I Solved Midnight Motorist (at least i think...) | FNAF Theory
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- Опубликовано: 19 апр 2023
- I'm pretty sure I just solved Midnight Motorist by observing something that to my knowledge, nobody has brought up.
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This is just something I wanna bring up because I saw quite a few people bringing it up. I am aware that the audio is quiet and I apologize for that. Unfortunately I can't fix that on this video unless I re upload it. The next video I make I'll do my best to fix the audio. I appreciate people mentioning it, however there's no need for anyone else to bring it up as I am fully aware of it.
Well reupload then jk. Jk love the vids man keep them coming ❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥❤️🔥
i always thought he was represented as purple because the employees wore purple, so it would make sense for him to not be wearing purple when he's outside the restaurant
My only issue with this is that apparently the person sitting on the couch is called man sitting in the files but to be honest Scott can easily change that since Charlie was originally a boy in the give cake minigame with the voice in the background saying save him but then later Charlie became a girl (personally I believe Scott retroactively made Charlie that kid in give cake since I think originally he was meant to just be some random kid William killed but yeah)
I think the person is called backdrop_26, actually.
I am not sure, but I heard the person being called man sitting is just a myth that came from an unofficial sprites rip.
I think it could be Henry taking care of Michael since William would be drowning his sorrows in alcohol for the death of Crying Child
i just saw in the comments section of another video that apparently those files were datamined and named by a fan, so the Man_Sitting file name was just a fan interpretting that sprite and not named by Scott. I think @titan7789 is right about it being named "backdrop_26"
@@lupper backdrop_26 might not be the name scott gave it either. I'm pretty sure the original file names were lost when the game was compiled and the decompiler just spat out a generic systematic name for all the sprites. I've heard this was the case for a bunch of sprites in FNAF 1 and 2 so it might be a similar thing, as they use more or less the same engine/framework they probably use the same/similar compiler. I'm not that familiar with decomping FNAF games but I've fiddled with decomping other games before and generally most info that isn't necessary for the program to run is gutted. Compilation is inherently a lossy process, it'd be fun to have a look at all the comments variables and filenames Scott used but unfortunately that probably will not happen.
i always thought it being mrs. afton made more sense purely because of personality too. michael in his youth was shown to be a bully to his younger brother at least until his brother’s death. it would be odd to characterize him as protective when he is also actively bullying him. that shift to protective doesn’t really make sense until after the younger brother dies. the protective aspect at that point in the story would make much more sense for a mother defending her child vs someone who is actively bullying his brother
Just because he bullies his brother doesn't mean he doesn't love him💀
@@1Tombb i think it’d be a bit weird for him to be cool with traumatizing him by putting him in fredbear’s mouth but then being like “lay off him” when his dad gets home lmaooo
"Fredbear" and it really depends on if MM is earlier in the timeline, so I wouldn't say that it's definitely years later after the bite, I don't think Mike's the couch person but it's not like it's impossible, I try to respect theories y'know
@@1Tombb i’m just saying that regardless of when it takes place, if mike were the couch person the footprints have to be crying child’s. and given that mike pre-bite was always shown as a bully the protective characterization just doesn’t fit for me until after the bite. not saying that the characterization is “definitive” evidence but it just leads me personally to think it’s not mike in the chair
"always shown as a bully" in like one game
Immortal and the Restless being about William and his wife isn't as cut and dry as it seems. The logbook implies that Clara may actually represent Michael trying to prove that something is going on at Fazbears and that William is behind it.
This is a very solid theory! The only thing I would note is that text colour is mostly based on characters - for example, we could figure out who is speaking in certain mini games by matching the exact colour shade. I think that evidence is probably the weakest, but the rest are really good! MatPat also agrees the person in the chair is Mrs Afton
I've always thought it was Mrs. Afton
Midnight Motorist is implied to take place the same night Charlie is murdered, which happens after the bite of 83. Michael would be the one to run away because his relationship with his dad has turned to shit ever since CC died. We don’t know if Mrs. Afton is dead or not, so to immediately assume that she is isn’t really fair. It would make sense for her to be sitting in front of the TV, asking William to leave Michael alone. Ruling out the other family members leaves us with ONLY Mrs. Afton, because Elizabeth would be too young to stay up so late, CC is dead, and Michael is the boy who ran away. Unless a relative or friend was staying over, it has to be Mrs. Afton.
i think the tv person is henry, since the sprites name is man_sitting.
william called henry over to kill charlie, then used the excuse of "brb bro gotta do sum stuff watch over michael 4 me lol"
@@vulpevulpevulpevulpevulpevulpe the “sprites name” is backdrop 26 (its not man sitting…
@@TrickyTurtle123 the man sprite
Charlotte dies before 83, since she dies in may while bv dies in fall) also MM happens in 1985 or 1987
@@tomkubus how the fuck do you know all that
Also notice how in the couch person's sprite,the gray goes all the way down to their legs,kind of like a dress would
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Pretty interesting, but William is FULL freaking yellow color :/
Scott's designing is top notch no doubt
It looks like two piece costume, not a dress
Personally I like to believe the reason William isn’t purple in this is because he has yet to get the title “the purple guy”. Yes this does take place THE NIGHT Charlie is killed, however her body had yet to be discovered, which means there has yet to be an investigation. William only later gets the title of “the purple guy” due there most likely being a witness . However the witness only saw a man approaching Charlie and in the darkness assumed he was wearing purple, or just confused the color of the car for his clothes (the 2nd one is less likely but still possible)
I will admit this does have a decent chunk of speculation behind it, but this is FNAF we are talking about, we are rarely given things on a silver platter
Then why is he purple in the fnaf 2 minigame
@@orang9134 because that is what the minigame is what the whiteness saw
@@mazeablaze3440 What? I don't understand what you're trying to say
As others pointed out, I've never understood the "Michael is the one telling William to leave CC alone" theories due to it feeling OOC for Michael.
My interpretation of Midnight Motorist has always been that it takes place after the Crying Child died and that's why William is upset and had been going to the bar to get drunk. The person he gets angry at when he gets home is Michael because he blames him for Crying Child's death and Mrs. Afton is the one telling William to leave Michael alone.
Since people have pointed out that the sprite watching TV might not be Mrs. Afton because it's labeled as a man, I guess if Elizabeth is still alive at this time William probably left someone to watch her and Michael because he doesn't trust Michael anymore after what he did to Crying Child.
The TV person being some kind of parent or other guardian was definitely my immediate impression when seeing Midnight Motorist. I'm very surprised that people thought they were Michael -- the dialogue really doesn't match the behavior of Michael in that game.
I agree with sire squawks take that there's no possible way. The person in the chair is a child of William Afton. I mean you'd have to look at it from the perspective of them. They are drunk abusive Dad who is such a bad drunk that he was banned from a dive bar called junior's previously comes home in the rain in the middle of the night and the person in the chair tells them "go easy on them. They've had it rough" no kid in the world would ever have the balls to say that to their abusive parent. Clearly who was ever in that chair does not fear William Afton at this point. I personally love the idea that it's actually Henry Emily babysitting his surviving son because that makes the twisted irony of it all so much more impactful that while he was babysitting William Afton's kid William was out murdering his daughter.
Also, it's incredibly unlikely. The crying child was the one who broke the window and followed after the animatronic he is absolutely terrified of those things while Michael throughout the years shows that he is not afraid of getting jobs at Freddy Fazbear's and even messing with the animatronics when they aren't in kill mode
Gotta agree with it being Mike running away, Midnight Motorist is clearly right after Charlotte's death, and I just don't see that happening before the crying child dies. However, I want to propose a different take, in that I don't think its Mrs. Afton on the couch. I think it's Henry.
If you look at how the game FFPS is structured, there are four main lore minigames during the pizzeria simulation part of the game (Midnight Motorist, Security Puppet, Fruity Maze, and the Candy Cadet stories). The cool thing is that each of these minigames actually tie into other very nicely, and now I want to rant about them for a few paragraphs.
Starting with Fruity Maze, its obviously about Susie, whose name we learn from the Gravestone ending. A more minor detail that's overlooked though is how Afton uses the phrase "Follow Me" to lure her away from the arcade. That's a direct callback to FNAF3's minigames where Shadow Freddy lures the robots to the safe room. This confirms there's meant to be a connection here, those minigames were supposed to be symbolic of Afton's murders.
Why this is relevant though, is answered in the Insanity Ending when Henry references the "Follow Me" minigames. He reiterates multiple times that those minigames depict William doing something horrific to the children, in the same manner he killed them in the first place. We can attribute this to MoltenMCI, which then ties into the Candy Cadet stories. But again, there's more to this that goes overlooked. Henry declares at the end that he has to undo this wound, and that he plans to do it by bringing them all together in one place, the same wording he used to describe what William already did.
That declaration obviously sets up the plan he carries out in the true ending, where he lures the Scraps back to the FFPS building's alleyway to be destroyed... The same alleyway that his daughter was killed in decades prior, as shown in Security Puppet. 5 things get put together to be 1 thing, William does this in Follow Me, Henry does it in this game, and the Puppet does it in Happiest Day. Security Puppet also shows us that there was a weird bracelet security system, which is called out again in LEFTY's blueprint. Going deeper, notice how Lefty resembles Shadow Freddy? Well, given how his blueprint appears when Henry describes William's trap to lure the kids, Shadow Freddy, then Lefty is really just Henry's version of that trap.
With how intricately those three minigames connect to each other & the game's endings, you would think Midnight Motorist would be the same. Well, Midnight Motorist is a direct follow up to Security Puppet, so that's a connection. But besides that, what does this have to do with the plot of FFPS itself? Mike running away seems completely disconnected to everything else we see. My solution to this is that Henry is the one on the couch, and this minigame serves to tell us why Henry "failed to save her back then." He was preoccupied with Michael that night, and she was left in the care of the Security Puppet.
This is the only way that I can see Midnight Motorist being relevant to FFPS. This is my issues with theories claiming this isn't the Afton household, because that wouldn't actually tell us anything. The Purple Car would be a really weird red herring for no apparent reason.
But why should Henry be preoccupied with Michael? There isn´t really a reason why Henry would watch over Michael (which also should be an Teenager who is old enough to look after himself) and then just watching tv. Also wasn´t the Birthyday Chalie attended to her own if i remember correctly.
@@Lukas-mk8so I mean it could be something as simple as William telling Henry to do so. We know that whoever ran away has been doing so repeatedly, so there’s an established reason William would want someone in charge of him when he’s gone.
This also kills 2 birds with 1 stone, because it would be significantly easier for William to kill Charlotte if Henry isn’t in the picture, which he doesn’t seem to be given how she was locked outside the restaurant that night.
Charlotte was born in May, but she died on Halloween. At least in the novels, I don’t see why that can’t be the case in the games though.
Nope, can't be Henry. Think about it, it's just another piece of the puzzle. We know that Midnight Motorist happens on the night Afton kills Charlie outside of Fredbear/Freddy's we've probably figured it out but there's so many theories at this point yada yada yada. Henry works at Fredbear's, why would he be at Afton's couch, especially when he has his daughter at work. It can't be a time skip, for once we see the whole A to B. Also why would he be doing this in the first place? It'd most likely be because Afton asked him to babysit Michael, but if that was the case why wouldn't he bring his daughter there if he's willing to bring her to work in the first place? The only explanation I could think of is that one of the parents didn't want Charlie and Michael interacting and if that were the case why WOULDN'T he include something implying it would be bad if Charlie and Michael interacted? If he wanted to isolate Charlotte, that would be a terrible plan to do so if you think about it for more than a few seconds. Assuming that evidence were to exist, if he just wanted someone to keep an eye on Michael, then if one of them was going to skip work, then why not do it yourself at that point?
These seem like intentional writing choices made to rule out who Scott knew was the easiest candidate.
I totally agree with you. The animatronic is Golden Freddy, possessed by BV, as we can see he is more ''ghostly'' and can teleport in the games. We know it's likely BV is one of the spirits posessing him.
I believe Michael broke out because of that, he saw his brother and the mount of dirt is BV's grave.
The person in the chair could very well be Ms. Afton, and we simply don't see the Elizabeth in this minigame bc she's not important to it, and Scott didn't wanna give it away easily. The Vanessa court case story is not hard evidence that was what in fact happened with the Aftons, perhaps it was completely made up, and fnaf ar is scrapped content, it is a good theory but it is far from hard evidence to completely rule out Ms. Afton in here. Or maybe it is Henry.
Me who's seen about 4 different videos on Midnight Motorist: Ah, shit! Here we go again.
Someone might've mentioned this already, but William and Mike don't look the same in the FnaF 4 minigames. There's that short animation you can see when you're playing as Bite Victim in Freddy's where you see William putting the costume on an employee. And on those games, Michael does not look purple as Will does in that short moment. Could be nothing, but i agree with your theory for the most part. Midnight Motorist has so little information and it's so open to interpretation it could be literally a million things.
Well yes but that was before the whole "they thought I was you" line
@@Ihatedumbasses true
That's because William's in the shadows, whereas Michael's in the light.
Chair Person's text isn't even Mike's color. It's grey sure but it's a very light grey, Mike's a lot darker.
I think you make a very good point about Michael's sprite not looking enough like William's sprite, and I especially how you addressed William's sprite not being purple because he's not in the shadows. Those points to a lot to simplify how we can look at this game and can be easily overlooked, so I appreciate your video bringing this to attention!
Personally, I can really understand this theory and your resources are accurately cited. I'm almost 99% sure that the person in the chair was either Mrs. Afton or Henry, regarding the sprite's name being man_sitting or something like that. However, I'm confused about whether Charlie's death occurred before or after the bite of 83.
I didn't bring up the sprite name because I couldn't find a source saying what it actually is. Some claim it's "Man_Sitting" while others claim it's "backdrop_26". With Charlie I personally believe that she died after the bite, since if she died before, then William would have no reason to kill her. And yeah he could've just done it for no reason but that's narratively unsatisfying. I interpret that whole thing as "William blames Henry for his sons death, since it was Henry's machine that cause that bite. So one night while he's drunk, he kills Charlie as a way to get back at Henry". So the bite would be the catalyst for Williams actions throughout the series.
@@yoitskris My personal headcanon is that William has no redeemable traits. None. Nada. He killed Charlie out of opportunity, because he enjoyed killing, likely due to the sense of power.
We know he's perfectly fine torturing people with the whole devices to break Vanessa's fingers and toes thing, it's certainly believable he doesn't hold remorse since either he was breaking the classics for their remnant if you subscribe to MoltenMCI or he's doing so to cover his ass incase the bots are examined, and does so with a smile no less.
There's evidence he also tried to drive a wedge between his kids via the Fredbear plush, and he had to have made Baby and crew before he got springlocked since he told Elizabeth to not go near Baby and was interviewed about her design, and probably couldn't do that as a rotting Spring Bonnie...
@@ryanprower4246 People usually prefer a solid motive being given for something. William would likely be angry about Evan’s (C.C.’s) death and become jealous of Henry for seemingly having a better family than him.
@@yoitskrisI always thought it was William’s jealously of Henry that drove him to kill. He felt humiliated and out done so he hit Henry where it would hurt most. CC’s death wasn’t the motive for murder, it was the motive for the remnant experiments and such.
@@legendaryswagboss1631I thought it was Henry’s robotics talent and Henry having a better relationship with his daughter than William had with any of his 3 kids besides maybe Elizabeth was probably enough to send his insane self down the deep end.
I think the reason why William is portrayed as orange in this is because hes not yet immortal.Michael becomes purple after he is scooped and becomes immortal(purple eyes and flesh) .also in immortal and the restless they are also purple.
also i think this is the reason crying child isn't represented as purple cos he did done die.
Orange, yellow, it’s hard to tell. I’m going with yellow because yellow it is the complement of purple, and complementary colours are typically used to represent different sides of a character. William being portrayed as yellow here represents the alcoholic and/or abusive side to the purple serial killer we see in the other games.
@@MeemahSN springtrap is also yellow so it would make sense
I never really comment, but I like this idea. It explains the footprints too and it does make sense how golden freddy does teleport and why there's only those footprints there. commenting hoping that algorithm will get this out to others
I think the fact the nightmares are hiding in bushes on the fnaf 4 title screen suggests something different.
I'll admit, most of mike couch is based on coincidences. Yeah, tons of people watch tv, and wear grey shirts and stuff that is true, but with the minigame it feels like its trying to draw a connection to micheal and what we've seen him like through the games.
I think coincidences are still in the ballpark, as we used them to seemingly determine that the rainy day in mm and security puppet are the same, and the purple car is the purple man's car, despite rainy days happening a lot and many people owning purple cars (the ones you drive past in the mm minigame), but the point isn't that these might be coincidences, but to draw a connection between things we see other previous characters associate with. To me, it feels like less of a coincidence when i think, scott intentionally put these clues here, how could he think we wouldn't mistaken them for something else, unless its a redherring like purple man being yellow.
I also think we could base couch guy's identity by process of elimination. I think its safe to assume for a majority of the community thinks the purple guy is the yellow guy (some others don't). Knowing that this is the afton family, how many aftons have we seen wearing grey shirts and watching tv, aside from the yellow guy? The chances now become more in favor of bv, micheal, henry(babysitting the runaway kid) and ms afton now that the scope is lowered, now that its not including the other kids wearing grey shirts.
The most damaging counter argument to micheal couch guy is his personality being different. In my opinion, micheal does show signs of empathy when something does happen to bv as shown in the fnaf 4 after the bite which could explain him feeling remorseful on the runaway kid's bad day, and we never saw william and micheal's interactions with one another. The personality is also more opinionated as well, and i think it would be stranger for michal and william to tag team bv together.
About william and micheal looking like each other, most of the imagery or comments alluding to that are more of when he gets older, which would make him look more like his father, he might be too young in mm for that to be noticed. As well we don't really know what they really look like as whoever is on the couch is most likely not bald (like the kids in security puppet) and the yellow guy probably isn't yellow. Coloring the couch person yellow to signal that its micheal because he looks like his father i feel would be a bit more confusing of an approach then giving him grey astetics and making him watch tv, as now it could be that same family people are just all one color. I could also point out that both couch guy and yellow guy have crooked necks but im going into speculation here.
The text colors for couch guy and micheal could be coincidences, as the text color is based on the main sprite color, so of course two grey sprites would both have two grey text colors, but that assumes by that point that the main sprite colors are coincidences. I also think main sprite color and text color are less of a coincidence for william, as william is also associated with the color yellow with spring suits, the reverse purple hex code being yellow put into the walls of fnaf 3, and possibly even speaking in yellow like the fredbear plush's dialogue or toy chica later going on to represent william in ucn. The main sprite and text colors being sort of similar to previous characters could be intentional for reoccurring characters. Of course i wouldn't count green guy as a brand new character has to have some sort of colored text to speak in, and his identity doesn't seem to match up with anyone we've ever seen before except possibly henry but who knows.
I also think couch guy is micheal based on the file name being "man sitting" and the timeline. Man sitting increases the chances of couch guy being mike or henry, (although its a bit strange for mike to be named a man at this point where he is younger) and it heavily decreases the chances of ms afton being man sitting. I also subscribe to the theory of fredbear plush being the puppet, so for charlie to die far after bv with the interpretation of mm, i dont really think it fits well.
Also Micheal was a bully to CC (to the point of eventually causing his death) throughout the entirety of FNAF 4- if it is him in midnight motorist why would he tell William to leave CC alone? It doesn't make a lot of sense to me why Micheal would suddenly be caring towards CC whilst also relentlessly bullying him
He was a big brother.
People don't seem to get this, but it's not even a little out of the ordinary for a big sibling to be perfectly fine harassing their little sibling but still care.
I agree that the couch person isn't Michael, but the idea that Michael being a bully who went to far meaning that he didn't care about his little brother lacks perspective, especially because Michael never intentionally hurt the kid. He just liked scaring him, and that's an EASY thing for a teen to get carried away with without realizing how much emotional damage they could be doing.
Level one in Security Breach Fury's rage OST and level design downright proves WilliamMM, and saying that Afton isn't in the shadows is a bad argument, he's literally outside in the dark, if anything, he's probably this color because it's the origin of Afton, or because it's the orange man in the Fnaf 6 cutscenes and William was wearing an orange suit🤷♂️
Shadow Freddy causing the footprints is also an option too
But Shadow Freddy is (At least commonly believed to be) the remnant and agony of the MCI victims, meaning he couldn't have been there yet.
Shadow Freddy is implied to be something that William has some sort of control of. Henry's dialogue in the insanity ending implies that (at least to me) So if that's true then the only reason I can think of as to why he would be outside the window would be to try to scare whoever is in the room.
@@AngelDustMyBel0ved But how else would you show the visual appearance of a shadow entity other than actually implementing him there as a physical being? It's just like the logbook situation. Cassidy and BV aren't actually talking in the log book but this is just the best way to express the conversation between the two, we could imply thai anywhere tbh
Here's my thing, I can accept orange man not being William. But if anything, origin Midnight motorist could explain why Afton isn't purple yet
Immortal and the Restless has never truly been about the Aftons, well at least not in the way we think. Mike loves the show simply because he relates to one of the characters, not the baby, but Clara.
LITERALLY EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS WHAT I'VE THOUGHT FOR YEARS
OH MY GOD
I HAD NO IDEA THAT THIS WASN'T OBVIOUS IN THE COMMUNITY
I'm glad that this has been said
Honestly I'm like 99% sure it's actually Henry in that chair. The sprite is named "man" and after Elizabeth and the Crying Child die, ain't no way Willy A. saved that marriage. He probably lost his house to the wifey and needed a place to stay, so Henry took him in. Henry knows he's abusive, but doesn't have the heart to kick him out because that means kicking Mike out, which would make Mike's life even worse.
Mike is, of course, the one sneaking out--probably to Junior's, where his dad is banned. I also think that Junior's IS a FNAF location, the one the withereds performed at (where Charlotte got murked, hence Willy's ban). Like honestly I really like the idea of Fredbear comforting Mike at Jr.'s because they both know their dad sucks but anyways. The burial place only makes sense if this is William's OG house, which it isn't, so IDK. It's probably just a spot where Willy buries his murder tools or that dog he probably offed.
I've looked for a source for the sprite name of the couch person being "Man_Sitting" but all I've found is people saying that's what it's called. There are also people who say the sprite is called "backdrop_26".
@@yoitskris huh, interesting. I still think it's Henry regardless because it makes more sense than the other options IMO but it's good to know the sprite name might be false info.
Also I forgot to point out the obvious fact that Henry is also portrayed as gray in what was it, FNAF World? Whichever one had the scene where he talks about building Baby. But anyways.
The only thing here is that it wouldn't make much sense for this to be Henry? Especially if this is after Charlie dies. Saying William wouldn't be able to a hold a marriage while is true there's just not enough evidence to complete discard the idea this is Mrs. Afton. Like it could be the repeat abuse on Mike that makes her leave him after this. That and I don't think Henry and Mike were close enough friends for him to move in. (Especially if he knew he murdered his daughter or was a suspect for that. Which we know he was because we know in Fnaf 6 he knows William murdered his daughter despite nobody being found guilty of that crime.)
@@jayku8857 I don't think Henry believed (at the time) that William would kill Charlotte. In real life people are often stupidly in denial about that kind of thing, even if the person is convicted. And I think Henry and William WERE close. In Pizza Sim, Henry doesn't say "so don't keep the devil waiting, partner." He calls William "old friend". Even after everything Afton has done.
In fact, I think Henry was at least somewhat involved in the creation of the Funtimes for the purpose of collecting remnant. He wanted his daughter back, and William lured him in with that promise.
As for evidence of Henry's involvement:
1. The "Desk Man" in FNAF World (who I think we can all agree is Henry) says "... I didn't know what else to do. I don't want to disappoint people. But my mind isn't right. I've made something terrible. Her name is Baby. It's too late to deactivate her. I'm sorry." (This could be William but I don't think William has ever been sorry about anything lol)
2. He also made Lefty of course, and the blueprint data for Lefty and the Funtimes are found together in Egg Baby--blueprints that are all in the exact same style, as if made by one person. Not to mention's Lefty's luring features, even if they're only meant to lure Charlotte.
3. In the Insanity Ending of Pizza Sim, as we see these blueprints, Henry says "small souls trapped in prisons of my making." This could refer solely to the OG Five and Fredbear, but it might refer to the Funtimes as well.
4. "A wound first inflicted on me, but one that I then let bleed out to cause all of this." This could be Henry blaming himself unduly, but it could also be him admitting he was aware of what William was doing and let him continue. (The trap he talks about immediately afterwards is about when William lured and disassembled the animatronics btw, not about his original killings.)
Edit: Also, I think the NM minigame might take place before even the Funtimes have been made; it is absolutely possible that the Aftons share custody of Elizabeth (who is at her mother's during the minigame), but not Mike, because Mrs. Afton might want nothing to do with him after he got his brother killed.
If JR's is a bar that William is banned from rather than a FNAF location, this may be before any of the murders. Golden Freddy teleports all over the place so he could still be visiting Mike. Heck, that dirt mound might actually be where HENRY buried the Fredbear animatronic to put the past behind himself.
(Mike could still be hanging at JR's where his dad isn't allowed--maybe the owner feels bad for him. Or he's somewhere else, IDK.)
Edit edit: Also, despite my own argument, I do think there's a decent case to be made that MM takes place immediately after William kills Charlotte. In which case it definitely wouldn't be Henry at the house.
@sworishina yes, it makes sense, I agree with you. Gray is more associated with Henry and also, the figure itself looks orange or pink so it's more likely that it is Henry
EDIT: I'm changing my mind about this theory. I think MM is most likely the origin of the spirit of Golden Freddy. The Golden Freddy ghost is thought to be the "vengeful spirit" or "the one you should not have killed" and being the son of an abusive father would explain his rage. This leaves the mystery of the grave. Well, if I had to guess, I'd say it's the mother's grave. She died in childbirth and now the father resents the son for it. I can't explain why the chair person said "he's had a rough day", I think it's just to say that the runaway was suffering a lot already even before he was murdered.
One thing that's always bugged me about theory crafting with FNAF and other media that takes place from the 70s - 90s is that people are applying modern thinking and trends to older tech and mindsets. The "Michael watched TV so the couch person in FNAF 4 must be Michael cause they watch TV" clearly came from someone who never grew up in a time before the internet because that past time was so generic that it could've been literally anyone. TV was in everyone's home and everyone tuned in every day and night that it could hardly pass as a personality trait, even for the FNAF series.
It’s not just that he watches TV. Its all of it together. Calling out a “him”, probably CC. Called out in the files as “man sitting”, wearing and speaking in gray, just like michael, and being in orange man’s house, who most people believe to be william, as well as sitting in the FNAF 4 house watching TV in the middle of the night, just like Mike does. If we accept that it’s william’s house, there’s really only one reasonable explanation as to who couch man, or mor accurately, chair man could be.
There's no source for the sprite being "Man_Sitting". People just say that's what it is. There are others who claim it to be "backdrop_26". That's why I didn't bring up sprite names. It's important to do your own research when theory crafting instead of just going off of hearsay.
i agree with your interpretation because it makes more sense for William to be this cruel and aggresive toward Michael after CC's death rather than toward CC for no reason. we've never seen William treat CC that way otherwise and if the file name "later that night" means later the night of Charlotte's murder, i think MM is supposed to mean:
after probably weeks or even months of drunken grief and rage, William's emotions come to a head during a moment of opportunity and he murders Charlotte, leaving her in the alley behind Fredbear's, where she would go on to possess the puppet. William then drunkenly speeds home, tries to stop at the bar for a drink before the bouncer reminds him of his suspension/ban and sends him away. when he gets home, he's still going. the lingering adrenaline of his first kill and his chronic grief, as well as the new anger at being denied access to the bar, have him bursting into his house in a fit, stomping in and making a beeline for Michael's room. His wife, having dissociated since the day of their son's death, sighs out a plea to leave their other son alone for the night. he's still taking his brother's death very poorly, especially considering the circumstances.
this just angers William more. why should Michael be allowed to grieve? he's the reason for the grief at all! so William storms right up to Michael's door and demands it be opened before realizing it's locked and going around to see the window broken and Michael gone. He muses that Michael has gone to "that place" (his brother's grave) again, and starts deciding on a punishment for when he returns. It's not known whether or not he notices the footprints that Fredbear, possessed by his younger son, left on the ground when spurring Michael to break his window and visit the grave.
I'm not great at remembering the finer details of the series so if I got anything wrong please correct me! This is just what I think it's telling us.
I'm being troubled by Midnight Motorist, so I thought about checking out other people's theories, and coincidentally, I came across your video. And then my mind opened up, I really resonate with your theory about the colors of characters and the explanation of "that place." I really love your theory! This will add to "my perspective on the FNAFs' storyline". Thank you for making this!
I think that the man sitting on the couch could be Henry taking care of Michael since William would be drowning his sorrows in alcohol for the death of Crying Child, and that is why William went to kill Charlie that night since he knew that Henry would be busy taking care of Michael
Exactly! It isn't Mrs Afton because she isn't important to the story, according to Scott, and nothing indicates that it's her. I don't think it's Mike as well because Mike is probably the one who left the house after his brother died
The sprite is called "Man-sitting." I feel like if it was meant to be Mrs. Afton, it wouldn't be called Man-sitting. The mini game is also called, "Later that night." I think this implies that this is after William kills Charlie, since in Save Him, (which is just an older version of the Security Puppet game), we see that William gets out of his PURPLE CAR, kills Charlie, and drives away. What do we see in Midnight Motorist? A man speeding down a highway (likely in a state of panic after a murder), in a PURPLE CAR. I think the couch potato we see is Henry, William likely having him watch Michael after he killed Evan. This is why Henry isn't at the restaurant when Charlie dies. In my head, he was so furious at Michael, but decided that a drive would help him think. He eventually stopped at Freddy's, saw Charlie, and still filled with Rage, violently took his anger out the daughter of the man that made the machine that killed his son. Then he drives home in a panic.
There's no good source that says the sprite is called Man_Sitting. Some people claim that it is, but others say it's actually called "backdrop_26". It's hard to know what's true cause there's a lot of misinformation that's spread around. That being said, that doesn't disprove Henry being the couch person, I just don't think that he is. Other than that I agree with you for the most part.
I always thought the man in the couch was Henry. Think about how fucked up that would be
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Maybe but if so why would he be at William's house and not running Fredbear's or Freddy's?
I mean it's just a dinner, it's probably only open in the daytime. The couch person could just be a babysitter, and that makes it darker if it's Henry because William just killed Henry's daughter the same night
@@yoitskris he's just the owner, it isn't necessary for him to be there every shift
@@juaniferritto165 Fair enough but I would assume since his kid is there he would also wanna be there. Even with the security puppet watching her. Then again maybe he just thought that the puppet would be good enough.
That actually makes a lot of sense
The "I solved the (fnaf unresolved material)" has to be the most overused tittle card for a fnaf theory
I couldn’t tell if you were saying that that dirt pile on the side of the road was the crying child’s grave, but if you were then that would explain this whole thing pretty well
In the logbook Michael compares himself to Clara instead of the baby, which still fits well since William doesn’t care about crying child wellbeing in fnaf 4
So it still makes sense personality wise that Michael is the one in the chair
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This is a good one! Good job!
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I don't think Michael is the one watching the TV either and that the part is about the family too! You suggesting Michael visited his brother's grave is so sad:( I'll totally take it as an option! lol
You showed this idea really well, good job!
The way I see it is that all the hidden minigames are showing how afton killed his first victims. He killed Charlie, then he kills the chica girl by luring her with her dead dog, then he kills this third kid by luring him outside the window. The feet match spring bonnie's and we have the toy chica cutscenes in UCN describing how he lured someone through a window and saying something about one of them having their dog ran over and them luring them inside after. I think that since he killed Susie in the restaurant as she was playing an arcade game in the building, and brought the second child back to the pizzeria, these are the original 2 missing kids from the fnaf 1 newspapers. Charlie isn't included in the missing children since her body wasn't missing but just left outside. I believe that Charlie is probably not killed on the same night as she is killed during the main hours, and it is still raining so spring locks wouldn't be able to go outside. Chances are William killed the other two kids the night that CC was killed as a vengeful outburst towards kids that he saw mistreated his son, which is why he targeted them
It couldn't be William using the spring bonnie suit cause it's raining. He would die instantly the second he walks outside.
@@yoitskris it’s raining when the dad comes home, we don’t know when the actual kidnapping took place
@@natemorelock5302I would assume it couldn't have been that long ago. It's raining heavily in the minigame so if the footprints were made a while ago, how have they not been washed away by the rain? Also if yellow guy isn't William then who else would he be?
@@yoitskris I mean to be fair if it had been raining while the suit was there, they would’ve washed away too. So I’m saying maybe he takes the kid and goes back, the drunken man drives home and it starts raining when he gets near his neighborhood like how the rain starts when you’re in the secret area. Of course there is the chance that they didn’t add rain to midnight motorist just because it wouldn’t have fit really, but who knows. Also I feel like chances are the orange guy is just a random father of a victim. I don’t see why the orange guy has to be purple guy. Especially because it’s just weird to me that he is orange 😂 also I don’t see how michael seeing an animatronic outside his window would possess him to chase it. I don’t remember if you explained that since it’s been a while since I saw your vieeo
Honestly, it just doesn't make sense for William to walk all the way to a kid's WINDOW to kidnap them.
i noticed that the chair the character is sitting in is also an orange/yellow color, but if you look at the chair located in Michael's room from FNAF SB, the chair looks to be originally a brown/orange leather color, either that or it was purple. but it looks like someone took a yellow/orange paint and sprayed it all over the chair. if you look at it from behind, there's the yellow/orange spray paint on the back. im not sure if that really means anything but just a detail i noticed
"I think its Mrs. Afton"
game text: "Leave HIM alone tonight. HE had a rough day"
That's the person on the couch talking about the runaway kid.
The reason why William Afton is yellow/orange in this game is because we’re playing as him and that’s how he sees himself and he’s probably wearing a coat while others see him in the purple in the shadows
I generally agree with Mike being the runaway, but I don’t think Clara is meant to be a parallel to Mrs Afton, I think it’s more likely a parallel to Mike, mainly because Mike says that he relates to Clara in the survival logbook “because everything about this place is crazy and no one seems to notice except for me”, there are a few other reasons but that is the main one since it’s the only time immortal and the restless gets mentioned after it’s first appearance.
(Also another big point is that Clara burns Vlads house down, an obvious parallel to Mike burning down Fnaf 3 if you believe it was Mike that did that)
My thought on the yellow thing is it might be relating him to the golden bonnie suit. It might be William coming home in a costume similar to the one seen on Glitchtrap.
The person sitting by the TV is definitely Henry, the figure looks masculine and nothing indicates that it is Mrs Afton since Scott himself said that she isn't relevant to the story and she wasn't present in any of the previous games. I think that Henry was watching over Mike in Williams house when William was at the bar, drowning in his sorrow for two reasons: his childrens deaths and wifes divorce, he lost two children the same year - 1983. Mike is the only surviving child who lives until his death in Fnaf 6.
the guy watching tv could be the mimic or a babysitter
How could it be the Mimic?
How i wish colors where consistent in the atari minigames of the Fnaf series, it would make everything so much easyer if Characters just had consistent color coding and text colors.
This makes a ton of sense.
There was a dsiware game I played called photo dojo where u take cutout pictures of someone to play a basic fighting game, when I was bored i took photos of solid colors and the resulting fighters looked like yellow man from midnight motorist
One thing I have against this is that right after saying vlad was meant to represent William because the game came out before he had a yellow sprite, and then right after saying Michael is the kid because he looks like vlad and Michael had a purple sprite when the purple sprite for Michale wasn't a thing yet.
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I thought the books alludes to a relative taking care of the boys, be it a aunt or grandmother after William who went off the deep end or after being a police suspect on the run. So couch person is a caregiving relative of yellow man (William Afton). I think.
Well the couch is the same orange, maybe a tad darker.
A story of alcohol and old pizza places. Very simple
Ooh, good call on the fact that Michael looks nothing like his father if that's him in the minigame. With the context that the minigame came with, it would make much more sense for him to actually look like William if that were him.
Damn good theory.
Michael is actually Clara and immortal and the restless is about mikes gaslight
The security logbook confirms this
this actually makes sense not gonna lie
I need a 3 part Matpat reaction to this video 😂
Bro making PEAK content
Well on the Sister Location map it shows that the Aftons’ house is connected to fredbears family diner so william wouldnt need to drive all that way to his house would he? So it might not be William Afton, I know Midnight Motorist seems like the aftermath of Charlie’s death but why would william need to drive that far to get to his house? It’s literally right near fredbears so why would he need to drive that distance?
I would take a good look at the title screen of fnaf 4, the nightmares are hiding in the bushes, and what is right behind the footprints in MM?
I think the footprints belong to one of the nightmares and if I had to guess, I'd guess Nightmare fredbear is most likley. BV is scared of fredbear specifically (the only time "don't you remember what you saw" is said, its in the pressence of fredbear and fredbear is the Nightmare that Mike draws in the logbook.
Nightmare Fredbear has 4 toes while the footprints have 3. Also I think BV is scared of the springlock suits specifically. Mainly because the quote "don't you remember what you saw is said if you try to walk towards the stage (where the springlock animatronics are) before you leave, and also because of the easter egg with purple guy helping the employee put on a suit, and the quote from Scott a while ago "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child." I interpret BV's fear as him probably seeing an employee being helped into a suit and he misunderstood it as the employee getting stuffed into the suit. That's why there's rumors about people being stuffed into animatronics.
@@yoitskris yea I feel you. My explanation kinda hinges on the toes and whether or not that's important. But I do wanna point out that BV never runs from springbonnie, only fredbear. Which we never see him not run from springbonnie either, but that with most things when trying to figure out MM.
The sprite of the Mrs Afton watching TV is named "Man_sitting" or something similar. So it throws a wrench on the theory that Mrs Afton is the one watching tv
I've searched for a source for that sprite name and all I've found is just people saying that's what it is without an actual source. So I'm hesitant on using sprite names as evidence for anything.
Ok hear me out these mini game lore dumps all share a theme. They show us how important characters died. We know out of the 5 kids 2 to 3 to them where lured into the back room of Freddie's during g normal business.
That leads 2 to 3 kids whose deaths are a mystery fruity maze shows us how sussie died and could be how he lured victim 4 in a similar fashion.
The puppet game reveals Charlie's death.
So whose left? Cassidy
The rain and care color are red hairings so it wouldn't be to obvious. I mean Scott made the fnaf director cast mat pat as a character named Ness.
He is clearly not above trolling.
Cassidy lives in an abusive household with her dad and a mother who acts like the voice of reason but doesn't do anything to stop it.
Freddy's is her happy place a place where she doesn't worry about getting beat or screamed at. Afton being an owner takes notice of her since she runs off to here often he also notices her abusive dad and negligible mother. And decides she'd be a perfect victim as no one would report her gone most likely. So under the guise of spring bonnie he slowly builds up her trust. Till one night he shows up. And takes her to Freddy's one last time it's easy cause she trusts bonnie. He then kills her at Freddy's. The combination of her only happy place being tainted and having the only friend she ever had kill her. Turns her into the vengeful spirit we know.
You shouldn't of killed her.
Because friends don't kill each other.
In the files "mrs. Afton" is called man on couch so it couldn't be mrs afton
Just something I noticed. What about the chair the person sits in? It is orange ???
I've always thought this same thing about _The Immortal and the Restless._ I mean that's gotta be it right? Or are there 2 Mrs Aftons? First one leaves or dies during the first MCI, she's the mom of Michael. Secondb Mrs. is the mom of Elizabeth and crying child since they seem much younger than Michael. And that is a good reason for Michael to torment crying child, his "new mom" replaced his mom and now she had another son and is trying to replace him?! That could be why he torments him but his last words to his lil brother prove he always cared even if it was through a mask of pranking him.
Very good theory and I already mentioned about this theory and another solid piece of evidence is michael is always depicted with hair until he turned into a rotten corpse and he wasnt that yet. So therefore it couldnt be michael. Also like you said with golden freddy I also thought of that with the crying child inplamenting that the ceying child had to of been before charlie since that grave was there and that game was after charlies death. Well congrats on your theory I really loved it
I like this but have some curiosity on timing of deaths then that is confusing me.
If crying child from game 4 is dead already, then elizabeth is already dead, ie the Game 4's empty Girls room.
Which usually implies that Afton has already built the capture animatronics that killed elizabeth.
The issue is that he needs a reason to have built Baby like this, which is usually given as Charlie's Puppet causing the discovery of hauntings. and him wanting to experiment on haunted objects by killing kids.
But we know this is the night Charlie dies (Later that night, purple car in the rain). So that reason for elizabeth's deatt is nulled?
This assumes that Baby's capture mechanic was on purpose, and not just an accident with the internal cake holding device screwing up. The later blueprint of baby shows direct child kidnapping features, but this could be fixed by the featues being added after baby was haunted though.
So it being michael visiting the crying childs grave feels right, but the orange guy being william feels weird with the assumptions.
Just getting some thoughts out there, hope they made sense and are interesting.
This is exactly what I think
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Those are some amazing points I also believe that the yellow guy is william and that the person in the chair isn't michael I think it's Ms.afton and the run away is michael but i believe the foot print either belongs to golden freddy or shadow freddy amd that evan is haunting michael
Definitely think this is spot on
I am glad that it's Mrs Afton
we can say that the kid in tv is crying child and the kid that run outside is mike, in 1983 after charlie death
but before the bite of 83 i think
the part of mike run somewhere in a location can be freddy's after mike see charlie body and puppet
But why would Charlie be dead if the bite of 83 hasn’t occurred yet?
Because i think willian dont like henry sucess, Because he drunk
Or Because he is a joker recording tapes i dont know
If he’s only purple when in the shadows then why is the employee standing next to him not purple?
Counterpoint Micheal and William had very different sprites in fnaf 4
That was supposed to be the final game in the series, so Michael wasn't even related to William back then.
This is a really good theory and tbh I think that's what it was supposed to be but I still disagree with the immortal and the restless point because in the security logbook Mike says that he relates to Clara meaning that Clara is supposed to represent Michael
what is the music at the end called?
Last Breath from Ultimate Custom Night
I would love to agree because it looks like a great connection (many people proved it too) but I'm too stubborn and I still believe my own head canon since I feel right about it and I got myself glued to it. Looking at theories is cool, some of them have great perspective of things, but I love my own narrative way of how things could look like.
Although, this is a great video.
Edit: Some things that are already proved canon don't apply to the head canon as well, like Cassidy being a missing child and not C.C, that the bite C.C dies in is 1983 and not 87, or Mrs. Afton cannot be the CEO for an obvious reason. I'm still thinking about The Mimic that people have been talking about recently more (one of the Pizza Plex books) where it can be proven Burntrap may not be Afton.
I think William Afton is Purple guy sounds like a stretch but hear me out
How so?
It's so entertaining to see how this community talks about these things. A few days ago I was watching a video about someone talking about how midnight motorist shows that william's wife died of cancer because the person in the couch is bald, which could imply they are going through chemotherapy, and they have a gray mantle covering the rest of the body, which is common among people going through chemo, as if can damage the body's temperature regulation, and now i'm watching this video where you are arguing that, contrary to popular belief, that person can't be mike.
This stuff is so complicated that in some places it seems like some things are 100% established while in others it seems like nobody considered it. Just goes to show how big the community is and how complex this lore is
It’s mike with gray shirt and black hair that doesn’t show on the black background 😭
In that case, it would affect the lore greatly and she would play an important role in the story but since she isn't very important to the story according to Scott, then it's more likely that it's Henry who is taking care of Mike at Williams house
@@wirginiamobillio I mean... if in midnight motorist we find out that she has cancer then it makes sense that she has no important role, as it would mean that she dies very early in the timeline
If I’m honest all the theory is great
But the thing is the sprite of the person sitting on the couch is name man sitting is the problem, don’t get my wrong Mrs. Afton works here very well like the person on the couch, the thing that screws the theory is the name of the sprite.
Scott has a habit of changing character names. Golden Freddy’s original character file was called yellow bear. “Golden Freddy” came later.
Man sitting isn’t true. That name is actually Backdrop 26 (I don’t know who spreaded that miss info.)
@@MeemahSN yep that’s right
@@TrickyTurtle123 oh really? If that’s the case maybe this theory can work
Because when I thought about the name of the sprite o was thinking that it could be mike, but that isn’t the case here, or Henry, the case here was that Henry could be there to take care of micheal because the bite victim already died and William was on a depressed state. So Henry was taking care of Micheal and then he killed Charlie, then Henry will notice this and the story would continue, the like the theory of mrs. Afton or Henry’s, the problem with Henry is that why he would left his own daughter alone in the pizzeria without anyone.
The bubble clearly says “leave HIM alone” not leave her alone.
That's the person on the couch speaking, not William.
Say it louder for the people in the front!
I have a counterargument . The sprite of the character seen watching TV not looking like William's (orange guy) does not mean anything. By now, its practically a fact that Michael is the foxy mask brother, yet his sprite in that game doesnt look like William (who is seen briefly helping an employee in the spring bonnie costume) in that game either. Also, something that you, and I think many people, have overlooked, is that the character watching TV on the couch, also has what appears to be a brown face (or maybe thats just me), which in my opinion is meant to represent michael wearing the Foxy mask. also, ive seen other people saying that the minigame is titled 'later that night' in the files, suggesting that this happens directly after William kills charlotte. I think the animatronic footprints are from one of the twisted/nightmare animatronics (likely nightmare fredbear), created by illusion discs which William uses to prevent crying child from trying to run off to freddy's again. Note how William isnt surprised to see the footprints next to the house. I think this minigame shows how crying child ran off that night to fredbear's and probably discovered charlotte's dead body. Putting two and two together... him seeing a nightmare fredbear outside his window and later seeing charlotte's body, probably results in him jumping to the conclusion that fredbear, or an animatronic, likely killed her.
Mike not looking like William in fnaf 4 isn't relevant as that plot point was introduced in Sister Location. People seem to forget that fnaf 4 was planned to be the end of the series at one point, and the idea of purple guy being the father of Mike and the crying child wasn't a thing yet. Using small details like that from the first 3 or 4 games to solve things from later games doesn't work because the modern story we have now isn't the same as the story we had when there were only 4 games. William Afton as a character wasn't introduced until 5 months AFTER fnaf 4. As for couch person's face being brown, and that "connecting" to foxy, the thing is that foxy isn't brown, he's red. So that detail doesn't even line up. The footprints outside the window have to be an animatronic with 3 toes(cause the footprints have 3 toes each) and NM Fredbear has 4 toes, and I don't think it could be any of the other nightmares either because (at least to me) it's implied that they don't exist until after the bite. The code in Sister Location to reveal the cameras of the fnaf 4 house is 1983. You don't make the code to spy on someone the current year. That would just be random and arbitrary. It would make much more narrative sense if the code being used was significant in some way to William, and conveniently, 1983 happens to be the year his son died. The nightmares in my opinion were made as a way to lash out at Michael as sort of revenge for accidentally killing CC. William creating complex robots with sound discs that manipulate your brain into seeing things differently, just so he can scare his son into not wanting to go to the restaurant that *he owns*, seems like way too extreme of a measure. Also if CC is already scared because of seeing Charlie's body, why would William feel the need to scare him even more if he's already scared? It's just excessive and unnecessary. We don't need a minigame explaining why CC is afraid. Scott already told us what he's afraid of back during fnaf 4 with the quote "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child." He's afraid of the springlock suits after witnessing an employee being helped into one in a dark room. That exact thing can be seen in fnaf 4 as an easter egg. That's why CC still likes the freddy's characters. If he thought Fredbear (or some other character) killed Charlie, why would he still keep the plushies of the characters in his room? William not being surprised about the footprints at the window is weird, but it's not like he says something like "it didn't work..." when you walk near the footprints. He doesn't comment on them at all (Possibly because he's drunk.) Maybe he just doesn't know what to think about them and has nothing to say. At the end of the day, you can believe whatever you want to. All I'm trying to do is give evidence for why a certain interpretation of things makes the most sense to me.
@@yoitskris @YoitsKris Yea i agree it's open to interpretation. Also i dont think William created the illusion discs just to scare crying child. I agree with you on how William may have used the illusion disc technology against Michael. However, i believe William initially planned to use it for a more sinister purpose , though he also used the nightmares to scare crying child to stay away from the restraunts after elizabeth's death and avoid a repeat of that situation. While ot might seem strange that crying child would still consider the plushies his friends if this were true, it should be noted that crying child has the fredbear plush, which he considers a 'friend', despite being afraid of the fredbear animatronic. My point is this. Just because he is afraid of the actual life sized animatronics, that doesnt give him a reason to fear the plushies.
@@forbiddenmemez4786 Elizabeth dying before CC is impossible. We know that Circus Baby's rentals opens after a Freddy's closes as stated by hand unit. The first freddy's closed in either 1983/1985 depending on what you believe. Yes, that is just the rental location that hand unit talks about so I understand the argument of "oh well maybe Circus Baby's Pizza World opened earlier in the timeline" because we know Pizza World is where Elizabeth dies, however there is one thing that implies that Pizza World opened later on. Back when we where waiting for Sister Location to come out, the teaser "Cancelled due to leaks" came out. That teaser is the first thing that told us that Pizza World closed on it's first day open, however there was more stuff (I believe it was in the source code) on Scott's website. There were quotes from people talking about the restuarant closing and one of them was “If anything, it was just too soon for such an ambitious venture. There is still a bright future for Circus Baby, so be watching for her to appear at a neighborhood party near you!” That implies that Circus Baby's rentals opens shortly after Pizza World shuts down. And since we know the rental place opened after Freddy's closes, that must also be true for Pizza World.
@@yoitskris I remember people saying stuff about the source code containing quotes of someone talking about the abrupt closure of circus baby's despite the initial hype and public anticipation for it opening. However, i dont remember their being anything to suggest circus baby rentals opened directly after circus baby's pizza world closed due to elizabeth's death. Naturally, I would think William would wait a while before opening the rental service so as to let the suspicion die down a bit, but thats just my head canon. However if we were to assume elizabeth didnt die before cc, does that mean she dies shortly after his death by the time midnight motorist occurs, considering she is nowhere to be seen in that minigame ? Also, why isnt she seen anywhere in fnaf 4 ? And ik her character wasnt exactly conceptualized at that point, but im trying to retroactively make sense of all this. Her absence in fnaf 4 can be explained away by saying she was with mrs afton at the time. Her absence in midnight motorist, however, which likely takes place in mrs afton's house, considering that its different from the fnaf 4 minigame house and your theory about mrs afton being the person on the couch, suggests that after cc's death, William had already opened circus baby's and elizabeth was already killed, so maybe midnight motorist happens a few months after cc's death. This i believe is logically sound, but if the crying child didnt see baby getting killed, then what did he see ? The fredbear plush, or william speaking through it, tells cc to remember what he saw, so whatever cc saw, William somehow is aware of it and likely orchestrated it, now the only question is why ? Since its also implied that this is the same night charlotte was killed the order of the deaths would be cc, followed by elizabeth and then charlotte. Srry for the long comment but i really had to state my thoughts on the matter
Elizabeth dies after the MCI, considering how Pizza World opens after Freddy's closed, and Freddy's shut down because of the MCI. CC dies while Freddy's is still open. So that would just leave Charlie's death. I believe the order is CC, Charlie, MCI, Elizabeth. There is still room for debate for who died first between CC and Charlie. There's evidence for both sides, but I think context can help figure things out. Charlie died at Fredbears (at least in the books she does) and the MCI happens sometime after that, meaning Fredbears would have to be closed by the time the MCI happens. We know that kids being murdered/going missing gets Freddy's shut down. It happens multiple times. CC's death was just a freak accident. Bullying gone too far. Murdered kids would lead to an investigation of the place and get it shut down, but an accident like the bite doesn't need an investigation like that (especially considering that people were likely told what happened). So I don't think the bite would be enough to get the place shut down. If William just got done killing Charlie in the minigame, then the MCI hasn't happened yet, meaning Elizabeth is still alive. Her not being in Midnight Motorist could just be that she's not relevant to it. She can literally be anywhere at that point, so just because we don't see her doesn't mean she's dead. CC's fear isn't as complex as people make it out to be. Based on the quote from Scott "What is seen in shadows is easily misunderstood in the mind of a child" whatever CC saw was likely something mundane for instance, an employee being helped into a springlock suit in a dark room. CC thinks something bad happened but he misunderstood the event. CC would likely tell William (as he owns the place) and maybe William thought "hmmm these suits are dangerous, so maybe I should feed into my son's fear a bit so he won't ever want to get near the suits." The whole quote of "remember what you saw?" only shows up when you try to walk towards the stage, indicating that whatever's on the stage(which are the springlock animatronics) is what he should be staying away from. So again, the order (to me) of who died is, CC, Charlie, MCI kids, then Elizabeth. Again if you still disagree, then that's ok. I'm just trying to come up with a narrative for the story that isn't unnecessarily convoluted.
I love this theory!!
And you're a genius
I Disagree for one thing it’s called a he in the mini game also we’ve only seen micheal or crying child watching tv and if crying child is running away and mrs afton we NEVER see and Elizabeth might be dead then it’s Micheal most likely
I think the orange person in midnight motorist is Mrs Afton
I agree that shoadowy characters are important to the game but I thought he was purple because of the freddys security uniform??
While I definitely agree with Michael Motorist, I think the sprites not looking alike is weak evidence, considering the fact we've seen Mike and William in the same minigame before - the fnaf 4 minigames, and their sprites look absolutely nothing alike
Fair argument. Counter argument:The whole plot point about Mike and William looking similar didn't show up until Sister Location. It's easy to forget that fnaf 4 was gonna be the last game in the series so the idea wasn't in Scott's head at that point. Skip ahead to fnaf 6, where that detail has been repeated multiple times by then. Then we see a minigame with William and who some think is Mike, and they look nothing alike. Using the older games to solve later games doesn't work because a lot of stuff was changed by the time Sister Location released. That's why Scott says he likes to clarify things in later games. I think by the time SL released, Scott had the whole story figured out(at least up until UCN).
4:27 Except fiction writing doesn't work this way. Everyday logic doesn't apply here; only given facts. If only one character is seen doing something and then some unidentified one is doing the same thing, then the connection either means something, or it's FNAF. Fiction isn't real life. And not that many people watch TV nowadays, too, or so I think. :V
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I agree this is pretty solid for me! 👍🥚