Are you planning to buy Audi S4 B6, B7 with 4.2 V8? Small advise what to look at !
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- Another S4 B6/B7 content. I decided to film this video as advice if you are planning to buy one of these cars. Jordan brought us his S4 for just ''Chain replacement '' and after we removed the engine the job was almost canceled because of these issues ....Make sure you check the car properly before purchasing one and definitely have some spare funds to service it, on the end of the day it's still a 15-20 year old higher performance car.
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This is my car featured in the video, yes it was an expensive repair bill. However Tom was amazing and the car is back to how it should be. I had to save it.
4000 pounds for the car and 6000 for repairs before its even in adequate condition? You sir, are silly person.
@@mortaljorma69 Guess how much that car is worth now though with all that done? Yup. Probably over 12,000. Esp in today’s market.
Jordan, you made the right decision, no doubt!
@@mortaljorma69 big displacement NA motors are a thing of the past. Maybe not a collector car yet, but definitely could be in the future. Plus it's better than throwing your money away on hookers and blow.
Thank you for the ability to learn from your car and the common issues. You not only paid for a good car for yourself, you also contributed to a video that saves lots of bad purchases in the future. We'll should pay you 10 dollars for the advice.
This is great public service broadcasting that should help reduce subscriber buyer remorse. You come across as an honest, trustworthy and knowledgeable vehicle repair business. That's a great credit to you all, especially is todays murky world of car repairers. Thank you.
I have a audi s4.it will not start unless I use a jump lead what do you think the problem is pls mate and the next thing I want to inprove my performance so I do need you help pls mate
@@jamesnorman8696 have you replaced the battery ? If you have, does it not start after the car sits a while?
@@jamesnorman8696 you should probably not own a audi.
With Spending 2k on a timing chain. Are these b6's going up or down in value at the moment.
Very cool video. I have a 2005.5 B7 S4 Avant manual (US spec) and I paid 5,000 USD for it with 190,000 miles on the clock. It was in INFINITELY better condition than this one. Makes me really glad I found it when I did and purchased it. I had no history on timing chains but I figured for the miles on it when I bought it, it nearly certainly had to have been done. It still only rattles for about 2-3 seconds on a cold start and then quiets right up. Currently sitting at 226,000 miles and going strong. It burns a lot of oil at this point, but I'm sure the valves seals and piston rings are tired. I did do all the thermostat and water pump housing and o-rings, valley pan gasket, oil filter housing o-rings and oil cooler o-rings a year ago. Overall it's been one of the most enjoyable cars I've ever driven. It's not fast but it sounds fantastic with catless downpipes and a full Magnaflow resonated RS4 exhaust. Glad to see you guys keeping these old beasts on the road. They are a treat to drive.
If it rattles for a few seconds on crank, then it's the oil check valves. They're under the intake manifold, it's an hr long job.
Basically what they do is keep oil pressure/tension on the chain guides. When one goes out, there's no pressure on the tensioners so there's chain slap on startup.
They're cheap, I replaced mine when I put the ported manifold on. Most of the time it's their fault that causes the guides and tensioners to fail since everything is loose and dry on startup.
My son has a B5 S4. I totally concur on everything you just did. Nice work!!
As someone looking into buying a used audi, this video was very insightful and helpful! Thank you very much!
I must say excellent channel and information on what to look for, repairs are never cheap especially like your work is first class👌👌👌
Mate this video is worth 10 million pounds! Just absolutely and informative and well rounded video! Really well done job sir, congrats!!!
The comparison of rattles is invaluable! Thanks!!!!!!
Brilliant informative video as usual, my b6 S4 is dripping oil for fun at the moment, not got round to looking at it, but your tips certainly help, keep up the good work and I may be contacting you guys in the very near future 👍
Great video - in my opinion, the price and your labor was a steal, well done. Love my B6 S4 Avant, nothing out there like it, love seeing people keeping them going.
This was SUCH a helpful video. Not only did you talk us through what to look for but also what to LISTEN and LOOK for with examples! A+++. Thank you. I loved my Audi but had to get rid of it when things started to go south. Sold it to my mechanic as he know he could fix it for less and make a good profit. Win win…But I have wanted to buy another because I loved it and it looked amazing. Thanks.
Great video and thanks for sharing the costs, which should help people understand how much it actually can cost to fix these cars. Al;so, sharing the profit helps people understand, but you maybe could have shared how much time you devoted to this so that the ‘haters’ understand how much effort you put in! Keep up the great work,
Love your video, planning on buying a b6 s4, will definitely look out for these issues
I bought an rs4 b7 2006 in 2013 absolutely great car and other than an auxiliary radiator was bad I didn’t have any problems phew they can’t all be bad but the more I look into Audis I realise that maintenance is so important and just can’t be left more importantly than on other manufacturers
Always great videos
Thanks guys
I thought about buying one of these in the past… This guy is awesome… And if I were to consider in the future I’d certainly heed all of his recommendations. Too bad I can’t find a mechanic like this in Cincinnati Ohio
This guy definitely a Audi wizard, top man 🙌🏽
Even though I drive a BMW 435d I absolutely love this channel ❤️ did own a 2009 a4 at one point and was a great car 👍
Very honest work and costing. Sounds a lot of money but for the amount of work and cost of parts that’s normal.
Great video and great info on the S4 b6/7 cars, thing I notish the past 1,5 years i have one that all S4 have the same issues, so when its done its done and taken off the bill you always get when you own one. Like check valves, leaking oil filter housing seals, leaking power steering return hose, valve cover seals, intake manifold flapper noise, external radiators leakage, a/c unit bearing and so on and so on. It can be a pain in the ass sometimes but you forget it all if you are driving it with a big smile on your face, realy nice cars.
Great work guys! Love the content and the car looks great 👍
great job with the s4! really enjoyed the video on saving the s4! I have an rs4 and spent 10k euro so it could drive it happily. If only Im in your area I would of brought it to you seeing you have a great knowledge and passion! New subscriber added!
I dont even own an audi, or planning to in the new future, but i appreciate the honesty and the transparency. As some people sad in the previous comments, these are rare attributes in todays world.
Brilliant video, Love your content, having owned a b6 s4 for 6 years they are very expensive, apart from timing chains, mine had steering rack issues, engine mounts which were torn in half, air con shaft snapped, gear for the air con in the engine splines were no more, power steering pump wine, gearbox linkage issues, good car but for me they are too old now
Great video, very informative, and nice work taking all that work on. Most shops here will decline doing 4.2 timing chains... Also love how most of the B6/7 dont have sunroofs!
I have enjoyed a lot to see your amazing job, how you do a complicated job looking easy, thanks for share a lot of details to do during the jog, Adios from Spain
Really like these S4/S5 videos👍🏽👏🏽
Example sounds are the best thank you
My mate has just bought a black on black RS4 Avant.
Bloody lovely.
Changed his mind on an RS6 on my advice. Hope he made the right choice.
fantastic insight! thanks for this one guys!
I live in Australia and I am looking at buying a B7 S4 and if I go ahead I will fly to the seller and drive the S4 back home a 1600k trip. Glad I found this clip on YT now I know what to look for and have made a list to ask the seller. Even if I don’t buy I did hit Like 👍 and subscribed 😁
Great work! i agree with too much work on this car. For years, I have been buying CPO cars and let the dealer take the risk. Yes, I pay more but the Audi's I have bought like this, (4 of them) two had almost 300K on them and the other two over 130,000 miles and running great. My A6 with a 3.2 has 267,000 miles with original timing chain too.
great video, especially part with engines sounds.
My S4 B7 does what that grey B7 S4 did on start up, I was really worried but now that you said that I’m kinda relieved.
Good advice.
Will help to reduce the amount of people being burnt buying these ticking time bombs of an engine.
I’ve had several Audis over the years 4/5 and 6 cyl engines but what I see here really puts me off them.
Very informative and true 👍🏻 good work
Still my dream car... very informative video
Congrats, excellent video, regards from México.
Great video. I have a k04 B5 S4 and a noggy B6 S4. It's a great car. I've only had to swap a sensor or 2 over 130k miles. I've got to pull the motor still and do the cam chain job. Not looking forward to that job
Such a fun car to drive! Drove a new 2006 s4- 4.2 V8. So great to drive BUT NOT engineered to last. Fun to drive new. Shit longevity
Sound advice very interesting video 👌👍
you guys do a great job! one-day i am sure to bring a project to you :-)
Currently going through my B6 S4, pretty much every issue I've found was brought up in this video. I've never seen oil leaks cause so much collateral damage, every rubber part under the valve covers was toast. Definitely didn't know what I was getting into when I bought it.
Looking for a RS4 B7 soon , brilliant channel ,👍
Good to know I dodged a bullet or two when I bought my b6 S4. I bought it from a dealer with warrantee but I still went over the car and no problems whatsoever. Only thing I don’t love is the slightly vague steering and clutch feel which can be fixed with aftermarket attention . . .
Fantastic work m8
Great stuff!!!
B8 rs5 and dsg gearbox issues next please 🙏
Excelent! Congrats!
Awesome video 👍👍👍👍
I come back to this video about once a month to check how my S4 B6 should sound like under the bonnet. Seems like its all fine today! Thanks for the comparison of the chain rattle!!
Still good!
@@abrahambruins5568 hahah any word??
Excellent video, the dead spider joke cracked me up :'D many ppl don't realise that these cars might be cheap to buy but maintenance wise just as expensive as a new S4 and the added wear and tear makes it even more costly game let alone negligence by previous owners.
Sure there won’t be any spider like that in your car 😅
@@VAGTechnic I try to keep it as clean as possible but had some headaches with the vacuum pump and PS pump (plus 2 cans of brake cleaner on my hair while I tried to clean up some mess:'D) hopefully mine won't be too bad (tell me it won't bankrupt me lol) can't wait to see it (did spot it in the background 🤩 )
Excellent video 👍👍👍👍👍
Great video 👍
Daaammmnnnn!!!!Thanks to you I'll stick to the supercharged V-6s ;)
Great video thanks for sharing 👍
good final word
B7 RS4 is a beauty.
On mine with 108k miles, replacing the front cv shafts, the upper suspension links were extremely hard to get off because of age, wear and tear, etc. The a/c went out at around 100k miles, and to replace it you have to remove the entire front end and try for hours to break the shaft loose from the compressor without turning the shaft. Absolute dream to drive, requires a decent amount of maintenance even if you get lucky with timing chains. With that said fixing things is pretty straight forward and only takes about a day for the bigger projects like the a/c and valley pan oil gasket.
BS. You can't change an A/C compressor out in a day unless you've done it many times before. Same with replacing the radiator or even just replacing the serpentine belt.
Awesome video thank you!
top notch info from you
About to buy a s4 hopefully alls mostly good with it
Nice video. I have a B5 and am in the market to add a B7
bro you re a legend for all of this. you and carwizard (that fat dude with glasses) you two and scotty kilmer are some of the most solid car dudes out here on youtube.
Jesus.... poor car. Really thankfull for all the info you guys are sharing, the 2.4 v6 engines can have these problems as well? I'm referring mostly to the timing and engine issues, leaks and suspension parts are to be expected on aging cars
Miss my B7 S4 sometimes, but then I remember how bad it leaked steering fluid and oil and any time I took it to the shop it was >$1k for anything. And also getting 12 mpg in the city with gas prices where they are now was no fun. My experience with the B7 was like having a super hot but very toxic girlfriend. Sex is great, but all other times you hate her. They’re so much fun to drive and sound so good but it was a stressful experience turning the car on every day, who knows if it started making a new sound that would cost me a couple grand.
🤣🤣🤣
Unless you're loaded, you really need to be able to fix these cars yourself or they will bankrupt you.
So glad I sold mine
Great advice
Just spent £1000 on front suspension parts on mine. Definitely not cheap cars to run!
One other thing to look out for is the tailgate on the Avant. The struts can be pulled from the bodywork or be bending the bodywork before they fail. Your glovebox will be broken…or already broken and repaired. Love the V8 burble though, and a magnitude easier to buy and live with compared to an RS4 of the same vintage.
Great cars 👍
Enjoy your videos, thanks for great talks as well.
I have a rs4 b8, 114,000 km. Everything looks fine, car drives great. See lots of the dsg gearboxes has got trouble in the VW and Porsche applications, and Audi ?
When do I need to think about timings chain replacement etc?
I stay in South Africa
Great video, but take a look at the wheel arches of a 20 year old Mondeo or Vectra and these B6/B7 models have taken the road salt quite well.
2.4 are cool , just keep up to date all service intervals it will run 4ever
Looks great (I’ve sub’d too). B7 RS4 Imola yellow owner.
Cracking video
Got my A8 D3 for 3,000. Flatbed straight to mechanic. 2,000 to get it running. Drive to next mechanic to fix rear brake caliper and intake manifold gaskets - 2,000. 7k in, has 185,000 miles. I love to drive it, just hope that it does not fail around the next turn.
had all of those fixed on my S4 and sold it immediately, Thats the biggest maintenance bill I ever had for a vehicle, i really miss that B7,
I loved my B7.. such a pretty car but I didn't like how it drove. Steering Felt much more electronically numbed down. I now daily a B5 S4 (stg 3) and a noggy B6 S4. I swear the B5 is one of the best feeling audi chassis for drive feel. The b6 s4 is alright. Still feels pretty numb compared to my B5
As the old saying goes.. "It's not the buying a car like this that's the issue, it's the running and maintaining of them that's the problem".. My B7 RS4 is on 136000 miles now, got it 9 years ago with 89000 on it, in my ownership i've changed the oil and filter approx every 3000 miles... as far as i know still on original clutch and timing chains.. no noise or issues with either.. so far. Apart from wear and tear items the most expensive part to replace was the oil cooler and lines. Brakes, suspension, suspension arms have all been done by myself, but i wouldn't even have a go at the timing chains on one of these... I take my hat off to you sir.
There's no need to change oil every 3,000 miles with synthetic oil. Audi recommends 10,000 and I've been doing that in my S4 for the past 150,000 miles without issue. I've never even had to touch the original chains/guided/tensioners.
Thank you for the EXCELLENT VIDEO! Having had THREE B6 S4s (still have one), this video pretty much sums up my experience in a nutshell. The money I spent on these out-of-warranty cars was horrendou$$$$$: one engine swap, too many suspension parts to count, oil leaks, steering pumps, etc etc. (The first two had some chain noise but I didn't even get to that.) And to fix the last B6 S4 I still have--an '05 Avant from the northern US--will require an engine pull to replace the cracked performance headers. Why are they cracked? Because the car was too low. But why bother doing any of that when the car has visible rust. I'm sad because I can't drive it and it's a mechanic's special now :(
I have a b6 and both sides of my valve covers went dumping oil fast and everywhere. It happens a lot so get those valve covers changed religiously!
Very knowledgeable
Awesome 👌
One little thing to add to the b6 buyers guide. The headlight back caps are incredibly fragile and can crack apart just from sitting. This lets water into the headlight causing electrical faults. New ones for the passenger are nla as far as I can find. Luckily some genius has designed a 3D printable version. Once I get my printer set up mine will be getting a set
I actually needed to hear this. Thanks for the heads up! I've been dealing with that on mine
Just like any other car you have to
Maintenance it on a regular stay on top of it Audi has a site with the what you need check on your s4 every certain amount of
Miles
Million pounds later :D Oh my god i can just imagine the repari bill for that black avant S4. Nice video again btw!
Could you do one on a q7 3.0tdi out of all the videos I’ve seen you really know your stuff and can be trusted so who better to do one
The 4.2 is a good motor, but the cooling parts and small mechanics go wrong and break often, very expensive upkeep. Owned one and spent thousands
Great video thank you. I want to ask about suspension kit, is Lemforder the best? There are other brands available for half the price is it worth it? Or what would you recommend?
That moment the VAG group implemented those foamy supports inside the front fender/wing wells, they made a huge mistake. Collects all the moisture and dirt and thats why they all rust on the top part of the fenders.
partly yes ... but no one is taking the mudguard off and cleaning them after winter .. result is rusty lip from left to right
Almost everything he said about the engine gasket and arms happened to my old s4 B7. Except for rattle.
I picked up a B6 A4 v6 convertible for 450 bucks and am in the process of doing the work on her .. engine and suspension are done, exhaust and transmission range sensor and fuel filters are next up. Get them cheap and do your own work.
here in the states a good condition 4.2 s4 than NEEDS the timing chains go for around 4,5,6k+. The ones that are in good condition and have the chains done are around 9,10,11,12+. I'd like to get one eventually before they are all rotted.
Wow! This makes my b5 S4 look reliable 🤣🤣🤣. Im happy i saw this video. Ill know to stay clear of it. I was thinking this was more reliable then the B5 s4. But i see now its even worse. I always liked the idea of having a awd manual V8. But Audis V8 is not reliable and is very thirsty. Though i heard the b7 rs4 v8 is better? Id love to LS, coyote, or sbf swap one.
Your way better off getting a 2.0 turbo, putting rods and pistons and big turbo. You will make more power, cheaper to maintain, and better mpg.
Im just finding your channel. Do you do any b5 s4 work? I do all the work on my b5 s4. Just did the rack and pinion for the 3rd time, lol. Im sure the b6 and b7 have the rack issue to, and maybe even the window regulator issues too.
Kralju!! Dali imaš preporuku gde mogu naći service book za 2003 allroad 2.7t? Ovde u USA nigde ne mogu naci. Keep up the good work, love the chanel!
Very accurate
I was thinking about getting An S4 convertible but after seeing this I think I am alright with out.
Yesterday i went to test drive a 2006 Audi S4 cabriolet. 6 speed manual. The car was fun, and that engine sounds amazing even with stock exhaust, but I didn't like how dry and stiff the leather was on the seats, the clutch was softer than I expected for a 340hp car, shifting into first and second gear felt SUPER stiff, while shifting 3rd gear felt way too soft. When I first went from 2nd to 3rd i pushed the shifter HARD into third because I thought I missed the shift when in reality the gear selector slot for 3rd was just WAY too soft.
The other thing I didn't like about it was how I'm 5'7" and the driver seat was snug even for me. My first car, a 1991 Mazda RX7 convertible, felt roomier inside than this Audi. It's too heavy for how small the car actually is.
on my car it can diagnose by it self condition of chain, i could replace it but mechanic told it is ok, as new, because i replace oil more often, every 5-7000km
This is certainly a film which proves the point 'buy on condition'.
I bought passat 3.2 for 3.5k Euro. Redid the whole car with many things that were not due. I also upgraded it almost entirely as R36 and the car swallowed more than 10k euro.
The 4.2 is amazing, it's one of the last v8 awd audis you can own unless you have supercar money for an rs7 and the 4.0tt.
Mostly it's the powersteering hoses to the powersteering cooler or miscellaneous coolant hoses cracking and failing.
The timing chain job sucks, unless you have a solid weekend to do it yourself with 2k of parts or 6-8k at a garage, or find a car with it already done.
With catless downpipes and a fast intentions non-resonated exhaust, it's exotic sounding, like the old 4.2 audi r8s. Now add a ported intake manifold and a jackal motorsports stg 2 tune and you're at almost 400 to all 4 wheels.
I love mine, but it's like dating a super model or a stripper, the sex is amazing but she's toxic and expensive, everyone wants her but only you know about the problems you have to deal with.
Self lubricating chassis is a feature of Audi's