sad asd well i own a gh5 and i shoot myself most of the time. Af could be better but i always get the job done. No other camera has the 6k photo mode and i love it. I do all my self portraits with it. I set it to face detection, start the camera and here we go. It never disapoints me. I was thinking about buying other cameras but 6k mode too important for me. A gh5 is a really good hybrid cam even if it has no canon af. But in photos panasonic af is very very good and for video it is good enough. I will be a happy s5 owner soon
@@sebastiank7956 Huge agree. The two best value for time spent RUclipsrs. Little or no skateboarding around the studio, just 90 percent of the stuff you wanna know and done.
Video Timestamps for you lovely people! 0:00 Intro 0:31 Sensor 1:09 Body, Stabilization and I/O 4:01 Resolutions and Frame Rates 8:26 Anamorphic and V-Log 9:10 Autofocus 12:02 Audio 12:42 Other Video Features 13:30 Final Recommendations
Add them to the main description and RUclips will create chapters in the timeline :) We do that for our videos. No need for parenthesis. We shoot all our videos on S1H, GH5 and GH5S. But very tempted at Sony now with the a7SIII coming. What will the future hold for the a7IV? And why doesn't Sony offer shutter angles!
Caleb: Another good one. The autofocus is clearly not ready for primetime or competitive with Sony and Canon but it does show clear improvement. Despite the mico HDMI this is another bold shot by Panasonic for a ton of value in a cost competitive body.
@@TheOneMonk Well, vloggers or wannabe vloggers make a good part of these guys' fans... I'm a film student myself and want a camera for videography; short social media ads, videoclips and so on
@@PVMMAC I liked him in the beginning, he was funny and down to earth...but then I got frustrated from his continuous Canon adverts. I bet my balls he's a sponsor/paid promoter of Canon, and I just can't keep watching him while he ignored all the great Sony, Panasonic, Fuji and Blackmagic cameras :(
I just bought one but hasn’t shipped yet. My first full frame. Was considering Z5, Z6, R6 and A7iii. In the end, IBIS, fully articulating screen and a great deal won me over for thé S5. I currently have a Canon M50 and Nikon D5500. I consider my new S5 a huge upgrade.
So far, have loved filming results with the S5 tests we are doing. We won 28 awards making a short film with the GH5s and so this will be interesting to see what it can do for the sequel ... 🙂
Im in love with this camera 😍 I dont care a lot about autofocus tracking as I am more a photographer than a videographer. And I love my gx80 and Panasonics ergonomics and Menus 😍
That autofocus definitely seems improved! Still sad it's DFD and not phase detect; it's hard to consider Panasonic's offering without keeping that in mind
I have no idea about the relationship between Sony and Pana in depth, but can you image if Sony gave their juicy PDAF sensors to Panasonic? They would ruin their own video market. Panasonic is insanely valued as seen by the GH5/s, and even their tiny cameras that can record 4K for a long time. If the GH5 came with the lighting quick AF... Imagine how much juicier it would be, and surely it would eat up some Sony sales.
I just don't understand Panasonic. They already have their nice full frame line. The lenses are so expensive that I have no idea who would buy a starter camera with this expensive mount. Meanwhile us m43 shooters are left in the dust. No meaningful updates/upgrades in a long time. Where's the GH6? Rant done. You're video was informative and great as always.
Guess they back to micro4/3 at 2022year.. next year they trying to fight with Canon and Sony and lest playing with L-mount. Phones has smaller sensor than micro but it's makes able make more AI post processing in camera faster. Raw, vlogs and so on are cool.. but time costs more and more... I don't have time for prostproduction.. I need to work faster and make money but not playing with super cameras for narrative feature.. unfortunately
Makes you wonder if they are pushing as many M43 users to this mount, then coming back with a M43 mount in a little while for those who don't switch...Apple does this kind of marketing all the time (new and better model, but underpowered, then a more powerful model 6 months later).
This video has really opened my eyes to a compelling option! I have been teetering on the Lumix G9 vs. future Z6s vs. XT-4. So, why not add a 4th to further muddle my procrastinating brain.
RUclips just recommend me a tonnes of videos about the s5, but yours is the first one I chose, thanks man for convincing me about the s5, I was just about getting the a7iii.
2020 might be a year to forget but what a time to be in the market for a new camera. So many good options to choose from, not to mention cameras like the GH5, G9, and X-T3 seeing discounts! Great review as always, Caleb!
Soooo tempting but I'm sitting on my hands until the official GH6/s announcements because I've got a whole lot of nice M43 glass at this point and M43 still feels like it gives me more bang for the buck when it comes to optics.
Lol I just read a article with a Panasonic guy literally saying they are still considering a gh6...which means it’s still not even in development. A gh6...if at all...is not coming anytime soon
@@RandomMotoThings I read the interview as well. You're talking about an interview translated pretty poorly from Japanese. "Regarding the replacement model for the GH camera that you asked about, I will inform you but the information may be spread. Of course, we are considering it, and we look forward to seeing you there." Look forward to seeing you there. The rumors have been out for quite awhile that the GH6 announcement was coming this fall. You think that the GH6 rumors were about... the S5?
@@michaelcroff7097 I think I decided to stick with MFT and go with the GH6. The S5 felt like too many sacrifices from a usability perspective--it depends so much on external recording capabilities then sticks you with a micro HDMI and a screen that can't articulate when you've got the HDMI port in use. To me as a run and gun, a flexible workhorse GH6 wins out over the modestly superior dynamic range and low light capability of the S5. I don't really film myself so I'm happy to stay with the Panasonic value proposition, even if it means the AF isn't stellar.
This is the first full frame camera to make me seriously consider buying it. The price is right and it hasn't been beaten to death with the cripple hammer.
To me the question here is how to think about the Blackmagic after the S5 raw comes out. The BMPCC4K looked like a pretty good upgrade path from the GH5, but now the plot thickens.
That might depend on what lenses you use, too. If you typically use Canon or other full frame lenses on a Speedbooster, the S5 makes sense with an adapter as you dont need new lenses. But if you have mostly m43 native lenses, you'll need a bunch of new lenses for the S5.
@@raksh9 Certainly a factor. I've got some nice native glass for MFT and that was a consideration with looking at the BMPCC4K for sure. But I'm covered with FF too, and there's the Metabones XL which gives you close to FF on the MFT. I've got a lot of options to sort through but I guess that's one of those good problems. I will say this is a lot of camera for two thousand bucks.
Too totally different ballparks imo. Black magic has a certain look to its imagery that i think still separates itself from mirrorless cameras imo. Also, braw is very efficient and has multiple codec options. It’s much better than pro res raw in terms of flexibility and options so it’s not quite the same. Also keep in mind, it’s raw is ALL internal. No atomos needed. I think the S5 would be a good complimentary camera to the pocket 4k and 6k I’m actually thinking about it.
@@RandomMotoThings Well, that's just it. All these bodies have a mix of strengths and weaknesses and in the end it's what's the best fit for the individual shooter. I may rent this and the BMPCC, see how they feel in use, then send them back and play with the files I get and see if there's an obvious way to go.
Thanks... We are having a lot of "Camera (features)" in those new entry level FF mirrorless : Panasonic S5, Nikon Z5... Happy to see camera makers are coming with interesting tools for us to enjoy photography. In the of techs the future look promising for next updates : Z6, Z7, S1,... RP, R Thanks.
You know what we all want.......GH5, GH5's and S5 comparison and if it's worth to upgrade. Only thing I don't like about it is not having 2 UHS II slots since I upgraded to all UHS II to dual record.
If Canon and Sony can create amazing autofocus, it can’t be that hard to make theirs better. Take out the contrast af, just make something new please!!!!
@@yorgoszervoulakos7136 that tax rule was dropped some time ago. Now they are just either very conservative with heat management or it serves product segmentation.
I liked your autofocus test, overall, top notch review. If I were to get into full frame cameras, I believe I would go with this S5. I'm already been a Panasonic GH4 owner for nearly 5 years.
Entry level camera? This thing has a cinema camera sensor inside of it. I think A LOT of reviewers are REALLY downplaying how incredible this camera is at $2,000. Ok the autofocus isn’t great but my XT3 autofocus isn’t great either and we’re just going to ignore the fact that this will do 5.9k prores raw externally, 14+ stops dynamic range, IBIS dual native ISO, AND it can shoot pictures and NOT overheat come on now!
Thank you for the good video. I am in S.Korea and English is my 2nd language, but your good pronunciation and detailed explanation are good enough for me to understand. Thumbs up !! Sir, do you think the quality of images by X1500 is worse than S5? Mostly I make videos of street food. It needs fast AF and deep depth. So I also consider the Panasonic X1500 camcorder. However, I also consider a good quality of images and filming inside of restaurants or filming in the evening. Because of these 2 matters, I hesitate to choose X1500. I do not color correction after editing at Premier Pro. My style is quickly filming, editing, and loading on RUclips. In this aspect, the X1500 is good for me. May I look forward to your reply?
Is there a way to record 4 channels of audio simultaniously if you use the flash socket XLR-adapter? Or is it limited to 2ch either via 3.5mm jack OR the XLR-Adapter? Thanks
Caleb man. I love U. Gh5 user and i am a bit Concern about this late camera Fever around 4000 Dolars. I used a Gh4 and Gh5 and always tempting to change to sony, but this camera its perfect for The price. Nice review as always
I’m looking to upgrade my camera from my trusty DSLR with a focus on video. This cameras seems to have the best features for my budget…but how does it do with still photos?
One more thought; would you recommend jumping from the A7iii to the S5? It feels a little lateral, but (on paper) you still get some really good video upgrades, obviously the biggest being anamorphic.
The ALTSON EF-L Mount Converter enables the use of Canon EF-mount lenses on L-mount mirrorless camera bodies, and maintains full lens performance, including autofocus in AF-S mode, as well as in-camera correction and image stabilization technologies.
Hi! I have a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. Partly because my lack of experience in the professional camera realm and partly because of the lack of information out there. I want to buy a Lumix S5 and I also need a lens for it. I want to film super wide angle at 4k60 ( so the image will be cropped ) and I am looking for a lens that will give me roughly the same image as an iPhone 11/12/13 on the ultra wide camera in video mode ( iPhone crops in ultra wide video mode ) and from what I understand the focal length of the ultra wide on the iPhone is 13mm ( in photo mode ). What lens should I buy for the S5 ( preferably prime ) for this effect aka iPhone ultra wide video mode ( 13mm cropped ). Thanks 😐
Nice review, Caleb! I had my fingers crossed for no crop 60fps on this camera... Really wish Panasonic could find a way to include that on their full frame cameras.
Oh yeah... One of the big takeaways from this S5 is the fact that if Panasonic can do this much in a tiny full frame camera, you know they can go absolution ape with MFT...
Really, really good review. Watched the Gerald Undone review of the S5 and it really put me off this camera, yet gave a glowing review of the Sony A7SIII a few weeks ago....this seemed much more balanced and gave a whole lot more of what the camera can do. Thanks!
No answer.... Yeah these big YTubers can’t keep up with the comments and questions. They d need an assistant . Which is too bad because we lose touch with them or the opposite. Now it’s like watching TV and trying to call the tv station asking to talk to the producers!
I am selling my A7iii to get the S5 ❤️ I have lost my will to shoot and create after I left the Canon 5D3 and went for the Sony. But I know from my 4 other Panny's that the S5 will bring back the joy of shooting 🙏🥰
entry level?! my first camera was the Sony FDR AX33 which is basically worse than current day iPhone. I think this camera deserves more credit, the only fall back is the auto-focus which advanced cameras such as REDs don't even have...
@Daniel Tomczak that’s unfortunate because there’s a lot more to video than that crop. MOST movies are filmed with super 35 sensors. For video this shouldn’t be that much of a issue I just think people get too enamored with the “full frame hype”. I think super 35 is more than sufficient and the most important thing imo should be image quality, codecs, raw, video tools etc. To each is own though I respect the opinion
The camera looks great, but the auto focus pulsing that is still present is just disappointing. The two things that makes me hesitate to upgrade from the GH5 is that they have improved the autofocus, but not enough to compete with Sony or Canon, and that L-mount kinda sucks in comparison to Sony's robust lens system. It's going to be a hard choice between saving money for this camera or going with the Sony a7s iii for $1300 more. I just wish they'd announce the GH6, because I really do not mind working with MFT.
@@neelixramirez9411 They did, but that could mean 3 months from now or 3 years. I read an interview with someone from Panasonic who basically didn't want to discuss GH development beyond "We haven't abandoned it." Sadly I'm getting a point where I may have to jump ship.
In apsc mode the focussing seems better, and than you are still using a larger sensor area than with mft. You'll need wide angle ff glass or apsc glass though.
Michael Schagen Might be better, but still not great or even good compared to their major competitors. I’m through defending Panasonic’s terrible autofocus.
Well, I was looking to spend some surplus money on a full-frame to film dedicated low light work for my channel. I have nothing but Lumix cameras and looked at Sony for a full-frame. Thanks to this video, it looks like the S5 is a go!
If this camera had phase detect af, I would buy this in an eye blink man.....it would have been the perfect camera. Panasonic say they believe their DFD allows for better image quality and is more precise, which is absolutely BS. Why oh why??? For vloggin its OK, I actually use my G9 for vlogs which works without a problem. But filming my kids running around the house its just terrible and unusable, I just take out my Iphone and that does a way better job.
These days for $2000 and autofocus described with the phrase “isn’t completely unusable” is a pass. I love Panasonic cameras but their unreliable autofocus kills me 😩😩😩
Awesome video... However, I don't think this is an "entry level" camera... I think this is a bonafide 4k S1H with one less stop of IS, which is probably balanced out by it's weight... As an S1H owner, I'm slightly torn about this now, considering you can get 2 S5's for the price of 1 S1H.... DAHHH
Hey, thanks so much for this. Exactly the info I needed as I'm looking to upgrade from a GH4. Was leaning toward the A7iii, but S5 seems the way to go for the price point, especially since I'm already familiar with Panasonic and I can get the 4k60 at the same price point. Was also surprised by the results of your comparison of the S-log and V-log. Very helpful video. Thank you!
... if the autofocus would be at the level of Sony, there would be an order placed in a second for S5. I started with Lumix, love them, BUT AF is such a thing for me, that I just can't... just can't. Sorry, maybe next time.
The in-body stabilization on the GH5 is amazing.. And then once you add the lens with IS, all around the stabilization is GREAT !!! I have been hearing the stabilization on the S5 isn't as good as the GH5.. Can anybody confirm or deny this claim...?!
LUMIX S5 VIDEO SHOOTERS PSA: Issue: Glitchy, pixelated lines in the image when using HDMI. Lines of different lengths appearing in different parts of the image a single frame at a time. Long story short. I have been chasing this issue for a couple of months now. Returned my original S5 for a new one, sent my Ninja V in for repair, was sent back with a clean bill of health. Bought the $60 Atomos cable, the issue persists. I originally thought the issue was unique to 5.9K ProRes RAW, turns out, that these lines show up when using the HDMI out in-general. The 12bit 5.9K ProRes Raw image out of this setup is unbelievably good and more than useable for any professional production. But this issue makes the camera impossible to trust for paid work when recording over HDMI. I have found many other users with the same issue, including a thread of comments on Spence Sakurai's review of the camera. IF YOU ARE HAVING THIS ISSUE, PLEASE REPORT IT TO PANASONIC SO THAT THEY TAKE THE ISSUE SERIOUSLY.
Multumesc pentru informatii dar nici pe departe nu merita up grade de la cele 2 GH5S ale mele cu toate obiectivele prime MFT pe care le am deja. Ar fi o pierdere aproape inutila de bani foarte multi. M-ati convins sa raman in continuare pe GH5S.
Please someone help me. I got this camera but 🤦🤦🤦🤦 I can't get good clean video out of it. I know a good light set up is important,but I also know my camera settings are shit. I don't know anything about cameras but got this one because I wanted a good camera for the first time in my life. Now I don't know what to do with it. Too many settings and options.
Man by far your video is .most helpful. Quick question, i ask B&h does the s5 has in body stabilization they said no but i see on your video it does? And do it works good like the gh5?
Hi, Can I record in anamorphic mode without having an anamorphic lenses with this Lumix S5? Do I need an anamorphic lens to record in this open gate or not?
i'm looking forward to S5mk2. hope they will improve processing power to give 4k60 10bit 422 with no record limit (and a Full-sized HDMI). that's all I ask!
If this camera has APC mode, any reason why they can't add micro 4/3 mode so that you can reuse those lenses if they release an adapter for this, the likely users that move to this system are already existing panasonic users, being able to use existing lenses for a time being until you get the full frame lenses is a great boon. If anything, Canon does a great job on this when it comes to their RF system and the adapter.
Hi! Thank you a lot! I am EXTREMELY interested in a review of the combination "LUMIX S5 + Anamorphic". DIY anamorphic lenses (especially 2x), 1.8x lenses like Vazen, 1.33x like Sirui, etc. How good/bad/reasonable IBIS in anamorphic mode. How big difference in reality between GH5s and S5 in anamorphic mode. Difference between V-Log(L) and real V-Log. Difference between internal 4:2:2 10bit and external ProRes (or DNxHR) (Atomos Ninja V). My personal interest is to find the best futureproof camera for DIY 2x anamorphic setup (Sankor 16c + Zenitar-M 50mm/f1.7). Thank you in advance! Very nice video, great colors, and you speak not as fast as Gerald Undone ))) [and it is good]
Wow, I’m a proud owner of an S1H but I still feel like Panasonic doesn’t get enough credit after making so many amazing top of the line cameras.
Yeah AF aside they are killing it!
Too many people need af though, it's become so useful for solo shooters/as a back up, even if they are good at MF
sad asd well i own a gh5 and i shoot myself most of the time. Af could be better but i always get the job done. No other camera has the 6k photo mode and i love it. I do all my self portraits with it. I set it to face detection, start the camera and here we go. It never disapoints me. I was thinking about buying other cameras but 6k mode too important for me. A gh5 is a really good hybrid cam even if it has no canon af. But in photos panasonic af is very very good and for video it is good enough. I will be a happy s5 owner soon
@@sadasd9723 thats truee,...not many ppl can hire focus puller
I agree, its like with all they do they are being refused to be tagged ROYALTY for the fantastic specs they offer. As a Lumix user, I know they ROCK.
Great video, Caleb! Nice and snappy. 🤓👍
Thanks Gerald! Had a little whoopsie with the time zone but I saw yours and corrected so thank you for that ha! Headed over to watch yours now 💜
Now let's get undone!!!
You two are my go-to's every time a new camera is announced. Thank you both for your amazing work.
@@sebastiank7956 Huge agree. The two best value for time spent RUclipsrs. Little or no skateboarding around the studio, just 90 percent of the stuff you wanna know and done.
@@sebastiank7956 exactly
Video Timestamps for you lovely people!
0:00 Intro
0:31 Sensor
1:09 Body, Stabilization and I/O
4:01 Resolutions and Frame Rates
8:26 Anamorphic and V-Log
9:10 Autofocus
12:02 Audio
12:42 Other Video Features
13:30 Final Recommendations
Hey, put the times inside the parenthesis (x:xx) in the description and you will get the times in the timeline of the video 😜
Add them to the main description and RUclips will create chapters in the timeline :) We do that for our videos. No need for parenthesis.
We shoot all our videos on S1H, GH5 and GH5S. But very tempted at Sony now with the a7SIII coming. What will the future hold for the a7IV? And why doesn't Sony offer shutter angles!
Caleb: Another good one. The autofocus is clearly not ready for primetime or competitive with Sony and Canon but it does show clear improvement. Despite the mico HDMI this is another bold shot by Panasonic for a ton of value in a cost competitive body.
Between you and Gerald, I don't need anyone else to recommend or criticize cameras and various gear :)
Astral'o Pithecus Only that Undone was really off in his review of the S5. This overemphasis of vlogging is just annoying.
@@TheOneMonk Well, vloggers or wannabe vloggers make a good part of these guys' fans...
I'm a film student myself and want a camera for videography; short social media ads, videoclips and so on
Throw in potatoe jet for some humor and fun too LOL
@@PVMMAC I liked him in the beginning, he was funny and down to earth...but then I got frustrated from his continuous Canon adverts. I bet my balls he's a sponsor/paid promoter of Canon, and I just can't keep watching him while he ignored all the great Sony, Panasonic, Fuji and Blackmagic cameras :(
I just bought one but hasn’t shipped yet. My first full frame. Was considering Z5, Z6, R6 and A7iii. In the end, IBIS, fully articulating screen and a great deal won me over for thé S5. I currently have a Canon M50 and Nikon D5500. I consider my new S5 a huge upgrade.
So far, have loved filming results with the S5 tests we are doing. We won 28 awards making a short film with the GH5s and so this will be interesting to see what it can do for the sequel ... 🙂
This guy is one of the most talented vlogger and yet he does not deserve to habe just 500k subscribers...he should be over the 2M mark...
I was really hoping for phase detection autofocus. But I definitely appreciate your awesome review as usual Caleb!
This Camera is really good. But not good AF. See what I did there?
People are sleeping on the S5, it's an amazing all around performer.
Im in love with this camera 😍 I dont care a lot about autofocus tracking as I am more a photographer than a videographer. And I love my gx80 and Panasonics ergonomics and Menus 😍
That autofocus definitely seems improved! Still sad it's DFD and not phase detect; it's hard to consider Panasonic's offering without keeping that in mind
I have no idea about the relationship between Sony and Pana in depth, but can you image if Sony gave their juicy PDAF sensors to Panasonic? They would ruin their own video market. Panasonic is insanely valued as seen by the GH5/s, and even their tiny cameras that can record 4K for a long time. If the GH5 came with the lighting quick AF... Imagine how much juicier it would be, and surely it would eat up some Sony sales.
Why are you shooting video in Auto focus?
I just don't understand Panasonic. They already have their nice full frame line. The lenses are so expensive that I have no idea who would buy a starter camera with this expensive mount. Meanwhile us m43 shooters are left in the dust. No meaningful updates/upgrades in a long time. Where's the GH6? Rant done. You're video was informative and great as always.
Guess they back to micro4/3 at 2022year.. next year they trying to fight with Canon and Sony and lest playing with L-mount. Phones has smaller sensor than micro but it's makes able make more AI post processing in camera faster. Raw, vlogs and so on are cool.. but time costs more and more... I don't have time for prostproduction.. I need to work faster and make money but not playing with super cameras for narrative feature.. unfortunately
Makes you wonder if they are pushing as many M43 users to this mount, then coming back with a M43 mount in a little while for those who don't switch...Apple does this kind of marketing all the time (new and better model, but underpowered, then a more powerful model 6 months later).
Panasonic confirmed they are working on another GH camera.
@@chilko after olympus lie I don't recommend to trust words only
@@chilko Awesome. Seems like they will release it after they move as many to the higher profit FF? Looking forward to a GH6 though! Thanks.
Awesome review as usual, you're my favorite reviewer Caleb, thx for the great job. So clear, quick and clean
This video has really opened my eyes to a compelling option! I have been teetering on the Lumix G9 vs. future Z6s vs. XT-4. So, why not add a 4th to further muddle my procrastinating brain.
I'm a big fan, Caleb. You make great content, and your voice is super relaxing.
You videos do not go to full screen with normal 16:9 screens. This looks terrible, IMHO.
RUclips just recommend me a tonnes of videos about the s5, but yours is the first one I chose, thanks man for convincing me about the s5, I was just about getting the a7iii.
Aw thanks for picking me!
2020 might be a year to forget but what a time to be in the market for a new camera. So many good options to choose from, not to mention cameras like the GH5, G9, and X-T3 seeing discounts! Great review as always, Caleb!
Yeah it is just absurd what we have available to us!
Soooo tempting but I'm sitting on my hands until the official GH6/s announcements because I've got a whole lot of nice M43 glass at this point and M43 still feels like it gives me more bang for the buck when it comes to optics.
Lol I just read a article with a Panasonic guy literally saying they are still considering a gh6...which means it’s still not even in development. A gh6...if at all...is not coming anytime soon
@@RandomMotoThings I read the interview as well. You're talking about an interview translated pretty poorly from Japanese.
"Regarding the replacement model for the GH camera that you asked about, I will inform you but the information may be spread. Of course, we are considering it, and we look forward to seeing you there."
Look forward to seeing you there. The rumors have been out for quite awhile that the GH6 announcement was coming this fall. You think that the GH6 rumors were about... the S5?
So did you buy the S5 or are you getting the GH6?
@@michaelcroff7097 I think I decided to stick with MFT and go with the GH6. The S5 felt like too many sacrifices from a usability perspective--it depends so much on external recording capabilities then sticks you with a micro HDMI and a screen that can't articulate when you've got the HDMI port in use. To me as a run and gun, a flexible workhorse GH6 wins out over the modestly superior dynamic range and low light capability of the S5.
I don't really film myself so I'm happy to stay with the Panasonic value proposition, even if it means the AF isn't stellar.
This is the first full frame camera to make me seriously consider buying it. The price is right and it hasn't been beaten to death with the cripple hammer.
To me the question here is how to think about the Blackmagic after the S5 raw comes out. The BMPCC4K looked like a pretty good upgrade path from the GH5, but now the plot thickens.
That might depend on what lenses you use, too. If you typically use Canon or other full frame lenses on a Speedbooster, the S5 makes sense with an adapter as you dont need new lenses. But if you have mostly m43 native lenses, you'll need a bunch of new lenses for the S5.
@@raksh9 Certainly a factor. I've got some nice native glass for MFT and that was a consideration with looking at the BMPCC4K for sure. But I'm covered with FF too, and there's the Metabones XL which gives you close to FF on the MFT. I've got a lot of options to sort through but I guess that's one of those good problems. I will say this is a lot of camera for two thousand bucks.
Too totally different ballparks imo. Black magic has a certain look to its imagery that i think still separates itself from mirrorless cameras imo. Also, braw is very efficient and has multiple codec options. It’s much better than pro res raw in terms of flexibility and options so it’s not quite the same. Also keep in mind, it’s raw is ALL internal. No atomos needed.
I think the S5 would be a good complimentary camera to the pocket 4k and 6k I’m actually thinking about it.
@@RandomMotoThings Well, that's just it. All these bodies have a mix of strengths and weaknesses and in the end it's what's the best fit for the individual shooter. I may rent this and the BMPCC, see how they feel in use, then send them back and play with the files I get and see if there's an obvious way to go.
The other thing to consider is that if you want to take photos the bmpcc doesnt do so well, but I guess you still have the gh5 for that :)
Specs look great other than a clearly artificial 30 minute limit for 4K 30 fps internal.
Yeah right ?!
Caleb, what are your thoughts on what seems like a lot of noise in the midtones for this camera?
Can Panasonic just make a deal with Olympus to use their autofocus system. This tracking plus their AF tech would be perfect
Thanks...
We are having a lot of "Camera (features)" in those new entry level FF mirrorless : Panasonic S5, Nikon Z5... Happy to see camera makers are coming with interesting tools for us to enjoy photography.
In the of techs the future look promising for next updates : Z6, Z7, S1,... RP, R
Thanks.
Why? These cameras offer very little for photography, pretty much all new features are for video
I would love to see an updated S5 video with the Raw output and new features! This may be the camera I'll upgrade to depending on the A74.
it's hard to choose between Panasonic S5 or bmpcc 4K. Thank you for the details.
Bmpcc 4k for best image quality and tweakability. S5 for allround use. I want both😂
Have had a couple of Lumix cameras and have been considering a switch back to Sony, but the S5 is very tempting. Thanks for the excellent review!
You’re my best reviewer man!
You know what we all want.......GH5, GH5's and S5 comparison and if it's worth to upgrade. Only thing I don't like about it is not having 2 UHS II slots since I upgraded to all UHS II to dual record.
If Canon and Sony can create amazing autofocus, it can’t be that hard to make theirs better. Take out the contrast af, just make something new please!!!!
So why is there a cripple 30 minute limit... Clearly no overheating problem...
30 min limit is so they don't have to pay extra tax and make the camera more expensive
@@yorgoszervoulakos7136 that tax rule was dropped some time ago. Now they are just either very conservative with heat management or it serves product segmentation.
I liked your autofocus test, overall, top notch review. If I were to get into full frame cameras, I believe I would go with this S5. I'm already been a Panasonic GH4 owner for nearly 5 years.
I have found one second hand for about 800 bought a year ago so this video helped me make my final decision thx!
I bought one for 800€, atmos ninja V for 300€. Bam, now its full frame prores RAW camera at 1200€. Take that black magic pocket cameras :D
Entry level camera? This thing has a cinema camera sensor inside of it. I think A LOT of reviewers are REALLY downplaying how incredible this camera is at $2,000. Ok the autofocus isn’t great but my XT3 autofocus isn’t great either and we’re just going to ignore the fact that this will do 5.9k prores raw externally, 14+ stops dynamic range, IBIS dual native ISO, AND it can shoot pictures and NOT overheat come on now!
Thank you for the good video. I am in S.Korea and English is my 2nd language, but your good pronunciation and detailed explanation are good enough for me to understand. Thumbs up !!
Sir, do you think the quality of images by X1500 is worse than S5?
Mostly I make videos of street food. It needs fast AF and deep depth. So I also consider the Panasonic X1500 camcorder. However, I also consider a good quality of images and filming inside of restaurants or filming in the evening. Because of these 2 matters, I hesitate to choose X1500. I do not color correction after editing at Premier Pro. My style is quickly filming, editing, and loading on RUclips. In this aspect, the X1500 is good for me. May I look forward to your reply?
Just a heads-up! Recording the screen/view finder DOES impact the autofocus! Would like to see if it improves when you just record some video.
Is there a way to record 4 channels of audio simultaniously if you use the flash socket XLR-adapter? Or is it limited to 2ch either via 3.5mm jack OR the XLR-Adapter? Thanks
Caleb man. I love U. Gh5 user and i am a bit Concern about this late camera Fever around 4000 Dolars. I used a Gh4 and Gh5 and always tempting to change to sony, but this camera its perfect for The price. Nice review as always
I'm camera shopping and your video was super helpful!! Thanks 🙂
I’m looking to upgrade my camera from my trusty DSLR with a focus on video. This cameras seems to have the best features for my budget…but how does it do with still photos?
One more thought; would you recommend jumping from the A7iii to the S5? It feels a little lateral, but (on paper) you still get some really good video upgrades, obviously the biggest being anamorphic.
Thanks for a great review! Very comprehensive!
I just bought s5 I’m ready to have fun 🤙
Brilliant video Caleb thank you.
Are you working on an S5 guide? If I am to learn all there is to know about this camera, I feel you are the person to go to. Seriously take my $80 🤘🏼
I just got gifted the GH5 as my first DSLR by a friend of mine for my birthday
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Hi! I have a question that I can't seem to find an answer to. Partly because my lack of experience in the professional camera realm and partly because of the lack of information out there. I want to buy a Lumix S5 and I also need a lens for it. I want to film super wide angle at 4k60 ( so the image will be cropped ) and I am looking for a lens that will give me roughly the same image as an iPhone 11/12/13 on the ultra wide camera in video mode ( iPhone crops in ultra wide video mode ) and from what I understand the focal length of the ultra wide on the iPhone is 13mm ( in photo mode ). What lens should I buy for the S5 ( preferably prime ) for this effect aka iPhone ultra wide video mode ( 13mm cropped ). Thanks 😐
Nice review, Caleb! I had my fingers crossed for no crop 60fps on this camera... Really wish Panasonic could find a way to include that on their full frame cameras.
I wonder if that might get fixed via a firmware update at some point? I do some much stuff that moves quickly that I prefer 60...
Helpful my dude
Everything in detail review thankyou so so much
Now we just need a high specs version of this sensor and body..... GH6
Oh yeah... One of the big takeaways from this S5 is the fact that if Panasonic can do this much in a tiny full frame camera, you know they can go absolution ape with MFT...
Really, really good review. Watched the Gerald Undone review of the S5 and it really put me off this camera, yet gave a glowing review of the Sony A7SIII a few weeks ago....this seemed much more balanced and gave a whole lot more of what the camera can do. Thanks!
hmmm... really got me considering my first Panasonic. Great first look review.
As always,...great review video!.
What lense have you been using for this video (facecam) please ? Your image quality is insane with your S1
I was going to say the same thing lol. The footage with the girl in the car looks excellent
Yes! Answer this man lol
@@RandomMotoThings I believe he uses the Canon 24-70 f2.8 with the Sigma-MC21.
kit lens 20-60 f3.5 - 5.6
No answer.... Yeah these big YTubers can’t keep up with the comments and questions. They d need an assistant
. Which is too bad because we lose touch with them or the opposite. Now it’s like watching TV and trying to call the tv station asking to talk to the producers!
Thanks for a great information video
Well done
Thanks for the video. This was helpful in my purchasing decision.
I am selling my A7iii to get the S5 ❤️ I have lost my will to shoot and create after I left the Canon 5D3 and went for the Sony. But I know from my 4 other Panny's that the S5 will bring back the joy of shooting 🙏🥰
entry level?! my first camera was the Sony FDR AX33 which is basically worse than current day iPhone. I think this camera deserves more credit, the only fall back is the auto-focus which advanced cameras such as REDs don't even have...
Great video, again. The price point on this thing is amazing for what it offers.
Hey Caleb, what are your thoughts on the GH5ii vs the S5?
Many thanks for your review ! After much reflexion, I was about to order a BMPCC 4K...but this S5 seems to change the game now
I would still say the pocket 6k is better at $2000
@Daniel Tomczak that’s unfortunate because there’s a lot more to video than that crop. MOST movies are filmed with super 35 sensors. For video this shouldn’t be that much of a issue I just think people get too enamored with the “full frame hype”. I think super 35 is more than sufficient and the most important thing imo should be image quality, codecs, raw, video tools etc. To each is own though I respect the opinion
Though I don't use autofocus much I do wish they'd just develop a phase detect autofocus system.
I'm really trying to figure out what the catch is. How is this camera so cheap but better than more expensive ones in a lot of ways?
The camera looks great, but the auto focus pulsing that is still present is just disappointing. The two things that makes me hesitate to upgrade from the GH5 is that they have improved the autofocus, but not enough to compete with Sony or Canon, and that L-mount kinda sucks in comparison to Sony's robust lens system. It's going to be a hard choice between saving money for this camera or going with the Sony a7s iii for $1300 more. I just wish they'd announce the GH6, because I really do not mind working with MFT.
I think they said they are working on a GH camera
@@neelixramirez9411 They did, but that could mean 3 months from now or 3 years. I read an interview with someone from Panasonic who basically didn't want to discuss GH development beyond "We haven't abandoned it."
Sadly I'm getting a point where I may have to jump ship.
Panasonic must develop phase detect auf focus as fast as possible. But maybe it is already too late.
In apsc mode the focussing seems better, and than you are still using a larger sensor area than with mft. You'll need wide angle ff glass or apsc glass though.
Michael Schagen Might be better, but still not great or even good compared to their major competitors. I’m through defending Panasonic’s terrible autofocus.
Well, I was looking to spend some surplus money on a full-frame to film dedicated low light work for my channel. I have nothing but Lumix cameras and looked at Sony for a full-frame. Thanks to this video, it looks like the S5 is a go!
Nice. I use a GH5 a lot so it will be interesting to give this one a go. Good review!
If this camera had phase detect af, I would buy this in an eye blink man.....it would have been the perfect camera. Panasonic say they believe their DFD allows for better image quality and is more precise, which is absolutely BS. Why oh why??? For vloggin its OK, I actually use my G9 for vlogs which works without a problem. But filming my kids running around the house its just terrible and unusable, I just take out my Iphone and that does a way better job.
Nice video! I am seriously going to upgrade my GH5 to the S5👍
These days for $2000 and autofocus described with the phrase “isn’t completely unusable” is a pass. I love Panasonic cameras but their unreliable autofocus kills me 😩😩😩
Look at a BMPCC 4K: Not everyone needs autofocus
super presentation, thanks
Wow at last a *MICRO FULL FRAME* is born ♡
Awesome video... However, I don't think this is an "entry level" camera... I think this is a bonafide 4k S1H with one less stop of IS, which is probably balanced out by it's weight... As an S1H owner, I'm slightly torn about this now, considering you can get 2 S5's for the price of 1 S1H.... DAHHH
Hey, thanks so much for this. Exactly the info I needed as I'm looking to upgrade from a GH4. Was leaning toward the A7iii, but S5 seems the way to go for the price point, especially since I'm already familiar with Panasonic and I can get the 4k60 at the same price point. Was also surprised by the results of your comparison of the S-log and V-log. Very helpful video. Thank you!
Have you made the switch yet? curious on your thoughts after doing so
... if the autofocus would be at the level of Sony, there would be an order placed in a second for S5. I started with Lumix, love them, BUT AF is such a thing for me, that I just can't... just can't. Sorry, maybe next time.
Finally - looks like the camera I've been waiting for. Was thinking of going GH5-GH6 but this is full frame and hands down it's like a full frame GH5.
REALLY a great review
The in-body stabilization on the GH5 is amazing.. And then once you add the lens with IS, all around the stabilization is GREAT !!! I have been hearing the stabilization on the S5 isn't as good as the GH5.. Can anybody confirm or deny this claim...?!
Generally that what Ive heard from the reviews Ive watched. It is a bit better than the other FF cameras tho.
LUMIX S5 VIDEO SHOOTERS PSA:
Issue: Glitchy, pixelated lines in the image when using HDMI. Lines of different lengths appearing in different parts of the image a single frame at a time.
Long story short. I have been chasing this issue for a couple of months now. Returned my original S5 for a new one, sent my Ninja V in for repair, was sent back with a clean bill of health. Bought the $60 Atomos cable, the issue persists.
I originally thought the issue was unique to 5.9K ProRes RAW, turns out, that these lines show up when using the HDMI out in-general.
The 12bit 5.9K ProRes Raw image out of this setup is unbelievably good and more than useable for any professional production. But this issue makes the camera impossible to trust for paid work when recording over HDMI.
I have found many other users with the same issue, including a thread of comments on Spence Sakurai's review of the camera.
IF YOU ARE HAVING THIS ISSUE, PLEASE REPORT IT TO PANASONIC SO THAT THEY TAKE THE ISSUE SERIOUSLY.
Multumesc pentru informatii dar nici pe departe nu merita up grade de la cele 2 GH5S ale mele cu toate obiectivele prime MFT pe care le am deja. Ar fi o pierdere aproape inutila de bani foarte multi. M-ati convins sa raman in continuare pe GH5S.
Does this suffer with shutter shock like the G series?
great video as always Caleb but this is a mirrorless, not a DSLR 😉
Please someone help me. I got this camera but 🤦🤦🤦🤦 I can't get good clean video out of it. I know a good light set up is important,but I also know my camera settings are shit. I don't know anything about cameras but got this one because I wanted a good camera for the first time in my life. Now I don't know what to do with it. Too many settings and options.
I have a question: Does it work with the Tokina 11-20mm F2.8 Lens? I use it with the GH5 with the Viltrox EF-M2 Speedbooster adapter. Many Thanks
it would be awesome if Panasonic would make a MFT camera with similar set of features, and just smaller resolution (and even a bit smaller body)
It would probably help the af aswell as it works better in apsc mode.
Man by far your video is .most helpful. Quick question, i ask B&h does the s5 has in body stabilization they said no but i see on your video it does? And do it works good like the gh5?
Hi Caleb, given the recent announcement of new firmware that adds a lot of the S5 features to the S1 would you still pick the S5?
S5 would be better option as there is still no ProRes RAW support for S1 and it has no anamorphic settings.
Looks stunning! I’m still leaning toward a Canon mirrorless. What do you think about the full frame lenses for Panasonic?
Seems promising, but I REALLY want a GH6
if it ever comes...
Yeah I want one to but I kinda want a new camera now, Il save a bit of money then see whats out. Hoping the GH6 will come out by then... :(
Hi, Can I record in anamorphic mode without having an anamorphic lenses with this Lumix S5? Do I need an anamorphic lens to record in this open gate or not?
i'm looking forward to S5mk2. hope they will improve processing power to give 4k60 10bit 422 with no record limit (and a Full-sized HDMI). that's all I ask!
Outstanding overview and review. Really am thinking this is a FF GH5 or close to it. I’m really tempted on this.
If this camera has APC mode, any reason why they can't add micro 4/3 mode so that you can reuse those lenses if they release an adapter for this, the likely users that move to this system are already existing panasonic users, being able to use existing lenses for a time being until you get the full frame lenses is a great boon. If anything, Canon does a great job on this when it comes to their RF system and the adapter.
What is pixel to pixel...? Is it like the teleconvert mode of the GH5?
No Downscaling...Just enough pixels for the resolution being filmed.
Hi! Thank you a lot! I am EXTREMELY interested in a review of the combination "LUMIX S5 + Anamorphic". DIY anamorphic lenses (especially 2x), 1.8x lenses like Vazen, 1.33x like Sirui, etc. How good/bad/reasonable IBIS in anamorphic mode. How big difference in reality between GH5s and S5 in anamorphic mode. Difference between V-Log(L) and real V-Log. Difference between internal 4:2:2 10bit and external ProRes (or DNxHR) (Atomos Ninja V).
My personal interest is to find the best futureproof camera for DIY 2x anamorphic setup (Sankor 16c + Zenitar-M 50mm/f1.7).
Thank you in advance!
Very nice video, great colors, and you speak not as fast as Gerald Undone ))) [and it is good]
Great review, thanks for that!
Can you tell what gear did you use for this video? Camera and lens especially.