Audi with Lambo prices! '07 Audi S6 has the same V10 as Lamborghini! Why so expensive to repair???
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- The CAR WIZARD 🧙♂️ shows common issues with the Audi V10 and why they cost so much to repair on this 2007 A6.
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I said wrong Lambo in the video. Meant to say Huracan. Not Aventador.
I was like Adventador? Thats a v12
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_V10
oh man! refilm the whole thing...
Arent the audis turbo though, the rs6 of this gen was twin turboed
@@chappy2121 I believe so
The problem with $80,000 cars when they're worth $8,000 is they're still $80,000 cars when they need to be fixed.
Well said
Tell that Tyler hoover
He said the injectors were $100 each. Rockauto has some for $46USD. They have coils for $10 not $100. I would have saved the customer like $1400 in parts.
@@chadjackson4786 x2 Shop markup standard.
@@JesusSaves86AB if he let the guy provide the intake gasket and spark plugs he'd let him supply the injectors and coils. I only work with mechanics that let me bring my own parts.
German vehicle shop manual: Basic Maintenance - Step 1 - Remove engine
I lold on that. Thanks
A lot of the cars that are cradle designs can be simple to work on, I have heard some Ferrari and McLaren master techs say its like 4 bolts, you drop the engine and subframe down as an assembly, do your work in 15 minutes, put it back up and bolt it back in.
That how corp do it. More work hours in shop. And project of defect
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Audi is Italian.
I still want one!
You should get one for the channel
Thank you!! I agree
Me too
Is it bad that I want one even more now that the maintenance isn't as bad ad I thought it would be lol. It's no e60 m5.
Buy mine 69 k miles super clean the cleanest i seen its phantom black i might sell it . I paid 15 k one owner it came from mj fox i kept the title because that was cool to me . A picture of it anyways the dmv took it 😑
So what you're telling us is that the best plan for an S6 or an S8 with this engine is to buy a second complete engine, and then every 40k miles or so, drop the engine in the car, and swap it out with the one on the bench that has already been serviced, and then service that pulled engine at your leisure over the next 40k miles, and then swap again.
I mean... race cars do it every race. A daily almost race car, this might be a good idea 😆
Don’t let the FBI. Catch you 😈
it's one of those cars where they tell you "have fun, see you soon" when leaving the shop.
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The inaccessible O2 sensors requiring an engine-out service are the reason I sold my 2003 Audi RS6... and didn't think about getting a V10 S6 to replace it with. To steal Leno's phrase, when they work, they're unbelievable... when they're broken, they're unbelievable....not much middle ground with these Audis.
Intellectual Wino any tech who works on these on the regular could easily change those sensors with engine in . Find new shop !
Unfortunately, that's not true because of the location of the sensors compared to other cars. There are only 2 on each side that are accessible with the motor in.
Their WW2 tanks were the same! Not much dealer support in the Russian steppes!
@@garymills6702 tell me about it, Gary! Although the guys in Stuttgart learned the lessons of the Tiger and Panzer ans actually built cars designed to be serviced. AMGs are the way to go for low long term ownership expenses, particularly the cars with the M113 and 722.6 engine/transmission combinations... I think of my W211 E55 AMG as a Bf-109F... Not the fastest, nor most improved version of the breed, but the most balanced and easiest to service in the field...
@Stimpy&Ren Incorrect the W202 C43 AMG had a m113 4.3 engine. Also the C55 AMG.
damn a v10! cars used to be cool. now we are plagued by hybrids, CVTs, and small turbo engines
BMW is still insisting on Inline-6s, which is very cool of them... not sure I'd still ever buy a BMW. Small Turbo engines are honestly the way to go though for the future... This Audi S6 is the prime example. A V10 is gnarly and cool, but it's a lot of reciprocating mass, they put 2 ECUs on it which made the electronics expensive and complicated, and there's all sorts of complex fuel delivery and oil filtration equipment that made the car very non-competitive and expensive to produce. Not to mention more cylinders is always harder to package tightly for weight and profiling, let alone in a sedan.
V6 Turbos are kind of that prime meta right now. Just enough displacement to harness plenty of power, efficient in low RPMs for fuel economy and engine temp, but with turbos the same engine can manage 400HP. V6s can also be tightly packaged, and they can make a bunch of the same V6 for non-turbo economy cars, with transverse FWD mounting.
If you want one of these V10 monsters, save up and buy a working one right now. Garage it and drive it on rare occasion, so you can enjoy it on your own whim. In a decade, they will all be gone- electric cars and mild-hybrids with 3, 4 and 6 cyl motors will be all the rage. The only V10 cars will be super-exotics like the Huracan and LFA. I guarantee the Viper will be killed off soon. It's sad, but automakers have to think about money and what sells to stay competitive.
when driving: "Damn a v10!" when paying to repair: "Damn... a v10..."
turbo engines are just full of friction and stresses. just wait till the maintenance begins on those cars. squeezing out power on weak engines bad combo
@@carlosqlv it is true, but when you do have to fix it... even if it's replacing the whole engine, it's a heck of a lot cheaper if that same engine is made for hundreds of thousands of economy cars. Replacing a V10 in this car basically requires dropping $15k on a new crate motor and praying to the Audi gods that one is lying a warehouse near you so the shipping isn't too bad- or cannibalizing another S6 or S8 for it's engine.
Bigger engines will always be more expensive to care for. More plugs, coil packs, bigger and more complex intakes, exhaust headers, sensors, etc. Yes, you do harness more horsepower more reliably, especially with something like GM's LS motor. But... V6s are still cheaper, can be just as fun when done up right, can go in just about any type of car, and can be easily and cheaply turbocharged for extra go- at no cost to your MPG because low RPM doesn't spool the turbo. It's the happy medium for everyone. Just like with anything in life- going out of line and not conforming... is expensive.
Urgh why do cvts even exist
When I did my V12 Mercedes it was 24 god damn plugs lol 😂
but once you go over the cost of 24 sparkplugs....what a car to drive.
@@Veikra Oh totally - amazing engine.
My '98 E55 was 16! And they hadn't been changed for ages. terrifying stuff
Same on my E550 😂 why tf does there really gotta be 2 plugs per cylinder
I own a W203 C320 and it's also twin spark. The guy at auto zone thought it had a V12 when i was buying spark plugs. . One of the most refined cars i've ever driven which is astonishing for an entry level model, and I've driven a lot of more expensive, newer cars from Bentley, Lexus, BMW, newer Mercedes and its comparable to those despite being almost 20 years old.
When a shop-owning mechanic can't stand constant costs of the Audi, you know it's not for you.
I have a 334000 miles 4.2 audi . that`s 539000 km. (possibly the highest mileage a8l) No blown engine, not even a transmission or diff. They cost a lot, but last if you change the fluid. To put it in perspective, my audi S8 has roughly the same maintenance cost than my duramax
@@Veikra No timing chain/guide issues?, you are a lucky man! And dirtymax, ya...ok
I know a big company in the UK were a manager had one as his company car and after 3 trips to the Audi dealer for repairs he banned them being on the company car list even though the repair was under warranty, they always gave the repair sheet with the costs of each repair on it even though the total was zero.
Yeah. I won't own one either. I made lots of money repairing them though!! Since then, I've retired to the idyllic, zen-like peace of working on classic Cadillacs w/non-electronic carbureted 331's, 390's, 425's, 429's, 472's, 500's.... yeah that kind of stuff. I even have a factory "fuel injected" (🙂🙃🙂) diesel Olds 350 in a personally owned Eldorado Biarritz. It speaks calm to my soul.
My neighbor - guy, who has a doctorate degree in automotive engineering, worked for VAG, now runs his own workshop specialized in VAG products - guess what car he uses as his daily?
Corolla E110
Of course, it's not his only car. Still, none of them is a VAG vehicle.
I've done work on these before and it's not terrible. Most weekend mechanics could tackle the work. Pricing seems pretty outrageous, as with most exotic shops. Actual OE Denso coil, $208.90 for 10 on Rock Auto, not $1000. OE Reman Injectors, $438.90 for 10 not $1000. Valve cover gasket $46.30, actual OE spark plugs $95.50 for 10. So $789.60 in parts for all that work, naturally the shop will have markup but your looking at close to $3000 labor then for work that books out at 11.9 hours. Spark plugs 2.2, valve cover gaskets 3.0, intake manifold and all fuel injectors 6.7. Most shops will overlap at least 2 hours because most of the stuff that needs to come off for the fuel injectors, also helps provide access to the spark plugs and valve covers. Most of these cars, like the one that I worked on, were destined to be scrapped likely because of outrageous estimates to fix them when the work isn't anymore special than any other vehicle if you know what you are doing and stay away from exotic/specialty european shops who charge a premium for a car that really isn't anymore special than any other car.
Yes his parts prices are absurd. He was about to make $800 profit just from the coils. Then he quoted $1k for carbon clean labor which means he charges like $300-$500 per hour.
I hate dishonest shops. They really ruin it for all of the honest shops.
He even swapped brand new spark plugs out instead of looking at the valves when he had previous experience with carbon buildup on these engines. Really slimy.
"This is a car you have to pay to play" 👏🏿🗣️ Say it louder for the people in the back.
i love that quote. funkn gruesome
Wizard: these cars are endless money pits.
Next week.
Hoovie: i bought the cheapest s6 in the US
Tell Hoovie I'll hook him up
Medessec tell me, you’ll hook me up.
Hoovie is way beyond Audipit, Wizard has half the shop full of income
oh, wait, he takes them to the other guy, Wizard said fu to the audi's
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"The way engineers design engines shows they don't have to work on them"
An old mechanic said that to me in the 70's.
Aaron Lopez Was it a man that goes by the name Scotty 😏
@@_IMNNO Scotty mcscottyface
So true. It's one thing to build an engine on a bench in a factory with all new parts and specialised machinery at your disposal and something else entirely to dismantle and repair them in a typical workshop.
One thing I'll say about Audis: They are made to be serviced. No breakable clips holding things together. Extensively detailed manuals with special tools. Compared to all of the domestics I've owned, my two A6s were a dream to work on. You do need to love these cars to own them, though. They're not Crown Vics. 😂
Yea engines were also different back then, for starters everything was carbureted and Pretty slow. Not as efficient the list goes on. There also wasn’t much of a replacement for displacement. More power? More bigger! Which is not always the best answer.
Hey Wizard! I''d like to say that I really enjoy watching your channel, makes me feel like I'm on a couple years ago youtube era. Videos filled with content, not click baity titles and just people saying random stuff to fill up time and try to make some money and also no need for polemic stories. Congratulations for being down to earth and keep it up!
Great video! I bought one this year- pouring oil. Have torn it apart and got it running. This video is SPOT ON with the difficulty and diagnostics. I could talk about (and listen to)this car all day.
My boss had one of these back in 2009. He let me drive it around midtown Manhattan because he had to run in to a meeting and couldn’t find a parking spot. I took it on a short joyride around NYC and fell in love with it! Immediate power, tremendous grip (even on roads that were a bit slick due to light rain) and of course that exhaust note. It was by far the nicest car I had ever driven and still remember having a smile ear to ear the whole time! Glad I never bought one though. Great video Car Wizard!
Greek ?
m3rk201 yup. You?
@@nickkatsoulakis6103 hell yeah
Nick Katsoulakis “Joyride” in mid town Manhattan? What? Yeah, I love those curvy, empty winding roads in mid town Manhattan. You can really open a car up and explore it’s limits in mid town Manhattan. What?
Turkish:))
This video is SERIOUSLY making me consider buying a 1994 Toyota Celica!!
@@NSDflug I can't think of one that has been better maintained, but I'm sure Scotty isn't selling. I think he'll be buried in that car.
Corolla or Carine-E is fine too 👍
just got one haha
Good call.
I got an old Nissan. Far better ownership experience than the BMW I had.
I have one you can have it for $50,000. You can thank Scotty for that price
I LOVE how crearly and gramatically correctly the Car Wizard speaks, so that non native English speakers can fully enjoy his videos 👏👏👏😉😉😉
Lol @ 'grammatically correctly'
I run a v12 merc and I undestand these costs. I do all my own work though wherever possible but that doesn't stop the parts being expensive though. Thanks for the video Wizard
but since you pay only the part vs someone who gets their car serviced, you end up with a v12 with ownership cost of boring cookie-cutter car. I have audi s8 , a duramax , isuzu impulse and a audi a8l. Im not bias to a brand and only buy reliable cars, work on them myself. The cost of parts for the S8 is relative, the duramax is just as expensive and it's a gm product.
Agreed. I work on my 07 s8 v10 myself and it's not too expensive parts wise. Most of the cost would be paying a shop labor rate to have these services done in the video.
Mercury never made a V12
All I will say is “what do you expect then you cram a V10 into an engine bay that was only meant to at best contain a V8 more likely a V6.”
James Bambury because that was the German sedan flex back then, e60 m5 v10, e63 6.2L v8, Audi V10
@@zhaoyangxie audi A8L 6.0 W12 that one was ridicilous.
The sad part is that the A6 with the 3.2 and 4.2 aren't slouches either. They perform nearly as good as the S6 and get better fuel economy.
But DUDE, it's a V10
@@Medessec 3.2 A6 no slouch but nowhere near the performance of the 4.2 or v10. My buddy just got an 07 A6 3.2 to replace his BMW 528i that caught on fire, and I'm like "WHY TF WOULD YOU NOT PAY 1,000 MORE AND GET THE V8?!" His car will get stomped by my mercedes e550
the real problem is that its a 90 degree v10 so its way wider than normal. Just a 4.2 v8 with 2 added cylinders and a split pin crankshaft for even firing
Oh man please open the lambo gearbox I'd love to see the carnage inside
Watch Hoovie's recent video on it. He shows first gear in all its grisly glory.
Mortonbmx ain’t this the Audi video?
It's fun when it's someone else's engine. I had a lot of noise in my engine and the feeling when you see glitter and teeth coming out is not good.
Great video Wizard. Very informative. I literally got the same rundown from my mechanic today. My 2007 S6 is going through exact same issues. I'm having the work done which is the full carbon cleaning and changing all 10 injectors. I hope it drives much smoother and stronger after the fix. Total bill is $3500. I already fixed the oil leaks in the valley. You are is right, the drive is amazing in this car and exhaust (magnaflow) sound is music to anyone's ears. I'm thinking I'll fix but won't drive it daily.
😭😭😭🤮 totally killed my dreams of ever owning a car like this... I have children to raise. "Dadda, I need shoes... My toes are bleeding". "Shut up! I told you I bought more Band-Aids... Double Up! Dadda's car needs to be fixed!
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@@chrismarek7864 Thanks Chris for your emoji reply. I forgot I wrote this 7 months back. I needed to smile today and your reply facilitated that!
LOL @10:58 "They fail...without fail" nice one Wizard.
There's a method of blasting these intake manifolds with ground nutshell granules, it's been invented by a Californian company (of course ;)) and some German shops totally swear by it. The advantage is that these nutshell grains are strong enough to clean out all the dirt and grime (while a few leftover granules as residue just burn off in the engine), but also not too intense like sand blasting would be, but it works like sand blasting. Look into that, with the increase of direct injected engines over the last years, this might actually be a really helpful tool as an addition to your shop!
Its called walnut blasting, it is a popular method in Europe. These 2000s direct injection petrol engines all have this problem, especially those used in a city. There are a couple of videos here on youtube where you can see the full procedure and the results too.
great for blast cabinets too, makes old motorcycle parts look great
Still have to take it soarer to do it. That’s all labor costs.
Very common procedure on some BMW engines. Didn't know other makes could use walnut blasting too, but makes sense.
@Daver G Oh, I didn't know that it was that old - maybe they only recently started exporting it to Europe?
I've owned a few VAG cars. The severity of such situations happens once every 60K mi. Users must understand that proper maintenance and premium fuel are required. Avoid the stealership for out of warranty repairs and find an independent who understands such cars and has the tools. The prices of parts you mention are higher than mkt prices, so obviously should include the labor charges. When u r in for spark plugs & coils replacement and the workshop wants to charge labor for coils on top of plugs then it means they crooks.
What's a Vag car? Like a Volvo/a?
I love the look he gives whoever runs the impact at 9:38. QUIET ON THE SET! Great video Wizard!
Direct injection seems to have caused more problems than it solved.
saving the planet, one disposal car at the time. A few nox less for bigger landfill and energy cost to produce more cars. Keep the runaway train rolling yeeehaww
It's awful. I own a Honda with a DI engine, and man I wish I knew about DI issues before I got it. It's 4 years old and only has about 30K miles on it and I've already noticed a slight difference in the engine tone, which I'm almost sure is due to increasing carbon build up on the intake valves, despite the fact that I hoon it at least a couple times a month to try to keep build up low.
I'll never buy a DI car again... they are ticking time bombs waiting to explode your wallet. At the absolute very least, I'd go for a car that has both port and direct injection, like what Toyota is doing with their current DI engines for example. The port injectors are there to spray the intake and keep it clean.
If you lightly supercharge these engines with 5-6lbs you could add a water/meth kit like VF-engineering does. Those valves will stay clean as whistles after that.
@@damieg82 you dont have a choice, they are ALL DI now. That's what the epa wants. So we have to put even more complexity with port injection injectors on top of DI just to keep them clean. I decided to bite the bullet and just get the intake out and clean it every few years
@@4jrgolf Sure but the only audi v10 supercharger kit cost 40 000$ . And it's for a R8 so probably another 10 000$ to fit it in a S8
Kinda want a V10 even after all these warnings.
then get yourself a 5 cylinder car, totally works by the 80/20 rule.
@@zloychechen5150 saw a video of an audi coupe/80 hatch with an exhaust it sounded kinda like a mini v10
M5 if you like real risks.
@@trenttrevorrow5648 its not even a risk it will definitely fail
kaan kuruüzümcü I think it’s overblown a bit by the internet, but a lot of it is due to owners neglecting the car and maintenance.
I loved this format of the video of what could be wrong and having us guess on the next step, really appreciate the effort you put into this one!
I love discussions like this. It's like watching educational TV about stuff I actually care about. Thanks Wiz.
Im really loving these *present problem; guess answer; get told answer* Videos. Plus practical and usable facts about actual components of the car and engine. Your videos are some of the best around Wizard! Cheers!
Car Wizard! Can you do a buy-this-not-that episode on performance sedans? Can you compare, say, the S8, Jag XJ, Panamera, and similar? Thanks! We really enjoy your channel. Thanks for making great content.
Instead of any audi s6 i would recommend the b7 rs4. It uses the older r8 engine. And with a manual !!! So none of the shitty transmission problems
@@HRM.H Those have issues with the timing chain I believe. Which is on the back of the block up against the firewall, so engine out service for that car as well. Google a picture of "audi V8 timing chain", its the most rube goldbering looking pos I've ever seen.
@@AaronSmith-kr5yf @Thomas I've been looking for a S4 or RS4 of that gen. JHM Motorsports offers strengthened chains for that engine, which fixes the problem. I believe they also warranty it if you have them install the part. I absolutely want an S4 with the V8 as a driver/project car, the S6 is pretty much a relic- meant to be appreciated sparsely.
I'd love to see Car Wizard expand his Buy-This-Not-That series, into several different categories. He's getting better at them... although I would love to see them done in a more enticing video style.
Aaron Smith v8 s4 had chain issues, rs4 chain setup is much improved design.
I've been working on cars for 20 years, without a degree, and I have to say I agree with most everything you say on all these videos, and learn alot from others.
Thank you!
Thank you, Car Wizard and Mrs Car Wizard. I love your videos, both of you do fantastic work on them.
I wish we have some honest car mechanics like wizard in nyc. Car wizard it's my favorite channel on yt now. So down to earth. Hope more people will appreciate this channel
Buy a pre-owned SAAB 9-5 Aero and go to Rowland at Swedish Saab Service in Brooklyn. He only works on SAAB's, and knows them backwards and forwards. He's as honest as the day is long. My 2008 9-5 has cost me $2,700 since new in parts, labor, preventative maintenance, brakes, exhaust, O² sensors, DIC (Direct Ignition Cassette), MAF Sensor, and fluid changes. I own a SAAB because I found an honest mechanic in NYC.
Just went through this whole thing with my B8 v8 4.2 S5, i did everything, best bet to hit reset. Fuel injectors, valve cover gaskets, spark plugs, fuel pumps and full carbon clean. I even replaced the upper and lower intake manifolds with lower mileage ones also. The car now runs and sounds like a dream. Both the V8 s5 and v10 s6 are beautiful motors but are very sensitive to issues. I indeed spent thousands and i had 2 less cylinders. There’s a reason it’s expensive, in my opinion worth the experience. How can you get such a symphony such as we just heard without paying for it. Awesome video wizard as usual! more audi videos!
I love the sound of the exhaust the tone and note of both cars. Be well take care Wizard keep the videos coming cars cheer us up👍🧙♂️
You have no idea how much I appreciate this video man. I have a 2010 A6 4.2L V8 and am having similar issues with the misfiring.
So that’s why I see these Audi’s driving around with no front bumpers lol 😆
Lol bro it’s because either they have a big ass intercooler or the more likely reason it was damaged and they didn’t buy a new one bc they are so damn expensive. For my 2001 B5 Audi S4 the bumper costs around $800, all you need to know is my car looks ratchet af.
Bearie roblox you don’t have a b5.
@@davidtma3449 what does he have then?
Car Wizard: "Knowing what we do, what would you do with this car?"
Me: "See if Hoovie wants to buy it!"
SEE if he wants to buy it? more like just tell him your offer price and tell him you've got some more content for his channel xD
Great episode !!! I like the new twist. Please keep up the good work and greetings from Lawrence, KS.
love the honesty car wizard! be safe put there man.
This why Toyota went with dual port/direct fuel injection.
Never compare Toyota reliability with the Germans, their hybrid prius from the 90's still driving today!!
Audi is doing this now too, at least on my 2016.
Well I had direct injected ford ecoboost with almost 200k miles and valves were just little bit dirty nothing serious. I guess intake and PCV design play big role there.
13:47 The Audi V10 has 8 oxygen sensor split upon 4 banks pairing 3 and 2 cylinders together, then for each bank there's one sensor before the catalytic converter and after it. The official repair manual says to pull the engine. It is possible to lower the engine and the transmission to get in there but then you would have to drop subframe, secure the engine with various mounts, take out the engine mounts and it really doesn't give you enough space to put some force on old rusty oxygen sensors. And then you would have to align the car after you're done. So it is wise to just take the engine out, both ways it's just hours and hours of labor.
I did a starter motor and 4 oxygen sensors on of these without removing the engine. Don't do it. It's a nightmare.
Excuse me 8 O2 sensors? And I thought replacing 2 was bad...
Audis are a pain. Taken mine to 5 mechanics. All of them see different things… Sputtering, hesitating, white smoke out of exhaust did Pcv valves, spark plugs, 900 miles good. Oil changed not sure if it’s overfilled but car is shaking again. Bad Hpfp? Clogged Catalytic, coils, injector? Please help
Always appreciate your channel and insight, man. My Audi runs like a top, but I still do the wince every time I start it. I've been hurt before.
Love these videos. Just like Hoovie - stops me from making stupid mistakes. My wife and family appreciate it 😊
I had an A6 4.2 and it had the same carbon issue when I first bought it. They are great cars to drive and I would own them over and over again but the issues really kill you sometimes.
I've heard the 4.2 fsi is a bullet proof engine
@@theboogeyman5736 same here I’ve heard that
Love the interactive diagnosis part car wizard!
Again pure and really good explaining!
I strongly encourage my friends and family to subscribe to the Car wizard, ur a the perfect teacher, honest, detailed and you speak from experience,,, ur the man car wizard,,
My Audi A8 3.7L V8 was the same: a moneypit. One problem after the other and it went on and on...😩 thousands od euro’s down the drain...
Hahahahahahahaha
In highschool i bought a 135k mi S4. 4.2 V8.
HAHAHAHAHAGAGAGAGGJDJFKFKFKKK 🙉🔫
Been there, done that,
Twice
There is an old cliche re Ferrari ownership which applies here: “If you can’t afford a new Ferrari, you can’t afford to run a second hand one.”
Like most cliches, it's a load of bollocks.
@@ChocolateFrog it ain't, unless the car is less than 7 years old. If it's less than 7, it costs just the taxes, fuel and insurance
@@Anankin12 So because I can't afford a £300k 812 I can't run a £60k 456? Yeah whatever.
@@ChocolateFrog well if you can afford 20k in maintenance a year, you sure can afford one.
Insurance, fuel, taxes and repairs
@@Anankin12 That's absolute rubbish. Who told you it was 20k a year in maintenance 😂. Bearing in mind most only do a few hundred miles or at most a few thousand, servicing is a few hundred and maybe a couple of grand for a bigger ticket item.
Thank you for the awesome videos Wizard (the Bob Ross of car repair).
I saw this model pretty often,when it was released.Always been impressed with that V10 badge...but yes,it has its heft when it comes to maintain.Especially when miles or km gets higher.
Excellent Video! Especially explaining the common issues of the V10 engines. By the way, the same applies to other Audi (2007-2011) direct injection engines like the 1.8TFSI and 2.0TFSI although less expensive to maintain. I ended up buying a 3.0 V6 TFSI with compressor as an alternative since it's still pretty fast but easier and less expensive to maintain. Moreover it's easy to tune to 435Hp and realise more or less the same impressive performance figures as the V10 but of course it will never have that ultimate sound of the V10. All AUDI engines from 2007 - 2011 basically have two major issues: (1) too small holes in the piston rings causing oil consumption at an unacceptable level and (2) carbon build up. Both issues are causing various logical symptoms, hence the huge maintenance costs. Really too bad since other than that these S6 and RS6 and A6 4F in general are very fine cars.
Btw, I'd be very interested in a similar video of the Jaguar XJ 5.0 V8 or the V6. How expensive would it be to maintain that car? What are its common issues?
The A6 is a nightmare. Audi dealerships don’t even know how to work on them
But plenty of independant mecanics know them.
Veikra independent* mechanics*
Car wizard you are a true born mechanic the way you work the reality you display about cars your a rare breed great content keep up the good work stay safe from the uk
loved the video! I really enjoyed hearing your thought process, subbed!
I love my S8. I was smart and bought mine with all those repairs done. Intake,carbon clean, valve covers, spark plugs etc. S8s have a little more room than good. I love to seeing these Audi and Lamborghini videos.
I always heard Audi's were expensive to fix, but holy f
All Audi’s are expensive do not buy unless you have $$$$$$
Awesome video, Wizard, and great explanations.
Thank you Dave!!
Stay safe.
Nothing like a Pcv and direct injection to do this. No fuel to wash down the crap through the intakes. This happens in my v6 Mercedes diesel too.
I'm glad my Corolla has port and direct injection.
You can go to places like Valvoline to clean out your intake valve heads for cheap like $60 it only take like 15 minutes also you feel as if your cars power has been restored.
Loved it, I have a Audi A8 D3 W12 6.0. When it works it’s fantastic but when it breaks it’s multiples of thousands. I wouldn’t part with it all the same. Your right the sounds from the V10 are just amazing and I hope you do a W12 at some stage for comparison.
Stay safe and enjoying yourself and Tyler from Ireland
He did a oil change video on a 2011 Bentley Continental GT Superspors last week.😍😍
@@6lemans10 Very different engine sadly.
In the UK, 3 years ago, the cheapest S8 V10 was £12k - less than half that now. All the ones for sale had also done 100 k miles - all starting to add up now! Thanks for the video. I’ve got an S8 D2 - and people complain about a new transmission is usually required at some point during ownership, although that is only slightly more than the work you describe
Great video! Been a fan for a while now.
I LOVED my audi RS6 C6 back in PL thank god there was an abundance of AMAZING cheap mechanics that i could run it relatively cheap. AMAZING fun
This video makes me really miss my '08 S6, The engine in that car was one of the most awesome-sounding engines to be put in any car much less a sedan. Alas, I too had the same issues and had to spend a small fortune to keep it running. One of my favorite cars of all time to drive. Full torque at very low revs, it pulled like a freight train and was an awesome sleeper. I've had nicer and faster Audi's but for sheer fun to drive this is the epitome of a German Performance Sedan.
This is why cars (often found in older or less sophisticated cars) with easy maintenance and repairs should be part of your checklist of purchasing your next car. I keep referring to a 90's to early 2000's Japanese branded cars but most of them are really easy to maintain and service. My R33 Skyline GTS25T has loads of engine space while being very reliable, the only car I've owned out of 6 that hasn't had a major problem!
Wiz, I'm an addict of your channel & would love for you to give
us a video on the 07' - 08' Audi TT (Naturally Aspirated) 3.2 VR6 Quattro,
I learned it was only sold in the US for a single year & in fact was the only
car to have the Magnetic ride suspension along with Ferrari that year. Thank you
so much !!
I heard someone say that back in the 80's, it was the Audi owners that were coked up....
I think their designers still are!
Could be worse.
You could have bought an E60 M5!
nah. the engine is good on the m5 e60. besides it is a far better engine(one of the best ever made). I would say the m5 e60 main problems are the vanos and the pumps on the smg trannny.
And rod bearings
If you take care of that engine it should be fine. Get the oil analysed for rod bearing issues.
E60 M5 is much easier to work on
erttu Easier to work on but the maintenance is more critical and frequent. So the feasible economics of both vehicles are similar.
Wonderful video very in depth keep it up bro
I can confirm exactly everything he's said in this video. I have an A6 3.2 of the same generation. I've had those exact issues (carboned valves, oil in spark plug wells, etc) and even in my engine, which is much smaller, but of similar architecture, any sort of maintenance is a nightmare. Hardly any space, and huge amounts of time must be spent pulling things out. Luckily for me, the timing chain tensioners, which are another major issue of these 3.2, 4.2 and 5.2 engines is doable with the engine in for my model only. On that thing, engine out.
OK I'm convinced, even if I had cubic money I'd never own a high end car. That's just insane.
Ahhh. Drive one and you'll change your mind.
@@frankdesbaux Probably cuz I really miss my 68 Camaro 396/375. So I know how addicting a fast car can be. I'll never have the money to own one so it's a moot point.
@Richi RIch I service my Audis easily enough.
They're just cars and acxtually a joy to work on.
German engineering at its best.
I also have a 23 year old nissan shit box for the dogs.
I hate it.
Scotty: "endless money pit"
Mark Sanne scotty : don’t buy a Audi ha ha ha get a Toyota
A Big thanks to you car wizard another great video will be steering well clear of buying one of them Audi v10 s
Great informative video, very professional. God bless!
I would use a diagnostic tool and start and check the measuring blocks for the timing making sure the adjusters weren't out of phase, and making sure they were within tolerance and check the measuring of the primary O2 sensors since you can miss with a bad one. Since you didn't mention if the misfire was contained to one cylinder I would pull the plugs check the gaps and for fouling and you can usually tell if an injector is dumping too much fuel. If one one cylinder missing move the coil from it around and see if it follows. Assuming the timing and O2s were right. Last thing would be pull the manifold and start digging in there since that is a lot more work and cost to the customer. And I just watched more of the video of the location of the misses. Wow you charge your customers 100 dollars for a coil they are 40 dollars from a dealer 3x.xx from online retailers lol
yeah. 4k to fix. that's expected. Rich man's car, Rich man's maintenance. Shame it also applies to most non 4 cylinder audis though.
Thank you for this informative video! I was really interested in picking up one of these. Not anymore!!!
I've had my '13 S6 for a little over 2 years and only about 10k miles now. So far i've replaced both turbos (yes i had to remove the front bumper), the PCV valve (had to remove the front bumper and turbos), the thermostat (yep...the bumper came off), and half of the air suspension components. Do I regret buying it? NOT AT ALL! Having a car that gets terrifyingly fast in a few seconds yet drives so smoothly and sounds this good is worth it to me. (520+ HP / 650+ Ft-Lbs, APR stage 2 and Milltek exhaust.)
I've always said, that car doesn't look exotic enough to be constantly paying exotic car repair prices.
Agreed, it's like you took a V10 Lamborghini engine and swapped it in your Honda Civic
@@Abdullah..S totally no comparison at all bro. S8 full aluminium space frame + body. First check one out in real live sit in it drive it feel it and smell it and then we talk again. I agree from the outside it looks like a sleeper and that is exactly what some people want who are more interested on what's in the inside then how it looks from the outside.
It's LOADED with VW parts and many parts have BOTH audi and VW symbols on them. It's the caddillac to chevy basically.
@@eco_logic you ever ACTUALLY FIXED ONE? Up close MANY parts have VW symbols on them. VW owns Audi and several others.
@MilkTrafficker did you just compare a bettle with a porsche ? Maybe 50 years they were similar after 80's not so much
Sweet vid. Still waiting for BUY THIS NOT THAT AUDI 😁
We are pretty clued up on repairing them in the UK and Europe as they're more common; but any high end BMW/AUDI/MERC is a known money pit.
Dennis J
It would only be not that
@@user-wk7wv8rn8h You mean a money pit for the unwary? My old RS6 was fine for three years (at about 50,000 km per year) as was my E63 with regular maintenance. Slack off on the servicing and it's likely your own fault, not the car's. Of course they can go wrong with the resulting massive bills, but if you want eye-watering, just wait until your GT-R throws it's toys out of the pram :-D
@@sq1rlsqu4d Deosn't matter how wary you are, requiring an engine drop to replace an O2 sensor? That's just nuts.
@@user-wk7wv8rn8h The lack of space to work in and the need to remove the front end to do most repairs (If I'm not mistaken it is referred to as the 'service position' in Audi repair manuals) is typical for a lot of Audi models, even ones that don't have a massive V8 or V10 engine shoehorned into them.
Which is why, despite the fact that IMHO as a brand Audis are possibly the best looking cars on the road today, I would never own one because I'm afraid of the cost of repairs and/or the time required if I were to do it myself.
Loved this video Wizard. Also Mrs Wizard seems like a great person. Pete UK
Damn so glad I saw this vid.. Whewww saved me from a potiential bad situation. Thx again.
Dealership service manager : I got a s6 job
Master techs in workshop: .....
Gallardo has the V10. Aventador is the V12. Still an awesome car.
Mechanics dont care about car stats haha your right though it sounds just like a gallardo not an aventador.
SitOnAir Sounds more like the Gallardo since it used a modified version of the Gallardo engine.
I understand everything you say!!!!Happy new year
Loved the video - I know almost nothing about car repair, but learned more from your video than spending hours reading about it.
May I ask you what car - new or used - you would recommend for the best balance of repair costs and driving joy?
Always looking forward to wizards new videos.
Yo I saw you in the motorweek retro liveshow chat
@@bvedant Hi... lol. I was watching the Wizard before I go to bed. His voice is soothing lmao...
The updated intake manifold doesn't have the same problem as the old version. But yes, that all adds up. My S6 is having an engine out service right now. Everything resealed. It's pretty reliable overall but he's right. There's a lot to think about with these and any other V10 like the M5 of the same era.
Though the M5 V10 is by far the worst V10 in terms of cost and parts availability. There is no cheap alternatives to fix a S85. While the 5.2FSI in both the S6 and S8 have a more realistic approach to aftermarket OEMS making replacement parts.
2:21 OUTSTANDING ... I do enjoy the request for information, from off camera. Great video thank you.
HOWEVER I always think of the SR71 when thinking about these cars. That plane could get across the Atlantic within two hours, back in the 70s it flew from London England to Los Angeles California in less than four hours. That plane was expensive....but OH YES PLEASE.
Quite possibly one of the best videos I have ever seen. Thank you so much. I was so tempted by a £25,000 RS6 with 49,000 miles on the clock. Maybe I need to think a bit more.
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Almost bought one of these back then when it was almost 1/3 the price of a new one. Glad I didn't. And that is why I have money to drive a brand new Audi now.
I’ve had two A3’s and neither ever gave me any problems. The main thing is to look after them with regular maintenance including oil changes and fix any issues as soon as they arise, otherwise like any car you will eventually have knock on effects affecting other components and the repair costs steadily increase. London, uk
Great video as always