Panasonic S5 First Impressions Review
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- We take a look at the new Panasonic S5 full-frame camera: 4K/60p video, DFD autofocus updates, image quality, slow motion, build and design, sample images and more!
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Great review as always guys, but just one thing which deserves way more attention...
It’s the only full frame camera at that price point with high-res mode. I can’t stress how much of a game changer for anyone who shoots stationary objects, products, interiors etc it is, and eliminates the need to buy a more expensive higher res camera. That feature alone makes this SUCH good value.
I’ve got an S1R and the high res mode is just incredible. Way better than Sony.
I actually switched from Sony to L-Mount because Sigma were making the only interesting reasonably priced glass on E-mount... And the S1R is the best built mirrorless camera by far.
I don’t shoot people or wildfire so don’t care about the AF.
Anyway, stop shooting landscapes with trees and water to test the high-res feature! That’s not what it’s for and you’re not doing it justice!
So glad I rewatched this. I just found a stellar deal for this camera and can’t hardly wait to use this. 🏆📸
Panasonic makes great cameras, they push the big boys in specs and features. They support their cameras forever introducing new features well into a cameras life cycle, which makes me appreciate the way they do business. I would happily buy more of their cameras if they would FIX THE FREAKING AUTOFOCUS!!
i mean. its clearly a tonne better than previous cameras.
如果自动对焦做好，这会是完美的相机。所以我很期待下一代s5
The first video I will watch on a new camera is you guys! Keep up the great work 🏆
Panasonic should make a full frame range finder style camera like their GX Micro 4/3 series or like the Sony A7c
Picked up a used S1R with 2500 shots for only $1650. I was an APSC shooter (Pentax and Fuji) and the DPR videos on the Panasonic FF models convinced me to go with Lumix. I shoot portraits, do some street and some landscape photography and the DFD focusing has been spot on for me!
I love how Chris takes boring pictures on purpose. It’s definitely his super power 🥳 also thanks for the good content.
I'm not sure how to feel about that?
2020 might be a year to forget but what a time to be in the market for a new camera. So many good options to choose from, not to mention cameras like the GH5, G9, and X-T3 seeing discounts! Great review as always guys! Be safe.
The image is so cinematic. The most filmic look since Bmpcc 1k 💪🙏
I would have bought this as my first full frame video camera, but I simply must have decent autofocus as I film alone most of the time.
Many professionals use the GH5 and S1H for work which both have lower performing AF compared to the S5. I took have done plenty of jobs using the AF on my GH5 and it was fine
@@FuzeDzn Gh5 must be better than the G9 mate. The autofocus on the G9 is disgusting. Even after software updates it still loses my face all the time and focusses on the background.
@@robbiefishing not sure then, but the G9 is more photo focused than the GH5... Either way, the S5 is much better than both 😁
You should step away from Dslrs for video get a camera that is strictly for video you'd get better performance, for what this camera costs with a lense you can get a very high end video camera
if AF is a dealbreaker for you, stay away from Panasonic. they use a crappy contrast AF and refuse to change it..
Have been a G85 user for 5 years seriously considering the S5 as an upgrade for it's video features and most importantly it's probably the best bargain for a full frame camera! The auto focus for me is not a big deal as I mostly use manual focus and what I love about Panasonic is the consistent firmware updates and how they continually support their older cameras even the G85 which is probably 6 or 7 years old now since it's first release! My G85 just keeps getting better even the auto focus with every new firmware update and I know the S5 will have that same support.
I think the S5 will make a nice companion for my Panasonic G9.
i don't think because price difference is really big
gh5 or gh5s maybe they gona face of because of price and features
@@INDERSHOW the GH5 and GH5s have more video options, some of which cater to the professional videographer so the GH series will still have a base. That said, I could see people picking up an S5 instead of a backup GH5(s).
@@glsracer yeah but the GH5 isnt full frame...
@@KingTut14 there is a use case for an M43 video camera (ie if you need faster aperture lenses and want more DOF) but most people would probably be better off with a FF Panasonic S5.
"The fortune cookie says - Somewhat likely" lmao
S5 looks like an awesome little camera packed with a lot of features .
I will never understand why Panasonic deliberately refuses to incorporate phase detection in their newer cameras. By doing that they are hurting no-one else but themselves. They are making cameras that have so many wonderful features but that really are worthless without a solid and totally reliable continuous AF system.
PS: Of course I am only referring to shooting videos and not to photography.
I'm more interested in why they refused to incorporate a god damn thumb rest on the backside of the camera!
Did not expect the sneaky 8 1/2 Criterion
As always you guys are the gold standard for competent, balanced reviews of hybrid cameras. I look forward to the firmware upgrade of my S1. Hopefully they will in include the full thing, i.e. RAW output and anamorphic support. Ah, one question: what about timecode?
If this S5 would’ve incorporated phase detection autofocus, it would’ve been a no-brainer for me. Thanks for the amazing review as usual guys!
and a 3.69mdot EVF. twin UHS-II would have been a killer camera.
Same here. I'm honestly baffled. It seems like such an obvious path for Panasonic to take. I'm happy with my G9 for the moment, but when it comes time to upgrade, if Panasonic is still pushing CDAF, I'm headed to Sony.
While the autofocus is not as fast as the A7III with moving subjects, the advantage of DFD is a better and sharper picture with less banding and ghosting. Give me the S5 anytime!
@@artyrichman nothing to do with speed, though; the problem with DFD / CDAF is that it doesn't know if the focal plane is in front of or behind the subject. Causes it to hunt back and forth, and there's really no way to work around it. You simply need two observation points. The problem with Panasonic cameras in video CAF is that you just can't trust them. I say this as an owner of my beloved G9, which I do love. It's frustrating.
Arty Rich I still love my GH5 and S1R! I wouldn’t trade either for a Sony.
I honestly think the autofocus did well, especially in super35.
Jordan,
If the output level on your your active audio device is too hot for -12dB it is not necessary to go out and buy the XLR1 accessory. Just use the s5’s built in line level input option. That’s what it’s there for.
Great review! Being a Lumix G9 user this would be the next step into full frame, but maybe just not yet. Hopefully the AF will be better with firmware updates.
Same here!
The AF is miles better than your G9! Especially if you do stills which I imagine you do more so if you own a G9
Still happy with my S1. No regrets.
No one cares 🤡
Great review guys, it does bother me that Panasonic used a lower quality EVF compared to other Panasonic cameras.
Okay Cool. Thanks
Such a great review, so excited about getting this!
How do you like it?
Another great review....that makes you watch to the end....love your work Chris / Jordan! 🤙🏼📸😊
2020 and no Bee-detect autofocus?
Yeah, that’s gonna be a no from me, dawg
😂😂😂😂
No cute dessert 😡😡😡😡😡😡
Well, they're not murder hornets, so not big enough eyes to cover an autofocus point.
SOLD! my Purchase Order for the S5 is in.
I am taking a lot more video these days and the S5 is the perfect camera for this. Way beyond what one could have imagined even a few years ago.
Features, size, quality and value is just unbeatable.
I started taking photos 45 years ago when all SLR's were manual focus. So getting the S5 to focus will not be an issue. I think that people see that the autofocus is not perfect and fob the camera off as worthless. That's never the case and you may just have to work a little harder to find out how to get the focus when and how you want it. I am not into sports photography so no issue here.
"Modern photographers" are too precious these days are not willing to work for their shots. People just want the equivalent of an instamatic these days and buy sophisticated DSLRs so they can call themselves a professional arteest.
OK now let's do the maths.
Th Panasonic S5 here in the land of OZ is selling RRP for $3,199.
For $500 more you will get the 20-60mm lens kit. The 20-60mm lens is selling individually for $1,099. Plus if purchased before the end of Sept you can redeem the Sigma 45mm lens valued at approx $900.
The S5 with the two lenses comes to $3,699 [US$2,692] and you are getting $2,000 worth of lenses. Therefore you are only really paying $1,699 [US$1,236] for the S5 body.
I was able to get another hundred dollars off the deal which makes it even sweeter.
Where in the world would find such amazing value for such a great kit?
In years to come when the S5 is an antique, you can always sell or pass on the body to someone else and keep the L glass.
People this purchase is a no brainer.
Times have changed - I just picked up my S5 for $2495 (USD $1740) INCLUDING the 20-60 kit lens. Also just purchased the 50 F/1.8 S lens for $550. Looking for a good deal on a 70-200 next.
Great review and maybe the number 1 travel camera with the 20-60 lens when the 70-300 breaks cover
After the e-mount the L mount is the strongest with the variety of full frame lenses. Canon has a poor variety of full frame mirrorless lenses but most of them are really impressive.
Can someone please share a link to high-quality wireless microphones that work with this camera?
11:33 slammed his nose?! ‚Beeeeetaaa!‘
Amazing review guys.
Guys, speaking of the notoriously sloppy face/eye tracking AF-C on Lumix cameras...have you ever tried pressing the joystick after subject face has been tracked (or touched it on the screen)? This will change the square graphic slightly, and the focusing accuracy will GREATLY improve, in still but also movie mode. This is strange, no mention in the manuals...it's working on the S5 but also on my G9. Your take? Thank you.
9:47 - Cross your eyes for 3D Jordan!
It works!
This is a great review guys. Can we also get the new Olympus em-10 IV in a review, please?
quick note that you're incorrect on the IBIS. It's actually slightly "worse" than the other panasonic cams because of the size. i think it's 5 or 5.5 stops.
Also i love the colors on these S cams. Something about how they render greens and blues (and skin) is just so delicious.
The IBIS on its own is 5 stops, however with the Dual I.S it is 6.5 stops... Considering all of the current Panasonic L mount lenses feature IS other than the new 20-60mm
The fortune cookie says “somewhat likely” lol 😂
Looks like a fine camera, a full frame G9 if you will. It'll be especially tempting when the price drops in a few months, as they always do from launch price, and also coming soon is the nice trio of much needed compact f1.8 primes, the 24, 50 and 85, which will make for a nice lens line up for the S cameras.
S5 is cool and all, but I'm really just here waiting for them to release the GH6 already.
Where was it manufactured? In regard to focusing -- I like Panasonic focusing - works just fine.
Awesome review I’m going from a gh4 to the S-5
Good video and good testing, with many good questions answered.
One remark though... Are you becoming more "serious" in your attitudes recently?? I'm missing the introduction joke and your usual swearing guys 😁
Make sure you carry on with your funly-serious tests. That's how we love you guys! 😉
The S1 has that dope EVF and LCD...
4k 120p would be on my wish list to upgrade....gh5 still solid.....just go all manual!
The downgraded EVF is such a let down. Panasonic have a great history with speccing EVF's, especially looking at the G9 and S1. Why on earth did they not give this a 4m dot EVF like the Z6, XT4, R6 etc? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it has the lowest resolution EVF in this pricerange for 2 years.
Can't get over why manufacturers still don't use Noct as a measuring unit, it's pure genius!
So you're asking the other manufacturers to admit Nikon as measurement? It'll be a field trip for lawyers
Almost makes me want the original S1 more. I heard that the S5 was also supposed to have dual native ISO. Did that happen?
Wtf is crawling on Jordan's shoulder at 11:56??
Its a part of a plant
yea why didn't the cameraman note and remove it between takes! :)
Best by far! You two rock
The ALTSON EF-L Mount Converter enables the use of Canon EF-mount lenses on L-mount
mirrorless camera bodies, and maintains full lens performance, including autofocus in AF-S
mode, as well as in-camera correction and image stabilization technologies.
2015... Panasonic consumers: can we get a better Auto-Focus?
Panasonic: we are improving our current one
2020... Panasonic consumers: can we get a better Auto-Focus?
Panasonic: we are improving our current one
Chris didn't mention it, but another reason to purchase the S1 instead is the better evf.
hi-res mode- was there a mistake? the images look identical.
If panasonic had this autofocus on the gh5 / g85 line, I think Panasonic would have been much more competitive the last few years
if it had phase detection AF, it would simply crush every other camera
@@davemunoz9742 100 percent agree. Olympus had it this whole time but I think they over priced their bodies and lenses
Agreed. Just got into the g9. Phase detect and across the board camera features will absolutely dedtroy the competition. One can hope...
when you guys do the "walking-towards-camera" AF test, you should also do a test in lower lighting environments, y'know? Like in church lighting? (for the wedding shooters 😉)
Comparisons S1H and S5 video focus (from 6:50 minute) is made with different aperture (F/4.0 for 1H and F/5.6 for C5).
S5 at this point have much bigger depth field, which makes autofocus system less sensitive as a result, background magnification changes will be less visible.
In few words with bigger depth field autofocus system less changing focus or not changing at all.
Second thing, which can also have the influence on results, is the distance to the main object. You can see that test with C5 was made bigger distance on which depth field will be also bigger.
So both factors, which can have, influence on background magnification changes looks like helps S5 looks better.
THANKS, GUYS.....EXCELLENT REVIEW...
Can currently get the s5 with 20-60, 50 1.8 and 85 1.8 for £2k in the UK from wex. Insane deal there
Your sure right Chris, this is what Panasonic needed right now! The only things I wish were better is the EVF res., full size HDMI, split cover... for the era & mic jacks, on (as usual) better AF. However for the price, these things are minor compare to what this so much smaller & portable can do.
now that S1 has firmware update 1.6, how is it compared to the S5? it`s price gap is only 70usd in Indonesia
Currently the S1 is only £100 more expensive than the S5. If the older model gets the CAF update (and Raw?), it seems like the better buy.
This camera was like on sale in Europe very shortly for like 1400 euros, my God what a price that was. Goddamn me for missing it.
Just what I wanted to see!!! 🙌 thank you!
Interesting. I'm close to buying a Z6 because of the 24-200. It appears to be a good all-in-one video lens alternative. The Panasonic 20-60 is tempting, too. Any comments, Jordan?
The good ppl at Krolop have found out that photo AF is impacted when using a monitor via HDMI. Maybe sth to keep in mind for the tests...
So will there be a S1H-2 this year or is this the new successor? Is the S1 line discontinued? Trying to figure out if if it’s worth waiting.
Panasonic S5, Canon R, Nikon Z6, Sony A7C, etc. Good time to get a FF camera!!!
How does the focus compare to the SL2?
Great videos (all of them......)...and that is a lot of vidieos......
Bought this camera. Love it.
This seems like a great product! Good job Panasonic!
You guys do really great reviews . 👊🏾👊🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Are there any programs around that will convert Panasonic's 4K and 6K Photo files to video files?
Thoughts on this and the a7SIII? I've been using Panasonic since GH4 and I now have two GH5's, GH5S and S1H and I clearly like their image quality, but the AF always lacked. Now that Sony is catching up, and superseding in specs are you guys sticking with Panasonic for your videos or will you start using the Sony?
Thinking about switching, I tried with the a7RIII but didn't love the video of it, but things look to have improved now. And having the same lenses to use for larger cinema systems like the upcoming FX6 that sounds very very tempting.
Great reviews thank you. That's the camera I'd be investing in soon.
I wouldn't swap my GH5 for something that didn't have usable AF, also the EVF would be an annoying step-down. Be interesting to see how it sells, as $2k isn't that entry-level...
20-60 for a FF kit lens is an awesome range for a hybrid camera though...
I want this Panasonic S5 alongside the Panasonic Gh5s
Nice camera. Lens library is terrible though. Stuck with either bazooka Sigma glass or 2nd mortgage Leica glass. Its sort of ironic that Panasonic, one of the great m43's camera makers that knows how to make small, light and high performing products took this long to make the S5 (which should have been their FIRST FF camera), and also do not have any good f1.8 lightweight primes or f2.8 zooms that are smaller either. If I was shopping to get into FF, the best choice is still an A7iii followed closely by the Nikon Z6 simply due to their lens library.
Superb getting this out so quick, clearly sitting on this testing for a couple of weeks. I wish they got rid of this DFD autofocus. I do wonder if the A7C is going to be better for me... lots to like here
Seems like a nice B camera for my Sony FS5. Or just a great vlogging and vacation camera. Still waiting for another episode of Wooden Nichols or at least Jordan acting coquettish.
about the EVF; even lumix G9 has 4mil dot evf.
Great review guys, I'm wondering what my next step should be...I'm a GH5 & GH5s filmmaker, should I wait for the GH6? Or get the S5 or the S1H?
Great review as always..just wondering as I’m a Panasonic GH4 owner looking to go full frame does this camera shoot log and timelapse internal like the GH4?
Yes and yes. It’s the full V-Log as well!
Hi Great review, as always! I personally don't shoot video, so would you recommend this camera for stills photography solely? thank you!
If I buy this Panasonic S5 hopefully the auto focus will get alot better especially with continued firmware updates
In my own opinion the Panasonic S5 is like the full frame Panasonic GH4, Panasonic G85, Panasonic GX8, Panasonic G7, and Canon 80D and Canon 90D and Canon C100 Mark 2 rolled into one as it can do unlimited recording in 8 bit 4K and HD 1080p. In both Full Frame and Super 35. With less better Auto focus
Well done guys!
I think a lot of panasonic users are wondering if there's a future for the GH line with this camera debuting. The feature set on this camera looks insane for the price point despite the terrible panasonic autofocus. It's cheaper than the GH5s when it launched and it appears to be a significantly better camera. If panasonic doesn't kill the GH line, it makes me excited to see what it has in store for MFT.
LOVE watching your videos. I own a NIKON D800 and a Sony 7R. Never liked the D800. loved the &R but its time for an upgrade. SO MANY CHOICES out there. I am loving this Lumix S5 but I am thinking that in the latter part of 2021 something more amazing might come out for still photography. What is your thought ? Also do Nikon Lenes work on the Panasonic cameras?
After much deliberation just ordered an S5! Switching from canon because I couldn’t justify the $1,000 premium of the r6 over this camera, especially since the S5 is on sale currently.
More video of that person surfing in the river. cool
Thank you guys for this preview, very good video as usual.
I'm searching a versatile mirrorless camera and I would have your opinion : S5 or R6 ? :)
What do you think ? Can we compare this two bodies ?
See U
My goodness Panasonic?
Every one of your customers has been begging for good autofocus for overadecade and you continually disappoint them.
Get phase detect tof or anything.
This is extremely disappointing because otherwise like panny cams it is exceptional.
Pay whatever Sony asks to get class leading autofocus or prepare for many loyal users to go else where when it's time to upgrade.
Hopefully a third party can step in with an autofocus adapter mount that can improve the contrast autofocus in pannys m43 and s mount systems until than
Panasonic is a huge disappointment if you want or need dependable auto focus like many one man operations do.
Still nothing to make want to sell my 2 year old Sony A7iii, maybe next year eh
The 4K footage looks great 👌👌
You see pixelation in the EVF with 2,000,000+ dots??? WTF? Is your eye site like Condor's?
8:55 Cris is just natural-born videographer.
With the actual firmware update in my S1H and my S1 we have the same AF update like the S5. And the S5 is not a S1H, not in any case!
I still use my S1H and my S1 since they reached the market.
I am finding it increasingly hard to want to stick with Panasonic going forwards. I don't know who is in charge there but they are really focusing on the wrong things right now.
@Timothy J I was thinking that as I typed it. It's getting beyond a joke now. I believed their spiel about it potentially becoming better than phase detect but it's just bullshit.
They are focusing on the right things, but the focus is hunting...
Great review. Do you think S5 is better than XT3 ?? Greetings from Havana.
I've always enjoyed your coverage and held you guys up as mentors when I first started my channel, especially Jordan. I really wanted to get the S1 when it was announced, but Panasonic's stubborn view that DFD works is getting tiring. I'm a one man show. I want a trust worthy AF so I can focus on the subject and not if they're in focus. Do you guys have any insight why they refuse to move to phase detect?
Hi guys Love your videos thank you so much for this info. For photography I am debating on Panasonic S5 or save more to get the Canon R5. Your thoughts ?