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Platinum 3776 vs Natami Inception Comparison Review
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- This Platinum 3776 with a music nib is on loan from Jack Hernandez. I've already done a review of the pen which is linked below, but while I have it in my possession, I wanted to compare it to the Natami Inception I bought in 2019 as a very close copy of the 3776. I talk about the parts and features of the pens, provide some size comparisons and comparison measurements, and then do writing samples. After the writing samples, I talk about what I like and what I don't like about the pens. Please feel free to use the chapters provided below to skip to various parts of the review.
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Chapters:
Start 0:00
Introduction 0:29
411 on 3776 2:43
411 on Natami 6:11
Compare Parts and Features 7:36
Size Comparisons 16:34
Measurements 18:08
Writing Samples 18:24
Likes and Dislikes 23:40
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isn't it fascinating how things work sometimes? This video went live this morning and around mid-day, I received a notification from my CamelCamelCamel (watches for Amazon products to hit pre-selected price targets) about a Platinum 3776 Bourgogne with a coarse nib that I had set a price target for. It hit that target and I picked the pen up for $150 Cdn which is around $118US. It is on its way from Japan. I won't hold my breath, but it is exciting and timely!
Interesting comment from my review - Franks Vars - The Natami "Flight of time" is the clone of the Platinum Century 3776 Nice.
Platinum started its activity in 1919: on the ring of the Natami cap there is engraved 1919. Platinum dedicates its pen to the French city of Nice: in 1919 the American journalist Herman Bernstein was in France to attend the Paris Peace Conference. Berneistein wrote "The flight of time and other poems": the writing "The flight of time" is the one on the Natami nib, without "the" on the cap.
Cool information! Now I have to look for a NICE pen LOL
Love this Natani… and the Platinum 3776, of course! Own 5 Natami and 1 Platinum (SF) 😮
❤️ your videos ! THANKS.
Glad you like them!
I'm just goin to keep rewatching your old videos, going rouuunnd and rouuunnd in hopes that you'll one day return with more video gold. miss ya, Pen-Daddy.
Tomorrow, Dean!
@@InkquiringMinds whaaa???😍😃👑 yahoo!!!
It is always such a joy to watch your reviews. Your analyses in comparing pens allow me to make quicker judgments when purchasing at the store, which is quite necessitous during these times. Bravo!
I'm so glad! Thank you, STeeBee E!
Thank you for another excellent video. I fell in love with the Japanese music nibs, and have the 3776 in a variety of nib sizes from UEF to Music.
My pleasure!
I just saw one of those gathered 3776s on eBay recently. I wondered who would buy that and now I know. Thank you for the afternoon break!
Thanks, Amy. I think the "gathered" 3776 looks very cool! I like the longer section at least.
Mr Indi, a very informative video 👍Thank you for all the hard work you put on to collect information for us.🙏 Both pens look very pretty. Yama budo ink complements the natami pen.👍
Thank you so much 🙂
Hi Doug! Very interesting comparisons and overview. I really like the faceting on the Inception very much. It's quite lovely. I can't wait for you to get your 3776 with the coarse nib and tell us what you think of that nib. I have the same pen in every respect. It creates HUGE lines. It's quite fun. Yay for CamelCamelCamel working for you. I need to do that as well for a few items. Have a great evening! Stay warm and healthy! Thank you
Oops! My mistake here.
Thanks, Annie! No worries!
That music nib 🙌 really makes music on the paper ✒️🎶👌
Thank you for the video Doug.
Glad you enjoyed it, Jorge! :)
The visconti is much smaller than I expected. Thanks for the review Doug!
Thanks for watching! Yes, especially the #5 size nib. The Rembrandt has the larger nib and I think it balances the size of the pen better.
I keep looking at pricing of 3776 on all various sites-an interesting adventure keeping track of exchange rates, stock pricing, color popularity, nib option popularity, shop discounts ... but I’ll be ready when my deal comes along so thanks for great reviews! Love the scritchy 3776 nib👍, scritchy not to be confused with scratchy nib👎, or scrunching which is sound of your boots on cold snow walking to mail box or to school ... sound informing you how cold you’ll be in a few blocks without proper attire (not a wonderful sound if walking far but I get nostalgic for Alberta when I hear it). oh the scrunching of snow at the gloaming of the day! How long does it take to freeze fountain pen ink in a jacket pocket or backpack at say -35C? In watercolors it’s best to use vodka rather than water at those temps, if god forbid the scene inspires painting at such temps. Hmmm mixing ink with vodka to explore & document the frozen north without changing pen choices? I wonder how Franklin did it-did he leave a frozen pen next to a journal filled with scrunching scribbling?
If the ink in my fountain pen freezes while in my pocket, I'm a dead man. Cold dead man. :)
This model is called the flight of time. Natami inception is another model with a hooded nib. This pen is said to be able to take a 3776 section and nib with no problem.
With false information everyone it is so hard to even get the name wrong. I used "Inception" because that is how I bought it.
Always love the comparisons.
I think it really helps to compare two pens with each other - especially for relative sizes. Photos are so deceptive.
Muy buena comparativa. El Natali aún se consigue en Aliexpress y me parece que es una buena opción para ampliar la colección. Particularmente me gusta el color rojo que usted usa en la revisión y consideraré comprarlo. Cordial saludo.
No reviewer gives justice to Value for Money Copycat pens as much as you do !
BTW I’m hoping against hope that my dream of owning Platinum’s flagship 3776 becomes a reality sooner or later.. A seller’s website advertised a Platinum 3776 Buorgogne for 100 USD here in India and I’m waiting for it to be delivered with my fingers crossed !
Thanks, I think. Congrats on the 3776!
@@InkquiringMinds Thanks, I think ( since I’m yet to receive it ) 😉
really interesting Lucky you about your Platinum 3776 love your videos entertaining and informative !!!!
Glad you enjoy it!
Excellent compareview !
It answered all of the questions I had... except the one unanswerable questions all Canadians have : WTF Canada Post ! what I've you done with my recent packages, put them in a concrete mixer for two weeks to make sure they arrive late and crushed ?
Canada Post has certainly had their challenges lately!
Hi Doug glad to hear your getting your 3776 in double broad its a great pen i never loose the anticipation when i pick it u to write the double broad nib is a dream.The Natami looks a lovely pen for everyday writer & at the moment i can get it for 19 usd including shipping is it worth it on its own merits though.l am not a pen poster so that doesn't bother me,i be intrested in your opinion Doug.O nearly forgot GREAT REVIEW👍
Thanks 👍
I have all the Natami colors and love them. I also have two 3776.
And your 3776 is better than all of your Natamis I expect?
@@InkquiringMinds I have a music nib on my Carnelian red and use it for music notes actually. I don’t really compare these pens much. I use them all. Like your, I’m a huge Penbbs fan but I have fp pens of all types.
Thanks for the review! I was thinking of getting the natami myself, if only for the cool nib graphic. I have both the century and gathered 3776 as well. I just want to point out that the gathered is more of a "heritage" model for platinum, remaining essentially the same (save for a few changes - nib and the number of ribs on the body), so it will have some design "flaws" which may not suit modern tastes (cap feels loose - kind of like a Lamy studio, no slip n' seal, and the pen just rattles all around), but despite that, I pick it up every time over the Century for how comfortable and ergonomic it is, with the snap cap and longer body, and especially the longer section.
Looking forward to your thoughts on your very own #3776!
Especially the longer section - that's what I'd be interested in.
My 3776 is a perfect size for my hands as I have pretty small hands as a guy. I write with it unposted but I still love it posted as well. It was also my first ever gold nib pen.
Thank you, Generic Asian #68301648!
Great review and I loved the 5 minute commercial..it allowed ne to warm up a slice of pizza. Haha
😁 Wow! A five minute commercial? I have to wade through those as well. LOL
I just saw the Natami Inception. I already have the 3776. For the price the Natami seems to be a good value (converter not withstanding). I am surprised that it does not post well. It seems like it should. The nib sounds great, though.
Would you get it again?
I think I would get the President. It seems significantly larger to the 3776.
No I wouldn’t. The President is much better than the 3776.
You did sell me on the Platinum Music Nib! (I have only one other Japanese music nib.)
It really is an interesting experience.
It's funny, I've seen these pens in Bobby's store all the time, but never really gave them a second look... Now that I look more closely, the Natami in light blue kind of peaks my interest. Might be a nice pen to ink with something like Diamine Marine, which has recently become one of my favorite inks.
The F-nib isn't really my thing, but it looks like a pretty standard size, so maybe I can put a spare Jowo BF nib in it.
Maybe I missed it in your review - would you say the Natami is a good eyedropper option?
At the same time, I already have a few yet-to-be-inked pens, and two Ranga's (8B and 4C - couldn't choose!) in the mail, so maybe I should hold off for now.
Thanks Michael. No. The Natami, like the 3776 cannot be used as an eye dropper due to the metal in the section.
Wow! This pen is luxurious and oh! Nib is 18K gold! Beautiful! ♥️♥️
It really is!
Excellent Review as always! I wonder how often a converter breaks in a pen at that location. Never heard of it!
You and me both!
I had a Parker "deluxe" converter break in just that way in a Parker 45, uninked, brand new converter. Ever since I've used Lamy z26/z27 converters or vintage parker squeeze converters in my Parkers.
Doug another interesting comparison video. I have a 3776 and find it very satisfying to write with for all of the reasons you noted, albeit I have a fine nib.
A slightly unrelated question, you showed a penbbs 308 galaxy in the size comparison. I just received the same pen a couple of days ago. Interestingly the cap band shows the model as a 266. Do you know if the 266 became the 308 or what the difference might be as the retailer advertised it as a 308 / 266.
Thanks again for the video.
Richard
I think the history of that 266 cap band goes back to when the pen was originally designed and built. It was the 266 and had the cap threads on the end of the section. They redesigned it to the way it is now and changed the model number to 306 but didn't change the die or stamp or whatever machine makes the cap bands. So it remains 266 on the band.
I have a 3776 Century with a SF nib. It'll take a long time to get it as smooth as I like my pens. I prefer buying used vintage-y 3776 models that are already smooth. The model with rings pops up in Taiwanese buy and sell groups quite a lot (starting around CAD 135 with the JIS symbol on the nib). I like the Natami because of its nib that is a great fit for my writing style and the price point is attractive too.
I have a 3776 with a Coarse nib on the way.
@@InkquiringMinds Will you do a review of that?
@@yuklimka7251 Absolutely!
@@yuklimka7251 Absolutely!
I'm impressed that Meg Ryan and Haruo Umeda co-starred in your video ;-)
I doubt they'd star together! :)
Another great review.
I appreciate that! Thanks, Dick.
I love my 3776 pens. I especially appreciate the soft fine nib on one of them that writes superbly.
I had one on the way (Bourgogne with a coarse nib) but it got destroyed in shipping.
good info, thanks
Glad it was helpful!
Very good review. But I would say that Platinum nib is unique and feels scratchy especially if you are using it on cheap paper. I have burgundy one and the first one feels scratchy even on a better paper usually used to print packing slips. So I asked for a replacement and the replacement is very smooth on that better paper but a little bit scratchy on the cheap one. Also you can get an adapter which will let you use short international cartridges
Thanks for the info!
I heard Diamine pronounced both ways, but I remember one youtube vid said they asked the company and they said they pronounce it dayah-mine, not daya-mean. I'm now confused.
Oh, and an excellent video as always, edutainment gems ;)
Yeah. A member of my pen club spoke to Diamine recently about a custom ink we are planning for our group. He asked them the proper pronunciation and they said Di A MINE as in coal mine.
@@InkquiringMinds aha... So you were trawling to see if we're listening, eh? ;)
I know Bobby does nib work, but does he tune the nibs for all the pens he sells? Like your Natami?
I seriously doubt it. You have to pay him for custom nibs. I just bought his last #5 size architect grind for $14 and now his price has shot up to $1000 per nib. That just means he's out of stock until he makes another batch.
I use Yama Budo with my 3776 and Saphire is my favorite blue ink. Always have them in my active pen rotation. Currently, the Saphire is paired with Platinum Vicoh. Just love to write with the Platinum
Thank you, thomasbudi2000!
I have the Platinum President and 2 Platinum 3776 pens (one with “M” and one with “Broad” nib), but I do not have a Natami. Interestingly, Platinum could perhaps enforce its patent in Japan (as to the “slip & seal”), but I am not sure whether the patent is a design patent or patent of the engineering (the latter, if unique, novel, useful, could be patented internationally). Intellectual property is a topic I just touched upon in classes I taught. None of us who are engaged in a more generic practice of law are ever really experts in patent law. Plus, recall that I have not actively practiced law for the past 30 years. My main point is that some of these mechanisms are not as innovative as one might think. Mere looks are not protected (except in countries that provide “design” patents, which Japan does or at least has previously provided for its own market). Why Natami wants the pen to look so like the platinum. They could easily differentiate their own fountain pen from all others.
There are a LOT of unknowns here. I have no idea WHO Natami is. I suspect it is yet another "brand" given to a line of pens made by one of the big three; Hero, Wing Sung (or Wing Sung) or Jinhao. Trying to sue a Chinese company for international patent violation could be fraught with protracted legal difficulties and hence not worth the effort.
Good review ! I´m curious if it´s possible to change nib between the two. I ´m guessing not, but still wonder.
Since the 3776 doesn't belong to me, we won't find out either!
Sir Doug, I saw a picture with someone who makes nibs that are stacked, even stacked by three or more. I forgot the name though, but he makes incredible nibs
Edit: Oh wait Sir Doug, I found it, checkout Regalia Writing Labs, they might interest you Sir Doug
Thanks for the info! It looks like they aren't making them anymore as there entire collection is sold out.
Doug, would you consider the Platinum 3776 the 🍎 or the 🍊? I think that I would consider the Natami a poorly constructed “poseur” ! 👍🇨🇦
Well since the Natami is apple red, I'll call the 3776 the orange!
12:08 The Natami nib has two tines so surely the music nib on the Platinum has three tines?
Yeah. I misspoke. Two slits, three tines.
Aesthetically, the President doesn’t do it for me and neither the length of the barrel nor the width of the section on the 3776 causes me a problem: so it’s always going to be 3776’s for me; know exactly what you mean about it’s distinctive feedback: it’s addictive!:)
It is very addictive!
Nice review! I have to say, the Chinese inexpensive pens are nipping at the heels of the Japanese in some ways. Thanks for the laughs with Monty Python and Meg Ryan 🤣
Thanks for watching, Shahriar! A viewer just pointed me towards a new Wing Sung 628 14k nib pen that looks like a MB 146 or 149. So it isn't only the Japanese that are getting the pressure.
@@InkquiringMinds I saw that model too. I would love to see a review. It may be a great pen deal!
I’ve written to Bobby asking for size equivalents. I can’t tell if it is MB 146 or MB 149 size.
@Shahriar Farkan I just got a note back from Bobby about the WS628. It has a #5 size 14k nib but the rest of the dimensions are very close to the MB 149 although unposted it is 6mm shorter (only 3mm shorter posted) and it weighs 10g less, which makes sense as it is not a piston filler but CC.
@@ShahriarFarkhan I've bought one and it is on the way.
Recently someone in FPN suggested that the Moonman logo is best translated as "the heat (meaning passion) of writing"
Thanks for this! I had figured something was lost in translation.
I would translate it as “experience the warmth of writing”
Doug. A Platinum 3776 or Visconti mirage Mars? Advice from the sage, please.
Definitely the 3776!
@@InkquiringMinds many thanks Doug!
The Natami nib actually imitates the relatively rare platinum 18k nib used on some 3776s.
Wow! I've never seen that! Very cool.
Damn you, Doug! Now I have to get a Platinum President and a Natami. Do you have a usable discount code?
I only have discounts for Appelboom and Cult Pens! You can find them in the description. :)
@@InkquiringMinds, I already ordered the Natami. Now I’m going to shop around for the Platinum
@@InkquiringMinds, I had already used the Cult Pens discount, so I used another email to use it again. I ordered the Bourgogne in medium.
@@oscarmedina1597 I just bought a 3776 Bourgogne (coarse) on Amazon for $118US.
@@InkquiringMinds, I got mine for $126. (Don’t like broad or coarse nibs.)
Thank you Sir
Most welcome
Classic "Harry Met Sally" - So which pen is faking it? I'll have what she's having!
The fake pen is faking it! LOL
Every time someone tells me, definitely, this is how to pronounce Diamine... it's a different pronunciation. I prefer to believe they're a small Italian firm named dee-AH-mee-Nay.
Maybe it is Canadian? Di ah meen eh?
Dye - A - Mine*
Mine like "coal MINE"
CMIIW 😀👍
I'm pretty sure that's what I said. :)
A fountain pen with a cap that can’t be posted! Outrageous- grounds for divorce. Just look 👀 at a Waterman Carene, arguably the most beautiful pen of all time. I rest my case. Humph.
I LOOOVE my Waterman Carène and the way it posts and feels in the hand.
Doug, have you tried a Jinhao 9056 with a natural wood finish. Picked up one with an Ebony finish, gold accents, posts well - bin ones that don't.
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@@MrAndrew1953 LOL Perhaps the short fuse is the problem with the garage door?