy!! I’ll see if I can Pin your comment to the top of the thread!! You rock and thanks for the support and comment!! 💪🏻🙏🏻🛠
@@TheToughGuysTV You're very welcome. I picked up my first one and was super pissed, so I researched a bunch. I read that the newer ones were updated, but didn't want to roll the dice with another one at HD until I was sure. I called and the lady was super helpful and knew exactly what I was asking. The downside is that you have to explain to the idiots at HD why you need to open the box (I was unable to find a serial number on the outside of the box). It was a pain in the ass because it's heavy and I had my daughter with me, who was squirming around in the cart. lol.
Man it’s a crazy process for sure and should definitely be easier!! I always have my kids with me at the store so I feel you there!!! 😂 I am so glad you shared a success story and I did pin your comment so others can see it!!! So awesome!
@@narlycharley hi, I just purchased this today I haven't taken it out of the box yet. But where can I find the serial number before I assemble it to see which one I have. Thanks in advance
Jesse k I think he just has a saw that works and shared the info. The whole situation is a nightmare for anyone stuck with once of these saws. The serial numbers he provide if based on date would be older than mine not the other way around, so I’m not sure.
Thanks for your video! I bought the R4222 yesterday (7/9/2022). As I was unboxing it, I found oil droplets spattered across the tool, parts and packaging. It made a slippery business of trying to free the tool from its Styrofoam home! Once on the table I went about cleaning and getting to know my new saw. The oil droplets came up easily, until they didn't... I found dark stains, almost like blobs of oil burnt into the Extension Table, that I couldn't remove. It only got worse from there. Areas at the back of the saw were corroded in a white mushroom fasion like what you'd find on an old battery. The top of one screw was covered in rust while it's neighbor screw was covered in black gunk. And finally, there they were... small crevasses caked with sawdust. "CRAP! Some knucklehead bought this thing, used it once and left it convalescing in a dark, damp corner where batteries go to die and then returned it to the store." At this point I could care less about a Lifetime Warranty. How about a Stupid People Warranty that includes dispatching an intelligent human armed with understanding and compassion arrives at your doorstep instantly and replaces the defective saw with one free of imperfection? No buts. No excuses. Here's the thing, though. When I opened the box, I first had to cut the surrounding plastic straps. In fact, ALL of the plastic straps, from the outside of the box to the contents, were present and intact, just like your video demonstrated. The tape on the box appeared to be original as well. The only unusual bit of packing was broken Styrofoam - the top piece and a couple of interior pieces. I was just going to take it back to Home Depot and exchange it. Now I'm wondering if I should test it for wobble first?
I bought a 12” Rigid sliding compound miter saw with a stand about ten years ago. It’s been a reliable tool, one of my favorites. (Mine looks much more sturdy and beefy than that one - back when things were made well.) My allen wrench has it’s own groove in back of the saw where it clicks in tightly, conveniently, and efficiently. Mine also came with a dust bag - it’s rectangular and fits across the sliding rails.
Doing some quick look at this model. I just bought it today 14aug2021. Thanks now that I got a video to compare it with. Hopefully this newer serial number have better luck. Subbed.
Thanks so much for the support! I hope you got a good saw and that Ridgid has made some changes, I truly was excited to have that saw at the start.. was such a bummer! Thanks again and hope you enjoy some other videos as well!
Any update on your satisfaction? I've been eyeing one but haven't pulled the trigger. I've been hoping they have it fixed by now (if it can be fixed without a redesign).
@@BurnAfter8 truthfully, i have only used it for one project. My comment won't be as good as most daily users...It worked splendid, I did not notice any wobble. I haven't had a chance to cut thicker wood. Let's just say 2x2 with sliding, i had zero issues. My main complaint was mentioned probably by others was the dustbag doesn't do it's job, very narrow. I instead use a vacuum, still makes a mess but I can live with and clean it myself without frustration. Dust latching to the sliding assembly doesn't cause any issues either. You don't have to read this, I couldn't wait so I bought the miter saw and stand for $580ish? But I returned them. And got the miter saw and i think pneumatic stapler bundle. At the same time the miter stand went from $200 to $120, thats when I jumped on that stand, so convenient but i don't recommend paying for more than $130. Lowest was $100, but i don't think it will ever go that low again. Unless you stumble on directtoolsoutlet.com when they have Ridgid "Factory Blemish" sales since they are also lifetime warranty as long you register and chat with Ridgid to complete the process. I jumped on the Ridgid Wagon. My starter brand is black and decker, but that ridgid lifetime warranty, deals, and HD military discount got me.
I wish I would have seen this video yesterday. I bought one yesterday and brought it home and was searching videos on this saw, set up, tricks tips, etc... and came across this video. Home Depot is 2 hours away, so I think I'll set it up before deciding whether to take it back or not.
I bought the newest version about 2 weeks ago. My brother bought one last year..and I liked his so much I bought one too. Zero wobble and am very happy with it. I've had a dewalt before this .. my only complaints is they added a safety switch next to the trigger. And yes dust collection could be better.
Any update on your satisfaction? I've been eyeing one but haven't pulled the trigger. I've been hoping they have it fixed by now (if it can be fixed without a redesign).
I just bought one today. Same thing with me as far as Dewalt. I’ve had my Dewalt miter saw since 2006 but it’s only a 10 inch and now it seems everyone and their brother want real tall crown and base. I’ve been able to get by with my 10” by laying the base flat and doing a compound cut but it’s a real pain in the ass doing it that way. I’ve only unboxed the new Ridgid so I don’t know yet how it cuts. I registered it with Ridgid tonight. One of the reasons I chose this saw is because of the lifetime warranty on parts and service. I’ve read in several places that the blade wobble thing has been taken care of so hopefully it’s not an issue.
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove bahhhh I ended up taking it back to Home Depot because the saw was so big and heavy. It’s a nice saw tho. But seriously it’s too big to transport from job to job. It’s very long and very heavy. I hated to give it up because it seemed like it would do everything. I think it would be a great saw for a shop environment where you didn’t need to transport it all the time. I took it back and got the Dewalt DWS716XPS. This Dewalt doesn’t slide but it’s dual a bevel 12” miter saw with the light to shadow on the blade for easy cutting. It was 50 dollars more than the Ridgid. I’m happy with the Dewalt even tho it doesn’t slide. The other route I would consider is checking out the Hercules 12” sliding miter saw from harbor freight. It’s almost a clone of Dewalts 600 dollar 12” sliding miter saw. So Dewalt makes two 12” sliders, one is 300 and something and the other is 600. The Hercules is a clone of dewalts 600 dollar saw. Same weight and specs. Dewalts 300 dollar saw looks like their better saw but it’s not the same and it’s a lot heavier. If Weight isn’t an issue you would be okay to get any of these saws tho. The sliding mechanism on the Dewalt seems smoother than the Ridgid tho. Anyway I hope this didn’t make things more confusing. I am very happy tho with the Dewalt saw I ended up with.
If anything your video encouraged me to buy one. Good video & I’m sorry you were disappointed. The issues you mention are not much of a concern to me. The blade wobble is most certainly the blade. You can even see it flex in your video when you pulled it loose from the tape. This thing is a beast!! With 12” blade, 15 amp motor & 3,850 RPM! Look at the huge teeth on that blade! If this thing is not making a mess well Houston we have a problem! Yes lots of dust. I would be disappointed otherwise. If the dust collector picks up the annoying fine dust that is in the air and lands on everything that’s fine with me. I’ll pick up the heavy dust. Also I would never use this in my finished house. My advice to you is to maybe pickup something that’s smaller, less powerful, & not such a cutting animal. Thanks for the video & your time.
I don’t know where my original comment was where you also said you bought the DWS779, but, I just picked one up tonight! Home Depot sale on the DWS779 for $349, seems like a steal so I grabbed one! Now I just have to wait for my new (and first) house to be finished in 4 more weeks! Then I can start sawing things!
My experience goes beyond yours. Bought mine back in 2016. The blade wobble was acceptable once I rotated the flange by 180. I guess it cancelled out the wobbling somewhat. I had no vibration at all. I used mine mainly to cut 2x4s or smaller stock; redid the base boards on house. Funny enough, in 3+ years I never had the need to use the sliders for any project that required any precision. A couple of months ago, I decided to build some drawers that were about 12" tall, so I decided to use the 4221 to make the cuts. To my surprise, the sliding mechanism was about 1/8" off from the fence to its full extend; in about 14" inches of travel, the deviation was 1/8". No way to correct it. I appears that the casting was bad and some people had reported the issue on some Ridgid forum. I spoke with Ridgid about it, and they suggested I sent it in for repair through my local Home Depot. After a few calls with the repair center to explain the issue, they offered to replace it with a refurbished 2018. Got the saw, an 1831 serial and although it is more precise (the slider tracks well), the wobble and vibration are horrible. The vibration is so bad when the detent is set to 45, it sounds like the motor is going to blow up. The saw has way too many flaws; granted I think the design (other than the dust extraction - it sucks pun intended) is OK and has potential. The manufacturing is poor at best. In any case, I will give Ridgid a call, but I think this thing will end up on Craigslist. It is still a decent saw for framing and related work, but I will end up going for a Dewalt 779 or 780. I do have other Ridgid power tools which are fine and like. Unfortunately, this saw is horrible.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience! I ended up with that same Dewalt if you want to check out my video on it, I love it. I really wanted the Ridgid to work out, it was my first choice, but I’m happy with what I ended up buying. Thanks again for the comment and thanks for watching the video too - hopefully Ridgid sees it and makes some changes to their QC and Engineering. 🙏🏻✌🏻
I wish I saw your video yesterday, I went out today and bought one. It's still in the box....I'm on the fence about trying it now. I'll get back to you in the next couple of days....wish me luck!
Good luck trying it out!! I hope yours works - not everyone has the issues with the vibration, and there's a chance they've fixed the issue but I'm unfortunately not optimistic on that. Thanks for checking out the video and for reaching out!
Ok, all unpacked and it's taking time to understand all about this saw, but the basics are easy. I'm in the process of building a shed, lots of cuts, especially for the rafters. So far, i have had no issues with blade wobble, nice straight and clean cuts. All my tools are Rigid! Thank you
@@paulernandez5382 are you still happy with it? Just put mine together this morning and was looking for a video to clarify a few parts when I stumbled upon this one
@@dylanvelasquez3379 yes, very happy. for now it's put away, but it get allot of use before the cold weather set in. I even used it to cut my vinyl siding, not wobble from the blade
I was going to buy the saw 4221 today it was marked down for a great price at Home Depot(270). I’m happy I stumbled upon your video. Now that’s off the table.
Wow.. thought I was the only one. I just bought this 3 days ago from Home Depot and thought I was crazy because something felt off , and then I did my first cut on a 2x6 and it started ok but about halfway thru the board it felt like it slowed down, never felt this on my other miter (a 10"ridgid) . I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, I cut the same board on my older 10"Ridgid and it cut smooth and effortless.. tried again on the 12" and blade slowed down significantly during the cut that it kicked back! never happened to me before. I tried it a dozen more times with 2x4, 4x4, 2x6 and it struggled to cut. It also felt like something moving/wobbling while I pushed thru. I didn't try another blade because I didn't want to spend another $50-$60 for something that should work out of the box. I immediately jumped online to look for review/videos and sure enough I wasn't the only one. Thanks for the video, I'm going to lug this this monster back to home depot, shame because the saw came with a free stand which is awesome.
Uh oh. This does not make me feel confident. I just got the same bundle. For $399 I thought it was a heck of a deal. I haven't even taken it out of the box and I'm thinking I might need to take it back. Did you get another rigid or different brand?
I'm be had my my saw of the same model for just over a year now. The better I've gotten at the craft the more I noticed the wobble. I first thought it was the blade. I was wrong. You're lucky you noticed it as soon as you did before the many other things broke like mine. One side of the handles for the bevel slips and does nothing. It continuously needs adjusted on both miter and bevel. And worst of all...the guard gets hyperextended on the down setting and won't come up as I pull down. I've had to take that whole assembly apart numerous times to bend and beat all the parts back straight again just to have it fail again a week or two later. Ive learned how to deal with its many idiosyncrasies but the blade wobble was its final nail in the coffin. Thanks for posting and letting me know I'm not alone.
TatorLauncher Sorry to hear about your bad experience but I am so glad you took the time to share. My hope is that Ridgid sees this thread, and video, and does something about this horrible situation. They consistently did not care to help me out at all through my process, so I’m not sure. Maybe after enough people see this and choose NOT to buy it, maybe then they will reach out. Thanks again for watching and for the comment, I really appreciate it!! 🙏🏻💪🏻👍🏻
Update on my saw. I dropped it off at Home Depot on July 2nd with my laundry list of repairs. When I was getting close to the 90 day mark I started calling inquiring to whatevs up. Admittedly I got jerked around for a few more weeks with the “waiting on parts” routine. But I stayed calm polite and respectful until today, Oct 22 Home Depot called me to let me know there was a brand new saw there waiting on me to pick it up. Bottom line. Satisfied.
Hey that’s awesome!! Sorry it took so long, but at least they are doing the right thing and switching it out for you!! Let me know how the new saw turns out!! Good luck!
I just got a new Ridgid 12" sliding miter saw and the entire saw has a terrible vibration. My old cheap Ryobi is smooth and precise. So glad you posted this video. The company has produced a pile of junk. Unfortunately I was really excited to get this saw and couldn't be more disappointed. Great video and your video on the DeWalt has me considering the options.
The 779 by Dewalt is a great choice but not for tight areas, the saw is huge!!! Check out the Delta Cruzer for a slider that sits flush against a wall. And for something different check out my video on the Evolution saw, I’ve got another video coming as well for their dual miter option. Thanks for checking out the video! 👍🏻
My wife bought me this saw for Christmas 2018 without my input. To be honest, I would have never had purchased it since I always used Dewalts for more beefy cuts and used Hitachi for more pre ision and never would have considered Rigid for a saw. I have a curved staircase where I did a chair rail and backer and also did some faux wainscoting where I was doing 65+ degree cuts, kerfing out the wazoo for arched entrances and also cutting crowns as well. Fortunately, I had none of these problems other than the dust issue. When my wife purchased the item I read all the reviews on home depot's site and I notice that the stand reviews (which is awesome) were included...kind of made me fear the worse, thinking they were stacking the deck on the reviews. I was so concerned I called Rigid and they assured me the wobble problem was fixed (so, they are aware of this). So, come January I assembled everything and I made literally thousands of cuts with a diablo blade and have never looked back. Even making my wife a desk with hardwood maple lumber and maple veneer plywood, as well along with thousands of cuts on the soft stuff moulding material. I am at a loss that so many people have experienced this, but thought I would share my experience as well. For full disclosure, I am not a pro that cuts throughout the day, but I am a skilled DIYer that has done a fair share of cutting with high end and mid-grade saws.
Timothy, I really appreciate you taking the time to write this all out!!! I know some people that had good luck as well, it’s a solid mix of both sides. I am about to post a Dewalt review now, for their 12” Sliding Miter, and it’s been great for me so far. At the end of the day I just wish Home Depot or Ridgid would acknowledge the issue to at least pull the bad models off the shelf. I hope you have continued good luck with your Saw, and I really appreciate the comment and you watching my video!!!
Great detailed description! I have the same saw but hardly use it due to the saw being humongous, the table it sits on is 25 inch wide but still too narrow, the sliding mechanism to wide to where it hits the wall. Could you do a video on the type of stand your saw is sitting on? Thanks a lot!!
Thank you for such a helpful video! I bought one today (12-06-20) still in box. I’ll look for the serial number and be on the lookout for defects. Earlier I was at Lowes and had a Dewalt on my cart, but didn’t purchased it. I might have to reconsider .
I’ve got a video on the 779 Model from Dewalt as well if you’re interested, that’s what I ended up with and I love it!! Good luck and thanks for reaching out! 💪🏻
So I’ve had my saw for a couple days and after about 8 hrs of use I couldn’t find any wobble in the blade. The only thing I’ve had to do is adjust the alignment for the angle. After reading some comments about the serial number range I checked mine and it’s 1830. Looks like I picked the right one off the shelf is all I can figure. I love the saw though. It’s tough and looks like it’ll last for years with basic maintenance and care like anything else.
Luke - you definitely got a good one man! I wanted to keep mine soooooo bad, it felt weird to buy another brand, but my Dewalt Miter is a beast and I love it!! In the end I’m happy with how it turned out, but definitely wished the Ridgid would have worked out!! Thanks for watching and for sharing your feedback!! 💪🏻🙏🏻
Jesse k I know it’s on a little metal plate, and I think it’s on the underside of the saw. When you do find it it’s one of those “why did they put it here” moments if I remember right.
So I have to say I took my ridged saw back after a few weeks of trying to convince myself that the wobble wasn’t there. It’s just too noticeable even with the “fix” from the factory and correct vin number. I was in Home Depot the other day and saw they had the Dewalt DWS799 for $399 with a free rolling stand. I couldn’t resist it! After 3 weeks of use I’m 100% convinced I made the right decision! This saw is so much better. They have some great deals this week on Dewalt Miter saws too. I’d make the swap. Hope this helps.
Luke Spencer Awesome on the Dewalt!! That’s the saw I ended up with as well!! 💪🏻 I did a video on it too - it was a great deal and the saw has been amazing so far! Thanks for coming back to share - the more stories we can get here the more likely someone at Ridgid might actually see it and care. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving! 🙏🏻
Thanks for the video. I had the same issue with the lock handle. Thanks for saving me the aggravation of figuring out on my own. I'll get back to you if I have wobble issues with the blade.
What to do?...I seem to have serial number 1835...The box is unopened as it was purchased earlier today from HD....As I read more and more and more reviews....What is this oil that is to be applied to the outer washer? Does oil need to be continually applied?
May want to set it up and see if you have the wobble - it’s noticeable right away. They do return the Saw for sure. I know some guys that got lucky and got a good Saw for sure. Let me know what happens and good luck!! Thank you for watching!!! 💪🏻🤘🏻
I’ve been using the exact saw for quite some time now with no issues whatsoever all my tools besides my 14 inch bandsaw is now all rigid only for the last 3 years all my friends say good bye to bananas (dewalt) and hello oranges (rigid) lol and I use my tools from planer to everything in between for my furniture business and I’m 100% satisfied with my rigid tools. Don’t ask me about the life time warranty because I’ve had no issues to try to use it ?
The wrench in the handle got me with my first circular saw. I berated the poor Home Depot guy about it and found it when I got home. I have that exact saw in my shop and use it daily, I have a vacuum and not the bag but I literally have no dust and absolutely love the saw. I also bought it to replace my old Delta which was great but the new one is better. I believe you sir got a major 🍋
Thx for quick response. Returning my new “12” RIDGID… How is the DWS779 Dewalt functioning? After this vid feeling like it’s the choice, so I’m really interested in feedback
I really loved my 779!! I only sold it because we were moving and building a new house, had to let go of as many tools as possible due to limited storage space. Hands down was my favorite miter saw. BUT I will say, if you are in a cramped spot, check out the Delta Cruzer, because it can sit flush up against a wall, and let me tell you I may be leaning that way for when my new shop gets setup!
I was looking at this saw.... until I saw this video and read a lot of reviews. I'm still looking for a "budget" 12" sliding with dual bevel.... I don't do a lot of cutting, mostly just around my house for renovation and the occasional jobs. Right now, the wife wants to re-do all the baseboard (taller baseboards) and door trims and I don't want to spend more than $350ish on a saw (my 20yr old Craftsman finally bit the dust). What other "budget" saws would you recommend? Is the Ryobi one at HD any good? I don't like any of their hand tools but wasn't sure about the saws... Thoughts?
Check out the Dewalt 779 - got a video on it here. ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html I'll be doing a video on a light add-on kit very soon as well which is a cheap but great upgrade to the 779
I just got the saw and it works great and is very versatile and easy to adjust for a variety of cutting needs. For the money, I don't think you can beat it. Check out some of the other youtube videos to get a balanced view.
What is the model number for the 12"? Also, what was wrong with the 10"? I was looking for a 12" just because it's bigger but if the 10" works well (dust collection, blade wobble, etc) then I would have no problem getting the smaller of the two. Honestly, I'm only buying Ridgid's warranty. They make good not great products but their warranty beats all.
Kelvin, thanks for the comment!! I didn’t try out the 10” saw myself, but I’ve heard from a lot of people that the 10” is solid and doesn’t have the issues the 12” Slider does. I purchased 2 of them (the 12” Sliders) that both had the same issues. I think I put the model numbers up on the video, but I’m not exactly sure so my apologies if I didn’t. Good luck with the 10” and check out Evolution Power Tools as well, as a newer to the US company, that makes some badass stuff!! Dewalt makes an awesome Slider too!! 💪🏻🤘🏻🙏🏻
Funny I ended up here after watching your review on the Dewalt 12” slider. I was shopping for a replacement for my 12” Rigid compound which has huge blade wobble now but that’s after 12 years of use. My decision was made easier after watching this video and the fact that in my area the Rigid sells for almost $100 more then the Dewalt. I went with the Dewalt slider but I still love my Rigid table saw.
good video we just bought one R4222. The tool( Alan wrench/ Philips head) is in the handle where u would lift it up to carry if needed .Not in the packaging
hey man starting to really plan for van conversions, saw this miter saw at home depot and thought it was a good price. thank you for saving me time frustration and money!
Just an fyi: the dust chute is NOT lower because you bought a sliding miter saw. Throw a 4x4 post on your saw and try to slide your saw forward and the dust boot would come in contact with the 4x4 post. So, thats the reason it's not hanging lower. Now, if this were a non-sliding saw, you could make that dust chute much lower. But, as is, its designed to clear 2x4,6,10,12 material that users would "typically" be using this saw for.
1/24/21 I picked up the saw, unboxed and set it up in the shop, fired it up and there was the infamous death wobble. I too had been told by the "tool manager" the issue was from last year, a bad product run and there was not problem. He stated the item was selling out quickly. The blade as provided was not bad but had a slight deflection on my straight edge, so I went got the Diablo Blade, installed it, and guess what, it was worse. Back to Home Depot tomorrow, refund, and go to Lowes purchase the Hitachi Metabo, we currently have 4 of their saws, one 14inch that has been in service for 28 years. Perhaps they are not selling that well as there was 1/4 inch of dust on the box.
Thanks for this comment - proves my point that everyone needs to be aware of this issue and that Ridgid needs to get in front of it and pull the saws, fix the issue, BEFORE continuing to sell this model. Hope you find a saw that works for you - I ended up with the Dewalt 779 - and I'll be doing a video on the light kit add-on as well very soon.
Thanks for this video! Unfortunately I found this video when doing research about why my RIDGID saw has a blade wobble! Super frustrating! And I’m not one to take the time to take something back, knowing I won’t be satisfied on most accounts! Based on your feedback of your conversation with RIDGID, only confirms my suspicions! Of course they have no idea! I went ahead and used the saw to complete a full remodel of the basement. But, though I got through it, if you’re looking for precision, this saw is not for you! And HOLY DUST!!!!!
Thanks Rich! Sorry to hear yours is one of the bad ones... man I wish they’d take action on this and get people some new saws. They know it’s an issue.. that’s why these saws are always on the clearance rack. Good luck down the road and thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment! 💪🏻
Where is the serial number? Ive tried googling its location and i think ive found it but would like to be certain. Also, and its probably a stupid question, but why does it matter that the blades wobbles vibrates? Will that stop it from cutting true/square/straight? EDIT: I just ran out to the garage to check mine. Purchased it maybe a month ago. I needed/wanted one bad and for $250, basically 50% off, i couldnt pass it up. Anyway, looking down the blade as you did, mine doesn't seem to have even the most minute amount of wobble, but then again this is my first miter saw. Same goes for vibration, how much is excessive? Its kind of jumpy when i first pull the trigger, but smooths out long before top speed. My brother is a very skilled machinist, would it be worth it to check the runnout with a dial indicator? Any idea what i should be hoping for?
I could feel vibration that wasn’t normal - almost like an accelerated “knocking” feeing. When I’d cut a piece of wood I could feel the vibration in the wood and almost see the blade skipping a bit as it started to bite into the wood going slow. I’ve read / heard that the blade wobble is a motor issue which is cause by vibration. I’ve also heard some people have the wobble and just don’t notice it really until someone else points it out OR they use a different saw that doesn’t have the problems - and they go AHHHHHH that’s way better!! My Dewalt is night and day different. It’s so smooth and strong, no issues. I hope yours is a good one!! I so wanted mine to be perfect - I tried two of them and just no luck for me! Thanks for watching and for sharing your story!!! 💪🏻🙏🏻🛠
Not sure where on the saw, my guess would be on the bottom of it. I know it’s on the box for sure because that’s how I found them at Home Depot. Starts with an “R” I believe... it’s been a while since I had it at this point - my apologies.
Hi guys, surprised by this video for sure. I am in Canada and have a R4513 model that is very similar (a few locking mechanism differences but very similar indeed) and have experienced none of the problems you guys went through with this saw except one. You are so right that the dust collection bag in a joke, its just flat out bad. I hooked the unit into my dust collection system and it is greatly improved but there is still more dust left on the unit than I would like to see. Overall though I am really happy with this unit that I have had for 3 years or so now, sorry you guys experienced the blade wobble situation - that is pretty poor.
Doug - Thanks for sharing your experience with the saw!! I know some people here that have had some great luck with it and others that had similar experiences to my own. I really wish it had turned out better, but I am very happy with my Dewalt saw as it’s treated us very well so far! Plus I’ve got an Evolution Rage 10 in. Miter for all the odds and ends cuts - if you don’t know about them check out my video on their saw as well - it’s a beast - can cut steel, pvc, wood, nail embedded wood, all really well. Maybe we should invent a superior dust collection adaptor and become billionaires? Sounds like a plan!!!!
@@TheToughGuysTV I think the dust collector can't be large or come down like a fixed non-sliding one or else it would hit the material you're cutting???... so attaching a vacuum seems like a must (?)
Picked-up the R4222 saw with “free”stand promo $449 CAN ($358USD) yesterday. Easy setup, straight cuts, no wobble after a few tests. For my use, I’ll never need to buy another.
Hey Guys, just bought the kit today at Home Depot (it's still in boxes) Canadian $497 + taxes for saw and stand. Seems like a great deal but I see why now. I was just roaming and researching reviews comparing this r4222 to the Dewalt when I stumbled upon this video/review. I do see below where someone else bought the new model and it seems to be working. The newer box actually has an identification on it that reads " New and Improved" and I checked the Bar code number (presumably serial no.) which reads BX1950 - so I'm hoping it's a December 2019 model as described in your video. Not 100% sure what I want to do from this point but I really do like the stand and many of the features of the r4222. Just went through another similar situation in Canada with Mastercraft 12" mitre saw and the junk it was and problems with Canadian Tire as retailer with poor customer service.
If you don’t mind circling back to share if it works well I’d greatly appreciate it! Hoping to keep raising awareness of the issues with this saw so that Ridgid will fix it!! Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to comment! 🙏🏻
Which stand?? the Ridgid Universal?? that's a good deal, I'm looking at buying a saw but no good deals yet with HD in Ontario yet, Saw is $449 currently, and the stand is $199
I just bought this saw today prior to watching this video. My model# is 4222T and does not seem to have the wobble issues shown on yours. Im also using a 12" Diablo blade and not the stock blade that came with it. Is it possible that the factory blades are just junk? There are some additional differences in the design of the saw between the one i bought today compared to yours. Maybe they have fixed the issues? I made a few cuts to see how far out of alignment the machine was and the dust collection could be better but i had not hooked up to my central vac yet.
@@TheToughGuysTV i have not had any issues. I didnt use the stock blade at all. I installed a new Diablo 12". Ive made probably 3 dozen cuts so far without issue .
I have this saw and the ridgid miter stand utility vehicle. Actually been sitting in storage the last 4 years but just assembled yesterday 😂. I have no blade wobble at all since I tested it today 🤞
BTW - re the "MISSING BLADE WRENCH" - It comes from the factory mounted/inserted in the grey rear handle of the saw. It's clearly visible on the extreme right side of the screen at 6:26m and a few other time locations as well. They didn't forget it, they just tucked it into a handy storage place where it's readily available and less likely to get lost... or found? It's location is illustrated on pg 8 of the and is listed among the "Loose Parts" on pg 12. I have the 4221 which was a gift and just set up (months after receiving it because my DeWalt 10" doesn't have the same capabilities) and discovered severe wobble the moment I switched it on. Interesting to read various input remarks as to possible culprits: it seems like a shudder as may be either harmonically induced or blade balance although it's hard to ascertain because in isn't fully constant which led me to suspect it could be a drive train issue such as motor bearings or bushings because it's rather noisy too - that said my Makita 7 1/4" Hypoid is a noisy beast too. Cut surfaces aren't as nearly as badly marked as I had expected they'd be - but I'm sorely disappointed that Ridgid pushed this otherwise superb saw to market without thorough pre-production QA or inline QC production testing. Other than that, I have a lot of Ridgid tools that I'm very happy with, as well as some DeWalt tools that strike me as being a bit over-hyped.
I've had mine just about a year ,no wobble issues,are you sure everything is level? Or possible defect? Honestly love mine and I'm only an amateur not professional so maybe you detected more but I thank you for the video it aided in my husband & I doing a safety check on my saw and so far so good...I wish you happy sawing .
Yeah as far as I know it was defective. I bought 2 saws during my process, and there tons of reviews with the same issue. It’s apparently a motor vibration issue and not an issue with the blades or the arbors. Glad the video helped out and I hope yours stays strong for you!! 💪🏻💪🏻
Yeah, it's unreal to be honest. A lot of people just say 'it's the blade'... it's the motor vibration, not the blades. Ridgid just needs to pull all these saws!
It’s pretty noisy, I personally haven’t had a miter that wasn’t super loud. This one though does have issues w/ vibrations, I definitely can’t recommend this saw.
Just purchased and put together this saw with the matching rigid stand. Haven't cut anything yet. What cuts what you recommend to test if there if blade wobble?
I'd try cutting a 2x4, just something standard. I noticed it immediately - a vibration feeling in the saw - hard to explain in the video, but it was noticeable. The 2nd saw I believe was worse. Good luck with yours!
I just got it yesterday. Made a farmhouse coffee table. Cut 4x4s, 2x8’s. 2x10s and 2x4s. No one issue. Guess the ones having issues don’t know what’s up.
Was the 1826 or 1831 in the first part of the serial number or the last part. The serial number on mine is really long with letters and numbers at the beginning and end of the serial number and none of the numbers are in groups of four like your 1826, but in groups of five. Thanks.
If memory serves me correctly it's the end - could be wrong on that, been a bit since I returned these saws. Thanks for reaching out - apologies I can't be of more help!
thanks for video i would have bought this saw yesterday but hd is 110 miles from my house and it was snowing you saved me money and time i will go with milwakee thanks again
I watched this video first and then unboxed the saw to use it on some fascia boards. From the serial number it looks like mine was built in 2021 month 26. Funny thing is that it did indeed have a bit of wobble and vibration the first few runs and then it seemed to go away...almost like it needed to wear something in..I'm suspecting that the brake for the motor on previous units was binding and causing the wobble...that would also explain the lack of power in some units as well...I will report back after finishing the project
I have built a couple of cedar/VG doug fir (splinters easily) fence gates with this and I'm not experiencing blade wobble. I used the 60 tooth blade out of the box too...I'm switching it out to a 100 tooth for some interior trim work and will report back. I really do think it has something to do with the motor brake being dialed in too tight on some units. I bought this for $200 on clearance
That really looked like the blade hole was out of round or not centered. Did you verify with another blade? It didn't look like side to side wobble, looked concentric or not concentric. Just curious mainly... might be a horrible arbor.
Tried different blades and tried two different saws through the video. Definitely a defective product from what I found and per Some extra digging it’s apparently a flaw in the motor - thanks for watching!!
@@TheToughGuysTV Cool. I was considering this or the DeWalt DWS799. I ended up with the DWS799 and am upgrading to the LED shadow light via kit. This video helped me make that decision. That wobble would have been a huge frustration. Great video and thanks! By the way, the blade that comes with the DeWalt was warped on mine. I put a Diablo on it and it ran true. Just in case others see that I thought I'd mention it.
I just watched your demo on 12in Miter Saw. I was considering purchasing one, but now I’m going to hold off and consider another brand even though they are currently on sell.
I've got a video on the channel for a 12'' Dewalt Miter - it's my go-to now, use it almost daily. Check it out if interested! ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html
I had the same problem with the new Skilsaw mag77. PIECE OF JUNK. Went through 3 of them in a week, sounds like there's rocks in the gearbox and awful blade wobble. I got the Ridgid worm drive saw and I LOVE it.
I bought my R4222 saw on March 30, 2022 and used it 1 day and didnt see or feel any wobble or vibrations. But then again I didn't read any reviews before buying it either to know there were wobble and vibration issues. I was more concerned about the blade getting caught in the wood and launching forward like my retired ADMIRAL 12 in. Dual-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw does. So far the R4222 has been fine. But more use is a coming.
Woodworking Beginner: Update. This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work). Tips and Test: Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)! Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade. Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt. Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing . And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft. It is very important that everything is aligned. Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade. first option: handle vertical positioned above the saw blade. Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact/ Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS. Second optie: handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 . (This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails). (If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing. Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed). Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand or finger on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine. Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing. (test is completed). Step-4. Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade. The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade. Step-5. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing. Conclusion: how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours). Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff in line a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winner...
It'd be interesting to know if it was a unbalanced blade issue. Been watching a bunch of miter saw videos and the general consensus is 10" are smoother while 12" have more vibration and wobble in general. Idk has anyone tried a better blade ?
I tried a couple different blades and two different saws from Ridgid. My understanding per a tool repair shop is that it’s vibration caused by the motor, a defect that Ridgid knows about.
Thanks for the video. I bought the Dewalt yesterday, the sales guy who knew nothing on the floor recommended the Rigid citing the lifetime warranty as he said "what more do you want" I responded "I want a tool that works lol" I think I made the right choice in part from your videos.
I just picked up a Dewalt myself!! Putting together a video on it currently and so far I love it so much!! I got the 779 model, that’s on sale for $350 right now. I was so disappointed that Ridgid wouldn’t admit there is an issue.. shocked is moreso the better word because they’ve always worked with me in the past. Once I saw how wide spread this issue seamed to be, I figured that I had to document my process and put a video out. Thanks so much for watching!!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I just want to echo your comment about completely unplugging your saw when changing the blade. My trigger was accidentally depressed today while I was trying to loosen the arbor. Luckily there wasn’t a blade in the saw. Also lucky I didn’t break any fingers or wrists as the wrench was forcibly ripped out of my hands. Stay safe.
I've used other (10" saws) previously and was pretty surprised with the speed and cutting ability of this Dewalt saw.I have bolted mine to a table to minimize movement which I highly recommend.This is a Great saw ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe with a light to see your cutting line (not a laser line).I'd recommend this saw fro anyone looking to upgrade from a 10" miter saw.
Thanks, I was about to pick one up the other day but thought I'd do a little research. Disappointing because the features / price really makes it attractive compared to the others.
Chris, I so wanted mine to be awesome. I was so excited to get that saw and I just couldn’t justify keeping it after 2 tries. Some people have had good luck I will say - so if you do love it and you’re willing to make a return, you could always try it out!! Good luck and thanks for watching and for the comment!! 🙏🏻💪🏻🛠
Just great! I bought this tonight..came home and set up and did 1 test cut. Then before I tried to do the work I bought it for...I decided to watch some tutorials on this saw and yours was the first. I sure hope I got a better saw. I bought the R4222 serial #2027 (if i'm looking at the right number)
@@TheToughGuysTV Unfortunately, the DWS779 has been discontinued. It's not available online or in-store, unless you're OK with paying more than $400 or you can find a good used one. EDIT: I found one at Lowe's for $399.
I just bought one a few days ago as well as other commenters here with the stand deal. I will let you know how it is in a few days when I set it up. By the way I have almost everything Ridgid as well. The tools and service has treated me very well so far but I must admit I heard a lot of horror stories.
How has the saw been for you?? Was wondering if you ran into any issues - people have been asking if Ridgid has fixed the saw. Thanks for reaching out and for your support!
@@TheToughGuysTV As far as I can tell its perfect. I just finished crown on two different houses and on the second one you couldn't get the smile off my face because I knew I had what I needed. Mine (R4222) is a big step up from the other one. I wanna hear from more guys with R4222?????
Glad the video found you before the purchase! Not seen the Bosch but will look it up - from what I know about their products, I'm betting it's amazing! Thanks for the comment!
I went though 4 of them and all had the same wobble, as much as I wanted this saw I finally went with dewalt and love it, good video, Telman who make the comment about being a bad carpenter should learn to spell Ridgid properly
Chris v Man sorry to hear you had to deal wit 4 of them!! I had to cut it off at 2!!! Thanks for the support and for watching!! And to the trolls, I just try to smile and wish them well 🤣😂💪🏻
Dude great Video very Informative. That wobble was crazy. I’m in the market for a new Saw and I’m leaning towards Dewalt, I had one in the past and lasted forever.
I had the same issue with the saw. I though I was crazy. Blade wobble with new Diablo blade and when making miter cuts on tall material like risers it cuts crooked line 1/8 -1/16 maybe even a 32 but as a finish trim carpenter it makes all the difference in the world
Man, 41,000 potential lost customers. I am in process setting mine up now, I hope I don't experience this issue. Rebuilding a playset, doing flooring and trim on a jobsite (and yes, this is damn heavy), and other random projects as they come. I predict it will be better than a circular saw but you got me on high alert here.
Sad to see that. If that blade is tight, which I'm sure you know how to tighten these. Then it may be shitty bushings or bearing in the motor...that's depressing. Not a fan boy of rigid, but switched to rigid tools after bad experience with another brand. Glad you made this video
Thanks Joseph and seriously I wanted this saw to work out so bad. I tried everything I could think of. I am happy with my Dewalt now, it’s been a workhorse. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 💪🏻
victor feliciano you’ll love it!!! I’m so happy I was able to help you out!! I love Ridgid but they bombed with this saw!! I really enjoy my Dewalt - I’ve got a full review on it as well Dewalt 12in Sliding Miter Saw: Setup & Review ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html. Thank you so much for watching and for sharing your feedback!! 💪🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
Wow thanks dude u saved me I have a 10 inch dewalt love it but I’m thinking of the 12 inch dewalt or the Hercules, which I heard is amazing for the money..
I ended up w/ the Dewalt 779 12" Miter, I sort of wish had gone with the 10" but it's all good. Glad the video helped you out! I've got a video up on the 779 if you're interested. Also, about to be doing a new video on the light kit add-on for the 779 which saves a TON of money compared to upgrading to the 780. Thanks again!
@@TheToughGuysTV thank you so much brother, I have the DW717 discontinued , I love it but I can’t find a left fence for the love of god, that one of the reason why I wanna upgrade . So your saying the 10 is better?
I purchased the very same saw on Dec 11th 2020. Had my contractor set it up on the stand that goes with it but sold separate $129. Today is Dec 20th, I am returning the saw and the stand. It is a monster. Way too much saw for me as I am a female and really am over powered by this monster. Purchase a 10" Ryobi and stand. Think is will be a better choice for me.
I recently saw the Ryobi 7-1/4in Cordless Miter at Home Depot, and I was very impressed by how small, light weight, and versatile it was. The 10in is a great choice as well!! The only reason I went with the 12" is because we do a lot of cutting of larger planks or 4x4 / 4x6 lumber, so it made sense for us. Hope your purchase works out well and thanks for watching!
@@TheToughGuysTV LOL, I originally purchased the 7 1/4" Cordless Ryobi Miter saw on Dec 9th, it was too small so took it back on Dec 11th, that's when I purchased the "Behemoth' 12" Ridgid. Oh, and at the same time I purchased the 7 1/4" Ryobi, I purchased the Ridgid stand...if you haven't seen the stand for the 12" Ridgid, it is just at massive. That little 7 1/4" sitting on that stand looked like a walnut sitting on the Golden Gate bridge! So the stand and the saw both were returned. I am happy with the 10" Ryobi sliding compound and the Ryobi stand. Oh by the way, thanks for telling me where the allen wrench for the 'monster' was. My contractor and I thought the same thing you did, it didn't come with one. Luckily I have several. The only thing that Ridgid has going for it it that is that is its BIG...BFD! So if you are Big Foot, I have a saw for you! Carol Poznik.
Like to suggest..... Before you rip open the top lid as in this case; think . The easiest way of unpacking this type of product or any other product that is heavy; especially on your own is to TILT the box, cut the bottom tape tape and edge by edge fold back the flaps as you set the box back down. Slit partially the top tap seal to let air in. Then lift the box of of the internal pack. Don't try and lift the contents out of the box. Take care of your back.
Gonna get the Dewalt 779...probably today since its on that sale. My neighbor is sold on Rigids, and I do like the guarantee thing myself...but not something that comes with a wobbly blade that spews saw dust everywhere! I am interested if you know if the parts that are in the new 780 can be easily swapped on the 779?
Not sure about the part Swaps, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got the 779 myself - did an unboxing and setup and I still have it and love it. I don’t have the led light - as far as I know that’s the only option I lost. Also, Lowe’s switched the 32T blade for a 60T blade for me no charge when I bough it which was cool of them. Link to video ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html Thanks again for watching and good luck with your new Saw!! 💪🏻🛠
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Just picked up saw and stand combo as a combo purchase and just put it together today in prep for some trim work on a house we are remodeling. I checked with Home Depot and they assured me these were the new models and did not have the issues with blade wobble the R4221 models had. First cut seemed ok, but upon longer cuts, found the motor would bog ever so slightly and at the same time could feel vibration pick up. Did a few more cuts on various wood and experience the same issue. Also noticed whenever the “vibration” could be felt, the wood would “splinter” or “chip” at the cut line. Took back to the store and swapped for another. I really want this saw to work as it is the best value for the money over dewalt, Hercules, and others in this price range. That being said, if it can’t cut a smooth line, it isn’t much of a value at all. Planning to try to test the replacement out tomorrow and will post an update then.
Yes please definitely come back and update if you can!! Hoping your new one cuts true and clean for you! Such a bummer about these saws seriously... I wanted mine to work so bad!!! Thank you so much for sharing your experience, and for watching! 🙏🏻💪🏻
Sadly the replacement did the same thing. I have contacted support via email and done some research. I tried a different Blade with same results. Going to stop by and get a Diablo blade as a last resort. Also read that sanding the outside locking piece that holds the blade using high grit sandpaper on a flat surface may resolve the issue.
My wife is insisting that since it has a lifetime warranty to give it a chance. I think it may work sufficiently for what I immediately need it for. Since I used a HD cc to purchase (buy stuff this way for the 365 day return policy), going to give it the chance. Will continue to update as I try different things and work with support (assuming they don’t just tell me to stuff it and just return it repeatedly).
Update #2 - After contacting support again, I was advised that the issue has not been reported for any of the R4222 saws so supposedly I would be one of the first. I was advised to purchase a high quality blade as the wobble is more noticeable on bevel cuts they feel the blade may be the culprit. Keep in mind I tried the ridgid blade that is was shipped with and an a avantipro blade. In the next few days I will get a Diablo blade and go from there. I’d they does not fix it I was advised to take it to a repair center and see if they can look at it while I am there to see what they would recommend.
I had them check my sons saw which does the same and the SN on it shows it was manufacturers after the issues was fixed. So it seems to the R4221 and 4222 use the same “fixed” arbor setup. I was not told that, but I am deducing it based on experience. More updates to come once I switch blades (again).
@@brianshackelford5564 Thanks so much for the continued updates!! I'm going to Pin your original comment so hopefully people can read this thread. So extremely helpful man, truly! I tried filing down locking ring on mine as well, to make sure there were no burrs or imperfections.
I ended up with the Dewalt I have now, and it's pefectly smooth right out of the box. I also have an Evolution R255 Miter Saw which is also 100% smooth & true out of the box. I hope Ridgid appreciates customers like yourself who are willing to go through so much for their brand!! I really wanted to love my Ridgid Saw.. but after 2 of them I saw a rough future ahead.
Looking forward to hearing how the Diablo blade performs, I'll be very surprised if eliminates the issue all together. Thank you again for the continued updates!!!!
I figured I would write the sad, but apparently foreseen end to this tragedy. I went and purchased a Hercules 12" Sliding Dual Bevel Mitre saw from Harbor freight after reading and watching a LOT of reviews giving it very favorable ratings. Not wanting it to actually be better than a saw that is priced $200.00 more, I brought out the Ridgid, put the AvantiPro 80 tooth blade on it (OK its no Diablo, but it is supposed to be a decent blade) and made some more test cuts. The wobble seemed a little less with no load, but as soon as I started cutting I can hear the motor noise change and actual can feel the vibration in both the handle and the piece of wood I was cutting. Several iterations of this just to be sure.
So I broke down and opened the Hercules saw, set it up in about 5 minutes. First cut was AMAZING. Smooth as silk in the motor, never dropped power, no variation in the sound and it cut through the same wood like butter. Now, to be fair it may be that the hercules saw comes with a primo blade, but still, even with no load on it (not cutting) it sounded nothing like the Ridgid. Made same cuts with no issues. Did a series of comparison cuts and ended with splintering every time on the Ridgid no matter how slow I went. Same cuts with the Hercules on the same piece of wood - no splintering. Did miter and bevel cuts and again on the Ridgid could feel vibration and can actually seem the blade marks well defined (can actually feel them on one piece) vs the Hercules they were not visible.
It is a shame. I bought the Ridgid as a combo, love the stand, love all the features of the saw, but the main function just doesn't cut it - quite literally. I will be returning it as soon as I can get it in the back of my truck and drive the hour back to Home Depot. Thanks for the advice and the support. Ridgid - if you ever actually read this - start listening to your customers! You have a saw priced in the same range as the leading saws in this range, but you are simply not up to par on the quality in this case. Honestly, I again go back to suspecting it is something with the brake system - but hey - what do I know?
Just FYI - The saw from HF with 3 year replacement warranty (take it back and drop it on their counter and walk out with a new one or a refund) was around $400.00 including tax. Highly recommend if your budget doesn't quite allow for the Dewalt equivalent. Make sure to find a coupon before buying - don't pay full price. I hope this helps someone else out and I wish I had listened to all the reviews....
Follow up on my Rigid purchase and note to you from 1/24/21, after buying new Diablo Blade hoping the blade was the problem and returning Saw to Home Depot. Had considered the Metabo but not impressed upon closer look. Decided to get the Dewalt, not the "Special Buy" which is a lighter version. Went to the Depot, talked to the salesperson he gave me $50.00 off for the nonsense and took it to the shop, put it through the paces for 2 hours. This is an excellent saw, true and square and well built. I have been a carpenter for 40 years and it takes something to turn my head. Thought you might like to know. The associate that gave me the 50.00 off said this saw has had problems for the last year at least, he did not know why they continue to sell them. Some work fine but many are coming back. Thanks for the info on you channel.
Glad to hear it sounds like you got squared away well!!! I hope they've got a working inventory of saws now that avoids headaches unnecessarily for people. Thanks for the comment!
Really glad I stumbled on this post as I was about to purchase this saw even though it's regularly priced at $597 Can. without stand! I knocked my 12 in. Dewalt over while tidying up the garage and parts are no longer available. Thanks to your upload I will continue shopping around.
I love my dewalt - did a video on the 779 model if you’re interested check the channel for that one. Glad you found it as well!!! 💪🏻
Same here.
I had one for years and recently upgraded to a new one. Love.my saw. No wobble. Works great. Must've been a load that was damaged or motor not secured tight enough.
All in all I've had zero wobble and zero issues. Don't avoid based on a review, try and return I'd not happy. You have 90 days.
Just purchased the same saw, R4222, and was setting it up and found the same problem as you, I knew that something wasn't right so doing some looking in the manual, and on page 17, fig 14 in both of the images it show a ring that goes in the centre hole of the saw blade. So I called Ridgid and had them send me one as one wasn't with the saw the I took it out of the box. While watching you video I tried to pay close attention when you remove the left hand bolt that holds the saw blade in place and when you remove it there was no ring, and that where it should be when shipped, between the outer and inter washers as per the manual. The ring is there because the hole in the saw is a 1 inch hole and the arbor is 5/8 of an inch, I did measure them. As a final note I knew when I seen the image of the ring what it was for as my old miter saw had one. As of today I have yet to receive the ring so the issue isn't solved 100% but I am confident that should fix it.
You did a wonderful job showing and describing everything so I didn’t have to find multiple other videos to figure out the whole picture or even have to rewind your video more than once and I think I’m ready to go forth and chop shit up man! Missing my fingers and hitting my miters . You are celebrated as we speak! 🎉 thanks a lot!
Thanks for the comment! So glad the video helped you out! I appreciate your support, and I hope you’ll stick around for videos in 2024! 🙏🏻
I just bought this saw May 2023 no wobble at all perfect cuts had a job needed to cut 5-1/4 crown cut perfect inside and outside meters, I bought crown stops waiting for those to come should be pretty sweet set up.
How has your experience been with the saw so far? I got the saw and a stand on sale but haven't set it up yet
I just purchased the same model a few days ago and I have not had any problems with it at all.
Only issue I had was the sliding mechanism to lock in place of the bevels, but seeing you explain that now helped me understand it
I pretty much went through the whole saw and I have no complaints. Unfortunately you got stiffed,
It's all good! Onto better times now! Wishing you luck with the saw and thanks for watching
I just bought the same saw so still learning. The hex key is as you later discovered is supplied and the manual did indeed state the location, albeit not too visual.
On the dust issue it is a common problem; not just with Ridgid. Simply put NO DUST bag is worth a hoot. You cannot PUSH dust into a bag. You must PULL it. Therefore you need an input duct/port that is large enough in area to allow air flow great enough to suck the air volume required.
So the basic problem with a shop vac. connection is the mouth area of the exhaust input port; probably limited by rear area space.
Now on subject of blade wobble. This also is a core problem with any device with such a blade. It exists with a hand saw 7 inch blade or a saw with a 10 inch blade. In both cases it is less noticeable.
Now with a 12 inch blade it more noticeable because of the larger mass spinning larger diameter thicker blades (wider kerf). There are 'stiffener kits' available for some products which claim to counter this issue but they introduce bigger issues of blade diameter reduction or even mounting problems. Its not easily fixable.
This is basic aerodynamics matter. You may have already experienced this if you have flown at 35000 feet plus. The aircraft shakes because the wings are shaking (just like the saw blade) as it passes at high speed through the air.
Maybe you are a bit too harsh on the manufacturer. The wobble is a bit of a moot point. Does I cut OK?
I find it to be a good product when I cut probably the most demanding precision... compound miter crown molding joints.
The product was designed for construction/outside work so dust is not an issue.
(I should say I have NO relationship with anyone associated with manufacturing or distribution.)
Just a common old retired woodworker.
Thanks for the long comment - lots of info. I will say the vibration and wobble I felt is a known defect with this saw. My dewalt miter, the one I ended up buying, is like a hot knife through butter in comparison. Zero extra vibration and zero blade wobble. The amount of wobble I had was allowing the blade to skip across the cutting surface which is not good for any type of cuts or for the sake of safety. I also have another miter saw by Evolution (and videos up on both the Dewalt and the Evolution as well) and it also has zero wobble or weird vibration.
That’s my two cents on the whole thing. I bought two saws from Ridgid and both were the same horrible situation. Both got returned.
Thanks again for sharing your thought! 👍🏻
I called Rigid about a year ago. I found out that they updated the gears and arbor assembly to get rid of the blade wobble after serial number 1751 (one seven five one). She said they recently updated this information. You're welcome. I returned one to HD and got a newer serial number (after 1751) and it's perfectly fine. A great saw!
Nice man!! Thanks so much for sharing!! Hopefully people will see this serial number and know which one to buy!! I’ll see if I can Pin your comment to the top of the thread!! You rock and thanks for the support and comment!! 💪🏻🙏🏻🛠
@@TheToughGuysTV You're very welcome. I picked up my first one and was super pissed, so I researched a bunch. I read that the newer ones were updated, but didn't want to roll the dice with another one at HD until I was sure. I called and the lady was super helpful and knew exactly what I was asking. The downside is that you have to explain to the idiots at HD why you need to open the box (I was unable to find a serial number on the outside of the box). It was a pain in the ass because it's heavy and I had my daughter with me, who was squirming around in the cart. lol.
Man it’s a crazy process for sure and should definitely be easier!! I always have my kids with me at the store so I feel you there!!! 😂 I am so glad you shared a success story and I did pin your comment so others can see it!!! So awesome!
@@narlycharley hi, I just purchased this today I haven't taken it out of the box yet. But where can I find the serial number before I assemble it to see which one I have. Thanks in advance
Jesse k I think he just has a saw that works and shared the info. The whole situation is a nightmare for anyone stuck with once of these saws. The serial numbers he provide if based on date would be older than mine not the other way around, so I’m not sure.
Thanks for your video! I bought the R4222 yesterday (7/9/2022). As I was unboxing it, I found oil droplets spattered across the tool, parts and packaging. It made a slippery business of trying to free the tool from its Styrofoam home! Once on the table I went about cleaning and getting to know my new saw. The oil droplets came up easily, until they didn't... I found dark stains, almost like blobs of oil burnt into the Extension Table, that I couldn't remove. It only got worse from there. Areas at the back of the saw were corroded in a white mushroom fasion like what you'd find on an old battery. The top of one screw was covered in rust while it's neighbor screw was covered in black gunk. And finally, there they were... small crevasses caked with sawdust. "CRAP! Some knucklehead bought this thing, used it once and left it convalescing in a dark, damp corner where batteries go to die and then returned it to the store."
At this point I could care less about a Lifetime Warranty. How about a Stupid People Warranty that includes dispatching an intelligent human armed with understanding and compassion arrives at your doorstep instantly and replaces the defective saw with one free of imperfection? No buts. No excuses.
Here's the thing, though. When I opened the box, I first had to cut the surrounding plastic straps. In fact, ALL of the plastic straps, from the outside of the box to the contents, were present and intact, just like your video demonstrated. The tape on the box appeared to be original as well. The only unusual bit of packing was broken Styrofoam - the top piece and a couple of interior pieces. I was just going to take it back to Home Depot and exchange it. Now I'm wondering if I should test it for wobble first?
I bought a 12” Rigid sliding compound miter saw with a stand about ten years ago. It’s been a reliable tool, one of my favorites. (Mine looks much more sturdy and beefy than that one - back when things were made well.) My allen wrench has it’s own groove in back of the saw where it clicks in tightly, conveniently, and efficiently. Mine also came with a dust bag - it’s rectangular and fits across the sliding rails.
Doing some quick look at this model. I just bought it today 14aug2021. Thanks now that I got a video to compare it with. Hopefully this newer serial number have better luck. Subbed.
Thanks so much for the support! I hope you got a good saw and that Ridgid has made some changes, I truly was excited to have that saw at the start.. was such a bummer! Thanks again and hope you enjoy some other videos as well!
Any update on your satisfaction? I've been eyeing one but haven't pulled the trigger. I've been hoping they have it fixed by now (if it can be fixed without a redesign).
@@BurnAfter8 truthfully, i have only used it for one project. My comment won't be as good as most daily users...It worked splendid, I did not notice any wobble. I haven't had a chance to cut thicker wood. Let's just say 2x2 with sliding, i had zero issues. My main complaint was mentioned probably by others was the dustbag doesn't do it's job, very narrow. I instead use a vacuum, still makes a mess but I can live with and clean it myself without frustration. Dust latching to the sliding assembly doesn't cause any issues either.
You don't have to read this,
I couldn't wait so I bought the miter saw and stand for $580ish? But I returned them. And got the miter saw and i think pneumatic stapler bundle. At the same time the miter stand went from $200 to $120, thats when I jumped on that stand, so convenient but i don't recommend paying for more than $130. Lowest was $100, but i don't think it will ever go that low again. Unless you stumble on directtoolsoutlet.com when they have Ridgid "Factory Blemish" sales since they are also lifetime warranty as long you register and chat with Ridgid to complete the process. I jumped on the Ridgid Wagon. My starter brand is black and decker, but that ridgid lifetime warranty, deals, and HD military discount got me.
I wish I would have seen this video yesterday. I bought one yesterday and brought it home and was searching videos on this saw, set up, tricks tips, etc... and came across this video. Home Depot is 2 hours away, so I think I'll set it up before deciding whether to take it back or not.
How did the saw setup go for you? Have you had any trouble with it?
@@TheToughGuysTV It went pretty easy. And I don't seem to have the vibration problem. I haven't gotten to use it much yet. But all seems good so far.
Immediately change the blade. Don't use their factory blades
I bought the newest version about 2 weeks ago. My brother bought one last year..and I liked his so much I bought one too. Zero wobble and am very happy with it. I've had a dewalt before this .. my only complaints is they added a safety switch next to the trigger. And yes dust collection could be better.
Any update on your satisfaction? I've been eyeing one but haven't pulled the trigger. I've been hoping they have it fixed by now (if it can be fixed without a redesign).
@@BurnAfter8 I love it ..use it almost every day..gave up worrying about the dust..that is still shotty..but the cuts and power is great.
I just bought one today. Same thing with me as far as Dewalt. I’ve had my Dewalt miter saw since 2006 but it’s only a 10 inch and now it seems everyone and their brother want real tall crown and base. I’ve been able to get by with my 10” by laying the base flat and doing a compound cut but it’s a real pain in the ass doing it that way. I’ve only unboxed the new Ridgid so I don’t know yet how it cuts. I registered it with Ridgid tonight. One of the reasons I chose this saw is because of the lifetime warranty on parts and service. I’ve read in several places that the blade wobble thing has been taken care of so hopefully it’s not an issue.
@@wyattsdad8561 Give an update, please. I'm in the market and was about to buy a Dewalt on sale for slightly more than this one.
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove bahhhh I ended up taking it back to Home Depot because the saw was so big and heavy. It’s a nice saw tho. But seriously it’s too big to transport from job to job. It’s very long and very heavy. I hated to give it up because it seemed like it would do everything. I think it would be a great saw for a shop environment where you didn’t need to transport it all the time. I took it back and got the Dewalt DWS716XPS. This Dewalt doesn’t slide but it’s dual a bevel 12” miter saw with the light to shadow on the blade for easy cutting. It was 50 dollars more than the Ridgid. I’m happy with the Dewalt even tho it doesn’t slide. The other route I would consider is checking out the Hercules 12” sliding miter saw from harbor freight. It’s almost a clone of Dewalts 600 dollar 12” sliding miter saw. So Dewalt makes two 12” sliders, one is 300 and something and the other is 600. The Hercules is a clone of dewalts 600 dollar saw. Same weight and specs. Dewalts 300 dollar saw looks like their better saw but it’s not the same and it’s a lot heavier. If
Weight isn’t an issue you would be okay to get any of these saws tho. The sliding mechanism on the Dewalt seems smoother than the Ridgid tho.
Anyway I hope this didn’t make things more confusing.
I am very happy tho with the Dewalt saw I ended up with.
If anything your video encouraged me to buy one. Good video & I’m sorry you were disappointed. The issues you mention are not much of a concern to me. The blade wobble is most certainly the blade. You can even see it flex in your video when you pulled it loose from the tape. This thing is a beast!! With 12” blade, 15 amp motor & 3,850 RPM! Look at the huge teeth on that blade! If this thing is not making a mess well Houston we have a problem! Yes lots of dust. I would be disappointed otherwise. If the dust collector picks up the annoying fine dust that is in the air and lands on everything that’s fine with me. I’ll pick up the heavy dust. Also I would never use this in my finished house. My advice to you is to maybe pickup something that’s smaller, less powerful, & not such a cutting animal. Thanks for the video & your time.
I don’t know where my original comment was where you also said you bought the DWS779, but, I just picked one up tonight! Home Depot sale on the DWS779 for $349, seems like a steal so I grabbed one! Now I just have to wait for my new (and first) house to be finished in 4 more weeks! Then I can start sawing things!
My experience goes beyond yours. Bought mine back in 2016. The blade wobble was acceptable once I rotated the flange by 180. I guess it cancelled out the wobbling somewhat. I had no vibration at all. I used mine mainly to cut 2x4s or smaller stock; redid the base boards on house. Funny enough, in 3+ years I never had the need to use the sliders for any project that required any precision. A couple of months ago, I decided to build some drawers that were about 12" tall, so I decided to use the 4221 to make the cuts. To my surprise, the sliding mechanism was about 1/8" off from the fence to its full extend; in about 14" inches of travel, the deviation was 1/8". No way to correct it. I appears that the casting was bad and some people had reported the issue on some Ridgid forum. I spoke with Ridgid about it, and they suggested I sent it in for repair through my local Home Depot. After a few calls with the repair center to explain the issue, they offered to replace it with a refurbished 2018. Got the saw, an 1831 serial and although it is more precise (the slider tracks well), the wobble and vibration are horrible. The vibration is so bad when the detent is set to 45, it sounds like the motor is going to blow up. The saw has way too many flaws; granted I think the design (other than the dust extraction - it sucks pun intended) is OK and has potential. The manufacturing is poor at best. In any case, I will give Ridgid a call, but I think this thing will end up on Craigslist. It is still a decent saw for framing and related work, but I will end up going for a Dewalt 779 or 780. I do have other Ridgid power tools which are fine and like. Unfortunately, this saw is horrible.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience! I ended up with that same Dewalt if you want to check out my video on it, I love it. I really wanted the Ridgid to work out, it was my first choice, but I’m happy with what I ended up buying. Thanks again for the comment and thanks for watching the video too - hopefully Ridgid sees it and makes some changes to their QC and Engineering. 🙏🏻✌🏻
I wish I saw your video yesterday, I went out today and bought one. It's still in the box....I'm on the fence about trying it now. I'll get back to you in the next couple of days....wish me luck!
Good luck trying it out!! I hope yours works - not everyone has the issues with the vibration, and there's a chance they've fixed the issue but I'm unfortunately not optimistic on that. Thanks for checking out the video and for reaching out!
Ok, all unpacked and it's taking time to understand all about this saw, but the basics are easy. I'm in the process of building a shed, lots of cuts, especially for the rafters. So far, i have had no issues with blade wobble, nice straight and clean cuts. All my tools are Rigid! Thank you
@@paulernandez5382 are you still happy with it? Just put mine together this morning and was looking for a video to clarify a few parts when I stumbled upon this one
@@dylanvelasquez3379 yes, very happy. for now it's put away, but it get allot of use before the cold weather set in. I even used it to cut my vinyl siding, not wobble from the blade
I was going to buy the saw 4221 today it was marked down for a great price at Home Depot(270). I’m happy I stumbled upon your video. Now that’s off the table.
Yes indeed Mike, glad you found it as well. In my opinion all of these should have been recalled.
Wow.. thought I was the only one. I just bought this 3 days ago from Home Depot and thought I was crazy because something felt off , and then I did my first cut on a 2x6 and it started ok but about halfway thru the board it felt like it slowed down, never felt this on my other miter (a 10"ridgid) . I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, I cut the same board on my older 10"Ridgid and it cut smooth and effortless.. tried again on the 12" and blade slowed down significantly during the cut that it kicked back! never happened to me before. I tried it a dozen more times with 2x4, 4x4, 2x6 and it struggled to cut. It also felt like something moving/wobbling while I pushed thru. I didn't try another blade because I didn't want to spend another $50-$60 for something that should work out of the box. I immediately jumped online to look for review/videos and sure enough I wasn't the only one. Thanks for the video, I'm going to lug this this monster back to home depot, shame because the saw came with a free stand which is awesome.
Uh oh. This does not make me feel confident. I just got the same bundle. For $399 I thought it was a heck of a deal. I haven't even taken it out of the box and I'm thinking I might need to take it back. Did you get another rigid or different brand?
I'm be had my my saw of the same model for just over a year now. The better I've gotten at the craft the more I noticed the wobble. I first thought it was the blade. I was wrong. You're lucky you noticed it as soon as you did before the many other things broke like mine. One side of the handles for the bevel slips and does nothing. It continuously needs adjusted on both miter and bevel. And worst of all...the guard gets hyperextended on the down setting and won't come up as I pull down. I've had to take that whole assembly apart numerous times to bend and beat all the parts back straight again just to have it fail again a week or two later. Ive learned how to deal with its many idiosyncrasies but the blade wobble was its final nail in the coffin. Thanks for posting and letting me know I'm not alone.
TatorLauncher Sorry to hear about your bad experience but I am so glad you took the time to share. My hope is that Ridgid sees this thread, and video, and does something about this horrible situation. They consistently did not care to help me out at all through my process, so I’m not sure. Maybe after enough people see this and choose NOT to buy it, maybe then they will reach out. Thanks again for watching and for the comment, I really appreciate it!! 🙏🏻💪🏻👍🏻
Update on my saw. I dropped it off at Home Depot on July 2nd with my laundry list of repairs. When I was getting close to the 90 day mark I started calling inquiring to whatevs up. Admittedly I got jerked around for a few more weeks with the “waiting on parts” routine. But I stayed calm polite and respectful until today, Oct 22 Home Depot called me to let me know there was a brand new saw there waiting on me to pick it up. Bottom line. Satisfied.
Hey that’s awesome!! Sorry it took so long, but at least they are doing the right thing and switching it out for you!! Let me know how the new saw turns out!! Good luck!
I just got a new Ridgid 12" sliding miter saw and the entire saw has a terrible vibration. My old cheap Ryobi is smooth and precise. So glad you posted this video. The company has produced a pile of junk. Unfortunately I was really excited to get this saw and couldn't be more disappointed. Great video and your video on the DeWalt has me considering the options.
The 779 by Dewalt is a great choice but not for tight areas, the saw is huge!!! Check out the Delta Cruzer for a slider that sits flush against a wall. And for something different check out my video on the Evolution saw, I’ve got another video coming as well for their dual miter option. Thanks for checking out the video! 👍🏻
My wife bought me this saw for Christmas 2018 without my input. To be honest, I would have never had purchased it since I always used Dewalts for more beefy cuts and used Hitachi for more pre ision and never would have considered Rigid for a saw. I have a curved staircase where I did a chair rail and backer and also did some faux wainscoting where I was doing 65+ degree cuts, kerfing out the wazoo for arched entrances and also cutting crowns as well. Fortunately, I had none of these problems other than the dust issue. When my wife purchased the item I read all the reviews on home depot's site and I notice that the stand reviews (which is awesome) were included...kind of made me fear the worse, thinking they were stacking the deck on the reviews. I was so concerned I called Rigid and they assured me the wobble problem was fixed (so, they are aware of this). So, come January I assembled everything and I made literally thousands of cuts with a diablo blade and have never looked back. Even making my wife a desk with hardwood maple lumber and maple veneer plywood, as well along with thousands of cuts on the soft stuff moulding material. I am at a loss that so many people have experienced this, but thought I would share my experience as well. For full disclosure, I am not a pro that cuts throughout the day, but I am a skilled DIYer that has done a fair share of cutting with high end and mid-grade saws.
Timothy, I really appreciate you taking the time to write this all out!!! I know some people that had good luck as well, it’s a solid mix of both sides. I am about to post a Dewalt review now, for their 12” Sliding Miter, and it’s been great for me so far. At the end of the day I just wish Home Depot or Ridgid would acknowledge the issue to at least pull the bad models off the shelf. I hope you have continued good luck with your Saw, and I really appreciate the comment and you watching my video!!!
Is the wobble problem only fixed in new versions of the saw or is it something that can be done to fix people who already have the issue?
John McCarthy I am not aware of a fix that’s available other than trying to get ridgid to fix it at a certified repair center.
Great detailed description! I have the same saw but hardly use it due to the saw being humongous, the table it sits on is 25 inch wide but still too narrow, the sliding mechanism to wide to where it hits the wall. Could you do a video on the type of stand your saw is sitting on? Thanks a lot!!
Thank you for such a helpful video! I bought one today (12-06-20) still in box. I’ll look for the serial number and be on the lookout for defects. Earlier I was at Lowes and had a Dewalt on my cart, but didn’t purchased it. I might have to reconsider .
I’ve got a video on the 779 Model from Dewalt as well if you’re interested, that’s what I ended up with and I love it!! Good luck and thanks for reaching out! 💪🏻
So I’ve had my saw for a couple days and after about 8 hrs of use I couldn’t find any wobble in the blade. The only thing I’ve had to do is adjust the alignment for the angle. After reading some comments about the serial number range I checked mine and it’s 1830. Looks like I picked the right one off the shelf is all I can figure. I love the saw though. It’s tough and looks like it’ll last for years with basic maintenance and care like anything else.
Luke - you definitely got a good one man! I wanted to keep mine soooooo bad, it felt weird to buy another brand, but my Dewalt Miter is a beast and I love it!! In the end I’m happy with how it turned out, but definitely wished the Ridgid would have worked out!! Thanks for watching and for sharing your feedback!! 💪🏻🙏🏻
Jesse k I know it’s on a little metal plate, and I think it’s on the underside of the saw. When you do find it it’s one of those “why did they put it here” moments if I remember right.
So I have to say I took my ridged saw back after a few weeks of trying to convince myself that the wobble wasn’t there. It’s just too noticeable even with the “fix” from the factory and correct vin number. I was in Home Depot the other day and saw they had the Dewalt DWS799 for $399 with a free rolling stand. I couldn’t resist it! After 3 weeks of use I’m 100% convinced I made the right decision! This saw is so much better. They have some great deals this week on Dewalt Miter saws too. I’d make the swap. Hope this helps.
Luke Spencer Awesome on the Dewalt!! That’s the saw I ended up with as well!! 💪🏻 I did a video on it too - it was a great deal and the saw has been amazing so far! Thanks for coming back to share - the more stories we can get here the more likely someone at Ridgid might actually see it and care. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving! 🙏🏻
Thanks for the video. I had the same issue with the lock handle. Thanks for saving me the aggravation of figuring out on my own. I'll get back to you if I have wobble issues with the blade.
Definitely interested in hearing how the blade wobble goes, hoping you have good luck!
What to do?...I seem to have serial number 1835...The box is unopened as it was purchased earlier today from HD....As I read more and more and more reviews....What is this oil that is to be applied to the outer washer? Does oil need to be continually applied?
May want to set it up and see if you have the wobble - it’s noticeable right away. They do return the Saw for sure. I know some guys that got lucky and got a good Saw for sure. Let me know what happens and good luck!! Thank you for watching!!! 💪🏻🤘🏻
I’ve been using the exact saw for quite some time now with no issues whatsoever all my tools besides my 14 inch bandsaw is now all rigid only for the last 3 years all my friends say good bye to bananas (dewalt) and hello oranges (rigid) lol and I use my tools from planer to everything in between for my furniture business and I’m 100% satisfied with my rigid tools. Don’t ask me about the life time warranty because I’ve had no issues to try to use it ?
The wrench in the handle got me with my first circular saw. I berated the poor Home Depot guy about it and found it when I got home. I have that exact saw in my shop and use it daily, I have a vacuum and not the bag but I literally have no dust and absolutely love the saw. I also bought it to replace my old Delta which was great but the new one is better. I believe you sir got a major 🍋
Thx for quick response. Returning my new “12” RIDGID…
How is the DWS779 Dewalt functioning? After this vid feeling like it’s the choice, so I’m really interested in feedback
I really loved my 779!! I only sold it because we were moving and building a new house, had to let go of as many tools as possible due to limited storage space. Hands down was my favorite miter saw. BUT I will say, if you are in a cramped spot, check out the Delta Cruzer, because it can sit flush up against a wall, and let me tell you I may be leaning that way for when my new shop gets setup!
I was looking at this saw.... until I saw this video and read a lot of reviews. I'm still looking for a "budget" 12" sliding with dual bevel.... I don't do a lot of cutting, mostly just around my house for renovation and the occasional jobs. Right now, the wife wants to re-do all the baseboard (taller baseboards) and door trims and I don't want to spend more than $350ish on a saw (my 20yr old Craftsman finally bit the dust). What other "budget" saws would you recommend? Is the Ryobi one at HD any good? I don't like any of their hand tools but wasn't sure about the saws... Thoughts?
Check out the Dewalt 779 - got a video on it here. ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html
I'll be doing a video on a light add-on kit very soon as well which is a cheap but great upgrade to the 779
I just got the saw and it works great and is very versatile and easy to adjust for a variety of cutting needs. For the money, I don't think you can beat it. Check out some of the other youtube videos to get a balanced view.
What is the model number for the 12"? Also, what was wrong with the 10"? I was looking for a 12" just because it's bigger but if the 10" works well (dust collection, blade wobble, etc) then I would have no problem getting the smaller of the two. Honestly, I'm only buying Ridgid's warranty. They make good not great products but their warranty beats all.
Kelvin, thanks for the comment!! I didn’t try out the 10” saw myself, but I’ve heard from a lot of people that the 10” is solid and doesn’t have the issues the 12” Slider does. I purchased 2 of them (the 12” Sliders) that both had the same issues. I think I put the model numbers up on the video, but I’m not exactly sure so my apologies if I didn’t. Good luck with the 10” and check out Evolution Power Tools as well, as a newer to the US company, that makes some badass stuff!! Dewalt makes an awesome Slider too!! 💪🏻🤘🏻🙏🏻
Funny I ended up here after watching your review on the Dewalt 12” slider. I was shopping for a replacement for my 12” Rigid compound which has huge blade wobble now but that’s after 12 years of use. My decision was made easier after watching this video and the fact that in my area the Rigid sells for almost $100 more then the Dewalt. I went with the Dewalt slider but I still love my Rigid table saw.
Thanks for the comment!! Love my Ridgid table saw as well!
I agree I do like my ridged table saw
good video we just bought one R4222. The tool( Alan wrench/ Philips head) is in the handle where u would lift it up to carry if needed .Not in the packaging
Hey thanks for the note and for checking out the video!! Did you have issues with your saw?
hey man starting to really plan for van conversions, saw this miter saw at home depot and thought it was a good price. thank you for saving me time frustration and money!
Thanks for the comment and glad I saved you some heartache with this one!! Check out Evolution R255 / Rage 3 or the Dewalt 779 - I love both!
Just an fyi: the dust chute is NOT lower because you bought a sliding miter saw. Throw a 4x4 post on your saw and try to slide your saw forward and the dust boot would come in contact with the 4x4 post. So, thats the reason it's not hanging lower. Now, if this were a non-sliding saw, you could make that dust chute much lower. But, as is, its designed to clear 2x4,6,10,12 material that users would "typically" be using this saw for.
Thanks for the note on that Dan! And thanks as well for checking out the video!
Is model R4222 an improvement?
1/24/21 I picked up the saw, unboxed and set it up in the shop, fired it up and there was the infamous death wobble. I too had been told by the "tool manager" the issue was from last year, a bad product run and there was not problem. He stated the item was selling out quickly.
The blade as provided was not bad but had a slight deflection on my straight edge, so I went got the Diablo Blade, installed it, and guess what, it was worse. Back to Home Depot tomorrow, refund, and go to Lowes purchase the Hitachi Metabo, we currently have 4 of their saws, one 14inch that has been in service for 28 years. Perhaps they are not selling that well as there was 1/4 inch of dust on the box.
Thanks for this comment - proves my point that everyone needs to be aware of this issue and that Ridgid needs to get in front of it and pull the saws, fix the issue, BEFORE continuing to sell this model. Hope you find a saw that works for you - I ended up with the Dewalt 779 - and I'll be doing a video on the light kit add-on as well very soon.
Thanks for this video! Unfortunately I found this video when doing research about why my RIDGID saw has a blade wobble! Super frustrating! And I’m not one to take the time to take something back, knowing I won’t be satisfied on most accounts! Based on your feedback of your conversation with RIDGID, only confirms my suspicions! Of course they have no idea! I went ahead and used the saw to complete a full remodel of the basement. But, though I got through it, if you’re looking for precision, this saw is not for you! And HOLY DUST!!!!!
Thanks Rich! Sorry to hear yours is one of the bad ones... man I wish they’d take action on this and get people some new saws. They know it’s an issue.. that’s why these saws are always on the clearance rack. Good luck down the road and thank you for watching and for taking the time to comment! 💪🏻
Wow! Sorry for your bad luck, but thanks for the video. It doesn't help me in my decision on which to buy, but at least I know now which not to buy.
Where is the serial number? Ive tried googling its location and i think ive found it but would like to be certain.
Also, and its probably a stupid question, but why does it matter that the blades wobbles vibrates? Will that stop it from cutting true/square/straight?
EDIT: I just ran out to the garage to check mine. Purchased it maybe a month ago. I needed/wanted one bad and for $250, basically 50% off, i couldnt pass it up. Anyway, looking down the blade as you did, mine doesn't seem to have even the most minute amount of wobble, but then again this is my first miter saw. Same goes for vibration, how much is excessive?
Its kind of jumpy when i first pull the trigger, but smooths out long before top speed.
My brother is a very skilled machinist, would it be worth it to check the runnout with a dial indicator? Any idea what i should be hoping for?
I could feel vibration that wasn’t normal - almost like an accelerated “knocking” feeing. When I’d cut a piece of wood I could feel the vibration in the wood and almost see the blade skipping a bit as it started to bite into the wood going slow. I’ve read / heard that the blade wobble is a motor issue which is cause by vibration. I’ve also heard some people have the wobble and just don’t notice it really until someone else points it out OR they use a different saw that doesn’t have the problems - and they go AHHHHHH that’s way better!! My Dewalt is night and day different. It’s so smooth and strong, no issues. I hope yours is a good one!! I so wanted mine to be perfect - I tried two of them and just no luck for me!
Thanks for watching and for sharing your story!!! 💪🏻🙏🏻🛠
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Thanks for the reply, but could you tell me where to find the serial number on the saw?
Not sure where on the saw, my guess would be on the bottom of it. I know it’s on the box for sure because that’s how I found them at Home Depot. Starts with an “R” I believe... it’s been a while since I had it at this point - my apologies.
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No worries, thanks again. 👍
Hi guys, surprised by this video for sure. I am in Canada and have a R4513 model that is very similar (a few locking mechanism differences but very similar indeed) and have experienced none of the problems you guys went through with this saw except one. You are so right that the dust collection bag in a joke, its just flat out bad. I hooked the unit into my dust collection system and it is greatly improved but there is still more dust left on the unit than I would like to see. Overall though I am really happy with this unit that I have had for 3 years or so now, sorry you guys experienced the blade wobble situation - that is pretty poor.
Doug - Thanks for sharing your experience with the saw!! I know some people here that have had some great luck with it and others that had similar experiences to my own. I really wish it had turned out better, but I am very happy with my Dewalt saw as it’s treated us very well so far! Plus I’ve got an Evolution Rage 10 in. Miter for all the odds and ends cuts - if you don’t know about them check out my video on their saw as well - it’s a beast - can cut steel, pvc, wood, nail embedded wood, all really well. Maybe we should invent a superior dust collection adaptor and become billionaires? Sounds like a plan!!!!
@@TheToughGuysTV I think the dust collector can't be large or come down like a fixed non-sliding one or else it would hit the material you're cutting???... so attaching a vacuum seems like a must (?)
Picked-up the R4222 saw with “free”stand promo $449 CAN ($358USD) yesterday. Easy setup, straight cuts, no wobble after a few tests. For my use, I’ll never need to buy another.
Glad you snagged one that works great!! A lot of people were lucky, but others like me not so much. Thanks for watching!
Hey Guys, just bought the kit today at Home Depot (it's still in boxes) Canadian $497 + taxes for saw and stand. Seems like a great deal but I see why now. I was just roaming and researching reviews comparing this r4222 to the Dewalt when I stumbled upon this video/review. I do see below where someone else bought the new model and it seems to be working. The newer box actually has an identification on it that reads " New and Improved" and I checked the Bar code number (presumably serial no.) which reads BX1950 - so I'm hoping it's a December 2019 model as described in your video. Not 100% sure what I want to do from this point but I really do like the stand and many of the features of the r4222. Just went through another similar situation in Canada with Mastercraft 12" mitre saw and the junk it was and problems with Canadian Tire as retailer with poor customer service.
If you don’t mind circling back to share if it works well I’d greatly appreciate it! Hoping to keep raising awareness of the issues with this saw so that Ridgid will fix it!! Thanks for watching and I appreciate you taking the time to comment! 🙏🏻
Which stand?? the Ridgid Universal?? that's a good deal, I'm looking at buying a saw but no good deals yet with HD in Ontario yet, Saw is $449 currently, and the stand is $199
I just bought this saw today prior to watching this video. My model# is 4222T and does not seem to have the wobble issues shown on yours. Im also using a 12" Diablo blade and not the stock blade that came with it. Is it possible that the factory blades are just junk? There are some additional differences in the design of the saw between the one i bought today compared to yours. Maybe they have fixed the issues? I made a few cuts to see how far out of alignment the machine was and the dust collection could be better but i had not hooked up to my central vac yet.
I've heard that the issues with the blade wobble may have been corrected but I don't know for sure. How has the saw been working out for you?
@@TheToughGuysTV i have not had any issues. I didnt use the stock blade at all. I installed a new Diablo 12". Ive made probably 3 dozen cuts so far without issue .
I have this saw and the ridgid miter stand utility vehicle. Actually been sitting in storage the last 4 years but just assembled yesterday 😂. I have no blade wobble at all since I tested it today 🤞
Hope your luck continues!! I’ve heard it’s an awesome saw, and the vibration is hit and miss
BTW - re the "MISSING BLADE WRENCH" - It comes from the factory mounted/inserted in the grey rear handle of the saw. It's clearly visible on the extreme right side of the screen at 6:26m and a few other time locations as well. They didn't forget it, they just tucked it into a handy storage place where it's readily available and less likely to get lost... or found? It's location is illustrated on pg 8 of the and is listed among the "Loose Parts" on pg 12. I have the 4221 which was a gift and just set up (months after receiving it because my DeWalt 10" doesn't have the same capabilities) and discovered severe wobble the moment I switched it on. Interesting to read various input remarks as to possible culprits: it seems like a shudder as may be either harmonically induced or blade balance although it's hard to ascertain because in isn't fully constant which led me to suspect it could be a drive train issue such as motor bearings or bushings because it's rather noisy too - that said my Makita 7 1/4" Hypoid is a noisy beast too. Cut surfaces aren't as nearly as badly marked as I had expected they'd be - but I'm sorely disappointed that Ridgid pushed this otherwise superb saw to market without thorough pre-production QA or inline QC production testing. Other than that, I have a lot of Ridgid tools that I'm very happy with, as well as some DeWalt tools that strike me as being a bit over-hyped.
Thanks for the notes and Thanks for watching!
I've had mine just about a year ,no wobble issues,are you sure everything is level? Or possible defect? Honestly love mine and I'm only an amateur not professional so maybe you detected more but I thank you for the video it aided in my husband & I doing a safety check on my saw and so far so good...I wish you happy sawing .
Yeah as far as I know it was defective. I bought 2 saws during my process, and there tons of reviews with the same issue. It’s apparently a motor vibration issue and not an issue with the blades or the arbors. Glad the video helped out and I hope yours stays strong for you!! 💪🏻💪🏻
What is the serial number on yours? Just curious.
I bought this saw yesterday and took it back today. The wobble is still there. Cant believe this yet. THIS POST IS 3 YEARS OLD!
Yeah, it's unreal to be honest. A lot of people just say 'it's the blade'... it's the motor vibration, not the blades. Ridgid just needs to pull all these saws!
How loud is this saw? Thinking of buying this. I know some of them absolutely scream, which isnt ideal for my basement shop
It’s pretty noisy, I personally haven’t had a miter that wasn’t super loud. This one though does have issues w/ vibrations, I definitely can’t recommend this saw.
Just purchased and put together this saw with the matching rigid stand. Haven't cut anything yet. What cuts what you recommend to test if there if blade wobble?
I'd try cutting a 2x4, just something standard. I noticed it immediately - a vibration feeling in the saw - hard to explain in the video, but it was noticeable. The 2nd saw I believe was worse. Good luck with yours!
@@TheToughGuysTV well if the first saw ends up vibrating then I'm gonna go with your recommendation and get the Dewalt saw
I just got it yesterday. Made a farmhouse coffee table. Cut 4x4s, 2x8’s. 2x10s and 2x4s. No one issue. Guess the ones having issues don’t know what’s up.
Was the 1826 or 1831 in the first part of the serial number or the last part. The serial number on mine is really long with letters and numbers at the beginning and end of the serial number and none of the numbers are in groups of four like your 1826, but in groups of five.
Thanks.
If memory serves me correctly it's the end - could be wrong on that, been a bit since I returned these saws. Thanks for reaching out - apologies I can't be of more help!
Thank you for this video! The instructions manual can be confusing. Liked and subscribed!!
I guess that answers your question for the 1st saw they didn't attach a bag because. What's the point.
thanks for video i would have bought this saw yesterday but hd is 110 miles from my house and it was snowing you saved me money and time i will go with milwakee thanks again
Yes!!!! So glad you saw the video and I think you made a good choice!
I watched this video first and then unboxed the saw to use it on some fascia boards. From the serial number it looks like mine was built in 2021 month 26. Funny thing is that it did indeed have a bit of wobble and vibration the first few runs and then it seemed to go away...almost like it needed to wear something in..I'm suspecting that the brake for the motor on previous units was binding and causing the wobble...that would also explain the lack of power in some units as well...I will report back after finishing the project
I have built a couple of cedar/VG doug fir (splinters easily) fence gates with this and I'm not experiencing blade wobble. I used the 60 tooth blade out of the box too...I'm switching it out to a 100 tooth for some interior trim work and will report back. I really do think it has something to do with the motor brake being dialed in too tight on some units. I bought this for $200 on clearance
Thank you very much for this setup/review; this was very helpful to me in setting up mine.
So glad the video helped out! Hope your saw operates well! 🙏🏻
I need to get a miter saw, this is what I was going to buy. What do you recommend instead? I sure like the price point....
I finally got to the end, DeWalt is the choice, huh?
I went with the Dewalt 779 - ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html
Really thank you, your video helped me to a better purchase.
So glad the video helped out! Thank you for watching! 👍🏻
Is the blade wobble still an issue
With these? I was gonna buy one this weekend
That really looked like the blade hole was out of round or not centered. Did you verify with another blade? It didn't look like side to side wobble, looked concentric or not concentric. Just curious mainly... might be a horrible arbor.
Tried different blades and tried two different saws through the video. Definitely a defective product from what I found and per Some extra digging it’s apparently a flaw in the motor - thanks for watching!!
@@TheToughGuysTV Cool. I was considering this or the DeWalt DWS799. I ended up with the DWS799 and am upgrading to the LED shadow light via kit. This video helped me make that decision. That wobble would have been a huge frustration. Great video and thanks! By the way, the blade that comes with the DeWalt was warped on mine. I put a Diablo on it and it ran true. Just in case others see that I thought I'd mention it.
I just watched your demo on 12in Miter Saw. I was considering purchasing one, but now I’m going to hold off and consider another brand even though they are currently on sell.
I've got a video on the channel for a 12'' Dewalt Miter - it's my go-to now, use it almost daily. Check it out if interested! ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html
I had the same problem with the new Skilsaw mag77. PIECE OF JUNK. Went through 3 of them in a week, sounds like there's rocks in the gearbox and awful blade wobble. I got the Ridgid worm drive saw and I LOVE it.
Glad you had a good experience with the Ridgid, you are one of the lucky ones! Thanks for sharing your experience!!
I bought my R4222 saw on March 30, 2022 and used it 1 day and didnt see or feel any wobble or vibrations. But then again I didn't read any reviews before buying it either to know there were wobble and vibration issues. I was more concerned about the blade getting caught in the wood and launching forward like my retired ADMIRAL 12 in. Dual-Bevel Sliding Compound Miter Saw does. So far the R4222 has been fine. But more use is a coming.
Worst thing so far is the small ass manual that comes with it. For $329 plus tax you'd think it would come with a 8.5" x 11" manual.
Hoping you have continued good luck with the saw and thanks for checking out the video!
Woodworking Beginner: Update.
This test is only if you want to saw with precision with a miter saw.(test is not intended for rough and hard work).
Tips and Test:
Very important if you would like to saw with precision. (avoid torsion as much as possible)!
Always choose a Miter saw with a handle positioned in a VERTICAL line above the saw blade.
Everything must be aligned, slide rails, handle, and saw blade,it is much better this way the blade will not tilt.
Because there is some torsion in the aluminum housing .
And choose an engine with softstart on it to prevent wear of the gear and worm shaft.
It is very important that everything is aligned.
Here are some examples to show how the handle must be positioned above the blade.
first option: handle vertical positioned above the saw blade.
Bosch gcm 800 sj / Bosch gcm 8 sjl / Evolution rage 3 / FESTOOL KS 60 / Bosch GCM 8 SDE / FESTOOL KS 60 E KAPEX / Metabo KGSV 72 Xact/ Bosch PCM 8 SD / Hitachi C10FSH / Ridgid MS255SR 10-inch / Evolution Fury3-S / Evolution R255SMS / Metabo HPT C10FSBS / Hitachi C10FSB / Hitachi C10FS.
Second optie: handle horizontal positioned above the saw blade / Evolution R185SMS / Evolution F255SMS / Evolution RAGE3R255 SMS3 .
(This also is the case with the Miter saw without the slide rails).
(If you want). You can test it yourself at home if there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
Step-1. First you make a saw cut from +-5 mm deep in to a flat piece of wood about +- 20 mm thick to this with the normal handle positioned on the right side of the Miter saw (the wood it will remain in place until the test is completed).
Step-2. Then repeat this by pushing the saw blade down with your hand or finger on the aluminum protective cover were the saw blade is cased in. Just now only do this without the running engine.
Step-3. Now you can see if the saw blade will be positioned in or next to the saw cut. If the saw blade is (+- 0,2 / 0,5 mm) next to the saw cut then there is torsion in the aluminum housing.
(test is completed).
Step-4. Therefor it is much better to choose a Miter saw with the handle positioned VERTICAL in line above the saw blade.
The second option is the handle positioned HORIZONTAL in line above the saw blade.
Step-5. When you measure the vertical 90 degrees angle square (Digital Level Box) of you're sawblade don't forget that there is always some torsion in the aluminum housing.
Conclusion: how further away the handle is from the saw blade how more chance of torsion in the aluminum housing, you better not go for that. (the choices are yours).
Also with a cheap slide miter saw it is still better the handgriff in line a above the saw blade than on the right side. Maybe they will make it someday then we have a winner...
Thanks for the long comment!
It'd be interesting to know if it was a unbalanced blade issue. Been watching a bunch of miter saw videos and the general consensus is 10" are smoother while 12" have more vibration and wobble in general. Idk has anyone tried a better blade ?
I tried a couple different blades and two different saws from Ridgid. My understanding per a tool repair shop is that it’s vibration caused by the motor, a defect that Ridgid knows about.
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Glad the video helped you out!! 💪🏻
Thanks for the video. I bought the Dewalt yesterday, the sales guy who knew nothing on the floor recommended the Rigid citing the lifetime warranty as he said "what more do you want" I responded "I want a tool that works lol" I think I made the right choice in part from your videos.
Bro great video love the time put on to this ! Just what I was looking for .
Glad to hear it! Thanks for the support!
I can tell you they know about the problem because I went through the same process you did. I ended up with a Dewalt.
I just picked up a Dewalt myself!! Putting together a video on it currently and so far I love it so much!! I got the 779 model, that’s on sale for $350 right now. I was so disappointed that Ridgid wouldn’t admit there is an issue.. shocked is moreso the better word because they’ve always worked with me in the past. Once I saw how wide spread this issue seamed to be, I figured that I had to document my process and put a video out. Thanks so much for watching!!! 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I just want to echo your comment about completely unplugging your saw when changing the blade. My trigger was accidentally depressed today while I was trying to loosen the arbor. Luckily there wasn’t a blade in the saw. Also lucky I didn’t break any fingers or wrists as the wrench was forcibly ripped out of my hands.
Stay safe.
I just purchased one and so far I love it.
Nice! Hopefully it works out well for you
I've used other (10" saws) previously and was pretty surprised with the speed and cutting ability of this Dewalt saw.I have bolted mine to a table to minimize movement which I highly recommend.This is a Great saw ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe with a light to see your cutting line (not a laser line).I'd recommend this saw fro anyone looking to upgrade from a 10" miter saw.
The miter lock is actually a double click type lock
To unlock it press it twice and it locks up and does not click as you change angles
Thanks, I was about to pick one up the other day but thought I'd do a little research. Disappointing because the features / price really makes it attractive compared to the others.
Chris, I so wanted mine to be awesome. I was so excited to get that saw and I just couldn’t justify keeping it after 2 tries. Some people have had good luck I will say - so if you do love it and you’re willing to make a return, you could always try it out!! Good luck and thanks for watching and for the comment!! 🙏🏻💪🏻🛠
Just great! I bought this tonight..came home and set up and did 1 test cut. Then before I tried to do the work I bought it for...I decided to watch some tutorials on this saw and yours was the first. I sure hope I got a better saw. I bought the R4222 serial #2027 (if i'm looking at the right number)
How did yours end up??
I just got this saw too on sale for 269 at HD. Still in the box. But look at R4251!! Better dust management and space saving sliding mechanism.
Yes!! I've seen that saw as well, the space savings is HUGE!
Do you know if the problem was resolved? I'm looking for a good miter saw
Checkout the Dewalt 779 - I have a video up on the channel for it. That’s what I ended up with and I love it!
@@TheToughGuysTV Unfortunately, the DWS779 has been discontinued. It's not available online or in-store, unless you're OK with paying more than $400 or you can find a good used one. EDIT: I found one at Lowe's for $399.
I just bought one a few days ago as well as other commenters here with the stand deal. I will let you know how it is in a few days when I set it up. By the way I have almost everything Ridgid as well. The tools and service has treated me very well so far but I must admit I heard a lot of horror stories.
How has the saw been for you?? Was wondering if you ran into any issues - people have been asking if Ridgid has fixed the saw. Thanks for reaching out and for your support!
@@TheToughGuysTV As far as I can tell its perfect. I just finished crown on two different houses and on the second one you couldn't get the smile off my face because I knew I had what I needed. Mine (R4222) is a big step up from the other one. I wanna hear from more guys with R4222?????
Well, guess I’m opting for the Bosch axial 12” dual bevel mitre saw.
Glad the video found you before the purchase! Not seen the Bosch but will look it up - from what I know about their products, I'm betting it's amazing! Thanks for the comment!
The best one is the Dewalt DWS779, or 780. Try to find it lightly used on Craigslist, etc. I found a 779, like new for $250 on CL. Awesome saw, man.👍
I went though 4 of them and all had the same wobble, as much as I wanted this saw I finally went with dewalt and love it, good video, Telman who make the comment about being a bad carpenter should learn to spell Ridgid properly
Chris v Man sorry to hear you had to deal wit 4 of them!! I had to cut it off at 2!!! Thanks for the support and for watching!! And to the trolls, I just try to smile and wish them well 🤣😂💪🏻
This was an awesome video. Thank you!
Thanks so much for the feedback! Glad the video helped you out! 🙏🏻
Dude great Video very Informative. That wobble was crazy. I’m in the market for a new Saw and I’m leaning towards Dewalt, I had one in the past and lasted forever.
The Dewalt 779 is a great saw!! The Evolution Rage series is also very strong in my opinion - check out what they are doing as well!
I had the same issue with the saw. I though I was crazy. Blade wobble with new Diablo blade and when making miter cuts on tall material like risers it cuts crooked line 1/8 -1/16 maybe even a 32 but as a finish trim carpenter it makes all the difference in the world
Thanks for this video, I have been looking at this saw at Home Depot and I just made my decision not to purchase it Very Helpful...
I think that’s the best choice!!! Glad the video helped you out and thanks for watching!!
Man, 41,000 potential lost customers. I am in process setting mine up now, I hope I don't experience this issue. Rebuilding a playset, doing flooring and trim on a jobsite (and yes, this is damn heavy), and other random projects as they come. I predict it will be better than a circular saw but you got me on high alert here.
Thanks for the comment and I hope yours doesn't have the issues. I've heard from a few people that it's been fixed, but I can't verify that myself.
Regretably, it actually does wobble. Sad too cuz the built in work light is mighty handy. Good clean feeling cuts but that wobble is just not right.
I just bought mine this weekend so it still has this issue. My older ridgid non slide 12in is awesome. This 4222 vibrates like crazy.
This is probably why I saw this miter on sale for 350ish a month or two ago and now 270 at my local HD, trying to clearance them out.
Very true!! I wish Ridgid would just re-call the bad saws and be done with it!! Thanks for watching!!
Yeah that's why I got mine. What a fool I was. If it's too good to be true, remember that saying?
What table saw comes with a dust bag? Shop vac or dust extractor.
The Ridgid one shows one on the box.. but they don’t sell it? 🤷🏼♂️ Thanks for watching
@@TheToughGuysTV Interesting.
Sad to see that. If that blade is tight, which I'm sure you know how to tighten these. Then it may be shitty bushings or bearing in the motor...that's depressing. Not a fan boy of rigid, but switched to rigid tools after bad experience with another brand. Glad you made this video
Thanks Joseph and seriously I wanted this saw to work out so bad. I tried everything I could think of. I am happy with my Dewalt now, it’s been a workhorse. Thanks for watching and for the comment! 💪🏻
Does anyone know if the problems with this saw have been fixed? Home Depot has a good sale on this particular saw as of 01/07/2023.
Thx for the video. I’m glad saw this before I spent some $$$.
Glad the video helped you out! Definitely not a saw I’d recommend 🙏🏻
THANK YOU SO MUCH, YOU SAVE MY TIME... i am planing to get the dewalt .
victor feliciano you’ll love it!!! I’m so happy I was able to help you out!! I love Ridgid but they bombed with this saw!! I really enjoy my Dewalt - I’ve got a full review on it as well
Dewalt 12in Sliding Miter Saw: Setup & Review ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html.
Thank you so much for watching and for sharing your feedback!! 💪🏻🙌🏻🙏🏻
Thanks for the review man.
Thank you for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
Uhoh... I just got one of these for Christmas. Hopefully they got all the kinks worked out...
@FearHopeLoveJoyFaith On my model they tried to fix the sawdust collector. It's much lower. So there's that.
At least they fixed that a bit, because it was terrible.
I've not heard that they have fixed anything yet "officially" but there's a ton of people defending their saws in the comments, so who knows.
Wow thanks dude u saved me I have a 10 inch dewalt love it but I’m thinking of the 12 inch dewalt or the Hercules, which I heard is amazing for the money..
I ended up w/ the Dewalt 779 12" Miter, I sort of wish had gone with the 10" but it's all good. Glad the video helped you out! I've got a video up on the 779 if you're interested. Also, about to be doing a new video on the light kit add-on for the 779 which saves a TON of money compared to upgrading to the 780. Thanks again!
@@TheToughGuysTV thank you so much brother, I have the DW717 discontinued , I love it but I can’t find a left fence for the love of god, that one of the reason why I wanna upgrade . So your saying the 10 is better?
I purchased the very same saw on Dec 11th 2020. Had my contractor set it up on the stand that goes with it but sold separate $129. Today is Dec 20th, I am returning the saw and the stand. It is a monster. Way too much saw for me as I am a female and really am over powered by this monster. Purchase a 10" Ryobi and stand. Think is will be a better choice for me.
I recently saw the Ryobi 7-1/4in Cordless Miter at Home Depot, and I was very impressed by how small, light weight, and versatile it was. The 10in is a great choice as well!! The only reason I went with the 12" is because we do a lot of cutting of larger planks or 4x4 / 4x6 lumber, so it made sense for us. Hope your purchase works out well and thanks for watching!
@@TheToughGuysTV LOL, I originally purchased the 7 1/4" Cordless Ryobi Miter saw on Dec 9th, it was too small so took it back on Dec 11th, that's when I purchased the "Behemoth' 12" Ridgid. Oh, and at the same time I purchased the 7 1/4" Ryobi, I purchased the Ridgid stand...if you haven't seen the stand for the 12" Ridgid, it is just at massive. That little 7 1/4" sitting on that stand looked like a walnut sitting on the Golden Gate bridge! So the stand and the saw both were returned. I am happy with the 10" Ryobi sliding compound and the Ryobi stand. Oh by the way, thanks for telling me where the allen wrench for the 'monster' was. My contractor and I thought the same thing you did, it didn't come with one. Luckily I have several. The only thing that Ridgid has going for it it that is that is its BIG...BFD! So if you are Big Foot, I have a saw for you! Carol Poznik.
Like to suggest.....
Before you rip open the top lid as in this case; think .
The easiest way of unpacking this type of product or any other product that is heavy; especially on your own is to TILT the box, cut the bottom tape tape and edge by edge fold back the flaps as you set the box back down. Slit partially the top tap seal to let air in.
Then lift the box of of the internal pack. Don't try and lift the contents out of the box. Take care of your back.
Good advice - Thanks for sharing! And in this case since I got 2 saws, and both were awful, I could’ve saved my back more than once! 💪🏻
This video is so timely. Thank you so much.
Steve that’s awesome!!!! Glad I could help with your decision!! What did you end up buying??
Gonna get the Dewalt 779...probably today since its on that sale. My neighbor is sold on Rigids, and I do like the guarantee thing myself...but not something that comes with a wobbly blade that spews saw dust everywhere! I am interested if you know if the parts that are in the new 780 can be easily swapped on the 779?
Not sure about the part Swaps, but I’m pretty sure I’ve got the 779 myself - did an unboxing and setup and I still have it and love it. I don’t have the led light - as far as I know that’s the only option I lost. Also, Lowe’s switched the 32T blade for a 60T blade for me no charge when I bough it which was cool of them.
Link to video ruclips.net/video/E7bYeWNLY78/видео.html
Thanks again for watching and good luck with your new Saw!! 💪🏻🛠
Very helpful video. I know it’s tough to explain so many features on a saw but this was helpful. Thank you
Thank you Tommy, much appreciated for the feedback!! Thanks for checking out the video! 🙌🏻