It's been retconned that hyperspace travel isn't at or around the speed of light otherwise it would take thousands of years to go from star system to star system
Mistake: you said "The speed of light is considered a class 1." This contradicts the Wookiepedia, which states "The hyperdrive class acted as a multiplier for a given base travel time." This means that a class 1 would be the basis for all other classes. This does not mean that the speed of light is a class 1. If the millennium falcon were a class 0.5, it would take over 50,000 years for it to traverse the entire galaxy according to your rating system. In the franchise, it takes the millennium falcon only hours or days to make this type of journey. The class system is based on a base speed, not the speed of light.
It could be the speed of light, ships use normal propulsion within hyperspace. Thats why they accelerate into it, with a thrust flare of the engines. The higher the velocity the engines can reach the faster it would travel through hyperspace, thus the shorter journey time as hyperspace is essentially just a "shortcut" where a given velocity moves you much faster than it would in normal space.
When we saw the Starkiller beam, it wasn't just light traveling through the galaxy, the beam was actually disrupting hyperspace itself. Hyperspace, the higher dimension than our own is hundreds of times faster than light in real space. Being a higher dimension, it's very unstable and beyond our comprehension. Ships in the SW universe must travel faster than light in order to enter hyperspace. it's sort of like how the Delorean from "Back to the Future" works.
Oh, so does that mean if it's moving at 2 times the speed of light to enter hyperspace, it is traveling much faster than that via hyperspace itself? Otherwise, the SW galaxy would have to be a tiny galaxy in order for ships to get anywhere within lifespans.
"Lightspeed" in SW is basically slang for hyperspace. In my research, I believe .5 means 25,000 light years per day which is 1,041.66 light years per hour. This would mean .1 past "lightspeed" is 5,000 light years per day. It's measured as a portion of the whole, the whole being 50,000 light years (per day).
No, the video wasn't wrong. I just believe hyperdrives are organized a little differently. Here's my analysis: twitter.com/TABII98_1911/status/803602875695833089
Hyperspace has to be more than just traveling near/at/past light speed. Let's use the relationship between Geonosis and Tatooine as an example because it's one of the few distances given in canon. In Episode II, Padme says Geonosis is "less than a parsec away" from their location on Tatooine. A parsec is roughly 3 light years. This makes sense as the closest star to us outside of our solar system is roughly 4 light years away. So, if the ship Padme and Anakin were traveling on from Tatooine to Geonosis was traveling at the speed of light, it would have taken them at least one year (if not more, as we have as much as a 3 light year distance between the two planets) to travel the distance. The way I understand hyperspace is that not only is the ship traveling near/at/faster than light (which we'll ignore the impossibility of traveling at or faster than the speed of light), but it is traveling in a realm of space that has shorter distances between points than "real space." In fact, "real space" is a term used in the Star Wars universe to refer to our everyday space where planets, stars, asteroids, nebula and all other parts of the universe we interact with occupy. Hyperspace is a different area of space where distances are closer. It's like running your finger over the folds of a blanket that is all crumpled up, traversing the hills and valleys of the material (real space) and running your finger straight through the material, completely bypassing all of those ups and downs (hyperspace).
+PancakesThat DieWithValor Yeah, but I think Star Wars preceded the popularization of worm holes. Even so, it's not exactly the same because a wormhole is a pathway, hyperspace is another part of space.
Reginald Mizer except in episode 4 han solo states that the millennium falcon did the kesle run (or however you spell it) in under 12 parsecs. So that means I. the star wars universe a parsec is a measurement of time not distance. so when Padme says Geonosis is less than a parsec away she is talking about the time it will take to get there from tatooine
Ships in Star Wars move at the Speed of Plot. The hyperdrive Class Rating system is a way to try and explain Han's nonsensical statement to Luke. They would have to be going thousands to even millions of times the speed of light in hyperspace to get from the Core to the Rim.
actually, "Made the Kessell run in less than 12 parsecs" makes perfect sense, Kessel is a dangerous region of space riddled with danger, space monsters, untracked asteroid fields, black holes, imperial fleets, space pirates etc. It's safer to go all the way around, which takes much longer, but Han cut straight through it, regardless of the danger. Han was talking about how capable the ship was, and also it was apparently fast enough to dodge all those dangers.
Never heard of a ship hitting another ship, but i'd assume it's possible. Most hyperdrives have failsafes, if they detect a gravity well such as a planet then the ship drops out before impact. This does save crews, especially ones charting unknown systems, but it can be exploited. Interdictor ships, such as the one seen in the Star Wars Rebels TV series as well as legends material, project artifical gravity wells onto hyperspace lanes to pull any passing ships out.
My understanding is that as it approaches the object if the mass is large enough the gravity will pull the object out of hyperspace (The idea behind Interdictor cruisers), if the ship is lucky enough to be on the right trajectory it will miss the object itself suffering only the damage caused by the hyperdrive getting screwed over by the mass shadow. Those ships not lucky enough to miss the object just slam into it at what ever fraction or multiple of light speed it was traveling at
bowser515 that's not how hyperdrive works though. you aren't actually moving at that speed. you are standing still while space and time are being moved around you. at least that's the principle of how the theoretical FTL drive that might work irl one day operates on. I'm assuming it would work the same or similar in star wars since any of the adverse effects of traveling at or beyond the speed of light such as death or traveling into the future are not happening.
He's referencing a class system that was developed for the roleplaying game based on a single line of dialogue, "It can make point 5 past lightspeed" when Han is talking about how fast the Falcon is. The game associated that as the fastest Hyperdrive, and then issued a travel chart. Moving within or between core, mid rim, outer rim, etc had a default time with a random variance. Of course it has a flaw of making it quicker to fly to an outer rim planet on the opposite side of the galaxy than to fly to the core, and then fly to the outer rim. But simplification yo,
"We're detecting a massive object emerging from hyperspace" I'm glad they didn't show the Death star moving in Rogue one. It would just feel so unnatural.
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I REALLY wanted to see it, but on that scene it would have ruined the emotional moment. Still, they could have showed it in another moment
Do you have any thoughts on Laura Dern's character in episode 8? When I heard she'd be playing an aristocratic, opulent character I immediately thought of Lady Carise Sindian but I just read that she's going to be with the resistance. That doesn't mean it couldn't be her though; it actually gives her great potential to be interesting.
A shot in the dark would be Lady Carise from Bloodline. I think that's her name. Crooked politician in the New Republic and secret supporter of the First Order.
Considering I heard that she's supposed to have a power struggle with Leia and that they'er sort of rivals I think that her being Lady Carise is very likely.
Crimson Corsair that would be true, but sometimes the in universe characters call it light speed. But you are probably right, it is just something to make us know that it is going very fast
Maybe compared to us in the real world, star wars characters and planets and everything are really small so it doesnt take as long to travel in space... we wouldnt even know how small they are because there are no humans to scale to
The Death Star has one yes. This is clear because in A New Hope, the Death Star traveled to Alderaan to destroy it and then to Yavin to annihilate the Rebellion. As for Star Killer Base, it didn't need one since it could shoot from one side of the galaxy to the other.
Going only 1/4th the speed of light, or even 2x the speed of light would mean it would take *thousands* of years to travel the galaxy. The ships in Star Wars must travel many many times the speed of light to do what happens in the movies. The galaxy is approx. 100,000 light years across. Palpatine moves from Coruscant to the Outer Rim planet of Mustafar in little enough time to save Anakin. That's maybe 30-40,000 lightyears in a day? The Millennium Falcon is supposed to be faster, even though it seems to take longer to move from Tatooine to Alderaan.
You could have an amazing shot of the battle on scarif with the Death Star leaving hyperspace near the planet or into the path of the rebels approaching the planet, really just the Death Star appearing almost instantly
Besides, Tarkin was in command at the time as you might recall, he didn't consider the Rebel fighters to be a threat. And I quote, "Evacuate? At our moment of triumph? You rate their chances too highly"
from where it came from, it dropped out on the wrong side of Yavin (planet). Instead of using multiple short jumps to get around it, they just drove it with sublight engines to firing position.
Tarkin didn't believe the rebels were a tangible threat, also the death star was well inside the gravity well of Yavin, a supermassive Gas Giant. At least in the legends logic of hyperdrives, the Death Star would have to get a heck of a long way away under sublight power before it could jump.
It kinda need to be FTL capable though, since otherwise its a pretty pointless terror weapon. "Obey our mighty Empire or be destroyed... in a few thousand years"
the death star is slow compared to the rest of the ships in star wars. and MrLethalShots, weight is basicaly irrelevant in space even in high orbit of earth, mass however is everything in space, your ability to move and accelerate in space is purely determined on the force magnitude of your engines vs your ships mass, the greater the mass the greater the force required to move it anywhere within a humans lifespan.
it would be kinda make the death star and starkiller base useless if they couldn't. The death star's superlaser, as far as we know can't travel interstellar distances. And Starkiller's can but it needed to drain stars to power it's planet destroying weapons, how is it going to do that if it can't get to them?
Class 1 is not and can not be the speed of light. There is no way for the travel times to work (the SW galaxy is 100,000 lys, like ours, in both Legends and Canon. Tatooine and Yavin are on the opposite side of the galaxy. It simply doesn't work).
Vader the White Agreed. Someone actually done the math and as I remember the Millennium Falcon in that calculus is at least 1000000 times faster than the speed of light. I don't have the math here, but it's not difficult to find
here's the math: class 5 hyperdrive= 625,714*lightspeed class 4 hyperdrive= 782,143*lightspeed class 3 hyperdrive= 1,042,857*lightspeed class 2 hyperdrive= 1,564,286*lightspeed class 1 Hyperdrive= 3,128,571*lightspeed class 0.5 hyperdrive= 6,257,143*lightspeed i saw another user with who had calculated some rough estimates, i came up with these using exact values
Nico Mariggio Good point, just to get to alpha centauri (the closest star system to earth, about 4 light years away) it would take the millennium falcon 2 years; still a long time! 'Hyperspace' must shorten the actual physical distance, so traveling a little bit faster than the speed of light works.
Even traveling at 2x the speed of light, it would take the Falcon several years to travel from Alderaan to Yavin. I think the hyperdrive ratings in fact are for magnitudes much higher than what you laid out in the video.
i have a question according the influence of hyperdrvie systems by gravitywells. Is the Deathstar, especially the second one, wich was twice the size of the first one, so big and massive that it would affect the hayperdrive capebility of nearby starships?
I have a question that's been a picking at the back of my neck for almost 9 years now. How did the clone army transition from phase 1 armor to phase two armor during the war. Like was the armor shipped out to the clones and then they could change into it whenever they had time. Please if you can make a video explaining this I would be really happy and I'm pretty sure other people who don't know the answer will also be happy.
hi Alex! great video, i got you with hyperdrive speeds, its actually very easy to understand. Hyperdrive classes are listed proportionally to a standard base travel time or "class 1", or what is referred to in star wars in universe slang as "lightspeed" for ease of conversation, though in reality it as a entirely different velocity altogether. To determine the actual speeds of a given hyperdrive class we must determine what the base travel time is for a distance that is previously known. The base travel time for the galaxy, which is known to be 120 000 light years in diameter can be determined to be 336 hours. From this it is a simple matter to determine that a class one hyperdrive travels at 3,128,571*lightspeed, much faster than many people may initially believe. In determining the speed of say, a class 0.5 hyperdrive, we know that this would take half the base travel time of class 1 to traverse a given distance, or in other words, twice as fast at 6,257,143*lightspeed.
From my understanding, the speeds vessels are capable of traveling and/or distances they must traverse, while in hyperspace, are not a 1:1 ratio vs those same figures in real space; We see ships which don't have facilities for bathrooms, sleeping, or feed, traveling large portions of the galaxy, so we can't be talking about more than a few hours or days.
Kevin Gomolchak ships in star wars use special type of shields in hyperspace to protect from relativistic effect. there actually a book where the main characters ship travels from the old republic era to i think the rebellion or new republic era when these shields fail. and the ships travel way faster then this video says.
The Star Wars universe generally doesn't explain it's technology with science at all. All you need to know is there are hyperdrives that manage to propel ships from place to place through something called hyperspace at superluminal speeds without any relativistic effects. It just works and that's all you need to know. That is really how this science fantasy franchise is supposed to work. That's why it's so jarring when they try to include scientific (or faux scientific) exposition. Remember the whole midichlorian nonsense? Stick to the narrative and don't get too hung up on the hows and whys so long as it feels logical-ish. That's what Star Wars is best at. If you want science in your science fiction, pick a difference franchise.
After Episode 3 did the Empire use Venator-class Star Destroyer? in rebels season 3 a Venator-class Star Destroyer is seen when moff meet with the governor so did the empire use Venator-class Star Destroyer at all?
Brian OReilly They did, you can even see them at the end of episode 3, they were slowly replaced by Imperial Class Star Destroyers during the dark times
Is there a Legends or Cannon explanation where the name Amidala comes from? We know that Padme was born Padme Naberrie but I'm wondering if Amidala is a name they give to their rulers or if it's Great Britian type of thing where the ruler would then take on a new name once in a position of power.
This is good. A question that should really be obvious even from just the original movie is often questioned just because it's not explicitly seen. I know canon materials have stated that Starkiller base had one, too, but at first, I actually considered the possibility that the First Order was just that arrogant: build Starkiller base in a dual-star system; use one for the Republic, use the other for the Resistance. But then I did read later that it had a Hyperdrive, which does make more sense. I think it's also interesting how their shielding worked while in hyperspace. It must have been used to preserve the atmosphere around the planet, since, well, all the trees and people didn't just die the moment that thing went into light-speed. Ships and even the Death Star were all mechanical constructions, but Starkiller Base had to rely much more heavily on the shielding to protect every single living thing on the planet's surface!
There is, at least in legends, its called BOSS (Beureau Of Ships and Services). They are the oldest pangalactic organisation in the whole galaxy, predating the Republic by thousands of years and are responsible for building and maintaining a vast network of hyperspace beacons that mark out safe shipping routs, as well as regulating starship operations and legislation. Even the Empire never messed with BOSS, because of the sheer chaos that would result if they shut down the hyperspace beacon network.
There are simply known hyperspace lanes. Those lanes make sure you don't randomly jump into a black hole or some planet. Although not all of them are known, like a hyperspace lane that leads straight from Couruscant into the CIS territory. However ships seem to automatically calculate precise jumps that don't interfere with other ships, although this wouldn't work with the new Canon "Purgils" which are basically space whales that can travel in hyperspace. Long story short they sometimes destroy cargo ships or fleets while migrating.
In hyperspace there aren't actually other objects you could collide with. Only when leaving the hyperspace it could happen that you directly fly into another ship or the next star.
Imagine going about your day, on your way to work, and then out of nowhere this fuckin massive planet with a trench looking like an incomplete Ikea wardrobe comes along and a pretty cool neon light sucks the sun out of existence and then obliterates you.
I would be cool to see the Death Star enter hyperspace in Rogue One. It would also be cool to see stormtroopers being deployed on planets as well as Imperial walkers.
2:10 * Spoliers ahead * In rogue one you do not see the death star warp, you just hear a rebel officer say something along the lines of "a massive object has exited hyperspace" and then it cuts to a scene of the death star cresting the planet that the heroes are fighting on
Well if legends are included Starkiller base was not first planet with hyperdrive. In legends was mentioned Zonama Sekot, planet equiped with hyperdrive escaping to "unknown regions" from attack.
The West End game RPG had are a chart listing the time it takes to travel between major systems. You would multiply the time on the cart with the hyperdrive class to find how long a trip would take. A fast ship would have a multiple of 1. Most ships had a multiple 2. Only the Millennium Falcon had a multiple of 0.5.
Given the distance and the time hyperspace travel for the falcom is estimated in the millions of times light speed. The Death Star is about a few hundred of thousands times light speed
How long does it take for the Death Star super laser to charge and fire? If Tarkin dropped out of hyperspace and immediately destroyed Yavin, then recharged the super laser and hit Yavin 4 = Rebellion over!
The first one took 24 hours to recharge, the second could refire every ten minutes, since it basically had two reactors, the same size as the original Deathstar's main reactor, dedicated just to powering the super laser
You got an idea there. To be honest, following physics it probably would have been enough to kill Yavin itself. That thing is a gas giant, a superlaser fired upon it would end in it, well... ever heard of atomic fusion? Although it is doubtful that the Death Star would have survived that, if they didn't react in time and got the hell out of there.
Tac Son Two reactors for the super laser, I said, it did indeed have three reactors, with two of them purely for the main weapon and the thrid to power everything else on the station.
It's kind of a given that these "super weapons" will need to go into lightspeed to transcend different star systems, I suppose we never really needed to see this and just went with the flow of the movies. That being said, Yes, it would be pretty cool to see the Death Star go into "low" lightspeed in Rogue One just to put that nail in the coffin and bury this potential issue/question once and for all.
According to wookieepedia lightspeed is just a slangword for the speed you travel in hyperspace and not the actual speed of light. In fact a class 1.0 hyperdrive motivator allows a ship to travel 100.000 times faster the speed of light. Without FTL the whole star wars system wouldn't make any sence. Because a galaxy with a diameter of 120.000 lightyears and the Millenium Falcon as the fastest ship with a class 0.5 hyperdrive would need years to the next system.
I always thought all hyperspeed was about the same, what made one drive better than the other was its ability to calculate the shortest possible route. this is why han solo doing the route in a small parsec was so impressive, he was able to get there in the shortest length than most computers are able to do it in.
I have tried to figure out the speed rating for Star Wars in the past, but they are moving way faster than just the speed of light. Closest I can figure the class drive shows how many days it takes to travel from one side of the galaxy to the next in a straight line. But don't forget they need navigation computers and follow specific safe routes through space which would make it take longer. That's the best explanation I can come up with until they finally give a mathematical detail about what class 1 hyperdrive is actually doing lol.
Yeah it would be awesome to see the Death Star going into light speed but what would be even better visually is to see it come out of lightspeed. Essentially a massive command station just appearing out of nowhere is what it would look like
This video really got me thinking. The death star is massive, meaning that it would eat through tons of fuel in a seconds. Also since it's in a vacuum, the death star would maintain its course without propulsion until another force acted on it. My theory is that the death star leaves orbit with a shirt burst of propulsion, lets kinetic energy carry it around, then using a planet's orbit to stop it. Then again, if that were the case, the death star would be flung away every time it blasted a planet...
I have a hard time buying that a class 1.0 hyperdrive system moves at the speed of light. Just think about it, the galaxy is assumed to be 120,000 light-years in diameter, are we sure that a ship can travel form Tatooine to Coruscant in a matter of days? I don't think so. That means a hyperdrive class number of 1.0 has to be much faster that the speed of light. It doesn't add up if you don't.
In the game Star Wars: Empire at War, the death star could enter hyperspace with a fleet. Through it would slow the travel time a ton because the Death Star was so slow
So you are saying it would take a 1000 years to cross the galaxy in a class 1 hyper drive? Then the trip from tatooine to alderan should have taken, I dont know ABOUT 70 YEARS minimum.
This really can't be right. The speed of light is actually very slow when it comes to interstellar travel. For example, our nearest neighbor (closest star to us other than our own), is over 4 light years away. At the speed of light it would take over 4 years to get there. At 1/4 of the speed of light (the Death Star's supposed speed), it would take over 16 years to get there. If the Falcon can go twice the speed of light as you say, it would still take 2 years. And that's our closest neighbor. Crossing our galaxy at twice the speed of light would take about 50,000 years. Star Trek has very slow FTL travel compared to some other sci-fi shows. Warp 9.975 in Star Trek is 2922 times the speed of light. In Stargate, ships are even faster. Even "slow" Goa'uld ships go over 315,000 times the speed of light. Races capable of intergalactic travel like the Asgard have ships that go well over 6 billion times the speed of light.
Forget seeing it enter hyperspace. I want to see it exit hyperspace. Seeing the death star just materialize out of thin air in front of you would make an awesome jumpscare.
Is Center Point Station (in the Corellian system) still cannon? I would love to see something on that. In the books, it was WAY more powerful then ANY of the super weapons in that it could literally pull planets into hyperspace, and cause a star to super-nova.
I haven't read that much Legends, but I think the only superweapon that didn't have a hyperdrive was the Galaxy Gun from Dark Empire, which was stationary on the planet Byss.
In our galaxy, 0.25c is laughably slow for the distances involved in moving from one star system to even a neighboring system. In a galaxy far, far away, those distances are redunculously short.
Would there have been any way to destroy the death star using ships/other weapons. Some other ships like star destroyers had their own superlasers, I wonder if any of them could damage/destroy the death star, if it could penetrate it's shield and blow chunks of away. What about a death star vs another death star? I guess the first one to land the first superlaser shot on the other wins.
The hyperdrive classification is way off... sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. Even still, you're my favorite SW youtuber, and we all make mistakes
probably means that ligthspeed doesnt mean rate 1 and things over 1 are slower than light.. a ship with a class 4 hyperdrive still goes "faster than light" throught hyperspace.. The problem is that the term "light speed" is very ambigous in Star Wars.. if it means light speed like our concept (C or 300000km/s) its utterly slow .. yet Han says "she can go .5 faster than the speed of light" .. Maybe they mean something else.. meaybe Lucas cant write.. or maybe in the Star Wars universe light moves much much much faster than in ours (wich btw would explain how the Falcon got from Hoth to Bespin without a hyperdrive in less than 2 or 3 millenia)
lazy writing and it was after that retconned that falcon has 0.5 hyperdrive - practically the fastest there is. If the route on 0.5 hyperdrive will take 2 days, than on 2.0 hyperdrive it will indeed take 4 times as much, so 8 days. Provided it was exactly the same route. Since different hyperdrives had different resistance to gravity, the ever changing nature of galaxy, had to be acounted for. That's why most jumps were calculated by droids. Exact speeds aren't given (especially, since they would differ, depending on how far from the galaxy core the ship was), some expert working in LucasFilm studios calculated aproximation of the size of the galaxy. I don't remember exactly, but it was millions times faster than star trek Warp 9.9. Journey from earth to neptune would take less than quarter of second for Falcon. Search youtube for "which is faster star trek or star wars?".
yeah, I know, I watched that video. Still, it's obvious that the hyperdrive classification is not based off of lightspeed, but something like thousands of times of lightspeed.
Did you know in The Clone Wars Terra Sinuba's lightsaber color is a super light blue? I thought it was white, but I did research and it is just a super light blue. since kyber crystals get their color from the force and the personality could you do a video solely on him?
Death Star has a hyperdrive, confirmed. It was mentioned in Rogue One that a "huge object just exited hyperspace" or something... Death Star and hyperspace were mentioned though, I'm sure of that.
Light speed/hyper speed seems too slow for ships that have to move threw the galaxy. It especially doesn't make sense for Star Wars. I would understand if Star Wars had the warp like Star Trek or even 40k but it doesn't make much sense as to how ships can make it to other star systems in under a few hours...Unless the Star Wars galaxy is a lot smaller than our galaxy (which is possible).
Yeah. Lightspeed, in terms of just our Solar System alone, is really, really slow for the galactic scale of things. It takes about 4 hours for sunlight to reach Pluto. If the Death Star were to take the same trip at a 4th of the speed of light, it would take 16 hours. The Milky Way is about 100,000 lightyears across - it would take the Death Star 400,000 years to move from one end of our galaxy to the other, and 200,000 years to move half-way through it. The Star Wars galaxy either has to be a lot smaller, or there's a detail we're missing about Hyperspace.
1. I agree with your points that is a little strange that they can move that fast across such great distances. 2. It actually has been stated (although i forget exactly where) that the Star Wars galaxy is considerably smaller than ours. However, it is still a galaxy so it doesn't make much sense that they can travel that far in such short times. 3. Going to that last point, even though it may only seem like it takes a short time for ships to reach far destinations, it would actually probably take days, they just can't show that in movies, or it'd be really boring and reeeeeeaaaallyyyyyy long. 4. And finally, the kind of cheatsy answer; Star Wars isn't necessarily focused on being 100% scientifically accurate, that's why it falls under Fantasy, and not Sci-Fi. Hope this helps.
The star wars galaxy is between 100-120 thousand light years across. The points made on the hyperdrive classes were totally wrong, as he is basing it on han solo's comment "she'll make 0.5 past light speed" in IV. Here's a good source where someone took the time to actually work out how fast the hyperdrive on the falcon is isboards.theforce.net/threads/how-fast-is-the-millennium-falcon-in-hyper-drive.50038414/
that hole Lightspeed thing has to be reworked we know the Millennium Falcon has traveled from Tatooine to Alderaan and then to Yavin 4 in A New Hope that distance is practically across the Galaxy if it was only traveling twice as fast as the speed of light Luke Han and Chewbacca would have lived their whole lives and would have been dead for centuries before it reached Alderaan.
If the Falcon can only travel at twice the speed of light, it will still take them a very long time to go anywhere. Is that what hyperspace routes are for, like the trade winds where sailing ships and airplanes can travel faster?
The hyperdrive ratings indicated that the lower the number, the faster the ship. Thus, with a hyperdrive rating of 0.5, the Millennium Falcon was one of the fastest, if not the fastest ship in the STAR WARS universe. However, the very fact that the Death Star had an operational hyperdrive demonstrates that it was capable of traveling at the speed of light and considerably much faster (that is what 'hyperdrive' means) in order to traverse vast interstellar distances fast enough for the weapon to be a relevant, credible threat to any world within the Empire.
I'm reasonably sure class one was established at one point as the fastest one could move in hyperspace (many, many times the speed of light) and all other classes having a multiple of a class one's travel time. The Falcon is a product of (probably centuries worth) improved technology plus a nutcase installing a hyperdrive for a large fast cruiser in a small ship; in essence like dropping a semi truck engine into an SUV and then gearing it for speed. That, combined with a nav computer that could calculate risky, shorter routs to cut travel distance as well as use increased speed to further cut travel time.
The problem with that classification system is that if the death Star even had a class 1 it would take hundreds of years for it to move from Alderan to Yavin 4. I mean, it takes 8 minutes for light from the sun to reach Earth and it would take 32 at the death stars speed. The biggest problem I have with state wars although I have dreams about that stuff while taking tests.
At a quarter the speed of light, it would take about 16 years to get from the Sun to its nearest neighboring star system. It's far more likely that when Han says the Millennium Falcon can "make point five past light speed" that he's referring to something like speed in some unknown units within the hyperspace window. ie. being in hyperspace at all means you're traveling faster than light, and his ship can go at 0.5 hyperspeed, which could mean 50% of some theoretical speed limit within the hyperspace window. That's the only thing that even remotely makes sense. It could even mean it gets up to 0.5 lightspeed in ordinary space, if the way the hyperspace window works is that it behaves like ordinary space, but drastically reduces the distance between points in space similar to the concept of a wormhole.
I think everyone should give up trying to explain the speed of Starwars hyperdrives in absolute terms. The closest system to Earth is Proxima Centuri and it would take the Falcon over two years to cover that distance, unless the stars in the Starwars universe are REALLY close together none of it makes any sense anyway.
No need to resort to Legends information. The Death Star made two jumps in A New Hope. It jumped from wherever it started to Alderaan, and from Alderaan to Yavin. These are all interstellar journeys, and perhaps even trans-Galactic. Starkiller Base, on the other hand, devoured stars to charge the weapon. It was charged when we start the film, because it fired. It recharged later to fire again. This implies that the base jumped from the first star system, where it charged the first time, to the second star system, where it charged the second time.
based on the fact that our galaxy is about 100,000 light years across, I would be very surprised that Hyperdrives are that slow. I mean I thought that the empire stretched out throughout the whole galaxy, but even if it were the size of the smallest galaxy we've found M60-UCD1 which has a diameter of 160 light years, it would still take 80 years for the millennium falcon to traverse.
I believe a lot of the information that are in Star Wars facts books. Like locations, visual dictionary and vehicle cross-sections are considered canon information. So basically any and all superweapons in canon and legends have hyperdrives
It's been retconned that hyperspace travel isn't at or around the speed of light otherwise it would take thousands of years to go from star system to star system
ya it was on some other channel that hyperspace is like 500,000 times the speed of light which is pretty fast
@@RandomNameLastName811 the galaxy is 100,000 LY across. There are plenty of stars a few thousand LY apart.
Lol not “retconned”, it was never like that in canon. Legends did a lot of stuff that I really really hated and made no sense.
@Logan 7877 The hope is the Alcubierre Warp Drive. Look it up, read about it. That is what will get us around the galaxy in seconds.
@@chewy99. not in seconds bud. As fast as the warp bubble can go. More energy than the sun though. Dont think it'll ever happen.
Mistake: you said "The speed of light is considered a class 1." This contradicts the Wookiepedia, which states "The hyperdrive class acted as a multiplier for a given base travel time." This means that a class 1 would be the basis for all other classes. This does not mean that the speed of light is a class 1. If the millennium falcon were a class 0.5, it would take over 50,000 years for it to traverse the entire galaxy according to your rating system. In the franchise, it takes the millennium falcon only hours or days to make this type of journey. The class system is based on a base speed, not the speed of light.
It could be the speed of light, ships use normal propulsion within hyperspace. Thats why they accelerate into it, with a thrust flare of the engines. The higher the velocity the engines can reach the faster it would travel through hyperspace, thus the shorter journey time as hyperspace is essentially just a "shortcut" where a given velocity moves you much faster than it would in normal space.
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The fact you use wookiepedia says all I need to know about you.
ok nerd
oooh, i get it now
When we saw the Starkiller beam, it wasn't just light traveling through the galaxy, the beam was actually disrupting hyperspace itself. Hyperspace, the higher dimension than our own is hundreds of times faster than light in real space. Being a higher dimension, it's very unstable and beyond our comprehension.
Ships in the SW universe must travel faster than light in order to enter hyperspace. it's sort of like how the Delorean from "Back to the Future" works.
Oh, so does that mean if it's moving at 2 times the speed of light to enter hyperspace, it is traveling much faster than that via hyperspace itself? Otherwise, the SW galaxy would have to be a tiny galaxy in order for ships to get anywhere within lifespans.
"Lightspeed" in SW is basically slang for hyperspace. In my research, I believe .5 means 25,000 light years per day which is 1,041.66 light years per hour. This would mean .1 past "lightspeed" is 5,000 light years per day. It's measured as a portion of the whole, the whole being 50,000 light years (per day).
In canon, the SW galaxy is just as big as our own.
Tom Barnes so basically everything in this video was wrong?
No, the video wasn't wrong. I just believe hyperdrives are organized a little differently. Here's my analysis: twitter.com/TABII98_1911/status/803602875695833089
Hyperspace has to be more than just traveling near/at/past light speed. Let's use the relationship between Geonosis and Tatooine as an example because it's one of the few distances given in canon. In Episode II, Padme says Geonosis is "less than a parsec away" from their location on Tatooine. A parsec is roughly 3 light years. This makes sense as the closest star to us outside of our solar system is roughly 4 light years away. So, if the ship Padme and Anakin were traveling on from Tatooine to Geonosis was traveling at the speed of light, it would have taken them at least one year (if not more, as we have as much as a 3 light year distance between the two planets) to travel the distance.
The way I understand hyperspace is that not only is the ship traveling near/at/faster than light (which we'll ignore the impossibility of traveling at or faster than the speed of light), but it is traveling in a realm of space that has shorter distances between points than "real space." In fact, "real space" is a term used in the Star Wars universe to refer to our everyday space where planets, stars, asteroids, nebula and all other parts of the universe we interact with occupy. Hyperspace is a different area of space where distances are closer. It's like running your finger over the folds of a blanket that is all crumpled up, traversing the hills and valleys of the material (real space) and running your finger straight through the material, completely bypassing all of those ups and downs (hyperspace).
yeah hyperspace is just a new dimension, and so the distance is as you said much closer,
Reginald Mizer You literally just described a worm hole. A short cut to another destination over a long distance but reduced to a fraction of it.
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Yeah, but I think Star Wars preceded the popularization of worm holes. Even so, it's not exactly the same because a wormhole is a pathway, hyperspace is another part of space.
Reginald Mizer except in episode 4 han solo states that the millennium falcon did the kesle run (or however you spell it) in under 12 parsecs. So that means I. the star wars universe a parsec is a measurement of time not distance. so when Padme says Geonosis is less than a parsec away she is talking about the time it will take to get there from tatooine
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel_Run
Nope
Ships in Star Wars move at the Speed of Plot. The hyperdrive Class Rating system is a way to try and explain Han's nonsensical statement to Luke. They would have to be going thousands to even millions of times the speed of light in hyperspace to get from the Core to the Rim.
actually, "Made the Kessell run in less than 12 parsecs" makes perfect sense, Kessel is a dangerous region of space riddled with danger, space monsters, untracked asteroid fields, black holes, imperial fleets, space pirates etc. It's safer to go all the way around, which takes much longer, but Han cut straight through it, regardless of the danger.
Han was talking about how capable the ship was, and also it was apparently fast enough to dodge all those dangers.
Jon Sleeper just a lazy explanation. you guys try to rationalize everything.
Carlos Leon I mean, it makes the universe feel more logical!
Have there been any collisions where something traveling at hyper speed collided with a ship, planet, and what happened?
Weblly Studios it can happen but it is really rare
Weblly Studios i think it will only happen when you hyperspace through unknown regions, as you dont know whats going to come at you
Never heard of a ship hitting another ship, but i'd assume it's possible.
Most hyperdrives have failsafes, if they detect a gravity well such as a planet then the ship drops out before impact. This does save crews, especially ones charting unknown systems, but it can be exploited. Interdictor ships, such as the one seen in the Star Wars Rebels TV series as well as legends material, project artifical gravity wells onto hyperspace lanes to pull any passing ships out.
My understanding is that as it approaches the object if the mass is large enough the gravity will pull the object out of hyperspace (The idea behind Interdictor cruisers), if the ship is lucky enough to be on the right trajectory it will miss the object itself suffering only the damage caused by the hyperdrive getting screwed over by the mass shadow. Those ships not lucky enough to miss the object just slam into it at what ever fraction or multiple of light speed it was traveling at
bowser515 that's not how hyperdrive works though. you aren't actually moving at that speed. you are standing still while space and time are being moved around you. at least that's the principle of how the theoretical FTL drive that might work irl one day operates on. I'm assuming it would work the same or similar in star wars since any of the adverse effects of traveling at or beyond the speed of light such as death or traveling into the future are not happening.
Wait Wait Wait! it takes light 4 years to go the nearest star, so it would take the falcon 2 years! so unless they hypersleep it didn't make sense.
EpicFish his information is wrong
yeah that's what im thinking, unless their galaxy are allot smaller than ours and the distance between their stars is tiny =P
EpicFish Yeah, this video is awful.
He's referencing a class system that was developed for the roleplaying game based on a single line of dialogue, "It can make point 5 past lightspeed" when Han is talking about how fast the Falcon is. The game associated that as the fastest Hyperdrive, and then issued a travel chart. Moving within or between core, mid rim, outer rim, etc had a default time with a random variance.
Of course it has a flaw of making it quicker to fly to an outer rim planet on the opposite side of the galaxy than to fly to the core, and then fly to the outer rim. But simplification yo,
chris pearson no. The line of dialogue was just the basis for system.
As to how the video got the mechanics so wrong is another discussion.
"We're detecting a massive object emerging from hyperspace"
I'm glad they didn't show the Death star moving in Rogue one. It would just feel so unnatural.
I REALLY wanted to see it, but on that scene it would have ruined the emotional moment. Still, they could have showed it in another moment
oh crap what the heck just happend with the video
Yeah
I thought there was something wrong with my phone haha
What happend
Do you have any thoughts on Laura Dern's character in episode 8? When I heard she'd be playing an aristocratic, opulent character I immediately thought of Lady Carise Sindian but I just read that she's going to be with the resistance. That doesn't mean it couldn't be her though; it actually gives her great potential to be interesting.
A shot in the dark would be Lady Carise from Bloodline. I think that's her name. Crooked politician in the New Republic and secret supporter of the First Order.
Considering I heard that she's supposed to have a power struggle with Leia and that they'er sort of rivals I think that her being Lady Carise is very likely.
Star Wars Explained They talk about the death stars hyperdrive in the book Tarkin
Alas it was not her.
Wouldn't ships fly much faster than light speed, because if they didn't it would take years for people to get from planet to planet?
Janus Krue Berg yes they travelled faster than lightspeed. that's what we cal "hyperspeed" from a hyperdrive.
Crimson Corsair but why do they then repeatedly call it "light speed"?
Janus Krue Berg its just our earth way of talking about it, vos light speed is the fastest speed we know.
Crimson Corsair that would be true, but sometimes the in universe characters call it light speed. But you are probably right, it is just something to make us know that it is going very fast
Maybe compared to us in the real world, star wars characters and planets and everything are really small so it doesnt take as long to travel in space... we wouldnt even know how small they are because there are no humans to scale to
The Death Star has one yes. This is clear because in A New Hope, the Death Star traveled to Alderaan to destroy it and then to Yavin to annihilate the Rebellion. As for Star Killer Base, it didn't need one since it could shoot from one side of the galaxy to the other.
No, they move at sub-luminal speed. It took about 100,000 years between each shot.
That works sort of like stop-motion animation then. :->
Going only 1/4th the speed of light, or even 2x the speed of light would mean it would take *thousands* of years to travel the galaxy. The ships in Star Wars must travel many many times the speed of light to do what happens in the movies.
The galaxy is approx. 100,000 light years across. Palpatine moves from Coruscant to the Outer Rim planet of Mustafar in little enough time to save Anakin. That's maybe 30-40,000 lightyears in a day?
The Millennium Falcon is supposed to be faster, even though it seems to take longer to move from Tatooine to Alderaan.
You could have an amazing shot of the battle on scarif with the Death Star leaving hyperspace near the planet or into the path of the rebels approaching the planet, really just the Death Star appearing almost instantly
I thought Hyperspace was an alternate dimension? This measurement of speed is weird.
I thought we were going Elite Dangerous status here.
It is.
That is also how it is in canon. Disney just can't keep track of this stuff and don't care about the franchise.
@@nofacedgoldfish6216 but this video was about legends...
So why did the Death Star not go into hyperspace wean they were doing the trench run
Darth Vader They didn't want to miss the opportunity of destroying Yavin 4, which of course was the planet that was home to an important rebel base.
Besides, Tarkin was in command at the time as you might recall, he didn't consider the Rebel fighters to be a threat. And I quote, "Evacuate? At our moment of triumph? You rate their chances too highly"
The real question why isnt the deathstar just exit hyperspace around the yavin 4 rather than behind the red plant...
from where it came from, it dropped out on the wrong side of Yavin (planet). Instead of using multiple short jumps to get around it, they just drove it with sublight engines to firing position.
Tarkin didn't believe the rebels were a tangible threat, also the death star was well inside the gravity well of Yavin, a supermassive Gas Giant. At least in the legends logic of hyperdrives, the Death Star would have to get a heck of a long way away under sublight power before it could jump.
"Sir, we're detecting a massive object emerging from hyperspace!" Admiral Raddus, during the battle of scarif
I really don't like the idea of something that big being able to travel that fast
It kinda need to be FTL capable though, since otherwise its a pretty pointless terror weapon. "Obey our mighty Empire or be destroyed... in a few thousand years"
SUPERSTORM owen superweapns are the worst part of star wars.
the death star is slow compared to the rest of the ships in star wars.
and MrLethalShots, weight is basicaly irrelevant in space even in high orbit of earth, mass however is everything in space, your ability to move and accelerate in space is purely determined on the force magnitude of your engines vs your ships mass, the greater the mass the greater the force required to move it anywhere within a humans lifespan.
it would be kinda make the death star and starkiller base useless if they couldn't. The death star's superlaser, as far as we know can't travel interstellar distances. And Starkiller's can but it needed to drain stars to power it's planet destroying weapons, how is it going to do that if it can't get to them?
I know, especially the ball shape.
Class 1 is not and can not be the speed of light. There is no way for the travel times to work (the SW galaxy is 100,000 lys, like ours, in both Legends and Canon. Tatooine and Yavin are on the opposite side of the galaxy. It simply doesn't work).
Vader the White Agreed. Someone actually done the math and as I remember the Millennium Falcon in that calculus is at least 1000000 times faster than the speed of light. I don't have the math here, but it's not difficult to find
Maybe the speed of light in the Star Wars universe is just much faster than here.
here's the math:
class 5 hyperdrive= 625,714*lightspeed
class 4 hyperdrive= 782,143*lightspeed
class 3 hyperdrive= 1,042,857*lightspeed
class 2 hyperdrive= 1,564,286*lightspeed
class 1 Hyperdrive= 3,128,571*lightspeed
class 0.5 hyperdrive= 6,257,143*lightspeed
i saw another user with who had calculated some rough estimates, i came up with these using exact values
Yaeh, it was something that big. Nice, pretty dawn fast
don't forget : the faster you move the slower time goes by,
Imagine the dudes on the international space station see a small moon zip past them. “Houston we have a problem”
If the Millennium Falcon only moved at twice the speed of light it would take years to get to another star
Nico Mariggio Good point, just to get to alpha centauri (the closest star system to earth, about 4 light years away) it would take the millennium falcon 2 years; still a long time! 'Hyperspace' must shorten the actual physical distance, so traveling a little bit faster than the speed of light works.
Even traveling at 2x the speed of light, it would take the Falcon several years to travel from Alderaan to Yavin. I think the hyperdrive ratings in fact are for magnitudes much higher than what you laid out in the video.
"I can't explain hyperspace that well..."
Dude, you're Star Wars explained. You're not allowed to say "I can't explain"
1:31 is the glitching video is meant to be there or its just an error of the recording software
i have a question according the influence of hyperdrvie systems by gravitywells. Is the Deathstar, especially the second one, wich was twice the size of the first one, so big and massive that it would affect the hayperdrive capebility of nearby starships?
I have a question that's been a picking at the back of my neck for almost 9 years now. How did the clone army transition from phase 1 armor to phase two armor during the war. Like was the armor shipped out to the clones and then they could change into it whenever they had time. Please if you can make a video explaining this I would be really happy and I'm pretty sure other people who don't know the answer will also be happy.
hi Alex! great video, i got you with hyperdrive speeds, its actually very easy to understand. Hyperdrive classes are listed proportionally to a standard base travel time or "class 1", or what is referred to in star wars in universe slang as "lightspeed" for ease of conversation, though in reality it as a entirely different velocity altogether. To determine the actual speeds of a given hyperdrive class we must determine what the base travel time is for a distance that is previously known. The base travel time for the galaxy, which is known to be 120 000 light years in diameter can be determined to be 336 hours. From this it is a simple matter to determine that a class one hyperdrive travels at 3,128,571*lightspeed, much faster than many people may initially believe. In determining the speed of say, a class 0.5 hyperdrive, we know that this would take half the base travel time of class 1 to traverse a given distance, or in other words, twice as fast at 6,257,143*lightspeed.
From my understanding, the speeds vessels are capable of traveling and/or distances they must traverse, while in hyperspace, are not a 1:1 ratio vs those same figures in real space; We see ships which don't have facilities for bathrooms, sleeping, or feed, traveling large portions of the galaxy, so we can't be talking about more than a few hours or days.
Those lightspeed numbers make no sense. What about relativity?
Kevin Gomolchak it's Star Wars EU/Cannon stuff doesn't need to make sense based on real Science. It's a space Drama
Kevin Gomolchak ships in star wars use special type of shields in hyperspace to protect from relativistic effect. there actually a book where the main characters ship travels from the old republic era to i think the rebellion or new republic era when these shields fail. and the ships travel way faster then this video says.
It probably warps spacetime or something like that.
What do you think they’re talking about when they say “hyperspace”...?!
The Star Wars universe generally doesn't explain it's technology with science at all. All you need to know is there are hyperdrives that manage to propel ships from place to place through something called hyperspace at superluminal speeds without any relativistic effects. It just works and that's all you need to know.
That is really how this science fantasy franchise is supposed to work. That's why it's so jarring when they try to include scientific (or faux scientific) exposition. Remember the whole midichlorian nonsense? Stick to the narrative and don't get too hung up on the hows and whys so long as it feels logical-ish. That's what Star Wars is best at.
If you want science in your science fiction, pick a difference franchise.
can you do a series on the hyperdrive classes and what ships had them
After Episode 3 did the Empire use Venator-class Star Destroyer? in rebels season 3 a Venator-class Star Destroyer is seen when moff meet with the governor so did the empire use Venator-class Star Destroyer at all?
Brian OReilly They did, you can even see them at the end of episode 3, they were slowly replaced by Imperial Class Star Destroyers during the dark times
I think Death Star has. Because in the end of Rouge One, it jumped out from hyperspace at Scarif
Is there a Legends or Cannon explanation where the name Amidala comes from? We know that Padme was born Padme Naberrie but I'm wondering if Amidala is a name they give to their rulers or if it's Great Britian type of thing where the ruler would then take on a new name once in a position of power.
Hyperspace can be weird at times & sometimes we don’t understand it.
At around 1:30 did ur screen spaz out
This is good. A question that should really be obvious even from just the original movie is often questioned just because it's not explicitly seen.
I know canon materials have stated that Starkiller base had one, too, but at first, I actually considered the possibility that the First Order was just that arrogant: build Starkiller base in a dual-star system; use one for the Republic, use the other for the Resistance. But then I did read later that it had a Hyperdrive, which does make more sense.
I think it's also interesting how their shielding worked while in hyperspace. It must have been used to preserve the atmosphere around the planet, since, well, all the trees and people didn't just die the moment that thing went into light-speed. Ships and even the Death Star were all mechanical constructions, but Starkiller Base had to rely much more heavily on the shielding to protect every single living thing on the planet's surface!
2:30 can someone please explain how the death star is upside down
Hey can you do a coverage on battle of sector nine. Found it on wookieepedia but says there is no proof. Maybe you can find source?
How fast do star destroyers go through hyperspace is it faster or slower then the Death Star
what about in empire strikes back when han solo has to fly the millennium falcon from hoth to besbin without a hyperdrive. how long would it take?
Even with light speed it would take months or years (even to neighboring solar system). That was a dumb movie mistake.
TheBlur I think their universe is a lot smaller than ours
Actually, their galaxy is about 20% bigger than the Milky Way!
Roger Worsley wheredid you here this?
did the death star have a bar for drinks
leon Shepard Yes the death star does have a bar. It was confirmed in the novel Aftermath:Life Debt
leon Shepard
I'd assume it had multiple bars one lil shitty bar won't fill up the entire stations crew ;P
In fact, in Legends, The Daeth Star was described as having City Sectors, to house its personelle, which had all manner of civil amenities
death star bar selling death sticks
But does it have a wine bar
Is there some kind of air traffic control in Star Wars? How do ships know where other ships are at to avoid collision while in hyperspace?
There is, at least in legends, its called BOSS (Beureau Of Ships and Services). They are the oldest pangalactic organisation in the whole galaxy, predating the Republic by thousands of years and are responsible for building and maintaining a vast network of hyperspace beacons that mark out safe shipping routs, as well as regulating starship operations and legislation. Even the Empire never messed with BOSS, because of the sheer chaos that would result if they shut down the hyperspace beacon network.
There's something called a hyperspace lanes in order to safely travel sector to sector
There are simply known hyperspace lanes. Those lanes make sure you don't randomly jump into a black hole or some planet. Although not all of them are known, like a hyperspace lane that leads straight from Couruscant into the CIS territory. However ships seem to automatically calculate precise jumps that don't interfere with other ships, although this wouldn't work with the new Canon "Purgils" which are basically space whales that can travel in hyperspace. Long story short they sometimes destroy cargo ships or fleets while migrating.
In hyperspace there aren't actually other objects you could collide with. Only when leaving the hyperspace it could happen that you directly fly into another ship or the next star.
It seems unnecessary, as space is so large.
The Death Stars did, star killer didn’t need one
Imagine going about your day, on your way to work, and then out of nowhere this fuckin massive planet with a trench looking like an incomplete Ikea wardrobe comes along and a pretty cool neon light sucks the sun out of existence and then obliterates you.
Rogue one did finally say that the DeathStar can travel thru hyperspace. Sadly they didn't show it doing so. Would of been amazing
0:36 "The primary hyperdrive had a class rating of 4, and the backup had a class rating of 20."
OH MY GOD.
THE DEATH STAR HYPERDRIVE WAS 4/20
*DANK*
I would be cool to see the Death Star enter hyperspace in Rogue One. It would also be cool to see stormtroopers being deployed on planets as well as Imperial walkers.
why are the lasers blast different colors and what gives them there color like blue,green and red.
From 1:30 to 1:48 your camera was glitchy.
hey code u make a video about Separatist vehicles
2:10
* Spoliers ahead *
In rogue one you do not see the death star warp, you just hear a rebel officer say something along the lines of "a massive object has exited hyperspace" and then it cuts to a scene of the death star cresting the planet that the heroes are fighting on
Why does the Deathstar in Rogue one has the dish section lower and then returns to the upper section and how does that actually work?!
Well if legends are included Starkiller base was not first planet with hyperdrive. In legends was mentioned Zonama Sekot, planet equiped with hyperdrive escaping to "unknown regions" from attack.
Weird. The video picture starts glitching when you get to Starkiller Base.
The West End game RPG had are a chart listing the time it takes to travel between major systems. You would multiply the time on the cart with the hyperdrive class to find how long a trip would take. A fast ship would have a multiple of 1. Most ships had a multiple 2. Only the Millennium Falcon had a multiple of 0.5.
Given the distance and the time hyperspace travel for the falcom is estimated in the millions of times light speed. The Death Star is about a few hundred of thousands times light speed
Learned something new. Thank you for sharing.
How long does it take for the Death Star super laser to charge and fire? If Tarkin dropped out of hyperspace and immediately destroyed Yavin, then recharged the super laser and hit Yavin 4 = Rebellion over!
GuyFrankland I think it takes 24 hours (one day) to charge the superlaser again after firing.
The first one took 24 hours to recharge, the second could refire every ten minutes, since it basically had two reactors, the same size as the original Deathstar's main reactor, dedicated just to powering the super laser
weldonwin The 2nd death star had 3 reactors and all it took was about 5 minutes for another shot.
You got an idea there. To be honest, following physics it probably would have been enough to kill Yavin itself. That thing is a gas giant, a superlaser fired upon it would end in it, well... ever heard of atomic fusion? Although it is doubtful that the Death Star would have survived that, if they didn't react in time and got the hell out of there.
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Two reactors for the super laser, I said, it did indeed have three reactors, with two of them purely for the main weapon and the thrid to power everything else on the station.
It's kind of a given that these "super weapons" will need to go into lightspeed to transcend different star systems, I suppose we never really needed to see this and just went with the flow of the movies.
That being said, Yes, it would be pretty cool to see the Death Star go into "low" lightspeed in Rogue One just to put that nail in the coffin and bury this potential issue/question once and for all.
2:04 you can see republic fleet guarding the planet exploded
According to wookieepedia lightspeed is just a slangword for the speed you travel in hyperspace and not the actual speed of light. In fact a class 1.0 hyperdrive motivator allows a ship to travel 100.000 times faster the speed of light. Without FTL the whole star wars system wouldn't make any sence. Because a galaxy with a diameter of 120.000 lightyears and the Millenium Falcon as the fastest ship with a class 0.5 hyperdrive would need years to the next system.
I always thought all hyperspeed was about the same, what made one drive better than the other was its ability to calculate the shortest possible route. this is why han solo doing the route in a small parsec was so impressive, he was able to get there in the shortest length than most computers are able to do it in.
I have tried to figure out the speed rating for Star Wars in the past, but they are moving way faster than just the speed of light. Closest I can figure the class drive shows how many days it takes to travel from one side of the galaxy to the next in a straight line. But don't forget they need navigation computers and follow specific safe routes through space which would make it take longer. That's the best explanation I can come up with until they finally give a mathematical detail about what class 1 hyperdrive is actually doing lol.
Yeah it would be awesome to see the Death Star going into light speed but what would be even better visually is to see it come out of lightspeed. Essentially a massive command station just appearing out of nowhere is what it would look like
If you haven't already, could you do a video explaining why Obi-Wan's body disappeared when he died?
Very epic, thanks for the explanation
This video really got me thinking.
The death star is massive, meaning that it would eat through tons of fuel in a seconds. Also since it's in a vacuum, the death star would maintain its course without propulsion until another force acted on it.
My theory is that the death star leaves orbit with a shirt burst of propulsion, lets kinetic energy carry it around, then using a planet's orbit to stop it.
Then again, if that were the case, the death star would be flung away every time it blasted a planet...
I have a hard time buying that a class 1.0 hyperdrive system moves at the speed of light. Just think about it, the galaxy is assumed to be 120,000 light-years in diameter, are we sure that a ship can travel form Tatooine to Coruscant in a matter of days? I don't think so. That means a hyperdrive class number of 1.0 has to be much faster that the speed of light. It doesn't add up if you don't.
In the game Star Wars: Empire at War, the death star could enter hyperspace with a fleet. Through it would slow the travel time a ton because the Death Star was so slow
So you are saying it would take a 1000 years to cross the galaxy in a class 1 hyper drive? Then the trip from tatooine to alderan should have taken, I dont know ABOUT 70 YEARS minimum.
This really can't be right. The speed of light is actually very slow when it comes to interstellar travel. For example, our nearest neighbor (closest star to us other than our own), is over 4 light years away. At the speed of light it would take over 4 years to get there. At 1/4 of the speed of light (the Death Star's supposed speed), it would take over 16 years to get there. If the Falcon can go twice the speed of light as you say, it would still take 2 years. And that's our closest neighbor. Crossing our galaxy at twice the speed of light would take about 50,000 years. Star Trek has very slow FTL travel compared to some other sci-fi shows. Warp 9.975 in Star Trek is 2922 times the speed of light. In Stargate, ships are even faster. Even "slow" Goa'uld ships go over 315,000 times the speed of light. Races capable of intergalactic travel like the Asgard have ships that go well over 6 billion times the speed of light.
Forget seeing it enter hyperspace. I want to see it exit hyperspace.
Seeing the death star just materialize out of thin air in front of you would make an awesome jumpscare.
Starkiller base: Kylo: Whats the weather gonna be here? Hux: Very windy
Is Center Point Station (in the Corellian system) still cannon? I would love to see something on that. In the books, it was WAY more powerful then ANY of the super weapons in that it could literally pull planets into hyperspace, and cause a star to super-nova.
I haven't read that much Legends, but I think the only superweapon that didn't have a hyperdrive was the Galaxy Gun from Dark Empire, which was stationary on the planet Byss.
In our galaxy, 0.25c is laughably slow for the distances involved in moving from one star system to even a neighboring system. In a galaxy far, far away, those distances are redunculously short.
i never thought about that, but thanks for the information. :)
Would there have been any way to destroy the death star using ships/other weapons. Some other ships like star destroyers had their own superlasers, I wonder if any of them could damage/destroy the death star, if it could penetrate it's shield and blow chunks of away. What about a death star vs another death star? I guess the first one to land the first superlaser shot on the other wins.
The hyperdrive classification is way off... sorry, but that just doesn't make sense. Even still, you're my favorite SW youtuber, and we all make mistakes
Jedi Archives Could you link to something showing the proper clarification?
probably means that ligthspeed doesnt mean rate 1 and things over 1 are slower than light.. a ship with a class 4 hyperdrive still goes "faster than light" throught hyperspace..
The problem is that the term "light speed" is very ambigous in Star Wars.. if it means light speed like our concept (C or 300000km/s) its utterly slow .. yet Han says "she can go .5 faster than the speed of light" ..
Maybe they mean something else.. meaybe Lucas cant write.. or maybe in the Star Wars universe light moves much much much faster than in ours (wich btw would explain how the Falcon got from Hoth to Bespin without a hyperdrive in less than 2 or 3 millenia)
lazy writing and it was after that retconned that falcon has 0.5 hyperdrive - practically the fastest there is. If the route on 0.5 hyperdrive will take 2 days, than on 2.0 hyperdrive it will indeed take 4 times as much, so 8 days. Provided it was exactly the same route. Since different hyperdrives had different resistance to gravity, the ever changing nature of galaxy, had to be acounted for. That's why most jumps were calculated by droids. Exact speeds aren't given (especially, since they would differ, depending on how far from the galaxy core the ship was), some expert working in LucasFilm studios calculated aproximation of the size of the galaxy. I don't remember exactly, but it was millions times faster than star trek Warp 9.9. Journey from earth to neptune would take less than quarter of second for Falcon. Search youtube for "which is faster star trek or star wars?".
yeah, I know, I watched that video. Still, it's obvious that the hyperdrive classification is not based off of lightspeed, but something like thousands of times of lightspeed.
Maybe this will help. boards.theforce.net/threads/how-fast-is-the-millennium-falcon-in-hyper-drive.50038414/
Did you know in The Clone Wars Terra Sinuba's lightsaber color is a super light blue? I thought it was white, but I did research and it is just a super light blue. since kyber crystals get their color from the force and the personality could you do a video solely on him?
Death Star has a hyperdrive, confirmed. It was mentioned in Rogue One that a "huge object just exited hyperspace" or something... Death Star and hyperspace were mentioned though, I'm sure of that.
Light speed/hyper speed seems too slow for ships that have to move threw the galaxy. It especially doesn't make sense for Star Wars. I would understand if Star Wars had the warp like Star Trek or even 40k but it doesn't make much sense as to how ships can make it to other star systems in under a few hours...Unless the Star Wars galaxy is a lot smaller than our galaxy (which is possible).
Yeah. Lightspeed, in terms of just our Solar System alone, is really, really slow for the galactic scale of things. It takes about 4 hours for sunlight to reach Pluto. If the Death Star were to take the same trip at a 4th of the speed of light, it would take 16 hours.
The Milky Way is about 100,000 lightyears across - it would take the Death Star 400,000 years to move from one end of our galaxy to the other, and 200,000 years to move half-way through it. The Star Wars galaxy either has to be a lot smaller, or there's a detail we're missing about Hyperspace.
1. I agree with your points that is a little strange that they can move that fast across such great distances.
2. It actually has been stated (although i forget exactly where) that the Star Wars galaxy is considerably smaller than ours. However, it is still a galaxy so it doesn't make much sense that they can travel that far in such short times.
3. Going to that last point, even though it may only seem like it takes a short time for ships to reach far destinations, it would actually probably take days, they just can't show that in movies, or it'd be really boring and reeeeeeaaaallyyyyyy long.
4. And finally, the kind of cheatsy answer; Star Wars isn't necessarily focused on being 100% scientifically accurate, that's why it falls under Fantasy, and not Sci-Fi.
Hope this helps.
Hyperspace is more than just lightspeed. It's an entirely different dimension, where I would assume distances are much shorter.
So it's like the warp then?
The star wars galaxy is between 100-120 thousand light years across. The points made on the hyperdrive classes were totally wrong, as he is basing it on han solo's comment "she'll make 0.5 past light speed" in IV.
Here's a good source where someone took the time to actually work out how fast the hyperdrive on the falcon is isboards.theforce.net/threads/how-fast-is-the-millennium-falcon-in-hyper-drive.50038414/
that hole Lightspeed thing has to be reworked we know the Millennium Falcon has traveled from Tatooine to Alderaan and then to Yavin 4 in A New Hope that distance is practically across the Galaxy if it was only traveling twice as fast as the speed of light Luke Han and Chewbacca would have lived their whole lives and would have been dead for centuries before it reached Alderaan.
If the Falcon can only travel at twice the speed of light, it will still take them a very long time to go anywhere. Is that what hyperspace routes are for, like the trade winds where sailing ships and airplanes can travel faster?
The hyperdrive ratings indicated that the lower the number, the faster the ship. Thus, with a hyperdrive rating of 0.5, the Millennium Falcon was one of the fastest, if not the fastest ship in the STAR WARS universe. However, the very fact that the Death Star had an operational hyperdrive demonstrates that it was capable of traveling at the speed of light and considerably much faster (that is what 'hyperdrive' means) in order to traverse vast interstellar distances fast enough for the weapon to be a relevant, credible threat to any world within the Empire.
I'm reasonably sure class one was established at one point as the fastest one could move in hyperspace (many, many times the speed of light) and all other classes having a multiple of a class one's travel time. The Falcon is a product of (probably centuries worth) improved technology plus a nutcase installing a hyperdrive for a large fast cruiser in a small ship; in essence like dropping a semi truck engine into an SUV and then gearing it for speed. That, combined with a nav computer that could calculate risky, shorter routs to cut travel distance as well as use increased speed to further cut travel time.
Ok, how can holograms still work with no delay, even with the signals transversing through vast quantities of space?
I would love to see the Death Star in Rouge One go in to Hyperdrive !! :)
The problem with that classification system is that if the death Star even had a class 1 it would take hundreds of years for it to move from Alderan to Yavin 4. I mean, it takes 8 minutes for light from the sun to reach Earth and it would take 32 at the death stars speed. The biggest problem I have with state wars although I have dreams about that stuff while taking tests.
So, how does the Death Star get into hyperspace? Normal ships have engines and thrusters, what pushes the Death Star along?
At a quarter the speed of light, it would take about 16 years to get from the Sun to its nearest neighboring star system. It's far more likely that when Han says the Millennium Falcon can "make point five past light speed" that he's referring to something like speed in some unknown units within the hyperspace window.
ie. being in hyperspace at all means you're traveling faster than light, and his ship can go at 0.5 hyperspeed, which could mean 50% of some theoretical speed limit within the hyperspace window. That's the only thing that even remotely makes sense. It could even mean it gets up to 0.5 lightspeed in ordinary space, if the way the hyperspace window works is that it behaves like ordinary space, but drastically reduces the distance between points in space similar to the concept of a wormhole.
I think everyone should give up trying to explain the speed of Starwars hyperdrives in absolute terms. The closest system to Earth is Proxima Centuri and it would take the Falcon over two years to cover that distance, unless the stars in the Starwars universe are REALLY close together none of it makes any sense anyway.
The death star did have a hyperdrive although it was a bantha-slow class 4
It also had sublight engines. (You can't really see them though)
Well Rogue One answered that and to me that makes the Death Star 10 times scarier
Rubber Bander and Proud In terms of power, no, all other, yes.
No need to resort to Legends information. The Death Star made two jumps in A New Hope. It jumped from wherever it started to Alderaan, and from Alderaan to Yavin. These are all interstellar journeys, and perhaps even trans-Galactic.
Starkiller Base, on the other hand, devoured stars to charge the weapon. It was charged when we start the film, because it fired. It recharged later to fire again. This implies that the base jumped from the first star system, where it charged the first time, to the second star system, where it charged the second time.
I always wondered what Han meant by "She makes .5 past light speed." I didn't know if that meant 1.5x the speed of light, or 100.5% or what.
based on the fact that our galaxy is about 100,000 light years across, I would be very surprised that Hyperdrives are that slow. I mean I thought that the empire stretched out throughout the whole galaxy, but even if it were the size of the smallest galaxy we've found M60-UCD1 which has a diameter of 160 light years, it would still take 80 years for the millennium falcon to traverse.
Surely the fact that the Death Star travels a quarter of the speed of light means it would take years to get from system to system?
I believe a lot of the information that are in Star Wars facts books. Like locations, visual dictionary and vehicle cross-sections are considered canon information. So basically any and all superweapons in canon and legends have hyperdrives